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NFL Week 16 Predictions/ Will the Thunder break the regular szn win record? NBA POD! · The So-Called Sports Analysts

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  Speaker 1: Oh it did start all right.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to another episode, episode number
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  Speaker 2: one forty six of the so called sports analyst Josh.
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  Speaker 1: How are you doing.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, We're about to get into some basketball today, you know,
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  Speaker 3: our first basketball podcast. First, we've got to make these
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  Speaker 3: predictions real quick for the NFL, really really quick.
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  Speaker 4: Fantasy football really doesn't matter nowhere.
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  Speaker 3: If you're either you're in or you're not. You know
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  Speaker 3: to start, you know who to dome, who not to.
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  Speaker 4: So we're gonna run through those pretty quick. But you
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  Speaker 4: know what we're gonna talk about.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about San Antonio Spurs today. We're gonna
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  Speaker 3: talk about SGA and the Thunder and their run.
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna talk about and how.
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  Speaker 3: The Spurs beat them Rocket, the Pistons being dominant over
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  Speaker 3: the rest of the Eastern Conference, the Cleveland Cavaliers fall
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  Speaker 3: off to the Clippers blow it up, And is this
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  Speaker 3: draft class in comparison to nineteen ninety six.
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna talk about it, and.
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  Speaker 3: I'm pretty hyped about it because this draft class right
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  Speaker 3: now genuinely dogs from top to bottom, and dude, it's
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  Speaker 3: pretty good. Honestly, best year of my life. Watching basketball
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  Speaker 3: this season, and I will stand by that. Like I
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  Speaker 3: so far this year, the start of the season, it
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  Speaker 3: has everything written for like everything's just written so I
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  Speaker 3: and I just feel like, dude, this basketball season just
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  Speaker 3: feels a little bit different. Yeah, I probably because the
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  Speaker 3: Spurs are winning, but I've seen my team win championships
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  Speaker 3: before and this is just feels a little different right now.
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  Speaker 2: Well also just a little bit older too, like you're
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  Speaker 2: finally at it, not saying what twenty fourteen that was
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  Speaker 2: the last time the Spurs won.
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  Speaker 1: How old are you?
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  Speaker 2: You're like twelve, like twelve or thirteen something along those lines.
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  Speaker 2: So no, but okay, we've been hinting at it the
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  Speaker 2: entire time as far as like basketball, I think the
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  Speaker 2: past like five episodes, we've been talking straight hoops at
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  Speaker 2: the beginning. But okay, before before we go in and
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  Speaker 2: start basketball, because I have a feeling we're gonna do that,
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  Speaker 2: like you're saying we're gonna get through predictions real quick,
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  Speaker 2: but before we start finding us on Twitch, Discord, TikTok,
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  Speaker 2: But you listen to this live or another day, we
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  Speaker 2: likes sports.
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  Speaker 1: But let's go and get straight into it.
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  Speaker 2: Like you're saying the predictions, I am now officially up
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  Speaker 2: the first time of the year eight and seven, and
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  Speaker 2: we both tied as far as I Chicago winning and
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  Speaker 2: you had the Saints win in and then it went
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  Speaker 2: to our over under. You picked forty one. I picked
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  Speaker 2: forty two, and you know what, the point total was
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  Speaker 2: forty three points. That's how close our predictions are getting.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's just back and forth at the entire time.
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  Speaker 2: But we're gonna go and start with this first Thursday
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  Speaker 2: night football game, the very good one, the La Ram
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  Speaker 2: versus the Seattle Seahawks, both with the same record. Seattle's
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  Speaker 2: favored by one and a half at home over runners
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  Speaker 2: forty two and a half. And this is practically for
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  Speaker 2: the division and the one seed right here. So who
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  Speaker 2: is winning this one?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: You know what, dude, I think I'm gonna have to
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  Speaker 3: go with I'm gonna go with Seattle with this one.
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  Speaker 4: I think Seattle's gonna walk away with this win.
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  Speaker 3: It's gonna be one of those ugly matchups, but I
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  Speaker 3: do think it's for some reason.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think it's gonna be a defensive matter.
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  Speaker 3: But I think a lot of people are worried about,
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  Speaker 3: like fantasy football wise, Matthew Stafford doing bad Damien.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't know. I feel like both teams are
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  Speaker 4: probab to.
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  Speaker 3: Be slinging this thing down the field, Matthew Stafford versus
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  Speaker 3: the goat Darnold and JSN future Super Bowl MVP. So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: give me the Seattle Seahawks in this one.
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  Speaker 2: See Okay, I said before the or before the first game,
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  Speaker 2: I thought the Rams and Seahawks are gonna split. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm taking the Rams here, and I think it's mostly
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  Speaker 2: for the part Seattle's offense has been struggling, like nobody's
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  Speaker 2: been talking about it the past two or three weeks
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  Speaker 2: or so, and the Rams they have a better defense
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  Speaker 2: and majority of these teams right here, so I just
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  Speaker 2: think I think that's gonna.
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  Speaker 4: Be said they have a better defense than the Seattle Seahawks.
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  Speaker 2: No, they do not, But the Rams have a way
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  Speaker 2: better offense than the Seattle Seahawks as of right now.
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  Speaker 2: And Pooka at first, it was Pooka at the beginning
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  Speaker 2: of the year.
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  Speaker 1: Mid season with jayis.
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  Speaker 4: In He's not gonna get married no more.
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  Speaker 1: Wait he said that. Oh man, Pooka is just heartbroken. Bro. Yeah, uh,
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  Speaker 1: poor Pooka.
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  Speaker 2: He'll he'll be fine. But yeah, no, I got the
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  Speaker 2: rams right here. But all right, let's move to these
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  Speaker 2: Saturday games. First Saturday games of the year. It's the
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  Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles versus Washington Commanders. This is in Washington, but
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  Speaker 2: Philly's fired by six and a half over Earns forty
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  Speaker 2: four and a half.
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  Speaker 1: Who you taking?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, give me Philly in this one, even though they've
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  Speaker 3: been struggling. I do. I just feel like Washington sucks
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  Speaker 3: and there's been and Jane Daniels is shut down for
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  Speaker 3: the season. So yeah, we'll go with We'll go with
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  Speaker 3: some Philly in this one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, give me Philly to win this one, and they
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  Speaker 2: finally break the NFC streak since Toot that thousand and four,
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  Speaker 2: nobody has been a back to back winner. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's finally gonna happen. Philly's gonna win it. Just eliminate
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  Speaker 2: the Cowboys from the playoffs at.
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  Speaker 1: This point forward.
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  Speaker 2: But all right, the Saturday Night Football game, it's a
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  Speaker 2: rematch of two weeks ago Green Bay Packers versus Chicago
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  Speaker 2: Bears in Chicago. They're favored by one and a half
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  Speaker 2: over Runners forty six and a half and obviously no
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  Speaker 2: Micah Parsons in this one, So who you're taking?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, give me Chicago in this one. I feel like
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  Speaker 3: I do feel like this is gonna be one of
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  Speaker 3: those matches where they're going back and forth scoring wise.
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  Speaker 3: I just feel like Jordan Love's gonna have this type
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  Speaker 3: of day. But I do think Chicago's gonna come up
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  Speaker 3: with one more stop than the Green Bay Packers in
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  Speaker 3: this one, and they're gonnaultimately win the football game.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I just think in the first matchup, Chicago had such
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  Speaker 2: a bad start and I don't think that's gonna happen again.
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  Speaker 2: They showed in that second half they were clearly the
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  Speaker 2: better team. And obviously there's no Micah Parsons in this game,
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  Speaker 2: and that's a really big deal. It makes it a
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  Speaker 2: lot easier for Ben Johnson and Kleb Williams throughout the game.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, give me Chicago to win. But all right,
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  Speaker 1: as far as the Sunday slate.
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  Speaker 2: Of games, Buffalo Bills versus Cleveland Browns, Buffalo's favored by
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  Speaker 2: ten and a half in Cleveland, over Unders forty one
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  Speaker 2: and a half.
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  Speaker 3: Give me the Buffalo. Oh, give me the Buffalo Bills
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  Speaker 3: in this one. I just felt like it, Yeah I did.
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  Speaker 3: But I just think I'm gonna take Josh Allen on
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  Speaker 3: this one. I feel like he's about to make a
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  Speaker 3: run for that one seed real quick.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, give me, give me Josh Allen the Buffalo Bills.
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  Speaker 2: But I am playing you in fantasy, so Miles Garrett,
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  Speaker 2: I'm depending on you to lock in. I'm depending on
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  Speaker 2: you to lock in. This is a high quarterback scoring league,
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  Speaker 2: so lock in.
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  Speaker 1: Please.
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  Speaker 2: The Bills, y'all can win, that's fine, but hold them
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  Speaker 2: to a calm seventeen points something like that. They just
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  Speaker 2: squeak away with the win. So that's all I'm hoping
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  Speaker 2: for right here. But yeah, Bill's winning. Next one, we
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  Speaker 2: have Chargers versus Cowboys is in Dallas and they're favored
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  Speaker 2: by two and a half over Runders forty nine and
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  Speaker 2: a half, which is the highest of the week.
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  Speaker 1: Who are you taking?
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, I'm gonna go with the Dallas Cowboys in this one.
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  Speaker 3: I think they're gonna push the ball down the field.
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  Speaker 3: That's a must win. I mean, every game for them,
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  Speaker 3: is literally a must win. They have to win. If
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  Speaker 3: not that, they're completely out of the playoffs. So I
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  Speaker 3: did think this is a desperate move for them, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the Dallas Cowboys.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think if we beat the Vikings last week, then
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  Speaker 2: I could have possibly seen an upset brewing. But I
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  Speaker 2: just think the Cowboys offense, Say, Ben, I know we
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  Speaker 2: scored thirty points in back to back weeks over thirty,
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  Speaker 2: but it hasn't been that normal thirty points that happens
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  Speaker 2: a high, flashy, high powering. I think you're gonna see
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  Speaker 2: this from the Cowboys right here. So yeah, give me
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  Speaker 2: the Cowboys as well in this one. But all right now,
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  Speaker 2: as far as Josh's team, Kan City Chiefs versus Tennessee Titans, No,
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  Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, but they are still favored by three in
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  Speaker 2: Tennessee over under thirty seven and a half.
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  Speaker 3: You're going with the Chiefs, No, I am not. I'm
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  Speaker 3: going with the tenn Titans because I need us to
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  Speaker 3: lose every game for the rest of the season. Give
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  Speaker 3: me the Tennessee Titans.
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe it, Josh, this is this is the
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  Speaker 2: first time in pod Hey history.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Phil Yates picked Jeremiah Love to go to us,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm gonna stick by that move. We're gonna keep
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  Speaker 3: pushing for that Doe. We're gonna keep pushing for Jeremiah Love.
