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#454 - Miles Minnick · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: It was good. Everybody, some boy, Miles Minic, it takes
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  Speaker 1: me out. On the Bootleg Cab Podcast, Let's get it.
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  Speaker 2: All right man. Bootleg Cab Podcast Special guests in here
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  Speaker 2: Miles Minic, Welcome, welcome.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's good to be here, man, Let's get to it.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. So, for people who are not familiar with who
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  Speaker 2: you are, you're from the Bay Area, Yes, sir. And
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  Speaker 2: would you consider yourself a quote unquote Christian rapper?
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people would. Yeah. I do music about
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  Speaker 1: my life and I live my life for the Lord.
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  Speaker 2: So how long have you making music?
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  Speaker 1: Making music all together? Maybe like ten years? Doing it
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  Speaker 1: professionally like five and.
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  Speaker 2: The whole time is your like message in the same No.
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  Speaker 1: No, for surely not.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: I grew up in a Bay like doing like you know,
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  Speaker 1: the mob music, the gangster rap, like rolling with like
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  Speaker 1: DV to General, DSB, click like all of them, with
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  Speaker 1: that like get active movement like twenty ten, so.
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  Speaker 2: You were like your content was much more aggressive.
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  Speaker 1: Oh for surely yeah. Yeah yeah, but like around twenty eleven,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I found I found
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  Speaker 1: the Lord and eventually like surrounding my music over it
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  Speaker 1: to them you know what I'm saying, And.
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  Speaker 2: Did you notice, like, well that was a long time ago. Fuck,
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  Speaker 2: that's I'm sorry. I'm gonna cuss a lot. You please
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  Speaker 2: excuse me, because I can't control it around anyone's children either.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes my friends bring the kids around. I'll just be
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  Speaker 2: talking and they'd be like yo, and I'm like, hey, man,
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  Speaker 2: don't bring your fucking kid around me. Then respectfully, anyway,
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  Speaker 2: with that being said, I mean you're like, it's a
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  Speaker 2: long twenty ten and now it's fourteen years. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 2: know it didn't happen overnight for you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, definitely not. And it's like when I became a Christian,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know if doing music was like acceptable the
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  Speaker 1: way I was doing it, Like I was in the
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  Speaker 1: streets doing aggressive music, and when I thought about doing
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  Speaker 1: that for God, I didn't think that that was acceptable.
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  Speaker 1: And so it took me a minute to get back
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  Speaker 1: into it.
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  Speaker 2: So you like took a break from so yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: then you like kind of were like, all right, now
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna kind of make my music about positivity and yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And that was like when I started really tapping too.
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  Speaker 1: It taking serious was the beginning of twenty eighteen. So
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  Speaker 1: between twenty eleven twenty eighteen, I'm just like just trying
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  Speaker 1: to figure it out, trying to grow in my character,
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  Speaker 1: integrity and saying, trying to really just become a man,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it's interesting because I feel like if
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  Speaker 2: someone says they're a Christian rapper, they automatically are looked
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  Speaker 2: at with a certain I would say negative stigma and
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  Speaker 2: hip hop. Would you say that's the case.
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  Speaker 1: I would say maybe in the grand scheme of things,
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  Speaker 1: But for me, that really hasn't been a case, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And maybe because of the sound that I have and
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  Speaker 1: how I look, whatever the case may be, like, and
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  Speaker 1: maybe because I'm authentically like from.
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  Speaker 2: Here right, I mean, listen, you have I told I
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  Speaker 2: told you this off. So I was like, Bro, your
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  Speaker 2: shit is like high fiass Christian music. It's like music
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  Speaker 2: you geld bit of carto and then repent after card.
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  Speaker 1: To after Yo. Hey, I'll take that, yeah, as long
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  Speaker 1: as they were apinted.
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  Speaker 2: But uh, yeah, you know, because because for me, it's
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  Speaker 2: like there's guys like Shouts of Lacree, who's obviously had
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  Speaker 2: a major deal with Atlantic for I think it was
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  Speaker 2: Atlantic Colombia. I think Combia. Yeah, but he was on
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  Speaker 2: a major label. I don't know if he still is
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  Speaker 2: or not. I don't want to speak about the situation,
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  Speaker 2: but obviously very successful artist. I feel like Lacree was
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  Speaker 2: like he was dope, but he happened to be a
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  Speaker 2: Christian rapper. And I kind of feel like that's the
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  Speaker 2: key because there's guys who like a quote unquote Christian rappers,
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  Speaker 2: but their music is very it's not very palatable.
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  Speaker 1: Like for like a general audience.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I feel like I pressed play on your
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  Speaker 2: ship and I was like, oh, this is just like
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  Speaker 2: if I didn't know that, like this is just some
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  Speaker 2: shit to.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like once you realize is Christian, it's too late,
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  Speaker 1: like you already like it, right, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: And so that's kind of like the method like putting
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  Speaker 1: the the medicine and the food.
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  Speaker 2: Is there any uh? Because obviously is there like a
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  Speaker 2: Christian rap world that you have to kind of penetrate
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  Speaker 2: and get into, Like are there? Like I just do
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  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like, there's definitely a world.
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  Speaker 2: Are there Christian rap blogs and shit?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Like what's the Christian rap academics?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Ooh, Christian Rap Academics. Oh okay, proper exl okay.
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  Speaker 1: So that's a popular instagram for Christian rap rap Zilla,
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  Speaker 1: you got ch Promotions. Anda stands for Christian hip Hop
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  Speaker 1: and there's like a plethoro though.
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  Speaker 2: So there's like tons of Christian hip hop artists that
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  Speaker 2: they don't even know there is. It's just the world.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not hip too whatsoever.
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  Speaker 1: It's a subgenre of hip hop, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: But people are selling out shows.
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  Speaker 2: No, I saw you do it. Listen. It is not
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  Speaker 2: easy to sell. There's so many artists that could not
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  Speaker 2: sell out a quarter of the Novo let alone the
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  Speaker 2: full thing. So that's very, very impressive. And you got
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  Speaker 2: to show coming up to the Observatory too in August.
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  Speaker 1: Right, August thirty first yep.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So like you're doing like big venues, Like this
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  Speaker 2: is like a movement that you're doing. So I think
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  Speaker 2: it's dope. Like kudos to you, ma because doing it
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  Speaker 2: your way.
