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Bears Over Beers: Training Camp 2025 Extravaganza! · 2nd City Gridiron

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[SPEAKER_05]: What's up, everybody?
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[SPEAKER_05]: We're finally back.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's Bears Overbears presented by Second City, Gridiron.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm Ryan Drasty here with my guy, Brian Orangeuk, we're kicking off Chicago Bears Training Camp.
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[SPEAKER_05]: In twenty five, Brian, the day has finally, or the week I should say, has finally arrived.
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[SPEAKER_05]: How you doing, my man?
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[SPEAKER_08]: Doing great, doing great, high energy in the air for
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[SPEAKER_08]: Chicago land for the new season, for the new everything, man, new aura in Chai Town.
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[SPEAKER_08]: So stoked to chat about what to expect, what we've already learned from today.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And obviously get some killer insight from other folks as well.
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[SPEAKER_08]: So really excited, man, how about you?
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[SPEAKER_05]: very excited.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I wish I was going this year.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It doesn't look like it's in the cards.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Can't tickets were really hard to come by.
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[SPEAKER_05]: In fact, I was on the road when they went up for, not for sale, but you know, to claim, hold off the side of the road, couldn't, could not get them.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Would love to go.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, if there's any listeners out there as extra tickets, please reach out to me if I'm on social at Ryan Drosty or reach out to Brian as well.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I will not be in being like force this year.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Would have loved to have done that, but really excited to read and see what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_05]: each and every day.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Brian, you mentioned we're going to have a great crew with us tonight.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, we have this idea to do kind of a kick off to the season getting started, a training camp extravaganza for lack of a better term.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Listen to the crew we have joining us tonight.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They're going to be coming a staggered like ten to fifteen minute intervals.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We got Taylor doll.
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[SPEAKER_05]: from Wendy City Grant, Grant Iron, and Second City Grid Iron, of course.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We got Eric Durwalkter, Wendy City Grid Iron.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Josh Sunderbrook, Sarah Denickelow, all from Wendy City Grid Iron.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And the boss man himself, Lester, Wilthong Jr.
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[SPEAKER_05]: will be here later on.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Bill Zimmerman, also, and Greg Bragg's Jr.
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[SPEAKER_05]: from CHGO.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We have a loaded line-up, you know, we said we got to get on the air right away, Brian.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So let's get to it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: What are you drinking tonight?
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[SPEAKER_08]: Starting off, I'm pacing myself.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I am going non-alcoholic to start, but I've been really enjoying this particular one.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And don't worry, I've got some alcoholic as well in the mix tonight.
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[SPEAKER_08]: But this is a Sierra Nevada Trail Pass Hazy IPA, really refreshing, really well done beer you wouldn't be able to tell it's non-alcoholic.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And I'll have to, I'll have to intro my next one.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I've got a special idea for that one.
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[SPEAKER_08]: So, but what about you?
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[SPEAKER_08]: I know you are thinking something big today.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I was now interesting enough.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I do have a Sierra Nevada branded beer also, but that is in case I need to get to beer number two tonight.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So that I got that one in reserve.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Brian.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But here's what I have.
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[SPEAKER_05]: This is from Dubuque, Iowa.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It is a, it's a West Coast IPA from a brewery called Dimensional.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And it's a West Coast double IPA.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I might get into some trouble tonight.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's about eight percent.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Air Jonesy.
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[SPEAKER_09]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I actually do not know who this is named after, but I like the can.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Air Jonesy tonight, correct this open.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, cheers.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And we'll get started here.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Cheers, my man.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Cheers, my friend.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I should also say that, you know, I got this revolution brewing, Hank last year out of Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We might have some news to share about theirs over beers, pint glasses in the weeks ahead.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We'll stay tuned.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Stay tuned for that, everybody.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_08]: My pints live in my freezer for moments like these.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Cheers.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'll send you an other drink.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Cheers.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Cheers.
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[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So a little glimpse behind the scenes here.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Most of our questions tonight were developed by none other than Brian Orange.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So Brian, would you like to ask me one of your questions?
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[SPEAKER_05]: And one of the questions will be asking our guests as they proceed through this evening.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yes, and this first one part of my intrigue is hearing how you folks answer it because it could go a couple different ways.
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[SPEAKER_08]: But first and foremost, you know, when it comes to training camp, obviously the players are practicing against their teammates.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Many of them are fighting for roster spots or jockeying for position on the depth chart.
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[SPEAKER_08]: So my first question that my first intrigue in watching camp is which position battles or battle are you most looking forward to seeing pan out?
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm gonna go a little outside the box on this one because, and by the way, if you're listening, feel free to chime in with your own answers.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We'd love to share some of them on the show here, and super chats are open by the way.
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[SPEAKER_05]: If you wanna support the show that way, I think most people are gonna say left tackle for this one, right?
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm not gonna lie that as one of my most anticipated, we got three guys, but I mean, really when it comes to that it's probably two.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And that's going to be really intriguing, but I'm going to throw it a different direction for you here.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I am very interested at what could happen in the battle between Tyreek Stevenson and Terrell Smith.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Because obviously, after last year, Tyreek has a lot to prove, I think.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And he's got to prove to the new coaching staff that he's got his head in the game and things like what we saw last year or not going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And Terrell Smith is a guy who
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[SPEAKER_05]: I have really enjoyed watching this guy out of Minnesota.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I think every time he gets playing time, he delivers.
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[SPEAKER_05]: In fact, Bill Zimmerman is going to be joining us later.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He pointed out an article recently on Woody City Gridiron that Terrell Smith has got a higher PFF score than Tyreek Stevenson.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm really intrigued there.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Smith, a third year man, you know, has got some stuff to prove.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Could he take over the starting job?
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[SPEAKER_05]: So to me, that's where I'm looking.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Nice.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I could see that for sure.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And it seems like, you know, you go back to LT spot.
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[SPEAKER_08]: You know, if you listen to Ben Johnson's press or yesterday, he was very clear.
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[SPEAKER_08]: It's open, open competition.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And one of the reporters asked if
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[SPEAKER_08]: If Braxton having experience gives him a leg up and then was basically like, you certainly would you would hope that his experience is an asset that he can use basically, but it's an open competition, right?
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[SPEAKER_08]: They're looking at and they're judging what they do in practice.
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[SPEAKER_08]: you know today and so I think that same mentality is likely going to be across the board including quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_08]: It's a clean slate so that the the boneheaded stuff that that Ty leaked in anyone else did last year that's in the past they're moving on so I agree I think that might be a you know kind of an unsung position group to watch.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I hear you there.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm going to different angle.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I almost settled on our guy, Austin Booker.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm really excited to see how he handles the off season and training camp and if he can step up in a past rush, maybe a second DN roll.
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[SPEAKER_08]: However, what I'm most interested in watching is, and here reports on is when the pads come on, that interior offensive line versus the interior defensive line.
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[SPEAKER_08]: So that position versus the other is what I'm fascinated by.
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[SPEAKER_08]: You know, we've not had an interior OL as strong as we have this season
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[SPEAKER_08]: you know, since gosh, I don't even know when, you know, maybe it's got to be since the Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And our DTs also got stronger.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And, and so I'm really excited to see them battle it out and, you know, during Dexter, if he can continue to ascend with, you know, obviously higher competition in front of him.
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[SPEAKER_08]: So that's what I'm really excited to see is can they keep the pocket clean for Caleb or does that D-line give them some lumps?
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[SPEAKER_08]: It's going to be intense, I think.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Really looking forward to it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I like it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Brian, I think maybe the way we should do this is kind of chime in with our thoughts on one of the four questions with our guests as we go.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So we just covered the first one and I think our first guest maybe we can ask her that question and then we can chime in in the second question where she answers that one.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You think that's a good plan because we're already running behind schedule.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We don't want to make these wonderful people wait in the green room too long.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So let's bring them on.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, let's bring them on.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So our first guest tonight, she covers the Jacksonville jag wires down in Florida.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But of course, you would know we're here on this channel from the wonderful making monster show on second city grid iron.
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[SPEAKER_05]: None other than the legend herself.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Taylor dial.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Taylor, welcome to Bears Overbears.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, guys, how you doing?
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[SPEAKER_05]: We're good.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We're drinking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's football season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're ready.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, welcome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, thank you.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You have anything in the glass tonight, Taylor?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll be honest, I'm hydrating because it's about a hundred degrees in Florida and I'm being about seven a.m.
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[SPEAKER_00]: for Jags Camp.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So my world is a little bit different for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's also almost nine o'clock here and I've been going since seven a.m.
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[SPEAKER_00]: this morning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm hydrating and getting ready for the Florida Sun tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's acceptable.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's acceptable.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, HTO, HTO.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So Brian, ask Taylor the question that we just started off with.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We just answered this one.
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[SPEAKER_05]: This is kind of the first question on our list for the training camp at Extravaganza.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Brian, go ahead and you can go.
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[SPEAKER_08]: It can go, you know, however you interpret it Taylor, but you know, really excited to see how camp, you know, pans out for different position groups and whatnot, curious what your top position battle to watch is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I feel like the obvious one for most people may be that left tackle because now we've heard that between Kyron Amagaji and Praxon Jones and then obviously Ozzie Trepello too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That one is fascinating to me because I want the offensive line to be a lot better than what we've seen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're expecting that already with the moves they made this year on the interior.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you want that left tackle to be the left tackle of Caleb's future.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if we're able to establish that pretty early,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a good thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm going to shift a little bit and I'm going to go over to the secondary because I'm very, very interested how Dennis Allen kind of runs and navigates this secondary because I think we've seen blinces of a lot of the guys back there, but maybe not full potential.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm very, uh, I'm intrigued with that across from Jalen Johnson battle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know Tyric Stevenson, we've, we had the moments last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was, there's been a lot of ups and downs in his career.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when he's had, when he's been out, I personally think that's real Smith who I alert his nickname being tea time came in a did a very good job.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I, I'm interested to see what Dennis Allen does with that because everybody I've talked to about that Dennis Allen defense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know he's a secondary guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's important to him in general.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But also, once we get some cash rush going, which we hope, improve this year too, and especially on the anterior, that does open up a lot of opportunity for the secondary and the corners in general.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I am interested to see what that looks like and how that shakes out because I do think whoever is opposite of Jalen Johnson always gets picked on, and that's just how it's going to be because people avoid JJ.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's an important role to play on this team, especially on a dinner salad defense.
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[SPEAKER_05]: a smart woman.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's exactly what I said.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That was my pick as well.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_08]: That's the going.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_08]: So switching over to offense, then what, what player are you most aside from tackle?
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[SPEAKER_08]: Would you most kind of be watching on offense this training camp?
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[SPEAKER_00]: like that'll wise and general or just somebody that I think.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, just their development, how they show up, you know, kind of who's going to be a focal point when you, if you get a chance to go attend or watch highlights or hear reviews and whatnot, who's someone that you're really concerned but going to be focused on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think mine's going to continue from somebody I was already very interested in and excited about last year, and that's Roma Dune Day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love Rome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am a, I was very, very avid, and I was very vocal about how I would take Rome over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Marvin here, St.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Junior and my late neighbors last year, and people were like, you're insane.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's just how I felt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you add, when you get somebody who can,
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[SPEAKER_00]: do that fifty-fifty ball the contested catches the way that room did and we saw glimpses last year of that he actually I think was like the hurt third highest in contested catches in the NFL last year we saw the toe taps on the sideline all of those things are I think so important to adding just some a little extra umph to an offense and there were again ups and downs there were moments where him and Caleb were definitely not on the same page and so you hope that that has taken a next step I do blame some of that on the scheme
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of that was just I felt like the everything going on in Shane.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, James World was a little funky.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do think that year two Rome could be really, really fun to watch and especially because you have already seen blimpses of that chemistry between him and Caleb.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Antoine Randallel came in and said that he loved Rome a doonsake going to the draft last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think that's also a good thing because you're having coaches come in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: who said they already are big fans of these players.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's someone, and I think if the offense in general, I think past catchers will be fascinating to see how Ben Johnson utilizes these guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That tight end room is probably going to be really interesting to watch too, because a lot of fans including myself are big, cool, commit fans, but you drafted a tight end very high.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So how do you fit both of those in this offense and what does it look like?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think all three of those guys past catchers in general may be my pick, but I'm going to say room.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Nice.
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[SPEAKER_05]: What about you Ryan?
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[SPEAKER_05]: We're on the same wavelength because I swear we didn't coordinate these answers.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But like Brian, I feel like we talked about this.
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[SPEAKER_05]: What was it the second to last show when we were reacting to the draft?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Because in the air last show was the schedule release show.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We were reacting to the draft.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We were talking about like the bear's wide receiver room and what that could look like over the next couple of years.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And we talked about DJ's contract a little bit if I remember right and
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[SPEAKER_05]: I've heard a lot of bears reporters talking about Rome and you know, maybe in two, maybe three years, I think he could overtake DJ.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I think it happened this year.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I think he could be the clear cut number one guy on the bears offense.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Number one receiver this year.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So to me, it's going to be really fascinating because I felt he was
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, some of it was him and Caleb not being on the same page.
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[SPEAKER_05]: A lot of it was the offensive scheme, I think, you know, you go back and you watch the tape or roam last year and like his route running was very good.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, there's times when he was open, they didn't give him the ball.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I think with a better offensive coach behind him this year, I think Rome's going to be a major major factor in the offense.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm watching for him to have a breakout year this year.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, love it, love it, love it.
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[SPEAKER_08]: So I kind of pivoted on my answer.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I was kind of going back and forth.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Hearing that Colson Lovinus is ready to go.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Obviously, he's gonna ramp up a little bit, but he's physically ready to go for camp and expects to contribute, you know, starting the season.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm really intrigued by that, but my answer is Rochon Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_08]: You know, not drafting or running back high, like I had hoped and a lot of people hoped.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm very excited about Kalmanunga.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I think he's going to be a stud, you know, as far as a dependable ahead of his time as far as past blocking already, you know, sound fundamental football.
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[SPEAKER_08]: But the door is wide open for Rochon.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And Lester has written about this.
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[SPEAKER_08]: There's been a lot of pieces about this to step up into a Jamal Williams type of role for Ben Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And I saw a clip today.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I don't know if you guys saw that.