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  Speaker 3: So who's gonna be the biggest hater on my team?
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  Speaker 3: It's gonna be It's gonna be me. Damn it, I'm picking.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not picking the Chiefs rest of the season at all.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, I'm it.
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  Speaker 4: May it may it may cost me the win, but
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  Speaker 4: it's gonna mean so much more in the long.
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  Speaker 1: Run with Jeremiah Love.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, this is the first time in pod history you've
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  Speaker 2: ever gone against the Chiefs.
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  Speaker 1: So wow, I have to go with the Chiefs right here.
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  Speaker 2: So Gardner Minshew, he'll he'll do enough to get get
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  Speaker 2: something done. I know Rashid Riyce on concussion protocol but
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  Speaker 2: but hopefully hopefully doesn't applane for as far as the
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  Speaker 2: pick'm sake in this one. But next one Bengals and Dolphins.
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  Speaker 2: Cincinnati's favored by four and a half over Runners forty
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  Speaker 2: seven and a half.
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  Speaker 1: Who you taking?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, give me Quinn yours in the first start.
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  Speaker 3: Trying to with Joe Burrow probably not gonna do that.
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  Speaker 4: So give me Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Cincinnati, they're definitely.
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  Speaker 4: I can't give me Kansas City. I can't go against.
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  Speaker 4: Just give me Kansas City.
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  Speaker 1: Ah booo, you gotta stand on. You got there.
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  Speaker 4: So there's we're so bad, but they're even worse. I can't.
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  Speaker 3: I can't do it. But I want them to win.
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  Speaker 3: I want Tennessee. I want Tennessee to win.
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  Speaker 2: It won't happen, bro, it won't happen. Sadly, I'm just
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  Speaker 2: letting you know. But yeah, no, Bengals, can we just.
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  Speaker 3: Snook at Why can't we just be great at losing?
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  Speaker 3: Why can't we just be great at losing?
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  Speaker 1: Why can't you be just the Saints?
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  Speaker 4: Bro? Can we be the Saints? Saints aren't even great
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  Speaker 4: at losing? Right now?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I know, speaking of the Saints, right hear the going
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  Speaker 2: up against the New York Jets and the Saints are
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  Speaker 2: favored by four and a half over runners forty and
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  Speaker 2: a half. So are the Saints gonna be on a
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  Speaker 2: three game win streak?
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  Speaker 4: You know what?
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  Speaker 3: The mother shucker is gonna start my fantasy team in
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  Speaker 3: Dynasty over Baker Mayfield heading to get me to the championship.
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  Speaker 3: You know why, because he's playing this mediocre defense that
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  Speaker 3: was gassing up again, was gashed up for the Jaguars. Well,
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  Speaker 3: look what mother shucker is gonna do to them in
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  Speaker 3: this game? So give me the New Orleans Saints.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the mother shucking Saints are gonna win this
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  Speaker 2: ball game right here. And at this point, I think
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  Speaker 2: Shuck's gonna throw for seven touchdowns in this one.
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  Speaker 4: I think so there's gonna want to He's gonna.
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  Speaker 2: Do whatever Shuck does. We need to gas it up.
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  Speaker 2: So whatever, whenever we talk about it next week, Brecon's
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  Speaker 2: really gonna be rage baitd in that one.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, give me the Saints. In this next game.
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  Speaker 2: We have right here, Minnesota Vikings versus New York Giants,
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  Speaker 2: and they're favored by three even though it's in New
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  Speaker 2: York over unders forty three and a half.
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  Speaker 1: Who are you taking? You gonna do it?
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with New York in this one.
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  Speaker 3: Feel Jackson Dar's playing right, Jackson Dots Jackson Dark.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, so we're going New York.
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  Speaker 1: You know what this?
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  Speaker 2: I saw nine last week. I saw him last week.
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  Speaker 2: All be it against the Cowboys defense. All be it
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  Speaker 2: against the Cowboys defense. But he was making some good throws.
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  Speaker 2: And I can say this confidently. We might not have
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  Speaker 2: a better defensive line than the Giants. Yes, I'm not arguing, don't.
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  Speaker 2: But as far as secondary and our secondary got cooked,
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  Speaker 2: we have a better secondary and back seven compared to
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  Speaker 2: the Giants.
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  Speaker 1: So I think nine's gonna look good once.
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  Speaker 2: Again, and breaking he'll have another week of defending nine.
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  Speaker 2: But all right, this last twelve o'clock game right here,
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  Speaker 2: which has a lot of stakes for the NFC South
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  Speaker 2: Buccaneers and Panthers, both seven and seven. This is for
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  Speaker 2: the division right here, first ones in Carolina and Town
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  Speaker 2: Bay is favored by three over runners forty five and
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  Speaker 2: a half.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the Bake Show will finally step out of it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, bro, this is tough.
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  Speaker 2: Both teams losses to their rivals too.
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  Speaker 1: It's rough.
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  Speaker 4: Just give me the Bake Show.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just give me the Bake Show in the on on.
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  Speaker 2: We we haven't said said the name Bake Show in
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  Speaker 2: a while. I think that's been the problem for them.
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  Speaker 2: We haven't been gassing them up. That's that's been the problem.
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  Speaker 2: And yep, just follow the Bake Show. But all right,
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  Speaker 2: started the three o'clock games right here, this first one
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  Speaker 2: amount of Falcons.
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  Speaker 4: Oh not yet, not yet, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll get to that.
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  Speaker 2: In his Cardinals versus Falcons, Atlanta's favored by three in Arizona,
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  Speaker 2: Oh Runners forty eight and a half.
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  Speaker 4: Who you taking, Brissett? Rise up, baby, Rise up.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody traded for you in Dynasty for this is what
• 13:15
  Speaker 3: I trade for you in Dynasty, for times like this,
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  Speaker 3: For when Mahomes or Allen was gonna go down, I said,
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  Speaker 3: insurance policy.
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  Speaker 4: I sent Theo Johnson a young promising to the boy
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  Speaker 4: Fonso and Isaiah Bond.
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  Speaker 3: In return, I received old Mark Andrews and old Jacobe Brissett.
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  Speaker 4: But for one thing, only for one thing.
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  Speaker 3: I knew he's not gonna be on this Dynasty team
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  Speaker 3: next season, but I needed him this season.
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  Speaker 4: I need Jacoby Brissett this season.
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  Speaker 3: You haven't finished below QB twelve one time since you
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  Speaker 3: took over, and it's not happening against Atlanta, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 4: We saw Baker go off last week even though they lost.
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  Speaker 4: I need the same, Jacoby. I need the same.
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  Speaker 3: I need you to get the ball to the outside,
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  Speaker 3: to the Stanford man himself.
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  Speaker 4: I need you to get the ball to the one
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  Speaker 4: with two dads.
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  Speaker 3: I need you to get the ball too, Barvin Harrison Junior, I.
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  Speaker 4: Need you to work.
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  Speaker 3: You're Jacoby Brissette magic versus the Atlanta Falcons and drop
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  Speaker 3: thirty five on their bean top. All right, let's go,
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  Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissette, rise up, give me Arizona.
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: You know what.
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  Speaker 2: That is a great speech right there, but all for
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  Speaker 2: it just to be Arizona losing to Atlanta right here
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  Speaker 2: in all honesty.
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  Speaker 1: But okay, as long as he puts.
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  Speaker 4: Thirty five and loses, I'll be completely happy. I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, Yeah, you're right.
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  Speaker 2: But as far as a little bit behind the scenes,
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  Speaker 2: I think we just got done recording a Predictions episode.
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  Speaker 2: Then Josh and I were talking about it, and Josh
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  Speaker 2: he's like, you know what, I need Jacobe Brissett from
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  Speaker 2: your team. He's like, you know, just in case I
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  Speaker 2: don't think i'll need him, Mahomes or Josh Allen goes down.
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  Speaker 2: So like just a random trade, like nobody like blinkedn
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  Speaker 2: ied for it. Honestly, Josh, that was your most important
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  Speaker 2: trade of the all the trades that I made. And
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: for the people listening to this, Josh I'm not even exaggerating.
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  Speaker 2: Has made close to twenty trades within the season, Like
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  Speaker 2: from the draft to now, he's made twenty trades, and
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  Speaker 2: like big time trades. Jayson Saquan, Josh Allen, Jakobe Psett
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  Speaker 2: is his biggest acquisition because he's in the.
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  Speaker 4: Traded for Mahomes.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh you did trade Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 4: No, basically all my team I.
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  Speaker 1: Traded Jayson, Derek was traded for.
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  Speaker 3: Brians was traded for that that is, Jayleen Cocher was
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  Speaker 3: traded for, traded for I don't starter, Yeah, Jaden Higgins
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  Speaker 3: was traded for everybody, everybody starting for me was traded
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  Speaker 3: for No.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for real, this this is the most important one
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  Speaker 2: right here. So just just you, I'm telling you, Josh,
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  Speaker 2: whenever we win the championship, we yes, we I'm part.
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  Speaker 1: Of this right here, don't worry. Don't worry.
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: No, But yeah, what's gonna lead me through the playoffs?
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: Who knew who?
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: But all right, as far as they write stories about
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: the type of run they write stories about.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Honestly, we're gonna have to We're gonna have to backtrack
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: to this one next week. We're gonna see how well
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: this one we just have to talk about the Cardinals
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: and Falcons just based on your dynasty roster. But as
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: far as this, which I know Josh was a lot,
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: he's gonna say that. He's gonna say the overrated teams
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: right here, jack Wires versus Broncos a really good matchup.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Ten and four, twelve and two.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Broncos are seven no at home and they're favored by
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: three over runners forty six and a half.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: So who are you taking in this matchup?
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: In the Battle of the frauds, Battle of the fraudulent teams,
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Battle of the overrated teams, Battle of lucky wins, I'm
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: gonna take the Denver Broncos at home versus the Jacksonville Jaguars.
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: And yeah, I really have no other explanation.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: But besides, both these teams are really bad, and I'm
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: gonna go with the Denver Broncos.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Like like I mentioned on the Monday Pod, the Broncos
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: there they are a legit team, and the Jaguars They're
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: not as legit as the Broncos, but they are a
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: legit team.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: I have a three minute clip that says, otherwise, you.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Know what, I could name three Jets players you didn't
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: ask me that question for a certain reason, for a
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: certain reason. But yeah, no, Broncos are winning this one.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be a tough matchup, it's gonna be a
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: fun one. But yeah no, Broncos barely win this one.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: As far as this next one, Steelers versus Lions, in
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: which Detroit's fared by seven in this one, this is
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: the highest one fifty one and a half.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Expecting some points on the board. Who is winning this ballgame?
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: You're gonna do it?
