Latest / Vigilante Vibes Podcast / Ep. 111. Who is Ben Grimm, AKA The Thing, From Marvel Comics?
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- 0:17Hi. Hi guys, it's Megan Vid
- 0:18Vigilante vibes and I am coming to you with another breakdown of
- 0:22a Marvel character from the comics and one I think we're all
- 0:25very involved with. But with Fantastic Four first
- 0:28steps coming, well, what better time is it to talk about the
- 0:32Fantastic Four members, the Marvel's first family?
- 0:36So we're going to be starting with Ben Grimm AKA The Thing,
- 0:40and I hope you learned something, or at least I hope
- 0:44you like what I have to say. So let's talk about who Eben
- 0:47Moss Bacharach is playing. Ben Grimm AKA The thing is a
- 0:51founding member of the Fantastic Four and 1st appeared in
- 0:54Fantastic Four number one in 1961.
- 0:57Ben Grimm is the original tough guy of the Marvel Universe, but
- 1:01underneath all that muscle and attitude, he's also the most
- 1:04tragic member of the Fantastic Four.
- 1:07He used to be a top notch test pilot, but after getting hit
- 1:10with cosmic radiation after that Space Flight, he was turned into
- 1:15a rock skin powerhouse. His body's tougher than stone,
- 1:19which makes him seem rough and grumpy on the outside, but deep
- 1:23down he's got a heart of gold. Ben Grimm grew up tough on the
- 1:27rough streets of New York's Yancey St.
- 1:30He was a bit rough around the edges but had a good heart and
- 1:33his way out of that life came through a football scholarship
- 1:37while attending Empire State University.
- 1:39He became best friends with a young genius named Reed Richards
- 1:42and promised to one day pilot the spaceship Reed was dreaming
- 1:47of building. After college, Ben joined the
- 1:49military chasing his dream of becoming a pilot and even got
- 1:53some experience in the astronaut program, something that would
- 1:58come in handy later. Eventually, Ben reconnected with
- 2:02Reed, who convinced him to help test fly his new spaceship.
- 2:06Ben agreed, though he wasn't shy about his concerns with the
- 2:09ship's shielding. Sure enough, once they were in
- 2:12space, Ben, Reed, and siblings Sue and Johnny Storm were hit by
- 2:16the cosmic rays. Ben managed to crash land the
- 2:19ship safely back on Earth, but all four of them came out
- 2:23changed. Ben got the absolute worst of
- 2:25it, transforming into a massive rock skinned brute soon known as
- 2:29The Thing. From that moment on, the four of
- 2:32them stuck together not just as a superhero team, but as a
- 2:35family. The Fantastic Four, The Thing,
- 2:38is easily one of the strongest people on the planet, probably
- 2:41second to only the Hulk, probably.
- 2:44Thanks to his unique rocket body, he can lift close to 100
- 2:48tons, tank extreme heat and cold, and shrug off explosions
- 2:53and energy blasts like they're nothing.
- 2:55His skin is nearly impossible to break unless you're working with
- 2:59alien tech or magic, and even though he looks like he's made
- 3:03of solid rock, his body is actually flexible enough for him
- 3:06to move around pretty freely. That said, his big rocky fingers
- 3:10make it tough for him to use most machines or controls unless
- 3:14they're specially built for him. Over the years, Ben's looks have
- 3:19changed from a bumpy, uneven hide to a more defined structure
- 3:24that looks like he's made of linked together stone plates.
- 3:27At one point, he even had the ability to switch back to his
- 3:31human form whenever he wanted, but that power's long gone.
- 3:35Still, after living in his rocky skin for so long, he's come to
- 3:39terms with it as a pilot. Ben's one of the best out there,
- 3:45and his natural leadership skills, shaped by his time
- 3:47running with a street gang on Yancey St. and serving in the
- 3:50military, make people want to follow him.
- 3:53Even if he can be a little grumpy sometimes.
- 3:56He's fiercely loyal and has earned the respective heroes all
- 4:00around the world. Ben Grimm sees the Fantastic
- 4:03Four as his real family, with Reed Richards being his best
- 4:06friend. They've been tight since their
- 4:09college days, and even though their friendship has been tested
- 4:12more than a few times during their wild adventures, it's held
- 4:15strong. Back in the early days, Ben had
- 4:18a bit of a crush on Sue Storm, but she saw through all the rock
- 4:21and roughness to the kind loyal guy underneath and they ended up
- 4:27building a deep sibling like bond.