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  Speaker 1: Oh much, love, bro, It's a blessing. You know. I
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  Speaker 1: used to think that I had to rap about a
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  Speaker 1: certain thing a certain way to make any kind of
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  Speaker 1: progress or be successful. But it's like I'm just leaning
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  Speaker 1: to what I feel like is right.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, at the end of the day, I always
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  Speaker 2: tell people if you got a niche, and I'm not
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  Speaker 2: saying that, like you being a Christian is a niche
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  Speaker 2: because this is your life, like it's who you are, right,
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  Speaker 2: But in hip hop it's a niche. Yeah yeah, And
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  Speaker 2: like you know, with any sort of art form, I
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  Speaker 2: feel like, lean into your niche because it's tribe, yeah
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  Speaker 2: for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And we I feel like I tried found
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  Speaker 1: us though, Like we just started putting on music. Then
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  Speaker 1: I put out a song called Glow and then our
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  Speaker 1: followers would just like organically call my team like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: look at the Glow Team. Look at the glowers. It's
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  Speaker 1: not okay, glow Nation. They'll call them glow Nation. And
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  Speaker 1: then I grew into something bigger than we can imagine.
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  Speaker 1: You feel me. Now we got Glow Festival.
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  Speaker 2: So is that your like your fan base, like your beehive,
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  Speaker 2: my behive, glow Nation is your behive?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, my my Bobby Socks is my rap pack. You
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: So who was your who were your favorite rappers? Just
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  Speaker 2: like coming up like that, you obviously being from the
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  Speaker 2: Bay like, who are some guys who like influenced you?
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  Speaker 2: Who you would take.
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  Speaker 1: The main one for surely forty forty my getto report Card.
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  Speaker 1: That album definitely shaped my childhood. You know. Of course
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  Speaker 1: Mac dre as well. The wolf Pack got my bands a.
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  Speaker 2: One of the most influential rap groups ever that gets
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  Speaker 2: no credit.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, and then I feel like what came out of
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  Speaker 1: the wolf Pack is like HBK Gang so.
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  Speaker 2: And I would like to point out that a lot
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  Speaker 2: of those beat that the Packs were rapping on us
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  Speaker 2: sounded a lot like Mustard and League of Stars.
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  Speaker 1: That came a little I wasn't gonna say, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, must love, must love to muster to everybody.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, but I'm just letting you like that the
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  Speaker 2: Bay had a little they had some influence on everybody.
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  Speaker 2: I just had this conversation yesday. I'm like, Yo, the
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  Speaker 2: Bay and Texas get no love when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: who they influenced, Like the Bays influenced everybody and the
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  Speaker 2: Baby and always forgotten. We know it's no, yeah, definitely
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  Speaker 2: know because y'all let everybody know. Trust me, you meet
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  Speaker 2: somebody from the Bank, they'll tell you.
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  Speaker 1: We got this big chip on our shoulder. You feel me.
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  Speaker 2: But people from the Bear are like people who do CrossFit.
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  Speaker 2: They won't stop telling you about that. Yeah we get it,
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  Speaker 2: we get yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like it's the culture. We're proud of it.
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  Speaker 1: And if nobody gonna talk about it, were gonna talk
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  Speaker 1: about it. Got you.
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  Speaker 2: Have you worked with the obviously you're making noise. Have
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  Speaker 2: you worked with any of the other up and coming
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  Speaker 2: art like a guy like Pilo or like you know,
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  Speaker 2: some of the guys who are making John Mexican. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if you would you work with somebody if
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  Speaker 2: they are not Let's ask that, if they're not aligned
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  Speaker 2: with you spiritually, values wise, would you work with someone?
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  Speaker 1: And we was talking about this yesterday on ruse Line.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm actually about to get in the studio with Pilow,
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  Speaker 1: coming up song. We're gonna make some slaps. I'm in
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  Speaker 1: a studio with l Russell in two days. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And these aren't necessarily Christian artists.
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  Speaker 2: He is not a Christian, you know, and had some nights.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But that don't mean we
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  Speaker 1: can't make a song that is palatable for both of
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  Speaker 1: our audiences that doesn't come.
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  Speaker 2: You'll work with Yeah, as long as it's not some
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  Speaker 2: crazy as long as than I. You're not gonna work
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  Speaker 2: with white boy Cardi though.
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  Speaker 1: I mean now me feel me like the symbolism and stuff,
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  Speaker 1: the people getting possessed during his concerts, we can have
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  Speaker 1: to work on that.
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  Speaker 2: I've been I've been to a Cardi show and very
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  Speaker 2: very some vampire member me and it's there and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, what the fuck's happening.
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  Speaker 1: Like some vampires.
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  Speaker 2: No, I just didn't. Dude, was like a seance on stage,
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, you know, that was the only time
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  Speaker 2: in hip hop and like, you know, I'll be around
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  Speaker 2: some young young ass ship. But if the Cardi ship
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  Speaker 2: had rolled them loud. Yeah, seeing all these it was
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  Speaker 2: this is in Miami, you seeing all these dusty ass,
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  Speaker 2: muddy white kids with beat up forces just fucking just
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  Speaker 2: like it was just like, I'm like this, I don't
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  Speaker 2: get it. Yeah, It's the only hip hop moment in
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  Speaker 2: my life where I looked up and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what's happening. Let's go back to the trailer.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't really understand it either, you know,
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  Speaker 1: shout out to him. Yeah, big, big shout out. Soon
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  Speaker 1: he got a movement behind him, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: So maybe one day we could we could top it
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  Speaker 1: up or something.
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  Speaker 2: Do you feel like as somebody who is a Christian
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  Speaker 2: do you feel because I feel like nowadays a lot
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  Speaker 2: of artists they have like cult like followings, and I
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  Speaker 2: feel like there's a lot of kids who kind of
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  Speaker 2: replace like, you know, when I was growing up, but
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  Speaker 2: my parents are growing up. I feel like religion was
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  Speaker 2: a lot more like pushed upon kids and you know,
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  Speaker 2: stuff like that. But nowadays it feels like like artists
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  Speaker 2: and celebrities and are kind of like the new religion
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  Speaker 2: for a lot of these kids.
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  Speaker 1: Do you Yeah, Yeah, Well, so like your question is like,
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  Speaker 1: how do I feel about Yeah, Like, well, Christianity not
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  Speaker 1: being the norm as it was before. I mean, this generation,
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  Speaker 1: they're heavily influenced by what they see on their phones
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  Speaker 1: or like the artists of today. I'm just I'm just
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  Speaker 1: grateful that I found something that's more more meaningful to me.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, That kid, that's that lasts
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  Speaker 1: longer than the hype of an artist, You know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, So I'm just trying to encourage people like, fine, fine,
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  Speaker 1: find your your peace, you know what I'm saying. And
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  Speaker 1: my piece is found in Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: So do you care like to have non religious people
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  Speaker 2: like come to your party? Like do you want do
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  Speaker 2: you want those people to like be fans?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 2: Or is it like, hey, I got the show because
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  Speaker 2: what's the name of your album? It's like Cali Christ.