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: No, I hate DK. I'm gonna go with to chart Lions.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: It's just DK Metcalf and Okay, I'm taking the Lions too,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: But I just want to say, fantasy football wise, I
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: don't know if you follow Jamir Gibbs's trend for the
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: past eight weeks, it's been three touchdowns none three none,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: three none.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: It has been like that for a while. Last week
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: he had zero touchdowns.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Well, he's gonna have zero again this week because I
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: I cannot take it.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, He's gonna have three touchdowns. The trend, the
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: trend is gonna happen, Josh. I'm sorry to break it
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: to you.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: But as far as this last three o'clock game, which
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: I don't even feel like we should be talking about this.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Houston Texans versus the Las Vegas Raiders fired by fourteen
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: and a half over under thirty seven and a half.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: How much are the Texans winning by?
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, give me Houston, They're winning by full fourteen points.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: I think they're winning by like twenty four.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: Honestly, I think it's fourteen points.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: You're just gonna go with the spread. You can go
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: with the spread right there.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: I didn't even look at the spread.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: I just feel like the Texans for some reason, are
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: gonna score in this game.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: Like, I just feel like like.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: If the Texans can't score against the Raiders, bro oh Man,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: there's genuine concerns for them, and offense is the only problem. Well,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: let's get to the Sunday night football game, which I'm
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: genuinely surprised at this line. New England Patriots coming off
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: the loss versus the Ravens, who are fighting for their playoff.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Hopes, is in Baltimore.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Baltimore is favored by three over unders forty and a half.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Who are you taking?
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, give me New England. Yeah, They're Ravens are chopped.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I don't know how the Ravens happen to
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: be favored and their offense is so oh bad, and
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: the Patriots are coming off of a loss. And this
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: is primetime stage. This is this is gonna be a
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Drake May game right here where he's.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Gonna pop off.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: But all right, last game Niners versus Colts, Monday Night Football,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Philip Rivers, second start.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: This is in Indy.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: But the Niners are favored by six over r owners
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: forty six and a half. Are you going with the
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: old man Philip here?
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: No, I am not. I'm going with the San Fransco
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: forty nine ers.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, give me the Niners in this one.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: And all right, just to make sure I have the predictions, right,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: you have Seattle, I have the Rams, you have the Giants,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: I have the Vikings, and then you have Jacoby Brissett
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: and I have the Falcons.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: All right, so that's a perfect three.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: So we don't have to worry about no tie breakers,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: no nothing. So as far as with the NFL fans
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: that are probably gonna get off after this, I hope
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: you guys tune into the NBA because it's gonna be
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: really interest But we appreciate you guys listening up to
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: this part and Josh, it's officially time. Josh, it's officially
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: you know what. Clap clap it up, clap it up.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: It is.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: It's time.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: We've we've delayed this for so long and not not purposely,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: it's just happened and just a little bit behind the scenes.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: That was one time before Josh and I did a
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: predictions pod.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: It was like two or three weeks ago.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: We were talking before just NBA, like for a good
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: hour or so, and we're like, why didn't we just
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: record this, Like we we could have just recorded this
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: a long time ago. But officially, we're just gonna start
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: it off, and I just want to start it off
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: as far as with let me just go with the
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: top three seeds or top five seeds in each conference
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: and we'll just go from there. Eastern Conference Pistons twenty
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: one and five, Next eighteen and seven, Raptors sixteen and eleven,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Celtics fifteen eleven, Magic fifteen and eleven. As far as
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: the dominant Western Conference right here, Thunder twenty four and two,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Nuggets nineteen and six, Lakers eighteen and seven, Spurs eighteen
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: and seven, and the and the Rockets sixteen and seven
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: in this one.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: So you know what, let's go and get this big
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: domino out the way.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: How do you feel about the Spurs start to the
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: season this year?
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: Hold, I'm trying to figure. I don't know, dude. It's
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: because my thing.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: I'll getting to Yahoo instead of just Google, instead of Google,
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: and it's giving me the divisions I don't need.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: We don't go by divisions in the NBA. We don't
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: do divisions in the NBA.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: This isn't football, bro, this is this isn't.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: Football, bro. All right, there we go.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: No, But how do I feel about these San Antonio Spurs? Well,
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: nine and three without Wimby is a really nice. Wimby
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: coming in and dominating the Oklahoma City Thunder in twenty
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: minutes a game play sounds really nice. The three the
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: best three guard tree in the NBA seems really nice.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Two three candidates for defensive for six Man of the
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Year feels pretty nice. Luke Cornett, Keldon Johnson, and he
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: might not win Rookie of the Year because of the
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: minutes he's playing, but he might damn will win six
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Men of the Year. And that's Dylan Harper. Mitch Johnson
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: looking like the coach of the year right now. Put
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: in the No one thought the Spurs were gonna be
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: this good. They thought they were gonna be around the
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: eighth spot, around the seventh spot, maybe the sixth. But
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: he has them in fource. He has them eighteen and
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: seven one game. And no, it's not even the crazy part.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: All the teams around them, Minnesota, Houston, Los Angeles, Denver, Ok,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: every single one of those teams have all taken l's,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: and every single one of those teams that have taken
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: an L to the San Antonio Spurs.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: Hey, this isn't this.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: I've heard many people say that this Spurs team, they
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: had a rough one.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: Versus New York next in the NBA Cup.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: They just went cold in that fourth quarter, really couldn't
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: put down a shot. It was Knicks had a good day.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Tyler Kolex shout out the goat, you know.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: But but.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: As far as these teams, everyone's saying in the future,
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: when are the Spurs gonna be good?
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Win?
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Are the Spurs gonna make that contender jump? When are
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: the Spurs gonna be a real threat in the West?
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Maybe one or two years down the line. Well, damn,
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: it is not one or two years down the line.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: It's right now.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: The Spurs right now are a contender.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: They're if and you want to be completely honest, there's
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: one team that really has a real shot versus Oklahoma
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: City Thunder because they match up with them the best,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: and they have the best player in the world, and
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: they have the three best guard trio in the entire NBA,
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: and they have one of the top ten offense and
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: a top ten defense, top five, number one defense all
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: time when one man is playing on the court, and
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: that's Victor win Binyama and the San Antonio Spurs are
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: the only hope, the only hope to beat the Oklahoma
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: City Thunder, to keep the Oklahoma City Thunder from making
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: the their second straight NBA Finals, because we saw it
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: in this last game.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: We saw it when they played with the Oklahoma City Thunder.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: The Spurs were down sixteen points.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and at one point in that game, but you
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: know when the best player everyone like, what does Farms
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: will say, everyone looks like a Rolls Royce to a
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Rolls Royce pulls up, Well, Shaye looked like a Rolls Royce.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: But when the Rolls Royce pulled up in twenty minutes,
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: a gameplay seven minutes a game play, he was already
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: plus twenty three in seven minutes, two for three, four rebounds,
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: one block. They came back, went on a fourteen to
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: zero run twice in this game. When he came onto
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: the court, the most impactful player in all of basketball, what.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: Did he say? He said, Yo Kicch is the best offensive.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Player in the world. Giannis and Shay are the best
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: players in the world. But when I step on the court,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: I'm the best player in the world.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: That's mister Yama. And what did he say about this?
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: This rivalry they want to cook up with that, others
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: with that, with that chet home grin who can't even
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: hold his hurst dog, who can't even hold with Victor
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: wimban Yama has.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: He says, it's.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Easy to score when you got the MVP on the court.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: It's easy to score when you got the MVP on
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: the court. Brush them off, Bro, we ain't even on
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: the same stratosphere. We ain't even on the same planet.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: I ain't worried about you. The San Joins Furs are
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: for real. They're playing with confidence. Their coaching is confident.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: This team looks like the guys that have State Devin Vasell,
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: Kilden Johnson. They look like they are horsing Barnes than ever.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Harrison Barnes, barn Harrison bars. There's been games this year
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: where Harrison Barnes has scored thirty plus and took us
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: to dubs.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: He's been the most clubbed year in Fox, averaging twenty six.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: When Wimby was off the court, when Wimby was hurt,
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: when Dylan Harper was hurt, when Stefan Castle was hurt.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: This team has all the answers and all the problem
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: they have, and their three point shooting don't even get
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: started on three point shooting. Their top ten in the
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: NBA behind Julian Champagne and Harrison Barnes and Devon Vasselle.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: Devin Veasell playing his role. Talk about a man playing
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: his role.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Devin Vessell is making tough bucket after tough bucket and
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: knocking down big shots after big shots. I don't I
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: could go on for a whole nother hour, but we
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: have other teams to talk about. Just so you know,
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: the San Antonio Spurs are here. They're here, and they're
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: here to stay because you know why, you know why,
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: raining rookie of the Year, the number two overall draft pick,
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: best player in the world, all underneath twenty two years
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: old in the story.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, so I'll say this as far as from somebody
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: who's not a Spurs fan here, I think everybody was
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: consensedly expecting Wimby to make a jump and you saw,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: you saw how great he looked whenever he was playing
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: on the court. Defensively, well, we've already known since the
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: draft he was gonna be the best defensive player. Offensively,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: he took it to another level and now he's a
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: three level score at this point. And really the only
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: person that can stop Wimby offensively is himself.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: It really is just Howard Thesis Suns.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, or the Phoenix Suns yet, and they're gonna be
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: doubling him and making it or forcing him to make
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: the right pass. And I think he's slowly starting to
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: figure his way out of that. And I just think
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: the Spurs they are contenders as of this year. I'll
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: say that, but I'll also say this, we need to see.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Not Wimby in a playoff series.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: We need to see Stefan Cass, we need to see
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Dylan Harper, we need to see all these other guys who,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: yes they are veterans, but besides Dearn Fox, besides Harrison Barnes,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: nobody really has had meaningful playoff minutes in a seven
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: game series, and especially against a loaded Western conference where
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: the first matchup right now would be the Rockets, That'd
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: be a fifty to fifty in my opinion right there,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: as far as they're a season team who's been in
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: the playoffs. So as of right now, I feel like
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: the Spurs are gonna be that team where's we know
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: they're gonna be dominant in the regular season. We just
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: need to see how the others are gonna be in
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: a playoff series, in a seven game series, that's gonna
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: be the biggest thing in my opinion. But as far
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: as Wimby, if Wimby just stays healthy within these next
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: from right now to the next five years, the Spurs have,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: besides the Thunder, the best championship window out of anybody
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: in the NBA. You could line it up with the Nuggets,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: the Lakers, the Rockets, the Pistons, any buddy. They have
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: the second best window of anybody throughout the NBA.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: And it's it's looking very, very scary.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: And I feel like this is a rivalry renewed.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: This is a rivalry like a true they don't like
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: each other, like the Spurs and the Thunder do not.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: Like each other. There's real there's real beef between.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: Like Wimby is out to say, like, why is this
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: guy even in my comparison? You know?
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: Why is he?
