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Rabbi Moshe Haber Path of the Just- Motives: Fueling Action and the Quest for Purity 8.10.25 · Rabbi Moshe Haber - Daily Mussar/Weekly Perasha

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  Which seems, it seems like a difficult, delicate point, but I
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  think it's a very important one. That is, he's talking about
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  Taurat Taurami's purity. And literally it means doing
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  things well-intentioned, doing things for the right reason.
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  And he talks about the fact that many people obviously do good
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  things, but a lot of times I do so for other reasons.
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  We have a constant which means you can do things for the wrong
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  reason originally. It'll hopefully lead eventually
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  doing it for the right one. That's the goal eventually.
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  But there are many mindsets out there that are done.
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  People do things or the wrong thing in mind, even good things.
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  That's his point. Even let's say Torah or can
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  maybe be Building Schools, community institutions has said
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  at times people doing other motives.
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  Is that a bad thing? No, it's not a bad thing if the
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  other motive is is, you know, some honor involved or something
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  else involved and maybe to bring somebody caught their life.
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  That's not a bad thing, but there are other motives and it's
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  a point to note that. So how he gives you a 1 That's I
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  think very relevant to I read you these words.
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  Well, the power mean at times I've been laying with Kevin
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  Mamashi, the ship who people may not be, you know, totally
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  motivated and they might say might be based on I need honor
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  but smartly ball. They feel a little better.
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  I'll chevre here, bend that take your tape.
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  People feel good when they get praised.
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  People feel you know, you think of children when people when
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  they're spoken about when they're given the big
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  tournament, it gives them fuel. You don't it's not even
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  children. Adults are exact same old over
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  there. You know, you feel good an exact
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  word and he's on the board. You feel a little better adults
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  the same way. So he's not going to disparage
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  on this concept, but he wants to pinpoint it and show it to us to
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  bring something out of it. I think it's a very important
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  point. It gives an example.
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  It was people also get shy from it maybe, but they always love
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  it. They still enjoy.
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  Everyone enjoys some sort of feeling of being, you know,
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  being being well known as a good kid or kids.
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  You feel great being noticed and recognized as a big deal.
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  All right, he is an example of a certain girl, the daughter of a
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  rabbi in the human rights. She's walking Shahita pasat
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  Pasiyat yafoot. She's walking with refined
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  steps. She's walking modestly.
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  And she overheard someone saying, wow, look how modest
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  that girl work walks. This guy writes come the Kevin
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  to shaman show memes, hear people saying come on out
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  Pasiyotel city bazo. How much are work Miyat Dick
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  Ticayo Tedder she was more careful with her walk because
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  she overheard people complimenting her.
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  The gamma brings this example or we can have millions of examples
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  to this point. We all know, like I said,
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  children, you can say adults when people get a compliment
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  when people are notice when people get a little credit, it
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  gives them a little bit of fuel because they would jump in this
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  step and makes them feel a little better about themselves.
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  And you want to point out, this is not saying their bad
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  intention tend to the rule, nor is it saying that they don't get
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  reward for what they did. I'm just pointing out the fact
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  that people are fueled, even good people for good things are
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  fueled by some degree of accolades.
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  So the question is, the question is, is anything wrong with the
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  system? The answer really is we all want
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  to be refined. But the reality is, if you think
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  about how the world will, I think about this all the time,
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  how the world goes around. It's funny, I was young, created
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  the world. So many things happen because of
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  other motives. Some of these happens because of
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  all the motives, because of all the reasons.
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  Other things. People build institutions
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  because they have children who need to go to a good school, so
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  they'll build up a school that's very impractical.
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  It's very common. Is that a motive?
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  That's a good motive overall, but a lot of it is they're
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  thinking about their own children, nothing about the
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  whole community at large, but still, they're doing it for a
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  reason that works out. I shouldn't give them a reason.
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  They push at it. That's a motive.
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  That's a push. People feel good when they get
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  credit. They do more of it.
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  I gave you the example last week.
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  I always remember this. When boys learn benefit money,
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  they learn off times, they learn in public places and they're
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  noticed and people always make a big deal about these kids.
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  They're learning when they don't have to learn and everyone's,
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  you know, and people see them. I'll tell you from being one of
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  those boys myself for years that gave you fuel.
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  It gave you fuel. You would not be able to learn
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  that same way for learning in a basement somewhere alone.
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  You feel good when people notice you.
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  That's just the way it is. And people talk about it a
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  little bit and you hear the chirping and you're not ignoring
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  it and it makes you feel good. Hashem made the world go around.
