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  Speaker 1: The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast
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  Speaker 1: by night, all day.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for being here.
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  Speaker 1: I really appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's my pleasure.
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  Speaker 1: And thank you to Brett Weinstein, Jordan Peterson, and Elon
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  Speaker 1: Musk for helping connect us.
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  Speaker 2: We are going to see Elon on Sunday, so he's
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  Speaker 2: been an incredible support for us. So I don't know
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  Speaker 2: how you want to play. I'm totally in your hands.
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  Speaker 2: I'll follow your lead. But, I mean, he's been helping
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  Speaker 2: us because Britain's in bad shape.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why you're here. And this is what
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the rape gang– we've done– we've crowdfunded this.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Which I'm very happy to talk to you about.
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  Speaker 1: Just this title of that, Rape Gang Report.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The idea that there's actual rape gangs in the UK
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  Speaker 1: in 2026 and it's– Is it being ignored? Is it
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  Speaker 1: being downplayed? Like, how is it being received by the
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  Speaker 1: media and by the politicians over there?
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  Speaker 2: Well, the history of it is that basically, as you
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  Speaker 2: probably know, Britain, after the war, decided they were going
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  Speaker 2: to play a part in Europe, a bigger part in Europe,
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  Speaker 2: what our elite did, the British elite. And to do that,
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  Speaker 2: they had to basically diminish the power of the nation
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  Speaker 2: state and they had to head towards this European super state,
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  Speaker 2: which is the EU, the genesis of which was obviously
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  Speaker 2: a monopoly.
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  Speaker 1: Why did they have to diminish the power of the
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  Speaker 1: nation to do that?
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  Speaker 2: Because I think Britain was a proud nation state. With
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  Speaker 2: the American help, we'd won the war, and we hadn't
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  Speaker 2: been invaded or conquered, which most of Europe had been.
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  Speaker 2: So you'd had mass dislocation in Europe. Huge numbers of
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  Speaker 2: people had been dislocated and pushed all over Europe. And
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  Speaker 2: I think the socialists, I was in the European Parliament,
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  Speaker 2: so I spent a brief time as an MEP, a
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  Speaker 2: member of the European Parliament, when we finally achieved, well,
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  Speaker 2: a kind of Brexit. We can talk about that, but
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't a proper Brexit. So I think the genesis
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  Speaker 2: of the rape gangs, going back to this, was the
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  Speaker 2: fact that multiculturalism was the order of the day. They
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  Speaker 2: wanted open borders. They wanted a multicultural society. They basically
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  Speaker 2: felt the nation state had been the cause of world wars,
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  Speaker 2: effectively starting with Napoleon. Then obviously we had the Kaiser.
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  Speaker 2: Then we had Hitler. And I think they saw it
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  Speaker 2: that way, the Monets, the Spinellis, and the people who
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  Speaker 2: constructed the European Union. So to the rape gang report,
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  Speaker 2: which was your question, ultimately the genesis of that is
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  Speaker 2: this multicultural movement. invasion almost of Europe.
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  Speaker 1: Can I pause you for a second? So what you
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  Speaker 1: think is that the multicultural invasion, the way it was
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  Speaker 1: set up was on purpose and it was on purpose
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  Speaker 1: to sort of diminish the idea of nationalism?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. I think that– well, I'm– And so this was
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  Speaker 2: like a long plan.
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  Speaker 1: So this was something that they must have had to
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  Speaker 1: sit down and like who would be involved in this
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  Speaker 1: sort of a discussion where you would be willing to–
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  Speaker 1: diminish patriotism, diminish this idea that Britain by itself is
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  Speaker 1: exceptional and the people are exceptional?
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  Speaker 2: It was a long, deceitful plan. So I always say
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  Speaker 2: … Who implemented it? The European elites in league with
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  Speaker 2: our elite who effectively, if you remember in 1975, we
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  Speaker 2: joined what was called the European Economic Community. It wasn't
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  Speaker 2: effectively anything other than an economic union. But that very
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  Speaker 2: quickly changed and effectively they tried to politically integrate Europe.
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  Speaker 2: That failed and then in 1997, they tried to force
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  Speaker 2: it through with the introduction of the euro. So having
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  Speaker 2: failed politically, they tried to do it financially. That was
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  Speaker 2: my first foray into standing as a member of parliament
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  Speaker 2: to fight to save the British pound because once you
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  Speaker 2: lose your currency, effectively you lose your sovereignty and national identity.
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  Speaker 2: And our gold reserves were going to be shipped out
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  Speaker 2: to Germany, to Frankfurt. And we would have become a
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  Speaker 2: vassal state, part of the European Union. It would have
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  Speaker 2: been irreversible. But in the event, thanks to Sir James Goldsmith,
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  Speaker 2: we secured enough votes. We forced the establishment to promise
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  Speaker 2: a referendum before they surrendered to the euro. And we
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  Speaker 2: ended up saving the pound, which in the end resulted
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  Speaker 2: in the referendum in 2016, where the British people voted
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  Speaker 2: to take back their sovereignty, which ultimately I think the
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  Speaker 2: establishment always knew that the core, the body of Britain
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  Speaker 2: or body of England in particular, wanted its own accountable
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  Speaker 2: parliament in Westminster. It didn't want to be part of
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  Speaker 2: an unaccountable European socialist protectionist super state.
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  Speaker 1: So the quote unquote elites in Britain and the elites
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  Speaker 1: in the United States, it's coordinated with both of them.
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  Speaker 2: So I think less so in America, Joe. I can't
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  Speaker 2: speak for America, although when you look at what the
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  Speaker 2: Democrats did with USAID and all the stuff that was
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  Speaker 2: going on under Joe Biden, you have to wonder whether
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  Speaker 2: they began with the World Economic Forum to play a
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  Speaker 2: part in this. But I think the post-war plan for
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  Speaker 2: Europe was founded on a socialist principle, whereas I think
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  Speaker 2: America has always been a very sound– politically based structure
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  Speaker 2: based on obviously, you know, the founding fathers and your constitution,
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  Speaker 2: which I always think returns power to the individual and
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  Speaker 2: has always understood that the dangers are status dangers, not
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  Speaker 2: individual dangers. So I'm very much in the camp. I
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  Speaker 2: like the individual and a minimal state. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that's much more in your DNA than it is in
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  Speaker 2: the European DNA, which tends to be more statist. Right.
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  Speaker 1: So They did this on purpose and they brought in
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  Speaker 1: people from what country specifically?
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  Speaker 2: Well, initially you got in Britain, you got people from Africa,
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  Speaker 2: you got the Windrush generation. So you've got a lot
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  Speaker 2: of Africans came ostensibly to fill jobs that they always
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  Speaker 2: say the British people don't want to do. And it
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  Speaker 2: gathered momentum. It was relatively slow to start with. So
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  Speaker 2: you had... an influx of people coming to the UK,
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  Speaker 2: you had open borders in Europe. So one of the
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  Speaker 2: absolute embedded rules they have is this freedom of movement concept.
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  Speaker 2: So they don't have effectively national borders. But we still
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  Speaker 2: obviously had the channel, but we embraced this and we
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  Speaker 2: started this immigration. What happened is it gradually happened, and
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  Speaker 2: I think these rape gangs have been going on, or
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  Speaker 2: we know they have for 30, 40, probably 50 years,
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  Speaker 2: to a lesser extent. But when Tony Blair got in
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  Speaker 2: and he undermined a lot of constitutional sort of historical law,
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  Speaker 2: you got an acceleration of immigration from other parts of
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  Speaker 2: the world, not just from Europe, but also from other countries,
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  Speaker 2: South Asian countries in particular, who came to the UK.
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  Speaker 2: And the genesis of Of the rape gangs really is,
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  Speaker 2: I think, the cultural oil and water mix of these
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  Speaker 2: people coming from what I call clannish societies in South
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  Speaker 2: Asia and coming to very high-trust societies such as the
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  Speaker 2: one we had and the one you have here, which
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  Speaker 2: have taken thousands of years to develop. So they're high-trust
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  Speaker 2: societies where– and Lee Kuan Yew-based– Singapore on post-war Britain,
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  Speaker 2: where you had honesty boxes for newspapers in London. And
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  Speaker 2: you had a country that was completely at peace with itself.
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  Speaker 2: So it won the war. It respected peace. It respected freedom.
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  Speaker 2: And people were rebuilding their lives, having fought a Second
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  Speaker 2: World War to free Europe from sort of, in this case, Germany. Previously,
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  Speaker 2: we'd done it at Waterloo when we relieved Europe of
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  Speaker 2: the French with Napoleon. So it really accelerated after 97
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  Speaker 2: when a lot of the legislation that Tony Blair and
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  Speaker 2: his cohorts passed, such as the Human Rights Act, which
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  Speaker 2: embeds within it the ECHR. He created the Supreme Court.
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  Speaker 2: They passed laws like the Equalities Act and a raft
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  Speaker 2: of other legal acts they passed, which effectively empowered a
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  Speaker 2: multicultural society. which in some ways I think damaged the
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  Speaker 2: interests of the British people.
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  Speaker 1: And you think this is on purpose. And this is
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  Speaker 1: my point is what is the benefit for them to
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  Speaker 1: be joined up with the rest of Europe? Is it
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  Speaker 1: just purely financial? Is it a power-based strategy where if
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  Speaker 1: you can diminish the quality of life for people and
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  Speaker 1: institute more laws and put more restrictions on them, you
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  Speaker 1: can control them easier and it's– Less pushback for the politicians,
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  Speaker 1: less pushback for the people that are in charge?
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  Speaker 2: Basically, yes. I think it's the age-old battle between individualism
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  Speaker 2: and collectivism. So I think the EU is a collectivist
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  Speaker 2: construct whereas I think Britain as it was under our constitution,
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  Speaker 2: our Bill of Rights which as you probably know, our
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  Speaker 2: Bill of Rights in 1689, a lot of that was
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  Speaker 2: lifted to– by your founding fathers who embedded it within
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  Speaker 2: the US constitution. So– and that embeds freedom of speech.
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  Speaker 2: It embeds the individual. It embeds all of the rights
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  Speaker 2: that I think make the Anglo-Saxon world great. Trevor Burrus, Jr.
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  Speaker 1: So how did it deteriorate to the point where they're
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  Speaker 1: arresting 12,000 people a year for social media posts?
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  Speaker 2: Joe, it's shocking. And this is why I have got
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  Speaker 2: involved in politics. I've been involved in politics since I
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  Speaker 2: fought the Maastricht Treaty and then stood, as I said,
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  Speaker 2: in 97. I did a lot for business for Sterling,
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  Speaker 2: a lot for Vote Leave. Then I stood for the
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  Speaker 2: Brexit Party and I was elected there. So I've been
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  Speaker 2: fighting this march towards an unaccountable state which effectively rewards
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  Speaker 2: collectivism and punishes individualism to the extent that now I
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  Speaker 2: find myself at the age of 68 as an MP
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  Speaker 2: running a party called Restore Britain to try and reverse
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  Speaker 2: this tide to re-empower the individual to return to our
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  Speaker 2: original constitutions. and to protect the interests above all else
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  Speaker 2: of the British people to whom I think government should
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  Speaker 2: be accountable.
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  Speaker 1: Do they still have that kind of unchecked immigration? Is
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  Speaker 1: it currently ongoing?
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  Speaker 2: We still have illegal migrants arriving by boat. They can't
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  Speaker 2: be under the current laws and treaties that we're part of.
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  Speaker 2: They're not being deported. The judges, thanks to the creation
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  Speaker 2: of the Supreme Court, they are now a quango, a
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  Speaker 2: woke quango. I think a lot of our judiciary is corrupt.
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  Speaker 2: So the answer to your question is we still have
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  Speaker 2: illegal migration and we have people living in Britain illegally.
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  Speaker 2: We have a lot of foreign prisons in our prisons
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  Speaker 2: and we have people who've come in under various waves
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  Speaker 2: of immigration, one of which, the biggest of which was
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  Speaker 2: probably under Boris Johnson who was actually a conservative prime
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  Speaker 2: minister who allowed thousands, hundreds of thousands of people to
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  Speaker 2: come into Britain illegally. And basically they are now a
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  Speaker 2: burden to the British taxpayer. So the answer to your
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  Speaker 2: question is they're arriving illegally still. They're living here illegally
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  Speaker 2: or living in Britain illegally still. We've got foreign criminals
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  Speaker 2: in our prisons and we've still got the legacy of
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  Speaker 2: this huge amount of immigration which took place.
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  Speaker 1: And are a large percentage of these people receiving welfare
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  Speaker 1: from the British government?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. What percentage?
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Well, most of the people who arrive, they're all supported.
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  Speaker 2: I mean they're put in hotels. So immediately, as soon
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  Speaker 2: as you get there? In parliament, I see the contracts.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks to my parliamentary questions, I'm allowed to ask questions
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  Speaker 2: and scrutinize the contracts for, for instance, the Bibi Stockholm.
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  Speaker 2: It was a boat which cost the British taxpayer one
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  Speaker 2: and a half billion pounds. It's actually now lying redundant
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  Speaker 2: and not being used. But I've seen the contracts for
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  Speaker 2: these illegal migrants in terms of the laundry services they get,
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  Speaker 2: in terms of the taxi services they get, in terms
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  Speaker 2: of the food they require. I mean, literally, it is
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  Speaker 2: like staying in a very comfortable hotel. And we've now
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  Speaker 2: got these people being settled all across our country.
