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Episode #3985 The New Phil Hendrie Show Radio Archive July 2004 · The World of Phil Hendrie

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Speaker 1: Hello, it's Phil Henry with another Radio Archive Hour from
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Speaker 1: our Radio Hall of Fame show and the world-famous Phil
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Speaker 1: Henry Show website, philhenryshow.com. This is a character named Paul McNamara,
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Speaker 1: kind of a generic guy that we invented because we
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Speaker 1: wanted a congressman to come on and talk about the
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Speaker 1: fact that he was into rent control. He had to
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Speaker 1: do rent control, I should say, because he owned a
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Speaker 1: lot of property. But the way to kind of make
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Speaker 1: that easier for him was he put people in these
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Speaker 1: rentals who would also be willing to do odd jobs.
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Speaker 1: So he would have a an elderly couple in one rental,
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Speaker 1: but he'd have them doing shirts, maybe trimming the bushes,
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Speaker 1: this kind of ridiculous stuff. He'd have another couple in
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Speaker 1: another unit and he'd have them, you know, scraping the
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Speaker 1: barnacles off the bottom of his sailboat. And naturally this
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Speaker 1: is all very usurious and just, it makes for, in
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Speaker 1: my opinion, some intriguing interchange. Well, let's listen anyway and
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Speaker 1: see if it did or not. It is Paul McNamara.
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Speaker 1: This is from July of 2004 on the world-famous Phil
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Speaker 1: Henry Show.
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Speaker 2: Paul McNamara joins me.
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Speaker 3: Mr.
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Speaker 2: McNamara, you're running.
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Speaker 4: For Congress in the 38th District, which is Santa Monica
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Speaker 4: and Malibu. And welcome to our program.
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Speaker 3: Always a pleasure, Phil. Thank you.
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Speaker 4: Tell me about what it is. You are really going
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Speaker 4: to be dealing with the rent control and rents. And
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Speaker 4: this is applicable no matter where people live in America. Renters,
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Speaker 4: how much they pay... how to deal with people who
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Speaker 4: are not homeowners necessarily and how they can deal with
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Speaker 4: the situation themselves, right?
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Speaker 3: Right, Philip. We live in very dangerous times, and people
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Speaker 3: need to appreciate what they have. And I don't see that,
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Speaker 3: and that's why I am running for Congress.
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Speaker 4: Now, you're running to represent the congressional district that encompasses
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Speaker 4: Santa Monica, Malibu.
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Speaker 3: That is correct. That's the 38th.
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Speaker 2: What business are you in?
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Speaker 3: I own rental property. I speculate in real estate, and
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Speaker 3: that's a good question because no one knows better than
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Speaker 3: me the pressures on property owners, especially those of us
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Speaker 3: who own rental property. You're paying a lot in property tax.
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Speaker 3: Dealing with renters can be a challenge.
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Speaker 2: Well, property management, so on and so forth.
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Speaker 3: Well, not only that, but one of the properties that
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Speaker 3: I own, is an apartment complex about four blocks from
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Speaker 3: the beach in Santa Monica. And I'll tell you, the
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Speaker 3: people that live there are getting a great deal. It's
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Speaker 3: a great deal. I'm happy for them. But at the
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Speaker 3: same time, I'm sort of laughing through my tears because
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Speaker 3: they're locked into their rents. And I mean, these places
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Speaker 3: that I rent, that I charge, I say to myself,
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Speaker 3: I almost resent it. You know, it feels like I'm
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Speaker 3: getting royally tooled.
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Speaker 2: Well, what are the rents that you charge?
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Speaker 3: Well, they go from $ 2, 000 to $ 3, 500 a month, and
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Speaker 3: it's a great price. I mean, a great price.
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Speaker 2: But you feel resentful?