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[SPEAKER_08]: one handed caught a swing pass.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And then it was what he did after that that really caught my attention for Rome.
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[SPEAKER_08]: He had a really agile spin in a quick cut on a defender that even in flag football he wouldn't have been tackled.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And so for a guy that's almost two hundred thirty pounds.
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[SPEAKER_08]: to be moving like that, catching like that, who we know he's a short yardage guru.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm really excited to see how he does in camp if he starts getting more touches with the ones and how he does when pads come on because I think he could have a huge, sneaky, huge season.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I like it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that video to like he looked faster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, I don't know if just the way that video was filmed or what, but I was like, whoa, we're all shot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I think in the reports, we know the importance of running backs in a Ben Johnson system.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think the running back room in general to your point is easily kind of could be taken pretty easily.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think Roger's looking at it as this could be my job by the end.
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[SPEAKER_00]: to be not running back one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I did a podcast recently with Brett Coleman, who does the, you know, he works with, he does stuff with DJ Snyder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They break down a lot of film for Bula football.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was mentioning that too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was very, he kind of pounded the table for Rochon and this being his year too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So a lot of people are talking about that.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, awesome.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I love it too.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_08]: So flip it over to the defenses side, who is a player that you're gonna be focused on in, in, twenty, twenty-five on the defensive side.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a lot, but I think that when we're, there's so many names, as I, when you ask this question, I was like, there's so many different routes I could go with this because there's guys that you want to kind of see, take that next step and you're hoping that under Dennis Allen, they can, uh, uh, train Evans is one of those that you've seen so you know what train Evans is capable of and I feel like we just haven't been able to quite see it in Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think for me and I kind of had two answers because I wanted to say one that's been on the bears in the new edition, but my new edition, I'm going to say a Schmartner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am very excited about what he can do and I know it's probably a rotational role in the beginning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see what but
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[SPEAKER_00]: One thing about him is he's played everywhere on that defensive line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was the one at four players in college football the last three years that had over two hundred snaps at every single position on the defensive line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's obviously you can put it wherever he's going to be able to be a dominant player.
19:07
[SPEAKER_00]: But all of his sacks or the large majority of his sacks all came from the inside.
19:11
[SPEAKER_00]: That's something that we've needed to see a lot here and we haven't
19:14
[SPEAKER_00]: had a lot of here here of that interior pressure and how much that helps guys on the outside.
19:19
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm very excited to see what he does and then obviously in the mix with the Jvondexter who a lot of people are expecting him to continue to get better.
19:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I really loved Jvondexter and then you obviously you went and signed a great eagerate who also plays all over the defensive line and so you have the veteran he's been very vocal already and
19:37
[SPEAKER_00]: It kind of seems like he's taking this defense and his hands which I appreciate that come in and do you know do what you do because I'm here for it in the nature of buildings.
19:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Andrew buildings when it comes to better especially against the run is somebody that you definitely need on the defensive line in those situations.
19:51
[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe obvious running down you'll see him in there and then you can rotate the other guys and get some past rush going.
19:56
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm very excited about that and then when it comes to guys that's already been here.
20:01
[SPEAKER_00]: We need him to stay healthy, but jacquam brisker, I think can absolutely dominate in this defense with Dennis Allen.
20:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, I did a podcast on with someone who covered the Saints, Dennis Allen actually wanted to draft jacquam brisker when he was in New Orleans.
20:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Bears took a one-pick ahead of the Saints pick and they and then the Saints ended up going a lot to Taylor.
20:22
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's he's very familiar with Joquon Brusker is a big fan of Joquon Brusker knows how he wants to use Brusker and we've seen when Brusker's healthy he can be an absolute force on the field.
20:31
[SPEAKER_00]: So those are two guys that number one stay healthy Joquon because I think you make that our secondary a lot better but that under a Dennis Allen defense like I think we'll just see an absolutely sale.
20:41
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
20:42
[SPEAKER_08]: Love it.
20:43
[SPEAKER_08]: Love it.
20:43
[SPEAKER_08]: Love it.
20:43
[SPEAKER_08]: And I think these similar to Rochon in that prime opportunity to really blow up this season if they can stay healthy.
20:51
[SPEAKER_08]: Last thing before you go is, is any bull predictions?
20:54
[SPEAKER_08]: Anything crazy out there that you maybe haven't put out on the area?
20:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I haven't talked about a lot of bold predictions or affinity for the pair side of things.
21:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I've said by we did our JAX ones a couple weeks ago.
21:06
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was thinking about some of those, but when it comes to, I just feel like we may finally get that four thousand yard passer.
21:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And I, it scares me to say that because I feel like,
21:18
[SPEAKER_00]: We've talked about that before, but I honestly don't know if I've ever, I ever felt that with Justin Fields.
21:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I was a big Justin Fields fan, but because of the way he ran so much, I wasn't sure we were ever going to hit that mark with him.
21:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we can hit that mark with Caleb and Ben Johnson and these weapons, as long as, obviously, you want guys to stay healthy and you want Ben Johnson to be able to, we know he's a great offensive coordinator and play caller.
21:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, can he do all of it?
21:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Can he manage all of these things and put it all together?
21:42
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that will factor in big but I think we have a chance to actually see that this year and the moment that happens or there may be a parade in Chicago.
21:51
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, the ovation if it happens at soldier will be.
21:58
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh my gosh.
21:59
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not the game.
22:00
[SPEAKER_08]: I think Michael Jordan moment give the ball, you know, let him walk off with it and you know,
22:06
[SPEAKER_05]: I think the only way it doesn't happen is if he struggles with an injury or something.
22:09
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I can't imagine it not had.
22:11
[SPEAKER_05]: What do you have?
22:12
[SPEAKER_05]: Thirty-six hundred last year with all that shit strong going on around him.
22:16
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
22:18
[SPEAKER_08]: Nice.
22:19
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, Teed all, thank you for joining us.
22:22
[SPEAKER_08]: You've been burning the candle at both ends, not at football back, but I know you're loving it, girl.
22:27
[SPEAKER_08]: So thanks for joining us.
22:28
[SPEAKER_08]: It's a blast.
22:29
[SPEAKER_08]: We'll have to have you on for a full episode and recap some of this stuff.
22:32
[SPEAKER_08]: But I love your takes.
22:34
[SPEAKER_08]: Love everything about what you're doing and also from Jacksonville.
22:37
[SPEAKER_08]: So it's been fun to see your coverage there and it'll be fun to see these two young and improving teams kind of grow up alongside each other.
22:45
[SPEAKER_08]: So thanks for coming on.
22:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was joking today.
22:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Jack's camp where I was like, they both done so much this off season.
22:52
[SPEAKER_00]: If they both suck again, like, I'm hurts me.
22:55
[SPEAKER_05]: You're a problem.
22:55
[SPEAKER_05]: You're up all.
22:57
[SPEAKER_05]: I can do a team.
22:58
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
22:58
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
22:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you guys so much.
23:00
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
23:00
[SPEAKER_05]: Thanks, Taylor.
23:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.
23:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.
23:03
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, we're going to keep this rolling.
23:05
[SPEAKER_05]: He's been waiting in the green room a little while.
23:07
[SPEAKER_05]: I like the punctuality out of our next guest.
23:10
[SPEAKER_05]: We'll bring him on.
23:11
[SPEAKER_05]: He is from Windy City, Gridiron, as well.
23:15
[SPEAKER_05]: Mr. Eric, Der Walker, Eric, get the drink ready.
23:19
[SPEAKER_05]: You're coming on stage.
23:21
[SPEAKER_05]: How you doing tonight, sir?
23:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm doing spectacular tonight, gentlemen.
23:26
[SPEAKER_05]: No, what do you got there?
23:28
[SPEAKER_02]: We got a two-shirt Pilsner from all the way in Nuremberg, Germany.
23:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my God.
23:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I am still like him up tonight.
23:35
[SPEAKER_02]: A tall boy, a German beer on a summer night, and for a month away from Octoberfest, so quick news or not news, fact, but real fact check.
23:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Octoberfest starts in August for those that don't know.
23:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm getting ahead, I had to start on the game.
23:50
[SPEAKER_05]: I love it.
23:51
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like three quarters German.
23:53
[SPEAKER_05]: So I appreciate that.
23:54
[SPEAKER_05]: Cheers, sir.
23:56
[SPEAKER_05]: Cheers.
23:57
[SPEAKER_08]: Let me let me show you my reveal.
23:59
[SPEAKER_08]: So I ended up going with this one.
24:01
[SPEAKER_08]: ECD and this is inspired by you.
24:04
[SPEAKER_08]: We have your Scotchail.
24:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh.
24:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
24:07
[SPEAKER_08]: The heavier.
24:09
[SPEAKER_08]: is because of what we noticed that you pointed out in the weight enhancements from our defensive linemen.
24:17
[SPEAKER_08]: So I'm excited to hear you chop it up with us, man.
24:21
[SPEAKER_08]: Thanks for joining us.
24:22
[SPEAKER_08]: And let's get right into it.
24:23
[SPEAKER_08]: So what positional battle ECD are you most excited about?
24:31
[SPEAKER_02]: See, in terms of most excited about, I know people are going to scream like, he's going to talk about left tackle and being on Aussie Trapilla, bandwagon, which I firmly am, no shame in that.
24:39
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think that's also kind of the low hanging fruit because that's the one big, big battle everyone's going to watch is left tackle.
24:46
[SPEAKER_02]: So really, I'm going to look at what's going on in the defensive line.
24:49
[SPEAKER_02]: And we're going to look at how the defensive tackle is going to get their reps all sorted because you have a greedy Jarrett two time pro bull or from the Atlanta Falcons coming by.
24:59
[SPEAKER_02]: And all these defensive linemen gain a lot of weight.
25:02
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's going to be a much bigger group of front this year.
25:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm personally excited to see Gervandex, your senior competing at both the one technique shade and a three technique with Andrew Billings, Shemar Turner coming into the equation.
25:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a little, if you're about the other defensive and position that Jason from on test sweat, I mean, you got dialed to aim, but it was going to have his line share of that rep.
25:28
[SPEAKER_02]: The past rusher is behind Montes, sweat, and diode anymore, big unknown.
25:33
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I wouldn't say I'm excited to see that until they add another veteran.
25:37
[SPEAKER_02]: So in terms of excitement, I cannot wait to see what happens at defense attack because these are going to be some big dudes.
25:43
[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to be competing to be a completely disruptive force of the middle that we didn't see enough of last year.
25:51
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, Ryan, I don't know if you saw that, but Billings is up to three, forty.
25:56
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
25:57
[SPEAKER_08]: And, and, and Dex is, is pushing almost three, thirty.
26:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
26:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
26:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Three, twenty six for a big Dex.
26:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually think he's, he looks at three, thirty.
26:07
[SPEAKER_02]: I've seen him play a Florida.
26:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I saw him present himself in the media.
26:11
[SPEAKER_02]: He's just, whoa, he got.
26:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
26:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Freak win.
26:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Good win.
26:15
[SPEAKER_08]: Good way for sure.
26:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Good way.
26:16
[SPEAKER_02]: So at least three, twenty, eight, three, thirty.
26:18
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's not even the biggest defense of Lyme.
26:20
[SPEAKER_02]: The biggest defense of Lyme is John on the four to three, forty six.
26:24
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
26:25
[SPEAKER_02]: So they got some, they got some big ol' heffers that I absolutely love in the middle of that defense now.
26:31
[SPEAKER_05]: We're not quite there, but wait.
26:33
[SPEAKER_05]: Not quite there, but we're almost getting to Washington and trailer back in the early two thousands, right?
26:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
26:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Bring it back, man.
26:38
[SPEAKER_02]: You gotta run it back.
26:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Bring the big boys.
26:41
[SPEAKER_08]: So, all right, Eric, what about one player on offense that you're most interested to watch this training camp?
26:51
[SPEAKER_02]: So if I think Taylor said she took a little bit about Rochon Johnson and how he's going to be given that free opportunity to get a big load on the offense because they came away with very little to know additions in the running back rotation.
27:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Kyle Monaguy is the one player they brought in that I think will factor in.
27:10
[SPEAKER_02]: So someone I'm really excited to see finally is Luther Burden the third this receiver who
27:17
[SPEAKER_02]: legitimately was a first-round pick that fell to the bears at the very night overall.
27:22
[SPEAKER_02]: We haven't seen him yet.
27:23
[SPEAKER_02]: He was held out today due to mysterious reasons that I don't know.
27:26
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know they got revealed yet, but he is just such a lightning bolt in a bottle when to get him the ball, both as a pump returner and as a receiver.
27:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I really want to see him get some action early on.
27:41
[SPEAKER_02]: see where he fits in with this receiving core and just find ways to get him the football.
27:46
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got him, you've got Colson, Lovelin, you've got Colcomet, you've of course got Roman Dunzy, DJ Moore, find a way to get Luther Burton the third the football and it's going to be a fun time on offense.
28:01
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I don't know if you guys have heard, I'm sure you have a lot of people are speculating that because of his ability with the ball in his hands, that we're going to see him in the backfield some, with all those weapons out wide, Ben Johnson getting creative and in a lot of carries.
28:16
[SPEAKER_08]: I would love to see that too, but yeah, first got to kick that mysterious whatever it is and get on the field.
28:23
[SPEAKER_08]: What about defense for you?
28:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see, I'm a big advantage for senior fan, dating back to when you went to Florida.
28:30
[SPEAKER_02]: He started off so hot last year, four sacks of five games.
28:33
[SPEAKER_02]: He dealt with the knee injury all last year with a lot of people don't know.
28:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And he just after that fifth week really wasn't able to get into that rhythm, we saw, then Andrew Billings went down, so we'll come on, had a man both the shade, the one tech, end of three tech.
28:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it was a big workload for a guy coming into a second year re-learning the defensive tackle position.
28:54
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm excited to see what he does now with a whole new look.
28:58
[SPEAKER_02]: You got a legendary defensive lineman coach and Bill Johnson that's going to really supervise the whole development of the defensive line.
29:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I really want to see where he's at this year.
29:06
[SPEAKER_02]: This is your three at the big year for Govondex or senior.
