Latest / Made of Stars / Following Up on Four Stories
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Warning. The following podcast contains an entertaining look at astronomy, physics,
- 0:04Speaker 1: and space news throughout the known universe. Listeners have been
- 0:07Speaker 1: known to learn about astronomical phenomenon, the scientific method, and
- 0:10Speaker 1: expanded vocabulary to include terms like quasar asterism and uranus. Listen,
- 0:15Speaker 1: that's your own risk.
- 0:16Speaker 2: Go ahead.
- 0:22Speaker 3: When made of stars, made them stars, madies. When made
- 0:30Speaker 3: us stars, you could be from high they would new Mexicomas.
- 0:39Speaker 3: Where all stars?
- 0:43Speaker 4: When we are made of stars.
- 0:57Speaker 5: I'm Wes Carrol, joined by my good friend doctor Sean
- 0:59Speaker 5: Cruise from Columbus State University's Coca Cola Space Science Center.
- 1:03Speaker 2: Hey Sean, Hey Wes, good to be here today.
- 1:06Speaker 5: We got some pretty cool stories today, some update stories.
- 1:09Speaker 5: I guess these are all Are they all follow up stories?
- 1:14Speaker 5: Maybe we got one kind of new story towards the end,
- 1:18Speaker 5: but it's well, it's kind of a follow up story,
- 1:20Speaker 5: I guess in a way, I think it is.
- 1:22Speaker 2: I think they might all be follow up stories. So
- 1:24Speaker 2: if you're a regular listener to the podcast, you're going
- 1:27Speaker 2: to have some inside scoops here on the background for
- 1:30Speaker 2: these stories. But we have the latest developments.
- 1:32Speaker 5: There you go, and at least one of these stories
- 1:35Speaker 5: is when we've been talking about at least since radio.
- 1:37Speaker 5: So I'm excited about that one. That's the second story.
- 1:40Speaker 5: We'll get to that one coming up in a minute. First,
- 1:43Speaker 5: let's start with this double team with NASA and Blue
- 1:46Speaker 5: Origin getting ready to launch two spacecraft Mars YEP.
- 1:51Speaker 2: And so the story about the NASA mission is an
- 1:54Speaker 2: important story. We I think covered it on a previous podcast,
- 1:59Speaker 2: But to me, the the most interesting part of this
- 2:01Speaker 2: story is the Blue Origin part of the story. So
- 2:06Speaker 2: NASA and Blue Origin have teamed up for the launch
- 2:08Speaker 2: of a brand new Mars exploring mission called Escapade. And
- 2:14Speaker 2: of course this is a strained acronym. This is what
- 2:16Speaker 2: we do, right, So it's the Escape and Plasma Acceleration
- 2:19Speaker 2: and Dynamics Explorers and that's Explorer's plural. There's two of them, right,
- 2:26Speaker 2: So it's one mission, two spacecraft, and the launch date
- 2:31Speaker 2: being targeted right now is early November of this year,
- 2:34Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, to launch these two vehicles up to Mars.
- 2:38Speaker 2: And yes, there's a very interesting story behind the vehicles,
- 2:42Speaker 2: but most of the really interesting part of the story
- 2:45Speaker 2: to me is the fact that Blue Origin will be
- 2:48Speaker 2: launching its new Glen rocket. This is its massive moon
- 2:53Speaker 2: capable launch vehicle, equivalent in class at least to the
- 3:00Speaker 2: Saturn five rocket to SpaceX's Starship rocket, And so this
- 3:04Speaker 2: is a very important launch vehicle for its own purposes.
- 3:09Speaker 2: And so just knowing that this vehicle is capable of
- 3:12Speaker 2: putting payloads out into the Solar System and on their
- 3:15Speaker 2: way to Mars is a really important development just in
- 3:19Speaker 2: the whole space industry in general. So, so yes, the
- 3:22Speaker 2: Mars mission from NASA very important, but also very important
- 3:27Speaker 2: watching this brand new heavy lift rocket from Blue Origin
- 3:31Speaker 2: and seeing as it goes through its paces, is it
- 3:34Speaker 2: going to be a reliable heavy lift launch vehicle going
- 3:38Speaker 2: into the future.
- 3:40Speaker 5: Well, and to call it a you know, moon capable
- 3:43Speaker 5: rocket if they're sending it to Mars, I guess this
- 3:45Speaker 5: is also part of the Well, can we now call
- 3:47Speaker 5: this a Mars capable rocket, which obviously has a slightly
- 3:51Speaker 5: different classification for it. And this is the second test
- 3:56Speaker 5: flight for this vehicle.
- 3:58Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. So the first time vehicle flew, everything
- 4:02Speaker 2: went pretty much flawlessly until they tried to land and
- 4:06Speaker 2: recapture the main stage, and of course that didn't go well.