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  Speaker 1: How many?
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  Speaker 2: In hotels. Well, I don't think the government knows, Joe,
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  Speaker 2: to answer your question. I don't think they know how
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  Speaker 2: many people are living in Britain illegally.
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  Speaker 1: Was the similar situation that America had over the last
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  Speaker 1: four years where on the low number, they think it
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  Speaker 1: was 10 million people came in, which is insane. It's
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  Speaker 1: an insane amount of people to come in in four years.
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  Speaker 2: We think there's enough work to do initially to detain
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  Speaker 2: and deport people who are arriving illegally. I mean, to
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  Speaker 2: my mind, illegal means illegal. So it's fairly straightforward. To
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  Speaker 2: the people who are arriving illegally, people living here illegally,
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  Speaker 2: the foreign criminal's There's plenty of work to do to
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  Speaker 2: remove them from Britain. And then I think we need
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  Speaker 2: to turn our attention, and that's in our mass deportation document.
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  Speaker 2: I've given you a copy of that, which effectively sets
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  Speaker 2: out the constitutional reasons why we have a problem, how
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  Speaker 2: we correct those constitutional issues, and how we then practically
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  Speaker 2: detain and deport the people who aren't supposed to be here.
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  Speaker 2: And once we've done that, we will then turn our
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  Speaker 2: attention to people who are living in Britain, to your point,
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  Speaker 2: who are on welfare, who are going to cost the
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  Speaker 2: taxpayer a fortune for the rest of their lives probably,
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  Speaker 2: who aren't working, who are culturally different to us, who
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  Speaker 2: have a different view of their religion to the Christian
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  Speaker 2: religion and are increasingly living in small groups of people
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  Speaker 2: who haven't integrated, who are living under Sharia law and
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  Speaker 2: who have their own courts.
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  Speaker 1: They have their own court.
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  Speaker 2: They have their own Sharia courts, yes. A parallel legal system.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. So it's unrecognized by the British government, parallel legal
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  Speaker 1: system that exists inside of England.
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  Speaker 2: It's tolerated. Tolerated.
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  Speaker 1: So they're aware of it.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And they're aware of the punishments that this court dishes out?
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  Speaker 2: It's rather like they're policing their own people under their
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  Speaker 2: own laws. And they're just allowing that? They're allowing that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Whoa. Now, I believe, I don't know about you, but
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  Speaker 2: I believe if you come to our country, you should
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  Speaker 2: live under our laws.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah. I mean, the idea of Well, the United
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  Speaker 1: States in particular is a melting pot and people come
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  Speaker 1: from all over the place and it's one of the
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  Speaker 1: cool things. There's all these different cultures. But there are
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  Speaker 1: certain cultures that if you allow them to come into
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  Speaker 1: your community and then they institute the laws of the
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  Speaker 1: country where they came from, you're going to have a
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  Speaker 1: real problem. Like they don't live the way you live.
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  Speaker 1: They don't have the same respect for women that you have.
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  Speaker 1: They don't treat them the same way. They don't allow dogs.
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  Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of like– Stuff that a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people might not even be aware that come with
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  Speaker 1: that problem. It's like the idea is supposed to be
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  Speaker 1: that Western society is inclusive and progressive because we're intelligent
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  Speaker 1: and educated and we care. But you can care so
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  Speaker 1: much that you let in criminals and then you give
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  Speaker 1: those criminals all your money and then the criminals can
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  Speaker 1: take over your country slowly but surely. And this is
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  Speaker 1: the– no one thinks that's a possible thing. People look
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  Speaker 1: at the Colosseum. You look at ancient Greece and they think, wow,
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  Speaker 1: I wonder what happened to those guys.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think happened?
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  Speaker 1: Probably the same shit that's happening right now to England,
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  Speaker 1: the same shit that could have happened to America. It's–
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  Speaker 1: civilizations fall apart for various reasons and one great way
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  Speaker 1: to get them to fall apart is to bring in
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of people and they don't have to follow
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  Speaker 1: your laws and they bring the laws of wherever they're from,
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  Speaker 1: whatever– fundamentalist religion country they're from where they have a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of crazy laws that are kind of archaic.
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  Speaker 2: Well, this is Sharia law, Islamic law, as you probably know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, again, to your point, I think the best
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  Speaker 2: example I can give people of what happens if you
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  Speaker 2: do that is when Lebanon got its independence in 1948,
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  Speaker 2: they were a Christian country and they were a very
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  Speaker 2: confident country. They were a They had the best universities.
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  Speaker 2: They had a very open society. I never went to Beirut.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you went to Beirut, but Beirut
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  Speaker 2: in the 60s was meant to be the best place
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  Speaker 2: on earth to be. Great wine, freedom, very enlightened. It
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  Speaker 2: was great. Lots of people were there. The minute that
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  Speaker 2: the Muslim population went over about 15%, you started to
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  Speaker 2: get a problem. civil war. You've got the Druze and
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  Speaker 2: Maronite Christians in a civil war with the Muslims. And
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  Speaker 2: now Lebanon is a Muslim country. And Hezbollah, backed by Iran,
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  Speaker 2: is effectively running the show. So to your point, I
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  Speaker 2: couldn't agree more. And the rape gang report, which we've written,
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  Speaker 2: was crowdfunded by 20,000 concerned English people who we raised
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  Speaker 2: Not a huge amount of money. We raised about £ 600, 000
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  Speaker 2: in varying quantities people gave. And we did it because
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  Speaker 2: the government will not have a statutory inquiry. So our government,
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  Speaker 2: and particularly the Labour Party, have been presiding over this
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  Speaker 2: because it goes to the Muslim bloc vote. So we
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  Speaker 2: have in the UK a system of postal voting. And
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  Speaker 2: in a lot of the inner cities and the places
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  Speaker 2: where these Islamic populations live, they are or have historically
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  Speaker 2: voted Labour. That's beginning to change. They're beginning to vote
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  Speaker 2: for Muslim independence now. And I sit with some of
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  Speaker 2: them at the back of Parliament. So effectively, this inquiry
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  Speaker 2: we did, we set out with a completely unbiased view
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  Speaker 2: of what we would find. And we did it because
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: we were pushing the government to have a statutory inquiry.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: And a lot of The reason I got involved in
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: it was I think it was Elon Musk who triggered it.
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  Speaker 2: He talked about it because a lot of people in
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: the UK, I don't think, know the extent to which
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: this has been happening and the length of time it's
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  Speaker 2: been happening for.
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  Speaker 1: Go to OnXMaps.com slash Joe Rogan. Why is that? Is
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: that a failure of your media? Is it a failure
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: of the politicians? Why don't people know about this?
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: It's a total failure of the media because the media
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: are supposed to be an independent body that holds to
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: account failures of the state. And it's basically because this
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: block vote through the postal voting system, which needs to
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: be changed, is effectively or has been keeping the Labour
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Party in power. So they've put power ahead of principle.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: And in the report, we cover this. We've covered the
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: reasons why it's so serious. And to your point, we
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: even cover, as you quite rightly say, the fact that
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Dogs are not liked by the Islamic faith, largely because
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Mohammed liked cats. He didn't like dogs. And what we
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: wanted to do was interview victims, which we did. We
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: did it properly. It took us over a year. We
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: had a rape gang victim, Sammy Woodhouse, who led it.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: She's got a child by her rapist. And we had
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: a team of people. And we literally produced the witness bundles.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: and we listened to the witnesses, and then we had
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: a two-week hearing in London where people gave evidence, and
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: we had a proper barrister who effectively presided over it
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: and then helped us write the report. It's effectively Graham Smith,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: the barrister, did a fantastic job. And we didn't start
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: out with any preconceived ideas. It started because we read
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: some court transcripts of some of the people who've been
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: found guilty of this, which the government, by the way,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: has tried to keep quiet. Some of the historical court
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: transcripts disappear. So we've been calling for these transcripts to
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: be kept now. We've actually tried to make a noise
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: about that. And the more we read this and the
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: more we carried on with the rape gang inquiry, the
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: more it became clear to us that obviously there's a
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: link between this power and and the abuse and grooming and,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: if you like, damage that was done to white working-class
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: English girls. And it does go, and in the report
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: we've looked at the reasons why, to your point, there
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: is a cultural difference of opinion between an open, high-trust
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Christian view of women particularly and the Islamic view of women,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: which is all in the report. So, for instance, as
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: you probably know, if a woman... accuses somebody of rape.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: And a lot of these Muslims come from Pakistan, Joe.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: They're predominantly Pakistan, and they're predominantly from one part of
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Pakistan called Mirpur. There are some from Bangladesh. There are
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: some from Somalia. There are some from Eritrea. There are
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: other Muslim countries that perpetrate some of this. And of course,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: there are white people who perpetrate rape as well, but
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: nothing on the scale of this. This is quite horrific.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: And our reporters effectively uncovered this. I think we've played
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: a part with this report in the government saying that
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: they're going to have now a statutory inquiry because we
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: didn't have any statutory powers to be able to force
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: people to appear at our hearing. They all appeared voluntarily.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: The government can actually force people legally to appear. They
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: can actually make it a legal requirement that people attend.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: We couldn't do that. But There had been reports in
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: the past. There was the J report in 2014. And
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: there's been the Casey report, all of which confirmed that
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: this was happening. And the state still continued to try
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: and pretend it was just happening in a small number
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: of siloed areas where you obviously had a high Islamic population.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: The state has equally failed to collect data on the
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: crimes that are perpetrated, so the ethnicity of the people
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: who are perpetrating the crimes. And from there, you can
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: extrapolate once you've got the data as to whether or
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: not you've got an extraordinary problem in one particular section
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: of society. And again, using my parliamentary questions, I've been
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: forcing as much disclosure as I can get. And this
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: is how we've discovered that a lot of the data
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: that should be being collected by the police particularly, by
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: the National Health Service, by social services, a lot of
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: the data has not been properly collected properly. possibly because
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: the state does, I think, know that this is happening,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: but they don't want to admit that their multicultural experiment, which,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: as you probably know, famously, Enoch Powell warned would fail
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: with his speech, the Rivers of Blood speech, for which
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: he was heavily criticized. So I think they do know,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: but they don't want to admit it. They don't want
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: to be called racist. They don't want to, and this
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: has permeated the whole of, Since Tony Blair, people are
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: frightened to be accused of effectively being biased and white.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: And we're taught about things. I don't know whether you
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: have it here, unconscious bias and all of the other
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: sort of what I call woke, DEI-driven rubbish, which has
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: permeated Britain in the same way. I think it may
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: have originally come from you guys, but it's certainly had
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: a huge effect on us.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I think it had a great grip on us for
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: a few years and it's lessened its hold.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Well, thanks to the Donald.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that helped a lot. And I think a
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: big part of it was Elon buying Twitter where you
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: got legitimate free speech, which is, again, back to this 12,000
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: people getting arrested each year for social media posts recently.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: How is that tolerated? I just don't understand how people
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: aren't– I was about to say up in arms, but
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: that's also part of the problem is that No one's
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: armed over there.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Well, I have actually got some guns, Joseph, because I
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: have a farm. So when you come to the UK,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: I hope you'll come and shoot some pheasants with me.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: But if you don't have a farm? Well, if you
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: don't have a farm, you'll find it very difficult to
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: get a gun of any kind. And even if you
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: have a farm. So Reform tried to politically assassinate me
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: in 25, early 25, and made false accusations about me
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: threatening to hit one of the Zia Youssef in a meeting.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: And somebody was saying, I went around Parliament saying I
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: was a very good shot and I was going to
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: shoot Zia Youssef. I mean, if you believe that, I've
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: got a completely clean record. I employ lots of people.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I have lots of businesses and I've never had an issue.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: But listen, four armed police turned up, took all my
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: guns away. I mean, and I'm a member of Parliament.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: I said to them, guys, you could have just called
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: me up and we could have talked about it. But no,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: they turned up.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Just from an accusation.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: 9.30 at night. left at quarter to 12. We got
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: them on the cameras. Took all my guns, all my ammo,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: and it took me five or six months to get
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: them all back. But look, so they don't want the
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: public to have guns, and they are doing their very
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: best to damage the shooters who perfectly legitimately like to
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: go and shoot clay pigeons, who like to go and
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: shoot game, who like to go and hunt. effectively, they're
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: trying to make that very difficult through the licensing laws
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: for guns. As you probably know, they banned handguns.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: The 90s, right?
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: In the late 90s, because there was a murder up
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: in Dunblane.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: One murder.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: One murder. So everybody, my father used to shoot pistols
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: for Oxford University and he had, he's dead now, bless him,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: but he had, all his pistols were taken away. The gun,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: the pistols he used to shoot with at Oxford University.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, we now have a which needs radical change,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: and we need to release the individual. And to your
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: point on social media posts, there was a lovely lady,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Lucy Connolly, who was locked up for something, for 32 months,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: for just a very emotional social media post, which she
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: deleted after four hours, about the Southport killings, where this chap,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Axel Rudiker-Barner, went and knifed three young girls and killed
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: them despite the fact that the British state through Prevent
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: was aware of this and we've had a similar case
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: recently with Henry Novak where again it was actually I
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: think on this occasion a Sikh stabbed him and the
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: police despite the fact when they arrived at the scene
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: he told them he'd been stabbed the police didn't believe
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: him and they tried to handcuff him and as a
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: result of that It's arguable that they opened up the wound,
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: the stab wound, and he drowned in his own blood. Meanwhile,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: his murderer was never handcuffed. So this is where the
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: British state's gone completely wrong. So instead of one law
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: for everybody and one policing for everybody, this sort of
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: view that the white population is racist, which I don't
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: personally believe them to be, I think Britain is racist.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: is a very tolerant country. Trevor Burrus, Jr.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Do you think that this perspective that society sort of
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: adopted in the UK about white people being bad, do
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: you think this was– there was architecture to it? This
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: was by design that this was done or is this
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: just a natural response to people being called racist? Because
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: of course in the past there was more racism than
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: there is today and people always want to point to
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: that racism as evidence of colonialism, evidence of whatever it
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: is that happened in days past. But why in England
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: do you think that narrative took hold so well?
