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Issue 343: Imperial Broadcast System · Aggressive Negotiations: A Star Wars Podcast

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We must be cautious. Welcome to the Nerd Party. Hi. This is
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Nick and Ostasu, story editor on Star Wars, The Clone Wars and Star
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Wars bad Batch. And you are listening to aggressive negotiation from the far reaches
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I am one of your mysterious hosts from the nether Beyond region Secret Places,
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Jedi Master John Mills. And joining me in this weird place that nobody
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Rushing. Matt did you forget to pay the electric bill again? Because why
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is everything dark? Why can't we at least have a nightlight or something?
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I don't understand. I thought I was going to ask you why you turned
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on all these strobe lights. I'm getting a little bit sick personally. I'm
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big on atmosphere and vibe. My friend, it's very important that that's what
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we'll mention them again some other place inevitably. So, Matt, we find
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ourselves again at a crossroads of a weird topic. I want to throw at
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you. It's not really weird. It's more of a curiosity thing because I
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know this hasn't really been established and I want to sort of like reason it
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out in my brain, one of the things I've always struggled with. And
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here we are. You know, by the time this drops, this should
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drop pretty much. I think. On the day that The Rise of Skywalker
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was released, so it'll be like the anniversary that it was. Just it
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was December nineteenth, right, wasn't that when it came out or something like
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that close to it? Sure, yeah somewhere Okay, I was just gonna
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say that we're gonna say this dropped on the same day. Guess what if
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you're listening to it on that day, Maybe it did, maybe it didn't,
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who knows anyway, So you know, the dead speak mysterious transmission,
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and we know that in our world there was a piece of this transmission heard
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in Fortnite Star Wars, okay, and it was mentioned in the novelization,
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but there's no real discussion about the mode of the broadcast, like how many
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devices did it appear on? Was it? Was it a broadcast? It
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took over a whole region? Did where people flying in their ships and all
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of a sudden there was a broadcast through their thing? Did sound you know
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since sound travels in Star Wars space? Was it just really loud? Did
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they just have some loud speakers floating around in the unknown regions? So I
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kind of want to come at that though, because what do you imagine would
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be the delivery mechanism that would make it possible for that broadcast to be heard
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anywhere outside of well, I mean honestly, Exegle or anybody that was like
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tuned into the right frequency. Yeah, I'm I'm gonna say it's short Force
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radio. Uh. And so it's a it's a special form of radio there
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for Force users and other people can also hear the transmissions and they still exist.
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Of course, we're used during the New the Old Republic era when you
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know, Jedi were at their height, and that's how they would contact one
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another or talk to one another. Of course, do their you know,
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famous radio programs with continue. Next week is July Master Equan Jay finds out
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who murdered the Prince. I like it. I like where you're going with
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this, baby, we got us do going. I like this. I
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like this, but I don't know why I'm fixating on it and why it
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just suddenly came out of nowhere because I'm sitting here. This may surprise you.
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We're recording this for a podcast and for people to hear this podcast.
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Technically it's a broadcast, but you have to make the conscious decision to seek
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it out and get it. And that's the world we live in now where
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we're not driving around with radios where like, but even when people were driving
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around with the radio, the idea of every broadcast channel being taken over,
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you go back to broadcast TV days, the station had to set up the
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you know, they could take it over the same time, but it was
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all on a certain frequency and that sort of Yeah, and obviously with a
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large galaxy, I'm just trying to to think, like, is it's something
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where there would be like a mesh network or something. So there's two different
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ideas. One they stole the technology from the Krytonians who did this in a
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Man of Steel where it took over all the screens, right even phones.
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Okay, so there's that. Or the second idea is that there was the
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emergency Empire system that was built into every single radio ship, anything that would
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allow a transmission to take over, just like the emergency Broadcast system takes over
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your television every week to just test. So I like where you are with
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that where there was like some sort of leftover emergency broadcast system that of course
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Cititius knew about that he exploits. Would it turn on a device like it
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would have to be something that would be standardized put into like every device capable
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of picking up a broadcast then, right, wouldn't it have to be?
