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Red and Blue: Jarom Jordan on BYU moving into the top 10, Program defining win for BYU in his lifetime + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: He joins us now to talk a little BYU. Jerem Jordan, welcome.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude.
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  Speaker 1: Before we get into talking about the 2026 BYU Cougars,
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  Speaker 1: you and I are the same age, right? For you
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  Speaker 1: and for your experience as a BYU fan, follower, supporter,
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  Speaker 1: media member, whatever, what is the program defining victory for
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  Speaker 1: Utah football, excuse me, for BYU football?
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  Speaker 2: Speaker 2 I'll take for Utah football.
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  Speaker 3: What for BYU program defining, you're saying like the best
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  Speaker 3: win ever, essentially program defining from BYU.
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  Speaker 1: Speaker 0 But, but for you, right? Because it's a
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  Speaker 1: national championship victory. Like you, you, you don't know you
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  Speaker 1: weren't there. You didn't have a memory of 1984.
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  Speaker 2: Speaker 2 My.
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  Speaker 3: Parents went to the game and I was one and
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  Speaker 3: they didn't take me. I could have said I was there,
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  Speaker 3: but they.
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  Speaker 2: Left me at my aunt and uncle's house. I'm serious.
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  Speaker 2: I'm mad about it to this day. I would have
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  Speaker 2: been a nuisance to it.
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  Speaker 1: You wouldn't have, you wouldn't have remembered anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about like, like for you watching whatever happened
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  Speaker 1: at BYU football and saying like, wow, that's who we
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  Speaker 1: are right there.
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  Speaker 3: That's a good question because there's sort of layers to
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  Speaker 3: this with the modern era and more recently, and obviously,
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  Speaker 3: you know, year four in the a big 12, you know,
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  Speaker 3: is it a, is it like ending the streak against Utah?
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  Speaker 3: That was a big moment for you. I didn't 21
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  Speaker 3: the day after they got the big COVID invite. That
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  Speaker 3: feels like a big one of like, all right, we're
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  Speaker 3: here to play.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go.
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  Speaker 3: I buy also think about like 2009 beating Oklahoma and
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  Speaker 3: Jerry's world on ABC and the whole country seeing Max Hall.
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  Speaker 2: And Dennis Pitt and those guys get that win. There's
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  Speaker 2: been a bunch of good ones. I'm hoping that it's
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  Speaker 2: Notre Dame this year. Like that's the one I hope
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  Speaker 2: it is.
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  Speaker 1: That would be a really big one That would be a.
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  Speaker 3: Huge one, given how good Notre Dame is and where
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  Speaker 3: BYU is. I mean, this is, this is assuming BYU
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  Speaker 3: takes care of business, Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they don't play anybody before they play BYU is
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  Speaker 2: this could be, you know, one of the biggest matchups ever.
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  Speaker 3: There've never been a top 10 versus top 10 game
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  Speaker 3: in Provo.
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  Speaker 2: That's never happened. It's only happened once on the road.
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  Speaker 2: It was last year at Texas tech. BYU didn't play well.
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  Speaker 2: So there's an opportunity here. So I I'd probably say
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  Speaker 2: 21 beating Utah.
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  Speaker 3: And kind of what that meant in terms of the
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  Speaker 3: trajectory of like, oh, we got the big 12 invite, like.
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  Speaker 2: We're on equal footing now and the streak ends. That was,
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  Speaker 2: that was a big moment. Certainly for BYU.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. I think that one would appear on a lot
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  Speaker 1: of BYU fans list. Now, now let's talk about the
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  Speaker 1: now number nine ranked 2026 BYU Cougars. Is there any
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  Speaker 1: kind of imposter syndrome lingering for BYU in this fan base?
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  Speaker 1: Because even a couple of weeks ago, I talked to
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  Speaker 1: a guy who he's a professor at BYU. And when
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  Speaker 1: the It was like 13 at the time. He's like,
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  Speaker 1: are we really the 13th best team in the country?