- 4:09Speaker 2: But everything up to that point went flawlessly, So it's
- 4:12Speaker 2: going to be a very interesting mission to see, of course,
- 4:16Speaker 2: whether the Blue Origin rocket works. But then also these
- 4:19Speaker 2: two twin spacecraft are heading to the orbit of Mars
- 4:24Speaker 2: to be able to study Mars solar weather. So we
- 4:29Speaker 2: talk a lot about space weather here on the planet Earth. Well,
- 4:33Speaker 2: Mars is also subject to that same space weather due
- 4:36Speaker 2: to its interaction with the Sun, and so these vehicles
- 4:39Speaker 2: are going to go out and really study the effects
- 4:42Speaker 2: of the solar wind on the Martian atmosphere and magnetic field,
- 4:47Speaker 2: both of which are very very thin and low magnitude
- 4:51Speaker 2: compared to that of the Earth.
- 4:54Speaker 5: And we talk about this all the different career options
- 4:57Speaker 5: and things, because obviously what you guys do there at
- 5:00Speaker 5: the Cocola Space Science Center it's about creating interest and
- 5:04Speaker 5: excitement things for stem and careers. And I have a
- 5:08Speaker 5: budding meteorologist in my home. I trust him. I want
- 5:12Speaker 5: a Gabby by the way for covering a storm once.
- 5:16Speaker 5: But I have a child in my house who I
- 5:18Speaker 5: trust him with his weather knowledge much better than my own.
- 5:22Speaker 5: And I keep telling him, hey, I know weather is
- 5:25Speaker 5: your thing, but just know that we now have this,
- 5:29Speaker 5: you know, Mars weather is a career option out there
- 5:32Speaker 5: for folks, and it just we like to point those
- 5:34Speaker 5: things out. Career options. You know, there's things out there
- 5:37Speaker 5: that maybe you haven't quite thought of. Most people think, oh,
- 5:40Speaker 5: if I took a job at SpaceX, or if I
- 5:43Speaker 5: took a job at Blue Origin or took a job at.
- 5:45Speaker 4: NASA, this would be what I would be doing.
- 5:47Speaker 5: I would be you know, you know, I have to
- 5:49Speaker 5: be an astronaut or have to be someone working on
- 5:51Speaker 5: the ground. There's other options, there's other career things when
- 5:55Speaker 5: it comes to working for those companies. That's all I'm
- 5:58Speaker 5: pointing out.
- 5:59Speaker 2: Yeah, so a general solid background in science will get
- 6:03Speaker 2: you a lot of different career options and a lot
- 6:06Speaker 2: of different possibilities. And that includes that includes forecasting both
- 6:10Speaker 2: atmospheric kinds of weather but also space weather on the
- 6:14Speaker 2: planet Mars when we go up there and colonize the place. Right, So, yes,
- 6:18Speaker 2: all of those future careers which the future is getting
- 6:21Speaker 2: closer friends, I mean, the plan is to ever be
- 6:25Speaker 2: full on Mars by twenty thirty five. That's just a
- 6:29Speaker 2: decade away, right, So just in perspective, we're talking about
- 6:33Speaker 2: having boots on the ground, not on the moon only
- 6:37Speaker 2: but also on Mars in the next ten years. So
- 6:41Speaker 2: these are not like some kind of sci fi fantasy
- 6:44Speaker 2: type career. These are futures that are just right around
- 6:46Speaker 2: the corner in terms of what the proposal for the
- 6:51Speaker 2: American space program is.
- 6:52Speaker 5: And there's going to be people a need for people
- 6:54Speaker 5: here still on Earth to break down data and all
- 6:57Speaker 5: that stuff. So it's not just about being an astronaut,
- 7:00Speaker 5: all right. This is one that goes back to radio
- 7:02Speaker 5: as We've been talking about this really really cool looking
- 7:07Speaker 5: ship for a while, and I'm glad you included an
- 7:10Speaker 5: image when you sent me over some notes on it
- 7:13Speaker 5: today because i just always like looking at it, and
- 7:15Speaker 5: I'm mad at myself that I haven't been following it
- 7:18Speaker 5: more closely to I don't know, just look at it.
- 7:20Speaker 5: I'm gonna take I'm a save this image right now,
- 7:22Speaker 5: and that way I can maybe even make it my desktop,
- 7:25Speaker 5: and that way I can just look at it anytime.
- 7:27Speaker 2: I want to.
- 7:28Speaker 5: It looks like this is that we're and by the way,
- 7:30Speaker 5: we're talking about now this next story about the Dream Chaser,
- 7:36Speaker 5: and I'll let you go into the specifics on this,
- 7:38Speaker 5: but this is a spacecraft that is moving forward yet again,
- 7:43Speaker 5: we're a step closer to this becoming a reality. But
- 7:46Speaker 5: it looks like the Space Shuttle and a dolphin mat
- 7:50Speaker 5: it and this is what we got, and that's what
- 7:52Speaker 5: That's the only way I can describe what this thing
- 7:54Speaker 5: looks like. But also that has a giant, you know,
- 7:58Speaker 5: rocket attached to the back of it. So this thing
- 8:02Speaker 5: looks cool, and I'm just excited that we're a little
- 8:04Speaker 5: bit closer to the reality of this thing going to space.
