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INTERVIEW: Eric Bellinger On Independent Music Journey, Married Life, Therapy + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Every day a week. Click up the Breakfast Club. You
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  Speaker 2: Morning, everybody in Steve j Envy just hilarious, Charlamagne the
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  Speaker 1: We got a special guest in the Belding Absolutely, Eric Bellinger.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome you doing man, happy to be back.
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  Speaker 2: Now you're in town. You're on tour with Chris Brown
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  Speaker 2: and Rushing. Yes, sir, how's that tour been going this week?
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  Speaker 3: Nice?
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  Speaker 4: It's a movie, bro U. Craziest show ever, Craziest show ever,
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  Speaker 4: especially on the R.
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  Speaker 3: And B tip.
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  Speaker 5: Now you come out dead, my ba I've been.
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  Speaker 6: You come out and Mike is all not playing, man,
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  Speaker 6: you'd be getting to it.
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  Speaker 5: I'm so freaking proud of you to see on.
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  Speaker 6: Those stadium stages like stop playing people know, Eric Bellan,
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  Speaker 6: So proud of you, bro Thank you appreciate.
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  Speaker 7: That you know one thing about you you You've written
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  Speaker 7: a lot of hits for everybody right like you. I've
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  Speaker 7: always wondered for songwriters like yourself, the songwritering ever become
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  Speaker 7: a prison, like you're making other people's staws.
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  Speaker 3: Nah, because the thing is a songwriting job.
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  Speaker 4: Is It's a privilege, honestly, like to be able to say, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I was a part of that song, part of this song.
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  Speaker 4: It's a big, big bar. I'm just also passionate about
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  Speaker 4: my artistry too.
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  Speaker 7: But is it tough to like write songs for other
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  Speaker 7: people and they make them stars that you still trying
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  Speaker 7: to convince people your.
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  Speaker 4: I think for the for the songwriting part of it
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  Speaker 4: is just like, Okay, these songs have a completely different
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  Speaker 4: type of push.
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  Speaker 3: Every song I've been working on with somebody's most.
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  Speaker 4: Likely like major label, big building behind it, and then
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  Speaker 4: I have been on my independent journey. So you know,
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  Speaker 4: they say comparison is the thief for joy. So I
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  Speaker 4: never wanted to even cloud my mind to thinking they're
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  Speaker 4: better or I'm less than because the music it's the
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  Speaker 4: same quality.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, how did the tour happen? How did you get
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  Speaker 6: on the tour?
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  Speaker 1: Man?
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  Speaker 3: So?
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  Speaker 4: I was at a concert actually be two K concert
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  Speaker 4: in LA and right behind me it's Chris Brown.
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  Speaker 3: He just tapped me on the shoulder like yo. I
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  Speaker 3: was like, oh see me.
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  Speaker 4: He was like, yo, I'm putting together this tour and
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  Speaker 4: I want you to be a part of it. I
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  Speaker 4: want to you know what I mean, pitch it till
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  Speaker 4: you pitch the idea. I was like, no pitch necessary,
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  Speaker 4: he said. He said, no, I'm still want to picture
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  Speaker 4: to you like nah, gang like send me the info
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  Speaker 4: in details when it's time.
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  Speaker 3: Man. That was it, and that was it.
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  Speaker 1: He kept his work.
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  Speaker 2: He did, Wow, Yeah, that's a writer. Do you have
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  Speaker 2: to go back and forth like should I give this
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  Speaker 2: to an artist? Should I keep it for myself? Kind
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  Speaker 2: of like with Cholamine said, do I want to be
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  Speaker 2: my own start? H I know this is a hit,
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  Speaker 2: and I know when I give it to him, I'm
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  Speaker 2: giving a hit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 4: It's sometimes that I like will be keeping in the
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  Speaker 4: Eric Balancer folder and then maybe Usher hit me like yo'
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  Speaker 4: what's cracking?
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  Speaker 3: You got anything but da da da, And then I'd
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  Speaker 3: be like, Okay, I was saving this one, but it's ussure.
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  Speaker 4: So if I can get him to sing this song
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  Speaker 4: and take it to the next level, if I'm Eric
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  Speaker 4: Bellinger forerroal, I should be able to write another one.
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  Speaker 7: Do you ever feel like being the industry secret weapon
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  Speaker 7: cost you any like mainstream fame?
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  Speaker 4: You know, for a long time I was skeptical about
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  Speaker 4: putting out what I wrote a long time and saying, hey,
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  Speaker 4: I had something to do with that. He ad because
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  Speaker 4: I had like a whole situation happened where I was
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  Speaker 4: posting about the music and somebody went for me on
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  Speaker 4: Twitter crazy. So I think from then I was kind
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  Speaker 4: of traumatized about putting it out there.
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  Speaker 3: And then I seen stuff happen to people like Quinin.
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  Speaker 4: Miller and like, you know what I mean, like the songwriters,
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  Speaker 4: they were just getting frowned upon for being proud of
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  Speaker 4: their work and their accomplishments and their compositions. So I
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  Speaker 4: just kind of kept it low key for a while,
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  Speaker 4: and it was if you know, you know, but it's
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  Speaker 4: starting to out.
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  Speaker 7: Whether the artists that came for you. Yeah, I almost
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  Speaker 7: have missed that one. Nah, damn No, I didn't miss it.
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  Speaker 3: I know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: I thought what she's looking at.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna ask what changed because at one time
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  Speaker 2: writers didn't necessarily talk about the songs that they wrote, right,
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  Speaker 2: But most times people didn't think about it. People didn't care, right,
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  Speaker 2: they just you heard the song, it's a dope soul.