- 4:29As for Johnny Storm, him and Ben bicker like crazy, but when it
- 4:33really counts they're they absolutely have each other's
- 4:36backs. They're all very much ride or
- 4:38die. The real love of Ben's life
- 4:41though is Alicia Masters. She won his heart early on with
- 4:45her kindness, calm spirit, and the way she truly sees people
- 4:50even though she's blind. Their relationship has had its
- 4:53ups and downs, but they have always found their way back to
- 4:57each other. Not long ago, Ben finally
- 5:00proposed and the two are now happily married.
- 5:04Across the superhero world, Ben's known as someone you can
- 5:07count on. Loyal, dependable, always ready
- 5:10to step up. He's built strong friendships
- 5:13with big names like Spider Man, Wolverine, Captain America, and
- 5:17Luke Cage. And somehow, despite his rocky
- 5:20appearance, Benz had a surprising amount of luck with
- 5:23the ladies, something that tends to leave his friends both
- 5:27impressed and a little confused. As one of the original members
- 5:31of the Fantastic Four, the Thing has faced off against more
- 5:34villains than most heroes. His main nemesis is more than
- 5:38likely probably Doctor Doom, who he first met back in college
- 5:42when Doom was just Victor Von Doom, a brilliant but arrogant
- 5:46scientist and future ruler of Latveria.
- 5:50Every time they cross paths, Ben's ready to throw hands, but
- 5:54Doom tends to underestimate just how tough and determined he
- 5:57really is. Ben's also got a long running
- 6:00beef with Namor the Submariner, mostly because of Namor's thing
- 6:04for Sue Richards and his not so secret hatred of Reed, Ben's
- 6:08best friend. That tension has led to more
- 6:10than a few brawls over the years.
- 6:12Then there's the Yancey St. gang, basically a bunch of local
- 6:16punks who've kept messing with him ever since he left the
- 6:19neighborhood for college. Every new generation seems to
- 6:23pick up the torch just to mess with him, but when it comes down
- 6:28to it, a lot of people would say Ben's biggest enemy is himself.
- 6:33As the Fantastic Four started to come together under Reed
- 6:36Richards leadership, Ben Grimm, the Thing was still trying to
- 6:39figure out where he fit in as this big rocky monster as he
- 6:44calls it. Along the way, he got into some
- 6:47classic brawls with the Hulk, teamed up with the Human Torch
- 6:50for all kinds of wild adventures, and went through a
- 6:53bunch of changes in his strength and appearance.
- 6:55Those changes messed with his mood too, making him more prone
- 6:59to anger. He quit the team a few times
- 7:02over small things and even tried to escape his life altogether by
- 7:06hiding out in different time periods or remote places.
- 7:11In those early years, Reed worked hard to find a cure for
- 7:15Ben's condition. Sometimes he came up with a
- 7:17temporary fix for the cosmic radiation, but the only real
- 7:22piece Ben has found was in his relationship with Alicia
- 7:26Masters, the kind blind sculptor who saw the real hymn.
- 7:32After a lot of drama with the team and constant battles with
- 7:35enemies from Earth and beyond, Ben took a break and worked as
- 7:39head of security for Project Pegasus, a government research
- 7:44facility. At one point, he finally turned
- 7:47back into his human self for good, or so he thought.
- 7:51When he got frustrated about being left out of the action,
- 7:54Reed built him a special Thing shaped exosuit so he could still
- 7:58join the team. During this time, Reed started
- 8:01to suspect that Ben might actually have the ability to
- 8:04change his forms on his own, but he kept that theory to himself.
- 8:08Eventually, Ben changed back into the Thing and joined his
- 8:11fellow heroes on Battle World, a strange alien planet created by
- 8:16the Beyonder. While there, he did discover
- 8:19that he could switch between forms at will and chose to stay
- 8:22behind after the other heroes went home.
- 8:25He explored Battle World for a while, but when he came back to
- 8:29Earth, he found he couldn't turn into a human anymore.