- 8:08Speaker 2: So you and I again, for those longtime listeners, they
- 8:11Speaker 2: may have heard us discuss this before, but for everyone else,
- 8:15Speaker 2: Wes and I have been a very big fan of
- 8:18Speaker 2: the of the Dream Chaser space plane for a number
- 8:21Speaker 2: of years, dating even before we did the podcast, all
- 8:24Speaker 2: the way back to when we had our radio show
- 8:26Speaker 2: together on the air. We like it. It's a cool
- 8:29Speaker 2: looking vehicle, and you know, I like your Space Shuttle
- 8:33Speaker 2: and dolphin uh you know, child of uh kind of analogy.
- 8:39Speaker 2: I think it maybe looks a bit more like an Orca,
- 8:42Speaker 2: you know, like an Orca and the Space Shuttle started dating,
- 8:45Speaker 2: they fell in love, and now we have a Dream Chaser.
- 8:48Speaker 2: Maybe it is maybe.
- 8:49Speaker 5: They somehow both went into that little teleporting thing from
- 8:52Speaker 5: the movie The Fly, you know, at the same time,
- 8:54Speaker 5: and they both came out on the other side. Maybe
- 8:56Speaker 5: that if you don't want to have to get into
- 8:57Speaker 5: the Birds and the Beast talk, maybe that's what it is.
- 9:00Speaker 2: If you have no idea what we're talking about, first
- 9:03Speaker 2: of all, it's probably better. But second of all, just
- 9:06Speaker 2: go out and search Dream Chaser and check out this
- 9:10Speaker 2: new space vehicle. It's from Sierra Space. Now it's not
- 9:13Speaker 2: really new, it's just being newly developed for a new contract.
- 9:18Speaker 2: That's the interesting part. The dream Chaser has never really
- 9:22Speaker 2: flown human beings to space, but the dream Chaser has
- 9:26Speaker 2: been being developed by what used to be the Sierra
- 9:29Speaker 2: Nevada Corporation and they now have changed their name to
- 9:32Speaker 2: Sierra Space. So Sierra Space is a company that is
- 9:37Speaker 2: manufacturing the dream Chaser, which is a small scale space
- 9:41Speaker 2: plane again think of the Space Shuttle, but much smaller
- 9:46Speaker 2: and a bit more, a bit more aerodynamic and curvy
- 9:50Speaker 2: looking just quite honestly, it's where it gets. It's kind
- 9:53Speaker 2: of Orca dolphin look to it. Anyway. So the vehicle, though,
- 9:57Speaker 2: is made to launch vertically on a rock and then
- 10:01Speaker 2: come down and land on a runway just like the
- 10:05Speaker 2: Giant Space Shuttle did, only on a much smaller scale. Well,
- 10:09Speaker 2: NASA has been working with Sierra Space to try to
- 10:11Speaker 2: get this vehicle, and it's really unique and important design
- 10:16Speaker 2: into their arsenal in a lot of different ways. And
- 10:18Speaker 2: they had written a contract for Sierra Nevada to go
- 10:23Speaker 2: up and take supplies to the International Space Station, then
- 10:26Speaker 2: to bring garbage back down from the International Space Station
- 10:31Speaker 2: and burn up in the atmosphere. That wasn't even it
- 10:34Speaker 2: wasn't even going to come back down on land. It
- 10:35Speaker 2: was just simply going to burn up little space dolphins
- 10:39Speaker 2: in the atmosphere. But fortunately that contract is no longer
- 10:44Speaker 2: valid because we don't want to see any space dolphins
- 10:46Speaker 2: burn up in the atmosphere. So what the new reorganized
- 10:50Speaker 2: contract between NASA and Sierra Space is doing is to
- 10:54Speaker 2: prepare this vehicle to become an independent flyer in space,
- 11:00Speaker 2: or as the wording on the article from New Atlas
- 11:03Speaker 2: dot Com says, it's a free flyer. It's a free
- 11:07Speaker 2: flyer instead of going up and docking with the International
- 11:09Speaker 2: Space Station, it's going to be flying its own missions
- 11:12Speaker 2: to orbit, then coming back down and landing on the
- 11:14Speaker 2: runway itself. This is for a post International Space Station era,
- 11:20Speaker 2: an era where in low Earth orbit human spaceflight will
- 11:23Speaker 2: not be relying on the International Space Station. They will
- 11:27Speaker 2: be going up in either autonomous vehicles that will just
- 11:30Speaker 2: perform their own missions, or they will go up and
- 11:34Speaker 2: be docking to commercial space stations like those currently being
- 11:39Speaker 2: constructed by Axiom Space and other space industry contractors. So
- 11:45Speaker 2: that's the new thing for the dream Chaser. And also
- 11:49Speaker 2: it's preparing for work in the defense and intelligence industry.
- 11:53Speaker 2: So that's another part of the new contract with NASA.
