Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / The Pam Bondi Congressional Oversight Committee Epstein Related Transcript (Part 1) (6/6/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Epstein Chronicles. So the Pam Bondie transcript has been released,
- 0:09and in this episode we're going to begin taking a
- 0:11look at what she had to say about her part
- 0:15in the ongoing Epstein cover up. Mister Emmer, we will
- 0:19go on the record. This is a transcribed interview of
- 0:22former Attorney General Pamela Jay Bondi, conducted by the House
- 0:26Committee on Oversight and Government Reform under the authority granted
- 0:30in pursuant to the House Rule X. According to the
- 0:34House Rule X grants the Committee broad jurisdiction for the
- 0:38Committee to conduct investigations of any matter at any time.
- 0:43This interview was requested by Chairman James Comer as part
- 0:46of the Committee's investigation into the circumstances and subsequent investigations
- 0:51into the crimes of Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell, the
- 0:55operation of sex trafficking rings and the ways for the
- 0:58federal government to effectively combat them, the ways in which
- 1:02mister Epstein and miss Maxwell sought to curry favor and
- 1:05exercise influence to protect their legal activity, and potential violation
- 1:10of ethics rules related to elected officials Can the witness
- 1:14please state her name and spell her last name for
- 1:16the record. Bondi sure, Pamela Bondi Bo and du Y
- 1:23Emmer thank you. My name is Jack Emmer and I'm
- 1:26the Chief of Council for Investigation for Chairman James Gomer.
- 1:30Under the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform rules, you're
- 1:33allowed to have one Council President to advise you during
- 1:36the interview. Do you have counsel representing you in a
- 1:39personal capacity present with you today? BONDI only as my
- 1:44when I was Attorney General for the United States, and
- 1:47that's har Meat Dylan. Another winner, another absolute moron, harm
- 1:51Meat Dylan Emmer. Will counsel please identify themselves for the record. Dylan. Yes,
- 2:00I'm Harmeat Dylon, the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights,
- 2:04and I'm here on behalf of the United States Department
- 2:06of Justice, as the former Attorney General was subpoenaed and
- 2:09disappearing here voluntarily in her official capacity only, and accordingly,
- 2:14I'm here to represent the interest of the DOJ and
- 2:17its interest in effectuating the Transparency Act, and solely to
- 2:20be here on behalf of the DOJ. I'm also accompanied
- 2:25by one of my colleagues, and he'll state his appearance
- 2:28as well. Mister Ginn, I'm Jonathan Ginn, Deputy Assistant Attorney
- 2:34General for Civil Division, and I'm here appearing in the
- 2:37same capacity as Miss Dylan. Mister Emmer, we have members
- 2:41of Congress here with us today. For the records, starting
- 2:43with the Chairman, can members please identify themselves for the record?
- 2:48James Comer, Chairman Kentucky, Mister Garcia, Ranking Member Robert Garcia,
- 2:54Congressman Sue has Submerennium, Yasimin and sorry, James Walkinshaw, Maxwell Frost,
- 3:04Melanie Stansbury, mister Emmer for the records. Starting with the
- 3:08Majority staff, Can the additional staff members please introduce themselves
- 3:12with their name, title and affiliation. Billy Grant, Deputy Chief
- 3:17Council for Investigations, Chairman Comer, Daniel Ashworth, General Counsel for
- 3:22Chairman Comber, Ryan Gaketty, Chief Council Chairman Comer, Ellison Tolan,
- 3:28Council for Chairman Comber, and the list goes on. We're
- 3:32going to pick back up with the conversation though, mister Emmer,
- 3:35thank you all. Attorney General BONDI, before we begin, I
- 3:38would like to go over the ground rules for the
- 3:40transcribed interview. The questioning will proceed in rounds. The majority
- 3:44will ask questions for up to an hour, and then
- 3:46the minority will have an opportunity to ask questions for
- 3:49an hour if they choose to the extent. Members have
- 3:53questions for the witness, they'll be propounded during their sides
- 3:57respective rounds. The clock will stop if you need to
- 4:00confer with counsel, your council speaking, and when members of
- 4:03staff are speaking. During the opposing sides rounds of questions,
- 4:07we will alternate back and forth until there's no more questions.
- 4:10Do you understand BONDI yeah, Emmer. There's court reporter taking
- 4:15down everything I say and everything you say to make
- 4:18a written record of the interview. For the record to
- 4:20be clear, please wait until the staff for questioning you
- 4:23finishes each question before you begin your answer, and the
- 4:27staffer will wait until you finish your response before proceeding
- 4:31to the next question. Further, to ensure that the court
- 4:34reporter can properly record this transcribed interview, please speak clearly, concisely,
- 4:39and slowly. Also, the court reporter cannot record nonverbal answers
- 4:44such as nodding or shaking your head, so it's important
- 4:47that you answer each question with an audible verbal answer.
