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- 0:02You're listening to the Play Therapy Parenting Podcast
- 0:06with Dr. Brenna Hicks.
- 0:09Hi,
- 0:09I'm Dr. Brenna Hicks,
- 0:10The Kid Counselor.
- 0:11This is the Play Therapy Parenting Podcast where I give you insight,
- 0:15awareness,
- 0:15and enlightenment about your parenting
- 0:17and your relationship with your kids.
- 0:19In today's episode,
- 0:21we are continuing in the Parent Companion series,
- 0:24and I'd like to process
- 0:26nature versus nurture today.
- 0:28And I promise it's
- 0:30related to
- 0:31children in therapy too.
- 0:33But
- 0:34this is a really interesting dynamic
- 0:37that I think is often misunderstood or overlooked
- 0:40when it comes to what your children might be going through
- 0:44with their behaviors,
- 0:45with their emotions,
- 0:46with their personalities,
- 0:48with whether or not you're pursuing therapy.
- 0:50These are
- 0:51both relevant.
- 0:52The nature and the nurture both come into play here.
- 0:56So,
- 0:56want to kind of dive into this a little bit and,
- 0:59and kind of process how this all unfolds together.
- 1:02So we know nature versus nurture,
- 1:04age-old debate.
- 1:05It's been,
- 1:06you know,
- 1:06going around forever.
- 1:08And
- 1:09the nature component
- 1:11is
- 1:12how children are born.
- 1:13In other words,
- 1:15kids are born with
- 1:17intrinsic personalities.
- 1:19They are born with
- 1:21innate traits.
- 1:23Some children come out of the womb
- 1:25and they are more laid back.
- 1:28Some kids come out of the womb and they are
- 1:31more energetic.
- 1:33Some
- 1:34are
- 1:35funny
- 1:35from very,
- 1:36very early on.
- 1:38Some are timid and shy
- 1:39from very early on.
- 1:41Some are life of the party,
- 1:44social butterfly.
- 1:45Some are,
- 1:46I would just rather be by myself and read a book.
- 1:49All of these are those nature-based
- 1:53personality traits
- 1:54and tendencies.
- 1:55We all have them.
- 1:57All right,
- 1:57so now,
- 1:58hold that as its own isolated thought.
- 2:01Let's look at nurture.
- 2:03The nurture component
- 2:05is
- 2:06what happens
- 2:07in the child's life,
- 2:09what relationships are formed,
- 2:10what experiences they have,
- 2:13what they're exposed to.
- 2:15The circumstances,
- 2:16the situations,
- 2:18life in general
- 2:19happens.
- 2:21And
- 2:21nurture then influences
- 2:24development of personality too.
- 2:27It can
- 2:28influence children.
- 2:29It can change children.
- 2:31It can have sway.
- 2:34So,
- 2:34we have
- 2:35what the child is naturally born with,
- 2:37then we have what the child experiences as they grow and develop,
- 2:41and they work
- 2:42in conjunction with each other.
- 2:45So here's what often happens.
- 2:47It is really rare
- 2:49for a parent to sit down and chat with us about what's going on with their child.
- 2:54Where they don't say,
- 2:56well,
- 2:57I mean,
- 2:57it's kind of been an issue for a long time,
- 2:59but.
- 3:01And what that tells us as child-centered play therapists
- 3:04is
- 3:05this is nature and nurture.
- 3:07So let me unpack this.
- 3:10Child is
- 3:11refusing to eat anything but 3 different kinds of foods.
- 3:15Child is refusing to wear certain clothes
- 3:18because they hate the tags,
- 3:20they hate the seams,
- 3:20they hate the texture,
- 3:22they hate the feel of socks,
- 3:23they hate whatever.
- 3:25They will not sleep in their own bed.
- 3:28They are scared to go upstairs by themselves.
- 3:32And that's why a parent is seeking therapy.
- 3:35Well,
- 3:36I
- 3:36filter all of that into
- 3:39anxiety-based control.
- 3:42And then
- 3:44that's kind of the straw that breaks the camel's back,
- 3:46if you will.
- 3:46In other words,
- 3:47parents are like,
- 3:48OK,
- 3:48this has gotten out of control.
- 3:50This has gone too far.
- 3:51I can't take this anymore.
- 3:52We need help and support.
- 3:54And then in that initial parent consultation,
- 3:56when I'm kind of getting an awareness of
- 3:58why they're seeking therapy in the first place,
- 4:01my consistent question is,
- 4:03I wonder when this started.