- 11:56Speaker 2: It's preparing for it's preparing for those future use scenarios.
- 12:01Speaker 2: The thing is wes. This thing looks a lot like
- 12:04Speaker 2: the United States Air Forces version of a space plane.
- 12:08Speaker 2: It's called the X thirty seven B, and we've covered
- 12:11Speaker 2: the X thirty seven B here on the podcast. It's
- 12:13Speaker 2: had many successful missions to space already. It doesn't look
- 12:17Speaker 2: entirely unlike that vehicle, right, So there are some similarities
- 12:21Speaker 2: and there'll be some similar use scenarios for the Sierra
- 12:26Speaker 2: Nevada or i should say, Sierospace Dreamchaser compared to the
- 12:31Speaker 2: Air Force's X thirty seven B.
- 12:33Speaker 5: You and I are big fans of the Shuttle and
- 12:36Speaker 5: the Shuttle program. We were really disappointed when they shut
- 12:40Speaker 5: that down. And I think most people, like especially anybody
- 12:44Speaker 5: my age. I'm a gen X kid. I'm fifty and
- 12:49Speaker 5: I grew up in that time when the Shuttle program
- 12:51Speaker 5: got really hot, a lot of talk about it, a
- 12:53Speaker 5: lot of excitement about it. I just think it's cool
- 12:55Speaker 5: to see that there's like this, this sort of continuation
- 12:58Speaker 5: of it. I know it's different in so many ways,
- 13:02Speaker 5: but it still just has that feel of that you
- 13:06Speaker 5: see this thing, you know, you look at it and
- 13:08Speaker 5: you kind of it's hard not to think about the Shuttle,
- 13:11Speaker 5: and then when you think about it coming back down,
- 13:13Speaker 5: landing on a runway, I can already imagine it being
- 13:16Speaker 5: transported around on the back of a plane from one
- 13:19Speaker 5: one spot to another. All those cool things that we
- 13:22Speaker 5: loved about the Shuttle that were so cool, and it
- 13:24Speaker 5: does it's got its own look. It just it feels
- 13:27Speaker 5: like they've you know, taken some old classic car and
- 13:30Speaker 5: refurbished it for use and they've said, yeah, we're going
- 13:33Speaker 5: to release this new version of this car and you're
- 13:35Speaker 5: all going to love it again.
- 13:36Speaker 4: And of course people do.
- 13:37Speaker 5: They it's hard not to go back to something that
- 13:40Speaker 5: so many people were such a big fan of. So
- 13:42Speaker 5: it's kind of exciting to know that this thing is
- 13:45Speaker 5: a little bit closer to its eventual mission.
- 13:48Speaker 2: For a period of thirty years, from nineteen eighty one
- 13:53Speaker 2: to twenty eleven, the Space Shuttle was our spaceship. It
- 13:59Speaker 2: was America's space ship. So if you ask any child
- 14:02Speaker 2: from that era to draw a picture of a spaceship,
- 14:06Speaker 2: they we're going to draw something that looked like the
- 14:08Speaker 2: NASA Space Shuttle, right. So that's why I think maybe
- 14:12Speaker 2: just the look of this vehicle kind of resonates with
- 14:15Speaker 2: people like you and me because it looks like what
- 14:18Speaker 2: we would call a spaceship. We don't necessarily think of
- 14:21Speaker 2: a capsule as a spaceship, and yes, certainly capsules are spaceships,
- 14:26Speaker 2: but again that childlike instinct to think of a spaceship
- 14:30Speaker 2: as something looking like a Space shuttle and has wings.
- 14:34Speaker 2: It can both be in space and in our own
- 14:36Speaker 2: atmosphere and be perfectly at home in either environment. That's
- 14:40Speaker 2: what this looks like, right. So again it's just esthetically
- 14:44Speaker 2: interesting to me. I just like the way the vehicle looks,
- 14:47Speaker 2: and I wish a Sierra space the best of luck
- 14:49Speaker 2: with this new venture with NASA.
- 14:52Speaker 5: Coming up after a quick break, we have a visitor
- 14:56Speaker 5: to our solar system from beyond, a fresh new look
- 15:00Speaker 5: at it. We'll talk about that next. There's been so
- 15:21Speaker 5: many movies made about things coming to visit us from
- 15:25Speaker 5: beyond our solar system. So whenever we have a story
- 15:29Speaker 5: about something that's visiting us from beyond our solar system,
- 15:33Speaker 5: it's always a good it's always a good day. And
- 15:35Speaker 5: then and when it gets spotted again by something that's
- 15:40Speaker 5: able to get us, you know, a nice close up
- 15:42Speaker 5: photo of it, that's exciting too.
- 15:45Speaker 2: Also exciting. I've seen a couple of these preview photos.
- 15:48Speaker 2: I don't know if I would call them close up,
- 15:50Speaker 2: but they're early photos. How about that? Early photos of
- 15:53Speaker 2: this object? Anyway?
