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Two Jersey Js: If I Could Turn Back Time · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: Hey, guys, it's Jackie Goldschneider and Jen Fessler, and we
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  Speaker 1: are two Jersey Jays coming at you.
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  Speaker 2: So funny, jack yeah saying two Jersey Jays me or
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  Speaker 2: you say it, you know.
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  Speaker 1: What, We're two Jersey Jays whoever says it. So, But
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  Speaker 1: we have a special episode for you guys today because
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  Speaker 1: we were talking and reminiscing and we were like, let's
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  Speaker 1: do an episode about like all the things we were, like,
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  Speaker 1: all the things that made our childhood so memorable and
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  Speaker 1: so special because people love that stuff, like the nostalgia
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  Speaker 1: and everyone has these like shared experiences, right right.
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  Speaker 2: I mean we also we were talking about pop culture
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  Speaker 2: maybe you know, and we will we want to do
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  Speaker 2: an episode on just what's going on today. But as
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  Speaker 2: we were talking about pop culture, we were like really
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  Speaker 2: thrown back to our childhood and that pop culture seems
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  Speaker 2: so much more important than today. And I've right so
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  Speaker 2: much to say about it, because when I was thinking
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  Speaker 2: about the pop culture that I loved, like so many
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  Speaker 2: things came flooding back.
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  Speaker 1: But let's start at the start. We had different childhoods.
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  Speaker 1: You were raised in Texas. I was raised in Staten Island.
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  Speaker 1: So let's talk about yours first. So yeah, I had.
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  Speaker 2: A very tumultuous childhood, to say the least.
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  Speaker 1: It was.
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  Speaker 2: My parents were divorced and I moved to Texas when
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  Speaker 2: I was nine. My mother was remarried. We'd actually moved
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  Speaker 2: around a lot when I was a baby. I was
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  Speaker 2: born in Louisiana. My sister was born in Columbus.
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  Speaker 1: Ohio, and so moved to Long Island.
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  Speaker 2: Like most of the Jewish friends I have now, it's
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  Speaker 2: either Long Island or Jersey or the city or Connecticut,
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  Speaker 2: but anyway, for us, it was Texas. So we moved
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  Speaker 2: to Sugarland, Texas. My sister was eight and I grew
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  Speaker 2: up in Sugarland. I graduated from high school in Houston.
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  Speaker 2: It was actually performing Arts High School, and then I
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  Speaker 2: went to college at UT Austin and graduated, and then
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  Speaker 2: moved as quickly as I could to New York City.
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  Speaker 2: So a little bit of a different, you know, bringing
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  Speaker 2: for sure. And you know, I had and I still
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  Speaker 2: am best friends with my cousins. My mom is an
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  Speaker 2: identical twin, so my aunt has two daughters, and so
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  Speaker 2: the four of us always been like sisters. But we're
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  Speaker 2: always back and forth visiting them on Long Island, and
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  Speaker 2: I think that it's so interesting, and I was always
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  Speaker 2: so envious, like I wanted to live on Long Island.
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  Speaker 1: But some of the.
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  Speaker 2: Like some of the songs, some of the like I
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  Speaker 2: bet that we're going to like know a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the same stuff or at least like reminisce about things
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  Speaker 2: that were special to us, and it'll be the same.
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  Speaker 1: Even though I grew up in Texas, right, even conservative
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  Speaker 1: also there? What was it conservative there in Texas? Yeah, yes,
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  Speaker 1: I mean conservative. I lived in Sugarland, Texas, not when
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  Speaker 1: I went So when I went to high school, I
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  Speaker 1: went in to try out to go to the school
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of Houston. It was a magnet school,
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  Speaker 1: meaning they were pulling from all different areas of Houston,
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  Speaker 1: and so the school it was such a different experience
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  Speaker 1: than going to sugar Land Junior High or to you know,
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  Speaker 1: Clement's High School. So the performing arts school it was.
