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Karl W. B. Schwarz Joins UK Column to Dissect the Official 9:11 Narrative — Part 2 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon to UK column viewers and listeners wherever you
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Speaker 1: are in the world. Welcome back to part two of
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Speaker 1: my interview with Carl Schwartz on the subject of the
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Speaker 1: events of nine to eleven and what was happening in
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Speaker 1: a geopolitical sense around that oil and gas exploration. But
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Speaker 1: also we have been talking about risks around the World
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Speaker 1: Trade Center buildings themselves, in particular in connection with asbestos.
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Speaker 1: So we move on through what's really a chronology leading
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Speaker 1: up to the World Trade Center events and post. But
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Speaker 1: one of the issues that you'd focused in on, Carl
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Speaker 1: was the security company, and I found this very interesting.
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Speaker 1: We've got a company called secure Coom Incorporated versus Secure
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Speaker 1: Com Consulting Incorporated. And the difference with Secure Consulting is
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Speaker 1: Com has got two MS. What was happening around this
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Speaker 1: court case? What was this battle about?
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Speaker 2: The best I can tell, once I got the full chronology,
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Speaker 2: Iron Allen, whose stratisect is we had, I think they
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Speaker 2: were used in secure Com, so nobody would know the
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Speaker 2: name STRATASEC and the hepotat up as long as they could.
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Speaker 2: They actually did their IPO in eighteen ninety seven, but
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Speaker 2: they were still they were still appealing and tied up,
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Speaker 2: tied this other company up all the way to two thousand.
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Speaker 2: It was like they did not want anybody to know. Oh,
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Speaker 2: by the way, the real security company for the World
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Speaker 2: Trade Center is STRATASEC, and they're registered in sixteen different states,
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Speaker 2: and it's where they're registered and all well, a lot
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Speaker 2: of those registrations also quite straight back at Anawa.
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Speaker 1: We've got a bona fide security company that's started from
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Speaker 1: quite small beginnings. It's it's established itself with a pretty
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Speaker 1: sizable business in the States, and then along comes another
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Speaker 1: company that chooses a name that's very close to it,
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Speaker 1: and that's that second company is the company that's then
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Speaker 1: ultimately involved in security around the World Trade Center. Is
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Speaker 1: that is that the number of it?
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, but if you if you dig deeper on
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Speaker 2: strata set, they actually pre date by years, even in
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Speaker 2: even in New Jersey, even in New York, they pre
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Speaker 2: date their use of the name secure count I hears.
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Speaker 2: So it smelled to me like this was a out
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Speaker 2: and that they didn't want anybody doing that. Stratisect was
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Speaker 2: actually the security.
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Speaker 1: And the reason that you and your team believe this
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Speaker 1: is so significant is ultimately, when the events around nine
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Speaker 1: to eleven took place. Who had access to the building
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Speaker 1: was a critical factor in what actually took place.
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Speaker 2: Exactly, and there were several players involved in that one.
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Speaker 2: There was Stratisect and then Otis Elevators lost the elevator
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Speaker 2: contract for maintenance and service on the World Trade Center
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Speaker 2: towers and incomes of company ACE Elevator, which was basically
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Speaker 2: had nobody And this was during the period of time
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Speaker 2: that everybody on my team thinks is when they were
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Speaker 2: actually wiring the building to bring it down by control
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Speaker 2: of demoition. Now this was not just done bombs. The
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Speaker 2: interior core that I mentioned earlier, or what was one
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Speaker 2: of the strongest structures ever built. And you've seen eight
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Speaker 2: shaped columns. You know, it's got a top and a bottom,
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Speaker 2: and then it's got a vertical number between them. A
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Speaker 2: lot of these columns were not your regular steel, which
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Speaker 2: was called ASTM thirty six, which means thirty six thousand
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Speaker 2: pounds per square ans capacity. A lot of the steel
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Speaker 2: was fifties, sixty and seventy and even between the top
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Speaker 2: and bottom, running parallel with the what they called the web,
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Speaker 2: were huge plates of steel welded in there where it
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Speaker 2: was like a steel box. It was almost like a
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Speaker 2: it was almost like a trunk of a tree. It
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Speaker 2: was just shy of being solid steel. And you couldn't
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Speaker 2: you couldn't take that out with a regular bomb. You
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Speaker 2: had to figure out some way the weaker the steal
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Speaker 2: to where then the bomb could pierce through it. And
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Speaker 2: Stratasek was involved in that in the Los Alamos National
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Speaker 2: Laboratory out in New Mexico. And then I started digging
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Speaker 2: into who are these names of these people? And you know,
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Speaker 2: how likely is it that George Bush's brother is part
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Speaker 2: of Stratisek and he's also part of an insurance company
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Speaker 2: that took a thirty million loss world on World Trade
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Speaker 2: Center when it came down. It's been my contention that
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Speaker 2: the Bush family knew about that as best assawsuits sometime
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Speaker 2: in the nineties.
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Speaker 1: You mentioned a laboratory there in connection with the security company.
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Speaker 1: If I read that correctly, what was what was happening
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Speaker 1: in the laboratory, what were they testing.
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Speaker 2: They were or the loss that particular lab lost. Alabos
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Speaker 2: National Lab was heavily involved in thermitic research. Now, thermdic
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Speaker 2: reactions have been around ever since they've been separating gold
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Speaker 2: and silver and you know, and copper. They can work
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Speaker 2: really fast or they can be designed to work really slow.
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Speaker 2: And what you do is once you get that ignited,
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Speaker 2: if it's a slow process, you know, have the plane
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Speaker 2: swam into the towers. The thermatic process kicks in and
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Speaker 2: then oh my god, the towers collapse when the bombs
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Speaker 2: started going off because they could pierce the steel because
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Speaker 2: they had been weakened. And there is a video, there's
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Speaker 2: a video on the internet. Molten metal was flowing out
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Speaker 2: of one of the towers and when they were clean
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Speaker 2: doing the cleanup, they found pools of melted molten belt.
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Speaker 2: There was nothing about the jet fuel fires or the
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Speaker 2: normal fires. It was hot enough to turn that type
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Speaker 2: of steel to a pool steel completely melted.
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Speaker 1: We have irrefutable statistic that no steel framed building anywhere
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Speaker 1: in the world had collapsed as simply as a result
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Speaker 1: of a carbonaceous wood or a fuel based fire.
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Speaker 2: Well there was never you know, I kind of joke
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Speaker 2: and my say sometimes or the building caused that lax
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Speaker 2: in New York City. The only three that have ever
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Speaker 2: collapsed anywhere in the world is a how rise fire
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Speaker 2: just happened to be right there on the same side
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Speaker 2: that to me is the smoking gun.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So if we focus in on the events of
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Speaker 1: the day a bit more, and I've got a number
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Speaker 1: of view images and there's a little bit of animate
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Speaker 1: here as well. And this, of course was something that
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Speaker 1: a lot of people saw. I think this is the
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Speaker 1: one that plays. So we've got one of the towers
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Speaker 1: already hit and then we see an aircraft flying to
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Speaker 1: the side of the other tower. When you see this clip,
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Speaker 1: what's the significance of it come.