- 15:54Speaker 5: They're closer up than we've seen before though, right, I mean,
- 15:57Speaker 5: is this the most close up photo we've got or.
- 16:00Speaker 2: It for sure is in terms of the actual space distance. Yes.
- 16:04Speaker 2: So here's what's happening, friends. It's all relative, baby, that it is.
- 16:08Speaker 2: It's all relative. Right now as we speak, there's this
- 16:11Speaker 2: weird interstellar comment called three I Atlas. And if you're
- 16:15Speaker 2: on Facebook at all and you do anything with space,
- 16:18Speaker 2: you realize that a lot of people think it's a spaceship,
- 16:21Speaker 2: you know, that made to look like a rock. I guess.
- 16:25Speaker 2: I guess they think the Aliens would have to disguise
- 16:27Speaker 2: their spaceship as rocks. So, for some reason, I don't
- 16:31Speaker 2: know why, I.
- 16:31Speaker 5: Think we've hit a point. And we don't do politics.
- 16:34Speaker 5: This is just me throwing out an observation. In general,
- 16:37Speaker 5: I think we've officially hit a point in society where
- 16:41Speaker 5: our starting line, our baseline, is conspiracy, and then we
- 16:46Speaker 5: have to like back ourselves down from it, if we're
- 16:49Speaker 5: even capable. In many cases, we can't even do that,
- 16:52Speaker 5: so we have to start at well, clearly, it must
- 16:54Speaker 5: be an alien spacecraft.
- 16:58Speaker 2: You know. My favorite such news stories are the ones
- 17:01Speaker 2: that include the phrase you know, some people say, yeah,
- 17:06Speaker 2: some people say some people say that comment three Eye
- 17:10Speaker 2: Outlis is actually a spacecraft. Well, you can find some
- 17:13Speaker 2: people that'll say just about anything, friends. So I'm here
- 17:18Speaker 2: to say it's my expert opinion that I do not
- 17:21Speaker 2: believe in any manner that commet three Eye Outlis is
- 17:24Speaker 2: a spacecraft. But people would say, well, some people say,
- 17:29Speaker 2: but it could be.
- 17:31Speaker 5: I mean, that's the real I love that as the
- 17:33Speaker 5: defense of it. There's a story that's floating around online
- 17:37Speaker 5: now about somebody stealing people's credit cards, a waitress stealing
- 17:41Speaker 5: credit cards and buying little phone games or something with it,
- 17:44Speaker 5: and people have been sharing it. When people point out
- 17:46Speaker 5: it's fake, the response has been, but it could have happened.
- 17:51Speaker 5: It could have You can't art. You're right, you've just
- 17:53Speaker 5: made a point that can't be disputed. It could be
- 17:58Speaker 5: that very thing. This could be. There's a chance it
- 18:01Speaker 5: could be full of little green men. Well, let's maybe
- 18:04Speaker 5: we'll start with this. Did this closest up photo that
- 18:08Speaker 5: we've gotten give us a look at little green men?
- 18:10Speaker 5: Can we start there? And if not, and we can
- 18:12Speaker 5: say it could just be a rock.
- 18:15Speaker 2: I mean, NASA already knows there's aliens West. They would
- 18:19Speaker 2: never show you the picture of them waving from the
- 18:22Speaker 2: point from the rock shaped spacecraft from another solar system,
- 18:26Speaker 2: but they could.
- 18:27Speaker 5: Show us the photo, well they could.
- 18:29Speaker 2: I mean, they probably already have these photos, but they're
- 18:31Speaker 2: not going to share them with us ever. No, no, no, well,
- 18:34Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that's a different podcast. Let's get back to
- 18:37Speaker 2: this podcast. It's not an alien vehicle, it's a comment. Okay,
- 18:41Speaker 2: But it did come from another solar system. It's pretty cool.
- 18:44Speaker 2: And over the last several days it's been making a
- 18:47Speaker 2: near pass to the planet Mars. Now, when we say
- 18:50Speaker 2: near pass, nineteen million miles, So I mean, you know,
- 18:54Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to run that distance on Earth. No,
- 18:59Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to run that. But nineteen million miles
- 19:02Speaker 2: in terms of space, well, you know that's relatively nearby, right,
- 19:06Speaker 2: That's that's you know, like a tenth of mars distance
- 19:10Speaker 2: from from Mars to the Sun for instance, right, So
- 19:14Speaker 2: so in terms of Mars distances, yeah, it's close by.