29:10
[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to play alongside, ready, Jared.
29:12
[SPEAKER_02]: And then another player really cannot wait to see on defense.
29:15
[SPEAKER_02]: His collar Gordon gets a big contract.
29:18
[SPEAKER_02]: We've already been told by Dennis out.
29:20
[SPEAKER_02]: We will see collar Gordon, not just that nickel.
29:22
[SPEAKER_02]: We will see him in the boundary corner.
29:24
[SPEAKER_02]: We may also see him at safety.
29:26
[SPEAKER_08]: Right.
29:27
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to see Collarman everywhere in that secondary.
29:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I won't be surprised.
29:33
[SPEAKER_02]: We does get a long look at safety because you look at what happens next year.
29:37
[SPEAKER_02]: But you're Juan Brister and kind of came and buyer the third on the last year of their respective deals.
29:44
[SPEAKER_02]: So you may see a long look at Collar Gordon playing safety.
29:48
[SPEAKER_02]: You may also depending on what's going on with Jalen Johnson or what happens with Tyrex Stevenson.
29:53
[SPEAKER_02]: You may see Collar Gordon getting a little bit of a long lead at the boundary corner.
29:58
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's going to play everywhere in that secondary.
30:01
[SPEAKER_02]: And for Dennis Allen to have him in that secondary locked up for the next few years, I really want to see what his plans are for Collar Gordon.
30:10
[SPEAKER_02]: We know he has big plans for Jacqueline Vrisker.
30:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's say we just got for Collar Gordon.
30:15
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I'm with you.
30:16
[SPEAKER_08]: That's actually my answer Ryan.
30:18
[SPEAKER_08]: I don't know if you got the answer that one.
30:20
[SPEAKER_08]: We'll play on defense he'll be watching.
30:22
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, I could cheat and go off of my answer the first question and say to Ralph Smith, because
30:28
[SPEAKER_05]: I will say that one of my answers I was toying with for your last one about, you know, bold prediction is I do think Terrell Smith is going to overtake Tyrex.
30:37
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, Stevenson, maybe even by week one.
30:39
[SPEAKER_05]: We'll see.
30:41
[SPEAKER_05]: But I'm not going to go there.
30:42
[SPEAKER_05]: And you know, there's other names like Grady Jarrett.
30:44
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm really fascinated to see how he changes this D line helps out the past or the the run stopping, which was
30:52
[SPEAKER_05]: sorely missing last year.
30:54
[SPEAKER_05]: But you know what, I've been doing this ever since last year on the show, Brian.
30:58
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to keep standing for Austin Booker because I think I think Austin Booker can be a really good player in this league.
31:05
[SPEAKER_05]: I think, you know, with the improvements, hopefully to the interior of the defensive line with Montez Sweat.
31:11
[SPEAKER_05]: Hopefully returning to form, you know, we talked about it here, Eric, you mentioned the unknown on the other side of Romantic sweat.
31:18
[SPEAKER_05]: I think Austin Booker steps up.
31:20
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, they got dial over there too, but I think Austin Booker has a really good, uh, second year in the league, and I'm really looking forward to seeing if he can step up his game.
31:29
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, remember our, you know, our Super Bowl season, you know, six, we had that third DN that really was a key part in Mark Anderson.
31:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
31:37
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
31:38
[SPEAKER_08]: And so, and, you know, I haven't seen that the, the arsenal at a booker, but he does have a similar opportunity ahead of him.
31:45
[SPEAKER_08]: I'd love to see that.
31:46
[SPEAKER_08]: All right, Eric, before you get going, what bold predictions or prediction singular, do you have for this year?
31:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm, I mean, again, the fourth thousand yard mark is, it's again, to me that's an expectation.
32:01
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not even a bull prediction.
32:02
[SPEAKER_02]: It's an expectation.
32:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Break the fourth thousand yard barrier.
32:05
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got seventeen games to do it.
32:07
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got a loaded offense.
32:09
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got a very creative play caller and a whole rebuild offensive line.
32:13
[SPEAKER_02]: So my bull prediction is
32:15
[SPEAKER_02]: by the end of the season, the Chicago Bears will be ranked in the top ten in point scored and or totally arts.
32:27
[SPEAKER_05]: Wow.
32:27
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
32:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Ben Johnson's been ranked number one the last three years.
32:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
32:32
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't expect to be number one this year in a new offense, new players, but to expect them in the top ten with that rebuild offensive line,
32:41
[SPEAKER_02]: you know, Joe Tuney, Jonah Jackson, Proble Guards, Drew Dalman, Proble Calibur Center, DJ Moore, Roma Dune Z, Proble Townsverse Seaver, and then you got a young quarterback in Caleb Williams, the Titan group between Colson, Lovelin, and Cole Comet, probably the best skilled group on paper.
33:01
[SPEAKER_02]: The bears have had a long time.
33:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you mentioned, Brian, probably the best interior offensive line, the Chicago Bears have had probably since,
33:09
[SPEAKER_02]: You could say, two thousand six, but a little bit more closer.
33:12
[SPEAKER_02]: You could also say, two thousand six, teen.
33:14
[SPEAKER_02]: When you had Josh sitting, Kyle Long, and a young Cody White here at Center.
33:20
[SPEAKER_02]: If I'm not mistaken, that year two.
33:23
[SPEAKER_02]: That's probably the best interior of the bears have had since, or at least in comparison closely to what we have now.
33:28
[SPEAKER_02]: So top ten, total yards and or point scored.
33:33
[SPEAKER_05]: I like it.
33:35
[SPEAKER_05]: Eric, thank you, man.
33:36
[SPEAKER_05]: Appreciate you jumping out of with us tonight.
33:38
[SPEAKER_05]: Pack show, but always good to have new guests on him.
33:41
[SPEAKER_05]: Hopefully we can get you back at some point during the season.
33:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
33:44
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see you there.
33:46
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
33:47
[SPEAKER_05]: That is Eric D'Orwalker.
33:49
[SPEAKER_05]: You can find his stuff over at Windy City Gridiron, of course.
33:54
[SPEAKER_05]: And we got another guest joining us now.
33:57
[SPEAKER_05]: Also from Windy City Gridiron, he is none other than Josh Sunderbrook.
34:02
[SPEAKER_05]: Josh, welcome to the show tonight.
34:04
[SPEAKER_05]: Sir, how you doing?
34:05
[SPEAKER_04]: Doing great.
34:06
[SPEAKER_04]: How are you doing?
34:07
[SPEAKER_05]: Doing very well.
34:08
[SPEAKER_05]: Football season is upon us.
34:09
[SPEAKER_05]: We got a beer in hand.
34:10
[SPEAKER_05]: You have anything in the glass tonight?
34:13
[SPEAKER_04]: Got some whiskey, that's an Abarler, twelve year.
34:16
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
34:18
[SPEAKER_04]: Nice.
34:19
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't drink beer, but I love whiskey.
34:22
[SPEAKER_05]: So.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm trying to get into whiskey more and more, so I appreciate that.
34:26
[SPEAKER_05]: That's nice.
34:27
[SPEAKER_04]: If you want some suggestions on where to start.
34:31
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
34:31
[SPEAKER_04]: I'd rather as a beer guy, and I'm trying to draw him over to the west side.
34:36
[SPEAKER_05]: Come to the dark side.
34:37
[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.
34:38
[SPEAKER_05]: Very nice.
34:39
[SPEAKER_05]: Brian hit him with the questions, sir.
34:42
[SPEAKER_08]: Yes, Josh.
34:42
[SPEAKER_08]: So you've had some time to to mall this over.
34:46
[SPEAKER_08]: So you go to hear your your answers.
34:48
[SPEAKER_08]: We've had some good back and forth over over the years, but what would you say is the one position battle that you're most looking forward to watching pan out this training camp left tackle.
35:04
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, Ryan Poles has drafted enough hints of tackle every year.
35:07
[SPEAKER_04]: He's been GM.
35:09
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, he got lucky or had what he, or he found something in Braxton Jones, Darnell Wright, arguably is swinging a miss with, with Amagaji.
35:18
[SPEAKER_04]: And then you've got, I'm Ozzy, who I actually love.
35:23
[SPEAKER_04]: I think he's a clear left tackle.
35:24
[SPEAKER_04]: I have no idea what people thought.
35:26
[SPEAKER_04]: He projected his right tackle.
35:28
[SPEAKER_04]: I think he's obviously suits be a left tackle in the NFL.
35:32
[SPEAKER_04]: And so I think they haven't
35:34
[SPEAKER_04]: three contenders for left tackle is just nice for a shorter version.
35:41
[SPEAKER_04]: And you know, I would say that there's a realistic scenario where Chicago has one and a half starters of left tackle, where there's a guy who's a clear starter, there's a guy who's a swing, you can trade later on if some other team gets desperate, or you actually just have Chicago cons up here here.
36:00
[SPEAKER_04]: depth on the offensive line for change.
36:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, Brian, this is allowed.
36:05
[SPEAKER_04]: I checked the rules.
36:06
[SPEAKER_04]: There's nothing for beating the bears from having depth.
36:12
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm really excited about that.
36:13
[SPEAKER_04]: First of all, I love offensive line play.
36:15
[SPEAKER_04]: It's one of my favorite parts of football anyway.
36:18
[SPEAKER_04]: But just to actually be optimistic that the bears are going to have a real competition for such an important position and football is exciting.
36:27
[SPEAKER_04]: It's going to be fun.
36:29
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, no, absolutely.
36:30
[SPEAKER_08]: Absolutely.
36:31
[SPEAKER_08]: And, and, you know, watching the battle between the defensive linemen as well, especially the new additions.
36:38
[SPEAKER_08]: and a reinvigorated and healthy Montez sweat, you know, especially the interior.
36:43
[SPEAKER_08]: I don't know if you heard that earlier as when I'm looking forward to as the interior, but to your point, you know, in order to play as an offensive line, you need to be one unit.
36:52
[SPEAKER_08]: So how these guys play with Tony next to him and, you know, it's gonna be fascinating for sure.
36:59
[SPEAKER_08]: Okay, so aside from left tackle, what player on offense are you most gonna be keyed in on?
37:07
[SPEAKER_04]: coast and loved one.
37:09
[SPEAKER_04]: He was my highest graded offensive skills player in the strapped.
37:14
[SPEAKER_04]: I had him just above genty and Warren.
37:18
[SPEAKER_04]: I actually put him out there as a dark horse for the bears in March and people told me that I was full of it on people told me that if people were like, what are you talking about?
37:28
[SPEAKER_04]: I like what he brings to the game.
37:30
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think he's a commit type.
37:33
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that he is exactly what a Ben Johnson offense needs.
37:38
[SPEAKER_04]: Understand, I grew up on Iowa football.
37:40
[SPEAKER_04]: Like I grew up on Iowa and Nebraska football on the eighties and nineties.
37:44
[SPEAKER_04]: And so there's a way that Colston Lovelin plays the game that speaks to my football soul, so to speak.
37:51
[SPEAKER_04]: Like the dude understands part of his job is making sure the guy with the rock gets through.
37:56
[SPEAKER_04]: There, there was some knocks on his blocking, but it's almost on his past blocking on his run blocking.
38:00
[SPEAKER_04]: The kids got game already and he's only twenty.
38:04
[SPEAKER_04]: So I really want to see Carlston, Loveland, come along.
38:07
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that he's a weapon in the past game.
38:10
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that he's going to provide some extra punch in the running game.
38:14
[SPEAKER_04]: And I just, I know Ryan Paul says this.
38:18
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel terrible quoting Ryan Paul, because it sounds like I'm a shell for him, but he plays football the right way.
38:23
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, Loveland clearly wants his team to move the rock.
38:28
[SPEAKER_04]: And if he is involved in the play, if he's actually like catching great.
38:33
[SPEAKER_04]: But if his job is to buy somebody else a quarter of a second, he is everybody's sold on that.
38:39
[SPEAKER_04]: And so I really want to see that in his twenty.
38:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
38:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I really want to see his journey.
38:44
[SPEAKER_04]: And I mean, he doesn't grow into his body yet.
38:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
38:48
[SPEAKER_04]: That's where he's probably got another ten, fifteen pounds to fill in without losing any agility.
38:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
38:55
[SPEAKER_04]: So I really want to see that journey.
38:57
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
38:57
[SPEAKER_05]: Josh, I kind of lit up when you said you grew up on Iowa football and I know Brian noticed as well.
39:01
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm an Iowa and also grew up on Iowa football.
39:05
[SPEAKER_05]: And a little, yeah, early nineties, probably when I started watching them too.
39:09
[SPEAKER_05]: So I know exactly exactly what you're saying.
39:12
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, exactly.
39:13
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I was really excited to hear how far along he was health wise and going to be able to start camp sooner than later.
39:19
[SPEAKER_08]: And so yeah, I'm there with you.
39:21
[SPEAKER_08]: I think it's going to be super exciting.
39:23
[SPEAKER_08]: How about on defense?
39:25
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm torn because if you just go off personality, Schermarch winner, totally, totally won me over with his press conference.
39:36
[SPEAKER_04]: Like the kid is just infectious.
39:38
[SPEAKER_04]: He is just completely infectious.
39:42
[SPEAKER_04]: in the energy he brings.
39:46
[SPEAKER_04]: But if you're just talking about guy who I think is going to need to step up and pay dividends in Dennis Allen's defense, it's going to be Kyler Gordon.
39:57
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I did the math and Kyler Gordon is actually slightly ahead of schedule for the production.
40:04
[SPEAKER_04]: He gives a defense if he were a first round draft pick.
40:08
[SPEAKER_04]: And he's the second round draft pick.
40:10
[SPEAKER_04]: It says something that when people were trying to sell people that the today there and wasn't fact going to be.
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[SPEAKER_04]: worthy of a first round pick that comp people came up with was Kyler Gordon for him.
40:22
[SPEAKER_04]: So if you think about that, this is a, this is a dude who is drafted in the second round, who is being used as a justification for why somebody should be worthy of going in the first round.
40:34
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, but I think there's, and it's kind of take that for granted.
40:37
[SPEAKER_08]: Let me plug if you have not read any of Josh's pieces on when he city gridiron.
40:42
[SPEAKER_08]: They are, they are must reads.