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Speaker 2: Most of the pictures that were shown on TV and
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Speaker 2: videos that popped up later were much further away than
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Speaker 2: this guy was. This was a Canadian banker. He worked
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Speaker 2: in Toronto. He was in New York City. I think
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Speaker 2: he worked in compliance operations and he just happened to
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Speaker 2: be walking to work and he was standing there, you know,
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Speaker 2: video in the north tower. That's record place on the laptop,
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Speaker 2: and that's the Marriott Downtown on the right. So we
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Speaker 2: could figure out within feet of where he was standing,
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Speaker 2: you know, once we kind of matched up screen view
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Speaker 2: that he had on his camcorder. We had copies of
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Speaker 2: that video that you're playing, and what we did is
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Speaker 2: we put it on a large screen analyzed it, and
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Speaker 2: then we did still frames that were less than one
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Speaker 2: tenth of a second each. We have twenty still frames.
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Speaker 2: That's the seven thirty seven that is not as about
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Speaker 2: a bowling seven sixty seven from Boston bowling in the passion.
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Speaker 1: I've got one of those stills that you labeled, and
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Speaker 1: this is exhibit A that's gone in with the court submission.
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Speaker 1: And there's also one where there's a zoom in on it.
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Speaker 1: And you're suggesting here that this isn't even sorry, that
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Speaker 1: this is a manipulated image.
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Speaker 2: That's like a CGI answer. That is not the plane
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Speaker 2: that drew almost over the head of that Canadian banker
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Speaker 2: and he got it on the camcorder.
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Speaker 1: This one here is the genuine image. Is that correct?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a big mystery about what happened to these planes.
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Speaker 2: And I actually had a phone call one time. It
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Speaker 2: was made to me by a woman. She was involved
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Speaker 2: in air traffic control operations in Boston, and after my
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Speaker 2: book came out, after I was at Jimmy Walters thing,
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Speaker 2: she called me up from her sister's home phone number,
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Speaker 2: not her own phone, told me she just told me
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Speaker 2: her first name of random, and she was in the
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Speaker 2: air traffic control. When those two planes took off, they
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Speaker 2: didn't come to New York City, they went to Europe.
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Speaker 2: And I thought that was really odd. I mean, I
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Speaker 2: used to fly a lot of miles when I was
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Speaker 2: with Smith Barney and when my design build company was
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Speaker 2: doing work in multiple states. I had never been on
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Speaker 2: a seven sixty seven in a continental flight, within domestic
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Speaker 2: flight within the US. Seven sixty seven is much longer
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Speaker 2: range plane. And what she told me, she said, those
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Speaker 2: planes turned, they took off, and they turned back to
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Speaker 2: the east and they went towards you.
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Speaker 1: I've got to call it an anecdotal story, but that
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Speaker 1: lady called you and spoke to you.
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Speaker 2: She was scared because they had been threatened to not
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Speaker 2: talk about it, to not disclose it, blah blah blah.
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Speaker 2: And then when I when this video was in my position,
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Speaker 2: I was robbed by the CIA in Berlin. They stole
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Speaker 2: that video and about eleven months later, the other video
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Speaker 2: that my team had, that woman was found murdered in
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Speaker 2: her home. The video and the stills and there was
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Speaker 2: still money in her purse.
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Speaker 1: Okay, and the bank the original man, I think it
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Speaker 1: was a compliance officer for Canada Bank took the original video.
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Speaker 2: Is he still alive, Well, he just up and disappeared
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Speaker 2: after I was robbed. Deborah was trying to figure some
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Speaker 2: way to track him down to get another copy to me,
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Speaker 2: and then she wound up dead eleven months later and
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Speaker 2: we haven't been able to finding I called the bank
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Speaker 2: and they said, well, he didn't come to work one
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Speaker 2: day and we don't know where he went. He may
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Speaker 2: have gone into hiding under rockies or something.
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Speaker 1: The critical video clip was posted relatively recently. It suddenly
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Speaker 1: appeared online again, and you actually don't know who could
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Speaker 1: have released that video clip.
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Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't Deborah and it wasn't me, So maybe
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Speaker 2: the banker is still out there, or maybe another person
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Speaker 2: had that video. But that video that you just played
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Speaker 2: that was not on the internet like a year, year
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Speaker 2: and a half ago.
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Speaker 1: So we've got really disturbing things happening around real video
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Speaker 1: footage that was taken at the time, which of course
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Speaker 1: would be key evidence. And then we've got the facts
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Speaker 1: that it was claimed that the plane was a Boeing
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Speaker 1: seven six seven, but you are saying it was probably
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Speaker 1: a seven three seven, and we'll have a look at
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Speaker 1: that in a minute.
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Speaker 2: You know, one of the things that we did we
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Speaker 2: figured out within two or three feet where he was standing,
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Speaker 2: and with trigonometry on one of the still frames that
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Speaker 2: I have, we were able to figure out the wingspan
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Speaker 2: approximate wingspan of that jet that thrown over. And the
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Speaker 2: wingspan of the seven sixty seven is seventy five percent
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Speaker 2: of the width of the face of that building, and
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Speaker 2: the wingspan of a seven three seven is just a
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Speaker 2: little over fifty percent. So there's a big difference in
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Speaker 2: wingspan and body body with and even the size of
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Speaker 2: the engines. You know, we've already done that math. So
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Speaker 2: that's not a seven sixth seven, that's the same seven went.
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Speaker 1: Over here short the one that you're saying is the
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Speaker 1: CGI And this this was an image created presumably in
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Speaker 1: order to reinforce the idea that it was a Boeing
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Speaker 1: seven to sixty seven, the bigger aircraft.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and that photo was not wrong. Went over
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Speaker 2: here showed different COVID plane and everything.
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Speaker 1: More evidence that you've looked at is actually debris itself,
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Speaker 1: and in particular engine components, some of which appeared actually
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Speaker 1: on the street. So tell us about this one. A
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Speaker 1: combustion chamber.
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Speaker 2: That's a combustion chamber of the seven thirty seven. You
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Speaker 2: can verify that in multiple ways. I've shown that to
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Speaker 2: some people that actually work on seven thirty seven, so
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Speaker 2: you know they recognize what.
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Speaker 1: They're and of course the scale of that piece of
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Speaker 1: engine and the image is pretty simple to ascertain because
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Speaker 1: not only can you get some idea from the street
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Speaker 1: furniture close to it, but you've also got a person
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Speaker 1: standing in the foreground, and you've got two people crossing
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Speaker 1: in the background, and you can see that that is
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Speaker 1: waist height at best, so this is a very small unit.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the type of jet that they used as
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Speaker 2: jet engine they use on seven to thirty sevens, and
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Speaker 2: even prior to that, there was a couple of jet
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Speaker 2: models that had the same engines.