- 19:18Speaker 2: And so all the vehicles, all the little spacecraft on Mars,
- 19:21Speaker 2: they turned the little cameras which are normally used for
- 19:24Speaker 2: taking pictures of little rocks and geological features and things
- 19:27Speaker 2: like that, and they pointed them up skyward and they
- 19:31Speaker 2: tried to catch pictures of the interstellar comet three iye
- 19:34Speaker 2: Atlas as it was zipping by the red planet. And
- 19:37Speaker 2: so this was particularly done by a suite of European
- 19:40Speaker 2: Space Agency spacecraft. The first one is the Exo Mars
- 19:45Speaker 2: Trace Gas Orbiter, we know it as TGO. So Exo
- 19:50Speaker 2: Mars TGO focused its camera up toward the sky and
- 19:55Speaker 2: got a quote unquote close up of three I Atlas. Now, friends,
- 19:59Speaker 2: if you go at actually look at these images, yes
- 20:02Speaker 2: you can tell it's a comet, but that's about all
- 20:05Speaker 2: you can tell. It's not resolved well enough to actually
- 20:08Speaker 2: see the little green arms of the Aliens from another
- 20:11Speaker 2: star system waving out the windows, so you're not going
- 20:14Speaker 2: to see that. But you know, the interesting thing is
- 20:18Speaker 2: is gathering data that helps us understand the vehicle better.
- 20:22Speaker 2: And also the Mars Express Orbiter, another European Space Agency
- 20:27Speaker 2: spacecraft which has been circling the red planet since two
- 20:30Speaker 2: thousand and three, it also attempted to photograph the comet.
- 20:35Speaker 2: They're still downloading those images. We don't have confirmation whether
- 20:38Speaker 2: or not the Mars Express captured it. But the Space
- 20:42Speaker 2: Agency has a third vehicle out there, and this one's
- 20:45Speaker 2: not a Mars vehicle. This one's actually on the way
- 20:48Speaker 2: to Jupiter, but it's going to get a glimpse of
- 20:51Speaker 2: three I Atlas on the second of November. That vehicle
- 20:56Speaker 2: is called JUICE. That's an acronym. It is a acronym
- 21:00Speaker 2: for Jupiter Icy Moons Explorer. Juice.
- 21:04Speaker 5: Yeah, I got it, I got it.
- 21:06Speaker 2: Yeah, JAYU I'm still struggling a little bit with that one.
- 21:12Speaker 2: But well, where's the X, where's the R? I don't know, Juice.
- 21:17Speaker 5: I'm looking at it written out and I'm just seeing
- 21:20Speaker 5: those capital letters in there, going okay, well that works,
- 21:25Speaker 5: I mean kind of.
- 21:27Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's not that we're above making
- 21:30Speaker 2: fun of various space agency acronyms on this show.
- 21:33Speaker 5: So this may be the most strained one. I don't
- 21:36Speaker 5: know that we've seen a more strained one.
- 21:37Speaker 2: But that's a good way to say it. Yeah, this
- 21:40Speaker 2: is among the most strained acronyms that we have ever
- 21:43Speaker 2: seen from a space agency. But anyway, the Juice vehicle
- 21:46Speaker 2: will be taking pictures of three I atlas on its
- 21:49Speaker 2: way to Jupiter on November second, So there you have
- 21:52Speaker 2: that going for you. Yeah.
- 21:53Speaker 5: And just as far as this distance, the nineteen million
- 21:57Speaker 5: miles passing by Mars, I think that may be a
- 22:01Speaker 5: way to describe this, to say that it's not you know,
- 22:04Speaker 5: it's close, but it's not really close. I think if
- 22:06Speaker 5: you're on Mars and you're in a vehicle, it's probably
- 22:09Speaker 5: safe to put your arms out, you know, and they
- 22:11Speaker 5: tell you keep your arms in if you're going to
- 22:13Speaker 5: pass by something really close. You're probably safe on Mars
- 22:17Speaker 5: to go ahead and just put your arms out the
- 22:18Speaker 5: window if you want to, You'll be fine. I think
- 22:21Speaker 5: that's I think that's safe.
- 22:23Speaker 2: I think Mark Wattley would agree with you. You know,
- 22:25Speaker 2: space pirate, Mark Wattley's based pirate would stick his arms
- 22:28Speaker 2: out the window. Absolutely, that's right, all right.
- 22:30Speaker 5: We like to cover stories that talk about possible life
- 22:35Speaker 5: in our Solar system, not necessarily on the rock that's
- 22:39Speaker 5: come from beyond our solar system, but favorable conditions at
- 22:43Speaker 5: least for life in our solar system. And we've been
- 22:46Speaker 5: tracking one particular moon where there's a possibility, and we're
- 22:50Speaker 5: getting some more evidence now that says it's a possibility.
- 22:53Speaker 2: There's there's a new study out of Germany from University
- 22:56Speaker 2: of Stuttgard and from the Freer University in burn In. Anyway,
- 23:01Speaker 2: this is a new study of ice geysers from the
- 23:07Speaker 2: moon of Saturn called Enceladus. So an ice geyser is
- 23:12Speaker 2: kind of like a volcano made of watery ice. So
- 23:18Speaker 2: the little moon gets close enough to Saturn that Saturn's
- 23:22Speaker 2: gravity contorts the inner portion of the Moon with tidal forces.