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  Speaker 2: You keep it moving. But now it's to the time,
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  Speaker 2: like you said with quintin it and yourself and some
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  Speaker 2: of these other writers where people attack the writers like
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  Speaker 2: that's your job, Like I'm writing, this is my check.
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  Speaker 2: This is where I get my brother, I get my publishing.
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  Speaker 2: I wrote, like when when did the time change where
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  Speaker 2: it became okay now where people are more understandable.
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  Speaker 4: She So the beginning was all good. You knew that
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  Speaker 4: the Temptations wasn't writing the songs.
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  Speaker 8: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: People cared though it is good music.
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  Speaker 3: Good music, entertainment.
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  Speaker 4: But I think once the rap era began, it was
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  Speaker 4: more so about the MC and more make.
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  Speaker 3: Sure your bars is you can't rap nobody else bars.
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  Speaker 4: And then the line started getting blurred because the rappers
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  Speaker 4: started having melody.
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  Speaker 3: So now maybe the rapper didn't.
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  Speaker 4: Write that song, but they still have to persona or
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  Speaker 4: have to feel like, nah, it's my lyrics. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: maybe the insecurity could show you know, and it was
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  Speaker 4: just like yo, just ghostwriting is the thing now, like
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  Speaker 4: but I have no ghost You're gonna know that I
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  Speaker 4: did it. You know what I'm saying. I'm getting this publishing,
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  Speaker 4: I'm getting credit. My lawyers is handling the producer deck.
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  Speaker 4: We're doing all that.
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  Speaker 7: Different genres, though, I think that it's more acceptable in
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  Speaker 7: R and B, Like, yeah, a rapper getting somebody to
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  Speaker 7: write his raps is like I think, so, you know
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  Speaker 7: what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: It though, I think so maybe if it's if it's
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  Speaker 4: a battle rapper, this is a battle raper, but doctor
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  Speaker 4: think about.
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  Speaker 3: Like a French Montana or something like that. About no stylist,
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  Speaker 3: Yeah go cut that, do that, bro, But that's different.
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  Speaker 7: It's a hook Like I don't mind a song, okay,
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  Speaker 7: but I'm talking about your actual bond that you.
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  Speaker 4: Speaking Yeah, yeah, yeah, the bars m it's it's it's
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  Speaker 4: tricky for a rappers rapper, you can't call your so
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  Speaker 4: for rapper.
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  Speaker 3: You just gotta be like I'm an artist. I'm an
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  Speaker 3: artist artist, but.
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  Speaker 6: Sometimes the writer can't be the artist because they ain't
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  Speaker 6: got the delivery, don'et got the penmanship, and sometimes the
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  Speaker 6: artists don't have the penmanship.
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  Speaker 5: So it's a dynamics of the artist.
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  Speaker 3: I agree with it, especially me. That's the money, you
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  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: So for people to you know, frown upon or down
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  Speaker 4: upon the songwriter.
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  Speaker 3: Nah, that's the that's the first step for disaster.
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  Speaker 4: Honestly, Like you got to get a professional songwriter to
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  Speaker 4: give you a professional song.
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  Speaker 2: What's one song you gave away you didn't want to
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  Speaker 2: or that came out here and it was like ship,
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  Speaker 2: I shouldn't knew I shouldn't.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I think my favorite vibe that could have
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  Speaker 4: actually fit for me was let Me See Usher featuring
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  Speaker 4: Rick Ross.
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  Speaker 5: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 3: Hey you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: The club song with the falsetto like that was the
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  Speaker 4: That was a contrast that was just dynamic.
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  Speaker 5: And I just learned something I did not know. You
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  Speaker 5: wrote that. That is my ship.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, but it makes so much because I feel like
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  Speaker 9: all writers there's like a brand of sound that if
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  Speaker 9: you're good, we can hear.
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  Speaker 3: And be like Eric, I recognize that pin was.
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  Speaker 8: That part of the Were you talking about Tory Lanez earlier?
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  Speaker 3: No, I was talking about Nicki Minaj.
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  Speaker 8: Oh okay, because I'm.
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  Speaker 9: I know even Tori had a thing too, But it
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  Speaker 9: was over the song and like the tag and the
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  Speaker 9: vibe favorite song.
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  Speaker 3: When he did it, I was just like, hey, look, hm,
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  Speaker 3: bro didn't like that. I said, hey, look what.
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  Speaker 1: Was what was nick mister?
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  Speaker 3: It?
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  Speaker 1: What was Nikmi?
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  Speaker 9: Mina was mad at So it was back in twenty fourteen. Right,
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  Speaker 9: she claimed, uh, a very long time ago. So Nicki
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  Speaker 9: Minaj and Eric had a dispute on social because you
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  Speaker 9: had said that in different interviews that you co produced
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  Speaker 9: her hit single in Dakonda Innakonda, and she didn't like
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  Speaker 9: that because she's known for her own pen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think she was just trying to dad it because
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  Speaker 4: she didn't want people think I was writing her bars.
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  Speaker 3: But I was on the protection side. Yeah, it's what
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  Speaker 3: it is.
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  Speaker 7: Eric, tell you something that's not one to claim. Okay,
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  Speaker 7: that's been cool. You want to be cool arguing over.
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  Speaker 3: But my section was that my ad don't.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I'm like, hold on, you should slip
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  Speaker 4: the sample like this, this is the arrangement, throw this
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  Speaker 4: baseline on it.
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  Speaker 3: It was I involved myself with.
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  Speaker 1: I hated that record too.
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  Speaker 8: She said, you was thirsty for attention. That's why you.
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  Speaker 4: Because I posted it. Everybody I looked and the other
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  Speaker 4: producers posted it. It was like, okay, this is the way.
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  Speaker 4: This is a tiny post. Were excited about the ram, right, you.
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  Speaker 5: Know how many bitches my an I kind.
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  Speaker 1: Of don't.