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Because I think, Joe, to your point, that this post-war
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: plan for multiculturalism, I think they realized that they've got
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: a problem.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: So part of it was probably infiltrating the universities and
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: promoting these kind of ideas.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: It's almost as if with the World Economic Forum, there's
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: this view that the Anglo-Saxon nations have commanded and dominated
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: too much of the world's resources. And there's almost like
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: this misguided altruistic view that we should become more concerned
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: with global welfare rather than the welfare of our own citizens,
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: which I totally disagree with.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Well, there's also the you will own nothing and you
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: will be happy.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: This is your Klaus Schwab. Which is hilarious.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Someone would even say that out loud.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: You own nothing and you will be happy. Like, is
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: this a part of an Orwell book? Because this doesn't
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: seem like a real person would say something like that
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: because who the fuck is going to listen to that?
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Well, George Orwell has been rather accurate in some of
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: his predictions. He's dead on.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: He's actually pretty optimistic. Like his version of the world
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: was a little bit more palatable than what we're dealing
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: with right now.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Interesting man, old Etonian, fought in the Spanish Civil War.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: I mean he was a– A very quirky Englishman who
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: clearly had a hugely prescient foresight. And I think probably
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: like– certainly like me, he had a healthy disrespect for
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: what I call collectivist statism. And he was very much
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: an individual and a believer in the individual.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: It's really interesting because when I first read that book,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: I was in high school. And I kept thinking like
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: what a crazy person. This would never happen. This is
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: not even possible. But what a crazy world this guy
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: has created in his imagination of things going completely haywire.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: And then you realize as time goes on, oh, that's
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: totally possible. It's totally possible that things can get that ridiculous.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I mean when you're dealing with male– biologically male athletes
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: that compete against women because they identify as women and
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: use women's locker rooms. All the craziness that we deal
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: with today, the open border situation. No one is illegal
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: on stolen land. Hey, fuck off. Like what are we doing?
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Like what is this?
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Well, it's almost as if we're subverting all the things
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: that made us great.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's nothing wrong with immigration. But it's probably
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: a good idea to make sure someone is on a
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: fucking murder before you let them in. Like the idea
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: that there should be no border at all is like,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: If the world was perfect, that sounds wonderful. If the
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: world was perfect, everybody paid their taxes and everybody followed
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: the laws, why have borders? Clearly, it's not perfect. Go
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: to Pakistan. Go to Karachi. Go hang out. Go down
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: the street as a woman in a miniskirt and see
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: how that works out.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Go to some places in the world. This is– you're
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: quite right. This is– I mean Pakistan is I think–
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: It's a wild place. It's an example of a rogue
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: state basically and– I think their view of, as you say,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: women who dress in ways other than the ways of Sharia, i.e.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: totally covered.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: And again, it's all in various of the Hadiths, which
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: we quote in the Rape Gang Report. They are considered
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: to be meat. And this is something I've never understood.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: How do you square this circle of this sort of clannish,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: backward-looking culture which comes to a highly open, high trust
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: society and then embeds itself within that society and undermines
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: everything that we've achieved over a thousand years. Trevor Burrus, Jr.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Acknowledging that is somehow or another racist. Acknowledging that some
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: cultures are superior is somehow or another racist. But just
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: understanding human rights, understanding the rights of individuals to be free,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: to not be subjected to other people's archaic laws. And
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: this is– look, a lot of cultures in this world
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: live as people lived thousands of years ago. No one
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: in the United States wants to live as people lived
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: thousands of years ago.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: No one. And this is not a racist thing.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Like you should be able to come over here and
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: practice whatever religion you want. But if your religion has
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: rules that violate the laws that we've all agreed are
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: just and fair, then you're not integrating. And if you
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: take over a whole town– And now that town is
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: subject to these archaic laws. We've got a problem. And
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: if you let that problem get bigger and bigger, they
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: take over the country. And that's an actual possibility for
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: certain countries. And we have to recognize that civilization is
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: not as sturdy as we like to think it is.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: It's kind of flimsy in a lot of ways. A
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: few bad things can happen and things can go sideways
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: quite quickly.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Well, I think liberty is very fragile, isn't it? Ultimately,
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: if you don't protect liberty, you lose it. It was
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Margaret Thatcher who was very strong on this. And you
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: have to have laws to protect liberty. But what you
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: also have to have is everyone should be equal under
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: the law.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: And to your point, I couldn't agree more. I mean,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Britain used to be a very tolerant society. So, for instance,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Europe was very anti-Semitic. Britain was never anti-Semitic. We used
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: to welcome a lot of Jews and Protestants from Europe
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: who were being persecuted. particularly in France with the Protestants.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: So we were a very tolerant society, but the people
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: who came integrated and they contributed. And that is the essence,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: I think, of sensible immigration. So it should be limited, targeted,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: and it should be only people who accept your religion
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: and your culture and your laws.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: But what do you do, though, if someone comes over
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: here and then they're not violating laws, they're not violating
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: any laws, they achieve citizenship, But then they start bringing
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: over more and more people and then start instituting Sharia law.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: What do you do? Do you deport them all?
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Like how do you– like this idea of having all
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: these people recognizing how many people got in illegally, deporting them,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: mass deportations, deporting criminals. It all sounds great until you
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: talk about actually implementing it. Like how do you do that?
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: How are you doing that? Are you going to knock
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: on people's doors and pull them out of their homes
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: and ship them back to where they came from? How
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: do you do that?
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: I think the first thing you do is you stop
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: them coming across the channel. They shouldn't be coming anywhere
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: under international law because they're traveling across safe countries. So
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: they shouldn't be coming.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: What's the estimate of the amount of illegal immigration that
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: you have in Britain?
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: It's almost impossible to say how many people are living
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: there illegally or living with us illegally. But in our paper,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, we think it's sort of 1.8 to 2
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: million people probably. That's our estimate. But people arriving, we
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: know how many are arriving. There's a lot arriving every day,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: particularly when the sea is calm.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: How many arrive every day?
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: They're coming. It can vary. I mean, you can get 1,000
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: in a day. If the sea is rough, you get
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: none because obviously they suffer if they try and cross
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: in little overcrowded dinghies that they can't get across. But
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: we're paying the French over half a billion pounds a
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: year to try and stop it. That, I think, is
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: not happening. And as a result of that, you know,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: our border patrol picks them up, gives them bottles of water,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: brings them in and settles them in hotels and pays
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: them welfare. They become and then they apply for residency
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: and they say they're asylum seekers. I argue most of
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: them are economic migrants. But, you know, our woke culture
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: is not protecting the interests of the British people.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: And it's also a massive incentive. If you live in
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: a terribly poor country and you can just get to
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: England and then instantaneously you will get money and housing.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Why would you not do that?
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Well, not only that, you go to the top of
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: the waiting list for dental treatment, which British people don't get.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: The NHS go to the top of the waiting list.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute. They get access to dental treatment that
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: the British people don't get?
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Why? Why do immigrants get access to it?
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: This, Joe, is the mystery of what our I don't
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: know what they think they're doing, but they have this
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: misguided view that these people are actually they call them
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: asylum seekers. They say they need to be looked after
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: and protected. They're not. They're economic migrants. And to your point,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: if they know there's welfare when they reach Britain, they'll
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: travel across multiple safe countries to get to the welfare,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: the free housing. Yeah, of course. And all the other stuff.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: So and then. Unless you deal with issues like the
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: rape gangs and you force them to adhere to UK
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: law and respect our laws, our culture and our religion,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: they gradually set up their own cultures and their own laws,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: as I said. And there are large tracts of the
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: country now where we've got these Islamic settlements which effectively
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: operate almost as a sort of parallel society. I don't
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: know whether it's quite the same here, whether you've got
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: the similar thing with the Somalis in Minnesota. You do in.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Dearborn, Michigan. Dearborn, Michigan just had a gigantic Islamic parade
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: where you just see tens of thousands of people holding
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: flags and walking on the street. It's kind of crazy.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: And they've also– one of the things that's funny about
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Dearborn is all the progressives, it's a very liberal place.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: They're like, welcome, welcome. Everyone is welcome for all cultures.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: And as soon as they got into power, they banned
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: the pride flag. That was the first thing they did.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm afraid they have quite strong views on that
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: sort of thing. Oh, yeah.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: That's why queers for Palestine is always hilarious. And then
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: you see the meme Palestine for queers and it's throwing
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: people off roofs.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: It's like the chap who runs our Green Party is
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: a gay Jew. So, I mean, again, he's going to
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: have a problem if these guys get anywhere near power. Yeah.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: That doesn't seem to put the progressives off. They still
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: seem to be– But.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: This is what's crazy is that their society is complete–
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: like Islamic society is completely patriarchal. The women are absolutely
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: second-class citizens. They have completely different laws for how the
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: women can dress, what happens to the woman if someone
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: has sex with– if someone has– first of all, if
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: they commit adultery, they could be killed.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Stoned. Stoned to death.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I– I don't know. I watched a horrible
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: video where a father did it to his daughter.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, you do get these killings.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Honor killings.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Honor killings, yeah. Or brothers.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: The brother will kill the daughter if the daughter shamed
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: the family. It's like, hey, guys, how are you progressive
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: when you're supporting this? And it's because the concept of
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: not being racist, not being called racist, the fear of
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: that is so strong. They're willing to adopt all sorts
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: of things that are the complete antithesis of everything they
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: believe in.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Well, in the UK, I don't know if you have
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: it here, but the Me Too movement, it fascinates me
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: that they never seem to say anything about these what
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: I call clannish tribal cultures who have a completely different
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: view of women. And to your point, again, in our report,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: a woman, if she accuses in Pakistan a man of rape,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: she has to have four male witnesses who actually have
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: to witness and swear that they've seen her being penetrated
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: by the rapist. And you've actually got women in prison
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: because if she can't prove that she's been raped under
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: those rules, then she can be sent to prison. And
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: there are many women languishing in Pakistani prisons for that
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: very reason. And this is the sort of extraordinary cultural
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: oil and water, which just doesn't mix.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Well, it's also the mental gymnastics that you have to
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: have to accept that as a part of Britain. And
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: because you're progressive is really crazy. It just shows how
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: these ideologies, these cult-like ideologies can completely defy logic, completely
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: defy common sense and just You have a set of
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: rules that you're supposed to adhere to. If you deviate
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: from those rules, you're a racist. You don't want to
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: be a racist, right? Then everyone's welcome.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: As you say, it's honor killings. It's tribal. Your first
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: loyalty is to your tribe and your family, not your
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: host country who's actually got their own laws. There are
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: all sorts of Hadith rulings which they can they can
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: use to justify it. I mean, for instance, if they
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: rape a white girl, that doesn't count in their view
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: of life as adultery. So they are effectively taught that
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: a girl who doesn't dress as they would dress is
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: meet to be abused. And They have these extraordinary sort
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: of cultural views that are completely incompatible, in my view,
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: with a society like ours where we are a matriarchal
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: society which respects women. I think we have grown to
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: respect women. Obviously, they've now got an omnipotent position within
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: our society. Certainly in the UK, I'm sure it's true
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: here too and quite right. They play a part in
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: our society. They're a very, very important part of everything.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: But again, under the Islamic code, I think that the
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Muslims are frightened of female sexuality. It's all there. And
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: as you know, you get FGM, female genital mutilation. So
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: these cultures, I think, Joe, and to your point, are
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: just incompatible unless you have a very strong government which
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: basically protects women. its electorate from any subversive behavior which
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: is not compatible with our values.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: You keep using the term meat. Is that how they
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: actually refer to it?
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: That's how they consider it.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: What do they say?
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: It's in our report. There was actually, I think it was...
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Is it a translation? I think Thomas Jefferson actually, it's
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: in our report, asked the Barbary pirates about the way
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: in which they treated their their slaves and their women.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: That was particularly slave. They just also slavery is accepted
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: within Islamic countries. So I think they have their own codes.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: They have their own terms of reference. And there is
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: a quote in there. I'd have to look at the
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: report to give it to you. But where one of
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: them does liken white girls not dressing as Muslim girls
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: dress And he does liken it to meat. Jesus. And,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: you know, that is an analogy he used. So, I mean, yeah,
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: I think that's what they think.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: So this rape gang inquiry report that you have just released,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: the number, I want you to say it because it
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: sounds so crazy. If I say it, people, it's going
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: to sound wrong. The number of people that were victims,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: the estimate.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Well, we've estimated that a minimum of a quarter of
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: a million rapes have taken place. It's probably much, much more, Joe. Much,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: much more. Because we published in here, I think it's
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: a list of 147 parts of the UK where this
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: is happening. Now, the government tries to tell you it's
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: happening in Rochdale, Oldham, you know, one or two, Bradford,
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: one or two centers. And that's why their statutory inquiry,
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: the terms of reference of that have now been downgraded.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: So they make it look as if it's not a
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: systemic problem, but just a little local problem, which it isn't.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: So we've listed here, and they're all in here, the
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: places where we know it's happening from our rape gang inquiry.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: But every time we publish this, Joe, I get people
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: emailing us or sending us messages on social media to say,
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: what about Red Ruth in Cornwall? What about it's happening here?