- 4:51Do you understand BONDI? Yeah? Emmer exhibits may be entered
- 4:55into the record. Majority exhibits will be identified numerically, Minority
- 5:00exhibits will be identified alphabetically. We want you to answer
- 5:04our questions in the most complete and truthful manner possible,
- 5:08so we will take our time. If you have any
- 5:11questions or do not fully understand the question, please let
- 5:14us know. We will attempt to clarify, add context to,
- 5:17or rephrase our questions. If we ask about specific conversations
- 5:21or events in the past and you're unable to recall
- 5:24the exact words or details, you should testify to the
- 5:28substance of those conversations or events to the best of
- 5:31your recollection. If you recall only part of the conversation
- 5:35or event, you should give us your best recollection of
- 5:38those events or parts of conversations that you do recall.
- 5:41Do you understand BONDI yes? Question. Although you're here voluntarily,
- 5:47you're acquired by law pursuant the Title eighteen of the
- 5:50United States Code, Section one thousand and one to answer
- 5:53questions from Congress truthfully This also applies to questions posed
- 5:57by Congressional staff in the interview do you understand Bondy yes? Question?
- 6:03If at any time you knowingly make false statements, you
- 6:06could be subject to criminal prosecution. Do you understand Bondy yes? Emmer.
- 6:12This includes knowingly providing false testimony, but also stating you
- 6:15do not recall or remember something when in fact you do.
- 6:19Do you understand Bondy yes, Emmer. Furthermore, you cannot tell
- 6:24half truth or exclude information necessary to make statements accurate.
- 6:28You're required to provide all information that would make your
- 6:31response truthful. A deliberate failure to disclose information can constitute
- 6:36a false statement. Do you understand bond yes? Emmer. Is
- 6:40there any reason you're unable to provide truthful testimony in
- 6:43today's interview? Bondy no, Emmer. Please note that if you
- 6:47wish to assert a privilege over any statement today, that
- 6:51assertion must comply with the rules of the Committee on
- 6:54Oversight and Government Reform pursu into that committee. Rule sixteen
- 6:58C one states for the chair to consider assertions a
- 7:02privilege over testimony, your statements, witnesses or entities must clearly
- 7:07state the specific privilege be an asserted and the reason
- 7:10for the assertion, honor before the scheduled date of testimony
- 7:14or appearance. Do you understand, Bondy, yes, Emmer. Ordinarily we
- 7:19take a five minute break at the end of each
- 7:21hour of questioning, but if you need a longer break
- 7:24or a break before that, please let us know and
- 7:26we'll be happy to accommodate. However, to the extent that
- 7:29there's a pending question, we would ask you to finish
- 7:32answering the question before we take a break. Do you understand,
- 7:36bond Y, yes, Emmer. I would like to remind anyone
- 7:39here today that the taking of still photography and the
- 7:43recording of video of any part of today's proceeding is prohibited.
- 7:47Attorney General Bondi. Do you have any other questions before
- 7:50we begin? Bondy no, Emmer. Do you have an opening
- 7:53statement that you'll be reading into the record? Bond Y, yes, please, Emmer,
- 7:57you may proceed. Bondy, good morning. Before we start today,
- 8:02I want to reiterate what I've said many times regarding
- 8:05the Department's handling during my tenure as Attorney General of
- 8:09the voluminous materials that are now commonly known as the
- 8:12Epstein Files. I'm proud of the Department's record and commitment
- 8:16to transparency. Under my leadership, we demonstrated an unprecedented commitment
- 8:22to transparency in the department search for collection and review
- 8:26of the Epstein Files, producing nearly three pages of material,
- 8:30including thousands of videos and hundreds of thousands of images.
- 8:34These investigations span four administrations, dating back to the Bush
- 8:38administration and have gone on through the Obama administration, the
- 8:43first Trump administration, the Biden administration. The only time federal
- 8:47prosecutors were permitted to launch investigations against Epstein and Maxwell
- 8:52was when President Trump occupied the White House. Only under
- 8:56President Trump were three million Epstein related documents released. This
- 9:00was an enormously complicated and labor intensive process. To the
- 9:04best of my knowledge, the Department produced everything required under
- 9:07the Epstein Files Transparency Act. Our diligent and good faith
- 9:11effort to collect materials ensured that all potentially responsive documents
- 9:16that could be reasonably located would see the light of day.
- 9:20All Department components were directed to submit any potential responsive records,
- 9:25resulting in a comprehensive review of millions of documents. At
- 9:29the head of a large department with broad responsibility. I
- 9:32did not lead every aspect of this effort, nor conduct
- 9:35the document review myself. I delegated that oversight over the
- 9:40process to Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche. The team of
- 9:44professionals who were reviewed the material that we collected assured
- 9:47me the only material that were withheld were either non responsive, privileged,
- 9:52or duplicative. Although not required by the Act, the Department
- 9:56has given Congress access to unredacted duplicative material in the
- 10:00reading room in an effort to maximize transparency. There were
- 10:05redaction errors, but since day one of the process, the
- 10:08Department has been committed to accountability and transparency. Our stance
- 10:13has always been that the Department stands ready to review
- 10:15any potential evidence of criminal activity related to Ebstein and
- 10:19his associates, and would pursue the appropriate investigations or prosecutorial
- 10:24actions wherever the facts in law warrant. I would like
- 10:28to repeat what I shared before the House Judiciary Committee
- 10:31in February. I've spent my entire career fighting for victims,
- 10:35and I'll continue to do so. I am deeply sorry
- 10:38for what any victim has been through, especially as a
- 10:41result of that monster. If they have any information to
- 10:45share with law enforcement about anyone who has hurt them
- 10:48or abused them. The FBI is waiting to hear from them.