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  Speaker 3: That whole little thing.
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  Speaker 8: Did you have an official credit on a song?
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  Speaker 3: Nah?
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  Speaker 4: It just got real ugly. It's like, Noah, he's not
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  Speaker 4: involved on that song. I said, but I am though.
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  Speaker 1: Why are you man of God for protecting you?
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  Speaker 3: That's crazy? Jesus Christ s Nazare.
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  Speaker 4: We're talking about what happened, and I'm explaining it. If
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  Speaker 4: I work on a song, I work on a song
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  Speaker 4: my pub and don't dot me wrong.
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  Speaker 7: Did you get paid negatives like I'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: It's like, I just like, so you just left it.
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  Speaker 9: I'm good you're getting money because regards of it, like
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  Speaker 9: that song and not that was a big song for her.
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  Speaker 3: I'm good it was exactly.
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  Speaker 7: I'll tell you one day, I didn't realize you was
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  Speaker 7: independent because I mean, hearing your name for so long,
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  Speaker 7: I never even thought about it.
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  Speaker 1: I never when you said that, I.
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  Speaker 9: Felt like I knew it because I always felt like,
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  Speaker 9: why isn't why don't you get certain things? Like I
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  Speaker 9: feel like people in the industry themselves, not the labels
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  Speaker 9: look out for you, like they put you in places
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  Speaker 9: like you whose siney DES's where you did you do
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  Speaker 9: with Usher?
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  Speaker 8: Usher?
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  Speaker 5: Yes?
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  Speaker 9: And that was like a big moment. He made sure
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  Speaker 9: he gave you like love there like the artist. You're
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  Speaker 9: like an artist artist, they love it, but when you
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  Speaker 9: drop your music, I feel like, sometimes we don't know
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  Speaker 9: what's happening.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think for me a lot of the project
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  Speaker 4: being independent.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, I'm an artist, I'm a songwriter.
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  Speaker 4: But on the business side, I might not have known
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  Speaker 4: the proper channels to plug everything in. So it was
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  Speaker 4: like it kind of could have gotten missed by a
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  Speaker 4: gang of people. But the people that were tapped in
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  Speaker 4: was like, what's going on? The music is crazy, but
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  Speaker 4: I'm not seeing it where I was supposed to see it,
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  Speaker 4: And it was like, oh, I don't even know. It
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  Speaker 4: was supposed to be over there. I was supposed to
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  Speaker 4: be at the studio and I was there.
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  Speaker 6: So music always been your passion because you turned down
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  Speaker 6: USC football scholarship.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, to go and do music.
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  Speaker 5: But it was real nice in football.
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  Speaker 4: I was nice in football. I need you try to
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  Speaker 4: go to a YouTube dop car you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody was highlights because.
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  Speaker 4: People were like, yeah, right, yeah, your boy was nice
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  Speaker 4: out there. I was running back and yeah, and kickoff
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  Speaker 4: return specialists like get that ball up there, we out
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  Speaker 4: of here.
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  Speaker 3: He was gonna say running back, yeah, because of.
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  Speaker 8: His height and his.
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  Speaker 5: Running back.
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  Speaker 9: But I only know that because I used to work
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  Speaker 9: in real sports at State. I remember who don't matter. No,
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  Speaker 9: I used to work like during that time. I worked
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  Speaker 9: at the gym, so you would see the different players
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  Speaker 9: coming in and you I would have to check them
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  Speaker 9: in so I would know who was playing what, and
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  Speaker 9: I learned the shapes of the people.
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  Speaker 1: Ye are you like six kids?
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  Speaker 9: Not that song?
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  Speaker 4: I got some boots on today. Okay, I got the
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  Speaker 4: Princes Daddy's.
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  Speaker 6: So although you were really good at it, you were
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  Speaker 6: like nah, even with a nah.
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  Speaker 3: I got hurt.
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  Speaker 4: I got heard my knee was hurt in the All
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  Speaker 4: Star Game, the six o five All Star Game right
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  Speaker 4: before college. I also got a deal at the same time.
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  Speaker 4: I offered to sign to an Epic Records with Max Goose,
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  Speaker 4: and it was my first time really being introduced to
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  Speaker 4: music on a professional level like that, and I was
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  Speaker 4: just like, I'm willing to give it a shot.
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  Speaker 3: M know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: But you did sign the deal at one point.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, when I was like eighteen, I was in the
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  Speaker 4: R and B group though like B two K days.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, what's one line of music? And discreet tells artists
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  Speaker 7: about needing a major label.
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  Speaker 4: I think they make you think you need because there's
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  Speaker 4: just is so many things like I've learned now, I
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  Speaker 4: would have I would have keep been like, you don't
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  Speaker 4: need to deal if you ask me like a year ago.
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  Speaker 4: You know, this is my first deal I just signed
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  Speaker 4: and I'm seeing now like, oh.
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  Speaker 3: That's why, because everybody's just like, what's going on? Why
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  Speaker 3: you're not old?
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  Speaker 4: Because I didn't have people working the DSPs properly, and
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  Speaker 4: I didn't have people that had relationships at Apple and
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  Speaker 4: Spotify and now.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: It's a difference when the radio station hears from a
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  Speaker 4: major label and says we need you to play this
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  Speaker 4: Eric Belencher song, or we need you to take this meeting,
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  Speaker 4: then me and my team that you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 4: we building calling being like hey.
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  Speaker 3: I can talk me in online one. You know what
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  Speaker 3: I mean.
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  Speaker 4: It's just it's just different, and I'm experiencing both sides
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  Speaker 4: now so I could appreciate the nose that people were
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  Speaker 4: giving me so that I can now just really hear
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  Speaker 4: it's this joy of the yes.