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  Speaker 2: Remember, so we're talking about going back to nineteen eighty
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  Speaker 2: two when I started high school and there were tons
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  Speaker 2: of kids were we were all a bunch of like
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  Speaker 2: performing arts and visual arts freaks, like you know, the
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  Speaker 2: boys were out about being gay as opposed to like
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  Speaker 2: sugar Land, where you know, things were not at that right, right,
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  Speaker 2: right level, but it was got boys were out about
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  Speaker 2: being gay. They were like they so a lot of
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  Speaker 2: like very cool kids from all different walks of life,
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  Speaker 2: and it was just very granola and very arty and
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  Speaker 2: very we all love each other and oh wow, it
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  Speaker 2: was a great high school experience, very different from like
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  Speaker 2: a typical high school experience.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it was like a kid when you were
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  Speaker 1: a kid kid, like was your home like sort of
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  Speaker 1: buttoned up or was it like loud?
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  Speaker 2: And my home was not a happy place growing up,
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  Speaker 2: So whether or not, I don't know what to No,
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that it was conservative in any way.
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  Speaker 2: It was just very chaotic and my mom my dad
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  Speaker 2: left my mom when I was like three, and then
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  Speaker 2: my mom remarried and then they got divorced and then
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  Speaker 2: remarried again, and he died he had a heart attack.
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  Speaker 1: But also.
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  Speaker 2: Just it wasn't there was no Brady Bunch. If we're
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  Speaker 2: going to talk about pop culture back then, it was
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  Speaker 2: not that kind of a scenario at all. Quite quite different.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I grew up in Staten Island and I
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  Speaker 1: moved when I was almost fourteen and I moved to
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  Speaker 1: New Jersey, but Staten Island was the most mad place
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  Speaker 1: to grow up. It was just like the houses were
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  Speaker 1: all really close together, and all your like family and
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  Speaker 1: best friends lived like on the same block, and everyone
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  Speaker 1: was just always together, like outside, all the kids on
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  Speaker 1: my block there was like twenty of us. We played
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  Speaker 1: manhunting each other's backyards at night. We were but it
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  Speaker 1: was gritty, like Staten Island was a little bit gritty.
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  Speaker 1: I was born in Borough Park, Brooklyn, and I moved
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  Speaker 1: to Staten Island as a baby, and it was just
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  Speaker 1: like I'll tell you, my next door neighbor was my
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  Speaker 1: very best friend in the world. And my parents don't
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  Speaker 1: know the story, and I don't know if they listen
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  Speaker 1: to my podcast, but we used to when we were
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  Speaker 1: like ten years old. We started. We would walk around,
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  Speaker 1: but ten years old, walk around the streets and pick
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  Speaker 1: up old cigarettes and relight them and smoke. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: I was so bye. Oh to this day, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: just thinking about it. But we before I had a pool.
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  Speaker 1: My brother and I used to fill up green, big
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  Speaker 1: green garbage cans and get it and we used to
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  Speaker 1: fill it up with water from the host. It was like,
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  Speaker 1: and no one cared stat and it was just like
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  Speaker 1: a free for all. Can I tell you a funny
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  Speaker 1: story though? When I think of my childhood in Staten Island,
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  Speaker 1: so my my parents are like a little like crazy
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  Speaker 1: right there. They're wonderful, right, But anyway, so my dad,
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  Speaker 1: I used to not like to go to sleep when
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  Speaker 1: I was a kid, and I still don't sleep that well.