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[SPEAKER_08]: He goes into the deep dive research and has all the data to back this up.
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[SPEAKER_08]: So, um, he's got a great point.
40:50
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, he's the first round pick, first round talent all the way.
40:54
[SPEAKER_08]: And, and the, the gesture jack of all trades and how Allen's going to, going to use him is, is going to be fascinating for sure.
41:02
[SPEAKER_04]: When Dennis Allen's defense was shutting down Tom Brady and Tampa Bay, he was doing it with rotating six different defensive backs through the back field.
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[SPEAKER_04]: At times he had four corners on the field.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And so you're going to need a Kyler Gordon type out there and conveniently for Dennis Allen.
41:26
[SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't have to be a Kyler Gordon type.
41:28
[SPEAKER_04]: It can be Kyler Gordon himself.
41:31
[SPEAKER_04]: And so, again, I love Shmar Turner's personality.
41:34
[SPEAKER_04]: I think he's going to be great.
41:36
[SPEAKER_04]: But I think sort of integral to Dennis Allen's defense really come along.
41:41
[SPEAKER_04]: It's going to be does Kyler Gordon bring it on and show that here in that contract, right?
41:45
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
41:46
[SPEAKER_08]: No, I'm with you.
41:46
[SPEAKER_08]: Okay.
41:47
[SPEAKER_08]: Let's get bold out here, Josh.
41:49
[SPEAKER_08]: And that's not your thing.
41:50
[SPEAKER_08]: You're calculated.
41:52
[SPEAKER_08]: What is your bold prediction?
41:55
[SPEAKER_04]: You'll go out.
41:55
[SPEAKER_04]: The running game is fine.
41:56
[SPEAKER_04]: The running game is going to be fine.
41:59
[SPEAKER_04]: What does find mean?
42:02
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, the running game is going to do the three things a running game needs to do.
42:06
[SPEAKER_04]: It is going to force defenses to play it honest against the passing attack.
42:14
[SPEAKER_04]: It's going to convert third downs and fourth downs and short yardage situations to keep the ball moving.
42:23
[SPEAKER_04]: And it is going to see to it that when you've got
42:30
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, little Williams out, because you took a bad hit, or when you've got a situation where we just need to bleed the clock, the running game does its job.
42:43
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think it's going to be flashy.
42:45
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, if you were going to be like, are they going to be top, I don't, I'm not going to tell you they're going to be top ten yards, but I think they're going to do their job.
42:52
[SPEAKER_04]: And a playoff team needs to have components that do their job.
42:55
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think this running game,
42:58
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, you're already talked about the rebuilt interior offensive line is going to be huge.
43:04
[SPEAKER_04]: So much of the yards that were left in the dirt last season, we're honestly because the offensive line couldn't get pushed.
43:13
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think it's possible.
43:16
[SPEAKER_04]: to say enough bad things about the way ever fluorescent company ran the offense.
43:20
[SPEAKER_04]: Like I just I could start now and we and we'd already be past open the opening game for the season before I ran out of things to complain.
43:29
[SPEAKER_05]: We'd like a whole lot of whiskey along the way.
43:30
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I just had me more than the one bottle I have by the way.
43:35
[SPEAKER_04]: But I do think that people were right off the running the running game and I would have loved if they would have picked up, you know.
43:43
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, if they would have picked somebody up early on, but I do think that the running basket, the running game is going to get the job done.
43:50
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that there's enough quality there to move the ball and the ball needs to be moved.
43:59
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think that Ben Johnson is going to cover up a lot of works.
44:04
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that the rebuild offensive line, and I've already plugged, plug, love lens.
44:09
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to say this here, like a good tight end.
44:12
[SPEAKER_04]: can make a running game really pretty in a hurry, right?
44:18
[SPEAKER_04]: And so I think that all of that is gonna see to it that
44:24
[SPEAKER_04]: the fear that the running back in the running game is just not there.
44:28
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not going to be what it would have been, you know, if there would have been one of those round one round two talents taken fair.
44:34
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
44:35
[SPEAKER_04]: But the ball is going to move.
44:36
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
44:36
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
44:37
[SPEAKER_05]: Love it.
44:38
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
44:39
[SPEAKER_05]: Good stuff.
44:40
[SPEAKER_05]: Great to have you, Josh.
44:41
[SPEAKER_04]: Awesome.
44:42
[SPEAKER_04]: You're talking to you guys.
44:43
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
44:43
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you very much.
44:44
[SPEAKER_05]: Bring on later this season and make it bears over whiskey.
44:48
[SPEAKER_05]: We'll see.
44:49
[SPEAKER_05]: See what happens.
44:51
[SPEAKER_05]: There's over bourbon.
44:52
[SPEAKER_05]: It comes off the tongue a little better.
44:54
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, cheers.
44:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Cool guys.
44:59
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
45:00
[SPEAKER_05]: We got a blind up.
45:01
[SPEAKER_05]: We got another guest right here on on the line.
45:04
[SPEAKER_05]: She is one of the newest writers.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I believe to Witty City.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Grid iron.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You can check out all of her work over there.
45:10
[SPEAKER_05]: You can follow her on Twitter at the Chicago Sarah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: She is Sarah Denickelow.
45:16
[SPEAKER_05]: Sarah.
45:17
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry if I bought you your name.
45:18
[SPEAKER_05]: Welcome to the show tonight.
45:19
[SPEAKER_01]: No, you actually got my name right.
45:22
[SPEAKER_01]: So usually play people pronounce it wrong.
45:25
[SPEAKER_01]: So.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
45:26
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
45:26
[SPEAKER_05]: Nice.
45:27
[SPEAKER_05]: Are you drinking tonight with us?
45:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
45:29
[SPEAKER_01]: So I have myself a glass of wine, misgato.
45:32
[SPEAKER_01]: So.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Nice.
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[SPEAKER_08]: It's like yours.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Cheers.
45:36
[SPEAKER_08]: Cheers.
45:37
[SPEAKER_08]: Cheers.
45:37
[SPEAKER_08]: You're a good guy.
45:38
[SPEAKER_08]: He jersey, right?
45:40
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a Kyler Gordon jersey.
45:42
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, love it.
45:42
[SPEAKER_08]: It's nice, better.
45:44
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, he's he's been talked about a good bit already tonight.
45:47
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I actually wanted it and give away.
45:51
[SPEAKER_01]: So that was really awesome.
45:52
[SPEAKER_08]: What a nice, awesome.
45:55
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, so so you've heard a couple of answers so far.
45:58
[SPEAKER_08]: But curious to hear your thoughts and welcome to the team, by the way, really excited to have you in the perspective you bring.
46:05
[SPEAKER_08]: And yeah, if you I'd love for a little intro on you know to the audience for our newest on our newest writers and then which position battle would you say your your most eager to pay attention to this training camp?
46:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, thanks so much.
46:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm super excited to be a part of the team and to be here today.
46:26
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I am.
46:28
[SPEAKER_01]: My name is Sarah.
46:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I
46:31
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, started getting involved in the Bears community through Twitter, like the past couple years.
46:38
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, heard there was an opening for the, you know, for a writing position and, you know, just shot my shot and really excited to have the opportunity to, you know, write for Wendy City, Gerdairen.
46:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I grew up in Chicago.
46:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I live on the East Coast now, but yeah, and I, you know, really,
47:01
[SPEAKER_01]: look forward to the upcoming season.
47:03
[SPEAKER_01]: And then as for the top position battle, I'm sure a lot of people have already said this, but the obviously the left tackle starting position, I'm definitely interested to see what Trapilo can do and how all of that plays out this season.
47:25
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, absolutely.
47:26
[SPEAKER_08]: That's a, that's a good one for sure.
47:27
[SPEAKER_08]: You know, we need some good offensive line play in Chicago.
47:31
[SPEAKER_08]: Okay, so staying on offense, what player aside from left tackle, are you kind of going to be focused on the most as training camp?
47:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I, for my response for this one, I was thinking, Kyle, Munga, Munga, I, I, I probably butcher that.
47:49
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm looking for Rutgers.
47:51
[SPEAKER_08]: That's all we get.
47:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, put up.
47:53
[SPEAKER_01]: He, you know, obviously he fell to the, you know, lit one of the later rounds.
47:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't like super happy that the bears took that long to address the position, you know, with hoping they were going to address that sooner.
48:07
[SPEAKER_01]: But obviously, you know, the.
48:09
[SPEAKER_01]: the running backs they were trying to keep getting taken right before them.
48:15
[SPEAKER_01]: But after we drafted him, I started seeing a bunch of his highlights coming out and they looked really promising.
48:25
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if our offensive line is, you know, as good as it is on paper on the field this season, I think that, you know, the running back position is just one that we can keep our eye on and definitely interested to see what he can do.
48:40
[SPEAKER_08]: So, you know, love it.
48:42
[SPEAKER_08]: Love it.
48:42
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, if you can do that past blocking and you know, breaks and tackles make some plays and preseason.
48:49
[SPEAKER_08]: That definitely would give me some insurance as well.
48:52
[SPEAKER_08]: Okay, how about defense for you?
48:54
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I'm a little biased, but Kyler Gordon, you know, obviously Dennis Allen has made, you know, some comments throughout the off season, just about that, you know, how about he's a valuable asset to our defense, you know, calling him like an outstanding, you know, calling him outstanding, his talent and obviously his versatility as well.
49:16
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I
49:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I loved him last season and I can't wait to see more of him this season and really hope that he becomes a centerpiece for our defense.
49:27
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, also, you know, potentially seeing him in a different position, you know, you know, coming, competing at outside corner or, you know, even safety.
49:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I know that there has been some chatter about that.
49:40
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, I'm really, really excited to see what he can do this season.
49:46
[SPEAKER_08]: Same, that's been a common theme that tonight is how Dennis sounds going to deploy the versatile Kyler Spiderman.
49:53
[SPEAKER_08]: Okay, here's your chance.
49:56
[SPEAKER_08]: First public, bold prediction, Sarah, which direction you're going to go?
50:03
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, I'm not going to go too bold here.
50:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to, you know, be like, oh, we're, you know, we're making the playoffs this year because I was kind of doing that last off season and then ended up being really disappointed.
50:15
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I'm sure I'm not alone in that, but we did it here, too.
50:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
50:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I just remember feeling like so so depressed like not even in exaggeration I was just like how did we get here like this off you know this past off season looked so promising and it just did not
50:42
[SPEAKER_01]: play out the way we wanted.
50:43
[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, so my bold prediction is that the team is just going to commit less, you know, pre pre snap penalties.
50:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that if we're able to do that, that will, you know, go a long way just because
50:58
[SPEAKER_01]: It, you know, that there would be, you know, we would get the plague, the ball going, and like get some momentum building up, and then it would be like boom, pre-snap penalty, and then all that momentum, we just build up.
51:09
[SPEAKER_09]: For sure.
51:09
[SPEAKER_01]: It's gone.
51:10
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I think that especially with Caleb, you know, going into his second year, I think that we really need to, you know, really capitalize on that, you know, on that momentum, because I think that's when he really gets in his rhythm.
51:29
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, fully agree.
51:30
[SPEAKER_08]: And it did a lot to just slow down and spend the progression last year for sure.
51:37
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
51:39
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, no, I love to see it.
51:40
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it was awesome.
51:42
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, Sarah, thank you.
51:43
[SPEAKER_08]: Chicago, Sarah, I love, I love the handle by the way.
51:46
[SPEAKER_08]: Thank you so much.
51:47
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, thank you for joining us.
51:49
[SPEAKER_08]: Great to have you on the team.
51:50
[SPEAKER_08]: Look forward to seeing more of your stuff out there.
51:53
[SPEAKER_08]: Everybody be sure to catch her on Wendy City Gridiron and Twitter as well.
51:56
[SPEAKER_08]: Ryan, what do you guys think?
51:57
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I want to say, I'd recommend checking out Sarah's first piece.
52:00
[SPEAKER_05]: She wrote on Wendy City Gridiron.
52:01
[SPEAKER_05]: It's all about becoming a fan.
52:03
[SPEAKER_05]: I really enjoyed that column a lot, Sarah.
52:05
[SPEAKER_05]: Really interesting, you know, having the bears games on in your
52:08
[SPEAKER_05]: your family gatherings growing up and then going to your first bears game.
52:11
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
52:12
[SPEAKER_05]: Very well written.
52:14
[SPEAKER_05]: Really enjoy that.
52:14
[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, check that out.
52:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate that.
52:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it's definitely like I said in the piece, you know, it thinking back all those years ago, if I knew I would be here, like I wouldn't believe it if you told me that.
52:27
[SPEAKER_01]: So
52:29
[SPEAKER_05]: Awesome.
52:29
[SPEAKER_05]: We're happy to have you.
52:30
[SPEAKER_05]: This has been great.
52:31
[SPEAKER_05]: I hope we can get you on the program for a full episode at some point.
52:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
52:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks so much for having me and yeah, I hope on the rest of the episode goes well.
52:42
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
52:42
[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you so much.
52:43
[SPEAKER_05]: Enjoy your wine.
52:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll talk too much.
52:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Cheers.
52:47
[SPEAKER_05]: Cheers.
52:48
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
52:49
[SPEAKER_05]: Brian, get on your best behavior.
52:52
[SPEAKER_05]: We got the boss man coming in here.
52:54
[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, but you're sure it up.
52:56
[SPEAKER_05]: Look nice and tidy.
52:57
[SPEAKER_05]: We don't want to get kicked off the air.
53:00
[SPEAKER_05]: Here he is, Lester will phonged you and you're joining this show, the boss man.
53:03
[SPEAKER_05]: What's up guys?
53:05
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, yes, what he got.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I got a arrogant bastard ale.
53:10
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, nice.
53:12
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm probably not going to like this.
53:13
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm at a beer guy.
53:14
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, I had ideas.
53:16
[SPEAKER_07]: I commit to the bit every time I want to show, I got to do something.
53:19
[SPEAKER_07]: Let's see what is going on here.
53:21
[SPEAKER_07]: Have you guys had this before?
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[SPEAKER_07]: I have.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
53:24
[SPEAKER_08]: It's been a good time.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Isn't it potent?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yes, seven point two percent or something?