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: It's happening here. It's happening here. So I think it's
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: incredibly widespread. And there's other people who've corroborated that quarter
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: of a million figure. That's an incredibly conservative figure. You
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: can't be exact because the state is not collecting the data,
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: which it should be doing. And we've been lobbying in
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: parliament to make sure that the state's collection of the
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: data improves. And then we can actually see the extent
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: of the problem. And you can actually pinpoint it in
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: the same way that we've done it in this report.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: So this is– I think it's linked to organized crime.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: I think it's linked to the drug trade. I'm pretty
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: sure it's linked to drug trade. And obviously it's linked
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: to prostitution. So as usual with an evil like this
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: and you've got girls who are transported around in the
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: back of pickups and in cages and– at our rape
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: gang inquiry, we had examples of girls who were raped
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: by dogs and filmed, either anally raped or vaginally raped,
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: and literally watched, filmed. And a lot of it's about
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: servitude and about, you know, there's other stories in here
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: about women having to lick the face, the feet of
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: their rapists. It's about power. It's about servitude. And it's
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: about the fact that Muslim men are taught to believe
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: that they are superior, not only to women, but they're
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: superior to people like yourself and myself who are considered
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: to be, if you like, the infidels. And their job
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: is to effectively spread Islam and effectively punish the infidel.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: And as you probably know, in the Crusades, If you
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: lost to Saladin and you were a knight's templar, a crusader,
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: you had two choices. You either converted to Islam or
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: they killed you. And in the case of a lot
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: of these girls, a lot of them were made pregnant.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: They were impregnated and they then had to convert to Islam.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Some of them were trafficked to Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, other
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: parts of the world. So, look, I mean, this is
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: a massive national scandal. And I'm hoping now I'm an MP.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: We've written this report. And this should stimulate debate. We've
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: sent a copy of this on a PDF to every MP.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: And we're going to send this printed copy to all
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: of them as well. Because everybody in power should look.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: at this and they should start to correct it immediately.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: You use the term– the term is used, rape gang.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Why are you saying gang? And this is an organized practice?
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: It's not as simple as Islamic men are raping poor
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: white girls. It's that they go out in gangs specifically
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: for this purpose.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: These are properly organized gangs who are grooming and abusing
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: young girls as young as 10 or 11 and then
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: literally trafficking them around the country. We know that from
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: the testimonies we've had. So originally when I went into parliament,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: I was elected late. So I was elected in July 24th.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: So at the tender age of 67. So we heard
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: them being referred to as Asian grooming gangs, which I
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: think is a misnomer because it's unfair on, for instance,
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: the Japanese or other Asian cultures who don't do this.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: So when we thanks to Elon Musk, we actually did.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: And as you're quite right, thanks to him giving us
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: a free speech platform. And Facebook's thankfully followed as well.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: So he's led the charge through his purchase of what
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: was Twitter. So when I got into, I gave a
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: speech in parliament where I didn't, I said, they're not
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: Asian grooming gangs. I'm going to call them what they are.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: They're Pakistani Muslim rape gangs. So I said this in parliament.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: So Jamie will be able to drag it up if
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: he goes on to the... Because everything goes into Hansard.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: And I gave this speech and it caused shock in
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: the House of Commons. Now, look, I'm not the smartest
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: kid on the block, but what I do in Parliament
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: is I tell the truth. So, you know, I'm only
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: interested in telling the truth and getting to the truth
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: and changing the way in which we govern. That's what
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: I've gone into Parliament for. I haven't gone into this...
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: I give my parliamentary salary to charity. I'm a reasonably successful...
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: person who's lived his life. I've been chairman of a
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: football club. I don't know if you're interested in Premier
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: League football, but I was chairman of Southampton. So I
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: built the stadium for Southampton. I used to play competitive hockey.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: And I built up the youth academy at Southampton. I loved,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: the best day of my life was when we got
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: to the cup final in 2003. We lost 1-0 to Arsenal,
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: but it was the most amazing experience for everybody. So look,
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: I'm not doing this because I want necessarily to be
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: doing it. I'm doing it because somebody's got to do it.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: And if we're going to change Britain, we've got to
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: get the public to buy into what we're doing. And
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: as I say, I'm not a classic politician. I'm not
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: saying you've got to vote for me. I'm saying that
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: we've got to change Britain by 29 or I think
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: the country, from what I can see, is in terminal decline.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: So I sit on the Public Accounts Committee. I see
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: the waste. I see the unaccountability. I see the way
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: in which the civil service does not serve the people
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: which it's supposed to serve. I see... our debt rising
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: to nearly 100% of GDP. I see massive misallocation of
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: procurement on our weapons. I see fraud in the judiciary.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: I see all the things that.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Sounds like you're talking about America.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm talking about Britain. It seems like it's a
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: widespread problem. Well, I actually think America under Joe Biden
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: probably was as bad as that. And if you look
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: at what Elon and the boys uncovered with USAID and
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: all of the misallocation of taxpayer funds all over the world.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: A lot of it to England. Some of it came
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: to woke causes in England. So look, whoever the architects
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: of this are, whether it's the World Economic Forum, whoever
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: they are, whether it's the Bilderbergers, whether it's the Council
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: on Foreign Relations, whether it's whatever malign influence is trying
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: to do this, we have to collectively try and reverse it.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: So I'm I'm saying to people, if you want, I
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: will do my damnedest to reverse it. I've run multiple businesses.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: I was in the city of London for 20 years,
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: so I know about finance. And I will commit to
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: doing whatever I can to reverse this for the British people.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: But they've got to buy into it, Joe. They've got
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: to buy into it.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Are there people that are in denial that this is happening,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: that this rape gang problem is real?
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, without a shadow of a doubt.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: What do they say?
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Well, Labour just... tries to look the other way.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: But when confronted, when confronted by the numbers, what is
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: their response?
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Well, we've been demanding a statutory inquiry. And in the end,
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: we crowdfunded this. Right. What is their response to that? Well,
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: their response to this has been pretty muted, to be frank.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, the BBC haven't covered it at all.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: A national monopolistic broadcaster paid for by a compulsory fee
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: have not covered this as a matter of public interest,
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: nor of Sky. nor properly of the Daily Telegraph. GB
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: News have covered a tiny, Patrick Christus covered one evening
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: of it. Now, this is a massive national scandal that
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: deserves a complete and utter airing.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: How does the BBC justify not discussing this?
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: Well, the BBC is part of our problem, Joe. So
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: to your point about, you know, the Democrats, the BBC
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: is a deeply malign organization. So it was set up
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: to inform, educate, and entertain. And it was set up
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: by a man called Reith. And Reith was a highly
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: principled man. And I think at the time it was
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: set up in the 20s, it probably did have a role.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: But in the digital age where most of the young
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: people no longer watch their news on the BBC, they
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: get their news from whatever their favorite news channel is,
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: whether it's Breitbart, whoever they go and get it from,
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: they get it from somewhere else. But if you want
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: to watch sport or you want to basically have your TV,
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: you have to pay the TV license.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: There's still a problem that I'm sure exists in England
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: just as it exists in America. There's a certain subset
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: of our society, a large percentage of our society, particularly
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: older people, that things are not legitimate unless they're discussed
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: in corporate media and that if it's not in The
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: New York Times, if it's not on CNN, if it's
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: not fill in the blank, then it can't be completely legitimate.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: It has to be a fringe thing. It has to
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: be a conspiracy thing. They still need these sort of
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: legacy establishments to give them the news because that has
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: been the way they grew up. That has been how
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: they were trained. And in their mind, they don't understand
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: the internet completely. They don't go on Twitter. And so
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: all that stuff to them is just– it's just too fringe.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: So that's always going to be a problem. And if
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: someone like the BBC doesn't cover this stuff, it– For
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: a lot of people that are woefully ignorant, they can
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: still kind of claim that ignorance and dismiss it because
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: the BBC isn't covering it.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: That's exactly right. I mean that's a very good summary
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: because the BBC historically was totally trusted and their news
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: bulletins were designed, as I say, to be impartial completely.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: And being a public sector broadcaster, their job was to
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: cover matters like this and create debate. But as we know,
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: monopolies go bad. I mean monopolies in my view are
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: generally a bad thing, particularly in the digital age where
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: thanks to Elon Musk and what he did with X,
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: I think he has released free speech. I think he
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: has returned some sort of semblance of people's ability to
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: be able to force debate without being bullied by a
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: monopoly like the BBC. So if I ever get near power,
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: I will responsibly defund the BBC as one of the
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: first things I do. I think the BBC is dripping
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: poison into the veins of Britain every day.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: What other examples of what the BBC is doing do
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: you think is dripping poison?
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: Well, I think a lot of their coverage is not objective.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: It's woke. I mean they're into all this DEI. They're
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: into obviously the LGBTQ +. They're into all of the–
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: All of the things which I think, as we said earlier,
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: probably came from this Democrat period. But it's been happening
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: for a long time. I think if you look at
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: the Labour Party, again, I don't know if you've ever
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: heard of the Fabian Society. So the Fabian Society was
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: set up in the 1880s. And it was basically most
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: of the Labour front bench and most of the Labour
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: Party are members of the Fabian Society. So the Fabian Society,
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: George Bernard Shaw was a member of the Fabian Society.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: You'll have heard of George Bernard Shaw. So it's the
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: most extraordinary organization. Their emblem is a wolf in sheep's clothing.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: As if that doesn't tell you what they're doing. That's
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: their emblem?
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: Can I see what that looks like?
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: That's their emblem. It's a wolf in sheep's clothing.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Fabian Society?
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: The Fabian Society.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: I need to see that.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: You should have a look at that. I might have
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: to get a T-shirt. And should I tell you what
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: else they were?
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: I need a T-shirt.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: Should I tell you what else they were? They were
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: eugenicists originally.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: Whoa.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: Yes. When?
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: How far back?
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: George Bernard Shaw.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Look at that. That is damn crazy.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: Well, everyone should look at the Fabian Society because that
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: runs deep through the veins of labor.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: That is damn crazy.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: What do you think of that?
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: That is damn crazy. So, ladies and gentlemen, if you're
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: just listening to this, this Fabian Society coat of arms
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: is really a black wolf that has... a sheep's body
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: strapped on top of its back. And it's like covering
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: its– this is insane. That's crazy. What a complete disdain
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: for anybody else's intelligence. Like they're not even trying to
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: hide it.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: They're just like– They're all members. The front bench are
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: all members of the Fabian Society. That coat of arms
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: is– Keir Starmer is also a member of– I need
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: a T-shirt, Jamie. Please order it. You want a Fabian
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: Society T-shirt? Yeah, just for a goof. I think it
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: would be hilarious. But no, so that runs through the
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: Labour Party. So that's all part of it. So I
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: think the agenda has been, to your point, they've infiltrated
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: our education system. And I'm proud of– I mean, Britain
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: stopped the slave trade. It cost us a fortune. We
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: did it almost unilaterally. And, you know, we, I think,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: on the whole, have been a force for good in
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: the world, not bad. I'm proud to say that I've
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: studied a lot of history. I think there are many
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: other cultures, probably the Belgians and the French, who are
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: far more brutal than us with their colonies. So I
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: think we've tended to leave a legacy where we've tried
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: to instill the rule of law Look at India. Look
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: at a lot of the other countries that we were
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: involved with. They're now flourishing because of the– I think
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: the structures that we left in place. And it's very
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: sad to watch us almost turning in on ourselves and
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: having left the legacy in other countries. We ourselves have
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: lost sight of what we should be doing.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: It's really extraordinary seeing the perspective of a lot of
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: young people that are very impressionable that come out of universities.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: and have an utter complete disdain for these successful societies.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: And instead of looking at these successful societies and saying, well, yeah,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: people were really terrible in the past, but this is
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: a pretty good example of how people should be treated
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: equally today. No, it's not perfect, but it's progressing in
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: a better direction than it was in the past, right? Instead,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: they look to the past and everything is built on
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: this horrible history. of outrageous, atrocious acts and therefore it
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: must be punished currently. All the people that benefited from it,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: specifically white people, need to be cast out. They need
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: to be silenced. Multiculturalism is the only way to go,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: complete open borders. The way they look at things is
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: like how do you think these countries got so good?
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: What do you think is about America or about England,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: about any of these countries? That leads them to be
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: where they are today. Well, it's a long history of progress,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: a long history. And along the way, yeah, like especially
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: when you go back hundreds of years ago, people were
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: fucking terrible. They were terrible everywhere. Humans are just getting
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: better at being people like pretty recently. But to throw
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: it all out and abandon it and to think that
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: socialism is going to fix you. Like do you guys
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: read anything? There's not a single example of that not
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: turning to tyranny. And their take on it is always
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: it hasn't been done correctly. And that is so wild
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: that people are still willing to swallow that. And the
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: only thing that makes sense is they've been indoctrinated through
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: universities to think this way because nowhere in the real
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: world– do you think that a quality of outcome ever
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: makes any sense? Because everybody realizes somewhere along the line,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: when you get your first job, when you're a kid,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: when you're going through school, when you're playing sports, there's
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: not a quality of effort. There's never a quality of effort.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: And there's always some people that want to put in
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: more effort and they're putting more thought and more focus
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: and they get further. And, you know, oh, well, they're
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: fucking over all these other people. Are you sure that's everything?