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  Speaker 1: But outside my room there was like a light, right,
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  Speaker 1: like a street light, and I guess it was controlled
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  Speaker 1: by like a city grid or what time the lights
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  Speaker 1: come on, what time they go off, And it used
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  Speaker 1: to come on every night at nine o'clock. But I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know that that was controlled by another like entity, right,
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  Speaker 1: So my father used to tell me that the light
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  Speaker 1: outside my room was the Darth Vader light, and Darth
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  Speaker 1: Vader when the light came on, it meant Darth Vader
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  Speaker 1: was in the area looking for children who weren't sleeping,
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  Speaker 1: and that, oh my god, if I was a wait
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  Speaker 1: Darth Vader, darth Vader would bite my arm off. So,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, every night at nine o'clock, whether or
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  Speaker 1: not I was tired, I was like my eyes were
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  Speaker 1: fucking shut, and I was like shuddering under the because
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  Speaker 1: the light would come on. It was terrifying. And then
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  Speaker 1: one time my parents took me to somewhere like Atlantic City,
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  Speaker 1: Ocean City, whatever, and we went to this like they
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  Speaker 1: had like a carnival, and there was like this little
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  Speaker 1: ride and we went into this ride and it was
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  Speaker 1: like a spaceship that shut and Darth Vader came out
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  Speaker 1: and I freakd o you poor little things? Oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god. I still remember it was so vivid.
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  Speaker 1: But Staten Island was so fun.
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  Speaker 2: The parents like the things that they got away with
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  Speaker 2: quote unquote, I guess, I mean I org and even
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  Speaker 2: just like adults.
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  Speaker 1: So I went to sugar Land.
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  Speaker 2: I started out in whatever elementary school and it was
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  Speaker 2: called I don't remember sugar Lyne Junior.
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, so at this elementary school, I was nine
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  Speaker 2: years old. If you were bad, you had to go
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  Speaker 2: to the principal's office and you would get popped. He
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  Speaker 2: had a big paddle in a way. Yes wow, now
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  Speaker 2: like sitting on and like you have to imagine that,
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  Speaker 2: did day, sweetheart bend over the table because I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: smack you with this paddle?
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  Speaker 1: Can you imagine this shit. I can't believe even back then, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I can't believe because I'd never my I don't think
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  Speaker 1: my parents would ever be okay with like someone hitting me.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I ever got hit for whatever reason.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe my mom wrote a letter, maybe they had to
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  Speaker 2: have permission, but it was always kind of looming.
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  Speaker 1: And so this was we're talking about nineteen seventy eight.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you weren't even born yet. No, I was born.
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  Speaker 1: I was born in seventy six. Oh you were all right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a baby seventy six. I was born in sixty eight,
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  Speaker 1: so or only eight years apart.
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  Speaker 2: So, but I mean imagine like and also like you,
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  Speaker 2: even in Sugarland, we used to run around, you know,
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  Speaker 2: playing war with forts, and I was always outside. I
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  Speaker 2: mean this that you hear. We all have this kind
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  Speaker 2: of the same story. I mean, the world is so
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  Speaker 2: different now you have to have organized playdates. My mother
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  Speaker 2: name never made me a playdate.
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  Speaker 1: You kidding me? Now? I remember all these these kids,
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  Speaker 1: and I wonder what happened to them. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: them are not on social media. I was always boy crazy,
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  Speaker 1: and so I've looked just to see what they look like.
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  Speaker 1: Now like the boys that I had to pitchbrushes on
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  Speaker 1: a lot of them I can't find. But there was
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  Speaker 1: even in kindergarten. I went to Montessori School in Staten Island,
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  Speaker 1: and I, at five years old, was my first crush
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  Speaker 1: and I was just infatuated with this kid, Jerome, and
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  Speaker 1: I drew hearts all over his picture in my yearbook
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  Speaker 1: at five years old, Jackie.
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  Speaker 2: I was in love at five years old and I
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  Speaker 2: was the first. I was the only kindergartener that got
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  Speaker 2: to the first grade play to play Susie Snowflake because
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  Speaker 2: I had to try out and dance, and all I
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  Speaker 2: could think about was Philip Wilner, who I'm now I
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  Speaker 2: facebooked him years and years later. I gave him when
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  Speaker 2: we moved to Texas. I mean he was to me then.