53:28
[SPEAKER_07]: Holy shit, I can tell her, oh my bed.
53:30
[SPEAKER_07]: You're already dropping a band.
53:32
[SPEAKER_07]: Look at me.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm the one who thought, yes, seven point two.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That's a good memory.
53:35
[SPEAKER_07]: Here we go.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Cheers.
53:36
[SPEAKER_08]: Cheers.
53:37
[SPEAKER_08]: Hey, we don't, we don't chug them.
53:39
[SPEAKER_08]: We don't chug them on the show.
53:40
[SPEAKER_07]: We're going to back.
53:41
[SPEAKER_07]: I just have to get that out of the way.
53:43
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
53:44
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's uh...
53:46
[SPEAKER_05]: That was one of the, one of the first craft beers that I was really seeking out looking for at the beer store.
53:51
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, this is a long time ago, but... Isn't it like a porter?
53:54
[SPEAKER_08]: Like, what is that?
53:55
[SPEAKER_08]: It's an ale.
53:56
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like a strong ale.
53:58
[SPEAKER_05]: It's dark colored, though.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The parkboard up.
53:59
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah.
53:59
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's okay.
54:17
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, you said, seven point two percent.
54:19
[SPEAKER_07]: So this will do the trick because I really really drink.
54:22
[SPEAKER_07]: Are you a whiskey guy like Josh?
54:25
[SPEAKER_07]: I just don't drink that.
54:26
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, okay.
54:26
[SPEAKER_07]: It's not like I'm against it.
54:27
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
54:29
[SPEAKER_07]: I just don't want you know, for whatever reason I got kids, so like something I think it.
54:33
[SPEAKER_07]: I got to be responsible, so I just don't bother.
54:37
[SPEAKER_07]: When everyone comes over our house, they all drink.
54:40
[SPEAKER_07]: So I'm like, I should probably be the responsible one.
54:44
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, it's suited for our boss, man.
54:47
[SPEAKER_08]: I wouldn't take your time.
54:48
[SPEAKER_08]: So thank you.
54:50
[SPEAKER_08]: And if we ever get together, I'll hold you to that responsible friend role.
54:57
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, man, excited to have you on curious to hear your thoughts on these two.
55:00
[SPEAKER_08]: So which position battle for you?
55:03
[SPEAKER_08]: Are you most looking looking forward to watching this training camp?
55:07
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sure this got a lot of buzz from people.
55:09
[SPEAKER_07]: I heard Sarah's answer.
55:10
[SPEAKER_07]: It's it's left tackle.
55:13
[SPEAKER_07]: I love the online as it is and just, you know, I love Braxton Jones.
55:17
[SPEAKER_07]: I think he's a very good football player.
55:20
[SPEAKER_07]: He's got his limitations, right?
55:21
[SPEAKER_07]: But he understands his limitations.
55:23
[SPEAKER_07]: He is going to get paid big money next off season.
55:26
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
55:26
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm just not charging to be in Chicago.
55:28
[SPEAKER_07]: So I'm curious how that shapes up.
55:30
[SPEAKER_07]: And I wasn't expecting him to be back for training camp.
55:33
[SPEAKER_07]: But there he is.
55:34
[SPEAKER_07]: Day one out there ramping up.
55:37
[SPEAKER_07]: He's in there with the first team I saw today.
55:40
[SPEAKER_07]: But once they did go to some some other stuff and knew it's from all eleven on eleven.
55:44
[SPEAKER_07]: It was Aussie with in the first team rep.
55:46
[SPEAKER_07]: So it's going to be exciting to watch.
55:48
[SPEAKER_07]: And I'm not as down on Karan Amagaji as some fans are because last year he never should have saw the field, right?
55:55
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, never should have happened.
55:57
[SPEAKER_07]: So I'm curious how left tackle shapes up.
56:00
[SPEAKER_07]: I think it'll be braxton, but all things be equal.
56:04
[SPEAKER_07]: You got to go to the rookie.
56:07
[SPEAKER_08]: Okay, so he got right to Chuck the beer and got right to his bowl for makes me love it.
56:12
[SPEAKER_08]: Same time for our special guests.
56:16
[SPEAKER_08]: All right, so obviously on offense, you're watching those linemen.
56:19
[SPEAKER_08]: What about on defense?
56:21
[SPEAKER_08]: Who's one player?
56:21
[SPEAKER_08]: You're going to be keen to watch over there.
56:26
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm really interested to see how Dennis Allen deploys this D-line, right?
56:30
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, I saw some of the stuff he did with the Saints.
56:33
[SPEAKER_07]: He does a lot of creative fronts, which is something flu set.
56:37
[SPEAKER_07]: I think he was allergic to that, right?
56:38
[SPEAKER_07]: Like it was pretty much your defense event, you're the three tech, you're the one tech.
56:43
[SPEAKER_07]: He did nothing really creative, but with Dennis Allen, you know, he'll have these guys all over the place.
56:49
[SPEAKER_07]: because his whole point is he wants to create mismatches.
56:51
[SPEAKER_07]: He wants to scheme guys up for his blitz.
56:53
[SPEAKER_07]: He wants to make the offensive line think they have to block this guy who's sitting in the gap when he's going to stutter and bring the backer behind them.
57:02
[SPEAKER_07]: So Dennis, I'll do some crazy stuff.
57:04
[SPEAKER_07]: So I'm curious how this D-line shakes out.
57:07
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, they just brought in an edge.
57:09
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm not going to say his name because I'm going to butcher it.
57:12
[SPEAKER_07]: But he's more defensive and defensive three defensive four defensive end.
57:18
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm still a little curious about that depth there.
57:19
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, Matt, that's what else he's fine.
57:21
[SPEAKER_07]: Dale is I was going to be okay.
57:24
[SPEAKER_07]: He's Austin Booker ready for a bigger role.
57:25
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm not sure.
57:26
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
57:27
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, that's who Ryan highlighted earlier.
57:28
[SPEAKER_08]: Thanks, fans.
57:31
[SPEAKER_08]: Once you take a picture of Cheney Camp with one of our daughters, you got a fan for life.
57:35
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm biased.
57:36
[SPEAKER_05]: He was so nice to my daughter that I'm Austin Booker all the way.
57:39
[SPEAKER_05]: He's going to have the breakout year.
57:41
[SPEAKER_05]: It's got to be Austin Booker.
57:42
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I'm excited to watch him too.
57:44
[SPEAKER_08]: He's got a prime opportunity.
57:45
[SPEAKER_08]: And we all knew kind of last year, remember, like he was young coming out.
57:48
[SPEAKER_08]: We were kind of getting a red shirt year from him.
57:49
[SPEAKER_08]: So he's got a prime opportunity.
57:51
[SPEAKER_08]: If he could step up, maybe add some weight and a little bit more, you know, skill in his repertoire, I'm excited to see what he could do.
57:59
[SPEAKER_08]: So any bold predictions on your end?
58:03
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, you know, I'm going to go a little bolder than Sarah.
58:06
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, she was kind of kind of chill.
58:07
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, I think they're going to the playoffs.
58:09
[SPEAKER_07]: I think it's because this is a playoff team.
58:11
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, the roster was better last year than five wins.
58:14
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, the coaching staff was a massive, just then worked out and know some issues with, you know, how the offense was deployed there.
58:23
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, Ben Johnson, man.
58:24
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, if he's the guy we all think he is, if Caleb the quarterback we all think he is, this has got to be a playoff team.
58:31
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm not saying they're going to win the NFC North.
58:33
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm not going to win a wild card game, but I think you're one in the Ben Johnson era.
58:38
[SPEAKER_07]: This has got to be a playoff team.
58:41
[SPEAKER_05]: I like it.
58:42
[SPEAKER_05]: Love it.
58:44
[SPEAKER_05]: Are we going to do our bold predictions right now, Brian?
58:46
[SPEAKER_05]: Or do you want to wait?
58:48
[SPEAKER_05]: It's for the end.
58:49
[SPEAKER_07]: You got a couple of guests in the green waiting to jump behind.
58:51
[SPEAKER_07]: All right.
58:52
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, wait.
58:53
[SPEAKER_08]: Wait.
58:55
[SPEAKER_08]: All right.
58:55
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
58:55
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, thanks, Lester.
58:56
[SPEAKER_08]: Appreciate you jumping on.
58:57
[SPEAKER_08]: It's fun.
58:58
[SPEAKER_08]: We're going to have you on more this season for sure.
59:01
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, for sure.
59:01
[SPEAKER_07]: Let me know, guys.
59:02
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm always around.
59:02
[SPEAKER_07]: I'll get a nasty beer and I'll trick it on your show in any time you want.
59:06
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, you feel free to ask for recommendations.
59:09
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, you just go for it.
59:10
[SPEAKER_08]: I love it.
59:11
[SPEAKER_07]: If I can find an old school zebra,
59:14
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I'm good.
59:16
[SPEAKER_07]: They stopped making them.
59:17
[SPEAKER_07]: They came off for like a limited edition.
59:19
[SPEAKER_07]: They're gone again.
59:20
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like a mine.
59:21
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, Zima.
59:22
[SPEAKER_05]: Now that is an incredible reference.
59:24
[SPEAKER_07]: That was my drink bag and I love the Zima, you know?
59:27
[SPEAKER_07]: It's all good.
59:28
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to be in a teenager with people trying to get a hold of those.
59:31
[SPEAKER_07]: They're very, very tasty.
59:33
[SPEAKER_07]: A little shot of grenadine.
59:34
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
59:35
[SPEAKER_07]: And you're good to go.
59:36
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm pretty sure you can still get a sprite at any grocery store.
59:38
[SPEAKER_08]: You're around.
59:41
[SPEAKER_07]: And Zima is not a white cloth.
59:45
[SPEAKER_07]: The flare profiles are completely different.
59:47
[SPEAKER_07]: I'll just throw that out there.
59:48
[SPEAKER_08]: Fair enough.
59:50
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, no judgment on us.
59:52
[SPEAKER_08]: There's no judgment for free zone.
59:53
[SPEAKER_08]: You can go now.
59:54
[SPEAKER_07]: I got our ale today.
59:55
[SPEAKER_07]: So I'm good to arrogant.
59:57
[SPEAKER_05]: Which I get that bottoms up on the arrogant bastard.
1:00:00
[SPEAKER_05]: What a man.
1:00:00
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, it's horrible.
1:00:03
[SPEAKER_08]: You got to finish it though.
1:00:04
[SPEAKER_08]: I am going to finish it.
1:00:05
[SPEAKER_08]: Send a pick on Twitter with you.
1:00:09
[SPEAKER_05]: He's like laying on the ground.
1:00:10
[SPEAKER_05]: Obviously.
1:00:10
[SPEAKER_07]: And beside them, you know, seven point two percent.
1:00:12
[SPEAKER_07]: Forget about it.
1:00:15
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, Lester, we appreciate it.
1:00:16
[SPEAKER_07]: Thanks for joining us.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Have a good rest of the show.
1:00:19
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
1:00:19
[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.
1:00:21
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, I think Brian, we are, we're bringing on these two together.
1:00:25
[SPEAKER_05]: Is that the plan?
1:00:26
[SPEAKER_07]: Yep.
1:00:27
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, I will introduce them one by one.
1:00:29
[SPEAKER_05]: So first of all, for our last segment tonight, we have a well-known host here on Second City Gridiron, who we all admire.
1:00:36
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm very comfortable in saying the host of the Bears Banner podcast, Mr. Bill Zimmerman, Bill, welcome to the show.
1:00:44
[SPEAKER_05]: Speaking of arrogant bastards, how you guys doing?
1:00:48
[SPEAKER_05]: How long have you been sitting on that joke?
1:00:50
[SPEAKER_05]: You just wait.
1:00:50
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, since Lester said the beer.
1:00:53
[SPEAKER_05]: I love it.
1:00:54
[SPEAKER_08]: Were you able to to conjure up anything bill?
1:00:56
[SPEAKER_06]: What are you drinking tonight?
1:00:57
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so I did come up with it with a beverage.
1:01:00
[SPEAKER_06]: So I just got back from vacation.
1:01:01
[SPEAKER_06]: The refrigerator is empty.
1:01:03
[SPEAKER_06]: There's like nothing in it.
1:01:05
[SPEAKER_06]: And, you know, grocery orders coming tomorrow.
1:01:07
[SPEAKER_06]: So I was caught a little off guard not being prepared.
1:01:09
[SPEAKER_06]: So I threw together a little something from the bar, which is it's just it's Fran Jellico and Cham board.
1:01:14
[SPEAKER_06]: If you've never had them together, it's it's fantastic.
1:01:17
[SPEAKER_06]: It's it's it's nutty, but a little sweet.
1:01:19
[SPEAKER_06]: It's probably supposed to be a shot, but, you know, I turned it into a beverage.
1:01:22
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:01:22
[SPEAKER_06]: It's a lot better that way.
1:01:24
[SPEAKER_05]: It's vacation vacation beverage.
1:01:26
[SPEAKER_05]: Nice.
1:01:26
[SPEAKER_05]: This arrogant bastard getting fancy on us tonight.
1:01:28
[SPEAKER_05]: That's right.
1:01:29
[SPEAKER_05]: I love it.
1:01:30
[SPEAKER_05]: I love it.
1:01:32
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, all right.
1:01:33
[SPEAKER_08]: So I guess we almost forgot.
1:01:35
[SPEAKER_08]: We got to show the next guy.
1:01:37
[SPEAKER_05]: Bring him on.
1:01:38
[SPEAKER_05]: This is the second time he has joined us here on Bears over beer since Brian and I took over the program at least.
1:01:43
[SPEAKER_05]: He is from CHGO Bears.
1:01:46
[SPEAKER_05]: None other than Greg Braggs.
1:01:48
[SPEAKER_05]: Junior Braggs.
1:01:49
[SPEAKER_05]: Welcome back to the program.
1:01:51
[SPEAKER_03]: I see your, what did you just say, Bill?
1:01:55
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, by Dranker.
1:01:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:01:57
[SPEAKER_03]: No, Eric and Pastor.
1:01:58
[SPEAKER_03]: What's that?
1:01:59
[SPEAKER_06]: Eric and Pastor.