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: Because it seems like it's not. And it seems like
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: as soon as you remove any incentive to succeed, then
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: you don't have any of the amazing stuff that you
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: have around you all the time. The reason why you
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: have beautiful televisions and Starlink and all that, it's capitalism.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: It's that you have to incentivize people to create these things.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: It doesn't mean the only way to do it is
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: to fuck other people over. That's not correct. It can
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: be done correctly. It can be done humanely. It can
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: be done wisely. You could vote with your dollars. You
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: could You know, boycott companies that do things that you
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: don't think are ethical. There's all sorts of wonderful ways
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: that capitalism could be used and you can sort of
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: influence things in the right direction. But to throw it
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: all out and say we've got to go to socialism, like, oh, boy,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: I can't believe people are buying that. I just– that
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: to me is one of the real problems with not
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: allowing conservative voices in universities and that these universities, especially
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: in the United States, are a lot of– especially like
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: in– Sociology, psychology, overwhelmingly liberal. Like surely there's got to
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: be some historians out there that are conservative and they
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: would have a different perspective and it might be good
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: to have diversity of opinion. As well as diversity of
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: national origin, as well as diversity of gender, as well
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: as diversity of sexual orientation. Yeah, all that stuff is great.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: But also diversity of opinion. Like the only way to
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: know whether or not this person is making sense is
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: to have someone who completely disagrees. That is a better point.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: Go up against them and you watch them duke it out.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: And as soon as you silence all that because students
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: don't feel safe or because this is promoting– X, Y,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: and Z. This person's a Nazi. Oh, they're a Nazi.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: We can't let them on there. As soon as you
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: do that, you ruin the whole thing that a university
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: is supposed to be doing. It's supposed to be preparing
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: young minds for discourse and for communicating and for figuring
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: out the world on their own. They're eventually going to
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: be independent and dependent entirely on their own actions and
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: decisions and go out there in the world, figure out
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: your way. Arm them correctly and the way to do
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: that is to expose them to all sorts of different
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: competing ideas. The idea that that was ever accepted to
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: be shut down in this country, especially in America, is
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: a massive failure of the education system, just massive. If
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: you think that someone has bad points, come up with
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: better points and let them duke it out and don't
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: pull fire alarms and don't silence them and don't scream
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: and protest and throw things at them. Communicate. This is
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: what– and anybody who doesn't do that should be shunned.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: If you're one of those people that says, no, you
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: can't talk to Nazis, like shun them. They are the
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: enemy of thinking. They are the enemy of progress. They
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: are the enemy of finding out what's right and what's wrong.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: And the only way we find that out is we communicate.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: Free speech.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: Free speech.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: Well, free speech and a degree of Darwinism. You have
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: to have– what we have in the UK now is
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: I would say reverse Darwinian theory. And again, at schools now,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: in my day, I was lucky. We liked to win.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: To win was good. To win fairly in a proper
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: game of hockey or rugby or whatever was great. But
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: now in schools, winning is considered to be bad. Everybody
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: needs to have an opportunity to be treated the same.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: In sports?
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: Often, often in sport to win, to be seen as
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: a competitive winner.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: You guys don't have wrestling over there either.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: We don't have wrestling. I know you do. It's a
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: real problem. Cage fighting and stuff.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: I know, but I mean wrestling, just wrestling as a sport,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: just wrestling for high school and college. It's like wrestlers
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: understand meritocracy as good as any human being alive because
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: there's no way to make it unless you work hard.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: But isn't this the battle? Joe, the age-old battle between
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: individualism and collectivism.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: Because the collective likes to curb the individual. I like
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: to foster the individual, and I think what the state
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: fears most is highly successful, independent-minded people who are capable
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: of putting their point of view and discussing it with
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: each other. So what they try and do through the
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: taxation in the U.K., What they're doing is they're taxing,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: to your point, people who contribute, who work hard. And
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: there are still a lot of people who fight very
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: hard to feed their families. They're proud. They don't want
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: to be part of this welfarism. You know, they want
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: to provide and they work hard. But the state puts
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: everything in their way, all the regulations, the rules, the taxes.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: Everything is everything is the force is not with them.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: And that's got to be wrong. I mean, I think
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: what you need is a lot of successful individual family businesses,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: communities which are self-sufficient, communities that respect each other and
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: effectively can have this debate with each other. You get
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: at the truth. And I think as a result of that,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: most of the best inventions have come from the UK,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: the US, from the Anglo-Saxon world, where individualism, when it's
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: allowed to flourish... does a lot of good for mankind.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: And to your point, I think this is what's been
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: undermined by these, what I call central planners.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: And a lot of these great inventions in America have
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: come from people that immigrated legally from other countries because
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: they appreciated what America stood for and they really wanted
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: to make something happen. And they couldn't do it wherever
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: they were.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: Well, the extraordinary thing in the UK is we've got
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: a lot of support from people who are immigrants into
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: the UK. They came to Britain because they respected the
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: are structures and what they want is they want structure.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: They don't want to see the country descending into chaos.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: Trevor Burrus, Jr.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, legal immigrants in America have the same perspective. Legal
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: immigrants in America are pretty overwhelmingly against the whole open
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: border idea because it was so hard for them to
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: become an American citizen. It's a very proud moment for
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: them to do it.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: A lot of young people?
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: A lot of support from young people who are– Well, young.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: People are online. See, this is the thing. So young
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: people are much more– I want to say informed but
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: at least aware of the issue. They're much more aware
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: of things than older people that are just, again– reading
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: the newspaper and watching television.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: But don't you think it may be the same here
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: in Britain? A lot of the wealth is tied up
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: in what I call the baby boomers. So I'm a
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: sort of tail end boomer because I'm 68, but the
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: sort of bulk of them are probably 70 to 90.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: And a lot of the pension wealth is held there.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: And a lot of the damage that's been done to
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: our financial markets has come from aversion to risk. Risk
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: is a good thing, in my opinion. So people need
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: to take risk. Risk you know, the entrepreneur takes risk
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: and he gets reward if he gets it right. But
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: if you tax him into oblivion, he doesn't take the risk.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: And what's happened in Britain is the baby boomers, the
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: wealth's all locked up there. They want to see their
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: retirement through safely and not enough money is cascading down
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: to the young people to be able to build their
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: lives in the same way that the boomers were given
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: a chance to make money in this very.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: When you say not enough money is cascading down, like
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: how so?
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: What's the bottleneck? Well, the money is all locked up
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: with these old baby moves and they're more concerned with
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: their pensions and their retirement than they are with generating
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: an ongoing wealth chain, which gives an opportunity for the
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: young to be involved.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: So you're meaning they're not starting businesses?
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: No, very much not. They're just holding on to their money?
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: They're holding on to their money.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: So that's an England thing?
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: In England, definitely. I mean, I think it's a big issue.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know whether it's an issue here. Is it
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: an issue here?
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: Well, there's certainly an issue here with young people feeling
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: like the system is completely rigged. Cost of housing is
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: through the roof. Rent is through the roof. Groceries are
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: more expensive. Inflation here is a giant problem. It's a
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: giant problem for people that are struggling. We were just
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: looking at something the other day on the internet where
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: it was talking about a number of– a number from–
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: what was it? Like 2007 or 2008 or something like that.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: It was like $ 225, 000 and it's $ 450, 000 in today. Like
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: that's crazy. That's like 20 years ago. Like to have
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: something double in 20 years and you just think about
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: how many people that are coming up that just feel
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: like AI is going to take all their jobs so
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: they don't know what to do and now they're in
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: student debt because you guys have free education over there,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: which is a wonderful thing. I completely support that idea.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: But in America, these kids get saddled down with debt
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: that they can't.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: Escape from ever. In England, we don't have free education.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: In England– in Scotland, they do. Scotland has free education.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: We did used to have it. You're quite right. When
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: did it go away? Well, now students have to take
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: out loans. And this is another shocking– I.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: Thought you guys had free healthcare and free education.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: We have– well, if you call it free healthcare, assuming
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: you can get a doctor now, because most people now
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: are having to source their own medical treatment because it
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: takes you so long to get an operation or to
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: get a doctor's appointment. Although the sort of health service
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: was set up post-war to provide free healthcare, when it
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: becomes incredibly inefficient, people have to seek their own care,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: otherwise they don't get treated. But look, I think with
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: student debt now.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: When did it change where university education– It's changed.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: So now– What year was this? Well, it's been changed
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: for a long time. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. So my
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: oldest son is 35. So he took out a student loan.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: It was less then and then the fees shot up.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: So my– What's a– like for Oxford, what's a typical–
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: how much– Well, they run up– students will run up
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: debt of– in the UK now, it's not uncommon to
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: run up a debt of £ 60, 000.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: So it's– Very similar to what's going on in America.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: £ 60, 000 and they're charged the most hideous rate of interest
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: on it.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: Do you guys have the same laws in terms of
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: bankruptcy over there?
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: We do have bankruptcy laws, yeah.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: But do you have bankruptcy?
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: Student debt, you won't be bankrupted over student debt though
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: because the student debt, they just accrue the interest. If
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: you go and work in a foreign country, often you
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: don't have to pay the student debt back. I think
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: it's a 30-year liability. But once you start working, then
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: the student debt organization will take interest and principal out
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: of your salary.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: In America, if you go bankrupt, they'll forgive credit card debt,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: all sorts of other debt, but not student loan. It's
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: the one loan that you cannot ever be forgiven from.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: In fact, people who have Social Security in America, their
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: Social Security gets docked because they owe student loans.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: Is that right? I didn't know that.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: It's crazy. Imagine you're at the end of your life.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: You're living on Social Security and they're taking pieces of
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: it for an education that clearly didn't help you out.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about you, but in England, we've
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: got these ridiculous courses in sort of humanities and sort
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: of things that are completely abstruse. Yeah. And these kids
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: go and do these what I call bullshit degrees. And
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, they come out of
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: it with a load of debt.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: And no real skills.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: No skills and a completely ideologically captured mind.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: Very much so. Yeah. It's– that's– it's, and there's not
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: a lot of other alternatives.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: It's like most universities are left leaning, you know, and that's,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: that's the issue that these kids have. You're, even if
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: you're from a conservative family or if the kids grow
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: up a certain way, send them off to college and
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: they're very impressionable and they're going to get talked down
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: to by a professor who's a communist who's never had
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: a real job in his life. And he seems so
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: smart and he's very smug and he insults you if
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: you disagree with him. And he is the ruler of
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: the classroom and everybody like, Like little kids, they just
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: give in to this guy's ideas. The next thing you know,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: you're organizing on school grounds and you're doing all the
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: same things that the other communists are doing and you're
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: part of the team. Hey, we're going to fix the world.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: And you don't realize how ridiculous it is until like
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: maybe you're 35 and you have a job and then
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: you have a family and you're like, what the fuck
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: are we doing? Like what is this?
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: It does change, doesn't it?
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, 100%.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: But Oxford is the worst. It's the old expression.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: Show me a young man. Who quoted that? Who was
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: that quote from? Show me a young man who's not
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: a– was it liberal or is it progressive or whatever
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: it is? Show me a young man who's not a
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: liberal and I'll show you a man without a heart.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: Show me an old man who's not conservative and I'll
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: show you a man without a brain.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I don't know who said that, but it's
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: a common saying. Who said that, Jimmy? It's fine.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know who said that.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: It's a truism. Was it Churchill? Was it Churchill?
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: One of your people. There you go.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, brilliant and accurate. And it doesn't– being conservative doesn't
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: mean you're not kind. It's silly. It's just recognition of
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: human nature. And you can't reward people for not putting
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: in effort because then they will find ways to not
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: put in effort. You can't reward people for being a
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: quote-unquote victim. And I don't mean a real victim of
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: a crime. I mean victimized by society, victimized by circumstance.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: You can't weaponize that. Because people will cling to it.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: People love excuses. Anybody who does sports, you played hockey,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: people love excuses. Not today, my back hurts. Today, I
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: don't feel up to it. Today, I'm a little tired.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: I can't do the final lap. People love excuses. And
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: when you weaponize that and you give people incentives to
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: be– you give excuses and then you put people on
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: their heels like, whoa, I don't want to appear that
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: I'm insensitive. Let's help you out. And then all of
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: a sudden you've got a whole swath of society that
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: has carte blanche over your tax dollars for nonsense.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: Well, this is obviously what's happened in the UK. When
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: I was brought up, again, competition was a good thing.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: If you felt a bit rough, you just carried on.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: You didn't whinge. You didn't moan. You expected to fight
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: for things. If you had a setback, you didn't immediately
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: go and cry into your beer. You basically got on
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: with it.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: We need to teach people that. It's character building. Like
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: you're going to have rough days and you should cherish
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: those rough days because from them you will grow. You
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: will grow from your rough days. The down times are
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: the good ones because those down times really give you
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: the motivation and the real firepower to get out of
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: whatever situation you're in and improve your life.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: From adversity comes success. Yes. I think. Comes character for sure.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: Character and success. Yeah.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: Character for sure. I mean it doesn't exist without some
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: sort of adversity.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: But I do think– I think the young were also–
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: badly affected by the COVID, by the response to COVID, Joe.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: And I think you and I share something in common.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: I'm a pureblood. I didn't have those. Pureblood's hilarious. I
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: didn't have those injections. I wouldn't go anywhere near them.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: How did you get away with that in the UK?