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  Speaker 2: He was a little guy with glasses. All the girls
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  Speaker 2: loved him, and I think I gave him my hamster
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  Speaker 2: like before we moved to Houston. And oh but that's
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  Speaker 2: the reason why I got to be Susie Snowplake, because
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  Speaker 2: he picked me to dance like in choir with him.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, I just remember the obsession and I
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  Speaker 2: was like you, I was five starts early.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I guess for some people it starts early.
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  Speaker 1: For I don't know, Rachel, I did my daughter.
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  Speaker 2: My mother used to get upset because Rachel would follow
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  Speaker 2: when workers would come in when my mother was babysitting.
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  Speaker 2: She would go stand like the window in the back
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  Speaker 2: and watch them working in the backyard, like we had landscapers,
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  Speaker 2: and it would bug my mother, and it bugged me
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  Speaker 2: that it bugged my mother. I'm like, what do you
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  Speaker 2: think here is happening? I think Rachel wants to you know,
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  Speaker 2: like gross, But she was just for whatever reason, she
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  Speaker 2: used to like follow there.
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  Speaker 1: Like in Texas, there are like different names for like
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  Speaker 1: the types of groups. Like in Saten Island, there was
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  Speaker 1: I guess you would call it now like their version
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  Speaker 1: of goth. They called him a critter. So like a
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  Speaker 1: critter was somebody who was like a cool goth, like
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  Speaker 1: you wore like the dark jacket. You were all like emo,
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  Speaker 1: you are like leather and like you listen to heavy
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  Speaker 1: metal and like the only thing I wanted out of
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  Speaker 1: life was to be a critter. And then the but
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  Speaker 1: if you like weren't cool and you were a critter,
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  Speaker 1: you were just like a dirt bag. Like everyone would
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  Speaker 1: just call you it, everyone call you a dirt peg.
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  Speaker 1: We did not just want to have that critter. The
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  Speaker 1: problem is that I had I was like darkened emo
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  Speaker 1: and like had this big hair and my hair was huge, enormous.
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  Speaker 1: And then when I moved to New Jersey my freshman
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  Speaker 1: year of high school, people weren't quite so over the top,
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  Speaker 1: Like my hair was really big, and my family was
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  Speaker 1: really loud, and like, I just think that I from
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  Speaker 1: the jump did not fit in there and had a
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  Speaker 1: really really hard time in high school. Sounds like you.
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  Speaker 2: Had despite really really yeah, well yes, but in elementary school.
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  Speaker 2: At one point my mom and my first stepfather they
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  Speaker 2: separated and so we moved in with my dad in
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  Speaker 2: New York City, my sister and I and he had
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  Speaker 2: apartment in the city, and we ended up going to
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  Speaker 2: private school like Horace Man. I mean, there was so
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  Speaker 2: much moving around for us. And then we went back
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  Speaker 2: to my mom when she got divorced and we started
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  Speaker 2: Sugarland Junior High and I remember it was so it
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  Speaker 2: was awkward, it was so horrible. I felt so like
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  Speaker 2: a fish out of water. First of all, we were
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  Speaker 2: like the only Jewish girls in the neighborhood much less
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  Speaker 2: like the school, right, And I remember like my mom
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  Speaker 2: dropping me off at a class and she went because
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  Speaker 2: this is like how they talked back then, and my
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  Speaker 2: mother waved, She's.
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  Speaker 1: Like bye pussy bye pussy cat.
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  Speaker 2: And I had like you, I mean, this is these
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  Speaker 2: are the days before carrot. And I used to sit
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  Speaker 2: behind this girl, Carrie and struggling junior high, and she
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  Speaker 2: would go like she would with the back of her hand.