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Speaker 1: Are this is another image that you'd given us well
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Speaker 1: your exhibit B. In this case, we've got a seven
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Speaker 1: thirty seven jet engine and relative in size to a
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Speaker 1: human being adjacent to it. So we've got two men
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Speaker 1: or a lady could be one of them using her
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Speaker 1: phone in the background. So still quite a big engine.
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Speaker 1: But if I go to this one, which is the
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Speaker 1: seven six to seven jet engine, the audience can see
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Speaker 1: that there is a huge difference in size compared to
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Speaker 1: the man who's working in the foreground, and therefore the
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Speaker 1: wing that takes this engine would be vastly bigger than
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Speaker 1: for the seven three seven.
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Speaker 2: That's true, that engine weighs many towns more than seven
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Speaker 2: thirty seven.
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Speaker 1: And then if we turn our attention to the Pentagon,
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Speaker 1: this is an image of some form of glass. We
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Speaker 1: would call it a windscreen or windshield I think it's
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Speaker 1: called in the States on the Pentagon lawn. And you've
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Speaker 1: made the comment that there were no vehicles involved in
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Speaker 1: the impact or in the vicinity of the impact, and
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Speaker 1: you're saying it's not a window of a Boeing seven
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Speaker 1: fifty seven.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that photograph was sent to me the next day.
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Speaker 2: I woke up browing the next morning, and I knew
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Speaker 2: some people they're so correct to me as I could
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Speaker 2: identify that. Just to give you kind of a marker,
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Speaker 2: I'm about twenty years older than the person that sent
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Speaker 2: me that, now, a retired lieutenant colonel US Air Force
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Speaker 2: Intelligence and the Intel people, you know, they're not out
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Speaker 2: on the flight lines and the operations, and they didn't
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Speaker 2: even have a clue what that came from They wanted
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Speaker 2: to know if I'd ever seen it, and I told him,
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Speaker 2: I said, I got to frig it idea, and I
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Speaker 2: dug indeed, and yeah, that's a canopy window from an
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Speaker 2: A three Sky, which is a it's a Cold war jet.
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Speaker 2: It was mostly used in the Navy. It had to
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Speaker 2: have bowed up wings where you can actually waunch it,
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Speaker 2: you know, off from an aircraft carrier or from land base.
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Speaker 2: And it is used for electronic intelligence. It's used for
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Speaker 2: electronic jamming, it's used for recon. But he can also
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Speaker 2: carry a nuke and that's one of the reasons the
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Speaker 2: window as result. Yeah, potentially it was going to be
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Speaker 2: going into the Russian airspace if the war broke.
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Speaker 1: This was the glass obviously reinforced glass, because although it's
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Speaker 1: heavily fractured, it's held together. But it's on the lawn.
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Speaker 1: And you've also got an image here of what was
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Speaker 1: being claimed as part of a seven fifty seven wing.
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Speaker 1: But you're making the statement this is clearly not part
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Speaker 1: of a wing that any seven fifty seven has had.
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Speaker 1: And I'll follow on with this image where men are
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Speaker 1: carrying something away which is covered up, which is very
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Speaker 1: interesting and your comment is not a severed wing from
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Speaker 1: a seven to fifty seven that many men could pick up.
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Speaker 1: The real wing would be far too heavy. But also
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Speaker 1: the angles and the width of what's covered up with
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Speaker 1: the blue top are not close to a seven fifty
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Speaker 1: seven win, So there's debris on the ground. But your
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Speaker 1: point is that this debris does not match up with
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Speaker 1: the claims that the aircraft that hit the Pentagon was
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Speaker 1: a seven fifty seven.
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Speaker 2: True, absolutely, you know that's that's I was actually the
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Speaker 2: first person to break that story and was heavily criticized,
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Speaker 2: but several years later several other people verified it. They
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Speaker 2: went through all the airbus and pieces hit the Pentagon
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Speaker 2: and they came to the same conclusion. You know this
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Speaker 2: was not a seven and probably an E three.
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Speaker 1: Scan Okay, And you're reinforcing things here. So you've got
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Speaker 1: a cover of a magazine which is saying, is this
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Speaker 1: really a seven fifty seven engine disc either ORB to
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Speaker 1: eleven or Honeywell APU, or is it in stead from
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Speaker 1: the engine of a smaller plane or missile And that
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Speaker 1: appears to be the front cover of a book click
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Speaker 1: called wag Kingdom dot com. And then the right is
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Speaker 1: a turbine a prax Air, which is a company that
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Speaker 1: refurbished military jet engine blades, and you're saying that the
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Speaker 1: one on the right does seem to fit the right
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Speaker 1: dimensions for the debris on the Pentagon lawn.
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Speaker 2: Exactly if you take off the herb cap on the
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Speaker 2: web Boroughs and then you look at the one that's
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Speaker 2: been renovated in prats era, you can see it's exactly
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Speaker 2: the same center. Where does the turbine blades attached to it?
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Speaker 1: To put it in context, under your exhibit D, here's
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Speaker 1: the A three sky Warrior aircraft that would be fitted
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Speaker 1: with such engines. And you've made the comment here that
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Speaker 1: the Pentagon had two left as of nine eleven, two
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Speaker 1: thousand and one. This jet uses the exact type of
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Speaker 1: fan and wrote to Hub when you say the Pentagon
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Speaker 1: had two left, why would the Pentagon itself have aircraft
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Speaker 1: such as these?
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Speaker 2: Well, actually it was the service, whether it was Navy
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Speaker 2: or Air Force. They still had two A three sky
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Speaker 2: Warriers in their indatory, and I had people inside the
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Speaker 2: Pentagon for me. They so most of their weat to
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Speaker 2: raytheon which is the photograph of that jet right there.
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Speaker 2: They use those for their testing missiles and you know
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Speaker 2: electronic countermeasure systems, all kinds of different things they do
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Speaker 2: for the US.
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Speaker 1: And then we've got a close up here to give
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Speaker 1: us a better ideal of scale, not only in respect
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Speaker 1: to the engines, but here you're actually starting to focus
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Speaker 1: in on that broken windshield on the ground and saying
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Speaker 1: here it's a similar making of material Ryland's size as
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Speaker 1: found on the Pentagon lawn. And if I just go
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Speaker 1: to the next one and then I'll let you come
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Speaker 1: back in to comment. So here we've got a nose
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Speaker 1: cone section of the same aircraft, and there you can
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Speaker 1: see the shape of that windshield glass and it certainly
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Speaker 1: does to me seemed to be roughly the same shape
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Speaker 1: as the shape of the broken windshield on the Pentagon lawn.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, most military jets don't have canopy canopy windows like that.