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Speaker 3: I did. And then I decided that one of the
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Speaker 3: ways I can ease the sting of the property tax
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Speaker 3: and the low rent, and I think this addresses the
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Speaker 3: problem of people not appreciating what they have. It also
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Speaker 3: addresses the inherent problem of renters. And I'm not saying
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Speaker 3: that people that rent are not good people and hardworking people,
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Speaker 3: but they rent, which means they don't have the same
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Speaker 3: respect for the property that the property owner has. They
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Speaker 3: generally are going to come from a kind of an
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Speaker 3: income tax bracket that is not as appreciative of property.
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Speaker 3: And what I instituted about six months ago is something
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Speaker 3: that hopefully every landlord will institute. What I do is
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Speaker 3: in exchange for the great low rent that my tenants pay,
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Speaker 3: for a great location, and the fact and truth, they
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Speaker 3: don't really care about me and my problems.
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Speaker 2: Well, how far is your apartment complex from the beach?
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Speaker 3: We're about five, six blocks.
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Speaker 4: So in Santa Monica, six blocks from the beach, you're
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Speaker 4: paying $ 2, 500 to $ 3, 500 a month?
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Speaker 3: That is correct, and if you check around, that is
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Speaker 3: a steal. Now, I've requested from time to time that
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Speaker 3: my renters help me out. How? Well, I could be anything.
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Speaker 3: I've got a gentleman who is in one of our
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Speaker 3: lower units with a patio and a barbecue. He's paying
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Speaker 3: $ 2, 500 a month, which is, honest to goodness, Phil, it's
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Speaker 3: like stealing. And I've asked him if he could see
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Speaker 3: to getting my car washed, or if he wants to,
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Speaker 3: he can do it. One of my other tenants is
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Speaker 3: this gal with a son who I suppose is on
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Speaker 3: some kind of oxygen. I'm not familiar with the.
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Speaker 2: Is it cystic fibrosis? Do the kids have a problem breathing?
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Speaker 3: I believe that's it, yes. And the sea air is
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Speaker 3: good for him, and she's getting this great rent. But again,
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Speaker 3: what about me and the problems I'm dealing with? I
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Speaker 3: don't want this to be all about me, but she
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Speaker 3: gets to have this great rent and live there, and
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Speaker 3: I'm not getting anything. So I have suggested, for instance,
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Speaker 3: that she can do my shirts. There is another elderly
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Speaker 3: woman that I've suggested she come in and cook. Now.
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Speaker 3: It's very unusual, but it's a way of dealing, Phil,
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Speaker 3: with a problem we've had for a long time. Renters
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Speaker 3: who are getting away with paying very low rent in
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Speaker 3: beautiful locations, and the person who owns the property is
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Speaker 3: not exactly making the kind of dollar that he wants
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Speaker 3: to make. So I've suggested that simple ways that we
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Speaker 3: can all appreciate what we have and ways we can help,
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Speaker 3: in my case, the property tax.
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Speaker 2: All right, it's unusual. Are you campaigning on this?
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Speaker 3: Well, there's a variety of issues, but this is one
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Speaker 3: of them, absolutely. And I think it's important to know
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Speaker 3: that property owners, those of us who are landlords, are
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Speaker 3: able to, if we are going to be manhandled this way,
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Speaker 3: in these rents. We're not being able to charge more
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Speaker 3: rent than we have to get something in return, and
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Speaker 3: I think putting renters to work this way is a
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Speaker 3: great way of all of us appreciating what we have.
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Speaker 4: All right, Paul McNamara joins me. He's running for Congress,
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Speaker 4: the 38th Congressional District. He is suggesting that one of
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Speaker 4: the ways that property owners and landlords can get around
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Speaker 4: not being able to charge higher rents is that they
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Speaker 4: have their tenants.
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Speaker 2: do odd jobs, things like that?
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Speaker 3: It is a way of helping the landlord, the property owner,
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Speaker 3: which is me, help me maximize my dollar. If I cannot,
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Speaker 3: I'm going to be paying out, Phil, for a $ 3
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Speaker 3: million piece of property, something like in the neighborhood of
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Speaker 3: $ 25, 000 in property tax. And how do I get that back?