1:02:00
[SPEAKER_03]: I said, I'll see your arrogant bastard by raising you with the narcissistic bastard.
1:02:06
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, since Brags is here, can I say go Houston Cougars?
1:02:13
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, you can have last year.
1:02:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, thanks.
1:02:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you very much.
1:02:17
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that's low.
1:02:17
[SPEAKER_05]: That's low.
1:02:18
[SPEAKER_05]: The alcohol is good.
1:02:19
[SPEAKER_06]: It's always low when I, when I talk to Brad.
1:02:21
[SPEAKER_06]: I think I'm gonna shop.
1:02:22
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Brags, what do you have in the glass tonight?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Are you drinking with us?
1:02:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'm not, I know this is a beer program, but as you guys know from the last time I was on, I'm a whiskey guy.
1:02:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you very much.
1:02:34
[SPEAKER_03]: We're not giving free plugs out here, but I will cheers you guys to the start of training camp and the start of football season.
1:02:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you very much right here at bottoms up.
1:02:43
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, cheers.
1:02:44
[SPEAKER_05]: Look at that.
1:02:45
[SPEAKER_05]: That's a man drink right there.
1:02:48
[SPEAKER_05]: Cheers.
1:02:49
[SPEAKER_05]: Crown Royal bottoms up.
1:02:51
[SPEAKER_05]: Love to see you.
1:02:56
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, I mean, look, I think left tackles the position that everyone's going to be watching.
1:03:09
[SPEAKER_06]: I think that's going to be one close to watch, but I want to do, I assume that's already been brought up.
1:03:12
[SPEAKER_06]: So I want to give you guys something different.
1:03:14
[SPEAKER_06]: And for me, the one that I don't hear a lot of people talking about, that I think might actually be interesting in this training camp and in preseason is Olimide is the keyis and Luther burden.
1:03:25
[SPEAKER_06]: I think that has some potential at wide receiver three to be interesting.
1:03:28
[SPEAKER_06]: I think everyone just assumes burden is going to be the third wide receiver and he might be.
1:03:32
[SPEAKER_06]: But, you know, he's been banged up.
1:03:33
[SPEAKER_06]: He's got some soft issue with things going on.
1:03:36
[SPEAKER_06]: And I don't think the bear has had a plan to draft burden or draft a receiver early.
1:03:42
[SPEAKER_06]: I think it just kind of fell into their lap, though.
1:03:44
[SPEAKER_06]: We just can't pass on this talent because I think they signs the key as what the idea that he was going to be their third wide receiver.
1:03:50
[SPEAKER_06]: But this guy is a really talented player.
1:03:53
[SPEAKER_06]: He doesn't mind getting dirty and blocking and doing the things that Ben Johnson really wants to do.
1:03:57
[SPEAKER_06]: He's really good in space, especially around the line of scrimmage.
1:04:01
[SPEAKER_06]: I think he is a talent.
1:04:04
[SPEAKER_06]: And I don't think this is one of those things where if Burton wins the job, you know, it's going to be Rome and DJ and Burton plus the twelve person, and we know they're going to be in a bunch.
1:04:13
[SPEAKER_06]: And Zacchaeus won't see the field.
1:04:15
[SPEAKER_06]: I think they're going to make sure Zacchaeus is on the field.
1:04:18
[SPEAKER_06]: And I think it's going to be interesting to see if Burton isn't really in tune in the offense and ready to go and we'll see what happens, obviously, in July and August.
1:04:26
[SPEAKER_06]: I think Zacchaeus could open the season as the third receiver and be getting more offensive snaps than Burton.
1:04:32
[SPEAKER_06]: So that's one I don't see a lot of people talking about, but I think it might be one to watch.
1:04:37
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, kind of like Leicester led in with his battle to watch and led into kind of a bold prediction.
1:04:43
[SPEAKER_08]: That's kind of a bold prediction.
1:04:45
[SPEAKER_08]: You know, as far as what a lot of fans are talking about, you know, Zacchaeus is not being mentioned.
1:04:51
[SPEAKER_08]: He's not getting his flat.
1:04:53
[SPEAKER_06]: Go watch his tape last.
1:04:54
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I know.
1:04:54
[SPEAKER_08]: This guy's a player.
1:04:56
[SPEAKER_08]: I like him.
1:04:56
[SPEAKER_08]: And you pointed this out too, is blocking.
1:04:58
[SPEAKER_08]: Zacchaeus, he's a tenacious willing blocker.
1:05:00
[SPEAKER_08]: And there'd be a lot of screen passes thrown.
1:05:03
[SPEAKER_08]: And yeah, I could see that.
1:05:05
[SPEAKER_08]: I love it.
1:05:06
[SPEAKER_08]: How about you, Greg?
1:05:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, what what was Ben Johnson's awesome motto here this off season.
1:05:12
[SPEAKER_03]: No block.
1:05:13
[SPEAKER_03]: No block, no rock.
1:05:14
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
1:05:15
[SPEAKER_03]: And honestly, uh, Zeki is gives a little bit of Earl Bennett vibes to me when you watch his tape, Earl Bennett was a
1:05:24
[SPEAKER_03]: somebody that was a favorite of mine, you know, back in the day somebody that was I think very under appreciated maybe outside of the bears fan realm.
1:05:32
[SPEAKER_03]: I think we all as bears fans appreciated what he brought to the table.
1:05:35
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think there is something there bill.
1:05:39
[SPEAKER_03]: And so when you look at what's going on with Luther Burden here in the first couple days of training camp, there's no reason to overreact yet.
1:05:46
[SPEAKER_03]: And we'll hear what Ben Johnson, you know, I know you guys have been live here right now, but home in John's just aired their interview with Ryan Polls.
1:05:55
[SPEAKER_03]: And he deferred to let Ben Johnson address what's going on with Luther Burden tomorrow morning.
1:06:02
[SPEAKER_03]: He's going to start
1:06:03
[SPEAKER_03]: It seems like it's, I guess the process will be Ben Johnson speaks before practices here for training camp going forward.
1:06:11
[SPEAKER_03]: So tomorrow morning, I think you need to look out for what he has to say in that regard.
1:06:15
[SPEAKER_03]: But I do think it's not something that
1:06:18
[SPEAKER_03]: You need to overreact from as bears fans, but I do think it's notable when you look at the way Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams and some of these guys have talked about colson loveland who didn't participate in offseason programs and Luther burned it neither.
1:06:34
[SPEAKER_03]: But you come to practice or you come to the press conferences yesterday before they get to practice and they're just throwing flowers at Colston Lovelin for his work ethic and what he's been doing at House Hall and trying to recover and we're not really hearing anything from Luther Bird again.
1:06:53
[SPEAKER_03]: not trying to stir anything up, but I just think it's notable and let's see what happens and let's see what Ben Johnson says tomorrow.
1:07:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Luther Burns is a premier talent.
1:07:04
[SPEAKER_03]: So if he can get right, whether it's health, I'm assuming it's health, that better be health.
1:07:11
[SPEAKER_03]: And if it is, then when he gets right, you know,
1:07:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody wants to compare to James and Williams.
1:07:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, James and Williams had gambling issues and had other issues where he suspended for the team.
1:07:25
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that Luther Burton can find his way to being an impact player a lot faster than James and Williams was with the Lions.
1:07:33
[SPEAKER_03]: When you have Antoine Randallella guy that will be under his tutelage, I think there's a good chemistry there.
1:07:40
[SPEAKER_03]: But let's let that play out here for the rest of August and we'll just have to wait and see.
1:07:46
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, if we're not going to go for the low hanging fruit on what we're looking for at training camp for position battles, you know, I think you already kind of saw it a little bit today with who's going to be that third corner back, right?
1:07:58
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, Terrell Smith didn't get first dibs.
1:08:01
[SPEAKER_03]: You got you got some guys that honestly, we're not familiar with as bears fans as getting some of those first team reps.
1:08:08
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm very curious with Jalen Johnson out for the next couple weeks.
1:08:12
[SPEAKER_03]: who's going to be the guy that takes that batons a phrase or is another guy that just didn't practice because of injury or otherwise we're going to I guess find out with that tomorrow as well.
1:08:24
[SPEAKER_03]: And as much as we give credit to how good this secondary looks on the front lines and on paper when you get past jail and johnson and tyrex Stevenson who's going to be your outside quarterback.
1:08:37
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think they want to put Kyler Gordon on the outside.
1:08:39
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying he can't do it.
1:08:41
[SPEAKER_03]: But they just paid him the top money in the league to be your nickel corner.
1:08:46
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think when you look at Dennis Allen defense, I think he's also going to mention a couple months ago that he might throw him out at safety a couple times.
1:08:55
[SPEAKER_03]: So he's going to be this hybrid type, potentially in this defense.
1:09:00
[SPEAKER_03]: So who's going to be the guys that are on the back line behind Tyrex, Stevenson and Jalen Johnson on the outside as corner back?
1:09:07
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's something that I'm really going to be looking at this year.
1:09:11
[SPEAKER_08]: That's a good one.
1:09:12
[SPEAKER_08]: How about you, Bill, on defense?
1:09:15
[SPEAKER_06]: I look, I'm going to be right there with Bragg.
1:09:17
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to bring up Tyrex Stevenson specifically.
1:09:19
[SPEAKER_06]: I like how Braggs put it with the, with the outside corner situation.
1:09:23
[SPEAKER_06]: But look, Tyrex Stevenson to me had a, and forget the Washington game.
1:09:27
[SPEAKER_06]: This goes beyond the Washington game, which we all, we all know about.
1:09:29
[SPEAKER_06]: Tyrese was in did not have a good season last year, as far as I'm concerned.
1:09:33
[SPEAKER_06]: I really thought he was going to take what was a pretty solid rookie campaign and take a step up.
1:09:38
[SPEAKER_06]: He didn't, I don't think his head was in the right place for a lot of the season.
1:09:41
[SPEAKER_06]: No, even the thing against the Lions where he did the little cheap trip on James and Williams and stuff, that bothered me.
1:09:48
[SPEAKER_06]: So I think Tyrese Stevenson, with probably tighter reigns, different defense.
1:09:53
[SPEAKER_06]: I think he's going to be an interesting guy to watch because I think
1:09:56
[SPEAKER_06]: The situation here is Dennis Allen's defense should fit Tirek Stevenson really well.
1:10:01
[SPEAKER_06]: And he should be able to excel and have a great season this year.
1:10:04
[SPEAKER_06]: If he doesn't, how does this impact a corner?
1:10:07
[SPEAKER_06]: I know we all sit there and say Smith's the guy, but Smith with the way he plays and zone and stuff, he may not read that was more of an eber flu scorer.
1:10:15
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if this is a Dennis Allen corner.
1:10:16
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not sure how he fits in this defense.
1:10:19
[SPEAKER_06]: like Greg said, we're getting a lot of different people in here that's going to be more of Dennis Allen's type of guys.
1:10:25
[SPEAKER_06]: We may see something surprising happen where maybe someone gets traded or they make some moves or something to get a secondary that does exactly what Dennis Allen wants to do.
1:10:35
[SPEAKER_06]: So I think that's interesting.
1:10:37
[SPEAKER_06]: I think Tyre Stevenson has an opportunity to really take like multiple steps forward this season and really solidify that that that secondary is an elite group, especially the corners once Jalen gets back on the field.
1:10:49
[SPEAKER_06]: But if he doesn't, if he continues to not
1:10:53
[SPEAKER_06]: have the right mindset, whatever it is, if he's still making mental errors on the field, how does this play out?
1:10:59
[SPEAKER_06]: I think is really interesting, defensively, because I think when you look at a lot of the other positions, like, look, they've got the third linebacker, everyone wants to know if Edwards or Edmunds goes down, who is getting out there, but no one I'm going to trust, I'll be honest there.
1:11:16
[SPEAKER_06]: But in terms of who they have as starters, you have to at least trust the linebackers, even if you don't think they're great,
1:11:22
[SPEAKER_06]: the interior defense of line has some really nice depth in it is there.
1:11:26
[SPEAKER_06]: Obviously they're weak in the depth at edge and your curious have maybe they're going to sign someone to beef that up, probably depends on how Austin Booker looks here in the next couple of weeks.
1:11:36
[SPEAKER_06]: But to me, I think a lot of that is settled, but the question to me really is not just specifically the secondary, but specifically those corners and I'm going to look at Tyrex Stevenson.
1:11:47
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
1:11:48
[SPEAKER_06]: How about how about offense for you, boys?
1:11:52
[SPEAKER_06]: You want me to go first this time?
1:11:54
[SPEAKER_06]: All right, on the offensive side of the ball, where because I'm a bit of a nerd, I was going to say Rochon Johnson, because I'm a Rochon fan, but there's a lot of things going on there in the running back room, and we're going to see how everything plays out, because I think Rochon has a chance.
1:12:09
[SPEAKER_06]: And I'm not saying it's going to happen.
1:12:10
[SPEAKER_06]: I think he has a chance to have a Jamal Williams type season and he had a Detroit.
1:12:14
[SPEAKER_06]: Not that good way, like, eighteen, nineteen touchdowns, but a between the tackles guy, especially if he betrays Swift and Ben Johnson, you know, still aren't on the same page, because clearly they weren't Detroit a few years ago.
1:12:25
[SPEAKER_06]: But for me, I'm looking at backup interior offensive line depth because I'm that big of a nerd.
1:12:32
[SPEAKER_06]: This is what I look at.
1:12:33
[SPEAKER_06]: We know the trio that's starting there and they did a great job beefing it up.
1:12:36
[SPEAKER_06]: But the one thing, this is one that, you know, I criticize Ryan Polls a lot, everybody knows that.
1:12:40
[SPEAKER_06]: But Ryan Polls, I thought, did a great job with interior depth last season on the offensive line.
1:12:47
[SPEAKER_06]: And that's what saved the offensive line from being a complete and utter train wreck.
1:12:51
[SPEAKER_06]: Because people sit there and talk about Coleman Shelton and Matt prior.
1:12:54
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, Coleman Shelton and Matt prior were not slated to be starters.
1:12:57
[SPEAKER_06]: That was Ryan Bates and Nate Davis.