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: Every time every time Chet home Gren goes inside, Wimby
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: is like, oh, yeah, you're not scoring. I'm blocking everything
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: you're putting up, Like if he does, Chet has only
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: scored on catching shoot threes. And when Check missed that
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: free throw, Wimby, yeah, louder than everybody else in the entire.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Was the biggest hater bro. Honestly, I love it though,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: like you and have.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: To see the guard wanting to each take a crack
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: at Sga, like each every single one of them want
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: a piece of him.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Like so it's kind of like, hey.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, okay.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: One last thing I want to talk about the Spurs
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: with is I know we always bring it up off
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: the pod, but it's like their offense never fades because
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: they always have one of the three guards in and
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Darren Fox he's more of the scorer as of this point,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: but Stefan Castle he's the one that's gonna get everybody
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: going in the offense. And Dylan Harper, I feel like
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: he's kind of time. He's kind of in the middle between,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: like where maybe he's not the scorer polish like Darren
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Fox right now, or the passer like Stefan Castle, but
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: he's kind of in between where it might not be
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: as polished as those guys, but it's consistent enough where
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: you won't fall off. So it's at the point where
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Wimby he doesn't obviously want to be the focal point offensively,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: but he doesn't have to be that focal point offensively,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: so where he can focus on being the best defensive
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: player in the world, he can do that. And like
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: you're saying, the perimeter guys for the Spurs defensively with
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: those and honestly, if the Spurs they get Tray Murphy,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: let's just say they don't have to trade away.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: It'd have to be.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Killed and in some pigs and something like that. If
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: they get Tray Murphy, I would love.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: To have trade Murphy.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: My thing is, though I don't think the Spurs are
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: gonna trade Kelden just based off of like love of Kilden,
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: you know, like not that like based off like we're
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: finally good.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: We're not gonna trade you when we're good.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: You know, Like I think it's one of those loyalty
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: aspects of like you've been here throughout your entire career
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: at least one more year. I do think there is
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: one man that's on the way out because Jeremy so Han.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: I do think Jeremy so Han is getting prepared to
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: be put in a trade package somewhere, like I really
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: do think so. I don't know who exactly for I
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: don't know how much of his stock is deteriorated, because
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: there was at one point some real like upside for
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Jeremy Sohn, but he's been completely phased out of the team.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: He's the last four he didn't he's not even touch
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: court the last four games. And yeah, so I think
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: him and a couple of draft picks are maybe on
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: the move. I think Jeremy so Hen may be on
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: the move and I don't know who they would add.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: But how would you feel about Okay, I know it
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: sounds like a crazy trade package, but like say five
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: first round picks Jeremy so Hand for Larry because like
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: you're not giving up players or giving up picks.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: It won't be three was.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: So bad the contract for like not bad, but I
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: just feel like I'd rather go get another perimeter defender.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: I'd rather trade Jeremy for Herb Jones.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Herb Jones. I love me some Herb Jones.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Bro Uh, I just okay, what if it's Luke Cornett
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: and Jeremy so Han for Lari and a couple picks.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: The thing is with with Luke Cornett, I think his
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: his defense off the bench offers so much more value
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: than people are realizing, you know, Like I think they've
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: been waiting for this secondary defender where the defense doesn't
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: take too much of a step back. Like, look, he started,
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: Luke Cornett started a bunch of games this season, and
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: we didn't miss it.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: We missed the beat defensively.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: Obviously you don't replicate Wimby, but he was tool against
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: every team, you know. Yeah, So it's just one of
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: those things like I don't think the Spurs are gonna
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: move off and they just paid him four years forty mil.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: That's the four years, forty four million dollars right now
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: for Luke Cornett looks like the best deal.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: In the NBA. So I feel like I don't think
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: they move off of Luke Cornett.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just I'm glad that the Spurs they
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: stood pat. I know, those whole the whole Yanna sweepstakes
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: during the beginning of the draft.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: And even right now, like even right now what they
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: already said, We're not trading Harper or Stefan Castle, so
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: keep it.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like it was a great move by the
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Spurs because I think Wimby is so good that he
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: he jumps the timeline by himself, like he speeds up
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: everybody's timeline for Dylan Harper, for Stephan Castle. You have
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: to capitalize. And I talked about it with Josh yesterday
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: whenever we were at Riots. If Wimby god forbid injuries
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: they happened to him, he could sign a contract where
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: it's not the Supermax or all NBA. He could be
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: three years into the NBA, they re up him and
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: it could be one of the cheapest superstar contracts in
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: NBA history for one of the best on production or
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: on court production players. So I'm just saying this might
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: be the only other guy is maybe Steph Curry. Remember
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: when he had those ankle injuries and he signed like
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: a five for eighty million dollar deal and that allowed
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: them Draymond Klay, Thompson, Kevin Durant.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, I hope that doesn't happen.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: I hope he finally is able to win his rightful
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: dpo y and make an All NBA team.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: But I'm just saying that's an interesting thing.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: But as far as some teams right here, we need
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: to talk about the Oklahoma City Thunder right now and
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: the crazy start that they're on twenty four and two,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: which yes, they did lose to the Spurs, but they
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: are on pace right now at least to match the
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: seventy three and nine Golden State Warriors. So before as
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: far as we talk about the team right here, just
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: I need to ask you, are they going to break
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: the record.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they are.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: I think they're gonna lose at least six games for
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: them being to the San Antonio Spurs.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: But honestly, we're a bias sports podcast.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: We've said this before, you know, But but as far
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: as Oklahoma City Thunder, it's it's amazing what they're doing.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Like I do think they're one of the most complete
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: teams I have ever watched in all my years of
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: watching basketball. They do not miss the beat. They have
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: defenders Galore Hartenstein.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: When he gets into his spot in.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: The paint, that drop, that floater in front of the rim,
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: it's money every single time. Chet home Grin and Jdubb. Okay,
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: I had a conversation the other day that blew my mind.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: But that's in the conversation for another day. But those two,
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: they know how to play their roles. Chet knows what
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: he is defensively and what he has to do. J
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: Dub is that secondary scorer that can get to the
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: rack at all three levels and also play two way.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: They have it all. And it's not just the top
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: end guys that they have. I mean, AJ Mitchell has
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: taken such a jump. What's he averaging right now? Four
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: like almost fifteen points per game. Isaiah Joe has been
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: banged up, so they're missing a three point shooter off
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: the bench.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: But let's talk about Alex Caruso.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Defensively, Lou Dort defensively, Caseen Wallace defensively. Every switch out
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: that they make, there's always a willing and able defender,
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: and I think that's what makes them so great. The
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: San antoninuos persion Oklahoma City Thunder game was one of
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: the best defensive matches we have watched in a long time.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: You know, and I know they'se both scored over one
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: hundred points. Back in the day, a good defensive match
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: would have been seventy to eighty something like that. But
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: for today's NBA standards, that is amazing basketball. And the
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: fact that Oklahoma City Thunder can do that night in
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: and night out, and the reason why they teams by
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: thirty is because of their defense. Their defense never stops,
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: never stops. They have guys constantly coming off the bench
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: that are willing and have fire underneath them.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: And as far as SGA, we're gonna have.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: To get to a point where we're gonna talk about
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: best peaks in NBA history, Like it's gonna be comparable
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: to Antonio, to an Antonio Brown type peak that SGA
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: is having right now. I know that's a crazy comparison,
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: but that's kind of what I'm thinking of, Like the
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: level of magnitude of.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: Peaks board that you reach.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: SGA is hitting that right now, like there was a
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: like SGA is he's coming off MVP, He's.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: Led the league in scoring what three times? Three times
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: two or three times already? Yeah, something like that.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: But he's at least made All NBA five times in
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: this eight at least five times in this eight years,
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: and coming off an NBA championship, ill lead this team.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: It's gonna sound crazy, really.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Crazy to say out loud, but this peak would be
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: better than anything that KD has ever done, would be
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: better than anything Russell Westbrook has ever done, would be
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: better than anything James Harden has ever done, anything better
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: than Kawhi Leonard has ever done, anything better than some
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: of these top guys of all time have ever done.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Like not even not even Wade, not even any of
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: these guys have ever reached this level.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Can I say something crazy? This is on a level
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: of ninety ninety one and then the following year ninety
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: two ninety three of Michael Jordan. As crazy as this
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: sounds like, we're seeing this in the forefront. He is
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: not only as good defensively as Michael Jordan, he is
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: scoring just as much and is way more efficient than
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Michael Jordan.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like a whole fifteen field goal percentage.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: And like people they are gonna talk about the teams,
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: but they're very comparable, they're very he.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: Plays on selfish basketball like he plays on selfish basketball
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: like there's a I will say, I don't think Kobe
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: ever had a peak like this. I don't think I
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: don't think there's a lot of people like it's gonna
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: sound crazy, but I'm not saying career wise. Career wise
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: is different. But we're talking about peak for peaks. Who
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: is the best.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: Player at this time.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, we have Nicol Joki still in the NBA
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: right now, but we're talking about with team success plus
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: your success Oklahoma City Thunder right now, Esga is doing
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: something we haven't seen in quite a long time, since
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: maybe Lebron in his MVP years and Michael Jordan. Like this,
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: this is basketball that you will probably never you'll see
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: a game by someone, obviously because the records are meant
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: to be broken, but as of right now, what SGA
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: is doing, you can only sit back and appreciate basketball.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: I think he's doing something. He's doing something that only
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: four other guys have done in NBA history, Larry Bird, Kareem,
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Michael Jordan, and Lebron.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: Where as far as just named Well and Shack. I
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: feel like and.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Shack whah yeah.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, so five five different people where they've completely dominated
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: a single run. I think he could go you've at
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: least had all these guys go on a two or
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: three year around.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: If he goes back to back and if he goes
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: back to.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Back, back to back MVPs and okay.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: So serious conversation. We're Shaye ranked right now top twenty five.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: He okay, as early as it sounds, I'd rather be early.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be early to the party. I'm gonna say,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: let's just say he retires after this year top twenty player.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: Top twenty Okay, So for me, I.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Already put him above Dwayne Wade.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: As far as easily. Easily. I don't think.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Dwayne Wade's on that twenty level. He's on that twenty level. Like,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: let's be real, if it wasn't for Nicola Jokic doing
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: something or almost doing something only Larry Bird has ever done, like,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: there'd be no comparison. Honestly, Like, Nikola Joki is gonna
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: be a top ten player when it's all said and done,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: so it kind of overshadows what Shay's.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Doing right now.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: He's he's following suit right behind him. And I know
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Dam's not gonna want to hear this. I know you're
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: in this chat right now, and I'm gonna look dead
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: in the camera when I say this. If Shane wins
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: a championship this year, as crazy as it sounds, MVP,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: we're gonna have debates on who's better all time? And
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: I'm looking dead in the camera in this. We're gonna
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: have debates on who's better all time.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: I mean it's true.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: I mean two championship, two MVPs, and he's gonna have.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: And they're gonna break the record. What if.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: It might even be close to steph Like if you're
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: able to complete the championship, if you're able to complete
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: the championship and win, break the record also plus MVP.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: Don't have to and next year you're gonna about to
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: get another top five pick, top ten, pick.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: Two and keep adding on to this.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Oklahoma City Thunder are Thomas Toorbert is not
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: even playing this year, Nicole, so it's like Nicola topin.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: I mean for me, I don't know, I'm kind of
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: out on the Nikola topic topic what happened? But yeah, yeah,
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: after the cancer and stuff, like that. But as far
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: as Thomas Rbert that was supposed to be a top
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: ten pick that failed to them what number fifteen because
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: of injury. So yeah, give, I just feel like the
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: thunder right now. And he has guys that want to
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: play with him, you know he has they're not at
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: this that they have right now.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: They all they're all best friends.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Like you can literally tell they're all gonna be in
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: this for the long run together, Like especially the Major three,
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: they're together for at least four to five years.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and like, okay, I know you're crazy.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: It sounds crazy saying this right now, but it's just like,
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: whenever it's all said and done, say Shay completes the record,
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: wins a championship, when can you say other than Michael Jordan,
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: other than Michael Jordan.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: Who whose peak was the best?