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Speaker 2: They're small. It's either a unitied one canopy piece or
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Speaker 2: it's two pieces. But that was the only jet I've
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Speaker 2: ever seen anywhere it actually had those two that were
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Speaker 2: above the power and copower.
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Speaker 1: Where has this evidence, this photographic evidence, where has this appeared.
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Speaker 1: You've now got it into your lawsuit documentation, but where
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Speaker 1: has it come to light elsewhere.
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Speaker 2: I have put that in an article that I wrote
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Speaker 2: about the A three skywarder, I revealed that, yes, we
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Speaker 2: have a photograph. I was doing my own critique of
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Speaker 2: the official story because I knew the official story was
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Speaker 2: basically just a big way.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for that car and this one which I
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Speaker 1: just find fascinating. So you have here a photograph which
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Speaker 1: you've said is a photo taken inside one of the
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Speaker 1: World Trade Center towers, and then you can see on
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Speaker 1: the big cardbell boxes that are stacked up it says
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Speaker 1: BB eighteen. And you've commented that the boxes of devices
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Speaker 1: used in controlled demolitions, this would be is a very
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Speaker 1: critical photograph. What's the provenance of it? Though? How do
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Speaker 1: we know that this is a bona fide e photograph
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Speaker 1: from inside the World Trade Center?
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Speaker 2: I can tell it's inside the World Trade Center several
24:03
Speaker 2: different ways, but just the width of the windows and
24:06
Speaker 2: the other spent, you know, the vertical elements of course,
24:10
Speaker 2: with the guy looking away from is what he's doing
24:13
Speaker 2: is he's touching the cable to what is called a fuseholder.
24:17
Speaker 2: It's the fuseholder that they have to put in to
24:20
Speaker 2: test the sequence when you're bringing the building down to
24:24
Speaker 2: control demoition. All the bombs don't go off the same time.
24:28
Speaker 2: You have to gut it, so to speak, in this
24:31
Speaker 2: in the center and then the other others, you know,
24:34
Speaker 2: start falling to the center to bring it all down
24:37
Speaker 2: within his footprint. You know, you don't want one hundred
24:40
Speaker 2: and ten story building falling like a tree, or a
24:45
Speaker 2: forty seven story building like World Trade Center seven. It
24:49
Speaker 2: has to be broken up internally and down well what
24:53
Speaker 2: he's doing. There After they do the wiring and the
24:57
Speaker 2: testing the sequence, then they sit the exposers are already set,
25:02
Speaker 2: but they're just they don't have the firing mechanism that lead,
25:06
Speaker 2: which is basically an electric charge. And then when they
25:10
Speaker 2: actually do it with the laptop, boom, boom boom. The
25:14
Speaker 2: whole sequence is done. But we had questions of who
25:19
Speaker 2: that person is doing that, and I sent this to
25:22
Speaker 2: a remote viewing team. We're talking to somebody who's military
25:27
Speaker 2: police for law enforcement and also intelligence agency level team
25:34
Speaker 2: and they're ninety five certain that guy was the chief
25:39
Speaker 2: operating officer of the World Trade Center Security Company STRAT
25:43
Speaker 2: A second.
25:45
Speaker 1: I have to ask a question here, and maybe this
25:47
Speaker 1: is a very naive question to ask how how would
25:53
Speaker 1: it be possible to engage an American in much vicious
26:02
Speaker 1: criminal activity to bring down a major building with a
26:06
Speaker 1: result in thousands of deaths? Why? Why would American do that?
26:11
Speaker 1: Would would they be prepared to do it simply because
26:15
Speaker 1: they were offered a lot of money. I could there's
26:18
Speaker 1: an expression in UK which is an ordinary decent criminal
26:24
Speaker 1: and it means a criminal that is still a criminal,
26:27
Speaker 1: but they actually have some other values. They still respect
26:30
Speaker 1: certain values, and I can remember I could think that
26:35
Speaker 1: a lot of people who might be criminal in lots
26:38
Speaker 1: of things they do, would balk at the attempt of
26:41
Speaker 1: doing such a heenious crime on behalf of the government.
26:47
Speaker 2: The guy that was the chief operating ULCER strategy is
26:51
Speaker 2: previous background. He was at Fort Monmouth Milding Base. It's
26:57
Speaker 2: got AMC and he is a web and exposives expert.
27:02
Speaker 2: They do a lot of distribution of weapons from there,
27:05
Speaker 2: and also Charleston, South Carolina. You got a military background,
27:10
Speaker 2: and I guess if you offered him enough money and security,
27:13
Speaker 2: you won't get caught. You know, he may have decided
27:17
Speaker 2: to go ahead and.
27:18
Speaker 1: Taken let's put the photograph of those boxes back on
27:22
Speaker 1: screen because you'd also put some text alongside it, which
27:26
Speaker 1: I'll just read for the audience. It will be sufficient
27:30
Speaker 1: to say here that no tool structural steel building has
27:34
Speaker 1: ever suffered global collapse complete collapse, either before or after
27:39
Speaker 1: nine to eleven, for any reason other than controlled demolition.
27:44
Speaker 1: On nine to eleven, the official account says that there
27:47
Speaker 1: were three such instances, that is a complete collapse due
27:52
Speaker 1: to minor low heat fires, all on the same day
27:57
Speaker 1: and in the same place. This is a very suspicious
28:01
Speaker 1: record that cannot be ignored when looking at all of
28:04
Speaker 1: the other factors. And then the statements goes on to
28:09
Speaker 1: say the photo is inside a World Trade Center tower
28:12
Speaker 1: for cardboard boxes BB eighteen of devices used in controlled demolitions.
28:19
Speaker 1: This is absolutely a fundamental thing the strength of the
28:23
Speaker 1: World Trade Center buildings by virtue of their construction. And
28:29
Speaker 1: I will insert an image so that viewers can actually
28:34
Speaker 1: see what it looks like if you cut horizontally across
28:38
Speaker 1: the buildings to see what that steel core is. And
28:41
Speaker 1: you've already described that that was a massive central steel framework,
28:49
Speaker 1: and it was of steel that had superior heat resistance
28:55
Speaker 1: to normal steels. But in any case, the heat from
29:00
Speaker 1: jet fuel burning in normal open air conditions cannot generate
29:06
Speaker 1: the heat necessary to melt or even greatly softened steel.
29:13
Speaker 1: And yet in this case we have the steel simply
29:18
Speaker 1: vaporizing or becoming molten, and the buildings falling in their
29:22
Speaker 1: own footprint. It is, it is a remarkable situation.
29:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me say something about the photograph that the
29:31
Speaker 2: guy with the BB eighteen boxes. We have another photograph
29:35
Speaker 2: that was taken inside the World Trade Center, and it's
29:39
Speaker 2: taken at a different angle, and you get two young
29:43
Speaker 2: males working out and down, and you can tell that
29:48
Speaker 2: this was taken somewhere like the sixty seventy, maybe the
29:51
Speaker 2: eighty of four of World Trade Center. Same boxes.
29:56
Speaker 1: And of course those boxes could only come in if
29:59
Speaker 1: secure for the World Trade Center had been heavily compromised,
30:04
Speaker 1: or the security company or personnel were complicit in allowing
30:12
Speaker 1: this to happen.
30:14
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, and I'm saying complicit. The only way that
30:20
Speaker 2: you could have gotten to the interior core is through
30:23
Speaker 2: these this massive structure is through the elevators and certain
30:29
Speaker 2: crawl spaces that I see. Not all the elevators went
30:35
Speaker 2: all the way up, but you have to get back
30:38
Speaker 2: in there and wire it and even put the thermite
30:42
Speaker 2: like a thermite plate on both sides of it. When
30:45
Speaker 2: that ignites, that will immediately start degrading the strength of steel.
30:51
Speaker 2: And that's what they were doing at Wells almost thermtic research. Now,
30:56
Speaker 2: I always thought ther medic reactions were very fast. Have
31:00
Speaker 2: a video of a German. Your company was one of
31:04
Speaker 2: them that embitted their many processes and they were demonstrating
31:07
Speaker 2: the past and the soil the soil version. So yes,
31:11
Speaker 2: there there's there's a way to do it.
31:14
Speaker 1: Cole, let's bring things together here a bit, because you
31:20
Speaker 1: were present when the initial inquiry was going on around
31:26
Speaker 1: well Trade Center and the events. What was your take
31:31
Speaker 1: on on how investigations were conducted.
31:36
Speaker 2: I was already aware that there were some huge conflicts.
31:41
Speaker 2: Like the chairman Thomas keene Uh, he's involved. He was
31:45
Speaker 2: the CEO of Amaranda Hess Oil Company. But Amaranda Hess
31:50
Speaker 2: was already in the joint venture with Delta Oil is
31:53
Speaker 2: suding over in the Casp and they have some they
31:57
Speaker 2: have a big old ease Is just off the off
32:00
Speaker 2: the coast of Azubaijan and just north of Iran. And
32:04
Speaker 2: then Mayor Brown, Richard bin Finist, they were the ones
32:10
Speaker 2: that were representing Turkmenistan in Texas. They represented them at
32:15
Speaker 2: the Fifth Circuit, and they even fouled a rid of
32:17
Speaker 2: serchi Era to the Supreme Court, which was rejected in
32:21
Speaker 2: March two thousand and four. So you had conflicts sitting
32:26
Speaker 2: right there on that commission. They had no reason to
32:29
Speaker 2: work for the truth.
32:30
Speaker 1: If you sum up your opinion of those inquiries for us,
32:34
Speaker 1: how would you describe them?
32:36
Speaker 2: I agree with the six of the ten commissioners and
32:38
Speaker 2: said that it was set up.
32:40
Speaker 1: To set up to fail. That that expression also suggests
32:48
Speaker 1: men's ray that there was there was a guilty mind,
32:51
Speaker 1: there was a plan at work. It wasn't as if
32:54
Speaker 1: it was set up and then it proved to be incompetent.
32:57
Speaker 1: You're suggesting that it was deliberately set up in order
33:01
Speaker 1: to produce an answer and evaluation on the day. That
33:07
Speaker 1: was not true.
33:08
Speaker 2: John Farmer, he used to be the Attorney General of
33:11
Speaker 2: New Jersey. He was also on the staff of Christine
33:15
Speaker 2: Todd Quitman, former eb EPA administrator, as a regal council
33:21
Speaker 2: to her office. That he was He was one of
33:24
Speaker 2: the general councils for the Nanoweben Commission, and he went
33:28
Speaker 2: public heat it was all over, and he said, basically,
33:31
Speaker 2: the United States experiment the truth of what happened.
33:35
Speaker 1: And as you've made clear in the way that you've
33:38
Speaker 1: set out the legal application with the plaintiffs, this act
33:43
Speaker 1: of not telling the truth, which is a very polite
33:46
Speaker 1: way of saying that public of being lied to, had huge,
33:52
Speaker 1: huge implications on what took place in other parts of
33:55
Speaker 1: the world. And thousands, if not millions of people died
34:00
Speaker 1: as a result of these actions that took place around
34:03
Speaker 1: the World Trade Center.
34:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I all started there, and then I've seen
34:09
Speaker 2: figures that between Aghainistan and Iraq to version two point zero,
34:14
Speaker 2: there's over two million dead. Two million, yeah, over two
34:21
Speaker 2: million dead.
34:23
Speaker 1: Yeah. When you look at that BBC Children's documentary which
34:29
Speaker 1: was in part one, and say to our audience, if
34:32
Speaker 1: you haven't seen that part one, you need to see
34:34
Speaker 1: it because this is this is a bit of a
34:37
Speaker 1: more relaxed discussion on what took place. But when you
34:40
Speaker 1: see that BBC report to children, what goes through your head.
34:45
Speaker 2: They're trying to teach people not to think and not
34:48
Speaker 2: to ask questions. You'll just buy off what we told you.
34:51
Speaker 2: If we told you the truth, just believe it. But
34:56
Speaker 2: where I'm from, Brian, we have a saying I was born,
34:59
Speaker 2: but not yesterday. And when I started, when I started
35:04
Speaker 2: seeing what was going on before nine to eleven that
35:07
Speaker 2: day and after nine to eleven, it made perfect sense
35:11
Speaker 2: to me of why they did it and what they
35:15
Speaker 2: were really after. And that two hundred and forty page
35:20
Speaker 2: document I sent you, that was the one I prepared
35:22
Speaker 2: for our attorneys. Every bit of the facts are in there.
35:26
Speaker 2: And like in Florida, Stratisect, we couldn't find we couldn't
35:30
Speaker 2: find a foreign corporation registration in Florida for Stratisect, even
35:34
Speaker 2: though we knew there was one. We actually found that, yes,
35:38
Speaker 2: there was a business relationship with two companies down there
35:42
Speaker 2: in SEC files, a mandatory you know, public company sec FIUL.
35:52
Speaker 2: We was taking a lot of research to get to
35:53
Speaker 2: the bottom up.
35:55
Speaker 1: We've got three things at work. We've got asbestos and
35:59
Speaker 1: asbestos or in the building, which was a bit multi
36:03
Speaker 1: billion pound problem. We've got very strange circumstances with a
36:10
Speaker 1: security company around the building. And then we've got a
36:17
Speaker 1: I believe the figure you gave me originally was a
36:19
Speaker 1: seven point four trillion value on that oil pipeline deal.
36:26
Speaker 2: Well that was as of two thousand and four.