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  Speaker 2: She would just like go her down her hair like
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  Speaker 2: this and it was all smooth and silky. And I
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  Speaker 2: would put mine like this and it had like a
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  Speaker 2: big frizzy hard ridge and then another ridge, and I
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  Speaker 2: just remember all I wanted was to have like that smooth,
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  Speaker 2: silky hair. It was like, I mean, I guess junior
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  Speaker 2: high's not easy for anyone. I don't think that my
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  Speaker 2: kids would look back and say it was so great necessarily,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't remember it being very fun. Yeah, we're
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  Speaker 2: totally getting it's like our whole childhoods and we're forgetting
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  Speaker 2: all about pop culture stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But I know we could talk about pop culture, but
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  Speaker 1: I so I moved it high school. Well, we're going
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  Speaker 1: to talk about pop culture in a second, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: all good. I moved in high school to New Jersey,
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  Speaker 1: and I had a really hard time in high school.
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  Speaker 1: I did not fit in there, and I think from
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  Speaker 1: the beginning I was sort of like lost, and I
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  Speaker 1: never I just never found myself. But I when I left,
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  Speaker 1: I kind of left forever. I don't really go back.
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  Speaker 1: But my sweet sixteen I just invited like the whole
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  Speaker 1: freaking school because I didn't care. I had it in
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  Speaker 1: like a wedding venue. It was so big and fancy,
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  Speaker 1: and I invited this guy from like the next town
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  Speaker 1: who I had a huge crush on, and he was older,
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  Speaker 1: he was seventeen. He drove already, and he came alone,
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  Speaker 1: and my friend Jen hooked up with him, and I got,
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  Speaker 1: so you put this. I feel like I've read this
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  Speaker 1: in your book. Is this in your book? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I might have just told you. But I had this
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  Speaker 1: like slam book, like a sign in book at my party,
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  Speaker 1: and like you could sign in and write a little
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  Speaker 1: message on it. And she wrote me like a chapter
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the book, all about why I
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't be mad at her and why she liked him first.
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  Speaker 1: And I was just the whole experience was just so miserable.
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  Speaker 1: And I wore this pink taffeta dress that was so
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  Speaker 1: ugly and I was really overweight and I couldn't find
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  Speaker 1: a dress so I had it made, and like it
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  Speaker 1: was just horrible. It was just horrible, horrible. Yeah, high
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  Speaker 1: school was my escape. You know.
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  Speaker 2: It was like because again it was so we're talking
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  Speaker 2: about Houston, Texas in nineteen eighty two, but it was
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  Speaker 2: like again, I was a misfit and it was just
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  Speaker 2: the land of misfits at my high school and we
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  Speaker 2: all just were everybody accepted, everybody, you know, and it
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  Speaker 2: was just I'm so grateful for that experience, but it
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  Speaker 2: was a total nightmare in junior high and in elementary school.
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  Speaker 1: And you still have a lot of high school friends.
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  Speaker 2: My three of my very best friends. I'm going to Houston.
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  Speaker 2: I think I did I mention that to you. I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to Houston, first time back since I left. One
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  Speaker 2: of the three of them was in Houston, and we're
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  Speaker 2: going to go to Rodeo. So I have to go
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  Speaker 2: to California and then I'm going to go to Houston
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  Speaker 2: because I've been wanting to just go to Rodeo with
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  Speaker 2: her for so long. I'm going to go see old Dominion.
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  Speaker 2: I am so excited. So again, I haven't been back
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  Speaker 2: to Houston. Yeah, it's really but we all the four
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  Speaker 2: of us get together every year. My friend has a
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  Speaker 2: house in on the western Shore of Maryland. Eastern Shore.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember you going last year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got you over here. My mind is so lately,
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  Speaker 2: I just can't keep a thought.
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  Speaker 1: Pause. All right, So then let's talk about some pop culture.
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  Speaker 1: So when I think of the things that got me
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  Speaker 1: through the eighties, so I had I was very much.
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  Speaker 1: My parents worked full time. I'm a strange. I've always
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  Speaker 1: been a strange from my sister, my brother I love dearly.