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Speaker 3: The renters, I think, can do these things. They can
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Speaker 3: do them once a month in a rotating business, whether
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Speaker 3: it is Coming in and doing some cooking for me
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Speaker 3: or taking my car in to get it serviced, even
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Speaker 3: if it's something as simple as standing in line at
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Speaker 3: the DMV.
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Speaker 4: We're talking with Paul McNamara, congressional candidate, on renters, people
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Speaker 4: that rent, rent apartments or rent homes, and how they
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Speaker 4: can help out the landlord or the property owner with
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Speaker 4: the enormous.
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Speaker 2: Property tax they're paying. It sounds to me like doing
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Speaker 2: odd jobs.
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Speaker 5: Yes.
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Speaker 2: Let me ask you something, Paul. How is doing odd
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Speaker 2: jobs for the landlord?
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Speaker 3: Primarily for the property owner, yes. This is not to necessarily,
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Speaker 3: they're not working for nothing. They're working for the property
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Speaker 3: owner who is getting absolutely axed by Uncle Sam. I mean,
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Speaker 3: it's as if Uncle Sam, I saw a film the
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Speaker 3: other night. I enjoyed it. And I didn't enjoy it
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Speaker 3: for the wrong reasons. I think it's an interesting Texas
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Speaker 3: Chainsaw Massacre. I don't know if you saw that or not. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I did. It's almost as if the federal government is
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Speaker 3: taking a chainsaw right to my face. And I can't
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Speaker 3: live this way.
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Speaker 2: Well, look, how specifically, Paul, does this help with the
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Speaker 2: property tax that you pay?
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Speaker 3: Well, as I mentioned, I pay $ 23, 000 on a $ 3
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Speaker 3: million property. That's a pretty steep number. So if I
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Speaker 3: can get my tenants to pitch in and help out,
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Speaker 3: it decreases not so much the money I pay, but
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Speaker 3: it decreases the aggravation of everyday life, getting shirts done
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Speaker 3: and this, so on and so forth.
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Speaker 2: But you're having renters do this. You say because they
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Speaker 2: aren't paying enough in rent?
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Speaker 3: Well, beyond that, this is something that if I'm fortunate
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Speaker 3: enough to be elected in the 38th congressional district race,
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Speaker 3: I can propose that renters begin to pay their share
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Speaker 3: and begin to conduct themselves in a manner that's more
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Speaker 3: like one who has ownership of the property.
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Speaker 2: So this is aimed at dealing with renters. Isn't this
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Speaker 2: kind of a traditional view that renters are, I don't
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Speaker 2: want to use the word scum, but isn't that the attitude?
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Speaker 3: Well, I'm not using that word either, Phil.
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Speaker 2: No, I'm not saying that you are, but that renters...
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Speaker 2: are somehow of a lower class?
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't even say that. I would say that renters
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Speaker 3: do not understand money the way those of us who
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Speaker 3: are property owners do. And renters have traditionally, on average,
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Speaker 3: paid lower rent than they should. Renters, because they do
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Speaker 3: not own, are high risk. They don't generally leave the
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Speaker 3: property in the best condition. They lack a sense of responsibility.
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Speaker 3: And by having them do different chores around the apartment complex.
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Speaker 2: Would this be a daily thing?
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Speaker 3: Well, it could be weekly. For instance, Tuesday could be,
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Speaker 3: you know, if you were one of my tenants, Tuesday
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Speaker 3: could be your day to clean the pool. The way
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Speaker 3: I do it, because most of my renters are elderly,
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Speaker 3: we have them on a weekly rotation, cooking my meals,
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Speaker 3: getting my shirts done, grocery pickup, picking up meat at
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Speaker 3: the butcher shop. I've got a dog that needs to
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Speaker 3: be walked.
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Speaker 4: You're going to get some argument that this isn't appropriate,
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Speaker 4: especially for elderly tenants.
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Speaker 2: You've got elderly tenants coming in and doing, you know,
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Speaker 2: your shirts.
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Speaker 3: Well, Phil, that's why I'm running for Congress.
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Speaker 4: But you know what I'm saying? It's something that elderly
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Speaker 4: folks who are retired and on a fixed income.