- 23:27Speaker 2: It heats up the frozen water oceans underneath the surface
- 23:32Speaker 2: of Enceladus and it causes watery geysers to shoot off
- 23:36Speaker 2: into space. And we've known about these geysers since twenty
- 23:40Speaker 2: seventeen when NASA's Cassini spacecraft was out there at Saturn
- 23:43Speaker 2: taking pictures. But the data from that spacecraft largely has
- 23:48Speaker 2: been archived, and so in this new study out of
- 23:51Speaker 2: these two German universities was to go back and look
- 23:54Speaker 2: at all the data from from Enceladus using the Cassini
- 23:58Speaker 2: spacecraft that data a bit more closely, and what they
- 24:02Speaker 2: found is they've found some very interesting things inside the
- 24:06Speaker 2: plumes of water jetting off Enceladus and it includes organic molecules. Friends,
- 24:14Speaker 2: that's the important story here, So it's not just water.
- 24:18Speaker 2: That water actually contains the building blocks for life here
- 24:22Speaker 2: on the Earth, organic molecules and other things in the
- 24:27Speaker 2: ice grains like precursors for amino acids. So there are
- 24:34Speaker 2: some important life building compounds that have been discovered from
- 24:41Speaker 2: these data from the Cassini spacecraft from many years ago.
- 24:45Speaker 2: With a reanalysis by two German universities, and they have
- 24:48Speaker 2: come up with this very interesting finding. So a comment
- 24:52Speaker 2: from the spokesperson for the study says this Cassini was
- 24:56Speaker 2: detecting samples from Enceladus all the time it flew through
- 25:00Speaker 2: Saturn's e ering. That's one of the rings around Saturn.
- 25:05Speaker 2: So the quote goes on to say, we had already
- 25:08Speaker 2: found many organic molecules in these ice creams, including precursors
- 25:13Speaker 2: from amino acids, and now they're able to verify some
- 25:16Speaker 2: of those some of those findings from before, and so
- 25:19Speaker 2: this is a really interesting and important study from that
- 25:23Speaker 2: moon Enceladus. It could be friends that as we search
- 25:27Speaker 2: for life out there in the universe, somewhere that those
- 25:31Speaker 2: destinations were actually finding the first life not from the
- 25:34Speaker 2: Earth might be right here in our own solar system,
- 25:39Speaker 2: in either the moon Enceladus around Saturn, or in Court
- 25:44Speaker 2: of course in the or in the moon Europa around Jupiter.
- 25:47Speaker 2: Both of these have similar kinds of environments where they
- 25:51Speaker 2: have frozen water and other kinds of compounds in there.
- 25:54Speaker 2: And so this is a really interesting find making yet
- 25:57Speaker 2: another location in our solar system a possible place to
- 26:01Speaker 2: find evidence of life.
- 26:04Speaker 5: You guys, just a couple of days ago there at
- 26:06Speaker 5: the Cocola Space Science Center had the latest music under
- 26:09Speaker 5: the dome always a great time, always a fantastic show.
- 26:15Speaker 5: If you miss the first one for this season, guess what,
- 26:18Speaker 5: there's another one coming up next month.
- 26:20Speaker 2: There is, and I'm happy to announce that we will
- 26:23Speaker 2: have the same visual artist for the November show that
- 26:27Speaker 2: we had for the October show, and that's our very
- 26:29Speaker 2: own Lance tankers Lee, our director of our planetarium here
- 26:32Speaker 2: at Columbus State University's Coca Cola Space Science Center. Lance
- 26:35Speaker 2: will also be doing the show all of the visuals
- 26:38Speaker 2: for the show on November fourth, which is the next
- 26:41Speaker 2: upcoming concert, and it will be all the visuals will
- 26:44Speaker 2: be set and choreographed to the beautiful music being played
- 26:48Speaker 2: by the Schwobes School of Music faculty and students performing
- 26:52Speaker 2: live inside the Atmosphere Theater. Friends, if you've not been
- 26:56Speaker 2: to one of our Music under the Dome concerts, that
- 26:58Speaker 2: is a really great experience and you should buy tickets
- 27:02Speaker 2: right away because they do tend to sell out. There
- 27:04Speaker 2: are tickets available right now for that November concert. Get
- 27:07Speaker 2: on our website www dot cc SC dot org, Charlie
- 27:13Speaker 2: Charlie Samsamcharlie dot org and get tickets for November fourth.
- 27:18Speaker 2: By the way, Wes you and I have a kind
- 27:20Speaker 2: of an exciting event coming up before November fourth.
- 27:23Speaker 5: We do November first, just a few days before the
- 27:26Speaker 5: next music under the Dome, we will be taking Made
- 27:28Speaker 5: of Stars on location, or actually just bringing it there.
- 27:34Speaker 5: It's still a bit of a home game. We do
- 27:36Speaker 5: this show me from my studio at my home and
- 27:39Speaker 5: you from your office there at the Coca Cola Space
- 27:42Speaker 5: Science Center. So I mean we do half of the
- 27:44Speaker 5: show each week basically from there anyway, but this time
- 27:48Speaker 5: we'll both be there and we'll be live inside the
- 27:54Speaker 5: planetarium there under the Dome. I mean, that's what we're
- 27:57Speaker 5: going to be doing. We'll be right there doing Made
- 28:00Speaker 5: of Stars live. We've not done this before with an audience.