- 4:05I wonder if you know there was a specific trigger.
- 4:08I'm wondering if you can trace this back to a specific point in time.
- 4:13Almost always,
- 4:15parents will say,
- 4:16well,
- 4:16I mean,
- 4:17we've,
- 4:17there's kind of always been issues with eating,
- 4:19like even since infancy,
- 4:21there's kind of always been issues with
- 4:23not really liking textures and like the sensory stuff.
- 4:26There's kind of always been.
- 4:28So in other words,
- 4:30we have an undercurrent of the nature.
- 4:33And then life and experiences and circumstances
- 4:36have come into play
- 4:37and
- 4:38had nurture kick in,
- 4:40and now it's too much.
- 4:43So the beauty of CCPT.
- 4:45Is that
- 4:47it addresses both.
- 4:49In other words,
- 4:50child-centered play therapy is never going
- 4:53to change a child's instinctive,
- 4:55innate personality.
- 4:57If a child
- 4:59is prone to anxiety,
- 5:01if a child is prone to timidity,
- 5:04if a child is prone to aggression,
- 5:06if a child is prone to fill in the blank,
- 5:09because that's the way they were born,
- 5:11CCPT doesn't change that.
- 5:12It doesn't take it away.
- 5:14It doesn't turn them into a different kid.
- 5:17It honors that
- 5:18that is how the child is made,
- 5:21you know,
- 5:21every single one of us are fearfully and wonderfully made.
- 5:25There's nothing about that child
- 5:27and any personality that that child has
- 5:30that needs to be fixed.
- 5:33That is the way God made them.
- 5:35OK.
- 5:36So then
- 5:37we realize
- 5:38life has added on
- 5:41and it's taken it
- 5:42over the top.
- 5:43So the way I like to describe it is,
- 5:45there's an undercurrent of these nature-driven tendencies.
- 5:50There's just this propensity toward aggression.
- 5:52There's a propensity toward anxiety,
- 5:55but
- 5:56under the best of circumstances,
- 5:58it stays controlled and tamped down.
- 6:02So if you kind of think of a horizontal line,
- 6:05all that stuff kind of stays pretty flat.
- 6:08But then you have an experience where
- 6:11something really,
- 6:12really upsets you.
- 6:13You have an experience where a relationship is really complicated.
- 6:17You have an experience where the world seems really unpredictable.
- 6:20You have an experience where a friend is really mean to you and hurts your feelings.
- 6:24You have a friend where
- 6:25now all of these nurture components are piling on.
- 6:29And all this undercurrent starts pushing its way up over that horizontal line.
- 6:35It kind of stayed tamped down before.
- 6:36It was kind of regulated and under control.
- 6:38It's always been there.
- 6:40But now all of a sudden this other stuff has piled on
- 6:43and it's starting to spike.
- 6:45It's starting to pop itself out of the ground,
- 6:47if you will,
- 6:48and
- 6:49it can't
- 6:50be controlled and and maintained anymore.
- 6:54And once stuff like that starts to bubble up
- 6:56or spike or whatever analogy you want to use,
- 6:59it's really hard to get it back to that horizontal line without support
- 7:04because patterns and behaviors
- 7:06and habits are formed.
- 7:08So
- 7:09what was always there and controllable is no longer controllable,
- 7:14and once it becomes uncontrollable,
- 7:16you really can't do it without help.
- 7:19And then here's why CCPT comes into the mix,
- 7:23because as we honor
- 7:25the natural
- 7:26personality of a child,
- 7:29We also provide the relationship and the environment
- 7:32for the kid to get themselves back under control.
- 7:36We never
- 7:37in any
- 7:38form or fashion,
- 7:40promise a parent
- 7:41your kid will not be anxious anymore.
- 7:44We never promise your kid will not be aggressive anymore.
- 7:47We never promise your kid will never be disregulated again.
- 7:52First of all,
- 7:52that those are
- 7:54just lies,
- 7:55but they're also not feasible.
- 7:58We don't ever
- 8:00aim to change the child.
- 8:02We aim for the child to be in control
- 8:06and regulated,
- 8:09and whatever natural personality traits that they possess,
- 8:13they don't interfere with daily function.
- 8:15That is always our
- 8:17measure of whether or not something is
- 8:20dysregulated or dysfunctional.
- 8:23If a child's anxiety.
- 8:26Is
- 8:27there,
- 8:27but it doesn't actually interfere with daily tasks,
- 8:30daily function,
- 8:31daily happiness.