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  Hashem has a way of pushing the world forward, and this is one
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  of His ways. And to me it's an interesting
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  concept. So what do we take out of this?
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  Is it wrong to give people credit?
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  No. Is it wrong to encourage
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  children all the time? No.
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  But the reality is we all look for a world of ourselves when we
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  can do something without accolades at all.
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  A part of our life has to be credit free.
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  In my opinion. There's a small part that you
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  can develop the shaloh do do the channel so you can develop
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  yourself. That I'm doing this totally for
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  the right reason. Not everyone has some other
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  motive about, but you want to have a part of you as doing
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  something without getting any credit.
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  A lot of times people get very upset.
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  Well, they don't get proper credit for things, they feel
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  bad. You can hear a shul talking
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  about one guide ride did all the work.
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  That makes you feel bad. There's no other way around that
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  you feel bad and and good people feel very bad when they don't
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  get credit for things. But it's important to note if
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  you have a part of your life that doesn't get credit, that's
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  building a channel of the Shma and that actually makes you a
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  better person. This is the mindset the Messiah
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  should be telling you that you should have in your a little bit
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  that if I'm doing things and not thinking about what others have
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  to say, not only conscious of getting credit, that's this
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  point. You get reward for the for
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  everything anyway. But this is a part of you.
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  And do we understand and absorb this concept of doing things
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  without getting credit? Or do we feel everything has to
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  have credit, our results, everything has to have credits?
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  Or is it OK if something's OK with things not getting any
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  credit at all? I think it's OK without giving
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  any credit to all but human nature is you want some sort of
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  recognition right as human nature.
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  It's very difficult to have zero.
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  Even more people say they have 0.
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  Right. I think I sham orchestrated, I
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  sham as a world. This level getting to a point
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  being OK, we're not getting any sort of accolades at all is a
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  high level. That's our ultimate goal.
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  Our ultimate goal is you do things for the right reasons and
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  that's it. But God has a picture of the
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  world and he wants the world to be built and the world to move
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  forward. And therefore, until you get to
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  this point, Hashem has a lot of ways of pulling us forward and
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  pushing us forward to eventually get to that.
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  I said to kids, because kids are much busier in a certain sense
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  and more much more obvious about their need to feel good.
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  Adults also need to feel good. But after, you know, a little
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  experience feeling good, not only what others have to say,
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  feeling good also means feeling good.
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  For what I did for children, it's pretty much very much
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  feeling good because others have to say.
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  I'll give you an example last week.
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  What's the thing you did? If you do, you're doing it
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  privately or publicly for your kids.
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  Right. Do it publicly, right?
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  Last week I took my kids out to readers.
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  OK, the ISIS. Others are talking my daughter
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  who's thank God. I don't want to call it goody
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  goody. I grew up being called a goody
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  goody. I don't love the term.
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  I remember. I was I still remember.
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  It's like, yes, they don't know why my parents came home from
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  PTAFL and never went to parent. Teacher was in Lakewood.
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  He only ever went came at one time.
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  I think this one time he went and they came back with the
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  report and I'll tell you now it was out of this world.
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  It's one of those, you know, all the best, best, best.
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  I was one of those type of kids. I remember hearing this.
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  What do you think in kids reaction when he hears this
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  Great, great, right. Feels great.
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  Actually. I think I feel proud.
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  I remember I started to cry, pulling crying.
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  Why? Because I started to associate
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  this goody, goody term with being a nerd.
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  OK, That was my association, as I'd say that all things were
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  good in class and they're making fun of me, you know, all this
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  stuff. All the kid wants is to feel
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  good. So my daughter, a couple days
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  ago, she says that I don't know where this came up.
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  That's not fair. So it's not fair.
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  She's really a good student, thank God.
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  So it's not fair, she says. All people say is the old days
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  are better. Oh, the good old days, the good
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  old days, they make it like the old days are better.
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  She says, now what am I supposed to do about it?
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  I don't live in the old days. How is this fair?
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  How is I couldn't believe she's being so honest.
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  She's like, how is it OK, the old days are better?
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  I said, well, I'll tell you something.
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  Let me tell you a little secret that you should know.
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  I grew up with the same problem as a secret.
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  It's pretty much not true. Trust you when I tell you it's
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  not as true as they make it. The old days are better for
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  certain things, but a lot of ways these days are better.
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  So don't believe that. And secondly, it doesn't matter
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  to you because there's nothing you can do about it.
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  You live in your world, you live in this world, and in this world
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  your days are better. And you can become physicist.