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, you cannot argue anybody else, Like like Lebron
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: couldn't say he've done that, He's done that, Kareem Shaq, Kobe,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Tim Duncan, as far as.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: Whoa, whoa, that's where we draw the line.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: As crazy as crazy as it sounds for a two
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: year peak, for a two year peak, then you could, okay,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: maybe Bron from twenty twenty thirteen to fifteen.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: I mean Duncan did win back to back MVPs in
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: the early two thousands and in the championship, so there
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: were championships back to back MVPs.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm see okay, but like.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Again, you could argue two guys Lebron and Lebron and
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: mj it again, it's crazy, it's crazy win. But yes, eventually,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: I know you're trying to just butter up Josh right now, Damien,
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: But yeah, no, the thunder like you were saying as
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: far as like this team right now, and honestly, like
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: I don't even think they're really hidden their ceiling yet,
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: like in all honesty, as crazy as it sounds like there,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: their starters aren't even having to play all four quarters.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: They're out by three in the third quarter with like
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: four minutes left. That's how dominant this team has been.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: They have a seventeen point differential, as that is crazy
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: to say in the modern NBA you have a seventeen
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: point differential with how with how crazy the three point
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: shot is and there's no such thing as a double
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: digit lead in the NBA.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: So let's just go it and like go with these.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Next three tiers of teams because I feel like this,
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: these are the other ones in the Western Conference that
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: really are formidable and can make some noise. Denver Nuggets,
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: LA Lakers, Houston Rockets. If you had to pick a
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: bunch at or one of those three three teams to compete,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: because honestly, like you convinced me it's okay see San Antonio,
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: then it's one of the other three. Who would you
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: pick to be the third best in the Western Conference.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: See as crazy as sounds, I'm gonna be I'm gonna
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: eliminate one team immediately. Like for me, I think i'mmediately
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: gonna eliminate one team, and it's gonna be the Los
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Angeles Lakers. I just think that more athletic teams, and
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: we've seen it. They've all their losses have came from
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: teams that are more athletic, can run the court, play
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: great defense, and have a big man inside. They've struggled
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: mightily against those teams, and we saw them. They struggled
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: against the San Antonio Spurs because they were on able
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: to play defense against the trio of guards and keep
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: up with them in transition and stop them from getting
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: to the rack every single time. It just wasn't good
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: because the first time they played the Spurs, both Harper
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: and both Fox were injured, and now they had all
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: of them, and it wasn't even a matchup from the start.
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: The Spurs just held on to the lead and never
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: gave it up.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: As great as Luca is, as great as Austin Reeves
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: has been, and Lebron's taking that little step back to
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: where he's allowed other players to create, but he's still
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: doing this thing, and DeAndre has been a president surprise.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: They don't have enough depth to keep up with these
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: other three teams. It's just as simple as that, and
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: especially in a seven game series, I just don't see
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: it unless Luca goes absolutely nuclear, which is totally doable
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: because he's Luka Doncics. But that's asking a lot of
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: him to do. But if we look at these other two,
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: the Houston Rockets the Denver Nuggets, and I think, for me,
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: you have the best player, and you have arguably the
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: best player in the world in Nikola Jokic right there.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: Plus you have Jamal Murray, you have Cameron Johnson, who
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: I do think is getting a little bit better as
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: the weeks go on and they have a couple, They
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: have all their role players that are willing and able
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: to do what they need to do to win. But
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: as far as the Houston Rockets, they're very intriguing to me.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: I think for the Houston Rockets, when you look at
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: them defensively, they match up well against any buddy in
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: the entire NBA and IF But the only thing is
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: that I think lacks for them is the complete ball handler,
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: where Reed Shepherd has gone a lot better.
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: That's who they're really banking on.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: I just do think for them having Kevin Durant and
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: having Alprin Singgun and having guys that are able to
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: play really, really great defense and go into a death
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: lineup where they're all above six seven and it can
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: all my bad, but they can all but they all
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: play great defense. Yeah, I think I'm gona have to
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: lean towards the Houston Rockets for me, if I'm being
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: completely honest. And I think it also goes down to
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: depth as well. They have guys that can come in
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: on a string whenever they need to and make plays
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: and play great defense. But the thing is, for me,
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: I just think all these teams are going to struggle like,
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: I just don't see a complete world where they are
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: where they're gonna be in a seven game series and
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: able to keep up with Oklahoma City Thunder for a
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: complete seven. So but if I had to pick between
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: the three, it'd be the Houston Rockets.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm with the same lines as you and Okay,
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: I say the Lakers even before the beginning of the year,
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: they were always a team where I viewed they were
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: a trade away from becoming real contenders, and I think
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be.
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: You think they're more than a trade away for some reason.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: I think if they get something along the lines of
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: a trade. I know Trey Murphy, that's the popular name,
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: but Trey Murphy is one of the best. He's like
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's up to the Klay Thompson level,
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Like as far as like a perfect guy that could
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: fit on.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: Any team, Trey Murphy can.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: You could put them in any team and he's gonna
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: be just a great role player for them, and that's
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: exactly what they need. But I think, like the Lakers,
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: if they get Trey Murphy or two solid pieces where
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: it could help out their death or make their starting
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: five where so dominant. I think what's better for the
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: Lakers if they want to compete this year, they have
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: to solidify their starting five where there is no holes
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: at all.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: But my thing is what they're starting five.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: It's complete ISO basketball, Like there's no there's no real
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: movement along that there's no real movement amongst the five
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: when they're all in the court together, Like they don't
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: have a fluid offense, like I think it's all based
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: off of one person getting the rock and getting to
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: the rack or doing what they need to do to
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: put the ball in the basket. Like Luca is the
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: leading the league in ISO place, Austin Reeves is right
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: behind him, He's really close, and then Lebron is the
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: same as well. Like they're all, yeah, creating for themselves.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: And they're one of the worst transition defense offenses in
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: the NFL, in the NFL, in the NBA, Like they
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: they literally have.
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: No transition offense. Like it's all half court and that's it.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: And I think when you're playing teams that are just
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: faster and more athletic than you, they're gonna really struggle.
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: And I get what you're saying.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: If you trade for a guy like Trey Murphy, if
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: you trade for a guy like Herb Drones, if you
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: trade for a guy like I'm going blank on who's
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: available lowry marketen, or you go on for some I
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: just think there's so much more, maybe one or two
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: more pieces that they're away from. I mean, they have
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: like guys like Don Connect who's just made his G
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: League debut literally two day And you look at guys
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: like Jake Lavia. Once, when one guy's hurt, he's playing great,
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: but when all the all three of them are there,
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: he's completely phased out, like he's completely phased out what
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: they got going on. And I think that's the problem,
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: Like there's not enough people that are touching rock within
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: the offense to be able for them to keep up
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: at least with the other teams.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: And okay, I'll say this as of right now, yes
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: it's been the case, but they haven't. This is the
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: first time I think it's been like two weeks or
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: not even two weeks, like a week and a half
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: were they're finally starting to play basketball games together. And Okay,
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: I know I hate I hate this because we always
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: talk about it in the NFL, but it's a lot
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: different in the NBA. Naturally older teams in the playoffs
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: who might not be as athletic, they benefit a lot
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: more in a playoff setting. So I think in the
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: regular season, yes, they will struggle, unless it's big time
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: games for seeding or something along those lines. I think
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: in a playoff setting, again, sometimes it just comes down
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: to who's the dudes on the court. If you're telling
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: me you have in a seven game playoff series you
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: have Luka Doncic and Lebron James on the same court
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: and they're both healthy, then it's gonna be hard to
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: beat them. And I'll say this with the Lakers, they're
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: definitely a lot more physical.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Team compared to Winever. Minnesota face them last year in.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: The playoffs, they up their physicality, so they got one
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: thing done. Now, it's just as far as athleticism, which
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: could kind of be tampered and fixed come a postseason series,
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: But as far as like you're saying, the real threats
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: is the Denver Nuggets and the Houston Rockets. And the
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: biggest thing with the Rockets, if you're telling me their
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: biggest thing is having a ball handler, and you have
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: one of the greatest scorers in NBA history. Then I
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: am not worried about your offense. I'm not worried and
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: I'm and Thompson. Him getting the these minutes as a
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: point guarden or being a secondary ball handler is going
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: to do wonders for him years beyond, Like this is gonna.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: Speed up his process.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: So it does suck as of right now for the
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: Rockets losing Fred van Vliet before the year, But on this.
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: Would look a lot differently.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like they'd be like really like.
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: And plus having a reliable three point shooter. It would,
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: it would, it'd be great. Hey, but there is the
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: point God sitting out there right now. I feel like
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: you could get a second.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: Meme that that is true. But I think he'd just
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: be a backup, Like.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, Like, you know he didn't. He's
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: not gonna be score for you, but he'll get you
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: the ball, bro.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: He's gonna set up your offense.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, I know the Denver Nuggets they have
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: Nicola Jokic and Okay, I know that when Jokis goes
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: off the bench, they're minus seven, which is a lot
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: better than last year there were eighteen. So they they
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: shaped it down by eleven points. But against the Rockets,
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: against the Spurs, against the Thunder maybe not the Lakers.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: Maybe the Lakers, you're not gonna be able to able
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: to get away with that. You're not gonna be able
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: to And Albrin Sengoon, I love me some alburn Sengoon ball.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Like he has been hooping and taking another level with
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: Kevin Durant there, like he's he's a lot better scorer.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: Obviously he has been a passer, but defensively, defensively, Josh,
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: he has taken a jump from last year you saw
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: from the Warrior series to now.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: I do think this is the first year where Kevin
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: Durant's not the best player on his team. I really
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: do think that this is the first year in his
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: whole career where he's not the best player on his team.