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  Speaker 9: The song on the project when you talk about experiencing
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  Speaker 9: the nose and all that stuff right in that song
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  Speaker 9: you talk about like how you felt like it was
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  Speaker 9: almost like a protective thing. You ever regret though, sometimes
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  Speaker 9: like are you ever sitting like dang? But if that
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  Speaker 9: was a yes, I would be right here, like is
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  Speaker 9: there ever any regretting? Haven't accepted now?
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  Speaker 4: No, because my mental now is like prepared now, I'm ready.
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  Speaker 4: I think everything before was Eric Bellinger the flesh wanting
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  Speaker 4: it now, but now it's like, okay, Eric Bellinger, the man,
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  Speaker 4: ready for it.
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  Speaker 5: That's why the name of the record is thank you
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  Speaker 5: for telling me?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I know, yeah, them bars, them words is
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  Speaker 4: everything found out. Your rejection was my protection. It's such
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  Speaker 4: a blessing, you know. That's the Every song is on
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  Speaker 4: that energy.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: I completely agree with that.
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  Speaker 7: That's why I don't triple over nothing that doesn't happen,
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  Speaker 7: you know for me, because it.
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  Speaker 1: Clearly wasn't meant for me. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: And I always feel like you get way more nose
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  Speaker 7: in life than yeses.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, But you just need that one yes to change everything.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody tells us that I like that, which you just said.
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  Speaker 4: It's like you get more nose and yes, it's y'all right,
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  Speaker 4: It's cool. But we just only want to hear yes.
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  Speaker 4: But just know that them nos gonna come with it
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  Speaker 4: like basketball shots. They know they ain't gonna make every
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  Speaker 4: shot that's right, them boys that go in, yeah, is
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  Speaker 4: the one that's on.
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  Speaker 1: How many times have you said no?
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  Speaker 2: Like if all this asked to work with, you just
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  Speaker 2: didn't feel a vibe, didn't feel rare, rare, rare.
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  Speaker 4: Just yeah, I'm just like kind of honing in on
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: I gotta I can't right now. But my whole thing
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: has always been due for others, as is you wish
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: to be done unto you.
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: So I'm treating everybody like I got you. If I
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: can't do it, I do it. You know what I'm saying.
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: I got If I can't, I got you, And I
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: just will always overextend myself to just try to make
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: it happen. And in my mind, I was playing seeds
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: so that when that favor came around, people would be
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: willing to do the same. But once I started seeing like,
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: hey dog, so I'm about to be doing this, I
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: need you to hop on this joint or hey you
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: think I could, Like damn, they not really returning that
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: favor like I thought. So that was one reason that
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: made me just locking on myself.
• 15:15
  Speaker 6: It's successful your last two three years crazy, I've been
• 15:20
  Speaker 6: seeing you everywhere, but I've been with you and listening
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: to you and Fido for a long ass time.
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: I'm just so happy to see you, like yeah, right,
• 15:29
  Speaker 6: and actually getting up to where you where.
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: You want to go. But like you also, you lost
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: your mom years ago.
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and what did that put into perspective for you
• 15:42
  Speaker 6: to make you even keep going like this? Because that
• 15:45
  Speaker 6: wasn't a long time ago, right, you know, yeah three
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: years ago.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, no, that was like life changing. You know.
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: I think I focused so much of my time and
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: my energy and my love to my mom that I
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: didn't even realize it. But mentally, especially with her being sick.
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: She had sickle cell, so it was in and out
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: at a hospital a lot, and I always was like, okay,
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: now let's move you closer than me.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: Boom, that's one thing. Okay, now I could be the
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: one to take it to the DIALSTI to take to
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: the hospital. Boom. Now she got sick. Now it's like, okay,
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: let's put her in the home.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: Like I was just responsible for everything, and it was
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: like I just didn't realize it.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: But once when she passed, I was just like mentally
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: drained to.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: The point where I just was like, I don't have
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: nothing to do, and I don't want to do nothing.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: I don't care to do nothing.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: And so incidentally I had a tour that was already
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: playing like a month later, so she knew about the
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: tour and everybody knew, you know, But once she had passed,
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: I was like, am I gonna go on the tour?
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: Am I gonna cancel the tour?
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: And the way that I was feeling while sitting at home,
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: I was like, nah, I can't sit in this. So
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: for me, it helped to actually keep going. My fans
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: were so supportive of me, and they were the ones
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: that kept me filled, kept me preyed up, giving me
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: blankets with you know, pictures of me and my mom,
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: giving me mugs, giving me wind chimes, giving me all
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: of these things that just reminded me that you know,
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: she was always with me.
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: Does it still get hard for you at times? These
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: shows night after night? And you you know the song
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: for her too, just like you.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I wrote just like you just to thank you,
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: to like let everybody know, like man, I am who
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: I am because I always wanted to be just like you.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: So when people hear that, they're gonna they gonna get
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: a piece of me, and you know, and for their
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: mom because people that have heard it and their moms
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: are still here, they're like, yo, I sent that to
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: my mom.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: She loved it. So it's beautiful to still, you know,
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: be that rip in the ocean.
• 18:01
  Speaker 7: And have you given yourself a chance to grieve? Because
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: they always say staying busy as a response to trauma.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: I think so I agree. I agree. I don't even know.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I have yet.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: I think that although I am busy, it's like the
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: life of an artist.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: We got a lot more free time than people think.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It's a lot of hurry
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: up and wait. And in that time and in those moments,
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: I embrace that alone And especially in a hotel room,
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: it's like what all right, y'all goes to the hotel you.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Man, you know what I mean, it's you in the walls.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: So a lot of thinking and a lot of healing
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: takes place when I'm by myself.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: I enjoy that time the most. The hotel time yeah,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: because you don't really think about it. But when you're
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: on the road and you're in that hotel and yeah,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: you know, for me, my kids are home, my wife
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: is home, and everything shuts down.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: It's a balance.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: That's some of the best times ever. I could just
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: relax and just think, I agree.