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  How could I become great? This just doesn't.
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  How can I become great if I don't live in the old days,
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  right? What's your response to that
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  question? So my response was you could
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  become great in the world that you live in.
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  And don't believe when they tell you that it's just a way for
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  other people to feel good about the lives that they lived
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  because ultimately all people are trying to do, both my
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  daughter and those who say that comment, all they want to do is
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  feel good about themselves. That's what people want all day
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  long. That's how it works.
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  And the truth is the Messiah, Shaheen, when he's telling you
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  that people do things with credit, he's not taking you away
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  from the fact that we all need to feel good.
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  And Hashem structured the world that way in order to push the
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  world forward. That's how it works.
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  So what am I saying? Am I saying you should be
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  totally the SHMA, totally pure minded, or should you be OK with
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  getting being busy with our colleague?
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  The answer is recognize the reality, which is we all need to
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  feel good. That's a reality.
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  But also try to do things well-intentioned.
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  That's the combination. Understand that we all need to
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  feel good in life. Every single one of us needs to
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  feel good. And I shall structure the world
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  that way in a way to make the world go forward.
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  Everything was built on people. Many of the things we have in
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  our community are built on people who want to do the right
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  thing but also want to feel good about themselves.
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  Personally, when I decided to come here, that was the
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  combination. I wanted to do the right thing.
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  I thought there was a potential over here and everything.
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  At the same time, I didn't feel perfectly good about my original
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  situation. It wasn't really working out the
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  way I wanted. So that's the combination.
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  And many people and many jobs and much torta and much
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  building, That is the combination people use.
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  You want to have, well, intention, but you also want to
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  feel good at what you do. And we have to raise our
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  children with the exact same combo, which is I'm giving them
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  the credits. I'm making them feel good, but
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  I'm also helping them along in doing the right thing in life.
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  I don't want them to be totally. You know, we have nowadays the
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  what's to call the participation trophy, right?
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  Kitty gets a trophy just showing up.
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  You know what? This.
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  Yeah. That's not good.
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  Nowadays, nowadays a kid on a baseball team, probably every
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  kid gets a trophy, every kid probably gets some sort of best
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  of at the end of the summer in camp and all these different
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  things. Like that's how the world works,
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  right? But this patient drove.
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  Is that good? No, that's taking the oculine
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  idea too far because all you're basically giving kids only one
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  fuel. And that one fuel is you need to
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  feel good every second of every day.
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  That's not healthy at all. But there is a part of that
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  that's reality, and a part of reality is it does push people
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  forward when they feel good about themselves.
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  There's no other way. When you feel good when you go
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  to class and you walk away and you know that the other eight
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  guys know you went to class, it makes you come the next day.
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  That's just the way it is. When you when a rabbit gives a
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  speech and he knows he's supposed to be giving a speech
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  for this, a call, giving a lesson, that's it.
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  He should be delivering a lesson and walk away.
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  But he knows that when people give him a nice khazakabaru, it
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  makes his day, makes his day. He's a rabbi delivering Torah.
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  Why should he care about the so he gives a better job next time?
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  No, because people are fueled by getting by getting credit.
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  People have fueled by feeling good about themselves.
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  It's how I sham structured the world.
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  It's the way the world goes round.
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  And that has to be our world as well.
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  At the same time, we have to have a part of ourselves that is
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  pretty pure and a part of our goal is I'm doing these are the
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  right reason and nothing else. This is the combination we need
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  to have. And same with our wives, same
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  with our children, same with our rabbis, same with everybody.
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  They have to have this combination.
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  And that is, I'm well-intentioned, but I feel
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  good. If you think of any of those
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  things, it's not going to work out.
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  No one will push forward without feeling good about themselves.
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  They just won't. No one will do anything positive
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  in this world without getting some credit.
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  It's nice to have a nameless board.
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  It's nice to never give anyone credit in institutions.
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  It's nice. No credit, no Garva, no honor.
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  It's beautiful. You know what you end up having?
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  No one does it the next time, and no one pushes forward.
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  How many shoes will be built? If there was no name on the
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  building. Right.
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  Sure. Now often times they put the
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  name also for the sake of the memory and legacy, but it's
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  absolutely true. How many things will be done in
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  the community, how many visitations will be built if you
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  didn't get the credit? And it's a combination that has
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  to be healthy. Again, you can't be too credit
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  based and you know, because it's just not going to, you know,
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  it's going to become Gava and arrogance and all their own
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  things. That's when fights come out.