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: And it's Alfren Singun.
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: If if there's a player that I worry about the
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: most that plays Victor Wimbinyama, it's not Niki.
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: Jokich, it's Alfred.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: Saying, you just knows how to score on Victor Winbinyama,
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: and he is I love Alfrin Stingoon as well.
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: He just plays for the team I hate the most.
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: And that's the Houston Rockets.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's a real rivalry. Sing Gooon and Winby,
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: that's good.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: And Wimby's are real rivals, not this chet and stuff.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: It's Singoon and Wimby Turkey versus France. Bro.
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: We've been there before.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: It is true.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: But okay, as far as the rest of the Western
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: Conference teams right here, obviously we're not going to break
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: down all these other ones, but as far as surprises
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: in this one, I feel like it has to be
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: talked about. As far as two separate teams right here,
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: in my opinion, you can you can name some other ones,
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: the La Clippers and the Dallas Mavericks, which the Mavericks
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: have been playing a lot better as of recently, now
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: that there's a real point guard in Cooper Flag looks amazing,
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: looks amazing. But the Clippers they completely filtered and it
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: went from bad to worse.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: So you you start off with that.
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: And I forgot who has their first round draft pick
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: this year?
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: The Thunder the Thunder right now.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: I I knew the Thunder had a topic, I just
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: remember exactly whose it was, and makes a lot of
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: sense from the SGA trade with the Paul George still
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: haunting them to his day, you know so. But we
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: look at the Los Angeles Clippers. Dude, we've been saying it,
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: blow it up.
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: Give it up.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like you know, like you're trying to hold onto
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: these aging James Harden not the problem.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: Like James Harden is not the want. If you watch basketball, James.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: Harden is absolutely balling like he could do. That's someone
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: that I think contenders should go make him if there's
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: a Houston Rockets team that wants to make a move
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: for someone else to handle the Rocks.
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: He's not the same.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: Score he used to be, but you know what he
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: still is. He still is a passer, like he's still
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: getting people of the ball and James and drop it
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: twenty He's gonna give you twenty and eight. He's gonna
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: give you twenty and eight. I think the only reason
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: they don't they don't do it. It's gonna hurt the
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: development of each Shepherd. So I understand why they don't
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: do it. But there's other teams out there that could
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: use a help from James Harden. Go get James Harden.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: As far as Kawhi Leonard Man, as far as Kawhi
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: Leonard man, I think Kawhi Leonard is the one of
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: the biggest what ifs in NBA history. I really do think,
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: what if he wasn't such a jackass and stay on
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: the spurs, you know. So now look at his career.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: He's doing the same crap everywhere else.
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: So yeah, so I feel like they need to blow
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: it up.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: I think you can get some real, some real movement
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: for a bitch as zubatch, Like he's their real asset
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: that around. He's he's the great defensively, he's actually one
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: of the best players against Nicole Jo Kics in the NBA.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: And then also he can score, like he's a really
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: good scorer if you really give him the opportunities, especially
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: in pick and roll. So I feel like there's some
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: guys that could really use his help. Move go get
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: some cap blow it up. What are we hanging on to? Like,
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: you just got this new stadium, new jerseys, new logo,
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: you need to be able to put I know you
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: still want to look like you're competitive, but holding on
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: for so long has done this six wins on the
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: sea and you have multiple aging guys on this roster.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: Move on, like it's time to blow it up. It's
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: time to start new. It's time to just revamp the
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: whole thing. Like I I I I'm happy the Clippers
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: are losing because I don't know. I'm in West I'm
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: We're in the Western Conference. I just hope teams continue
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: to lose around us. But as far as the Clippers,
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: they have all these guys but nothing to show for it.
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: And they it's literally been like this for years.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: You blew up what was good that the that the
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: that the lob City built to try chasing new players.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: It just hasn't worked out. You trade it the best
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: player in the world, arguably before he even got to
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: the best player of the world, because you wanted to
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: make such a massive move for Kawhi Leonard to push
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: immediately when Paul George led to injuries.
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: Kawhi Leonard still continues to be injured.
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: James Harden is putting everything he has out there for
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: what little bit he has left, and ah.
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: Dang it, it finally died. I knew it was gonna die.
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: I knew it was gonna die.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: Judge, I think his camera might have just died on him.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: I think that's exactly what happened. Yep, his camera just died,
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: Josh're there, No, you're good. No, okay, I'll go ahead
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: and go on to that point. As far as with
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: the Clippers right there, and yeah, I know David mid
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: Rat his camera was just tired of it.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: Maybe his camera was a Clippers fan.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: But no, yeah, just as far as Kawhi Leonard, that's
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: the thing about it.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: Yes, you could attempt to trade Kawhi Leonard.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: Not only is a contract so expensive, but what other
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: team that could possibly be competitive would really want Kawhi
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Leonard on their team? Is a costs or does a
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: benefit outweigh the downside of what Kawhi Leonard really does bring.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: Because Josh and I were talking about it the other day,
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: maybe the Detroit Pistons, since they are the one seed,
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: which we'll talk about in a second, maybe they go
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: try and right the for Kawhi Leonard. But even at that,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: you're giving up so many assets Jaden Ivy, Jalen Durant
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: and some first round picks. You blow up your entire
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: young core for Kawhi Leonard, who, yes, might help you
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: hypothetically in a playoff setting, but do we really know.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: That he's going to help you in a playoff setting?
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: Do we know that he could stay healthy for four rounds,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: and even at that, it's not going to be formidable
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: against any other Western Conference team. And there's a Knicks.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: They have too much cap space. He's not gonna go
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: back to Toronto. And what other Western Conference team would
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: really be willing to trade for Kawhi Leonard.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: The only other one that.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: I could possibly think of, which even at that contractually,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: I don't think it makes sense.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Is a Minnesota Timberwolves.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: Because of Minnesota Temperlewolves, they kind of they're kind of
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: in that rough patch in between stage where they don't
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: have many young players. Anthony Edwards and Rob Dillingham that's
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: only their only young players right there, But maybe a
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: Julius Randall and something along those lines where you get
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: upside offensively even more in a playoff setting Anthony Edwards
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: and Kawhi Leonard, and defensively you get even better. But
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: I just really don't think, nope, or really don't think
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: anybody could honestly trade for Kawhi Leonard and they reap anything.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: Positive out of it.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: But as far as James Harden, just shout out to
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: James Harden's he's the only reason why we're not so
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: terrified of the thunder potentially winning seventy three plus games
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: and having Cameron Bluzer or aj Dominstanya. But I'm gonna
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: go ahead and get onto the MAVs side. Whenever Josh
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: gets here, he could talk about the Clippers more if
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: he wants to. But as far as with the Dallas Mavericks,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: it started off so bad, as far as how the
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: Mavericks started, and how Anthony Davis looked and he wasn't
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: healthy at all, and then Kyrie Irving he's not gonna
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: be back to the All Star break and what they said.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: But now now that they've finally got a real point guard,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: leave it up to be an undrafted Phreezing and Ryan Nimhard.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: But Cooper flag is officially unlocked, and he dropped forty
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: two points.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: I think he was.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: Officially the youngest player Tever dropped forty points behind or
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: I think ahead of Lebron's passing Lebron. But now that
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: he actually has a real point guard next to him,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: Cooper Flagg has been hooping.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: Anthony Davis looks pretty damn.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: Nice, and I feel like with the Mavericks it's gonna
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: be a situation. Where I think they're comparable to the Timberwolves,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: the Sons of Warriors, of Grizzlies, and they're definitely better
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: than the Jazz or honestly better than half of those
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: teams right there. But they're so behind in the standings
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: that I think they're gonna have to be facing for
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: a playoff spot right now. Like compared to the Timberwolves
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: and the Mavericks as of right now, there's a seven
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: game difference. I know it's still early in the season,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: but unless Minnesota and all these other teams start crumbling
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: very badly, then the Mavericks say they'll maybe be a
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: six seed, but I think they're gonna end up being
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: a nine or a ten seed, and maybe again even
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: at that they play the Thunder. But at first it
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: start out really bad for the Mavericks, really really bad.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: But there's been some upside from seeing what Cooper Flagg does.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: And again I think even me, I think Josh could
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: agree to this too. I didn't see that he had
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: this much scoring pop this early. I thought it was
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: gonna take him a couple of years to really develop.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: I thought it was gonna be something like a Jason
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: Tatum where it's not till year five or six he
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: becomes a number one scorer on a championship team. But
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: he's showing that upside as of right now. So I
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: think that's very good right right there. But Derek Lively
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: him being out for the rest of the year, that's
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: unfortunate right there. So we're not gonna be able to
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: see that. Okay, So Josh's gonna be joining back in
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: a second. But yeah, as far as that and some
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: other teams, I'll kind of just touch up on since
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: Josh that still hasn't hear him.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: The New Orleans Pelicans.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: Although they have the worst record in the entire comp
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: all behind the Washington Wizards. Yes, behind the Washington Wizards,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: although they have one of the best or worst records
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: overall in the NBA. Derek Queen, Jeremiah fears Herb Jones,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: and Trey Murphy. Those core four guys are are one
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: of the best young cores in the NBA for sure,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: top ten young cores. I don't know exactly as far
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: as ranking them, but they are missing their main guy,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: and I don't know what happened in Zion Williamson. There
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: was a bunch of hopes as far as him going
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: into the beginning of the season and him losing all
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: that weight. I think they said something along the lines
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: of thirty pounds something like that. But they're just missing
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: their core guy. And I didn't even mentioned Jeremiah Fears.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: So they have a a bunch of young guys and
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: Derek Queen. As crazy as it sounds, I'm not saying
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: that it's gonna end up being a good trade them
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: giving up an unprotected pick to Atlanta, potentially a top
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: five pick.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: But Derek Queen, he's a baller.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: Derek Queen, he has some all NBA potential and I
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: feel like I had to mention that. Hold on, wait,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: give me one second here. I guess I'm gonna have
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: to edit this out right here. I think Damian's still
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: in here. No, but yeah, as far as as far
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: as with that and another team that's been intriguing me
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: so far throughout the entire year, I'll say the Portland
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: Trailblazers as as although it might not be as fun
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: to talk about the Portland trail Blazers. The Portland trail
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: Blazers after the crazy situation with Chauncey Billups and the
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: Internet coach had to step in. They've been playing some
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: decent hoops. They have Danny Avdia, which I don't think
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: nobody's really been talking about because he's averaging dang near
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: twenty five, eight and six up to this point. He's
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: actually a really good basketball player in all honesty. And