36:29
Speaker 1: That's a very good point. Yes, seven trillion as of
36:33
Speaker 1: two thousand and four, so a huge, absolutely huge opunity
36:40
Speaker 1: oil and gas opportunity. The US companies had been outmaneuvered
36:48
Speaker 1: by that Argentinian company. And it was clear that the
36:51
Speaker 1: US companies and the government wanted that pipeline deal, but
36:55
Speaker 1: they could only get it if they had control of Afghanistan.
37:00
Speaker 1: And how do you get control of Afghanistan and the region.
37:04
Speaker 1: You've got to get troops on the ground, and you
37:07
Speaker 1: need an excuse to get those troops on the ground,
37:10
Speaker 1: and you would argue, hence nine to eleven Pearl Harbor, Pearlber.
37:16
Speaker 2: I'll just give you an a sight. There are still
37:19
Speaker 2: groups trying to sue the Sounds. And I saw this woman.
37:25
Speaker 2: She lives in Florida and her husband died. He worked
37:28
Speaker 2: for Camp Darkness Gerald and they're still after the Saudias.
37:34
Speaker 2: And I've been trying to get her to accept as
37:36
Speaker 2: simple reality that Saudis were business partners with these people.
37:40
Speaker 2: They were not going to lose that by attacking America.
37:45
Speaker 2: And when we found that there was Kuwait American Corporation
37:49
Speaker 2: involved with the Bushban involved with stratasy, involved in the
37:53
Speaker 2: secure Com versus secure Com lawsuit. That tells me that
38:00
Speaker 2: you don't work at the saleas look at who was
38:04
Speaker 2: actually hands on. And in that one photo where you're
38:08
Speaker 2: showing the guy with the BB eighteen boxes, I think
38:12
Speaker 2: that's Michelli Sabbah that's sitting down in the business suit.
38:18
Speaker 2: You know, there's three three men in that photo. I
38:20
Speaker 2: think I think this coat gay.
38:24
Speaker 1: Yes, you've got the man in the slightly pinkish top
38:28
Speaker 1: who's working. He's clearly a workman. And then behind him,
38:34
Speaker 1: just behind his hands in this image is a man
38:38
Speaker 1: sat in a dark suit with his back towards us.
38:41
Speaker 1: And you think that this figure may be who?
38:45
Speaker 2: I think that's Michelle we Sabah of Kuwait American Corporation,
38:49
Speaker 2: which was in bed with Marvin Bush and wort D.
38:55
Speaker 2: Walker the third who's also a first cousin, and other
38:59
Speaker 2: people that were direct we involved in security or Tree Center.
39:03
Speaker 1: Well, obviously we can't see that man's face, but you
39:07
Speaker 1: you make that allegation because of all the other information
39:11
Speaker 1: around it.
39:13
Speaker 2: It's just a gut reaction I have every time I
39:15
Speaker 2: look at that photo.
39:17
Speaker 1: Tell us a bit about the team that's if you can,
39:21
Speaker 1: that's come around you to support what you've done here
39:23
Speaker 1: with assembling such a vast amount of evidence over so
39:27
Speaker 1: many years and moving it through the court case. If
39:33
Speaker 1: you can't give us names, can you tell us anything
39:35
Speaker 1: about the types of people that have come around to
39:39
Speaker 1: support you.
39:43
Speaker 2: Some of them have been engineers, scientists, technicians, you know,
39:48
Speaker 2: very smart people. I had to get out of the
39:51
Speaker 2: Nino Web and Truth movement for the simple reason I
39:55
Speaker 2: was the only Republican involved in it. And when you
39:58
Speaker 2: get a bunch of liberals who are involved in it
40:02
Speaker 2: because they want to get rid of for shamey, and
40:05
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden a Republican shows up and
40:07
Speaker 2: has more information than they have, they tried to turn
40:11
Speaker 2: it around and make the whole story about me. Yeah,
40:15
Speaker 2: it's like they totally of our focus. But I'd call
40:19
Speaker 2: that an anaem of truth because I could see one
40:21
Speaker 2: going anyway.
40:22
Speaker 1: So you've got professional people who've come around you. Have
40:27
Speaker 1: you had I've done three interviews with CIA professionals who
40:34
Speaker 1: have grave concerns about the performance and the reliability and
40:38
Speaker 1: the trustworthiness of American Intelligence and security nation national security.
40:45
Speaker 1: Have you had anybody of that ILK that's come on
40:51
Speaker 1: board to support who's got inside knowledge of the government,
40:55
Speaker 1: the inner workings of the US government itself.
40:58
Speaker 2: Not yet, but it's like I told you before we
41:02
Speaker 2: started last night, I got emails from three former CIA
41:07
Speaker 2: people that won't this video. So most of the people
41:13
Speaker 2: have been like pilots, architect engineers, mechanics that work on jets,
41:19
Speaker 2: you know, verifying the little the little pieces of the
41:22
Speaker 2: components and everything. You know, they haven't been they haven't
41:26
Speaker 2: been the government level stuff. There's been the people that
41:28
Speaker 2: are practical front line people that they're in aerospace, you know,
41:33
Speaker 2: they actually work on the jets. Yes, they know what
41:36
Speaker 2: a Boeing seven thirty seven combustion chamber looks, like, how
41:40
Speaker 2: big it is, and then they do the same on
41:43
Speaker 2: the seven sixth set. I mean even the even the
41:46
Speaker 2: type of combustion chamber it's on the seven five seven
41:51
Speaker 2: is considerably bigger than what you were showing for the
41:53
Speaker 2: seven three seven. It's a it's a different type of
41:57
Speaker 2: jet engine. It's called a high bypass fan and it's
42:01
Speaker 2: not it's not like a turbojet where the air comes
42:03
Speaker 2: in and it gets supercharged and blows out back. How
42:09
Speaker 2: about bess Man, your your fan blades are huge, and
42:14
Speaker 2: what you're doing, you're you're grabbing more air, pushing it.
42:19
Speaker 1: You've now submitted the legal documentation where that application has
42:27
Speaker 1: been made to the court. But as I understand it,
42:31
Speaker 1: the information that's gone in has got to be reworked
42:34
Speaker 1: in order to get it in a proper legal format
42:39
Speaker 1: and with the correct legal language and presumably charges u
42:46
Speaker 1: formed around the evidence that your team has put together.
42:51
Speaker 1: Can you tell us a bit more about the process
42:53
Speaker 1: of getting it into the legal system. Who's actually accepted
42:57
Speaker 1: these Papersttorneys.