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  How do fights happen? Because people are so busy with
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  their own ego. Somehow we missed the mark.
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  I became busy with ego in these institutions.
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  At the same time you have. So you can't be totally credit
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  based, but I think that you cannot be and try to build a
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  world of foolish ma because you will never get anything done.
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  It's a reality of the way the world goes around.
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  You will never get anything done if you expect everybody to be
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  totally schma, which doesn't work.
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  I gave you my own combination, right?
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  First I said let's see when I first get involved with this
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  rabbi stuff, right as I call this rabbi stuff.
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  Exactly. So I was in Coleo, which I still
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  have and for the first three years, 2 years, I never told
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  anyone. I have talked to anyone in the
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  Coleo that have anything to do with the rabbi at all.
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  Zero. Why?
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  My goal was I don't want it's a made-up goal.
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  I made this up. I didn't want either side the
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  shul to be busy with the kolepa or the kolel to be busy with the
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  Rabbi paw Why? Because when I do both and
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  people always make this comment, if you ask anybody, if you go to
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  any rabbi and they tell him, you know, what do you do with rabbi
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  and you tell him you also call, they would say, wow, how can you
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  do both, right? So right when you get to wow,
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  you can do both. Now you're getting extra fuel
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  and everyone's very impressed. And every time he's stepping
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  into a little on time, wow, how do you make it?
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  And every time he's doing a DC Javas rabbi, wow, how could he
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  do both? And it gives you a certain sense
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  of pride. And I felt at the time an
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  unhealthy sense of credit and pride.
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  And people are so impressed by this made-up thing.
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  This is my issue. So I decided for a few years to
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  avoid telling either side what I do.
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  The shoes not busy with the Colell part and the Colell
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  doesn't know about the rat. That was my own makeup thing.
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  And no one told me this. That's my own thing until my
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  father got sick, whatever it was where I got more involved and
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  then the times in work out. So I would come to Colell late
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  every day, which is just to make up of my schedule.
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  So now either you're now a bozo in Colell because you come in
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  late every day to Colell or you explain to them that you're also
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  a rabbi. So now they're impressed.
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  That's why I changed it. But their mindset was that was
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  the mind. The mind was, I don't want to
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  have this world where wow every time it's a wow, wow, wow.
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  Every time you get a wow to overdo the wow, then you start
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  to build a world of credit. That's very important.
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  To be careful not to be too busy with the Shalala smart part of
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  your life, not to be too busy with accolades.
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  We want to do good things. We want to have the fuel.
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  We have to be both honest but well-intentioned.
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  Honest means I need to realize I will never do much if I don't
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  feel good about it. That's just the way the world
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  works. Doesn't be great enough if I
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  don't feel good about things. Will I do anything if no one
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  gives me a compliment, no one gives me a thank you?
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  Will I feel what I do? Of course I want to.
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  All right? If I got up and gave a speech, I
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  never got a khazakabaroo. I'm telling you honestly, I
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  would have. It would be impossible to repair
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  a speech. Impossible.
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  You stop giving him. Stop giving him you're a rabbi,
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  you're delivering to a your job is not the hezuk of others to
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  you, your job is to give them a hezuk.
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  What's going on over here The answer is that is the reality of
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  how the world works. Without being given fuel, you
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  will never push forward in any way learning, teaching.
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  That's for me. I have all of you the same thing
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  if you not feel good about helping another person right
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  There are people who got involved in they were very
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  well-intentioned and green mindset.
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  They wanted to help families and then after a while they couldn't
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  they're going to handle anymore. Why couldn't they handle it?
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  They go to help a family for a week, 2 weeks, a month, and
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  that's longer than that. At the end of it all, there's no
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  thank you, there's no appreciation, there's nothing
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  there's nothing you can't function that way.
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  You need to feel good. You need to be fueled forward in
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  every single way. You need to shalo the smile in
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  your life, the desert little that bring you to feel good by
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  helping us alone. We wish it did.
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  Some people yes trust the fact. I guess it depends on the some
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  people they could have on their repertoire at the end of their
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  life. I helped this one help that one
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  the other one and no one knew great.
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  That is a totally smart person, even though he feels good
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  inside. Nothing wrong with that feeling
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  good for sure. That's a beautiful person and
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  that's our goal, all of us. Would you like it was a whole
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  generation of it There was, but there's always some degree of
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  person. Who usually when someone does
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  something like that, when they're doing it like anonymous
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  and they're doing weeds a good older what I had said.