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Speaker 2: I think.
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Speaker 3: It helps them, though. If you take the average elderly
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Speaker 3: renter in the United States who is on a fixed income,
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Speaker 3: and you don't necessarily want to raise the rent on
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Speaker 3: that person, because I'm as much a liberal, I guess, Phil,
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Speaker 3: when it comes to that kind of thing as anybody...
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Speaker 3: but I'm not going to just sit there and take it.
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Speaker 2: Well, when you say sit there and take it, it's
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Speaker 2: the federal government that's taxing you. It's the state, actually,
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Speaker 2: that's taxing you.
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Speaker 3: Well, but again, someone is going to have to step
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Speaker 3: up to the plate, and if I can get one
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Speaker 3: of my tenants, one of the older people who can
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Speaker 3: take in some washing or something, this helps me out immensely.
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Speaker 3: I've got an accountant in my area who can do
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Speaker 3: some books for me. The elderly people don't scrub... I'll
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Speaker 3: tell you what they can do. I have a yacht.
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Speaker 3: It's not a yacht, but it's a sailboat, and it
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Speaker 3: does get a little bit of barnacle crustacean on the
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Speaker 3: bottom of it. If I can get one of these
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Speaker 3: folks to go down and scrub it off the bottom
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Speaker 3: of the boat... That would be great, but I don't
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Speaker 3: have them do that. I leave that job for professionals,
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Speaker 3: so it's not like I'm asking them.
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Speaker 2: Well, I don't see how an elderly man is going
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Speaker 2: to go down under a boat and scrub barnacles.
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Speaker 3: Off of it. I'm not saying that he's doing that,
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Speaker 3: but I'm saying it would be nice because it costs
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Speaker 3: an awful lot. But I relish a fight, Phil. That's
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Speaker 3: why I'm running for Congress, and I look forward to
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Speaker 3: the fight, and the issue is important. When are we
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Speaker 3: going to stop renters? And many of them are great people,
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Speaker 3: but when are we going to stop renters getting away
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Speaker 3: with murder?
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Speaker 4: Paul McNamara joins me. He's talking about renters and how
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Speaker 4: they are not paying as much in rent as they should.
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Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, he owns an apartment complex
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Speaker 4: four blocks from the beach, charging $ 2, 500 to $ 3, 500 a month.
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Speaker 4: I should have asked him how many bedrooms that represents.
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Speaker 4: But it is his feeling that rather than jack the
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Speaker 4: rent on a lot of renters, because some of them
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Speaker 4: are on fixed income, some of them are on, what
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Speaker 4: do they call it, Janice, rent limits or rent control,
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Speaker 4: that he would have his tenants do different jobs. He
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Speaker 4: mentioned doing his shirts, taking his car to the mechanic,
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Speaker 4: standing in line at the DMV, picking up his dry cleaning,
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Speaker 4: this kind of thing. This idea that he also owns
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Speaker 4: some kind of a sailboat, and it was his idea
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Speaker 4: to have one of the people scrub the barnacles off
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Speaker 4: the bottom of his boat, but most of these are
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Speaker 4: elderly people. Is it time for renters to start to
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Speaker 4: kick in and pay their fair share, or are they
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Speaker 4: not paying their fair share, or are they?
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Speaker 2: Phil Henry Show. The Phil Henry Show, when the truth
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Speaker 2: just isn't enough. The Phil Henry Show is back.
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Speaker 4: Rent control and whether or not it should exist. Rents,
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Speaker 4: are they too little? And are people who own property,
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Speaker 4: are landlords getting screwed? Paul McNamara is with us. I'm
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Speaker 4: not using language that you would use, Paul.
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Speaker 3: I don't think being screwed is the way to say it, Phil.
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Speaker 3: I think renters are... They don't know the damage they're doing, really.
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Speaker 3: I think they, because they rent, don't have a real
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Speaker 3: conception of property and property tax. I think they just...