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  Speaker 1: What is it?
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  Speaker 2: Christ like California. So it's like me like if I
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  Speaker 2: didn't know, like if DJHA didn't put me up on
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  Speaker 2: you or Ace didn't call me, if someone sent me
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  Speaker 2: an album and said Christ like California as somebody's gotta
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  Speaker 2: tell you, I'd have been like, well, this shit ain't
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  Speaker 2: for me. I wouldn't even a press play. Now I
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  Speaker 2: pressed play and I was like, oh, this ship is fire,
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  Speaker 2: Like this shit is dope. But it's like I almost
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  Speaker 2: feel it's almost like when Kanye put out Jesus King.
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  Speaker 2: It was my least favorite Kanye album because I felt
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  Speaker 2: like he was pushing something on me and I was like, well,
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  Speaker 2: this ain't for me. You know what I'm saying. I
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  Speaker 2: feel like listening to your music, it doesn't feel like
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  Speaker 2: you're overly like slapping people upside the head with yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but what uh? But the title is the title is
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  Speaker 2: like it's going to like scare some people off before
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  Speaker 2: they even are able to give you a chance.
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  Speaker 1: I can feel that. I can feel that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not to say that like you care or you
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  Speaker 2: should care because your this is your mission. Yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 2: just from my perspective, I'm like, well, me in this
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  Speaker 2: fool like he's he's he's Jewish. He just did a
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  Speaker 2: he just did a twenty three and me and found
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  Speaker 2: out he's thirty percent Jewish. Yes, he just did the test.
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  Speaker 2: He's Jewish and Mexican straight up. His his his grandma
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  Speaker 2: cheated on his grandpa with the Jewish neighbor. We found
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  Speaker 2: all that. We literally found this all out in the
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  Speaker 2: last twelve months. My producer did one of the DNA
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  Speaker 2: tests for people who can't see him on camera. Now
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  Speaker 2: he does. I told him he's a leading I told
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  Speaker 2: him he's a leaning to it. I said, got you
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  Speaker 2: own it, it's who you are. You got to go
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  Speaker 2: to the bable shop anyway. But I was just saying
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  Speaker 2: like in terms of like we're hip hop fans. So
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  Speaker 2: when I hear when I heard your music, I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: this shit is dope. But I think that like the
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  Speaker 2: like you like we said the title. If I was
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  Speaker 2: just some normal rap fan, I might be like, man,
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  Speaker 2: that's some preachy ash Christian shit, like, yeah, how do
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  Speaker 2: you find the because you're obviously what you're doing is
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  Speaker 2: working for you. That's why I'm like, do you care that?
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  Speaker 2: Like that might push normal hip hop fans away or
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  Speaker 2: maybe just turn them off from like trying to discover
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  Speaker 2: what you got.
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  Speaker 1: I mean maybe I could. I could consider the titles more,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm more so think about them when i'm making
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  Speaker 1: the music more so than i'm titling the song right,
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  Speaker 1: Like with a song like boosted Up, Like that's a
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  Speaker 1: song about God to going harder in your faith. But
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  Speaker 1: when you put that thing on, you get sneeze to it,
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  Speaker 1: squabble to it, you can go crazy to it, and
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  Speaker 1: it's not going to scare them away. And for christ
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  Speaker 1: like California the album, really that was me like blending
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  Speaker 1: my faith with the culture. You know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: because you're gonna get this cross like message, but with
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  Speaker 1: the California sounds stop no, it sound great. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: appreciate it bro, But yeah, man, we're just trying to
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  Speaker 1: trying to figure it out as we go. No, I
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  Speaker 1: mean it's working man grateful.
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  Speaker 2: Do they have any Christian rap beefs happening? You know?
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  Speaker 1: Yes there is, yes, wow, yes, but a lot of
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  Speaker 1: it is like like on the low, like.
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  Speaker 2: On the under, people hating on the low.
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  Speaker 1: On the under you'll be surprised, like how many unreleased
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  Speaker 1: Christian disc songs you will.
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  Speaker 2: Find it's very Unchristian like.
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  Speaker 1: No for really, that's why they don't put it out. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: that's why they don't release it.
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  Speaker 2: You and the Craig got beef. It started the Kendrick verse.
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  Speaker 2: Drake things sounds. I know, they're not like us freestyle.
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  Speaker 1: Right, so did so did uh? So.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just curious here because Christian rappers beefing with each
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  Speaker 2: other just feels it just feels it feels like an oxymoron.
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  Speaker 1: But you know what people have, You know what, people
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  Speaker 1: tend to use my songs to subliminately dis other people
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  Speaker 1: on them.
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  Speaker 2: Oh so you have songs with features where other guys.
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  Speaker 1: Like, why you gotta do that? All by soul? Like
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  Speaker 1: they don't drop names, but it's like you're clearly talking
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  Speaker 1: about so and so on my song.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, when you hear that, do you send them
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  Speaker 2: a text and say ww JD. Jesus wouldn't diss somebody
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  Speaker 2: on my song, don't sub somebody on my shit?
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  Speaker 1: Hey hey, but but you will be told Jesus was
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  Speaker 1: low key dissing a lot of people in a Bible.
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  Speaker 1: Satan for sure, if you look at it, you don't
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  Speaker 1: say the overreligious folks.
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  Speaker 2: Here was smoke for Satan and the overreligious folks.
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  Speaker 1: And the over religious.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think overreligious people are a problem?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? What would you just find is overreligious?