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  Speaker 1: He's disabled. And so after after a certain age, it's
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  Speaker 1: sort of like it was, it was hard to like
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  Speaker 1: socialize together as easily, you know, So I kind of
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  Speaker 1: would disappear into my own world and just I watched
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  Speaker 1: a lot of TV, read a lot of books.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I read a lot of flowers in the attic.
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  Speaker 2: It was that your generation or is it just mine?
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yes, and I and I love that. But what
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I really loved, when I think of the books I
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: loved was I would devour the sweet Valley High and
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Sweet Valley Trends series? Did you watch that? Did you
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: read that? Oh god? I was absolutely obsessed, And like,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: I think about it because my kids don't love reading,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: and they're smart kids, but they absolutely never read a
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: book ever since the schools. I guess at a certain
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: age they stopped like making you read a certain number
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: of minutes at night. And I don't think they've picked
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: them with books.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, I mean everything is everything goes back to social media, right,
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Like there was no we weren't communicating with our friends
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: at unless you know, you were on the house phone.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: There was no cell phone and you had nothing to
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: do if like let's say, I mean I was grounded
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: all the time and for whatever reason, it was just
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: crazy in my house, and so I would just read.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be allowed to watch TV, so I would
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: read and I would Really I'm grateful for that, right,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, me too.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Oh and Judy Bloom did you read it? Obviously Judy
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Bloom the best, the best, loved reading really and then
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: like you did you.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Sneak like Wifey? I don't know that was like her
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: sexy book? Oh my god?
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Oh no. I also a fourth grade nothing. Oh. I
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: loved Yeah. But I also I loved are There God
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: is Me? Margaret? I loved Sneaking a dirty movie. I
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: loved it. Like when I saw Porky's for the first time,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: I was like, what is this shit? I was? I
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: loved it.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Wifey was a Judy Bloom book that was like spicy. Oh,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: and then the other one was the one she wrote
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: about the girl she lost her virginity. Then they broke up.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Come on, remember I don't know. I was read everything
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Beauty Bloom of.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I loved it. But TV was really like I
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: would plan every night around what was on TV. Different
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: strokes might have been my favorite. Okay, the episode when
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: and when I think of it, I think of the
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: episode where Arnold and his friend Dudley went to the
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: bike store bike store, do you remember this one? And
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: the bike shop owner tried to molest them? Do you
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: don't remember this? And it was such a pivotal episode
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: because I was horrified by it. But I also couldn't
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: believe what I was watching on Like TV, do you remember?
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Stuff like that would come up?
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Like good Times and where Janet Jackson she was like
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: she ended up living with uh JJ and like the
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: whole family. Did you watch Good Times?
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I loved it, and she her mother took that
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: iron to her like was abusive. They were upstairs. I
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: don't remember.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: I don't remember that. I mean that this is the
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: crap that used to like, yeah, keep me up at night,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: but it was. I just remember being so horrified. I mean,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: I guess my kids obviously have seen things on TV
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: that I'm sure they felt the same way about. But
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: there's so much that I think though back to I
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: was so young.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: My other favorite episode from childhood was the pilot episode
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: of the Wonder Years where Winnie and Kevin kissed and
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I felt like I was having my first kiss. It
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: was the best episode. Oh god, I feel like I
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: want to watch it again today. It was the most
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: funny things.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: We're so yes, so we're eight years apart, and that
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: was so past my time, like this, Yeah, I mean
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: I watched it. Watch you probably watched like Dallas and
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: of course, and what was the one with Holkins Crest?
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: What was the fancy line Falcon's crest? No, was it Dallas?
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: What am I thinking of? What the Dallas was? Fancy? Jr?
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: You ing?
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Dynasty, Dynasty Dynasty. That's what I'm thinking of.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I never watched it, but all those things were
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: also like it depends when you asked me. When I
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: was little and we were living in New York, still
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: before we moved to Texas. This is I don't know,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: age seven, eight, whatever. Every Saturday night we'd watch the
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: love Boat in Fantasy Island in front of the TV.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: I think it was that, and my mom would make
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: us TV dinners or waffles. It was like the best
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: part the night was like think that, am I the right?