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: Well, I used to go to Australia a lot because
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: I have some businesses in Perth in Western Australia. I
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: love those old rocks in Western Australia, the mining, the
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: sort of wild west and Kalgoorlie and places like that
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: you know which have got a huge historical connection to
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: sort of gold prospecting and stuff so I stopped going
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: I stopped traveling because it was very difficult to travel
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: but I don't know about you I found the lockdown
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: profoundly concerning I thought I thought things that I thought
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: were nor the norm I was losing everything that made
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: sense And there were things happening that I didn't think
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: could ever happen in Britain. The state literally took over
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: and it frightened people into submission. Same as America. And
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: the young people suffered most because They didn't have the
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: opportunity to socialize and to your point, discuss ideas and
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: get at the truth. They were literally locked up. Everything
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: was online. It wasn't right. The whole thing was completely wrong.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: Imagine if you're in high school in America and you're
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: in California your entire senior year. You're at home. You graduate.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: You can't even go to a graduation because it's too dangerous. Yeah.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: The whole thing was madness.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: Well, Sweden got it right. Anders Tegland in Sweden. He
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: was a great man, very brave man. And he got
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: that right.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: And boy, there was a lot of pushback. It was
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: amazing how many people were willing to do the work
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: of the government, how many citizens were willing to enforce
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: these ideas. It was really shocking. It was shocking to
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: watch how many people became lemmings, how many people just
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: stepped in line.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: We had people ratting on each other.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, we did it.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: They were rewarding people in Los Angeles. Yeah. They were
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: giving them financial rewards for telling on their neighbors that
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: we're having parties.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: That's what happened in England. I have a tennis court
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: in the middle of nowhere, so I used to say
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: come up and play tennis because it's ridiculous to stop
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: you playing tennis outside. I mean, absolutely mad. Anyway, they
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: used to come up and play tennis, and nobody can
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: see it. But if they played it in the village,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: then people would report each other.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. In California, we had people report on us because
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: this desk is not six feet wide.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: Seriously? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: And then they also said we were talking close to
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: each other without masks because there was a bunch of
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: people that saw people walk into the studio and we
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: shook their hand. So they were ratting on us. And
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: so we had to put a sign up in the
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: front door of the studio and we had to have
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: a bag of masks, a whole bag of masks. Do
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: we have to have hand sanitizer too? Did we have
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: that too? I think so. I think we had to
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: have hand sanitizer for a while at least. But we
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: were getting ratted on because this desk is too close.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: So it's not– this desk is only five feet wide.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: So it's no social distancing.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: It's pathetic, Joe, isn't it?
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: It was nonsense. It was so crazy.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: The whole thing made no sense.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: And it completely changed a lot of people's ideas about
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: trusting experts and trusting authority. So many people thought that
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: the health experts in this country were literally just trying
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: to make people healthy. And you didn't realize like, Oh no, no, no, no, no.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: They're trying to prop up the pharmaceutical drug cartel and
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: they're trying to make as much money as humanly possible.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: And the only way to do that is to force compliance.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: And so they will do whatever they can. They will
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: keep you from flying. They'll keep you from driving. They'll
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: keep her from going to school. You can't work. If
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: you have more than a hundred employees, everyone has to
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: get vaccinated. They were doing crazy shit where you're like,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: you guys are really going for it. And it worked.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: It worked for quite a while, but boy, did it
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: ruin everything. young people's perspective of authority completely they don't
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: trust anybody anymore and with good reason.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: Well i think it damaged them most again it's another
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: negative for them yeah i mean our national health service
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: was forcing people to have the inject you had to
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: work in the national health service you had.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: To have the jabs yeah and it didn't work it
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: didn't work that's what's actually actually worse than that show
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 3: it didn't wait created major medical problems right And I
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: don't personally think we've seen the end of it yet.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: So I've got a lot of friends who are fit.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: They ended up having myocarditis, having strokes, having heart attacks.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: And at the end of the day– Everybody knows somebody
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: that has a horrible reaction to it.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: Everybody does.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone. And to people that say they don't– I've
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: had conversations with people. I don't know anybody who had
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: a side effect. I'm like, fuck you for lying. There's
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: no way that's possible. Unless you are the luckiest person
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: in the world and you have an extremely small social
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: circle– And out of that social circle, no one had
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: a bad reaction, which is very unlikely. Unless that's true,
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: like you're just lying.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: And you're lying because.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: You probably were supportive of the vaccine initially and you
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: don't want to seem like you were on the wrong
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: side of things.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: Well, I lost friends. I don't know about you because
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: I– people said I hadn't been vaccinated and therefore I
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: was a risk to their mom or their dad or
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: their granny.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I lost a bunch of people.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: And I lost friends like that. But– I mean, in
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: countries like India, they didn't have the jab. They used
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: ivermectin to a far greater extent. And that was just
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: as effective.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: I think I used to treat my– it's a wormer, ivermectin.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: I used to treat my cattle with ivermectin. But it
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: worked well. And there were other, I think, treatments which
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: worked far better.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: Do you know what happened to me in America over ivermectin?
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: Are you aware of that? No, no, no. CNN like
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: for days was running this hit piece on me saying
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: that I was taking horse dewormer for COVID. It is
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: a worm.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: But it's also– it's great for river blindness and dengue fever.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: I mean it's won the Nobel Prize for use in
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: human beings. And they were claiming on CNN that I
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: was taking veterinary medicine. And not only that, but they
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: changed the color of my face. So they took a video.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: I was supposed to do a concert with Dave Chappelle
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: that weekend in Nashville. And I had to make a
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: video saying, I'm sorry, but we have to cancel it
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: because I got COVID. So I said I had COVID
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: like two days ago. I was sick, but I'm fine now.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: And I explained all the stuff that my doctor threw
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: the kitchen sink at it. We took all these different things.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: And one of the things that I mentioned was ivermectin.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: And because of me mentioning that, I also said monoclonal antibodies, Z-Pak.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: I talked about all the different IV vitamins. I took
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: a bunch of different stuff and I got better quick.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: And they took the video and changed the color of
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: my face to make me look green on CNN.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: No. On CNN. Well, CNN is not a good channel,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: is it?
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know until I saw that.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: I was like, wow. I was like, do I have
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: to sue CNN? Like, this is crazy.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: So is that Bill Hart's here when you're talking about
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: with the eyes, the worm in the eyes? Is that
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: the Bill Hart's you get from the water in Africa?
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: But river blindness, I do not know.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: What that– I think it's called Bill Hart's. I think
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: I may be wrong.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: You might be right. But I know they also– it's
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: used to treat yellow fever, dengue fever. It's used to
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: treat a bunch of different things. But it also has
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: antiviral properties that have been demonstrated. Like there's papers on it.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: And it's very cheap.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: Yes. But that's the problem. The problem is anybody can
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: make it. And you could buy it for like– it's
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: like a dollar a pill or something like that.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: It's nothing.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And that was the real problem is that like
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: if you want to have the emergency use authorization of
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: a vaccine that hasn't gone through the safety protocols in America,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: you have to have no other medications that are available
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: that can treat it. So the reason why they went
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: after me on CNN was because clearly I was doing OK.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: It was three days later and I said I never
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: got vaccinated. So here's all the stuff that I took
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: and now I'm fine. And they went crazy and it
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: was this concerted campaign to try to destroy me. Neil
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: Young took his music off Spotify because he said that
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: I was promoting vaccine misinformation. And he probably believed that.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: He probably did believe that. But he didn't know what
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: the fuck he was talking about. He's another old boomer
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: that just watches the news.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: Yes. Did you like his music when I was in school?
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: I loved his music.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: Didn't you?
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: I still love it.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: I still listen. I don't care.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: I mean I even told a story when I made
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: the video about how when I was at a Neil
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: Young concert– well, I was working at a Neil Young
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: concert actually when I was 19. And that was the
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: last day on the job because a riot broke out.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm a huge known young fan.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't care. He just doesn't know.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: Someone told him this or he really thinks he's doing
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: the right thing by removing his music. Like, OK. But
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: what you're doing is you're supporting this machine that is
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: lying to people and telling people the only way to
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: get through this is to get vaccinated. When, in fact,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: there's like Uttar Pradesh in India where it was just
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: very low instances of COVID fatality.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: All of it was through ivermectin.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: They had amazing success with just ivermectin.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: But again, I think the state knows that it's caused damage.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: I just don't think they can admit it at the moment.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: No, they're not going to admit. They're never going to
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: admit it. They just gloss over it and move on.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: And some of the same people that were promoting that
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: shit on the news, they still deny it.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: They still deny it.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: And they've lost debates like Chris Cuomo got destroyed by
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: my buddy Dave Smith because of it. Like they're in
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: denial of like the things that they were actually saying. Yeah.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: It was like fluoride in water and folic acid in
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: bread and all this sort of stuff.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: All that shit. It's all terrible.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: I mean it's sort of man getting high on his
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: own supply, isn't it?
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: Well, it's also a business. That's the real problem is
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: that there's lobbies in this country that they want to
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  Speaker 1: continue making money the same way they've been making money.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: And one of the ways they do it in America
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: is they advertise– on the networks. So the pharmaceutical drug
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: companies all advertise on all these networks. And they're an
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: enormous part of the advertising budget. I know in England,
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: that's not legal. And it's only legal in America and
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: in New Zealand. Those are the only two countries that
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: allow pharmaceutical drug companies to advertise on television. But what
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: it effectively does is it stops all criticism of any
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: side effects. There's no stories on heart attacks. There's no
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: stories on strokes, no stories on myocarditis. Now, if they
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: weren't advertising and then someone was making money off of
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: something that was killing people, that's the news. The news
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: would be all over it. But they have effectively ruined
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: their own reputation by turning a blind eye on something
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: that everybody knows.
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  Speaker 2: But do you think they're turning a blind eye? I
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: think they know. I think they know, but they can't
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: admit it.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: Oh, the people, the individuals most certainly must know someone
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: who got something from COVID, from the COVID shots. Someone,
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: you know, someone who had a stroke, you know, someone
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: who's got a neurological condition, you know, I know way
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: too many people for you to not know anybody. I
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: have two people that I know that are pacemakers now.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of weird, horrible side effects that happen
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: from that. If you don't know anybody that had one,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: I don't believe you.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: Well, I know loads. I mean my sister-in-law had myocarditis.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: I've had a friend– my best friend had a stroke
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: literally a week after having the jab. People have had
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: problems with heart arrhythmia.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: All sorts of stuff. And there's been some issues with blood, too.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: So, look, I think, as usual, money probably goes to
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: the root of it, Jo.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: And we had something in Britain called the nudge team,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: which basically was, I mean, how the government thought that
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: was OK. It's a bit like when I was in football,
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: people were hacking my phone and thought that was OK.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: But with the nudge team, it was to nudge people
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: into accepting the lockdown. And it was effectively very... clever
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: manipulation of the population so look i mean i i
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: you can't believe that the state thinks that's okay but
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: they did.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: They did yeah they did and they did in america
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: for depending on which city you were in to various
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: extents varying extents uh california was bad it was real
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: bad i mean they they closed down all the comedy
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: clubs they closed they lost 70 of all the restaurants
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: in los angeles i mean it's crazy yeah a great
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: place to live california though what's that It's a great
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: place to live, California. That's why people still tolerate it.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: I mean if California had the weather of Seattle, it.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: Would be empty. It would, yes.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It's like the reason why
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: people are still there is because, God, it's so amazing.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: There's so many cool people there and it's so nice
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: and the weather is incredible and the views. You could
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: be at the ocean and then two hours later you're
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: in the mountains. I mean it's an amazing place.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: It's an amazing place. I went there.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: Filled with dumbasses.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're socialists, Joe. Unfortunately, it's been permeated with socialism.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: That and grifters, grifters pretending to be socialists. They're essentially
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: those people with the wolf, with the sheep wrapped around them.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: Fabian society.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a large portion of the government in Los
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: Angeles and a large portion of the government in California
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: in general. And the way you know this is how
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: wealthy those fucking people are and how it doesn't make
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: sense how they're so wealthy. You're making how much a
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: year and you're worth how much?
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: Crime. Yeah, crime.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: They're doing crimes. One of the things that happened very
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: recently is they just announced that the governor of California,
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: one of the people on his staff had been wearing
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: a wire for over a year. Did you see that story, Jamie?
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: What's that? I don't know what they got.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: Well, no, I don't know what they got either. But
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: this lady had been– see if you can find it,
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: what it says. But she had been wearing a wire.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: She's working for the Gavin Newsom organization.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: And she was working for the administration and she was
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: wearing a wire for the FBI because they had been
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: investigating him for– and this was during the Biden administration
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: they started this.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: So they started this in 2024.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: If they're investigating him, it's supposed to be like– they
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: must know that some real shit is going down. FBI
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: infiltrated Gavin Newsom's inner circle by convincing governor's ally to
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: wear a wire.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: Not good.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: Not good. But I think it's the same in Chicago.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: You've got some pretty bad spots. San Francisco I think
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: is not good.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of people that are profiting off of
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: this idea that the government should be taking care of
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: everybody and you should be making all this money from taxes.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: And then California spent $ 24 billion on the homeless and
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: it just got worse. It is like– so now it's
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: an industry. So now you have this homeless– taking care
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: of the homeless is now an industry and there's people
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: on the homeless– industry board that are making hundreds of
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: thousands of dollars a year. And it's like, what are
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: we doing?