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  Speaker 1: Okay? Okay, I think I think. I think it's a
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  Speaker 1: good thing to really break down. So an example of
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: somebody being overreligious is, let's say the protesters that come
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: to my events. We get protested a lot by certain
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: religious groups that say what you're doing you satanic? Is demonic.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: God doesn't approve trust me.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: I walk by them all the time. I go to
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: wrestling shows, and these guys are they got fucking signs
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: and megaphones screaming at me, and I'm just like dude,
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: and it's like, I think this is how like you're
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: gonna like? This is not how it's done, buddy.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean, It's like I respect like
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: the heart behind it. They may think they're doing the
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: right thing, but like, Bro, that's that's not how you.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: You're not going to reach me that way. You're not
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: going to get me to change that way. Even if
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: I felt like I wanted to change off for what
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: you're saying, it's not going to happen through that sit
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: down with me. Yeah, send me a DMR, talk to
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: somebody that.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, but you're putting out great music. That's about.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: I think. I think what they want from me is
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: the overtness that maybe other artists offer.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: Tell them to go protest Sexy Red not you ship bro. Bro.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: We did an event in downtown LA called Glovember. There
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: was a rave next.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: Door to our event, but there are protesting you.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, if you want to come against darkness, right,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: go next door.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: Everyone's on ecstasy next door.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying. Yeah, So I don't know that.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: To me, that's that's overreligious. But we just try to
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: We try to really live for the Lord and just
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: be ourselves.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: What was what? What? What kind of was the catalyst
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: to you finding Christ? And you know giving your life. Hey,
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: it's a good hazus out there. Yeah.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Two two two things, two things. One day when
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: I was sixteen years old, it was a Wednesday night.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: I was smoking weed heavy in the middle of a
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: smoking session. Good Wednesday, Yeah, good good, good weed Wednesday.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: My friend was like, hey, Miles, bro, we should go
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: to church. I'm like, go to church. Hi like Hi,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: talking about great time, were talking about go to church.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: It's like, Bro, they got the girls of the youth group.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Bro go crazy, like, let's tap in, let's really go
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: uh high out some girls. And so we went. But
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: the youth group was closed that night, and so we
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: went into the main the main sanctuary with all the
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: older people. So we went in there and then me
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: never been in a church before. I've never been a
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: church person. I don't know on the music, I didn't
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: know anything about it. But in the service, I was
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: like captivated.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: What kind of church was this? Was this a black church?
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Black church? I was captivated. Then at the end of
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: the message, the pastor that was called an altar call,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: where you called somebody to the front they want to
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: accept the Lord. And when I went to the front,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: me being the only one that went to the front.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: It's like I was uncontrollably like crying my eyes out,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: and I literally felt something I never felt before. It
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: was like a warmth and embrace, you know what I'm saying.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: And so that wasn't the weed, Brother, wasn't the weed.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: It felt It felt like God took way one high
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: and gave me annoying that night.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Just so we're clear, the night you accepted God, you
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: were high.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: That's great, yeah, yeah, but but I was still like
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: like on the fence about it, even even with that moment.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: But two years after that, I was like in a
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: tug of war for my soul. Real Like my friends
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: in the streets was like Myles bro, like, why are
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: you switching up? Then my girlfriend at the time, who's
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: not my wife, she was like, let's go to church morrow.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Let's really like try to get better with this. And
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: so on a Saturday night, I'm like, God, if you're real,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: I need you to speak to me in church tomorrow
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: if you're real. If not, then I'll just live my
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: own life. I went to Hurst the next day. Out
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: of nowhere, the guest speaker from Atlanta seize me in
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: the back. He said, you young man, come here, calls
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: me out of a whole church, a whole crowded church.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: I came to the front. He was like, young man,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on in your life, but
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: I feel like your call to do music for God.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: God's gonna use you on social media. God's going to
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: change your life and all of these things. Right, tell
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: me things about myself. I didn't never talk nobody. He
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: didn't know I was struggling. He didn't know who He
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: didn't know who I was.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Who was this guy?
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: His name is Apostle Hardened. I never met him, No,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: no James Harden, but told me that and then that
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: that was like okay, like I feel like.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: This is to Apostle Harden. That guy he's on his ship.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Hey red no cap damn. He was tapped in.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: So he was just like he kind of just like
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: showed you the way, like, oh, this is this is
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: the right path I need to go on.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: I feel like God answered my prayer through him calling
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: me out to the front.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: That's nah, I mean I get it. That shit's crazy.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: They asked him before and then he called out the
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: music and the social media and wild and at that
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: so what year, how long ago?
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Is this rather that I was October fourteenth, twenty twelve.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Oh shit, that was twenty twelve. Like I didn't fully
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: dive into the music at that time, but that's when
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I knew eventually.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: So from twenty twelve to like twenty eighteen, what are
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: you doing to make money? You just got a regular job?
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: What are you So?
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I was working at a movie theater at that time,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: My Cinemas in Pittsburgh. Then I was working at Willis
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Fargo for like four years, then Travis Credit Union.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: So you were at the bank.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a little banker.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: You're good with math, yeah, but I hated it. I
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: did not like yo when you guys would like, my
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: friend manages bank and every time there's like sixty dollars missing.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: She's the manager, so she has to go through the
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: entire day. Sometimes she'll be at the bank until like
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: eleven o'clock at night trying to track down we're sixty.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Dollars Truma, bro don't even And that's how I got
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: That's how I got fired from the bank twenty nineteen.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Well, it could be it could be like that, but
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: but it's like if you can't find where the money's
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: missing it's on you, right, yeah.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: And sometimes it's like somebody goes to the bank and
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: they and you give them too much money. That's they're
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: not gonna give it back to you.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes but most of the time of course not
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: you would give it back. Presley's working in the hood.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: We worked in Antioch. Yeah, all kinds of people.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Shout out to Woody rest in peace. Big tones from
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: antioc Oh yeah, yeah, Hey, Simbuls from Antioch.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Yes he is. Yeah, that long Tree Deer Valley legend
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: him a young Kurt was really putting on.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I just so you were you were
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: just doing the normal shit. So you start taking music
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: series again at twenty eighteen, yep, yep for Shelly.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: So how many I was a youth pastor too during
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: the time I was working at the bank, so I'm
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: at the charge like he's young people and stuff too.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: How many?
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Like, how long before you actually started to like catch
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: real track should doing this new style of music and
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: you were like, oh, this is gonna work, like this
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: might work out, like immediately immediately.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, immediately. It's been it's been a slow burn, but
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I had any immediate spark.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Well, you're also pretty talented. So like a lot of
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Christian rappers aren't that talented, you know, from what I've heard,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: at least, the only one I can point at is
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: L Craze.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you on some dope ones.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Do you remember a guy named Carmen back in the
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: day who used to sing on like Channel Towell, on
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: like the Christian TV. His name was Carmen Carmen, I
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: don't know, Oh my god. So I been to black
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: churches many times as my best friends, like very religious,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: grew up with him, would go to church with him.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: And every time I'd be like the only white kid
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: and that motherfucker and I feel like the preacher would
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: be looking right at me, and I just feel and
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: I have all these older black ladies dancing and losing
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: their shit. Yeah, sitting there just shook, like, man, why
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: do I spend on that at this one's house this weekend?