- 10:52The bottom line is justice and transparency in this matter
- 10:55have been delivered at the direction of President Trump and
- 10:58his administration. Thank you, mister Emmer, Thank you. We've had
- 11:03another member of Congress join. Can he please identify himself
- 11:06for the record, mister min Congressman Dave min Emmer. Attorney
- 11:11General Bondie, I just want to thank you again for
- 11:14participating in today's proceeding and for your years the public service,
- 11:18both to our country and the state of Florida. I
- 11:21want to recognize that you're currently undergoing cancer treatment, and
- 11:24I'll say that we will do our best to ask
- 11:26all the questions in the most efficient and timely way possible.
- 11:30So let's start by briefly discussing your education and experience.
- 11:34I understand that you've had a long career, but can
- 11:37you summarize it for the record. Bondie Sure. I went
- 11:41to the University of Florida undergraduate. I graduated from Stetson
- 11:44College of Law. I was a prosecutor in Hillsborough County,
- 11:48Florida for eighteen years. Prosecuting almost every kind of crime imaginable,
- 11:53from first degree murders all the way to domestic violence.
- 11:56I was Felony Bureau Chief there as well. I also
- 11:59be the Attorney General for the State of Florida, where
- 12:02I served for eight years, and then for the past
- 12:05year I was Attorney General of the United States. Question
- 12:09by Emmer, So let's talk about your time as Attorney general.
- 12:13You started in February of twenty twenty five. Is that correct? Answer? Yes,
- 12:17question by Emmer. And as it relates to Jeffrey Epstein, matter,
- 12:21when you assumed office, what was the DOJ doing? Answer
- 12:25when I assumed regarding Epstein Emer Yes, Bondie, when I
- 12:29assumed office, nothing to my knowledge and nothing had been released,
- 12:33and I don't know if it had been requested to
- 12:35be released. Emmer. Did you direct the Department to conduct
- 12:40a review of the Epstein and Maxwell investigation? Answer immediately,
- 12:44I mean within weeks of assuming office. Question can you
- 12:47describe for the committee what that looked like? Answer? Yes,
- 12:51I spoke to the FBI and we asked them to
- 12:53turn over all the documents in their possession related to Epstein. Emmer,
- 12:58and as far as the those documents What was the
- 13:01DOJ going to do with those documents? Bondy, provide transparency
- 13:06and release them to the public and the Congress, of course.
- 13:09Question by Emmer. And I believe you said that started
- 13:13immediately upon your assuming office. Is that right, Bondy, I
- 13:16believe within weeks Emmer. And as far as providing transparency,
- 13:20was there a specific timeline that you provided to the
- 13:23FBI to follow as far as releasing the documents? Bondi, yeah,
- 13:27it was prior to Director Bettel being confirmed. I believe
- 13:31when the process started and we received from the FBI
- 13:33approximately three hundred documents that were released. Emmer. And to
- 13:38be clear, you directed this internal review of the Epstein matter.
- 13:42There was no other review that was occurring prior to
- 13:44you assuming office. Answer not to my knowledge question. Also
- 13:49for the record, the Epstein and Maxwell investigation was considered
- 13:52closed upon you taking office answer to my knowledge yes.
- 13:56Question When were you first briefed on the Eptie Stein
- 14:00Maxwell matter? Answer by Bondi initially after we received again
- 14:04approximately three hundred documents and those were released, and I
- 14:08believe that was the tip of the iceberg, that that
- 14:10the FBI had not turned over all the documents. Director
- 14:14Patel eventually was confirmed, and I sent him a letter
- 14:17asking him to look into that and give us any
- 14:20other documents in the FBI's possession anywhere in the country,
- 14:23and ultimately we received much more. Question and for the record,
- 14:29who would have been briefing you on the Epstein matter
- 14:31as far as one you took office, Bondie Todd Blanche question,
- 14:37what specific concerns did the department have as it related
- 14:40to the Epstein and Maxwell matter when you assumed office?
- 14:44Answer that nothing was released And again to my knowledge,
- 14:47no one that spanned the Biden administration or previously had
- 14:51sought to release any of the information. And I believe
- 14:53it was within weeks of me assuming office that we
- 14:56asked for and demanded all these documents. Emmer, do you
- 15:01recall whether there were concerns that there was potentially unindicted
- 15:04co conspirators? Answer always yes. All right, folks, we're going
- 15:09to wrap up right here and in the next episode
- 15:11dealing with the topic, We're gonna pick up where we
- 15:13left off. All the information that goes with this episode
- 15:16can be found in the description box.