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: It's the same with compliance. It's the same with, as
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: you say, DEI. There's a whole industry in the UK
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: of people making vast amounts of money on compliance, DEI,
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: basically wealth creation, which ultimately strips personal responsibility and tries
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: to imbue everybody with a very sort of maligned philosophy,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: which is very damaging to them.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: Under the guise of being inclusive.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: And also, you're getting wealthy. How many people from these
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: nonprofits are getting enormously wealthy? Like, this is insane. And
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: that was one of the things that USAID clearly uncovered.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if you've ever seen Mike
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: Benz and some of his takes on it.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's shocking. I couldn't believe it.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: There's so many hours of it. It's almost like there's
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: too much information to digest. I could listen to like
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: an hour of it. I was like I got to
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: stop because I just don't know when this ends. I'm
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: not even absorbing this. I'm just so flabbergasted by the
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: extent of the corruption. The amount of money that's gone
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: to fraud and possibly waste over the years is just staggering.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: But it also went all over the world, didn't it? Oh, yeah.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: It was a philosophy, a poor philosophy that was being exported.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: to other countries and particularly to Britain. I mean, we
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: have a presenter called Rory Stewart. His wife was being
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: funded by some of this stuff, which got shut down.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: Did they shut the whole thing down? Did they leave
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: a remnant of it?
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how much they've left, but essentially
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: it's been shut down. Of course, if there was ever
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: a Democrat that got elected president in 2028, they would
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: probably start that bitch right back up, open the borders
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: right back up, business as usual.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: That would not be good, Jay.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: No. It seems like there was a desire to move
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: people into blue states and then eventually get them on
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: social assistance and then get them to become citizens and
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: then you have guaranteed voters because they– you want to
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: continue this, right? You want to continue living like this? Well,
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: this is the way. And then you would just completely
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: take over the presidential elections. And I think they were
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: trying to do that. This is Elon's perspective and I
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: think he's right. And he's obviously much more aware of
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: the problem in terms of like the extent that USAID
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: was involved and these nonprofits and NGOs were involved. It
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: seems like there was a concerted effort to do this
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: and it's disturbing.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: But again, a lack of respect for taxpayer funds, which
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: is what we have in the UK. I mean we
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: need your help. At the moment, you've got– at least
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: you're making a stab at returning to some form of normality.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: For now, but if we don't fuck it– I mean
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: we might have fucked it up by going to Iran.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: I mean this war is not something anybody that's conservative wanted.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: Most people don't want it except supporters of Israel. They're
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: the only people that seem to be thinking it's a
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: good idea in this country. Most people are horrified by
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: the idea because Trump was elected. One of the pillars
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: that he stood for apparently was that he doesn't want
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: any more wars.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: Well, I came out against it on the basis for
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: us of realpolitik, which is it wasn't in the interest
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: of the British nation. And I think, again, most of
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: these leaders should put the interests of their taxpaying public first.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: And there's only a reason to go to war if
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: it's going to benefit you. And it was difficult to
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: see what the benefit was. Although I think Iran is
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: a sort of malevolent state and it is spreading... very
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: bad philosophy across, obviously, you know, you've got Hezbollah in Lebanon,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: and then we've got Hamas causing a problem. So I
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: think there are a problem, but certainly from our point
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: of view, I mean, you're the only country with the
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: ability to do anything about it. I mean, we had
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: one warship, which didn't work properly when it was sent
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: out to help. So I mean, goodness knows we've spent
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: all our money on welfare and not enough money on defense. So, no,
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: we need help. And I think, to your point, Elon
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: Musk has been, to my mind, incredibly helpful in restoring
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: free speech because Starmer and these Fabians, Fabian Pabloist Haldane Society,
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: as I call them, they're sort of all, they've all
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: got this malign philosophy. And I think what, giving us
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: free speech has done is it's stopped them crushing the
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: spirit of those people who do want to debate, who
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: do want to discuss, who do want to get at
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: the truth.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: However, they've done so much to stop free speech with
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: all these arrests.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: It's extraordinary.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: Because they've also, they've incentivized people to keep their mouth
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: shut because no one wants to be in trouble.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: Well, it's two-tier policing. You've got, to your point about,
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: you know, the Palestinian marches are tolerated, whereas any form
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: of Tommy Robinson march. And Tommy Robinson in the UK,
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: he's deeply disliked by the establishment. I give him credit
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: for what he did. Again, on the grooming gangs in 2003,
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: he was warning about this in 2003 in Luton.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: Not only that, I remember people dismissing that in 2003
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: or 2004, whenever it was when I first heard about it.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: They were talking about him as if he was just horrible,
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: far-right extremist.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: And that he was making up these stories about these
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: grooming gangs and rape gangs. I remember hearing that. I
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: remember not knowing, like, what is it? What's accurate here?
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: What's going on?
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: Well, I think the accuracy is that he was right.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: The establishment didn't want to admit it because if we're right, well,
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: I think we are right about their multicultural post-war experiment.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: They realized it was failing because you can't justify... the
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: sort of abuse and grooming of the most vulnerable people
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: in your society. by people who have come into the country.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: They should be treated equally under the law. Rape is
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: a rape. It doesn't matter whether it's perpetrated by somebody
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: from a Muslim country or a Christian country. Rape is
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: rape and it should be treated the same.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: What would you do to stop this? Like imagine if
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: you got into power right now. What would you do?
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: To put a stop to that.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: But we have to root it out and we have
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: to stop it.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: How do you root it out?
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: We have to apply the law, the law of our
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: land to the people who are perpetrating it. The problem
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: is the police have institutionally been taught that they are racist.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: And we had the Stephen Lawrence killing, which didn't reflect
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: well in the UK. But the response to it has
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: created this fear of being called a racist.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: Which is the Stephen Lawrence killing?
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: Stephen Lawrence's killing, I think it was in the late 90s.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: He was stabbed by some sort of British miscreants.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: And where was he from?
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: He died. It was in London.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: Where was Stephen Lawrence from?
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: Well, he was a black. Oh, okay.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: So it's a racial hate crime?
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a racial hate crime. Okay. And this
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: was in the 90s? And it was blown up. And again,
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: you find that the racial hate crime involving any white
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: people is now blown up, whereas the very often and
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: increasingly common acts against the indigenous white people are hushed
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: up as much as they possibly can be.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: That's a funny thing to say, indigenous white people.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, it is real for England. But I mean,
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: nobody thinks about that in America. You would never say
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: like indigenous white people.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: Well, we do have an identity. Yes, of course.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: There's a reason why everyone's so pale.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. We do have an identity.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: It really is indigenous.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: As I say, we've been very tolerant of people who've
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: needed help. We've let them into the country. And on
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: the whole, they have integrated and they have contributed. And
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 2: I have no problem with that. Like you, I'm absolutely
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: in favor of that. The only problem is the people
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: that aren't integrating. If people don't want to come and
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: live and integrate and contribute, then they shouldn't come. They
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: should remain in their own country.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: It's also the idea of incentivizing people to illegally migrate
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: to your country is just pure insanity. You're going to
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: run out of money. And you're also putting a burden
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: on these taxpayers for no reason whatsoever. It's a bad
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: use of their tax dollars.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: But in our immigration document, we put forward the case
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: for basically a hostile environment. We don't want to be
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: handing out welfare. We don't want to be encouraging people
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: to come. We want to create a hostile environment and
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: encourage people to go unless they're contributing to go back
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: to their own country and live there, particularly if they
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: don't like our culture and our laws and they don't
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: respect us and they think we're the infidel.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: But do laws exist that would allow you to deport
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: those people?
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: Well, you'd have to repeal. So that's why it's so
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: important we win an overall majority in parliament by 29
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: because then we can repeal a lot of this legislation,
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: which will then empower the nation state again.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: So this is the legislation that provides health care, dental, welfare, housing.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: To these people. This is legislation largely passed by Tony
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: Blair and his acolytes.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: And this was all just to encourage mass migration.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: I think it was to encourage this mass immigration and
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: make it very difficult to stop it practically. Interestingly, he's
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: quite crafty because he came out the other day trying
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: to distance himself from a lot of the things that
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: he has actually created. So he's quite a canny old fox.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: And he does look, he looks a bit like Beelzebub
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: these days. I mean, he's got this white hair and
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: these piercing sort of eyes. I can't help look at
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: him and think of evil. But But look, so he ultimately,
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: I think him and his team realized what they were doing.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: And it was all done through the law. You have
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: to do in a country that believes in the rule
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: of law, the only way to change it is through
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: control of parliament. So you have to do it top
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: down through the parliamentary system so that you can repeal
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: the laws and you can pass the laws you want
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: to pass to empower the nation state. And at the
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: same time, which we're doing You need to start controlling
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: local government as well because local government has gone badly wrong.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: And a lot of the failures from the rape gang
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: inquiry weren't just the national government. You had failure at
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: local government as well.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: So are the local government willfully ignorant? Are they denying
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: its existence?
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: Are they gaslighting.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: People on it?
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. In the case of labor, they've enabled it. They–
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: I say– I can't see how anybody can ever vote
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: Labour again after they've read this report because Labour has
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: clearly enabled this, both at national level by denying what's
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: been going on and at local level where you have
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: local government. It happens mainly in Labour-controlled areas. You've got
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: people denying completely that this has been happening, whereas we
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: know it's happening. We have people like Sammy Woodhouse who's
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: a victim of it who had a child by her rapist. Ultimately,
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: local government has to be controlled from the bottom up.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: And we started that process. We won nine out of
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: nine county council seats in Norfolk. So my constituency is
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: on the coast in England. So it's a coastal constituency.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: Been very badly served by the post-war elite. So the
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 2: fishermen in England have been sold down the river largely
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: to the European fishermen as part of the membership of
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: the EU. So Norfolk is a county on the east coast.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: It's got rich farmland, and farming is my passion. I
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: love farming. It's my hobby, and I love it. So
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, we have to control
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: local government and change it bottom up, and we have
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: to then get control of national government and change it
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 2: top down. And if we can do that, Joe, I
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: truly think we can release the spirit of the British people,
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: and I think they want it. But they've got to
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: show to the ballot box that that's what they want.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: I'd imagine there's going to be an enormous amount of
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: resistance to this kind of huge change.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: From organized crime, which I think we're now in the
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: hands of, from a corrupt judiciary, from a police force
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 2: that's gone wrong, from local government that's gone wrong, the
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: NHS has gone wrong again. It's a state monopoly, and
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 2: its original function, I think, has been subverted. So you've
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: got everything. To your point, the education system is wrong.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: So there's a lot of change that needs to happen.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: But I think fundamentally, the electorate, you saw them in
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: 2016 vote to take back their sovereignty. The government wrote
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: a letter to all the households in the UK recommending
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 2: they vote to remain in the European Union. This is
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: David Cameron. But actually, the British people didn't. They voted
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: to leave. And they didn't do it, I think, for
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: financial reasons. They did it because they wanted their country back.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: They wanted their sovereignty back. They wanted an accountable parliament
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: in Westminster. And some of our problems emanate from the
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: fact that Tony Blair's reforms have undermined our parliament. So
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: our parliament is supposed to be omnipotent. It's supposed to
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 2: be completely contained in the elected representatives of the people.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: So parliament is supposed to be right at the top
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: of the chain. But what's happened is it's been undermined
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: by these quangos that Tony Blair set up, which is
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: effectively created at the life of the rent, so the
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: Supreme Court. And literally, there are hundreds of these quangos
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: that now employ unelected people.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: What is that word, quango?
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: Well, quango is like a quasi-national government organization. So they are,
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: you know, you've got all sorts of bodies, you know,
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: the sort of Bar Standards Board, you've got, loads of
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: bodies which now prevail. You know, you've got bodies on
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: almost everything, which again have flourished since Tony Blair's legislation.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: Prior to that, power lay with Parliament. So that's why
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: they've been able to control a lot of what goes on,
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: because the two-party system, the Blues and the Reds, the
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: Tories and Labour, basically have tried to out-compete each other.