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: But there was this but he used to listened to
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Christian music at his house. There's a guy named Carmen,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: and then obviously Kirk Franklin, you know.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Kirk still going crazy to this day.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Apply stunt double.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: As plies five.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Well no, no, yeah, plies is history. Yeah, it could
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: be plies that. Yeah, but no, I mean, like, obviously
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: your shit is actually dope, so like it's immediately you
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: saw that it was going to work.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Immediately, I felt like, you know, it was not for
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: me to dive into it. So I was doing everything
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: that I could to really try to pop off and
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: gain some traction. So I was dropping freestyle videos, was
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: going kind of crazy on Instagram. But I was also
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: doing every kind of show I could, community show, church show,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: even like these awards ceremonies for rappers in the Bay
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: and so this one is called the non Quota Awards
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: for the Not Too five area code in Pittsburgh. That
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: happened in twenty eighteen. I was the only Christian rapper
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: a part of the show. And in the middle of
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: my set, while I'm performing, the music cuts out right
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: as it cuts out. Instead of me panicking being pissed
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: at the sound man, I just frezed out a hook.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Devil want to run up on me? It's bad. Somebody
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: recorded it. It went viral on Facebook. The whole theater
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: went dumb to that joint. And that was my first
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: song that really like in California, That's do Yeah, it's
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: kind of crazy, kind of crazy. Yeah, So that that
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: like had my schedule going nuts. Like my my tour
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: schedule was like an engine scroll you have to.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Like so you're doing like concerts, you're doing like church stuff.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Like all of the above. Like so I was throwing
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: my own shows, but primarily I was getting booked at
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: conferences at churches and youth groups and all of that.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: But it would be lit and I would post the
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: footage and it's like, you couldn't really tell it's a church.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: It looks like it's a lit concert, you know what
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I'm saying.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: So I gotta ask you because I, uh, I was
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: just listening to a podcast about uh about religion a
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: little bit. But they were talking about Joe Olstein and
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: what's the guy with the evil eyes who got the
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: private jet? Oh uh, the white dude.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: No, not Kraftlow, it's the white dude.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: I know he's talking about that, ye like a real
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: like he was like Tyler Perry made it so cheap
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: for me. I had to buy it.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: I had to buy Yeah, he's he's he's the richest
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: pastor in the world right now, just for people know
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: he's worth like one hundred million dollars. He's more rich
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: than Joelstein, like he's.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Paid because he's like internationally influenced.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Correct anyway, So you know, my main gripe with religion
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: in general is the I feel like it is easily
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: manipulated to control poor people. And I feel like, you know,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: the whole entire like idea of being a pastor or
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: being like a preacher, being somebody who's like a man
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: of God is like to be selfless. That should be
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: the idea, you know what I mean. And you know,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: I feel like at times we'll see like these preachers
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: who will fully take advantage of the gig of having
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: a non non taxable entity that they're a part of, yes,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: and you know they use it for their benefit, and
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: you know it is what it is. But you know,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: me and my boy James are just talking and he
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: was like, it's crazy because he grew up in the church,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: and he was like, he's a stand up comedian. He's like,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: being a preacher is kind of like being a stand
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: up comedian. He's like, because you gotta you gotta kind
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: of like spit your shit.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: You gotta captivate them.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: And then you gotta hopefully you get your own church,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: and then otherwise people are doing like there's preachers who
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: are preaching in like a room like this with chairs
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: and then you know, eventually they get their own church.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: He's like, the thing is is like I just feel
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: like it's crazy. If like a preacher comes to preach
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: in like a two thousand dollars suit and then goes
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: and jumps in like a S five hundred.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: They're likely and their church is falling apart.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: It ain't even that. It's like, yo, like, isn't that
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: kind of like not what God would want? Or I'm crazy?
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Like Joel Olstein is so rich and my and this
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: podcast I was listening to was like Joe Olstein such
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: a great motivational speaker that if he just stepped away
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: from being a quote unquote preacher and was a motivational
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: speaker who happened to be Christian, people would look at
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: him in like a lot more like a positive way
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: because he's like very talented. He's a talented a lot
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: of these guys very uplifting talented guys. But at the
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: same time, like it's the same guy who like initially
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: tried to prevent people from sheltering at his church until
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: he got called out for and then he was like,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: oh no, no, no, But that's probably my biggest gripe
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: with like commercial Christianity is like a lot of the
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: quote unquote like faces of it to me or like
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: based on my knowledge of Christianity not very christ like.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: M Yeah, I've definitely, I've definitely seen what you're talking about.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Of course is like a well known thing as some
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: pastors may have been exposed for those kind of things.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Or I've been at churches to where the doorknobs are missing,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: but you have a Bentley, the paint is falling off
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: of the walls, but you got the friend gatas on.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Like a lot of stuff din't add up for.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Me, none of that makes sense.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but for me early on, it's like I had
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: to realize, like it would be unhealthy for me to
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: let Christians take me away from Christ. You know what
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, regardless of what they are doing, God
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: didn't do this to me. People are flawed, you know
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, But but but God is not. So
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: that's that keeps me like focused, like even though they're
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: wild'n out sleeping with whoever. You know what I'm saying,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: steal the money from whatever. I know? God is still good.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Would you ever actually like be a preacher? Obviously you
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: did youth pastoring, but would you ever like, you know,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: try to like be like yo, I'm a fucking like
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: leave music and do that like maybe when you're fifty.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I won't.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Close the door to it because I'm a preacher now
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: for real?
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean you preach, hear music. Yeah, but
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: you're still an artist. You're not a preacher. So yeah,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: you're dope artists who happens to you know like that.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: There's a line there.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: It's like I know how to how to I guess
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: convinced people of the message at the concerts too. It's like,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: all righty to boost it up for the Lord. I mean,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I'll use that voice. But you know what I'm saying,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I hype them up and contract.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: He said, what anybody ever fight at your shows?
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Somebody? Somebody somebody ran up on me on stage Christian
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Rapper in Long Beach. No, not on Chris or Rapper.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: He tried to press me in the middle of my concert.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: What where was your security? No?
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: But you but you know what. Security came like ten
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: seconds after. They probably thought I was a part of
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: the act because I'll be having a lot.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Of trying to press you in Long Beach.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because like somebody was in the crowd like let
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: the little kids get on stage, and I was kind
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: of like dismissive a little bit like maybe later on,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: later on. And then he was like, but this about
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: the young people, and he got on stage really try
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: to like you know in LA. They be like, you
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, that's crazy, But security pulled up
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: on them. They pulled them in the parking lot. He
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: look he started to like like exorcist type energy. He
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: was like manifested. I'm like, yo, what is going on? Wait?