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And so if he's on Exegle, was it Admiral Pride or was it General
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Pride? Was he a general or whatever Pride? Richard E. Grant's character
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did like somebody in the First Order have to flip the switch for the broadcast
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to go out? Or did the broadcast show up? Because we know that
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Operation Cinder, which has been acknowledged on screen, so we know it's like
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real, real there were those robots that went out and gave a you know
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command. Would it all like with this broadcast system? With how disparate the
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galaxy is? Do you think it's possible that like an Operation Cinder like bot
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shows up to the First Order and is like, okay, yeahn't this robot
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hasn't activated in a while, but send out this broadcast? Yeah? So
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well, I think another possibility along with this, so you know, in
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Imperial Broadcast system also comes down to the fact that you know, you knew
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that Palpatine had hideouts all over the galaxy. We know you know that of
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course from what we saw in the Aftermath books, right, they played a
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big part in that. You know, he had all these these places where
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they're gathering force relics and all this type of stuff, and so with those
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hidden all over the galaxy, you know, you could easily see how a
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signal could be triggered that would broadcast this to all of the places that you
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wanted via the Imperial broadcast system. And so I think that could work.
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That would that would be a very practical solution to it. I just like
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the fact that you're calling it the Imperial broadcast system because that's also IBS and
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you know, irritable ballo syndrome Imperial broadcast system, Like, there seems to
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be a nice symbolism there that lines up. I mean, it does cause
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irritable bowel syndrome when you hear this message, so it makes sense. So
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basically, though, we know that Pride at least was receiving messages from Sidious,
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So Pride probably had a network of people that he could activate, because
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it seems that Pride was a Sidious loyalist nested within the first Order, so
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he would have had a network of people that would have, you know,
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triggered this. But if I recall correctly, the Emperor's broadcast also is what
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sent kylo Ren in search of the wayfinder? Correct? Was that the reason
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he was looking for it? I believe so? Yes, So if Reren
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here's the broadcast, then it wasn't anybody like Reren. Wasn't the one that
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activated the signal, which has its own you know, sort of layering of
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questions. But wouldn't the Republic have moved to I mean, I guess it
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would make sense that the Republic would not have taken out any sort of emergency
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broadcast system. I mean, it's already established on screen that they're like inept
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during the Mandalorian timeframe, which I mean, heck, we even saw a
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little bit when Harah goes after you know Ahsoka, you know, on that
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mission, and you know you already see the ineptitude of you know, certain
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senators who you know want to basically pull in completely and take care of their
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own and pretend like no threats in the galaxy exists anymore. But if this
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system still existed, and we know that the Resistance is trying to get in
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contact with everybody, Lea would have known about this thing's existence. Would wouldn't
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she have used that to try to make contact with everybody? If it were
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that desperate. See that makes me wonder, like, you know, was
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the this is something like the Order sixty six conspiracy, that it's so hidden
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that this isn't something that anybody actually knows exists. It's just something that you
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know, Palpatine has worked in to every ship system, you know, every
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transmission system, everything, without anybody knowing it. In the same way he
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had worked into the clones this trigger to allow him to add I'm almost notice
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trigger them all to you know, flip the switch and murder Jedi. And
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so I see how this idea that Palpatine could speak from beyond at least that's
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what everybody thinks, you know. Somehow Palpatine returned. So his message comes
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forth and it's it's it's a reminder I think of, you know, one
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of the deeper things I'm thinking in this is strange that I'm even thinking deep
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on this, but it really goes to show this idea of how careful you
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have to be of building on something that was evil, like the idea of
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oh oh, we can still use those people, you know, like especially
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I'm thinking of you know what happens in Ahsoka, right, you know,
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we have these people who are working behind the scenes for the enemy because everybody's
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like, well, we just can't get rid of everybody that was a part
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of the empire and not really vetting anyone. And I think this just creates
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a serious problem, you know, and especially you know, we know how
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devious Palpatine was in the first place, how much he worked to control every
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single little thing and think of every nuance that could happen, so he was
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ready for it at a moment's notice, And so you know the thought process
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that's something like this could exist so that Palpatine could basically have his people flip
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the switch and he could broadcast in the entire galaxy. Hey I'm back,
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you know, like Randy Quaid in Independence Day. You know, yeah,
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I just I see this as being like completely plausible for that person. Okay.
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See, the thing is two of the things that you said have triggered
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my constant desire to like make you know, like a little comedy bit out
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of something. Where number one, you know, like the I'm back thing,
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It's like, was there a holographic component to this where it like wasn't
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just audio, So like somebody has a holographic thing on their thing, and
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like all of a sudden, the little Emperor pops up was like boo,
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haha, I'm back, and they like disappear. So it was like,
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what just happened? Right? But additionally, given the fact that we know
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that there are a thousand thousand worlds and therefore one thousand thousand species out there,
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was he subtitled or was he auto translated when it goes out there?