- 8:34On top of that, he was crushed by what he saw as Reed's
- 8:37betrayal and by Alicia falling for Johnny Storm while he was
- 8:41away. After splitting from the team
- 8:43again, Ben met Sharon Ventura, a powerhouse in her own right, and
- 8:48the two got involved in the wild world of Unlimited Class
- 8:51Wrestling. They even teamed up briefly with
- 8:54the West Coast Avengers. Later, Ben's body mutated once
- 8:57more and he rejoined the Fantastic Four, this time as the
- 9:00team's leader. While Reed and Shu took a break,
- 9:04Sharon, now transformed into she Thing, fought alongside the team
- 9:08and started a romance with Ben, but eventually her mental state
- 9:12took a turn and she ended up clashing with both Ben and the
- 9:16rest of the team. At one point, Doctor Doom upped
- 9:20the stakes and actually took over Ben Grimm's body to go
- 9:22after his nemesis. Things got intense, everyone
- 9:26thought the Thing had died. Reed and the rest of the team
- 9:29weren't ready to let him go, so they literally went on a journey
- 9:32to find his soul, which led them all the way to heaven, where
- 9:36they met a mysterious being known only as the Creator.
- 9:40With some help from his late brother, Ben was convinced to
- 9:44come back to life, and the Fantastic Four had a heartfelt
- 9:46reunion that brought them even closer as a family.
- 9:52But when they got back to business, they found out that
- 9:54the US government had drained their resources.
- 9:56Suddenly, they were broke and stuck taking on random jobs just
- 10:00to pay the bills. Luckily, Ben came into a
- 10:04surprise fortune with some investments the government
- 10:08hadn't touched. He had a good time blowing
- 10:11through some of it and then turned around and gave a lot of
- 10:13way to charity. Even though he didn't like the
- 10:15idea of the Superhuman Registration Act, Ben agreed to
- 10:19help enforce it, putting him at odds with Sue and Johnny.
- 10:23After Captain America surrendered, Ben was so torn up
- 10:26by the whole civil War between heroes that he took some time
- 10:29off to get his head straight. When he came back, he stepped up
- 10:32as a team leader again, this time with Black Panther and
- 10:36Storm, filling in for Reed and Sue.
- 10:38Not long after, the team rescued the real Alicia Masters from the
- 10:42Scrolls, and Ben moved on romantically, starting a serious
- 10:46relationship with a teacher named Debbie Green.
- 10:49Especially after learning Alicia just wanted to be friends.
- 10:53Around then, Luke Cage invited Ben to split his time between
- 10:56The Adventures and the Fantastic Four.
- 11:00Things got wild again when Ben got possessed by a mystical
- 11:04hammer during a major event and became angrier.
- 11:08Breaker of Souls. Once that passed, he was cleared
- 11:12of a murder charge involving Alicia Stepdad the Puppet
- 11:14Master, and joined the resistance against HYDRA when a
- 11:20corrupted Captain America took over the US.
- 11:23He even spent time with the Guardians, the Galaxy, and
- 11:26SHIELD during the Secret Wars event.
- 11:28After the multiverse was destroyed and Doom created a
- 11:31patchwork world called Battle World, Ben ended up transforming
- 11:36into a giant living wall called the Shield.
- 11:39Eventually he helped read defeat Doom with Doom's God like
- 11:44powers. Reed rebuilt the universe but
- 11:46chose to stay behind the scenes with Sue and their kids to
- 11:50restore the multiverse. Meanwhile, Ben and Johnny used a
- 11:54device remade the multi sect to search for them across different
- 11:59realities. After a long journey, the team
- 12:02finally reunited, kicking off a bold new chapter for the
- 12:06Fantastic Four. So that is Ben Grimm in a
- 12:10nutshell. He is.
- 12:15He's like the loving uncle. He has loving uncle energy and
- 12:21the Fantastic Four, but I feel like he's I feel like at times
- 12:25he's the wise one. I know Reed is the smartest man
- 12:28in the universe, blah, blah blah, but I feel like the thing
- 12:33has it together a little bit better.
- 12:35So as always, I have some comics for you to check out to learn
- 12:37more about Ben Grimm that actually are not Fantastic Four
- 12:41comics. So starting off startling
- 12:44stories, The Thing, Hulk and Thing, Hard Knocks, Clobber in
- 12:51Time, Dan Slot's Thing solo series, 2 in one annual number
- 12:59seven Thing Freak Show, Astonishing Tales, The Thing,
- 13:06Walter Mosley and Tom Riley's 2021, The Thing limited series,
- 13:10and John Byrne's solo series of The Thing.
- 13:14So those are all, they're all pretty great to be honest with
- 13:18you. I really enjoyed all of them.
- 13:20So if you have any other comic recommendations, please let me
- 13:23know in the comics because I'm not a professional.
- 13:25I just know what I've read. So with that being said, make
- 13:29sure you like and subscribe so you don't miss any more of these
- 13:31breakdowns and have a marvelous day.