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: So, how is your beautiful wife? I was gonna call
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: it your brother.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: She helps you, man, so she So that's the song
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: crying Friend of You, which is the single. It actually
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: stemmed from me feeling that safety net and feeling.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Like I could actually cry to her.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: And she not gonna weaponize it. She's not gonna judge me.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: She's gonna comfort me. She's gonna rub my back. She
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: gonna baby, I'm here, I got you, you know what
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: I mean. So I'm just grateful to have, you know,
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: someone that is for me. She on the flight right now,
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: she's finna be here, no coming to you.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right, good ones, I'm checking the flight. Ain't Now.
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: What's something marriage taught you that Dayton never could?
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: Because I know, I mean I think that I think
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: the marriage, when.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: You really locked in, you just don't worry word up.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: When you're not married, you ain't married.
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: Bron you you just ain't so whatever she did, if
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: it ain't no ring, And he was like, but we
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: had a commitment, where is it agible?
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Is it come with ink?
• 20:11
  Speaker 9: He's doing it because he says, because you gotta date,
• 20:18
  Speaker 9: you gotta date. He'd be forgetting that. He wasn't always
• 20:23
  Speaker 9: a husband, was a stupid friend who then grew up
• 20:26
  Speaker 9: and you know him.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: First, I just mentioned it, and I.
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: Don't because I know where you're going always be getting
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: on because she's not married, where you're going to go.
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: You can't just get in the relationship and straight get married.
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: You gotta get to know, get to the level.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: You gotta date with the intention, the chill. Otherwise it
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: just got to be I think communicated. I think if
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: the man or the woman lets the other person know, like, hey,
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: I'm not really trying to be in no serious relationship.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Person just got respect that.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: But even when people say that, sometimes they still be like,
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: but watch.
• 21:04
  Speaker 10: This right, watch this time, Like I did everything and
• 21:13
  Speaker 10: you still didn't change for me?
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: Like what hand me?
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: The people don't change for you.
• 21:18
  Speaker 8: People change when they for them, when they want to
• 21:20
  Speaker 8: for themselves.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Right, I agree, I.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Want to go back to you.
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: In the hotel room, right, is that the moments where
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: you realize you can't run from yourself. Yeah, you're dealing
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: with gonna always catch up.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Yep, for sure. That's that's one.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: And a plane, that airplane when you're just chilling, you quiet,
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: you try to go to sleep, but after a while
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: you up, You're like, all right, I gotta just sit
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: here and face those things. The gym is another one.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Yoga. I love yoga and like even on a treadmill running.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: Give yourself thirty minutes on that boy, just get up there,
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: you know, and all of those times it's like not
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: only working out physically, but it's also mental.
• 21:58
  Speaker 9: That's all you're talking about, how black men should feel
• 22:00
  Speaker 9: more empowered to dive into like their grief and their
• 22:03
  Speaker 9: mental health.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think mental health is just slept on. Like
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: everybody is just tough. We're just tough, no matter what
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: you know. I mean, the lazier is tough, the phallas
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: is tough, and it forces us to put, you know,
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: push things under the rug. Like we don't actually go
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: to therapy, we don't actually do those things. I'm actually
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: into sound bowls and the sound healing and the vibration body,
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: like it really feel crazy. And that's such another thing
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: that nobody is talking about, like, but it should be normal,
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: like float baths.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know if people know about that, but yeah,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: when you can.
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: Actually yeah, you're talking about the floating tanks.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: Floating tank.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: You know how they got Egypt where you could like
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: lay but they got them Like here, what does.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: That do for you me? It gives you, like because
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: it was very hard for me to medic.
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: I did that years ago, but it was very hard
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: for me to meditate because I could never get my
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: brain to be quiet with.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: That float tank. When you finally.
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: Just let go because you gotta gotta you gotta let go,
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: right you got you know, you're jumping like oh, but
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: then you find let go.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I felt like I don't know, I don't know where
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I went, like when the light came.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: Back, and I'm like, oh, it's that let go.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: You only know if you if you do it, because
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: your body actually like what you mean, it's just no,
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: you have the end of your backlow key go a
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: little bit more because there's nothing.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: It's like, oh my back cracked. When I was like
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: I just laid down in the water and floated in
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: the backs head.
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: I was like, Oh, it was just you gotta trust
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: the salt.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Trust the salt.
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: So you do a lot of therapeutic hip.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my vibe. I need to massage often, please
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: once a week. Shrooms for sure. Chocolate vibes, yeah, only
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: choclate vibes.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: You know, the first time I actually tried to plant
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: joint me and my wife Beyonce concert.
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: Why would you? Why would y'all do that?
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: I was like, beyond was flying. It was a rope.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: I ain't seen no rope.
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: No.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: It was such a small dosage, but it was enough.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: It was enough. They say that micro is enough. It
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: is gang. You don't need too much.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: When you find somebody you can shrim with, that's beautiful
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: because a lot of parts that me and my husband
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: streaming together.
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: That's a whole vibe.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: That you go to therapy as well.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a couple therapy that too. I think that's like
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: that really made it to her. It's like, all right,
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: were married forever?
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: What mad y'all go there? You know what I mean?