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I know that this is a question that could apply to just about anything that
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happens in Star Wars. But was it just him speaking what we acknowledge is
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basic, which you know we hear his English, or was there like an
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option to hit a number and be like, you know, to hear this
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message again in Moncala press two and you know that sort of thing for people
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who are out there. Or do you think Palpatine just went for broke and
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was just like, ah, if you can't hear, you understand what I'm
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saying. So like, because think about thirty years later, all of a
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sudden, you hear this broadcast. It's a voice you've never heard before,
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and somebody just be like, who's that? What happened? You know,
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like his voice wouldn't mean anything to somebody who hadn't been alive during the time
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period, right, well, yeah, I mean what would happen is it
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would you know, your messaging system would say incoming message from Emperor Palpatine.
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To hear this message in Moncala, Press one, to hear this message in
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Tweelek, press two, to hear this message in Ewoka three, to hear
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this message in Kashik. Press four, you know, a wookie press four.
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You know. It's like it would be a really long list, and
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if you missed it, it's like to repeat this list press twelve, you
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know. And it's like Palpatine is like sitting there holding a piece of paper
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like for each one and the like by like the thousand, He's like,
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eh, you know, no, see now I've got like the robot Chicken
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Emperor in my head where he's like, you know, it's like okay,
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and we need that now in Rhodian. Can't somebody else read it? Can't
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just somebody else read it? You know, obviously we're we're having a little
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bit of fun with it. But the thing is, it's like it is
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something where I would always want to square it because this transmission now I say
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it flippantly a minute ago, but it's thirty years after the war has ended.
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Palpatine's voice hasn't been heard since he died. So somebody who's twenty who
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hears this thing where it's like, at last the Sith are back, We're
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going to take our revenge, they would be like, what the hell is
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that? Right? Like and just yeah, why would they pay the attention
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to it? So I'm expecting that it sounds kind of like what you get
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in The Princess Bride, where he's like, this is Emperor Palpatin, Sorry
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about that. It's been a while since I've talked. This is Emperor Palpatine.
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Yeah you, yes, exactly listen to this message. So so okay,
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So I mean there's that aspect to it, but I think it would
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actually be here's free story idea for you, Disney. Not that they listen
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to me anymore, whatever, whatever, but wouldn't it be a sincerely interesting
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story to follow, whether in book form or comic book form or something.
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There would be people who would be quote unquote conspiracy theorists post endor who would
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say, nah, that was false flag. The Emperor never died, he
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just went into hiding, And wouldn't it be interesting to have a story like
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that where one of these people feels incredibly justified and like I've been telling you,
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I said, so you ended Thanksgiving or you ended Life Day dinner early
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because you did you were sick of hearing me go on about it five years
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ago, but I told you he's still alive. Like, wouldn't that be
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a really interesting sort of story to like you have somebody feel vindicated by the
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fact that the Emperor's voice comes back where they're like, I told you,
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I told you wasn't really dead, and I've been saying it for years exactly
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exact. But that is an interesting type of story because the thing is then
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you you wind up having you know, Star Wars Love's, you know,
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telling these sorts of relatable stories where like, you know, sometimes the conspiracy
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theory isn't the wacky thing, it's more of a spoiler alert. Wouldn't that
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be interesting? I think so, you know, obviously we've been to tucking
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mostly humorously about this whole idea, and you know, I think it's it's
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so fascinating because as we're recording this, you know, we just had an
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interview with Adam Driver come out where he was talking about you know, how
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the direction for his character changed based off of where originally they were going to
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go with with his character, which is that he was not going to have
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a redemption arc. In fact, he was going to basically be the antithesis
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to to darth Ader. And then you know too that there were actually thoughts
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of having Ray be connected to Obi Wan Kenobi at one point and before they
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finally decided on in the end, you know, her being a Palpatine.
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And so I think it just goes to show that, you know, there
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was a thought process for this whole thing, and just how messed up everything
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got because of the change and director and because you know, they didn't take
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their time and really allow somebody to come up with a story that canvassed three
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movies, and then they you know, worked on the details in the same
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way George did. Right, Like, George didn't know every single detail,
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but he did know how it started and how it ended. You know,
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he knew the and you could massage the details from there and still get to
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where he wanted to go. It's just it's too bad that that didn't happen,
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because you know, the sequel trilogy itself is not full of a ton
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of terrible ideas, it's just not well executed, and I think you know,
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that's just the place that we kind of end up with it. But
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you know, with this like it's a funny story point in the sense of
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the way we've been discussing it, but it's also something to which you know,
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when you hear that that can happen what we've seen in the Star Wars
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galaxy, you already automatically buy it because you've already seen stuff like this.
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I think immediately any Star Wars fan's brain goes to Order sixty six, right.