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: The dude tried to press you started like he like
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: fell out and was like, oh I'm saved.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: No, kind of like he had a demon in them.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: That was great. So that that was the only like
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: situation that came close to like a confrontation physically. But yeah,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: bro was on one. It could have been the ecstasy.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know, have you ever.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Seen someone get exorcists exercisted?
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: What is that?
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: I said?
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: That exercise? I think they call it an exercise. You
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: know a month ago, what a month ago? I've seen
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: it and see me. Valley tried to see me, Valley, man,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: they seen real calm. I might get a spot out there,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: you see me value place. I went to Revelations Church
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: with Pastor Lovy and y'all, I'm telling you, people drive
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: from all over the country to go to this man's church. Yeah,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: he's ministering to the this young lady and she's like
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: kind of like crying, like Pastor, I need help, I
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: need help, And he's being encouraging to her. Then all
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: of a sudden he stops talking to her and talk
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: to something that's inside her. He was like, come out
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: of her right now, and she went from to.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Get got the fuck up out.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like her eyes was like I'd have been out
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: and then like come out of her right now. Then
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: she like melted to the ground. I'm like, oh lord,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: it was wild.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: You stayed I'd have been all right, y'all.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: And that was the first one of the night. It
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: was like four of them, four x. It was like
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: four of them on a Thursday night. I'm good man, Yeah,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: shout out to the prophet LOGI that's crazy.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Uh you gotta Obviously your album's out, Uh are you, like,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: I know you got a show coming up in Orange County,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: but are you doing like a national tour? What's going
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: on with you right now?
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah? We're playing Well, we just came off of a tour.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: The first leg across like tour. We was in Canada, Seattle, Portland,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Las Vegas, Phoenix, Houston, Atlanta, Detroit, Milwaukee, you know what
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. But we're going to extend that joint and
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: really the next top for us is this Saturday. We
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: have our own festival every year in the Bay. It's
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: called glow Fest, and so this year is going to
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: be massive. Is glow really going to be there?
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm kidding, Glowrilla Big Glow got to
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: come to glow Fest.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I ain't gonnaw. I was hot. I was hot when
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: she came out because I'm like, dang, like she got
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: that glow branding on lock, Like, oh yeah she got
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: it at first.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Our first yeah, glow Cubans and Grubans.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Our festival was called Glowcella at first.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Oh that's dope. And then you probably got hit with
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: that season desist.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Coachella did hit us yeah, of course they did. Yeah,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: they hit us up.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't play any type of cella, don't.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Exactly the word cella. Then like we own we own
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: the word chella, so you can't use this. And I
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: changed it to glow Fest and they still like came after.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Us, but no, wait, came after you for glow Fest.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: So it's it's it's a whole story, man. We changed
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: the name of the Instagram from Gloateella to glow Fest,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: but we had some fly another year in different parts
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: of the country, but not like, uh, they shut down
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: our page because we still had flyers up from last
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: year that said Glowatella on it. You know what I'm saying.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: We tried to make a new page and that one
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: was shut down too. Damn they were serious. But now
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: we're working with Coachella. Shout out the Golden Voice.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, tried the Golden Voice.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, are you?
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Because I mean obviously that they I think they owned
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: the Observatory.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Right yeah, yeah, yeah they do.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah man, so did they do Coachella too? Damn them, motherfuckers.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Glow Fests are rich Golden Voice whatever. You know what
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: I meant guys are rich too speak prophetic, put it
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: in the air. Yeah yeah, but who else is dope?
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: That's a Christian rapper that I should check out.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Oh you to check out somebody named Hovey Hoby hit
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: a song with Sierra. He's sough, he's more overt, but
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: the vibes are there.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Is that the guy who subbed someone on your song?
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: No, not him, not him, he's too holy for that.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Uh and Holy Caleb Caleb Gordon Caleb Gordon's super Fire. Yeah,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: probably the next to willly go mainstream with it. Who
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: who am I?
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: John?
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Keith John? Keep going crazy here a real rapper, rapper.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: We're working on the project together called the West Indies.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: You guys are doing like a joint album, like.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: A joint joint EP with five songs. West Indies capitalized
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: on the on the movement and of course La Cree
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: any mineo Hey, Andy's Dope, Andy Hard And it is
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: like a perfect example.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Of a guy who's like, you know it, content is
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: his content, but like he just makes no music. You're
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: listening to it and you're like, oh, this guy's I
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: know where he stands on the religious side.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's talking about God. You know what I'm saying.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: So he's one of our goats, craning Andy, those are
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: our goats for sure. I mean, this is this a
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: whole movement. There's too many for me.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Kanye is not a Christian rapper. Goat No, they asked,
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: you know, he wasn't. He didn't. He win Best Christian
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Album of the Year at the Grammy.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: He topped all the charts. He won Best Christian Album.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Hey Jesus Walks. It's a great record.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: That joint is mount Rush Moore of Christmas song.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, and he had hell of people singing
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: about Jesus that would not have otherwise sang about Jesus.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think I think we can't. We can't
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: put him up there because like it was short lived.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, Kanye is a flawed man, but
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: he's you know, He's also got the biggest Christian rap
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: song of all time.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: It's the biggest, But is it the best?
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: In my opinion?
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Was that Oh yeah? The song?
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a song I don't know about No No, No, No,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: No No Now. Jesus King album. He great beats shots
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: and my guy books to be s murdered. The production
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: on there, but it's just Miss Moors Kanye album in
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: my opinion, just respectfully, what do you listen to non
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Christian rap music in your spare time? Or do you
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: not want you try to shake that energy?
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: I'll make sure I don't. I don't dive in too
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: deep into the rabbit hole, you know what I'm saying.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: But I'm definitely tapping.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Because that's probably rub off on you a little, like
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: some of the energy I.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Mean, but it would be foolish for me to not
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: to not be tapped.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Like who you're listening to? That's like not like who
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: you bumping? Like who you like? What are you a
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: fan of? Right now?
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Am I bumping? That's not? Oh? Can I say this
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: on air? I like listening to a lot of underground artists?
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: What's that? Because I know what underground is for my day,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: which literally underground, like the underground now is like yo,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I like logic.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Like logic is definitely not underground and shout out to logic.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: People think Corda is underground, right, Corday is like an
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: undergroundish artist, but he's still underground. No, But he's like
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: if he was in if it was ninety nine, he'd
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: be underground. Common was underground. No, Common don't have one plaque.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: That's a crazy thing to say out loud. Common has
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: much more than one plaque. You gotta relax with that.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: No Common was a underground rapper. I literally just told
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: him to his face. I said, thank you for changing
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: my life. You're an I never met a backpack underground
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: rap anyway. The new definition of underground is an underground playboy.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Cardi's underground to an extent. Is he a commercial artist?