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Speaker 3: In many ways, people who rent are like gypsies. But
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Speaker 3: let me move on to what we're excited about. For
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Speaker 3: renters to do... different jobs around the apartment complex, it
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Speaker 3: means that they are working off the good rent that
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Speaker 3: they're getting and they're helping out their landlord.
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Speaker 2: You're not giving them a rent break?
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Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't give them a rent break. They're already
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Speaker 3: getting a rent break. The rent that they're paying is
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Speaker 3: good rent. It's not difficult for, I've got a woman
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Speaker 3: in 3C, it's one of my apartments here, who is,
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Speaker 3: she picks up my girlfriend's dry cleaning once a week.
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Speaker 3: A gentleman over in one of our D complexes armor
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Speaker 3: all the leather seats. I've got a beautiful Porsche that
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Speaker 3: he will armor all the seats for me. There's an
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Speaker 3: elderly couple in I3 who shampoo the whole carpets. We've
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Speaker 3: got a young man, the little boy who has the
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Speaker 3: fibrosis that you were talking about.
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Speaker 2: Cystic fibrosis?
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Speaker 3: He is absolutely thrilled to pick the... He works and
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Speaker 3: gets the gum off the front steps. All of this
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Speaker 3: together means that renters are finally going to begin to
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Speaker 3: pull their weight, I guess, more than anything else.
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Speaker 2: I just can't possibly endear you to renters.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I don't think they've got a problem at all.
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Speaker 3: I think they're real. No. They understand. Well, it doesn't
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Speaker 3: matter whether it endears me to them or not, to
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Speaker 3: answer your question. I'm the one that has Uncle Sam
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Speaker 3: come to the door every year, and he's got a
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Speaker 3: smile on his face, and he's got a bottle of Luberderm.
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Speaker 2: 1-800-449-8686. Here is Tanya. Tanya, go ahead. You're on the
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Speaker 2: Phil Henry Show.
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Speaker 6: Hi.
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Speaker 2: Yes, Tanya.
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Speaker 5: I was just listening on the radio and everything, and
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Speaker 5: I understand that this man is running for congressman and
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Speaker 5: all this kind of stuff. I would just like to
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Speaker 5: say that I think that this man is a most
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Speaker 5: selfish person, first of all, because the elderly... They've already
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Speaker 5: put in their time. They don't need to have to
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Speaker 5: do your chores to help you out. Apparently, you have
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Speaker 5: plenty of money, and you've got a yacht and all
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Speaker 5: this kind of stuff. So why are you making older people,
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Speaker 5: you know, have to work your chores and do all
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Speaker 5: this kind of stuff? I think that is so unfair
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Speaker 5: of you that it just.
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Speaker 2: Paul, what do you say to that?
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Speaker 5: It makes me so mad. I would really like to
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Speaker 5: say more than I'm saying right now on the radio.
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Speaker 2: All right, Paul, what do you say to that?
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Speaker 3: Well, let me just step in, Tanya, and say don't
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Speaker 3: be swayed, Tanya. I know I'm like you. I start
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Speaker 3: to feel sorry for a lot of these elderly people,
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Speaker 3: but believe me, they've got the last nickel that they ever,
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Speaker 3: you know, they got the first nickel they ever made.
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Speaker 3: And we like to say they got the short arms
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Speaker 3: and the deep pockets. Don't feel too sorry for a
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Speaker 3: lot of these people. They pretend like they're eating cat food.
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Speaker 3: and this kind of thing, and who knows, late at night.
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Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no, no. Let me interrupt you,
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Speaker 5: first of all.
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Speaker 3: Yes, ma'am.
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Speaker 5: You are a very selfish person.
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Speaker 3: No, ma'am, I am trying to make a.
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Speaker 5: If you need to have elderly people that are trying every...
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Speaker 5: that is on a fixed income, okay? My mother is
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Speaker 5: on a fixed income right now, and she.
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Speaker 3: Can't even get... A lot of them say they are.
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Speaker 5: She has to pay $ 150 for one little bottle of medicine.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's what they say.
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Speaker 5: And you're wanting these people to do your chores for you?