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, dude, BYU is really good this year.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know because the level of competition, while it's
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  Speaker 1: been better for BYU than it has for some other
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  Speaker 1: big 12 teams, including Utah, you've yet to face the
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  Speaker 1: toughest test, certainly. But is this a top 10 team
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  Speaker 1: in your mind and in the mind of the collective
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  Speaker 1: BYU consciousness?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they are based on who they were
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  Speaker 3: at the end of the season last year, how many
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  Speaker 3: people they returned and then how they've looked when the
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  Speaker 3: starters are in. I don't think we need to worry about, well,
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  Speaker 3: how the threes looked in the fourth quarter against CSU
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  Speaker 3: is third string. Like it just doesn't it's whatever the
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  Speaker 3: pollsters didn't care. So why should we, I know fans
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  Speaker 3: are really in a prosperity moment here.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, it's going to be all right, boys and girls.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be okay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly they'll have a chance to prove it, but
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  Speaker 3: when the ones are in, you always looked really good and,
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  Speaker 3: and they'll have a chance to prove it here in
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  Speaker 3: the next couple of weeks with a TCU, Iowa state,
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  Speaker 3: you certainly expect to be ready to win those games,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, be always tuned for and for with
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  Speaker 3: historically have one there in 20 years, but it's time
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  Speaker 3: to time to change that. And then I would say
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  Speaker 3: it's looked a little better than we.
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  Speaker 2: Thought, but they don't seem You got to show up.
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  Speaker 2: So the BYU wins those and they're.
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  Speaker 3: Five and on, they play six, no Notre Dame. That's
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  Speaker 3: a collision course for an opportunity there. Now I'm not
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  Speaker 3: convinced the BYU needs to win the game to make.
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  Speaker 2: The playoff per se, but if they show well, they
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  Speaker 2: compete really well. And then they get to the big
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  Speaker 2: 12 title game and you know, they win that they're going.
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  Speaker 3: To be in because power conference champs get auto bids.
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  Speaker 3: But also if If BYU competes well with Notre Dame,
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  Speaker 3: let's say they have one regular season loss. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know where it comes, but the chances are high that
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  Speaker 3: BYU is going to lose in the regular season at
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  Speaker 3: least once.
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  Speaker 2: Come on. You know, maybe twice. I would kind of
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  Speaker 2: one and a half kind of the line there for
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  Speaker 2: how good this team is right now, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 2: then you go to the big total title game, you
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  Speaker 2: compete well, and it's tight. You've got a way better
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  Speaker 2: chance to be an at-large than you had the last
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  Speaker 2: two years, because you've built up some credibility over now,
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  Speaker 2: three years going into the end of this year. And
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  Speaker 2: you will have competed with Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 3: Who probably is going to run the table in the
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  Speaker 3: regular season. 11 and one, they'll be in the playoff.
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  Speaker 3: You just have more good data points than BYU had
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  Speaker 3: last year, even though they were 11 and one in
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  Speaker 3: the regular season. So I do believe they are a
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  Speaker 3: top 10 worthy team right now. And I'm excited to
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  Speaker 3: watch them compete every week because they are, they are,
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  Speaker 3: they know they're good, but they're not, they're not a
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  Speaker 3: team that is, you know, anything but humble because of
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  Speaker 3: the two losses at Texas Tech last year. They know
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  Speaker 3: they have to prove something at a higher level.
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  Speaker 1: If BYU beats Notre Dame, but loses to Utah and
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  Speaker 1: then misses the playoff, is that an acceptable outcome for
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  Speaker 1: this team? Or would that be a failure in some
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  Speaker 1: people's minds?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if I see like that scenario playing
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  Speaker 3: out in terms of.
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  Speaker 2: Got, they they're on the end of the playoff probably. Right.
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  Speaker 3: If let's say that plays out, they go 11, one,
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  Speaker 3: they beat Notre Dame. They lose to Utah. They're probably
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  Speaker 3: rematching with Utah on the pixel side of it.
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  Speaker 2: And then if, you know, if they win that they're in,
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  Speaker 2: if they lose that and it's competitive, like how were
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  Speaker 2: those margins?
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  Speaker 3: We learned that last year, like margins of management BYU
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  Speaker 3: was 12, no against everybody not named Texas tech.
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  Speaker 2: So that'd be interesting.
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  Speaker 3: But I think in Notre Dame, when would carry a
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  Speaker 3: lot with the committee. So it's a huge opportunity. I'd
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  Speaker 3: said it before with you and others, like this was
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  Speaker 3: literally the best realistic possible scenario was like that BYU
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  Speaker 3: could somehow get Notre Dame trouble. Like, are you kidding
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  Speaker 3: me next year?
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  Speaker 2: BYU hosts, Texas tech and they play at Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 2: So that's good. It's going to be gnarly.
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  Speaker 1: Too.