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Is he commercially successful? Of course not. Have you ever
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: turned on the fucking radio and her to playbook Cardis
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: song in the last five years? No, you haven't, because
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: he's not. He's he's an underground cult artist. No. But
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: has he ever had a number a top five solo
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Billboard record, a top ten solo Billboard record? Of course not.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: He hasn't.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: No Roadwave broadwave is not underground. Yeah, but he's making
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: commercially palatable music.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, So who are listening to I.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Think it's crazy about how he's not underground, but he's
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: selling out arenas or he is underground something Rod waving
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: him like it's crazy. How you don't have to be
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: like mainstream, but you could.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Like gold Rod number one Records in urban radio, so
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't consider him underground.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: But for me, underground for me is like Zoel Sama.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yellow Hill Aten.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Hey, Yellow Hills put out some our boy TK who
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: did his Christian rap song that he has with La
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Cra who's recorded and produced right here by our team
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: here for real.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, men, Yellow Hill been talking we're gonna link up.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all was Yellow Hill now he'd be cripp let
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: me say he'd be aggressive.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: He really just like, Oh, come to l A. He
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: l A l A.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: L A is not safe.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: L A is not safe.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: It's Yellow Hell.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: I'm like, do I be going that hard for the Bay? Like?
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Am I that Bay? How he is? L A? Is
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: that that brother?
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: LA person alive?
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Alive brother? And he'll let you know at all at
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: all it ain't safe for the toy.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Shout out to Jesus anyway, shouts shout to him and
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: look crazy. They got a dope song out produced.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's hard. Yeah, No, Yellow He is underground Yeah
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: yeah for solely uh HPK get under ground. My favorite
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: rapper to this day is I Am.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Sue shot to Bay Area Pioneer.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Sue, we got a record too. Oh
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: my god, he put me on a record. Uh he's
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: singing on that joint, you know, talking about.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: What God is stuff him, shot out to Sue.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Man I was probably more more edgy on that than
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: he was. Yes, shout out time I got him anyone.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, But go crazy, though.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: You should do it like I already know you already
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: did not like us freestyle, but you should do like
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: a not like us. But you're rapping like your God
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: to the devil.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Oh are you dirty devil?
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Or do the euphoria version? That's why you bach ask Satan.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Rapping to euphoria is more
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: difficult than not like us.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Do meet the Grahams, but about the devil. And you're
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: like wrapping from the perspective of God.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: And you journey devil. Understand you got kicked out of heaven.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: There you go with a nasal flow.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, throw a little playboard CARDI sliding in there.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, playboy. There. There was a point to
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: where his music was just like Vibby.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Really now, when he was rocking with a sap and uh,
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: you know the the Cozy Tapes era and and dilet
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: and then things just the Red tape what was it
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: called the Red album?
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: The Red album?
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Whatever it is? That ship was.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: You know, seeing seeing what he did at Rolling Loud
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: really inspired us to really go harder in our movement.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: What do you do?
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: He brought some guy looks like he was on Heroin,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: the white guy who was always with him, The guy
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: looks like he's got a serious Heroin problem.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: And then they were just like, yeah it was it
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: was yeah, it was all of that. And so I'm like,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: if they could do seemingly satanic stuff on a high level,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: I know it.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Was seemingly satanic, but are we for sure it was satanic?
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: To me?
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: They were just screaming and looking looking like they were
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: if I'm.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Not mistaken to think you had like some logos that
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: pointed to Satanism up Cross. Yeah, yeah, it's like, what's
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: the if you're not as satan is, what's the point
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: of having that? You know what I'm saying?
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: So, is there is in his defense? Is there a
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: world in which and upside down Cross means anything else?
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: I just don't know. I'm not hip to the imagery.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: You know, it's a possibility that it may be, but
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: from my understanding, it's it could be seen as blasphemy.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: It could be seen as fo God. I think, you know, honey,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: For the purpose of what they do, they just like
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: to put ship on shirts that they think looks cool.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: And it could be for shock values. It could be
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: for shock value for sure. But you shocking the wrong people, boy.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure?
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Are you are?
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: You're just straight Christian?
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Like? Is that?
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Because there's so many different types of factions, you know,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: it's like there's like Baptists, there's.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, like what what gang am I part of?
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Which click do I associate with? It's I'm not a
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: part of any of them. So they like to call
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: that non denominational becausemination, yeah, those cliques are denominations.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, seven Day Adventis and I don't.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I don't subscribe to any of them, not to say
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: that I won't, but like, I never even understood why
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: we have to separate ourselves like that. It's like, you
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: believe in Jesus, you're a Christian er.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know the difference between any of them, Like,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: what's a Lutheran compared to a Baptist compared to a
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: seven day advantage compared. Now, I do know once you
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: start getting into you know, Hovah's witnesses, they got some
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: interesting takes and they're very aggressive on the door knocks.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, one hundred Jehovah's witnesses.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Don't play them in the Mormons. You know, they've got
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Mormon fans, because that is a wild religion.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: No, I do. Catholic Mormons and Adova witnesses. They believe
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: that only one hundred, one hundred thousand people get into heaven,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: and so they're trying Mormons and Jehovah witnesses.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: I think the Mormons, the Mormons believe some much more
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: crazier shit for the.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Rerect Yeah, I think. I think they believe in like
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: some aliens, and like I got.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Tons of Mormon homies. I grew up. I went to
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: high school in Mesa, Arizona, with tons of Mormons. Shout
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: to them, sweet people. Mitt Romney, you know, shout out
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: to him, whatever the fuck he's doing with his life.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: You perform in Salt Lake City, yet.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: No, I have not.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: That's where you got all that. That's Mormon.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Mormon.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: You got to pull up and when you get on
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: the mic, you gotta say choose the right, and they'll be.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, like on some Republican stuff.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: No, choose the right is CTR. All the Mormons have
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: the CTR rings, so they call it the right.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Choose the right.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it means. I just know it's
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: something Mormons be saying, choose CTR.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: If I say that it's not some Republican they're gonna
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: impress me.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: No, no, they're not. They're gonna be like, fuck, yeah.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Damn, what you know about the right, homie.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: You know what's crazy though? When I was a kid,
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: like all the Mormons, like, you know, because the Mormons
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: are like super super nice people. They're really sweet people.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Obviously they're mostly conservative. Yeah, but all the Mormon kids
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: in school were the ones who were like doing the
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: real drugs. Like people got caught with heroin or pills.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: It was the Mormon kids because I feel like they
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: was like rebelling against their crib because you know, at home,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: may not allowed to drink caffeine, they can't watch the fuck.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: It's real strict. It's real strict. And that's that's the
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: danger with religion. It's like if you heavily restrict the
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: kids at home, they're likely to just do any and
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: everything when they get a little taste of freedom.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Is it safe to say scientology is the wildest religion ever?