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: So the entire Parliament, Blair took it left, Cameron emulated Blair,
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: and you didn't actually get proper conservative thought to change
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: a lot of this stuff that was wrong. So I
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: think this is an opportunity, and I think it's our
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: last opportunity, and all the help we can get from
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: you guys. I mean, we made a bad mistake in
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 2: letting you declare your independence, which you're celebrating tomorrow in
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: the first place. Bad mistake. Had we played our cards better,
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: I think you'd still be– you should still be part
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: of– I.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: Think it worked out.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: It's worked out pretty well for you. I think we're
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: better off. Not so well for us. Sorry.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: But I think we're better off.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: But I do want to see– I do want to
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: see– Otherwise, it would be under your laws. Well, I
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: do want to see the Anglo-Saxon world support each other.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: I think there's not enough of that. We're too fragmented.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 2: There's too much sort of– whether it's the World Economic Forum,
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: as I said, whatever the reason, there's too much fragmentation
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 2: and too much undermining of this cohesive Anglo-Saxon world, which,
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: let's face it, is the reason why we all have
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 2: individual freedom. Because, as we said earlier, individual freedom is
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: incredibly fragile. And we could lose it at any minute, Joe.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, the society that, you know, the way we
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: look at America when people look at it the right way,
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: Or when people are proud of America, they look at
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: it as a place where anybody can come and achieve
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: your dreams. And it doesn't mean. only white people. It
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean only black people. It just means Americans. We're
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: supposed to be a community, a team. And the fact
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: that we're a melting pot, that we're not like indigenous
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: white people like England is part of the fun of
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: it all, that everyone's welcome. Just come over here and
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: do your thing and follow the rules. But the problem
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: with this country is the problem with any country when
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: you're being run by people that are completely corrupt and
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: you're being run by people that are influenced by enormous
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: corporations that don't care about the people. They only care
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: about the bottom line, how much money they're making and
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: how do they rig things. And then you have politicians
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: that are making $ 170, 000 a year but they're somehow worth
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: $ 400 million. And no one questions it. No one is
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: in jail. The whole thing is bonkers. And it's just–
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: you're always going to have crooks. And you got to
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: hold them off. You got to hold them off as
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: much as possible. When you recognize they're in, you got
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: to do a cleaning. You got to clean house. You
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: got to clean house and get rid of them. If
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: you don't, you're just going to have the problems. It's
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: going to get worse because they're going to figure out, okay,
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: it's just like antibiotics when you don't take the full
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: round and the stuff doesn't really go down. You said, no,
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: now you got medication resistant bacteria. Congratulations. Your medication has
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: made the bacteria worse. So if you fight off the
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: corruption a little bit and then you stop, They go, oh, well,
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: we got up.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: We were close. We almost figured it all out and
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: got it all rigged.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: But now we've got to make sure that we lock
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: people down and have even more laws, even more restrictions.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: You've summed up what we need to do in the
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: UK very well. I mean we are, I think, in
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: the hands of organized crime. I think a lot of
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 2: the institutions that we had previously have become rotten.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: I think it's the right way to recognize it too.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: It's in the– and to your point, we do need
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: to now punish people who have let us down.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: It's crime. It really is crime. And to just pretend
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: because it's been going on for so long and that
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: it's business as usual that it's not a crime.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 2: Like, no, it's crime.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: It's crime. It's just somehow or another crime that's tolerated.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: Well, letting down people who have elected you and given
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: their trust to you is a massive crime.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: It's, it's not just letting down, betraying them.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, we, we have the same as you, but
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: to a lesser extent, because you, you've obviously got far
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: more wealth than us, but I, you see these officials, uh,
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: who end up becoming rich and you wonder how they
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 2: do it. Yeah. And they're on salaries and they're taxed heavily.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: And yet they always seem to flourish. They never seem
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 2: to be short of money. So I, I, I, and
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 2: I look at our judiciary, which is again, now a quango,
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: the judges, um, are no longer appointed by Parliament. They're
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: appointed by this woke quanger. And I had an issue
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 2: in Parliament. I challenged Parliament because, to the point where
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: I've been saying we need to return power to Parliament,
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: they have this body called the ICGS, Independent Complaint Agreement Scheme.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: And in Parliament, we have this system called parliamentary privilege.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: So I can speak on the floor of the House
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: and I can't be sued for light but you can
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 2: say whatever you want that's the essence of free speech
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: in the chamber of the commons now this body has
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: actually been expressly taken outside parliament and the case I
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 2: had against them was they tried to say I couldn't
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: I caught them doing something I thought was wrong and
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 2: I wanted to take them to court they said you
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: can't take us to court because we're parliamentary privileged even
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 2: though it doesn't it's not the chamber it's not an
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: MP speaking it's got no MPs on this committee it
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 2: doesn't report to a parliamentary committee and yet The judge
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: found they had parliamentary privilege. Didn't address the questions. So
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: this is how the elected assembly has been undermined. And
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 2: this is what we have to– we have to return
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: power to the elected representatives of the people.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: There's also another thing that Britain has done recently that's
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: very disturbing, which is eliminate jury trials for a lot
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: of crimes.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 2: They're trying to do that. They're trying to do that.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: So it's not established yet?
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: They haven't yet done it because there is– There are
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 2: still a few decent labor MPs who fought against it. Oh, good.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 2: But again, I think that's all a manifestation of organized
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 2: crime because if you control the judges.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: And you can force more and more people through a
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: judge system rather than a jury system. And so for
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 2: libel trials, I fought a libel trial when I was
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: in football against the Times, which is Rupert Murdoch's paper. And,
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: you know, I think I had my phones hacked and
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: I fought a libel trial against them.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: So the newspaper hacked your phone?
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: When I was in football, they were hacking my phone
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 2: every day. How were they doing it? Listening in through
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 2: my voicemails.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: How'd they do it?
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: And then they can blag a number from the voicemail
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 2: and start listening. So if you called me and left
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 2: a message, they could blag your number off my phone.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 2: And they thought this was okay. These were national newspapers.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 2: And again, I want to.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: How did they get into your voicemail?
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: Well, because they... In the old days, if people had
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: a code to encrypt their phone and they didn't do
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 2: it properly, so we had 0, 0, 0, 0. If
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: you didn't change that, they got into your phone. So
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: they got into my phone. They got into lots of
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 2: people's phones because you never know quite how they did it.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: So if you'd left me a message, they could blag
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 2: your number, and then they'd start listening to your phone
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: and everything else. Now, I think that was, in this case, Murdoch.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: But Murdoch, I think, has done a lot. for the
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: right wing cause. I don't always agree with everything. And
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 2: I certainly didn't agree with him hacking phones. But this
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: all goes to the point of the establishment becoming corrupted.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 2: And from corruption, I think, again, you end up with oppression.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: And we need to sort that out. And I'm hoping
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 2: if I put myself up and the people agree, they
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: will change things. And I think they are in a
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: febrile mood. So I'm hoping that they will take the
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 2: opportunity and give us the power to do it.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that part up because we're not
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: really aware in America of what the general mood of
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: the country is, like where people are leaning and what
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: direction as far as England goes. What is it like?
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: Is a large percentage of the population fed up? I mean,
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: what's going on over there?
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: Well, I think to your point, you've got this body
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 2: of people who are profiting on the back of these
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 2: concepts which are you and I would agree, are completely flawed.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 2: So they're obviously in control at the moment. But then
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 2: you've got the body of people, this increasingly small percentage
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 2: of what I call the private sector, which now accounts
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 2: for a smaller and smaller proportion of GDP. So your
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: percentage of GDP accounted for by the state is much,
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: much smaller than ours. So directly and indirectly, I would
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 2: estimate that our The share of government now in our
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 2: economy is over 50% if you take the effect of
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: these quangos and everything else. Here, you're much smaller than that. Now,
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: that's come pre-Blair. Thatcher, we were in a very, very
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 2: good economic state and the state accounted for 30%, 33%,
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 2: something like that. It's now up to nearly 50% and rising.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 2: And this is what the Fabians want. They want a
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 2: dependency culture. a sort of centrally planned USSR-style dishing out
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: of taxpayer funds. So they've diminished the private sector, which
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 2: they're taxing into oblivion, which has meant that a lot
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 2: of our most able people have left the country. So
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 2: we've lost a lot of our rainmakers have gone. So
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 2: a lot of our best people went to, obviously, Italy,
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 2: to Dubai, to Abu Dhabi, all over the world. Some
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 2: of them would have come here. So the best brains
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 2: have gone. And I think the non-doms have gone, which
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 2: again I think is a huge error because they've now
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 2: been taxed rather than being encouraged to spend their time
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 2: in the UK. So we're being hollowed out by this
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 2: socialist philosophy which is creating damage to the private sector
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 2: and empowering the public sector.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: Is there a large percentage of young people that are
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: aware of this?
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, the young people have I've been incredibly impressed, and
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 2: a lot of them support us. So they can see
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 2: that we're trying, I think, to at least rebalance this.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 2: And until we get this right, it's going to be
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 2: very difficult to sort their situation out. Now, there's no
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 2: overnight fix these days, and I don't think any of
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 2: us know quite what effect AI is going to have
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 2: on the employment market, on opportunities for young people. I mean,
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 2: in many ways, if they've got a very good brain,
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 2: they've got a huge opportunity to do very well and
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 2: enrich themselves. But increasingly, it's fewer and fewer people. It's
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 2: not like the Industrial Revolution, where the majority of people
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 2: had an increasing standard of living. It's going to be
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 2: very interesting to see how we all cope with this
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 2: incredibly fast-moving revolution, which is what it is, which is
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 2: which is arguably going to create some incredibly rich people.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: And those people who haven't got the brainpower will end
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 2: up struggling. So it's hard to see how that's going
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 2: to end. But that doesn't mean to say we want
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: a state central planning everything. We know historically that doesn't work.
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 2: And from that comes a sort of shutdown of thought
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 2: and debate and free speech and all the things that
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 2: you and I love. I mean, to me, that's a
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 2: country I want to live in. I don't want to
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 2: live in a centrally planned mess. So we're in very
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 2: uncertain times, but I'm optimistic that if you release the ability,
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 2: the innate ability of people, in Britain in particular in
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: this case, I think we can turn it around still.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 2: Can't guarantee it, but I'm pretty sure we can still
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 2: turn it around. But it's got to happen now. If
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 2: it doesn't happen now, it would have gone too far.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: Well, I certainly hope you can, because for America, when
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: we see what's happening, particularly with the social media posts
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: and the arrests, it's so disturbing for us. And then,
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: of course, with the rape gang inquiry report, it was
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: impossible to believe.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 2: It's impossible.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: So, you know, we hope you guys turn it around.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: And when is your elections?
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: We don't know, Joe. We've got this character, Andy Burnham,
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: who Keir Starmer has stepped down, as you probably know.
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 2: Andy Burnham, I call him the Ghostbuster. He is just
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 2: a more user-friendly version of Keir Starmer. He's been the
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 2: mayor of Manchester. He stood in a by-election recently where
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 2: he was elected. And he's apparently going to be anointed
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 2: as prime minister by the 20th of July. So this
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 2: is a guy who up until recently wasn't even an
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  Speaker 2: elected politician. He's been a politician in the past. He's
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  Speaker 2: been in the cabinet.
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  Speaker 1: Keir Starmer can just step down and put another guy
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  Speaker 1: in his place and that guy takes over?
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  Speaker 2: That's what's happening.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I know. What a story.
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  Speaker 1: Stupid way to run things.
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  Speaker 2: It's bonkers. So the answer to your question is it
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  Speaker 2: could run until 29. 29. That's the backstop date. He could,
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  Speaker 2: and everybody says he might, have a snap election. I
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  Speaker 2: think that's highly unlikely. Labour have got the biggest post-war majority.
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  Speaker 2: Why would he have a snap election? He's got three
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  Speaker 2: years left with a huge majority. So why would he
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  Speaker 2: take a risk? In Manchester, he was Manchester mayor. Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 2: He's actually in the report, in the rape gang report.
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  Speaker 2: He's mentioned in the rape gang report for not doing
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  Speaker 2: enough in Manchester, which is a centre of rape gangs.
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  Speaker 2: So he's involved in that. He's mentioned in our report.
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  Speaker 2: It's in there. So, look, I think, in answer to
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  Speaker 2: your question, when's the election going to be, some people
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  Speaker 2: would say he's going to have an election soon. I
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  Speaker 2: don't agree with that. I think he'd be mad because
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  Speaker 2: I still think the public... We'll judge labor harshly because
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  Speaker 2: the economy is not going well. People aren't feeling richer.
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  Speaker 2: They're feeling poorer. Their businesses are struggling. Their taxes have
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  Speaker 2: gone up. Our taxes are at post-war highs now. And
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  Speaker 2: the waste is just off the scale. So when I'm
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  Speaker 2: in the Public Accounts Committee, which I sit in, again,
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  Speaker 2: it's all on– you can watch it on– people watch
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  Speaker 2: it on screens. It's the Public Accounts Committee. It's the
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  Speaker 2: most powerful committee in parliament. And we question these civil servants.
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  Speaker 2: to try and hold them to account for the taxpayer.
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  Speaker 2: The waste is just off the scale. So you've got
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  Speaker 2: a wasteful, inefficient state, which is then taxing the private
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  Speaker 2: sector into oblivion, the increasingly small private sector. And that's
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  Speaker 2: not a recipe that's going to encourage risk-taking investment. They're
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  Speaker 2: taxing family farms. They're taxing family businesses for the first time.
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  Speaker 2: They're basically breaking the backbone of Britain. To the Fabian point,
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  Speaker 2: they are they are enacting this fabian agenda which is
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  Speaker 2: designed to create a a society that's reliant on the
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  Speaker 2: state i don't want i don't want that.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody should want that well listen man thank you very
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  Speaker 1: much for being here i really appreciate it i really
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  Speaker 1: appreciate you uh taking the time i know it was
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  Speaker 1: difficult to get here for this day and this is
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  Speaker 1: the only day we had open so.
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  Speaker 2: No it's very kind of you to have me on
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  Speaker 2: joe and i know it's it's some big celebrations tomorrow
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  Speaker 2: so good luck to you yeah we're gonna win we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna i'm i'm amazed at the support we've got and
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  Speaker 2: um I'm amazed at the number of people who, even
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  Speaker 2: on the plane, come up to me and thank me
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  Speaker 2: for what I'm doing and say they're going to vote
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  Speaker 2: for us. And I think Britain's on the turn. And hopefully,
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  Speaker 2: if we put up shop, tell them what we're going
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  Speaker 2: to do, give them a chance to vote for us.
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  Speaker 2: If they vote for us, I shall do my best
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  Speaker 2: to change things. If they don't vote for me, well,
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  Speaker 2: that's their prerogative. That's democracy. That's democracy. Good luck, sir.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Pleasure.
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  Speaker 1: Bye.
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  Speaker 3: Bye.
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  Speaker 2: Bye.