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: I think it was just time, you know, it was
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: things happening that like we started arguing about little things
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: and for me, I was always like, yo, we should
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: never argue. Everyone to argue, you never have to argue,
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: and she was like, we gonna argue, yeah.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: But I was like nah.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: And then once it started happening, I was like, oh,
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: it's been year, three, year, forty or seven, you know
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: what I mean, You're eight and I'm like, okay, what
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: is happening.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: I don't even know what's going on.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: So we got referred to this dude and we just
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: started having these like zoom sessions with him, to the
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: point where it.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: Was an hour. And when that hour came, he was like,
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: all right, y'all, I gotta go.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: If we was boo crying, if we was no matter what.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: Bro was like, alright, I'm out, and I was like,
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So it was crazy because
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: during those times he would pull so much out of
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: me that I wasn't necessarily thinking it was her time,
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: but that was her time to learn.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: I'm just getting it out.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: But then when it's her time and now he's asking
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: her questions and I'm listening, she's talking, but I'm like
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: I'm learning about her.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, you know what I'm saying?
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: Finding different like the trauma points when they first started, like, oh.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: That's why she's like that, That's why she does this.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: She's the older sister, or she her dad wasn't there,
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: or she's overcompensating, or you know what I mean. So
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: when I got to understand her, it just allowed me
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: to just give her so much grace in every area,
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: and I think vice versa her from me.
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: Was that the hardest season of your marriage that people
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: never got to see?
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Definitely?
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because for sure, for the longest I was like, well,
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: you know, therapy, like I'm smart, you smart.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: We love each other, we respect each other.
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: Smart, smart bear, you know what I'm saying.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: So after we would you know, get our things off,
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: and we would still like be on silent mode. I'm like, oh, yeah,
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: I don't like this energy, so let's see if we
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: can get some help. And he did to the point
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: where after a while I was like, are.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: You good, I'm good?
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: You good?
• 26:51
  Speaker 9: Gang?
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we good because that bill crazy listen like you
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: paying like a bout fifty hours m M Part three hundred.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, it was crazy. Yeah.
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: I think it was like, now, now I know that
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: makes you happy that niggad be.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Like all right, I was, you know, it was a
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: package deal. I think when we got to eight, we
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: got to eight or teen, I was like, it was like,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: you want to renew. I was like, babe, go, I
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: understand you. I know why you're you. Yeah, and you
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: know why I'm me.
• 27:30
  Speaker 8: Is the closure on your on your project? Is that
• 27:32
  Speaker 8: a personal story.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Or is that personal story personal story?
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: When I, you know, linked up with my wife, like
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: when we reconnected, we had known each other for a
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: long time, like since I was in the R and
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: B groups and she was in isis. We have the
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: same manager, so a long period of time has separated
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: since then. But me and the girl that I was
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: with at the time was like, let's take a break.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: This ain't really coming together. Let's take a break for
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: a second. During that time just warring you off. You
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: take a break, just be prepared, because I didn't expect
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: that to happen. But yeah, I linked up with my
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: baby Boo Maya and I was out of there.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: I didn't go back. I didn't go back. I lost
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: the key, I lost the addie.
• 28:19
  Speaker 8: So you said she found out on the internet though.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because the baby shower. But I'm saying she found
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: out about the baby she found out about. Wasn't with
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: each other, He wasn't with each other.
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: It was a break, nigga, No, that was a break.
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: Were you still like he was with he just was
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: over there. But the rules of the break though, likeation.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Let's take a break. I don't this ain't really I'm
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: not feeling this.
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: Right now right now. A break that means I'll be back.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: How long was the intention was to go back?
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: How long was the break down?
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: You're tripping down?
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: I would say about three weeks later? Three weeks yeah,
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: but we was together like boyfriend and girlfriend.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: When when did she get pregnant?
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Your wife? Yeah? A year later?
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, I was like that you started rolling.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: In three weeks. I'm just saying it was the whole thing.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: Like she found out on the internet about the baby,
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: but she knew that that was my girl.
• 29:23
  Speaker 8: Why did she feel the titled have to know that
• 29:24
  Speaker 8: you was about to have a baby.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: I don't even know she felt entitled. I'm just saying,
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: just have some questions. Just have some questions.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Are all just dating, you know what I'm saying.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: You end up with your soulmate, and I love that
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: because I love the thing.
• 29:38
  Speaker 9: That song I feel like I was listening to the confused.
• 29:42
  Speaker 9: I'm like, I've never heard of any scandals with him.
• 29:44
  Speaker 9: Where did this come from?
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: I didn't know about the past.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Off, It's just like a past.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: You know, just had somebody you're dealing with, and then
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: you start dealing with somebody else.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: But just.
• 29:54
  Speaker 8: Ask your question, because.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I know you three weeks.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: Said something you were saying.
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: He said that Shorty knew that you that that uh
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: Ma Mayah was your girl. But how she knew that
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: she was your girl when when she was a girl
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: and all was on a break because you aren't feeling
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: that ship right now?
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: No, I told Ma, I don't got a girl.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: The boat.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: But it was like I didn't say a yo. I
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: don't think this should continue. I think we should like
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: stop this and completely break up. It was love peace.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: I didn't do that.
• 30:34
  Speaker 9: No, we know because said break, I'll be back in
• 30:36
  Speaker 9: a second.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be right back.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: But you didn't say I'm gonna be right back.
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: No, No, he just said I'm not now. But you
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: know how it is if Shorty wasn't ready to take
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: the break, and that's how you and that's how you
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: presented like right now.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Are you still call the house?
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: He definitely didn't call him.
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: He left when I said he wasn't feeling that ship
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: right now. He left the house and went to see
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: baby Boom.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't. I didn't.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: You did, and then walked off your job. That's technically
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: what he did. He took a breaking his left. He
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: was like, I ain't coming back, but see didn't in
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: the two weeks not serious?
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: How long was you in the old Girl together?
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Two and a half.
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: Years and a half?
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: What weeks?
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Years?
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: Come on?
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: Brought the job?
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: It was, I get wrong even and a half. I
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: can't trying to tell you there we go.