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Speaker 5: What kind of person are you?
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Speaker 3: No, ma'am, but here's the thing.
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Speaker 5: There is no way I would ever vote on you.
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Speaker 3: If they say they're on a fixed income, how do
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Speaker 3: you know for a fact?
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Speaker 5: I know a lot of these people are on fixed income.
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Speaker 3: Look, if you rented one of my apartments, I can
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Speaker 3: tell you, if you wanted to stay... What I would
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Speaker 3: want you to do is... I won't read from you.
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Speaker 3: All right, but let's forget about you.
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Speaker 5: I won't even vote for you.
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Speaker 3: Well, ma'am, I'm in the 38th Congressional District. I'd like
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Speaker 3: you to consider my candidacy because if, for instance, you
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Speaker 3: read it for me, or let's say your mother did,
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Speaker 3: it's not a difficult thing to pick leaves off the
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Speaker 3: roof in the eaves. You can do it. It takes
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Speaker 3: five minutes.
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Speaker 2: Are you saying you'd have this woman's mother picking leaves?
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Speaker 5: Are you kidding me? For elderly people, you know, you've
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Speaker 5: got enough money, apparently, that you're fine, okay?
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Speaker 3: Why don't you get off.
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Speaker 5: Your lazy butt, and you get out there and pick
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Speaker 5: up the leaves, and you pick up the gum off
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Speaker 5: the porches, and.
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Speaker 3: You do all that kind of stuff.
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Speaker 5: They've already did their due.
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Speaker 3: I've done all these jobs. What I'm saying is the
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Speaker 3: state of California is taking more than a fair share
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Speaker 3: of property tax from me. How do I make up
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Speaker 3: for that? If I can get a little boy who
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Speaker 3: is a beautiful little boy and I ask him to
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Speaker 3: scrape the gum off the steps or, you know. You're
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Speaker 3: talking about little boys.
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Speaker 5: You're talking about elderly people.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 5: They are on fixed income. And I'm telling you right now,
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Speaker 5: they can't even afford their medicines. Because congressmen are people
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Speaker 5: that want to be congressmen like you.
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Speaker 3: Ma'am, no, you're wrong. I think a lot of these people,
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Speaker 3: they fake eating cat food.
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Speaker 5: If you want to do something for elderly people, why
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Speaker 5: don't you get them where they can get Medicaid and
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Speaker 5: sick care and have them return some days to them?
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Speaker 3: I tie your mother to a safety rope. She would
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Speaker 3: not be in any danger. We get her to scrape
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Speaker 3: the leaves out of the gutters. You know what?
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Speaker 5: My mother is in a wheelchair right now. She can't
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Speaker 5: even go to the bathroom without willing herself to the bathroom.
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Speaker 3: That's what she wants you to believe, yes.
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Speaker 2: And she is on a six-week call.
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Speaker 5: She can't even afford her medicine right now.
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Speaker 3: We can hoist her up with pulleys.
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Speaker 2: Well, wait a minute. I want to find out. Are
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Speaker 2: you saying.
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Speaker 5: How am I sick?
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Speaker 3: Ma'am, I can tell you right now that a lot
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Speaker 3: of these elderly people fake it. Are you sure she
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Speaker 3: can't walk?
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Speaker 5: You know what?
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Speaker 3: Are you sure she can't walk?
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Speaker 5: You are such a bogus person.
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Speaker 3: Well, if I'm bogus, I can tell you this much.
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Speaker 3: Your grandmother, your mother, whoever you're speaking of, needs to
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Speaker 3: be checked out so that she's not manipulating her younger
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Speaker 3: people into feeling sorry for her. So this is what
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Speaker 3: I stand for. I stand now. I'm standing against these
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Speaker 3: elderly people that are faking it. All right?
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Speaker 5: You know what?
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Speaker 3: They pretend like they're eating cat food. That's probably tuna.
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Speaker 3: Who knows? They pretend like they're crippled, and.
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Speaker 5: They're doing cartwheels when you leave. If anybody voted on.