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: Donovan Klingen as far as whenever he's on the court,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: they have a five or plus five net rating on
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: the defensive end, so he is already paying dividends. And
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: then Scoot Henderson, who knows what would happen with him,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: Timani Kamara. They have a nice young core. And this
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: is just the Western Conference right here. Everybody has solid
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: young cores. But it's just you have the likes of
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: the thunder Nuggets, Lakers, Spurs, Rockets, and Timberwolves.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: And I think we have to talk about this team
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: right here. The Golden State Warriors. I guess. I guess
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: Josh he's still having difficulties right here.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: But as far as the Warriors, they're so up down.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know what to even think about the Warriors.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: At first, they did start really good. It looked like
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: we were seeing they what we saw as far as
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: the late stretch where they went on that run and
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: they end up becoming one of.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: The top six playoff seats.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: But also Stephan Curry, him being hurt, him being hurt.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: I think for about a combined three weeks up to
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: this point, that's that hasn't been good. But this team
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: is so Steph Curry defense dependent. And Jonathan Kaminia. He
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: has shown spurts of growth this year. He has shown
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: them like very slightly. But but it just isn't it.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: It's not going to be enough to even.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: Compete with the Lakers.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: And we view the Lakers as on a whole different
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: stratosphere compared to the other four teams we talk about
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: in the Western Conference.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: I guess Josh text it on riverside. Now that's weird.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know why Josh isn't able to join.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: But yeah, as far as with the Golden State Warriors, yeah,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: I'm just I feel like even if they do make
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: any trades, I know, those talks about the Anthony Davis sweepstakes,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: which I don't even think it's gonna happen no more.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: With how well the Mavericks have been playing as of late,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: I think they're just in a tough situation where they
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: just kind of have to let this one play out
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: at this point, they really have to let this play out.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: But okay, whenever Josh does join, I'm gonna go ahead
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: and talk about just the Eastern Conference just a little bit,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: and then whenever Josh does join it, we'll just.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: Pick up wherever we left off.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: But I want to talk about the Detroit Pistons right here.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: The Detroit Pistons. They're number one in the Eastern Conference
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: right here, and Kate Cunningham, he is going to be
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: an All NBA player. He's gonna be an All NBA
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: player up to this point, and he has his team,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: which I think everybody didn't expect the Detroit Pistons, Not
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: even a big Pistons fan could have said this. They
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: make this much of a jump this year, and they
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: got up to I believe, a fourteen game win streak
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: up to this point. But usually whenever you're a four
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: or five seeds something along the lines, and especially you're
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: a young team, either au stay in that exact same
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: situation around that range, or you drop down to like
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: a playing team. We've seen that with the Magic before,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: We've seen that with other teams before, where there's kind
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: of a drop off, but you're seeing everybody on the
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: Detroit Pistons play so damn well. And I think what
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: makes them so reliable is that they're not a jump
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: shot of reliant team. Everybody on the Detroit Pistons, they
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: get to the rack. Kate Cunningham already talked about him,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: Jalen Duran, he gets to the rack Ron holland he's
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: kind of shown some flashes. Jayden Ivy, who knows if
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: he's a part of this core, but as of right now,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: he is a very good player for them. And then
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: Asar Thompson, even though offensively it doesn't look as good, defensively,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: one of the best guys in the league. But yeah,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: I just think that the Detroit Pistons, what they're doing
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: as of right now, nobody really expected this. Nobody expected this,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: and I think, honestly, I think they are real contenders
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: in the Eastern Conference.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: There's nobody else.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: I know, there's a New York Knicks, but we saw
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: what a young and experienced Detroit Pistons team did to
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: the Knicks last year, and they went to the Eastern
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: Conference playoffs, albeit the Pacers beat them, But we don't
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: have to worry about the Pacers this year because Halliburn's
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: not there and that team's just imploding up to this point.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: But as far as the New York Knicks right here,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: who just did win the NBA Cup against the Spurs,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: they're a really good team. And I really do like
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: what Mike Brown has been doing offense. He makes it
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: a lot easier. It's not like we were talking about
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: with the Lakers. The Lakers and the Knicks last year,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: they were kind of on the same same level up
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: to the point as far as ISO ball, and it
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: was really either Luka Doncic or Lebron dependent. It was
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: very Jalen brunts and dependent. And although they do as
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: far as their bread and butter do go back to
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: ISO ball, eighty percent of the time, they actually have
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: the depth or actually have actions and sets where they
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: get other people involved. Like oh Jiananobi. He's always been
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: capable of this, but we're seeing this more throughout the year,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: and we saw it yesterday against the Spurs where he
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: was making big time shots and there were real actions,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: real plays compared to Tom Thibodeau. And defensively, there has
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: been a little bit I wouldn't say regression, but a
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: slight slight step down, but with all the perimeter guys
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: they have, they're more than formidable of being a top
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: ten defense whenever it does matter. M kel bridges, he's
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: a consistent sixteen to seventeen points a game.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: And call Anthony.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: Towns as far as we already know how call Anthony
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: Towns is so Josh had to restart his computer. So
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: I believe he should be back soon. I know I've
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: been saying that the fast ten to fifteen minutes, but
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: he should be back soon. But as far as like
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: I was saying with the New York Knicks right here,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: I just I just think that they're also contenders once
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: again in the Eastern Conference. But it's just the Eastern Conference.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: It's so depleted as of right now. We already know
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: as far as with the Yannis injury, how that's ruined
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: the Bucks chances completely, and even at that their team
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: really wasn't that good.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: The Pacers.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: Nobody's worried about the Pacers, But the New York Knicks,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: they have a damn good opportunity this year, and they
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: have the most star power out of anybody in the
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: Eastern Conference this year. They do, without of doubt, and
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: they have to capitalize on this. But I know I
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: talked about it right here a little bit before, but
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: I want to really talk about it now.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: The Boston Celtics. The Boston Celtics, I wouldn't.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: Say they were as bad as the Maps were at
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: the beginning of the year, but the Boston Celtics, at
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: the beginning of the year, it was looking very rough
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: and it looked like this team was imploding and going
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: towards a top pick. But they completely changed things around
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: and now they're the four seat in the Eastern Conference.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: In which the news happened, I think it broke as
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: far as like two or three weeks ago. Jason Tatum
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: plans on returning this year, which is insane. I don't
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: know how healthy that is or how great his recovery's going.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: I think he should just bel on the season. It
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter how good, it doesn't matter how good that
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: this Celtics team can potentially be. And I think Jalen Brown,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: what he's been showing this year as a number one option,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: he's more than formidable enough to carry a team to
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: a playoffs and we could see what he does like
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: up to this point, he's shooting fifty percent from the
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: field and damn near averaging thirty and five assists. Yeah,
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: thirty thirty six and five up to this point. So
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: Jylen Brown as a number one option, which I think
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: everybody knew he could do, we just had to see
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: at the beginning of the year. I think that's where
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: it was. That's why the Celtics were struggling because Jaylen
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: Brown was used to being that number two option. But
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: now that he is the guy in ultra aggressive there,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: I think now he's flourishing in this role. So again,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: if Jason Tatum does come back first, I want to say,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know how good he's gonna be year one
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: off of Achilles tear. The only guy we've seen in
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: the NBA be great year one off of Achilles tear
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: is Kevin Durant, which Jason Tatum he's up to that level.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: But again that's Kevin Durant up so and as far
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: as just his team, it's still although they don't have
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: the names, all of these guys are still good. Like
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: Sam how is a reliable three point shooter. Obviously, obviously
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: you have Derek White, you have Peyton Pritchard, even Chris Bouchet,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: he's surprisingly been good this year, and another guy is
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: Jordan Walsh. These younger guys are stepping up. Anthony Simmons,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: he's kind of been a little bit of a disappointment
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: this year.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: But let's see.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: Wow, I guess I guess Josh won't be able to
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: join this one right here, so I guess I'm gonna
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: have to wrap this one up by myself. But yeah,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: as far as the Celtics, I think that the Boston Celtics,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: I think that they could be I wouldn't say necessarily
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: contenders in the Eastern Conference. I won't go that far
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: just because Jlen Brown he's not up to the levels
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: of a Jalen Brunson or Kate Cunningham.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: Maybe he can be.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: He's putting up the stats as far as up to
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: this point, but I don't think he Jalen Brunson and
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: Kate Cunningham their top ten. They could arguably be top
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: ten players in the NBA. I think I think Jalen
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: Brown at max can be a top twenty player, maybe
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: around the eighteen range, maybe fifteen. Maybe you could argue
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: a way up to fifteen, but I really don't think so.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: But as far as another team in the Eastern Conference
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: I want to talk about is the Orlando Magic.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: The Orlando Magic.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: It's so unfortunate about the Magic because they show so
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: many signs of potential and obviously the biggest a big
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: move for them, which probably nobody talked about, the Desmond
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: Bain trade, so them trading KCP and I believe it
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: was five first round picks so they could have more
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: of an offensive scoring which Jamal Mosley has definitely had
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: this offense become better. And their defense. We already know
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: how great their defense is. But nobody can stay healthy
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: for the Magic.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: Nobody.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: Whenever Paul's on the court, Franz isn't, and whenever Franz
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: is on the court, Polo isn't.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: So it's just work.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: I think it's probably not gonna be till like after
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: All Star Break, we're gonna really see how good this
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: Orlando Magic team is. And as of right now they're
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: fifth all beat in the Eastern Conference.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: But they're that good.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: And even Jalen Suggs, I think Jalen Suggs, he's one
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: of the guys where his stats don't actually match how
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: good of an NBA player he is whenever Jalen Suggs
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: plays and is on the court for the Magic, they
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: find a way to win ball games. And even though
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: I think he averages like fourteen to four and four
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: something along those lines right there, he contributes to winning
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: and he's a real piece on that team. So I
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: think again, whenever Franz and Powell they finally have their
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: chemistry with Desmond Baine on the court, it's not gonna
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: be so after All Star breaks. So that's an intriguing
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: team that kind of just I'm just looking out for.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: And as far as another team right here, the Cleveland Cavaliers,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: which the Cleveland Cavaliers, we thought Josh and I included,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: I know I can speak for Josh right here. We
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: thought that this team was going to be the team
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: that rose up in the Eastern Conference because everybody else
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: was hurt and now that we didn't have to worry.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: About the Pacers.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: But they have been one of the more underwhelming teams
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: of the year. But I think the biggest reason for
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: that is Evan Mobley, which at the beginning of the year.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: Evan Mobley at the beginning of the year was showing