• 31:33
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, I get it, but I just was
• 31:36
  Speaker 9: surprised to hear that there wasn't a clean break like
• 31:38
  Speaker 9: I've always known you to be, like, well.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: On the maya I thought it.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Was I've always known it.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: I don't know when you just said, was she like
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: ready for the break?
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: That's probably why I felt like, because yeah, I was
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: mentally like yo, I could even been using that as
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: an excuse. Maybe maybe I wasn't just mad enough to
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: be like, hey, for sure, I'm out, because that cared
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: the feelings were real.
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: All you had to do was singing to a nigga.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Here go the song I saw. I say, it been
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: like ten years now.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: We got to start it off like this is a
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: long time ago and there was no closure.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Do you still see them?
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Have you spoke to him? Yeah?
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Because now we're be in l A, so l A
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: is like maybe at a party.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Like you about to go live, right, I've been waiting on.
• 32:22
  Speaker 9: This, like the song, and I'm like, well, who did
• 32:28
  Speaker 9: he do this to? Because I ain't Nobody never came
• 32:30
  Speaker 9: out and saying nothing like you.
• 32:32
  Speaker 8: It was very much usher.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Confessions, your confessions. I think it was just such a
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: such a tour.
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, it's making sense, makes sense all the.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: Different.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: I get it. I just I just had to put
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: it in the song.
• 32:51
  Speaker 8: It all worked out, y'all.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Are I would have? So I'm happy, said you.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Know it, don't. I was there.
• 33:00
  Speaker 9: I was confused because I'm like, I've always just known
• 33:03
  Speaker 9: you and Lemiah to be together.
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm like.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Whom divine misdirection?
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: I agree?
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: I agree it was and then it was it was
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: a moment in a session where the producer harmony, you know,
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: it was like, yo, I think we should, did you
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: know what I mean? So it's collaborative as well, you know,
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: like what about the past? Is there any song for
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: the past that.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: We can make? You know what I mean? And I
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: was like, it wasn't my idea, but it was my execution.
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: Now yoh, speaking of marriage, right with your with the
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: tour the new album, A dad of two boys?
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: How do you and.
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: Lmija even get to protect your time to spend together
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: because she is on her acting.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she's you know, making sure everything is on point
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: at home even if she's not there.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: She's a routine specialist. That is a delegation specialist.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: And that's what I'm saying, Like she on the way
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: here now, So we make that time. We just make
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: the time at home. It's like we low key working,
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. The kids the weekends they
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: play sports. It's a different football. Yeah, fill the job.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: So we just be sure to make that time. Like
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: you know, you make the time.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: When you want to do it?
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Is that what keeps you grounded?
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: Making the time and as well as like we were saying,
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: the balance, because.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: It is healthy to be able to clear my mind
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: because now I miss you.
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: You know, was there a moment where like success stopped
• 34:30
  Speaker 7: being something you chase and started becoming something you stewarted?
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: I think I always been on go, just no matter what, not,
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: not always for myself, but maybe if I'm not working
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: for myself and now I'm on the songwriting hat, you know,
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: or if I'm not songwriting now I'm doing the label
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: CEO back is I got a label when we got
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: fifteen artists, you know that we're nurturing and distributing and
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: artists developing, So you.
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: Know what I mean, I ain't really got that out now,
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: So that's.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: Great, Like, let's let's rebuild the entire structure of what
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: is expected.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: And I'm just like, Yo, I'm standing a gap. I'm
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: gonna be that, you know what I'm saying. Heavy as
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: the Crown.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: The joint on the album is talking about it as well,
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: and it's something that I just like honed in on
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: and I feel like I'm like wearing it proudly, like yo, or.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Being on Chris Brown and Usher tour.
• 35:27
  Speaker 7: Right, A lot of women, Yeah, how do you stay
• 35:29
  Speaker 7: disciplined when temptation is literally part of the job description?
• 35:33
  Speaker 7: I mean, I know, black men don't cheat. But I'm
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: just saying that for sure. How do you stay disciplined?
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's more work than people understand.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Like you got to go looking for it.
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: I don't think nothing is shown up at your doorstep
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: without an invitation.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: I agree, you know what I'm saying.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: So when I go to do my set, boom, I'm
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: back to my green room. After I do a meet
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: and greet, boom, you get the seconds of me being
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: with you and for sure giving you my awe right
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: after thank you.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: I appreciate you.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. Yeah.
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: Now the moment when I pulled the girl up on stage, right,
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: the one who who's everybody say that she ain't want
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: to be up there whatever.
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: You always out there all that time? Or no?
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: All right?
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, So what you think about that? Because she she
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: came up there, although she.
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: Didn't want to feel on the you know, sweat, you know,
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean, She still came up there.
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: She wanted to be seen and everything.
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: But a lot of people gave her backlash because she
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: didn't really get up there and draw hump them leather pants. Right,
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: you know understand what I'm saying, Like, do you feel
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: like she was wrong or it's just like, Yo, everybody
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: ain't gotta be up there, you know what I'm saying.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: I don't think she was wrong. I don't think she
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: was wrong.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: I think it could have just been you know, he
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: maybe adjust her, adjust to her taste level, you know,
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: like maybe sit down.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: Like dollar back, Yeah, climbing on top.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: Of me, Like don't it don't got to be that.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: But I mean, at the same time, it is one
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: of them, like we're here for a show. You know
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: what Chris Brown is doing.
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but that's what she came up there for. Here
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: come usher ass. She came up there for Chris.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: I think no, But I'm just saying, you know what
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: Chris Brown is doing, So we got to compete a
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: little bit.
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but see she wanted to be up dead for him.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: But Usher big, there's no way.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: There's no way she didn't know she was walking up
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: for us here because Chris Brown is on the right
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: side and USh was on.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: The left side.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: So she's on the left side. And it's just like,
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: was clear. I think she just the story changed five times.