1:12:59
[SPEAKER_06]: And when those guys, Bates couldn't get on the field, Nate Davis didn't want to get on the field.
1:13:03
[SPEAKER_06]: So when those guys weren't there,
1:13:05
[SPEAKER_06]: those two stepped up and at least made the offensive line functional.
1:13:08
[SPEAKER_06]: It was still bad, but it would have been the worst offensive line in the league had those guys not played well.
1:13:13
[SPEAKER_06]: When you look at it this year, you know, Joe Tunney is getting older and never misses games, but he is getting older, Drew Dalman.
1:13:20
[SPEAKER_06]: He's missed quite a few games over the last couple years, Jonah Jackson's coming off injury.
1:13:24
[SPEAKER_06]: So these guys aren't Iron Man guys that you're just going to expect seventeen games out of.
1:13:30
[SPEAKER_06]: Who's coming in after them?
1:13:32
[SPEAKER_06]: Is Doug Kramer the backup center?
1:13:33
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't trust Doug Kramer.
1:13:35
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, Newman, I don't think Newman has the strength right now to be an NFL offensive line.
1:13:40
[SPEAKER_06]: And I think he's probably a practice squad stash.
1:13:42
[SPEAKER_06]: Is it going to be McFadden?
1:13:43
[SPEAKER_06]: Is Ryan Bates going to be able to stay on the field?
1:13:46
[SPEAKER_06]: Who are the who are going to be the guys?
1:13:48
[SPEAKER_06]: Where if one of these guys goes down that they can step in and hopefully keep this offensive line functional?
1:13:53
[SPEAKER_06]: That to me is something that I have a lot of concerns about on offense.
1:13:58
[SPEAKER_06]: And I get, look, you can't
1:13:59
[SPEAKER_06]: fix everything in one off season.
1:14:01
[SPEAKER_06]: And obviously that offensive line needed a lot of work.
1:14:03
[SPEAKER_06]: They did what they had what they could do.
1:14:05
[SPEAKER_06]: And I think they did a great job, especially using trades and not just doing free agency, where they're just weren't enough guys on the interior.
1:14:11
[SPEAKER_06]: But how is this offensive line going to settle?
1:14:15
[SPEAKER_06]: You're probably looking at two guys that you need on the interior in terms of backups that are going to make the original fifty free.
1:14:21
[SPEAKER_06]: You could draw out of those interior options.
1:14:23
[SPEAKER_06]: You could draw two names out of a hat.
1:14:24
[SPEAKER_06]: And I basically say, OK,
1:14:26
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, I don't know how, you know, Bill Murray's another one.
1:14:29
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know how this is gonna play out, but I think it's gonna be important because I do think a couple of those guys, at least one of them is gonna start three or four games this season at some point.
1:14:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's fair.
1:14:40
[SPEAKER_03]: And for me, that's why I was somewhat disappointed that they weren't able to bring Matt prior back in summer guard.
1:14:46
[SPEAKER_03]: He certainly was a Swiss army knife for these guys is a backup and was thrown into the fire.
1:14:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know, the fiasco that was Nate Davis and God, we don't have to deal with that this summer here at training camp.
1:14:58
[SPEAKER_03]: But I do agree you brought up Bill Murray.
1:15:00
[SPEAKER_03]: I do think the bears are high on Bill Murray.
1:15:02
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see how Ben Johnson feels about Bill Murray.
1:15:05
[SPEAKER_03]: But I know last year he certainly was starting to make some waves at training camp and then an injury kind of derailed that momentum that he had or else maybe I think he would have seen the field a little bit last year.
1:15:15
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's a little bit of a disappointment.
1:15:17
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, you're really fishing right there.
1:15:20
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, when you're talking about Bill Murray is somebody that could be an impact back up there.
1:15:25
[SPEAKER_03]: For me, I'll stick with the starters.
1:15:27
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to stick a stay away from the left tackle.
1:15:30
[SPEAKER_03]: It's easy to talk about that.
1:15:32
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm certainly rooting for Azi Trepillo.
1:15:36
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'll show my bias there.
1:15:38
[SPEAKER_03]: But Colcomet, you know, addressed it today said this is the competition.
1:15:42
[SPEAKER_03]: He wasn't afraid to duck that smoke.
1:15:45
[SPEAKER_03]: you know today when he was asked about how this is going to go at tight end and he said it's a competition and I appreciate you know Cole is somebody that's a veteran on this team that's not taking anything for granted in that regard.
1:15:58
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they both can thrive within Ben Johnson's offense this year.
1:16:02
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Ben's smarter enough to know how to get the most out of both those players.
1:16:05
[SPEAKER_03]: But the end of the day there's only one football and you got a lot of different targets to work with
1:16:10
[SPEAKER_03]: And you know Ben Johnson certainly going to implement the run game as a foundation to this offense.
1:16:15
[SPEAKER_03]: And so when you look at this, you know, when you look at Sam Laporta as he came on the scene in the Ben Johnson offense, it's not.
1:16:25
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not a common theme for Titans to just jump in and be productive in their first year.
1:16:31
[SPEAKER_03]: It normally takes a Titan two years at least to get into a rhythm of how they're going to play in the league, because there's so much responsibility as a Titan from running routes, understanding what the receivers routes are, understanding what your responsibilities are, and then also having to play some offensive line responsibilities as well in terms of blocking.
1:16:52
[SPEAKER_03]: But at the same time, when you look at what Samuel Porter did in his rookie season under Ben Johnson, you know, I think there is something there and obviously they drafted him for a reason and then you look at Cole Cometan his ability as a veteran.
1:17:06
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he certainly has a leg up certainly with Colson Loveland recovering from an injury as well.
1:17:11
[SPEAKER_03]: But at the same time, I don't know if you guys had a chance to watch the quarterback documentary on Netflix here in season two, but when they highlighted the moment where they ran the play wasp, I don't know if you guys saw this, but you know, I think that just highlighted
1:17:28
[SPEAKER_03]: What Ben Johnson is looking for in terms of explosiveness?
1:17:32
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, yesterday when Ben Johnson spoke to the media, he highlighted some of the things that he wants his team to be and explosiveness was the first word out of his mouth, explosiveness, detailed physical, those were the things and poised.
1:17:49
[SPEAKER_03]: And so with the explosiveness, I think that's why they drafted Cole or Cole's in love when I should say so, you know, I think it's going to be interesting to watch those two guys play it out.
1:18:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Cole commits.
1:18:02
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that a head start here just from his experience and then, you know, how many reps you're getting and how long will it take Cole's in love with him to be full go.
1:18:11
[SPEAKER_03]: But then once he's ready,
1:18:13
[SPEAKER_03]: How fast has Ben Johnson want to unleash the dragon?
1:18:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I don't think he's afraid to put a guy out there that certainly has the ability to execute some of the things he wants to do in his playbook and coals a certain a different type of play set.
1:18:29
[SPEAKER_03]: So again, I think both of them can thrive, but there's only one football.
1:18:35
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think those two guys are going to be battling it out for
1:18:39
[SPEAKER_03]: trying to figure out Divi and up who's getting the most out of it for this season.
1:18:44
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, that's good.
1:18:45
[SPEAKER_08]: And a lot of people are assuming, in twelve personnel is going to be at a higher rate this year than maybe any other team.
1:18:51
[SPEAKER_08]: I know the lines.
1:18:52
[SPEAKER_08]: I think we're second last season running two tight-end sets.
1:18:56
[SPEAKER_08]: And everybody's assuming that's going to be the case.
1:18:58
[SPEAKER_08]: But I mean, if Cole is kind of, you know, insinuating that it's a competition for the number one spot that could mean that we're seeing Coleston at some point in one tight-end formations more.
1:19:12
[SPEAKER_08]: And that would be, that's kind of a bold
1:19:14
[SPEAKER_08]: you know, idea or concept in my opinion for this first year, especially for, you know, just turn twenty one year old, still got a little young body, you know, guy out there, but you're right, you know, Ben Johnson's innovative.
1:19:26
[SPEAKER_08]: He really values explosiveness and Colson has that for sure.
1:19:29
[SPEAKER_08]: And he's an underrated blocker has been pointed out tonight's show.
1:19:35
[SPEAKER_08]: So what would be though your bold prediction for this season that plays out in Trady Camp and Beyond, would you say, Brax?
1:19:43
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's a tough question.
1:19:44
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, haven't even gotten a practice yet.
1:19:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Open practice.
1:19:47
[SPEAKER_03]: First one is here on Friday.
1:19:49
[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, I'd be certainly stretching to try to come up with a bold prediction right now.
1:19:55
[SPEAKER_08]: You might just need to take another sweet because it's been a while.
1:19:59
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I can't if you like, I mean, throw back the credit.
1:20:01
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to fake it.
1:20:02
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to force it.
1:20:03
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I, you know, like I said, I think these are the things that are notable, and I don't mean to try to, you know, dodge the question, but at the same time, I just think it's, um,
1:20:15
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I think that I would just be lying if I tried to come up with something.
1:20:20
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, I'm not, I just, I don't think I'm really in a spot.
1:20:23
[SPEAKER_03]: I haven't seen this team in person yet.
1:20:26
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, you know, I'm always going to call it straight in that regard.
1:20:29
[SPEAKER_03]: I think some, you know, there's certain types that I'll, you know, try to have a take to have a take.
1:20:34
[SPEAKER_03]: But until I see these guys in person,
1:20:38
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, just I think that that is something that I don't really want to reach until I see it for myself and you know, I'll check back with you guys in a couple weeks if you guys want one training camps over.
1:20:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I certainly will have many predictions and some of them probably won't work out, but you know, I don't know.
1:20:57
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a tough question.
1:20:58
[SPEAKER_03]: So I really don't know where to take it with that.
1:21:01
[SPEAKER_03]: are you going to be going to begin to the open training camps almost every single one of them because didn't last year you go to like every one of them yeah I mean yeah I you know obviously with close practices credential media is going to be there and in the open practices I am able to get to so those would be the ones that I attended if
1:21:22
[SPEAKER_03]: anybody's out there obviously be looking forward to sitting with you guys in the bleachers.
1:21:26
[SPEAKER_03]: So I know how hard it is for fans to get there obviously with our outlet and some of the different avenues we have with what we're trying to do.
1:21:34
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I obviously have a different opportunity of being able to get out there and I'm grateful for that.
1:21:40
[SPEAKER_03]: And I certainly understand and you know, you know, I feel feel for the fans that aren't able to get out there.
1:21:47
[SPEAKER_03]: So certainly not something that I
1:21:50
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, uh, bang my chest about, you know, because I understand so many fans don't get to have the privilege that I do to get out there.
1:21:58
[SPEAKER_03]: But obviously, I'm trying to cover the team.
1:22:00
[SPEAKER_03]: We're doing post practice shows and we're doing different things.
1:22:02
[SPEAKER_03]: So I definitely will be out there for every open practice.
1:22:05
[SPEAKER_03]: And if you're there, uh, I can't wait to see you and maybe I'll buy you a drink.
1:22:09
[SPEAKER_03]: You never know.
1:22:12
[SPEAKER_05]: I was just impressed that you made the hike from Indiana, like every single day.
1:22:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, they moved practice the last year with Everflos.
1:22:21
[SPEAKER_03]: They started practice at nine thirty a.m.
1:22:24
[SPEAKER_03]: So that meant the gates quote unquote at a house all open at eight thirty a.m.
1:22:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Which meant some of the die hard of the die hards would get to the bus stop at Hawthorne Mall at
1:22:36
[SPEAKER_03]: between seven, seven, thirty.
1:22:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, now this all gets bumped up an hour.
1:22:40
[SPEAKER_03]: The thirty A and practices is when they start seven, thirty is when they're going to open gates up or or so.
1:22:48
[SPEAKER_03]: So that means the crazies are going to be there from six to six, thirty.
1:22:52
[SPEAKER_03]: And so for me from Northwest Indiana and trust me, I'm not complaining.
1:22:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm certainly living a privileged life over here, but from Northwest Indiana, I'll probably be up at four, thirty, four, forty, five when I'm getting on the road.
1:23:04
[SPEAKER_03]: But I will be beating traffic, so it's actually kind of helping me in that regard.
1:23:09
[SPEAKER_08]: Fair, fair, nice.
1:23:10
[SPEAKER_08]: All right, Bill, bring us home with a bull prediction from your desk.
1:23:14
[SPEAKER_06]: All right, I will not, I will not chicken out like Greg Brex.
1:23:20
[SPEAKER_06]: I will say the one thing I don't want to do is playoffs and I know Lester did it and look I think this team has an excellent opportunity when nine ten maybe on the level games if they went eleven games are going to make the playoffs I don't even think ten games guarantees you to make the playoffs in the NFC this year because I think there's a lot of pretty good teams not may not be a lot of high end talent like it's the Eagles who's second nobody really knows but when you look at the NFC
1:23:44
[SPEAKER_06]: You've got three teams in the NFCE, if you like Dallas, that are capable of making the playoffs four in the north, two in the south, and two in the west.
1:23:51
[SPEAKER_06]: That are actually three in the west, if you like the Cardinals.
1:23:54
[SPEAKER_06]: That's like eleven or twelve teams, so the bears could go ten and seven and be the ninth team in the NFCE this year.
1:24:00
[SPEAKER_06]: It's very possible, because teams like the Giants, I think, some of these saints, they're going to win two games, you know, three games.
1:24:07
[SPEAKER_06]: They're going to get the snack kicked out of them, so they're just going to be an opportunity for teams to start padding their windows.
1:24:12
[SPEAKER_06]: So even if the bears have a winning record, I don't necessarily know if they're definitely going to make the playoffs.
1:24:16
[SPEAKER_06]: I think they had a chance if they put this together.
1:24:19
[SPEAKER_06]: But to me, I'm going to look at the offense and I'm going to be a firm believer in what Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams are going to put together.
1:24:28
[SPEAKER_06]: It may start a little slow.
1:24:29
[SPEAKER_06]: This may not be
1:24:31
[SPEAKER_06]: an offense that scores, you know, thirty four points against Minnesota and week one, although Ben Johnson does seem to own Brian Flores.
1:24:37
[SPEAKER_06]: So we'll see what happens there.