43:00
Speaker 2: Review them and uh, no one, No one attorney can
43:04
Speaker 2: take these people on. I mean, it's gonna it's gonna
43:08
Speaker 2: have to have a big back office, maybe two or
43:11
Speaker 2: three of all firms, you know, representing the plaintiffs, because
43:15
Speaker 2: we're going to be up against quite a few big
43:18
Speaker 2: law firms. It'll turn into what we call paper boys
43:22
Speaker 2: real quick. There will be all kinds of motions, kind
43:26
Speaker 2: of motions, you know, emotions for Summery's judgment. So somebody
43:32
Speaker 2: he's gonna have to review it and understand the reason
43:37
Speaker 2: that the lawsuit is rico civil, rico vicar abuse of
43:44
Speaker 2: human rights under cover of all all the way up
43:47
Speaker 2: to burder and treason, and there's two walls. It's common
43:52
Speaker 2: in UK and it's common in US. Wall it's called
43:55
Speaker 2: misprision of felony and misprision of treason. If you're aware
44:01
Speaker 2: of something you don't report it and it comes out later,
44:04
Speaker 2: you know you could be charged.
44:06
Speaker 1: We spoke quite quite a while ago, and at that
44:09
Speaker 1: stage President Trump hadn't come into office. How do you
44:15
Speaker 1: view the fact that Trump's now in his presidents of
44:19
Speaker 1: the United States? Do you think that his his offices
44:25
Speaker 1: are going to be more receptive to taking this type
44:28
Speaker 1: of case forward.
44:30
Speaker 2: He has always wanted the truth about Man Webb and
44:33
Speaker 2: on the record, So a lot of people don't know that.
44:37
Speaker 2: They had a hard time coming up with enough manpowered
44:40
Speaker 2: machines for the cleanup proofs, and Donald Trump hired out
44:45
Speaker 2: of his own pocket additional people come in and help.
44:50
Speaker 2: So he was concerned about what happened. I think he'd
44:54
Speaker 2: be supportive of the truth.
44:55
Speaker 1: Actually, family, can you say at the moment but that
45:00
Speaker 1: these this legal application has been accepted by the Department
45:05
Speaker 1: of Justice?
45:07
Speaker 2: No, no, we haven't. We haven't gone that step. Uh,
45:12
Speaker 2: the approach we're taken would actually be filed in the
45:14
Speaker 2: US District Court, it wouldn't be fouled to the c
45:17
Speaker 2: oj D. O J is more of the law enforcement
45:21
Speaker 2: arm of the US government, and it's basically for federal laws.
45:26
Speaker 2: But this one, this one, by ways a lot of
45:28
Speaker 2: federal laws and state laws too. One interesting thing after
45:33
Speaker 2: nine to eleven happened. I contacted Arlington County, Virginion, and
45:37
Speaker 2: I contacted the prosecuting attorney in Manhattan. They both have
45:42
Speaker 2: been ordered to stand down and not pursue murder investigations
45:46
Speaker 2: in their own jurisdiction. And it was absolutely their jurisdiction,
45:51
Speaker 2: but they were ordered. I don't know. This was a
45:54
Speaker 2: this was an actual war against America, So we don't
45:58
Speaker 2: you know, you can't you can't investigates this.
46:00
Speaker 1: This is by putting this claim into the district court
46:06
Speaker 1: in New York and New Jersey area. Apart from anything else,
46:14
Speaker 1: This is where the raw emotion of what happened resides,
46:18
Speaker 1: isn't it because the events took place there.
46:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, what we may wind up doing. And I've had
46:25
Speaker 2: this discussion with the attorney to The courts in New
46:30
Speaker 2: York are very were wrong. They tend to try to
46:34
Speaker 2: make up the law as they go. And the other
46:39
Speaker 2: possibility would be fouling this in the state of Virginia
46:42
Speaker 2: because Arlington County, Virginia, they're murders there too. Okay, because
46:50
Speaker 2: I don't I'm not sure that I'm not sure that
46:53
Speaker 2: anybody would get a fair trial see on something that's magnitude.
46:58
Speaker 2: There's too many ways the mafia, corruption and stuff like
47:01
Speaker 2: that could try to twist this and you know, you
47:04
Speaker 2: get kicked out on technicality.
47:07
Speaker 1: What sort of reaction have you had from the media
47:12
Speaker 1: in what you're doing, because you've been very outspoken, your
47:15
Speaker 1: book went out there, you did the very high profile interviews.
47:19
Speaker 1: Did you get any response from the big media channels
47:23
Speaker 1: in the US or from anywhere else.
47:26
Speaker 2: You mean, like CBS, NBC, ABC, No. No, they're pretty
47:33
Speaker 2: much under control of the CIA, and if they're told
47:38
Speaker 2: to not touch a story, they'ren'll touch it.
47:41
Speaker 1: Well at the end of the day, because its one
47:44
Speaker 1: of the reasons that the UK column exists, because we
47:47
Speaker 1: got tired of the fact that the truth didn't come
47:50
Speaker 1: out in the big media channels. And of course, if
47:53
Speaker 1: you live in UK you have this multi multi billion
47:58
Speaker 1: pound organization called the bb SEE which simply works alongside
48:02
Speaker 1: and for the government. There's no question this is true.
48:06
Speaker 1: And I've not seen any substantial investigation by the BBC
48:12
Speaker 1: into what took place.
48:13
Speaker 2: At nine to eleven.
48:15
Speaker 1: We have the incident of building number seven. Would you
48:18
Speaker 1: like to remind the audience about that.
48:21
Speaker 2: At about five pm on September eleven, two thousand and
48:24
Speaker 2: one of the BBC, a woman reporter looks at something
48:29
Speaker 2: and she looks at this camera and she goes, we've
48:33
Speaker 2: just been informed that the Salomon building has collapsed, and
48:38
Speaker 2: wearily over her west shoulder in the background across Manhattan,
48:43
Speaker 2: WTC seven is still standing. About twenty minutes later, it
48:48
Speaker 2: was brought down by I controlled them and even Wherey Silverstein,
48:54
Speaker 2: Werry Silverstein admitted after nine to eleven and he gave
48:57
Speaker 2: the order to pull it. Well, pull it is a
49:00
Speaker 2: controlled emoition term. That's a warning sign that in ten
49:05
Speaker 2: minutes this building's coming down, so everybody get away.
49:09
Speaker 1: He of course was trying to sell it that in
49:11
Speaker 1: order to protect the public, a decision that had been
49:14
Speaker 1: made to collapse the building. But it also it also
49:19
Speaker 1: collapsed by falling in on itself, and you can see
49:23
Speaker 1: that very clearly in that footage.
49:25
Speaker 2: Well, if you look at the World Trade Center, there
49:28
Speaker 2: was some spewing outwards which was basically from the core
49:34
Speaker 2: out the core itself collapsed into its on foot. That's
49:39
Speaker 2: why we knew there was no way that low heat
49:42
Speaker 2: fires could have done that. Some other way had to
49:46
Speaker 2: be brought in. The bear brought those that interior core down.
49:51
Speaker 1: And the last point for me, Carl is you have
49:56
Speaker 1: an audience today. What would you like to say to
49:59
Speaker 1: the audience. What would you like them to be thinking
50:02
Speaker 1: about and doing in relation to nine eleven?