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: She did.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: But the auntie got a story, she got a story,
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: The boyfriend got a story.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: She had a boyfriend.
• 37:42
  Speaker 8: The Auntie said she had I ain't need.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: Oh that's why she was on you. Why didn't you
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: even the story.
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: I didn't even know she had a boyfriend, honestly, I
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: thought that she just went up there and she was like, you.
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: Know what, Chris wanted to pull me up. I wanted
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: to be on Chris Big. You know what I mean.
• 37:57
  Speaker 8: She wanted Chris Brown.
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: So that's what our story.
• 37:59
  Speaker 9: That trick with the Auntie story, because Auntie was like
• 38:01
  Speaker 9: she was to the boyfriend into her son. But then
• 38:06
  Speaker 9: she did the TMZ interview and said, but I really
• 38:08
  Speaker 9: wanted Chris Brown.
• 38:10
  Speaker 7: That's what I said.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: We gotta let them.
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: Don't even worry about that question. I gotta know. So
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: Mario joined the lineup.
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: What is it like with all that R and B history, Mario,
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: it is.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Only four of them, Mario Tank.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I went to this Friday is his This last
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: Saturday was his official like they be for the rest
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: of the tour. But before that he did some spot
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: days like Detroit and things like that.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: But he had been shooting this TV show.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: So now he's done with that, and well all powers combined,
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: that's crazy.
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: Five of y'all powerhouse, Like what is behind the state,
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: like behind the scenes.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Like that's a lot of it's crazy.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: Were singing dressing room, were singing, We're doing vocal exercises together.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, you could do that, you know what
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. Were going back and forth, and it's really
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: a brotherhood that we've picked up that.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: I'm proud of us for doing, you know what I mean.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: I didn't know what to expect because everybody in their
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: own right is legend, so we all are students of
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: the game still. So I'm getting to see us, you know,
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: excited to piggyback off each other, like all right, I
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: heard that run you did it made me do this
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: or I heard you you know. And Chris is coming
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: back to the stage. I'm back to our room after
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: the shows and he's.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Like, hey, now I heard y'all keep going crazy, keep
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: you know, so we just keep it in each other back.
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: I just wanted to say, like egocause, like I said,
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: all of y'a is like five big as stars, legend usher,
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: you know what I mean. Chris Brown been in it
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: for a while, Tank Mario, yourself, and I like I
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: wish women could do that, like, we would have a
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: lot more tours if a lot of the R and
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: B women were putting old then new you know, they
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: should aside and just do that.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: I actually really love.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: That seeing that a lot more lately though.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: Vogue and uh WV did they do it together?
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah yeah.
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: But did they get upset with you when you was
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: on Cam Newton and you said fifty of the tour
• 40:14
  Speaker 7: they should give you fifty percent of the because fifty
• 40:16
  Speaker 7: percent of it is your pin Nah?
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: Because I think because he just said, what do you
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: think should for me?
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: I'm growing my songs?
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's it.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: I wrote them. I would not they ain't use them,
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: so I don't think.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: I think it's just like they know, you know, because
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: my my, my words always come with a smile too,
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: like I'm having a good time, like it ain't nothing personally.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: I think they all know.
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: And I'm not a ghost rider either, so they proud
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: to be like, bro, I know.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: You you done wrote some of the songs for me.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: They know it's like it's love both ways.
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: But I was real, you think that's what you think?
• 40:48
  Speaker 7: This tour is ushering Chris's way of doing the verses without.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Low key, low key, low key. It's a it's a
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: it's a moment where they go back and forth and
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: it's just.
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: Like, oh this fire yes, the blend that they did
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: with the songs, it is just like, damn, when is the.
• 41:06
  Speaker 7: Last time your ego, ego almost cost you something important?
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: My ego? M you know, almost is the key word.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: Almost is the key word.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: I remember when the label came at me and was like, yo,
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: we want to use We're gonna use Jeremiah on the
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: hook for on Chill instead of you. But but that
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: was like me and while A was excited, like oh,
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: because we got our relationship for real, like that's my bro.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: So man, I had to like chill, you know what
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: I mean? Because I love Jeremiah too. But I'm just like, man,
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: that was supposed to be my little window I noticed
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: is a smash and I just kept it cool. It
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: was like, let's take you to lunch. We're gonna throw
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: extra palette on the number, and I was like all right, y'all,
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: But I kept it cool.
• 41:58
  Speaker 8: The switch though, like why did they want to switch?
• 42:01
  Speaker 8: Like why did they put him on the Yeah?
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: I think I think Jeremiah a familiar superstar that you
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: know what I mean, has a proven history that has
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: a proof of concept, and it was maybe still a
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: gamble with Eric Bellinger on the hook so early in
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: my trajectory, but.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean, like I think it's if
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: you know, you know me.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: And while they got plenty songs together, we got five
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: six songs together. So with that one, it was like
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: I run it, go ahead, I support you, but I
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: was like.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: A credit card.
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah. And then I think Jeremiah he got simpler vocals too, yeah,
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: just like more simple.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, well you could catch him this weekend in New
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: York City Friday. Yes, Chris Brown Usher tour Eric belgim
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: on the stage, but I'm not trying to come. I'm
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: going to stay.
• 43:02
  Speaker 9: God.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: The only reason I will come on that stage is
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: the battle Chris Brown and dancing.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: New album man and.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: Titled eight twenty one. Thank you so much Man. This
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: is the breakfast club.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Eric Belinger is the breakfast club.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Good morning, hold
• 43:17
  Speaker 7: Up every day a week ago, click your ass up,
• 43:21
  Speaker 7: the breakfast club you finish for y'all done.