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  Speaker 1: He looked like the returning offensive player of
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  Speaker 1: the year in the big 12 conference. I don't expect
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  Speaker 1: his stat line to look like this. Once you get
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  Speaker 1: into big 12 play in earnest, I don't expect it
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  Speaker 1: to be almost 200 yards every single game or 11
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  Speaker 1: plus yards per carry. But it felt like this was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the game that reminded everyone exactly what that
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  Speaker 1: guy is.
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  Speaker 2: That's what they needed in that game. Right. Against Arizona,
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  Speaker 2: you know, bear Bachmeier did a good job through the air.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I think BYU is pretty chameleon in a
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  Speaker 2: good way. Like what does this game require? And it
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  Speaker 2: was a dominant run game. Barry Bachmeier didn't throw a
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  Speaker 2: touchdown pass. Could he have thrown five if they knew that?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, but it was LG on the ground and journey
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  Speaker 3: Tonga came in the third or fourth string guy. And
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  Speaker 3: he's been a revelation as well.
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  Speaker 2: And in kind of those reps where they know BYU
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  Speaker 2: is going to run and he still had success when
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  Speaker 2: they were 38, seven, you know, late in the third
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  Speaker 2: or whatever. So LJ is the real deal, man. Like
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  Speaker 2: he's the top five running back in college football. I
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  Speaker 2: can see an argument for the best college. Running back
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  Speaker 2: right now.
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  Speaker 3: Like that BYU O-line is really good. Pocky Finau has
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  Speaker 3: been tremendous at left tackle. And then BYU's, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, Kyle Svarchuk was out for that game. They're hoping
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  Speaker 2: to have him back against TCU. But Trevin Osler stepped in,
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  Speaker 2: did a nice job.
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  Speaker 3: He's got good tight ends and receivers that blocked downfield.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's been a strength of BYU kind of
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  Speaker 3: skill positions. There's they, they give a crap in the
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  Speaker 3: run game, right? They're engaged downfield.
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  Speaker 2: You saw three dudes running with LJ on that like
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  Speaker 2: 56 yarder on the second play from scrimmage or was
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  Speaker 2: it 65? Like that was, that was crazy.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, that's what BYU is built on when they
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  Speaker 3: play action deep and legend Glasgow has been awesome. And yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's fun to see this BYU team more explosive than
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  Speaker 3: last year.
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  Speaker 1: They have not been running bear Bachmeier very much. Bear
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  Speaker 1: Bachmeier is a pocket passer. Is this indicative these first
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  Speaker 1: three games indicative of what you think expect the game
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  Speaker 1: plan to be with him and his legs for the
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  Speaker 1: course of the season? Or are they just kind of
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  Speaker 1: like keeping that in the back pocket? Because we know
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  Speaker 1: what it looks like when he decides to get loose
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  Speaker 1: and we know he's capable of producing big numbers with
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  Speaker 1: his legs and timely numbers, maybe more importantly with his legs,
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  Speaker 1: but he kind of hasn't had to, and they haven't
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  Speaker 1: designed that into the offense yet.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly right.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's in the bag. It's sitting there if
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  Speaker 3: they need it. He's still five yards of carry with sacks,
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  Speaker 3: even though he's only been sacked twice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they need it, which is great.
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  Speaker 2: And it's with out Sione Moore, who's probably out till
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  Speaker 2: mid to late October at the earliest. So that's been
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  Speaker 2: nice because you know that Bear is going to be
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  Speaker 2: effective with his legs. He did have a rushing touchdown
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  Speaker 2: in each of the first two games. BYU's been money
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  Speaker 2: in the red zone, Sean. They had one meal down
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  Speaker 2: against Arizona, which shouldn't really count. Then they threw a
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  Speaker 2: pick last week. Other scoring touchdowns.
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  Speaker 3: Like they scored on their first 13 red zone possessions touchdowns.
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  Speaker 3: So that's, that's domination, which is great. They'll, they'll use
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  Speaker 3: bear when they need it in the run game. They
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  Speaker 3: just have so many options this year. It's like offensively,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like this team is even better than we
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  Speaker 3: thought it would be, which is great.
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  Speaker 2: And no one's talked about, Oh, they missed chase and Parker. Like,
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  Speaker 2: which is crazy. Those are two good players. You always
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  Speaker 2: been really explosive all over the place.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned the, uh, the kneel down against Arizona.
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  Speaker 1: There were a small contingent, at least the BYU fans
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  Speaker 1: on social media who were like, what are we doing?