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The fact that you can have an order that goes out to all the
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clones relatively quickly to have them turn so the idea that the Emperor has this
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setup so that he could have a broadcast go out to whoever he wanted,
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whenever he wanted. This just seems completely within the sheave wheelhouse, you know,
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to want to have up his sleeve or you know, in his cloning
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tank. It does, man, And it's the thing is, this is
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the space where I've never been bashful about saying I don't like that they brought
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back Palpatine. I don't think it was the right move by a country mile.
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I really think it was a grossly miscalculated error. But the fact that
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we can still operate within the space and throw some of these ideas out and
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try to ameliorate it a bit is why I think some of them hero that's
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coming out will be successful in making the sequel trilogy experience feel a little bit
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more organically tied to everything right right, And that's you know, we've talked
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about it before how Star Wars telling stories nonsequentially from the get go makes it
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possible for us to go back and say, oh, okay, well here's
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an additional part of the story. We go, okay, all right,
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all right, now I'll buy you know, X, Y and Z.
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But it's just yeah, man, I think I think where I really fixate
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is on the conspiracy theory. People that could have a really interesting story told
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about them. I want to go down to the book publisher and be like,
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look, I got a book idea. Well, you know that's paid
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a lot of money, just enough that I could just like take two months
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off of work. I'll do my best. What's interesting about this whole thing,
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though, is is you and I have both read you know, Shadows
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of the Sith, right and in a lot of ways. That's kind of
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what that book is trying to do. It's trying to find a way to
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bring together a lot of the questions that were raised by the sequel trilogy that
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weren't answered and kind of pull pieces together, you know. And so I
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think that that's interesting that that was a book that happened, because you know,
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once it ended, there were still so many questions that people had,
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and it makes me wonder, you know obviously too. And I think we've
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talked about this before, but I think most fans have thought about this idea
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of you know, you have the Mandalorian series in Ahsoka and all these things
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happening in that time period, and they are building into you know, where
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we're going. We've already seen connections in that, right, We've seen a
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lot of connections, you know, these little threads of things that lead us
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into the sequel trilogy, and so, you know, it's just it's one
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of those things where I'm I'm continually interested to see the ways in which they
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will maybe find and have a possibility of these things making more sense in the
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end. But I don't know who knows, but it is fun to be
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able to have these kind of conversations. I do think, you know,
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as we've done, we've talked about the Holiday special and all sorts of crazy
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things that have happened in Star Wars over the years, and you know,
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not everything's a surefire winner, even in my beloved Clone Wars. You know,
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there are still some episodes that I'm not huge fans of, but we
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find ways to enjoy it all, or at least be able to think about
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it. And so, yeah, to be able to have a discussion about,
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you know, how Palpatine was able to contact the entire galaxy at the
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beginning of the Rise of Skywalker. I mean, that's a legit question,
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it is. And before we start going down another road where I'm like,
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well, you know, if somebody had an answering system, was it just
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like a message left on their machine. You're in the shower and you come
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out and it's like, oh, there's a message from people, one message
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waiting for you. Yes, this is Emperor Palpatine. Lou, you played
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a prank on me? Again, what's going on? But if people want
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to reach out to you, Matt and broadcast you there imminent evil plans so
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that everybody can get ready for them, and try to thwart you yet again.
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Where can they find you online? Well, you caught me monologuing.
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Well, you could find me all over social media under the name mattterssing zero
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two. Of course, here on the network, outside of aggressive negotiations,
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you'll find owl posts where I talk with drag Kauffman about every single chapter the
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Harry Potter series, one chapter time. You can also find me on the
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TFM network with a bunch of shows. The six oh two Club is the
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main place there where just enjoying all of the fantoms we love. John's a
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frequent guest. You can also find me there doing literary trecks, the orb
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Warp, five Saddle Up, and the Artificial Tango. But John, you
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know, maybe people want to do a side by side comparison of your voice
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and Emperor Palpatines. Where would they find you, Well, they would find
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me on exit go. I mean you would find me online. It's Kessel
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Junkie, isn't it com x Now ooh that's a ooh oh my gosh,
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just saying. Okay, so the first thing is the yes, a social
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media app in the Star Wars Galaxy gets updated. Oh okay, yeah,
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we got some ideas here anyway, find me is Kessel Junkie out there,
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and you can find me here on the Network hosting another show called house Lights
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with Tristan Raddell and Darren Mosa, where we look at the director the works
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of directors, because films are fun to talk about. But something else that's
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fun is going and removing all of the secret broadcasting stuff from all the equipment
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in my house and from the Jedi temple, which is going to take some
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time. So Master Rushing, I think it's time to close these negotiations.
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John, negotiations are closed. Join the Revolution, Join the Nerd Party.