- 8:33Like if a kid just goes,
- 8:34oh,
- 8:34I don't want to do that,
- 8:34that'd be scary.
- 8:36And they're not upheaved,
- 8:38they're not upset.
- 8:38It doesn't impact them in any negative way.
- 8:41They just say,
- 8:42I don't want to do that.
- 8:43That's too scary.
- 8:44But they are fully content and happy and satisfied,
- 8:47and there's no evidence that their anxiety is overwhelming them.
- 8:50That's not a child that has spiked up out of control.
- 8:55That's just who they are.
- 8:57I've had so many parents say my kid just doesn't talk to other kids.
- 9:00My kid just doesn't play with other kids.
- 9:02My kid just kind of sits off in the corner and
- 9:04like does his or her own thing and like I'm concerned.
- 9:07And my questions are always about
- 9:10how much is this impacting daily function.
- 9:12Does your child long
- 9:14to have friendships and can't form them?
- 9:17Does your child long for social engagement
- 9:19and cries him or herself to sleep because they feel so lonely?
- 9:23Or does your kid just prefer to read a book and
- 9:26be by themselves?
- 9:27That's introverted personality.
- 9:29That's not dysfunctional
- 9:31unless it's interfering with daily function.
- 9:34We're never trying to take the child's personality away,
- 9:37but once it gets out of control,
- 9:39CCPT provides the conditions that allow the child to address it.
- 9:43So guess what?
- 9:45I'm going to learn how to be less aggressive.
- 9:46I'm going to learn how to be less anxious.
- 9:48I'm going to learn how to control this,
- 9:51increase regulation,
- 9:53increase control.
- 9:55Then we're back to,
- 9:56I can cope
- 9:57and I can function
- 9:59and I don't have disruption and interference with my daily stuff.
- 10:04That's the beauty of child-centered play therapy.
- 10:06It honors both
- 10:07nature and nurture work in tandem.
- 10:11Nurture often exacerbates nature.
- 10:14And then we just have to sort it out so that the child can get back to
- 10:19happy and healthy.
- 10:20So,
- 10:21I hope that that kind of gives you perspective on how these work together.
- 10:25And
- 10:26obviously as we go through this parent companion series,
- 10:28it is designed to help you if your child is in therapy or not,
- 10:33to really have a sense of what's going on and how to best support and serve your kids.
- 10:38If you do not understand one of your child's traits or personalities,
- 10:43like you are the most laid back,
- 10:45easygoing parent
- 10:46and your kid is so intense
- 10:48and so in your face and you're like,
- 10:50I just don't understand what's wrong with my kid.
- 10:52Like I'm just not like that.
- 10:54That's not inherently a problem
- 10:57that your child has that personality
- 10:59if it's not interfering with daily function.
- 11:02And
- 11:03often,
- 11:04I mean,
- 11:04they talk about this in a lot of books,
- 11:06a lot of songs,
- 11:07a lot of proverbs,
- 11:08so I suppose
- 11:09this is kind of like,
- 11:10you know,
- 11:10universal acceptance of this notion.
- 11:14Often
- 11:15someone's greatest strength
- 11:17can also be one of their greatest weaknesses.
- 11:21There is a pro and a con to every personality trait.
- 11:24There is a pro and a con to every instinctive
- 11:28characteristic that someone has.
- 11:30So
- 11:31we focus on the doughnut,
- 11:33not the hole,
- 11:33to go back to
- 11:35one of the rules of thumb that we talked about ages ago.
- 11:38Look at what is there
- 11:39and
- 11:41how special your child is,
- 11:43not what you wish was there.
- 11:44That's the hole in the doughnut that's missing.
- 11:47What's there?
- 11:48Even
- 11:49a very assertive,
- 11:50in your face,
- 11:51intense kid.
- 11:53Has incredible potential to be a leader,
- 11:56a CEO,
- 11:57an entrepreneur,
- 11:58you know,
- 11:59a really industrious adult.
- 12:01Those are characteristics that will serve your child really well.
- 12:04It's just whether or not it's interfering with daily function.
- 12:07If it's not,
- 12:09that's the way they were made and they are meant to be that way.
- 12:12So I hope that encourages you.
- 12:13I love you all.
- 12:14We'll talk again soon.
- 12:15Bye.
- 12:15Thank you for listening to
- 12:17the Play Therapy Parenting Podcast with Dr. Brenna Hicks.
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