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Speaker 2: Several things we had discussed in the past by email.
50:10
Speaker 2: Can you put my email address posted with this article
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Speaker 2: of video.
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Speaker 1: Of course, one.
50:19
Speaker 2: Of the things we've run into is the United States
50:22
Speaker 2: government was real dirty. They have tried to make sure
50:26
Speaker 2: we couldn't get any traction to come at them. They
50:28
Speaker 2: know what we know. Like at the third anniversary event,
50:32
Speaker 2: Jimmy Walters at September eleven, two thousand and four, CIA
50:38
Speaker 2: shows up and they threatened me backstage. They thought I
50:43
Speaker 2: was going to disclose this basket's lawsuit because I requested
50:46
Speaker 2: an order copy of the final order of the business lawsuit.
50:51
Speaker 2: And I just looked at him and I said, gentlemen,
50:53
Speaker 2: I came here to say what I have to say,
50:55
Speaker 2: So why don't you go with these two security guards
50:57
Speaker 2: that you cannot leave, be back here and you can
51:01
Speaker 2: just listen to what I got to say. As you
51:03
Speaker 2: know from the power point that you were showing some
51:05
Speaker 2: of the slads, I was revealing the Caspian basion issues.
51:11
Speaker 2: There were other people in that on those four panels
51:14
Speaker 2: that were talking about is the asbestos and there were
51:18
Speaker 2: other people talking about the I don't know why they
51:21
Speaker 2: targeted me, but I thought it was really stupid for
51:24
Speaker 2: them to know threaten me because they were afraid I
51:27
Speaker 2: was going to be the one that outed. Now one
51:32
Speaker 2: of the things I wish, I wish the entire world
51:34
Speaker 2: had seen Jimmy Walter's DV deal. Then they'd be wide away.
51:41
Speaker 2: But I think what needs to happen. We're going to
51:44
Speaker 2: have to pull together a support group, even financially, because
51:48
Speaker 2: every which way I've turned, including this year, Ryan, I
51:52
Speaker 2: had a guy coming to Canada. I didn't get back
51:55
Speaker 2: to Europe until the eighteenth of January, and he was
51:59
Speaker 2: literally disappeared. First he was kidnapped catching a plane to
52:05
Speaker 2: come to Ontario. That right there set me back five
52:09
Speaker 2: million and over sixty million that one step. It took
52:14
Speaker 2: the police about five or six hours to find him.
52:17
Speaker 2: By the time they found him, he had missed his
52:19
Speaker 2: five ten am flight, so we tried to write him
52:22
Speaker 2: a different way. And we haven't seen or heard from
52:25
Speaker 2: this key person since January seventh, three pm his time
52:30
Speaker 2: in six am, my time in Ontario. That's why I
52:34
Speaker 2: came back to Europe. I mean, I just got completely
52:37
Speaker 2: leveled over there, years worth of work or not. This
52:42
Speaker 2: is how the US government works with people. They spy
52:45
Speaker 2: on you, they get out ahead of you, and they
52:47
Speaker 2: hammer you to keep you from moving forward. Now you've
52:52
Speaker 2: just presented to me. What you've just presented to me
52:55
Speaker 2: here is major evidence and can move forward as soon
52:59
Speaker 2: as we can and the means to do that.
53:02
Speaker 1: Carl, I'm going to say, I think we're at the
53:06
Speaker 1: end of this. There's so much more to tell and this,
53:11
Speaker 1: this two part interview is a tiny proportion of the
53:15
Speaker 1: work that you've been doing. And thank you very very
53:19
Speaker 1: much for joining me. And I'm just so pleased that
53:23
Speaker 1: you also were watching that interview with mister Sweeney when
53:28
Speaker 1: the issue of Sandy Berger came up and that triggers
53:33
Speaker 1: you to make contact. That was that was really excellent,
53:36
Speaker 1: So thank you very much for doing doing that.
53:38
Speaker 2: I was surprised when I first went to your safe
53:41
Speaker 2: you had entered you Waller in here. And I know
53:46
Speaker 2: I know from arm's length, I know who both of
53:49
Speaker 2: these people are, but I've never never watched a video
53:51
Speaker 2: with I've read articles where people were talking about them.
53:55
Speaker 1: I found the interviews with them very, very interesting because
54:01
Speaker 1: one of the points that we discussed is if these
54:03
Speaker 1: things were happening in the States, they're also either breakdown
54:07
Speaker 1: of law and order within the security services. If that's
54:11
Speaker 1: happened within the services in the US, it's also certainly
54:17
Speaker 1: happened in the UK. In fact, a little while ago,
54:21
Speaker 1: the government was busy introducing a law which made it
54:26
Speaker 1: easier for the intelligence and security services to break the
54:31
Speaker 1: law when they felt it was appropriate to do so. So,
54:37
Speaker 1: if the law is to make the law, if the
54:42
Speaker 1: law is to break the law, you have no law.
54:45
Speaker 2: That's true. In America they have the Smith Month Act,
54:48
Speaker 2: which are forbid propaganda and lying to Americans. But then
54:53
Speaker 2: in twenty twelve Obama had been they did the Smith
54:56
Speaker 2: Month Organization Act, which legalized hying to am.
55:01
Speaker 1: Just a coincidence, just a coincidence, just.
55:05
Speaker 2: A coal evidence. But anyway, make sure that my email
55:09
Speaker 2: gets in there. People are welcome to contact me if
55:12
Speaker 2: they want to. And you know we're having we're having
55:15
Speaker 2: to pull together a war chest here to take these
55:17
Speaker 2: people on and take them down. The evidence is well,
55:22
Speaker 2: I've got a lot more photos than you have shown everyday.
55:26
Speaker 2: I mean, the evidence is overwhelming. I just I just
55:30
Speaker 2: selected some of them to stick in there. You know,
55:33
Speaker 2: we could discuss it today, Carl.
55:35
Speaker 1: Let's end there. Thank you very very much for joining me.
55:39
Speaker 1: It's been a fascinating discussion and we need to you know,
55:43
Speaker 1: we need to get the truth out and we need
55:45
Speaker 1: to get the bad people brought to brought to rights.
55:51
Speaker 1: That's the that's the aim of the game.
55:54
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for having me. One of the things
55:56
Speaker 2: that's going to happen as soon as I have the
55:58
Speaker 2: links is this is going out to close to thirty
56:01
Speaker 2: million people and I'm hoping you get a lot more
56:04
Speaker 2: followers and viewers and supporters because you're doing great work
56:08
Speaker 2: over there.
56:09
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Let's leave it there and hope
56:13
Speaker 1: to see you again with the UK column. Thank you
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Speaker 1: very much Carl Schwartz BIE
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Speaker 2: Thank you have good rank