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  Speaker 1: You got style points matter and you got to run
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  Speaker 1: this thing up. And we talked about this a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: Brent Brennan and Kalani are friends. And so they're not
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  Speaker 1: going to do that. Um, but like, this is this
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  Speaker 1: is who Kalani Satake is, right? Is, is there, is
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  Speaker 1: there a real thought that that could potentially be detrimental
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  Speaker 1: to this team in any way? He's not going to
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  Speaker 1: do it against Arizona. He's also not going to do
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  Speaker 1: it against Colorado state. Like he's just, it's just not
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  Speaker 1: that he's not going to Dan Lanning his way against
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  Speaker 1: Portland state throwing passes with 30 seconds left when you're
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  Speaker 1: already up 77, you know, like, is there a real
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  Speaker 1: thought that this could be to the detriment of BYU
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  Speaker 1: in any way?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so because the AP poll has not
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  Speaker 3: shown that, you know, BYU climbed four after the Arizona
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  Speaker 3: win BYU climbed, uh, you know, two last week. Some
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  Speaker 3: of that is product of who's what's happening in front
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  Speaker 3: of you, but it's also respect for who you are.
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  Speaker 2: Which kind of eliminates any of that, you know, statistically
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  Speaker 2: where you can go, Oh, be always 22nd game control.
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  Speaker 2: They were 53rd. And then last week they became 22nd
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  Speaker 2: after the CSU game.
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  Speaker 3: So if you're looking at the actual numbers, people know,
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  Speaker 3: but that playoff committee is going to dig in.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to know like, Nope, they nailed it out
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  Speaker 2: in these games or whatever. It's also, we're going to
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  Speaker 2: have so many more data points. So I I don't
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  Speaker 2: think so.
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  Speaker 3: Also, Kalani has said a couple of things that make
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  Speaker 3: sense to me with this. One is, he said, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not going to jeopardize my starters.
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  Speaker 2: Like, why would I?
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  Speaker 3: Bear and LJ and these guys, they're healthy. There's some
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  Speaker 3: guys that are a little banged up. So that makes
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  Speaker 3: sense to me. And then the other is Kalani knows
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  Speaker 3: where he is. He's at BYU where they are going
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  Speaker 3: to do things a little differently. And if people don't
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  Speaker 3: understand that he and BYU, I don't think care. Like
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  Speaker 3: he is a certain kind of person who is fully
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  Speaker 3: aligned with what the school is. And this actually aligns
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  Speaker 3: with the bigger mission.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm, I'm on board. It doesn't affect BYU in
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  Speaker 2: the polls. It's not going to affect BYU with the
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  Speaker 2: college football playoff committee because they know ball.
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  Speaker 3: They're not just looking at a score and sending an
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  Speaker 3: email to vote in a poll or something like.
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  Speaker 2: It's, I think Kalani gets it.
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  Speaker 3: Like there's not a soul on earth that doesn't respect
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  Speaker 3: that man.
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  Speaker 1: Jerem Jordan here on red and blue on the Sean
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  Speaker 1: O'Connell show. This segment is brought to you by friends
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  Speaker 1: at Murdoch Ford, Santa Quinn. All right, so this BYU
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  Speaker 1: football team heads into Big 12 conference play now in earnest.
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  Speaker 1: They already have had one Big 12 game, which gives
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  Speaker 1: them one more than most teams in the conference. On
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  Speaker 1: the road at TCU, this is, I think, at least
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  Speaker 1: a good TCU team. I don't know if we're aware
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  Speaker 1: that they're great or anything close to that TCU team
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  Speaker 1: so far. They beat Grambling and Arkansas State convincingly. They
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  Speaker 1: lost a close one to North Carolina for people that
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  Speaker 1: don't have it in front of them. And, you know,
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  Speaker 1: this is a BYU team that, like you said, looks
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  Speaker 1: really good and is firing on all cylinders now. So
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  Speaker 1: the next time out will be in a couple of
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: weeks for BYU. Is TCU a threat?
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: I think everybody in the league is. I don't think anybody's.
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: So good they can just chill. So TCU is interesting because, yeah,
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: they have dominated the last two weeks. They've been out
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: without Jordan Dwyer, their top receiver. He comes back this week,
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: so that's notable. Jaden Craig's played much better. Obviously, the
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: competition was worse last two weeks. He did not play
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: well in the rain in Dublin against UNC. Shout out
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: to Bill Belichick's sweatshirt. But Ed Small has looked good
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: at receiver. Jeremy Payne has looked good at running back.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: They're a threat. BYU needs to show up.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: And then you just kind of look at history, which
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: sometimes has nothing to do with the game. But BYU's
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: only won twice there, two and four. Haven't won since
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: 06 there. Haven't played a ton of games. got punked
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: a couple of years ago in 23 by 33 points.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: But BYU did the punking last year by 31. So yeah,
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: this is, this is an important game next week. BYU
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: should get a little healthier and then certainly be motivated
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: to play.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: TCU in game two. And when the stakes are so
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: high and the margins are so thin, Like BYU wants
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: to be in the big 12 title game, make the
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: college football playoff. They are dialed in.