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: that next jump, that next level of potentially being a
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: top fifteen guy, because I consider him in the top
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: twenty range, but maybe taking that jump to being a
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: top fifteen guy. And at first it started off great,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: it started off amazing, but it's just been underwhelming ever since.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: And just this Calvs team, I don't know exactly what's
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: wrong with them. I didn't get to cats the games
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: and I versus the Bulls, which the Bulls did win,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: by the way, And it's just also with the Calves
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: last year, at the start of the year or until
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: the All Star break, they were shooting crazy efficient from
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: three or just from the field entirely.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: So maybe the Calves last year.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: They've always been a good team, They've always been a
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: good team, but maybe them being a great team, maybe
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: we just overest or over hype them to a certain extent.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's the case. I think eventually they'll
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: be able to figure this out because they get the
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt of being in the Eastern Conference
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: where they could struggle mightily through damn near half of
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: the season and they could still end up being out
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: of the plane because as of right now, they're fifteen
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: and thirteen and the Sixers are fourteen and eleven up
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: to this point, so they they're only let me check,
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: they're only half a game back, and even at that,
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: they're only seven total games back from the Pistons. So
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: maybe they could even work their way up to the
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: three seed up to this point. But that's just something
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: where it's underwhelming as of right now and very very disappointing.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: But I expect them to get it together.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: There's so much talent on this team, from Darius Garlin
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: who's kind of been in and out of the lineup,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell, Evan Mobley, Jared Allen, DeAndre Hunter, they have
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: They have real guys on their team. But the last
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: team that I want to talk about in the Eastern
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: Conference is the Milwaukee Bucks. The Milwaukee Bucks obviously we
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: know they had Giannis, and this was another team that
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: we thought maybe they'd rise to the top because they
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: have one of these best players in the league, which
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: some people argue as the best.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: Player in the league.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: They had Giannis, and they signed Miles Turner, and there
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: were some throughout the middle of the year whenever Giannis
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: was playing, Kevin Porter Junior started playing a lot better.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: Ryan Rollins is actually a real NBA player up to
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: this point. But it's just this team is so bad now.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: This team is genuinely bad. Kyle Kuzma, that trade looks
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: worse by the day. Miles Turner without Yiannis there, he
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: really can't thrive as what they signed him for for
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: the contract. So this team is just they're bound to
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: implode at this point. And all honesty, what I would
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: do is I would trade Giannis Jianness. There's already been
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: a bunch of rumors come out that he's very unhappy
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: in the Milwaukee situation. So I think he's already won
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: you a championship and you've already seen plenty of success
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: with Giannis. You you trade him to wherever he wants to,
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: and you could get plenty of assets too. As far
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: as to exactly where, I'm not sure. I'm not sure
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: where he could possibly go because you're gonna need so
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: much in return for Gianni's as far as players and picks,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: and then as far as contractually, how is that gonna
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: match up with everybody? But yeah, that's a big piece
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: that needs to be traded away because even whenever yan
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: does step on the court, and even if you do
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: make some trades, maybe a trade Murphy, maybe a Lari
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: markin in.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: It still won't be enough to get out of.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: The Eastern Conference, let alone if you get to the finals. Somehow,
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: you get to the finals a one or two percent
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: chance because Jannis goes insane, you're not gonna beat the
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: Western Conference team. Then put yourself more into salary cap debt.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: So the Bucks they're they're in the corner.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: They're in the corner now where they try to push
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: all the chips in for Damian Lillard and it failed.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: But you took that risk. It's part of it.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: But you did get a championship out of Giannis to
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: Chris Middleton Drew Holiday Courts, So you have to take
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: your l word is trade away Yannis. As much as
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  Speaker 2: it pains you to see the greatest player in your
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  Speaker 2: franchise history, I know Kareem was there, but as far
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: as just individually in a single or in the Milwaukee
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  Speaker 2: Bucks history, it is Yannis. They have to trade him
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  Speaker 2: away for sure. But okay, as far as all of
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: those right there, Josh and I we were supposed to
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  Speaker 2: do it right here. But as far as early season
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  Speaker 2: awards up to this point, I'll go through them very quickly,
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  Speaker 2: which we already talked about it. As far as Oklahoma
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  Speaker 2: City Thunder being one of the best teams, I'd have
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  Speaker 2: to follow suit with Mark Dagnaut being head Coach of
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  Speaker 2: the Year and Shay obviously win another MVP Defensive Player
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  Speaker 2: of the Year. As much as Josh doesn't want to hear,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: Wimby might not hit the criteria. As far as for games, yes,
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: I know Riverside is tripping Josh, and I saw your messages.
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  Speaker 2: I know you probably want me to go on this
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  Speaker 2: Wimby rant. As of right now, best defensive player has
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  Speaker 2: more blocks, more stills than anybody.
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  Speaker 1: But Wimby still might not hit that criteria. He still
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  Speaker 1: might not hit that criteria.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how many games he's missed exactly, but
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  Speaker 2: it was somewhere along the two weeks lines. So we
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  Speaker 2: had to dang near play almost the rest of the
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: games the entire season to meet that defensive player in
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  Speaker 2: all NBA criteria. So Wemby would win it by far
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  Speaker 2: if there was no such thing as a criteria sixty
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  Speaker 2: five games, but Chet would be a very far second.
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  Speaker 2: As far as Rookie of the Year, it went through
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: different phases about the entire year.
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  Speaker 1: At first it was VJ.
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  Speaker 2: Edgecombe, and then it was Conkering Upple and then Derek Queen,
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  Speaker 2: which Derek Queen still is playing some great ball, but
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  Speaker 2: now Cooper Flag has officially taken the throne as far
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  Speaker 2: as NBA Rookie of the Year up to this point.
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  Speaker 2: And like I said, he just dropped forty forty two,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: actually he just dropped forty two two days ago. So
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  Speaker 2: it's only going to get better from here because rookies
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  Speaker 2: usually get a lot better down the stretching, especially in
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  Speaker 2: that March and April stretch. That's when we really start
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  Speaker 2: seeing how good these rookies are. And you're already seeing
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  Speaker 2: this from Cooper Flag. As far as most Improved Player
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  Speaker 2: of the Year, this is where it gets really tricky here.
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  Speaker 2: There are three main guys where if it's three separate
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: criterias for how most improved Player of the year, which
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: is the most confusing award to Judge and his Danny Avdia,
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Johnson, and Austin Reeves. Austin Reeves his simple cases.
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  Speaker 2: He took a jump from twenty two points per game
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  Speaker 2: last year. Now he's damn near averaging thirty and yes,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: he was already a perennial All Star along those lines,
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  Speaker 2: but Austin Reeves an eight point jump and becoming a
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  Speaker 2: number two option and at times whenever we seen Luca
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  Speaker 2: out and Lebron out during that early stretch, He's had
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  Speaker 2: forty point games, fifty point games, I believe as well.
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  Speaker 2: So his criteria for most improved player would be he's
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  Speaker 2: He's a guy that went from a good player last
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  Speaker 2: year to now a potentially star we could see as
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  Speaker 2: far as a top twenty five player. As crazy as
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  Speaker 2: it sounds, he's potentially that good. As far as Jalen
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  Speaker 2: Johnson he went, I would say he's a tier below
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: Austin Reeves. As far as Jalen Johnson. His biggest thing
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: was injuries. That's the biggest thing and still up to
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  Speaker 2: this day, it's injuries. He went from being a player
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: that was solid whenever he did play great, but now
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: he's actually playing games this year. He's damn near averaging
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  Speaker 2: a triple double right now, which is insane. He's averaging
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: a triple double, but he just doesn't stay on the court.
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  Speaker 2: And I believe, if I'm not mistaken, he's been in
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: the most improved player running for the past three years
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  Speaker 2: up to this point, if I'm not mistaken. So that's
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  Speaker 2: his case. As far as he's been in the running
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: for Most Improved Player of the Year the past few
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  Speaker 2: years and he's only been getting better and now he's
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  Speaker 2: potentially an All NBA guy.
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  Speaker 1: Same with Austin Reeves. So that's his case.
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  Speaker 2: But as far as Danny Abdia dan from last year,
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  Speaker 2: if you told me last year and you said, hey,
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  Speaker 2: next year, on December eighteenth, Danny Avda he's going to
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  Speaker 2: be averaging twenty five, eight and eight, I would have said,
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  Speaker 2: you are absolutely insane and you're smoking something. But you
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: saw that stretch of Danny Abdia from March to the
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  Speaker 2: end of the season, and now he's he struggled at
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: the beginning of the year, but after a two week
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: stretch of being a rough spot, he's going back to
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  Speaker 2: what he was doing. And honestly, he's one of the
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: best young players in the NBA.
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  Speaker 1: And so that's his criteria right there, where it's.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: Like, Okay, he did it late in the year and
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: now he's going to do it for a full sample sized.
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  Speaker 2: But if I had to pick one, if I had
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: to pick one. I would go Danny Avdia because I
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  Speaker 2: feel like from what my criteria is, he fits my mold.
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  Speaker 2: As far as most improved player, Jalen Johnson, he's already
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: been improving. Austin Reez, he already has been improving. Danny Avdya,
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  Speaker 2: he went from last year, at the beginning of the year,
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: we don't know if he was gonna be on the
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: team to now. He's one of the guys you need
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: to build around. So Danny Avdia, he would be my
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: most improved player of the year. As far as six
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: Man of the Year, there's different guys. I know Josh
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: has said three separate guys, but I think it's Dylan
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: Harper one of them from the Spurs, Anthony Black and
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: Jyman Hawkis and obviously Naswed of course, but I'm gonna
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: have to go with Anthony Black. Up to this point,
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  Speaker 2: Anthony Black off the bench has been one of the
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: best offensive players. Him and Jalen Suggs, that duo right there,
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: it's it is amazing. And Anthony Black, his biggest thing
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: was canny develop an offensive back and.
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  Speaker 1: He has done that up to this point.
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  Speaker 2: And I think although those other guys, they are good
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: names and have been have been good sparks off the bench.
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  Speaker 2: I think Anthony Black not only from last year to
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: this year, he made that major jump, but he is
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: the main reason why the Magic offense is actually formidable.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: It's actually a top or a top half offense this year.
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  Speaker 2: So I'd have to go with Anthony Black. As far
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: as clutch Player of the Year, I really don't think
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: there's no conversation on this. It has to be Kate
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: Cunningham being Clutch Player of the Year. I know there's Shaye,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: I know there's Tyree s Maasey, which he's been going
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: ballistic this year and made a jump. There's Anthony Edwards,
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: Steph Curry is always in the running. But it has
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: to be Kate Cunningham this year because if I'm not mistaken,
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: he's been in the most clutch games this year, which
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: again five points with five minutes left in the ballgame.
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  Speaker 1: So Kate Cunningham. He's been absolutely amazing.
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  Speaker 2: You could argue him or Shae, but since Shae he's
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: already winn an MVP, I feel like Kate he has
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: to get an award for how crazy he is doing
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: this year. So yeah, those are my Awards this year,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: and it sucks Josh he didn't get to finish this episode.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: I think Joshi he got to like fifty and it's
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: in which I know we're gonna get something figured out
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: as far as doing the NBA NBA Pod where both
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: of us are actually on. But I hope you guys
• 1:30:09
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• 1:30:12
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• 1:30:15
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• 1:30:20
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