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Well, I think wild wow may not be the right word. Good.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: There's some wild stuff out there, but Scientology.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Out of all the big ones, out of all the big.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Ones, it's it's the most concerning for show.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: It's pretty. It's pretty. Uh, it's pretty. It's interesting because obviously,
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: you know, whatever you feel about religion is what it is.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: But when you see the people, like I've watched all
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: the documentaries about too Going Clear and all that, and yo,
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: the fact that they're able to get people to buy
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: into this shit.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Like Hubbard was like, first of all, not very successful,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: but has more published science fiction works than any author ever.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: This dude's entire stick was he was a science fiction
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: author and then he created religion.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: It's wild and people believe it. And they'd be on
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: some gang banging the power trip stuff too.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: And they're like they got the mafia dog. They'd be
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: like taking fools out, bro. You know what I'm saying
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: for real?
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: And I think if you joined your high level of scientology,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: like you can't you can't get out.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: You can't get out, they won't let you out.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Bro. I was seen as one documentary. It was like
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: a testimoney about you know what they had doing dure.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: This lady was like, and they made me clean the
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: sanctuary with my tongue, Like since had to mop the
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: floor with her tongue, Like, what are we talking about?
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Listen, with any religion, there's the dark side of it.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: For sure, so it's not all terrible like that, but
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: science fiction novel, no.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: No, the scientologies as well. And I honestly, the Mormons
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: are right behind him. They're like, hey, Joe, Hey, what
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: about us. We're crazy as fuck too. Shots to the
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Mormon self. Anyway. Listen, man, you got a new album
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: out right now. Yeah, everybody go support it. You're doing
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: your thing. People can go buy tickets if you're in
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: the LA area, Orange County area for August thirty first,
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: and I sold out, Yeah, the Observer.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Toores, I sold out. Yeah, we're gonna pack that joint
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: out though.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: And anything else you want to talk about before you
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: get out here.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Hey man, it's grateful to be here, big bro, like real.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Sorry if I offended you or got you in trouble?
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Oh you good? Like I enjoyed this. I enjoyed this.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Yes, I don't you know, like why'd you sit down
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: with that atheist bastard in La?
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: You know, the the the over religious may say something,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: but the folks who know what's gonna be like, yo,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: you said with Blake cav Brother, you win it.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: I do want to interview like one of these mega preachers, Hey,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: which one, probably Joel because heel I feel like he's
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: a reasonable guy. I don't think he's like a psycho. No,
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: I think he's I think he's an entrepreneur, which is
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: a problem, which is a yeah. But when you watch him,
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: you're like, oh, this guy's a talented, motivational speaker. I
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: understand why people like him. He's a likable guy. I
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: don't think he's I don't think he's a bad guy.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: But it depends on what you think it's a bad guy.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Dang.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: But I want to interview one of them, like T D.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Jakes or what you know who you should interview Mike Todd.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Mike Todd sounds like a senator Fromentalist and Michael Todd
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: he's a young pastor but he's viral all the time. Mike,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: he's urban.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: I want to interview that dude who they ran up
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: on him in church and they try to rob him,
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: and then it came out that he was like ripping
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: off his in New York.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: He in jail.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: He's in jail. That's what I want to interview. And
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: he deserved to get robbed, for sure. He was robbing
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: his people.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: I think he was stunned. He had like all the rings.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Oh my god. See that's the kind of ship that
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: makes me want to throw up because I'm like, man,
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: you got your people coming to your church struggling. You're
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: asking him for money, but you out here dressed like
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: magic don Juan on Bro Like you know what I'm saying.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: I think he was like putting sam on people for
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: not giving him money or something like that. Like do
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: you that?
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Do you do the Tide?
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: I'll tied for sure, Yeah, roll Tide. It'd be tough sometimes,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: but I'm blessed.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: What are you supposed to tie? What's the percentage of
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: the Tide tithe?
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: There's a ten percent ten percent of what you get in.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Do you know?
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Like which church you're tithing is a different?
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: No, no, I'll give it to the church that I
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: go to. Okay, yeah, for sure. Nice And it's like,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: even if you don't look at the Bible, like, this
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: is a practical way to support what supports you. You
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, that's right.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Any charity stuff you're doing.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: Oh charity. Not yet. We're trying to say something up though.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: We're gonna do something called christ Like Christmas this year,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: just giving away pieces of our brand. We have a
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: clothing line called christ Like Collection. Is this your Oh yeah,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: one of them?
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Oh that's fire. You know when you wear that hat,
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: you give me country vibes, brown vibes.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: Hey man, Pittsburg is not It's not a big city's
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: locy kind of country, even though is it in the Bay.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: But we got cows.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: I didn't even know that existed.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: We got crops. Yeah.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: As you know, there's side shows and there's that's Oakland
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Richmond side shows.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Hose and broken windows and broken windows. We was going
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: to do our festival in Oakland at the Fox Theater.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Would have been a bad play. Yeah, you don't want
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: to do that. You know, all them Christians going out
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: there getting.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Fucking robbed, getting robbed, all of them.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: No, not like face to face rob, but like come
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: back outside after a great night watching Miles Minnick and
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: all of our windows are busted, and my work laptop's missing.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: And that happened. That happened in downtown LA, And now
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: I got to go.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: To the mission and try to find it because some
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Mexican dude selling it on the corner.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: It's a yeah, shout out to the bippers man.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: The bippers be pipping man. And in La it's starting
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: to come over here. Yeah, the culture is keeping bipping
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: out there. Bru. We don't need it here. We came
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: out here for a change, for sure.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Man, my car digger breaking in through four times in
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Long Beach where I live four times.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean you should probably stop leaving it in
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: your car.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Please do better. Nothing to be in there.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Well leave your windows.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: I'm try.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: No, you're right when you down trunk open, that's how
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: you got to do it.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Oh and for the Tesla, the front got to be up.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: The front got to be up at miles minute. I
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: appreciate you, brother, You all right? No, man, there it
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: is fire