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: Like they are not taking anything for granted or nothing's easy.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: Like it's just, it's a team that's really focused and
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: I'm excited to watch every single snap, including a.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Big game next week. It's almost a bummer that BYU
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: is not playing this week. Like they're, they're just so
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: focused and dialed in that it's fun to watch them play.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: I'm going to miss them. Not watching. I'm not playing
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: this week, but yeah, we have six ranked on ranked
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: matchups this week. Like I, I, I'm excited for this weekend.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: I actually, if I'm BYU, I, I hate that this
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: is where my bi-week fell. And I know that coaches don't,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: they don't complain about schedules because you just take what
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: you get. But I, I hate that I'm having a
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: bi-week after three very easily won games effectively. And, and
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: it interrupts a little bit momentum, but then it also
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: sets you up for just this crazy stretch run for
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: the rest of the season.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be nine weeks of brutality. I mean,
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: next year is going to be nice where they kind
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: of move the schedule up into August, and then you
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: have two bye weeks. I think that's great.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: Kind of more NFL-ish where it's like, all right, we
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: know that this is tough physically.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Let's get you guys as healthy as possible. So, yeah,
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: it's going to be fun, man. I'm stoked to watch it.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: I'm stoked to watch the Big 12 games this weekend.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Like the Oklahoma State-West Virginia game.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Is like, wait, which one of you is actually– more
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: legit than the.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Other end in the big 12. There's some interesting games.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: Reece Davis has been, he's had a cool comment where
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: he didn't talk about.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: The depth of the league. He said, I think it's wide.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: I think that's an accurate description kind of visually like,
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: are there a bunch of top end teams? There's three
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: in the top 15 right now. Like I think, yes,
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: let's hope there's two playoff teams. I think that'd be great.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's, it's a league that there's not a
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: ton of just gimme's in the league, which is, which
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: is kind of nice.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: We had a great Houston versus Texas tech Friday night game.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you watched at least as much as you could.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: It came down to literally the final inches Wegman trying
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: to get in. Did we learn anything important about both teams?
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Houston's really good too. That Texas tech is still figuring
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: out how to win, even though their defense is not as.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Dominant as it was last year. And they throw the pick,
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: they go down, you know, what are they trying to run?
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: We'll hand it out of town.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't understand though. I understand why they brought
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: in stores. B that didn't work out.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Hammond's the guy he said, he said some comments like, yeah,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: I thought that was weird. they throw Castellanos in on
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: the first point, he throws a pick.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like, are you guys trying to get well, having
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: to transfer? Like, I don't understand how they're kind of
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: handling will, where they think they can just do better.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't get it. I don't know, but that's,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: that's good. I think they're the third best team in
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: the league right now.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: And I still think They they're deserving of like a
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: top 15, top 20 ranking.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: There's three good teams in the league. Like they stick out.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a fun race to see which
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: to actually make it to Arlington with the BYU time
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: and Texas tech. So they, yeah, tech tech offended. It's
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: them against the world. Well, yeah. When you handle swords
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: being that way, it's going to be like that. And
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: they don't, they don't really play any, but they don't
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: play a tough schedule. So I think tech's got a
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: good chance to be in Arlington. but I would love
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: for BYU and Utah to be stuck too. I think
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: that would be amazing.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Speaker 0 7th, no sacks for BYU against Colorado state.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Is that okay? Speaker 4 7th, I think so.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: You know, you love in a game where you're up big,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: that you rack up a couple, but again, the starters
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: weren't there much and they were kind of making Haseeni
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: beat them through the air and then Haseeni.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: And Sam string and the backups in and you know,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: he's scrambling a little bit. And so, yeah, it did.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: You'd love a few, but Kelly ping has said, sacks
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: might be the most overrated defensive statistic in his opinion yet.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Keanu ton of Boston in Paul camp said, Hey, we
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: want 50 sacks.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Like, dude, that would be awesome. I love that you
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: said 50, but no.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I asked that question because, you know, I'm nitpicking on
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: everything we've seen from Utah so far. And it's like,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: you know, you want, you want that. You want to
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: be able to, to paint a complete picture. I think
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: with BYU, it's pretty clear. They're going to be able
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: to run the ball effectively. They're going to be able
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: to pass the ball effectively.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I liked the DeVries kid in the return game. I
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: think that's a, that's kind of a fun revelation. If
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: you're a BYU fan and I'm looking at this, the
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: defense and I'm saying, all right, yeah, you got all these,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Fast guys running around. Oh, there's something. I can say, like, Akana,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: why didn't you have another two and a half sacks?