- 28:03Speaker 5: We've had a small group of people around before, but
- 28:06Speaker 5: we've never had a big group of people before to
- 28:09Speaker 5: do this. So we're hoping to fill up the auditorium there,
- 28:16Speaker 5: and we would love to have you. It's free. I mean,
- 28:19Speaker 5: we you know, want to pack the place out. We'd
- 28:21Speaker 5: love to get as many of you there as possible.
- 28:23Speaker 5: We've heard from many of you interested in coming to
- 28:26Speaker 5: actually check out the show, so we're we're excited about
- 28:30Speaker 5: the folks. We've already heard from, but November the first
- 28:33Speaker 5: will be our very first Made of Stars Live. We
- 28:36Speaker 5: hope to make this a regular event, so if we
- 28:39Speaker 5: get a nice attendant, it's a nice turnout.
- 28:42Speaker 4: No reason we can't do this again.
- 28:44Speaker 5: It will be very similar to the show as far
- 28:47Speaker 5: as content goes, but obviously we'll have some things there
- 28:50Speaker 5: for those they'll be there attending live. So we're looking
- 28:52Speaker 5: forward to having you guys come out and check out
- 28:56Speaker 5: the show for us from Made of Stars Live. Now,
- 28:58Speaker 5: this is the other good part of this because you're
- 29:00Speaker 5: getting a two fer. Not only is it free for
- 29:04Speaker 5: you to come check out Made of Stars Live. Immediately
- 29:08Speaker 5: after there's Astronomy Night, which will also go for the
- 29:11Speaker 5: great lolo price of free, so you can check out
- 29:15Speaker 5: Doctor Rosa Williams and her team will be showing you
- 29:19Speaker 5: the nighttime sky weather permitting, but also giving you a
- 29:23Speaker 5: breakdown on what's in the sky and what you'll have
- 29:26Speaker 5: a chance to look at there. So it'll be like
- 29:28Speaker 5: a full night of things. But we'll go back to back.
- 29:31Speaker 5: We'll do Made a Stars Live followed by Astronomy Night
- 29:33Speaker 5: there at the Coca Cola Space Science Center, and we
- 29:36Speaker 5: hope to see you there.
- 29:38Speaker 2: Imagine this podcast as performance art. There you go, that's
- 29:43Speaker 2: what it's going to be. And by the way, for
- 29:45Speaker 2: those of you who have made it this far through
- 29:47Speaker 2: the podcast today, thank you for listening all the way
- 29:49Speaker 2: to the end. I promise to stop singing karaoke and
- 29:52Speaker 2: blowing out my voice before the next Before that live
- 29:55Speaker 2: podcast on the first of November, I will rehabilitate my voice.
- 30:00Speaker 2: I appreciate your patience getting this far. But yeah, we're
- 30:03Speaker 2: we're going to be you know, I imagine, you know,
- 30:06Speaker 2: Made of Stars as a stage performance. It's a first
- 30:09Speaker 2: for us and it's gonna be kind of interesting. We're
- 30:11Speaker 2: gonna have absolutely as much fun as we possibly can,
- 30:14Speaker 2: and then we're gonna go look at the sky with telescopes.
- 30:17Speaker 2: How bad could it be for the low price of
- 30:19Speaker 2: free ninety five? As Wes said, it's gonna be. It's
- 30:21Speaker 2: gonna be free of charge, and we're hoping you come
- 30:24Speaker 2: out and join us for that really fun event on
- 30:26Speaker 2: November first, here at the Space Sign Center. That is
- 30:28Speaker 2: a Saturday, by the way, so you know it's not
- 30:30Speaker 2: it's not like a workday for the majority of folks.
- 30:33Speaker 5: I would just like to also point this out speaking
- 30:35Speaker 5: of your voice, and I appreciate you were a trooper
- 30:37Speaker 5: to do this today with your your voice being a
- 30:40Speaker 5: bit strained. I just want to point out that like
- 30:42Speaker 5: a month ago, I had surgery on my neck that
- 30:45Speaker 5: involved a human being navigating medical instruments and implements around
- 30:52Speaker 5: all of my like esophagus and all of my voice box,
- 30:57Speaker 5: everything just moving around in there to get it to
- 31:00Speaker 5: my spine and do this surgery. My voice was a
- 31:03Speaker 5: little raspye, and we did the next show after that
- 31:07Speaker 5: with a little bit of rasp in my voice. And
- 31:10Speaker 5: I don't talk nearly as much as you do, and
- 31:13Speaker 5: yours sounds quite a bit more strained than I think
- 31:16Speaker 5: mine did back then, and you do the majority of
- 31:20Speaker 5: the talking. So I appreciate you for doing this today,
- 31:23Speaker 5: and Sean and I do appreciate you listening, and we
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