1:24:39
[SPEAKER_06]: But to me, this offense is going to click and I'm going to say that this is a bold prediction.
1:24:45
[SPEAKER_06]: This is really bold.
1:24:46
[SPEAKER_06]: That Caleb Williams has the best season in as a quarterback in Chicago Bears history.
1:24:53
[SPEAKER_06]: Now, it's a very low bar.
1:24:54
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, he just says, as Jeff Ferguson, he just got a step over the bar.
1:24:58
[SPEAKER_06]: But, you know, I'm not saying he's necessarily going to break all of Eric Cramer's records and it's ridiculous that we say Eric Cramer when we talk about that.
1:25:05
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not saying he's definitely going over four thousand yards.
1:25:08
[SPEAKER_06]: But I'm going to talk about when you look at completion percentage, when you look at yards for attempt touchdowns, everything put together.
1:25:14
[SPEAKER_06]: He is going to be right at the top of the list right there with Eric Cramer.
1:25:17
[SPEAKER_06]: I think he's people look at it and say he had a better season than Eric Cramer.
1:25:20
[SPEAKER_06]: Again,
1:25:21
[SPEAKER_06]: That may not make him a an all pro may not even make him a pro bull or but when the bars this low I think Caleb Williams in year two as the best season Chicago Bears quarterback statistically has ever had Nice I like it
1:25:35
[SPEAKER_08]: I like it too.
1:25:36
[SPEAKER_08]: So now Ryan, we get a chance to share our bold predictions.
1:25:39
[SPEAKER_08]: You get to go first.
1:25:40
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought about this all night.
1:25:42
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I thought maybe picking Terrell Smith to start over Tyrex Stevenson.
1:25:46
[SPEAKER_05]: I hinted at that earlier.
1:25:48
[SPEAKER_05]: Bill, I cited your article.
1:25:49
[SPEAKER_05]: You wrote with PFF rankings between the two of them.
1:25:51
[SPEAKER_05]: We were talking about that a little bit earlier.
1:25:53
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not going to go there.
1:25:54
[SPEAKER_05]: Could talk about Azita Pillow taking over Braxton Jones's spot at left tackle.
1:26:00
[SPEAKER_05]: Certainly possible could be a bold prediction.
1:26:04
[SPEAKER_05]: But I think I'm going to keep it simple.
1:26:07
[SPEAKER_05]: I can be the heel in the state of Wisconsin.
1:26:09
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't care.
1:26:09
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to say the Chicago Bears finish ahead of the Green Bay Packers in the standings in the NFC North.
1:26:14
[SPEAKER_05]: Just keep it very simple.
1:26:16
[SPEAKER_05]: I do think we have the better roster.
1:26:19
[SPEAKER_05]: I like seeing us win in Lambo Field last year, should have swept them last year.
1:26:25
[SPEAKER_05]: I know there's a lot of questions in Minnesota with
1:26:28
[SPEAKER_05]: was JJ McCarthy going to look like.
1:26:31
[SPEAKER_05]: But I think Kevin O'Connell is one of the top three coaches in the NFL.
1:26:35
[SPEAKER_05]: Honestly, what he gets out of his roster.
1:26:38
[SPEAKER_05]: So I have more faith in Minnesota Vikings with JJ McCarthy than I have in Jordan, loving Green Bay and in the floor.
1:26:46
[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm going to say the bears outrank the Green Bay Packers and the standings this year.
1:26:52
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm with you, but I'm going to go ahead and say that they sweep the pack.
1:26:56
[SPEAKER_08]: Okay.
1:26:56
[SPEAKER_08]: For the first time since two thousand seven fellows, did you know it's been that long since we swept the packers?
1:27:03
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, well, will they beat Aaron Rogers?
1:27:06
[SPEAKER_08]: Yes, they'll beat Aaron Rogers.
1:27:07
[SPEAKER_06]: They'll beat Aaron Rogers.
1:27:08
[SPEAKER_06]: They'll beat Aaron Rogers.
1:27:10
[SPEAKER_06]: I'll be honest.
1:27:11
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, no, I think they beat the Steelers at home as well, late November.
1:27:15
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I think they sweep the pack though, which is bold around these parts, because we've not beaten them period in, you know, obviously we just beat over the last time, but not been good, the last decade plus once and six years or whatever it was, yeah.
1:27:31
[SPEAKER_08]: Right.
1:27:32
[SPEAKER_08]: So that's my bull prediction of the night, but appreciate you guys hopping on and on.
1:27:37
[SPEAKER_03]: time because I get called out from Bill in the three of you I was asked to give a bold prediction about training camp and the three of you gave regular season.
1:27:50
[SPEAKER_03]: So this is this is Milwaukee right here.
1:27:54
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what this is.
1:27:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't hear any training camp bold predictions for many of you.
1:27:58
[SPEAKER_03]: This is all regular season.
1:28:00
[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't, you know, I'm calling foul play here.
1:28:03
[SPEAKER_09]: Give us a prediction.
1:28:04
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
1:28:07
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm staying on.
1:28:08
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm chicken and now come on.
1:28:10
[SPEAKER_05]: You can't give us that build up and not give us a pretty no.
1:28:15
[SPEAKER_03]: I, you know, honestly, I, this I am so, um, scarred from the last two years, you know, and I said it's scarred the off season that I am not high, I refuse.
1:28:27
[SPEAKER_03]: I am not hyping anything up.
1:28:29
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that's somewhat of the tenor you've heard the last few days.
1:28:33
[SPEAKER_03]: like I honestly feel like this team kind of went off of what they did last year with hard knocks and you know the pop and circumstance of you know Caleb and Rome to top ten picks coming in and all this hype and hoping you know every the bottom kind of fell out on this team so I just I think for the first year my life
1:28:54
[SPEAKER_03]: I, it may be since the, the dark days in the mid, twenty, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, you know, when, when, you know, not many people were tuning into training camp, you know, shows, you know, because the team just really had zero hope at all.
1:29:11
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just at a point now where I'm like, all right, you guys go out and prove it.
1:29:15
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm done doing the over-hype train.
1:29:20
[SPEAKER_03]: I see the vision.
1:29:21
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm very excited for Ben Johnson.
1:29:23
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't wait to see how he operates on Friday in person and this coaching staff and everything they're trying to do with Caleb Williams in the soft ends.
1:29:32
[SPEAKER_03]: But I just think that I've kind of grown out of this offseason Kool-Aid, this training camp, just lose my mind, say things out of my ass and, and I just, that's where I'm at right now.
1:29:47
[SPEAKER_03]: I just, I want this, I don't want, it's almost like a superstition.
1:29:51
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to jinx it.
1:29:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Let these guys play it out.
1:29:54
[SPEAKER_03]: I do think that it's going to require some patience from us as a fan base when you look at the way the Lions kind of built up these last three or four years.
1:30:04
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I think I saw, you know, Shane Marsaw from tape never lies bring up, you know, when they said, seventy percent completion percentages, the goal from Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams.
1:30:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, Shane said that Jerry golf didn't hit that goal with Ben Johnson until his third year with him.
1:30:21
[SPEAKER_03]: So I just think we all have to kind of slow down.
1:30:26
[SPEAKER_03]: It's okay to have expectations and hope for the playoffs.
1:30:30
[SPEAKER_03]: But I do think there's a process that needs to take place.
1:30:34
[SPEAKER_03]: And if we don't have patients as a fan base, maybe we're setting ourselves up for some kind of disappointment.
1:30:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe not.
1:30:42
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I know in Chicago, when the momentum starts to build, we saw this in twenty eighteen, you know, it kind of turns into a runaway train because we're not really used to that here in Chicago.
1:30:52
[SPEAKER_03]: But at the same time, I do think that what this full picture and what
1:30:58
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, when we get to the mount top of what this Ben Johnson vision is, I don't think that we're going to see that this year.
1:31:04
[SPEAKER_03]: I think we're going to see it for years to come.
1:31:06
[SPEAKER_03]: And this shouldn't just be a one year wonder.
1:31:08
[SPEAKER_03]: This should be something that progresses over the next three to five years.
1:31:12
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you definitely want to see sustainable.
1:31:14
[SPEAKER_06]: But Brax can you at least tell us that December, twentyth game, whatever it is, Saturday against the Packers, when they flash up the playoffs, will the bears at least be in the hunt?
1:31:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I do think they'll be in the hunt.
1:31:26
[SPEAKER_03]: I do.
1:31:27
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, sure.
1:31:28
[SPEAKER_03]: If they can be in the hunt two years ago, with that team.
1:31:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, good Lord.
1:31:33
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, honestly, they should have been five and two last year.
1:31:36
[SPEAKER_03]: And how many, you know, how many games did they lose by one score after that?
1:31:39
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a joke.
1:31:40
[SPEAKER_03]: So there's no reason why this team can't be competitive in December.
1:31:46
[SPEAKER_03]: I think a lot of it weighs on how they start those first four games before the buy.
1:31:51
[SPEAKER_03]: You have a very, in my opinion, if you're looking at playoff picture, it's a must win against Minnesota week one.
1:31:58
[SPEAKER_03]: You cannot lose a divisional home game to start the year against a quarterback that's never started in the NFL.
1:32:05
[SPEAKER_03]: And then you have the Dallas Cowboys at home two weeks later.
1:32:08
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, we'll see what happens in Detroit week two, but if you can start two and one and head to Vegas and play the Raiders, who I do think on paper, they're a better team.
1:32:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see how the season plays out, but that's going to be how this kind of snowball effect works to where
1:32:24
[SPEAKER_03]: If they're clicking on all cylinders in the second half of the season, you got to set yourself up in the first half of the season.
1:32:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Didn't work out last year.
1:32:32
[SPEAKER_03]: I know they started foreign to and the bottom fell out.
1:32:34
[SPEAKER_03]: But the idea is, if you can have that same kind of start with a better coaching staff, then we can get to November and December and actually have a bunch of chances.
1:32:43
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm with you.
1:32:44
[SPEAKER_08]: And I think you also gave a training camp Bulltake with the course and other thing potentially.
1:32:50
[SPEAKER_08]: Thank you Brian.
1:32:52
[SPEAKER_08]: You didn't go on the limit.
1:32:53
[SPEAKER_08]: Say it.
1:32:54
[SPEAKER_08]: But we're great not a curve tonight.
1:32:55
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
1:32:56
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, but no to self.
1:32:58
[SPEAKER_08]: We got to have him on to start to show not.
1:33:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know, I'm can track actually obligated to not say Colcombat will lose any kind of car.
1:33:04
[SPEAKER_03]: you know, we're not we're not going there, but I am certainly excited to see those guys battle it out and, you know,
1:33:21
[SPEAKER_03]: obviously Cole, you know, knows what he's doing.
1:33:23
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm worried about Cole.
1:33:24
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
1:33:25
[SPEAKER_08]: And co exist.
1:33:26
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, I think they're going to dominate.
1:33:27
[SPEAKER_08]: He's already said he wants to be the best twelve personnel unit in the league.
1:33:31
[SPEAKER_08]: Cole has said that recently.
1:33:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:33:33
[SPEAKER_06]: He's in the best twelve personnel since Gronk and Aaron Hernandez.
1:33:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:33:37
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't have to put the two guys against each other, right?
1:33:41
[SPEAKER_08]: You did it on tonight's show.
1:33:42
[SPEAKER_08]: That was you.
1:33:43
[SPEAKER_03]: That was your goal too.
1:33:44
[SPEAKER_03]: I know, well, you know, it's certainly going to be excited to see how that plays out.
1:33:47
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, we don't have to villainize one or the other.
1:33:50
[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to, it's, it's an asset to have both those guys.
1:33:54
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a, you know, like this is, this is something that Ben Johnson certainly can utilize.
1:33:59
[SPEAKER_03]: And we don't have to start moving guys out of town before we lose this privilege of having two very, very solid tight ends.
1:34:06
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, no, I look forward to seeing them coexist longer than this year.
1:34:10
[SPEAKER_08]: A lot of people are saying, Cole's going to be gone after this year, but I hope that they can keep them around for longer.
1:34:15
[SPEAKER_08]: I know he signed a contract, but that's, you know, falling down the middle of the league as far as price tag for tight ends with each new signing.
1:34:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the NFL's a business, but I'll tell you this much.
1:34:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Cole commit lives and breeze the Chicago Bears.
1:34:31
[SPEAKER_03]: And he would give his, he's given his blood sweat and tears for this organization.
1:34:36
[SPEAKER_03]: And you know, he's somebody that I think is very comfortable here in Chicago.
1:34:40
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, but, you know, it is a business.
1:34:43
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm not going to speak for what he wants to do in his future endeavors, but at the same time, I know that he loves playing here in Chicago and fights.
1:34:51
[SPEAKER_03]: to the nail for this team to have successful seasons for bear's fans.
1:34:56
[SPEAKER_06]: And contractually, it could work out because when Colston Loveland is doing extension, assuming the bears want to extend them and he works out as a draft pick, that's Comet's final year under contract.
1:35:07
[SPEAKER_06]: So the bears can have Loveland on a rookie deal with Comet.
1:35:11
[SPEAKER_06]: And then after three years, if they want to let Comet Walker, maybe at that point, Cole's willing to take a much more reduced contract, maybe they're able to keep it together.
1:35:19
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't think that Cole Comet has definitely gone after this season, like a lot of bear's fans seem to think.
1:35:24
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:35:25
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
1:35:25
[SPEAKER_08]: Agreed.
1:35:26
[SPEAKER_08]: Awesome.
1:35:28
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, guys.
1:35:28
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, hey, we appreciate you joining this extravaganza.
1:35:31
[SPEAKER_05]: We've had a long-guess list tonight.
1:35:32
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1:35:35
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1:35:37
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1:35:39
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1:35:47
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1:35:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, appreciate you.
1:35:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
1:35:51
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I didn't mean to steal your
1:35:53
[SPEAKER_03]: You're your spotlight here.
1:35:54
[SPEAKER_06]: I know I talk lots anytime I can share the mic with Greg Braggs.
1:36:00
[SPEAKER_03]: You're one of you that would say that.
1:36:02
[SPEAKER_06]: I know what I get to take a shot at Purdue.
1:36:06
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1:36:09
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1:36:43
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1:36:44
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