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: What's going on here? It just feels like a weird
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: goose egg in a game that was otherwise dominant for BYU.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's all good.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Like, frankly, it's just like, let's just be as healthy
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: as possible and move along with our lives. Like, BYU
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: was minus one in margin. You know, CSU, they came
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: in as the number one takeaway team in the country.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: They got two. One pick from Bear, one pick from
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Jason Borgan, a tip.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: So, it's all good, man. You know, if it was minus.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Three or four, then maybe it would have been a game, but...
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: I can turn it over that much typically. So yeah, we're,
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: we're picking nets for sure. As Bill Simmons says to
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: see what can they do better? We even talked about
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: that today on BYU sports nation. It's like things are
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: going pretty great.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Let's be honest.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: All right. So with a no BYU game to watch
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: to work this weekend, you mentioned it's a great college
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: football slate. What is the, what is the game plan
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: for Jerem Jordan on Saturday?
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Well, first off, my daughter has a Utah Kendrick volleyball
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: playoff game. I am the coach, and so that's the
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: first order of business. The second is my 8-year-old son
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: has a tackle football game in the middle of the day.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: That is the second order of business.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: And then there are other matchups of interest. And if
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: you're BYU and, frankly, Utah... you're keeping an eye on
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: a couple of games where you could either get leaped
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: or move up a little bit. You know, one of
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: those is like, can, if LSU loses, they get out
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: to a and M that's the battle of.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Teams that lost last week. Does LSU slide out of
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: the way? Does Utah move up? Does, does be right.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Kind of hold its spot.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: If LSU beats Texas a and M LSU might pass BYU, USC,
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: Oregon's interesting as well. USC could move up only like
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: kind of four and O team in the mix who
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: played week zero that's ranked like that.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: I think so. Yeah.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: You keep an eye on a few of these games
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: and then just from an entertainment value, just nice relaxing day,
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Do the yard work then maybe Sunday. I'm not sure,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: but it's, it's nice to have a bi-week. I don't
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: have another game. I'm calling Sean. I call volleyball and
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: sometimes soccer. I don't have any of those this week.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: So it's, it's a night, you know, it's a bi-week
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I'm enjoying it. Probably should have gone out of town somewhere,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: but we got, we.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Got kids sporting events, man. Plus I got to get
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: that sidecar from somebody that roll around in this weekend,
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: you know, the Canyon or something.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: We're going to go take it in the leaves up
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: the canyons, a little alpine loop maybe?
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do miss starting canyon in the fall, going
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: up for like a BYU-Utah State game and just how
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: pretty the leaves were there. But Utah's awesome, man. I
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: love living here. It's so pretty.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: 31-7 victory for your Seahawks over the Cardinals. And any
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: significant takeaways from that for you?
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: We are not the chargers. That's what I already knew,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: but yeah. Holy crap. The chargers stink. And the Raiders
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: are two and oh, and yeah, the Rams are back.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Bummer with Jackson dart last night, by the way, hilarious
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: memes with Caleb Williams and the bears. You never like
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: to see a guy get injured, but pretty funny commentary
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: on that video. All of Paul Pierce, which years later,
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: he said he had to go to the bathroom.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Not, not an injury, which is like, wait, what? You
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: just ruined one of the greatest moments of all time. Yeah.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: So you're actually looking good. And it's the West is
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: going to.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: Be as brutal as we thought, but, and Niners looks great.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, man, the dolphins are bad, but when the
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Niners are healthy, scary, like as scary or scarier than
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: the Rams. Cause right now it's like what Sam Darnold's
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: going to come back next week, apparently.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Or this week, sorry, against the commanders. No, Jane Daniels.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: So it shouldn't be as difficult. So We'll see, man.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: It's a, the NFL and full swing college football. I'm
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: loving my life. My, my happiness levels at like a thousand.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: So let's go.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Well, let's keep it there. Jerem, always appreciate your time.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Thanks for hopping on again today.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Sean.
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