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Speaker 3: You to be a congressman, that would be out of
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Speaker 3: their mind. I hope you consider my candidacy of 38th Congress.
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Speaker 5: There is no way I consider you.
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Speaker 3: Ma'am, I appreciate you talking to me.
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Speaker 5: Actually, you know what I'm inclined to do?
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Speaker 3: What's that?
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Speaker 5: I'm inclined to go on a campaign to tell people
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Speaker 5: how ignorant you are.
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Speaker 3: Well, you call me ignorant, but you believe your mother's crippled, okay?
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Speaker 2: All right, Tonya, thank you. I just lost her. Are
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Speaker 2: you saying the old people.
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Speaker 3: You hear a lot of these elderly people say I'm
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Speaker 3: on a fixed income, okay? You hear a lot of
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Speaker 3: elderly people say they can't do this, they can't do that.
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Speaker 3: I think a lot of them are faking it to
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Speaker 3: get our sympathy. When we put them to work in
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Speaker 3: our apartment complex, I got a gentleman who's 83 years
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Speaker 3: of age, and I said to him, I said, Harley,
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Speaker 3: I want you, if you wouldn't mind, I'd like you
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Speaker 3: to do some painting around here. Because you know and
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Speaker 3: I know that you're not eating cat food. You're pretending
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Speaker 3: like you're eating out of a sheep again.
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Speaker 2: Phil Henry Show. The Phil Henry Show. Kittens are tasty.
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Speaker 2: The Phil Henry Show is back.
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Speaker 4: Paul McNamara joins us talking about his congressional run in
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Speaker 4: the 38th District. You are saying that renters need to
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Speaker 4: do more because they're not paying fair rent.
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Speaker 2: The landlords are getting screwed.
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Speaker 3: Well, again, Phil, I don't want to use the word screwed,
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Speaker 3: but I will tell you that we're not making... I think,
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Speaker 3: the fair monies we should. The state of California has
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Speaker 3: taken out of us. The federal government has taken out
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Speaker 3: of us. And the idea of doing this kind of
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Speaker 3: workfare where renters can do some odd jobs around the
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Speaker 3: apartment complex.
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Speaker 2: Well, you're talking about elderly people.
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Speaker 3: Well, I'm talking about many of our elderly who, I'm
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Speaker 3: not saying all of our elderly are like this, but
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Speaker 3: many of them are individuals who want to get your sympathy.
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Speaker 3: I'm on a fixed income. And I can tell you
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Speaker 3: right now in this idea that, you know, they're supping
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Speaker 3: from a can of Calcan. This is ridiculous.
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Speaker 2: Well, hold on for a minute. I've got Lloyd calling in,
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Speaker 2: who is a senior citizen. Lloyd, you live on a
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Speaker 2: fixed income?
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Speaker 6: No, sir, I'm not. I am a Korean War veteran,
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Speaker 6: and I'm retired. I live on my own pension, but
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Speaker 6: I wanted to direct my comments to this Mr. McNamara
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Speaker 6: if I could.
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Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
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Speaker 6: I don't know, sir, if you've ever seen a fellow vet,
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Speaker 6: and I don't know if you've served in the United
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Speaker 6: States military or not.
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Speaker 3: No, sir, it was not my honor.
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Speaker 6: All right, well, it was my great honor. And I
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Speaker 6: don't know if you know what it's like to see
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Speaker 6: a dear friend of yours answer the door wearing....
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Speaker 3: With a napkin.
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Speaker 2: Are you okay, sir?
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Speaker 6: No, sir, I'm not. Well, sir, I want to finish
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Speaker 6: what I'm saying. A fellow veteran of mine, Cal Jenkins,
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Speaker 6: who was on the Enterprise with me, answered the door
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Speaker 6: one day with a napkin in his collar... and he
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Speaker 6: had a can of tender vittles with a fork, and
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Speaker 6: he's looking at me like, oh, hi, Lloyd, how are you?
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Speaker 6: In other words, he didn't even know that what he
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Speaker 6: was doing was an abomination. And if you could check
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Speaker 6: the protein value on tender vittles as opposed to Sheba,
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Speaker 6: you could.