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  So there's always something that they're doing that's in the
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  likes. Yeah, they need some lights.
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  You do. You need it.
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  You need to feel good. And if you fool yourself, I know
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  people I told you who do anonymous.
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  And I happen to think because they do so much anonymous, there
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  are risk of not giving enough silica.
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  They give a lot. But when you always do
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  anonymous, you're at risk because first of all, the kids
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  are now fine. That's status.
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  Second of all, there may come a time, but you just don't feel
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  like doing it and nothing's pushing you.
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  There are people today who have to keep up with their own level
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  and therefore they give. So there's element of, of not
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  what you call it, Shaloda shma per SE, but there's elements of
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  fuel that push you forward. You need that fuel.
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  Hashem structured the world. The God wants to get the world
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  accomplished. How is he going to get it
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  accomplished? Might be credit.
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  I'll give you another example. It's not credit related.
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  This is Money related. I once, I don't know why I
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  watched this. I once watched the documentary
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  about how much money pulls the word forward.
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  OK, if you think about it, you watch it, it's almost
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  frustrating. It's wild.
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  Think about it for a second. Think about the world wars, how
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  much of them, how many of them are related to money, right.
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  Wars, lives, families, money. That's big country.
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  Talk, talk, think about the community, think about who
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  people marry. Think about how families look.
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  Think about so many different things.
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  And money, money is the fuel of all this, right?
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  So I want it's well, it's I know it's well, it's I want it's
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  documentary. It's almost frustrating.
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  Then I might thought to myself, how about how about honest
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  question, I know Torah supports institutions, I got them, but
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  even more than that, how much is Torah shape money shaped the
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  Torah world. This is a wild but what you say
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  how much money, how much does dollar bills and money shaped
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  the Torah world? So This is why it's a lot,
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  right? I'm back to this in the 1930s, a
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  few, this is just a shaped Eschenas world of America today.
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  A few European rabbis came to America.
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  The institutions were dying. It was right before World War 2.
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  The institutions were dying. They couldn't afford it and they
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  were done. And they decided to move to, to
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  come and visit America for a year or more than a year to
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  raise money. They came to America and that
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  these were great rabbis and big Roshi shivas in a science style.
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  And for the first time in people's lives, people started
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  to see what a Roshi Shiva looks like, because it didn't exist so
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  much in that America in the 1930s at all.
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  And there's other Zee. Old Israeli rabbis who come
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  here, like Rabbi Wagnin and all that he used to come from
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  Israel. OK, so but that's kind of Azim.
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  No, that's kind of Azim. These rabbis specifically at the
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  first time, they had to see, they got to see the old country,
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  so to speak, and people saw this.
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  They were oppressed. There were big receptions.
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  These rabbis are coming. They're not coming to give Khazu
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  to America. That was not the goal.
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  Their goal was to raise money. That's it.
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  I'm sure they had in mind also to help the country, but they
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  really did go with raise money. But in the process, because they
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  came, many mothers and fathers started to see these great
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  rabbits and started to be OK with their sons having any
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  association with the yeshiva. They sent back to Europe.
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  There was 11 boys. There was 11 boys from America
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  went back to learning Europe, which is literally going back to
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  the good old going backward in time.
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  You're going from a civilized world to a somewhat, you know,
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  not so civilized or not. So it's almost our world at that
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  time. They went back, these boys, they
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  only lent there for a few years. They came back to America and
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  those boys literally 1 by 1 built up the biggest yeshiva
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  institutions in the world. They built up 1 by 1 by these
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  boys mere other places all built by these boys.
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  So I think to myself all the time, if not for that rabbi
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  needing money, if not for the dollar bill right with those
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  boys with the the the look and the landscape of the America to
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  our world as she has at least look the way it looks, no, So
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  dollar bill literally moves the world forward.
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  It's the same idea as credit has shown as a way of moving the
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  world forward. Now does that mean that it
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  bothers us? It shouldn't bother us.
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  We should understand and accept the truth.
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  The truth is money makes the world go round and credit makes
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  the world go round. We can be OK with that.
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  We have to accept it. It's probably how the world
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  works. At the same time, at the same
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  time, we should also realize that we have to do things
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  outside of that, which means we have to recognize the world
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  without money, recognize people that way, recognize the world
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  that way. We have to also recognize
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  ourselves and do things without credit.
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  So Hashema has two ways. He makes the world go round, but
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  he also has a first realization. You want to have a part.
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  That's totally the smile as well.
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  This is the mindset. It's how I think all the time.
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  There's an idea. So we'll start with this.