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Speaker 2: Well, are you saying your friend should have been eating Sheba?
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Speaker 6: No, sir, I am not, but I'm saying... That the
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Speaker 6: situation money-wise was so... Well, I'd like to jump in here, Phil,
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Speaker 6: if I could.
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Speaker 3: No, sir, I want to make my point. No, I'd
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Speaker 3: like to jump in. You say your friend was eating
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Speaker 3: tender vittles. I don't know the nutritional. All I'm saying
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Speaker 3: is a lot of these elderly are faking it.
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Speaker 6: Well, I'll tell you, he wasn't faking it because that
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Speaker 6: was a candidate.
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Speaker 3: Oh, man.
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Speaker 6: If I could come over there right now, I'd make
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Speaker 6: you eat tender vittles right out of my you-know-what. Just
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Speaker 6: as if it was a chip bowl.
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Speaker 3: And I'll tell you... Well, is the caller there?
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Speaker 6: Yes, I'm here. But I'm so upset, Mr. Henry.
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Speaker 4: Well, look, the idea of seniors having to eat cat
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Speaker 4: food is absolutely a tragedy. the proportions of which I
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Speaker 4: can't even comment on that. And you're certainly right. We
22:34
Speaker 4: need to be able to help those people.
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Speaker 3: And I am proposing to help them, Phil. I am proposing.
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Speaker 3: I am asking them to clean leaves out of the gutter,
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Speaker 3: do some painting, and lay tile in my bathroom.
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Speaker 2: But you're not giving them a break on the rent.
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Speaker 2: They're laying tile in the bathroom.
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Speaker 3: But they get to live here. That's what I'm saying. Oh,
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Speaker 3: I get it.
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Speaker 6: So you're saying that because they can live there, that
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Speaker 6: they've got to scrape this... I suppose they've got to
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Speaker 6: go into your toilet... and wipe it to wipe the
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Speaker 6: bowl down.
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Speaker 3: Is that it?
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Speaker 6: Right after you've been to Mexico? I think you know
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Speaker 6: what I'm talking about, because it gets the little splash marks.
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Speaker 3: What happened?
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Speaker 2: It sounds like he slipped.
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Speaker 3: I think he slipped.
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Speaker 2: Hello? Is the caller there?
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Speaker 6: Oh, sweet God. Don't let me die now. I've got
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Speaker 6: more to say to this piece of crap.
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Speaker 2: Is the caller there? Are you there, sir?
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Speaker 6: Let me tell you something right now. I take kibbles
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Speaker 6: and bits over tender vettels any day. I went down.
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Speaker 6: I said, Carl, you hold on. I'm getting you kibbles
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Speaker 6: and bits.
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Speaker 2: What the hell?
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Speaker 6: Mr.
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Speaker 3: Henry, can I ask you a question?
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Speaker 6: Yes.
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Speaker 3: Is this some kind of a comedy show that I'm
23:52
Speaker 3: on because, you know.
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Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like it, doesn't it?
23:56
Speaker 3: Well, because that man doesn't sound real to me. He's
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Speaker 3: falling down the stairs twice. He's saying that, hey, why
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Speaker 3: don't you get some kibbles and bits instead of some
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Speaker 3: tender fiddles. I'm saying, Mr. Henry, that I don't believe
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Speaker 3: average senior citizens are getting up in the middle of
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Speaker 3: the night and saying, well, I think I'll go down
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Speaker 3: and grab a snack. Ah, look, Sheba gourmet tuna. It
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Speaker 3: ain't happening. And I'll, uh.
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Speaker 6: You know what, Mr. McNamara? I almost cried when I
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Speaker 6: said goodbye to Carl, and all he could say was meow.
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Speaker 6: And then I.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry.
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Speaker 2: You know what?
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Speaker 3: Don't hang up on me. I'm not doing shtick.
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Speaker 2: No, get out of here. All of you guys suck.
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Speaker 2: Ten minutes out of cat food.
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