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: You know what? I think that childhood When I think
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: back and I remind myself this of my kids now,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: it's that it's the simple things that you really do remember.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: You don't remember like if something cost a ton of
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: money or how fancy it was. You remember just feeling
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: safe and the things that made you feel safe were
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: the things that made you feel the best. You know. Yeah,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: yeah it was yeah, I mean it was such. It
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: was just a simpler time. It really was without camera.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Although I do like knowing where my kids are and
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: being able to reach them, I do. I love that
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: there were no phones around and there were no cameras everywhere,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: and you.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Just think, like that probably back then though you weren't
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: thinking like how do I reach them? It was there
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: in the neighborhood they were playing or you know, I
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know, But.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Like, moving to Texas was such culture shock for me
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: because again I was at that kind of they're all
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: kind of pivotal ages. But I was nine years old
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: and we were plunk down right in the middle of Sugarland, Texas,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: and I just remember missing Long Island so much, probably
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: much like you missed Staten Island. Like for me Long
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I my parents were divorced when I was three, but
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: my cousins were there, and I had always just wanted
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: to go back. I think that's why I probably ended
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: up moving so quickly back to New York City after
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: I graduated college.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I just was like it always felt like my home.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: And it's funny because I've never been back to Houston
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: since I left after I graduated college, and it feels
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: like New Jersey is my absolute home. Like I've spent
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: more time here than anywhere else, and this is I
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: just keep looking at my extension sticking out no time
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: to get the movie.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Can I tell you two things that I was obsessed
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: with and growing up archie comics. I would wait until
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: I think they were released every Tuesday or Thursday, and
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: my dad would take me to the store and I'd
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: buy every single one and I would just devour them.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: And actually, the very first time that I was published
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: was in an archie comic. I was just a kid.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: They had this like writing contest in the back, and
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: I wrote an article and sent it in and they
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: published that in the back of an Archie comic and
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I was I felt so high. I was so excited.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: And then in high school, actually, I don't know if
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I ever told you this, I was and I still am.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I just don't talk about it, but absolutely obsessed with
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: the Beatles. Like every inch of my room was covered
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: in Beatles posters. I wore this jacket I still have it.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: That was an airbrush picture of John Lennon. On the
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: back was a turquoise jacket and it had I had.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I would cover it in pins. I would just go
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: to vigage stores all day. I'd go to Beatlemania twice
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: a year. My mom would just drop me off at
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: the meadle Lands Hotel and I would just roam around
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: all day and all I wanted to be was a hippie,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: and I just I knew every word of every Beatles song.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I knew how to play every song on the piano.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: It brought me a lot of comfort. I was very
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: lonely in high school, super lonely, and the Beatles were like,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: as long as I had them, I didn't care. I
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: think I just needed something to escape into. But I
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: to this day absolutely love their music. That is that's
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: so interesting because I like something that was so important
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: to you right back then, that you were so obsessed with,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: and I mean now I don't even know that about you. Yeah,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I had a lot of that, of course.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I mean I remember going to certain movies like Footloose,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: my sister too, and when it was over we were
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: we would cry that Kevin Bacon wasn't our boyfriend? Or
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: how about Sound of Music? Were you a Sound of
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Music girl?
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Not really? So? Sound of Music was.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: My all time instill is my all time favorite movie,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: and I watched it, but they didn't. There was no
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: such thing until I was probably in high school. We
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: didn't even have forget about like, we didn't have Netflix,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: we didn't you weren't able to watch that movie until
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: it came out on your network TV once a year
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: at Christmas time, right, well, speaking of I was a
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Blockbuster video that was like but I remember just oh
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: it was the.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Smell of a video store. Oh my god, I loved it.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I love the smell of like the paper boxes. And
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: then you had to ask for the video, but like, no,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: if the movie was in stock, the black cassette was
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: behind the box, and it was so exciting to like
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: see the movie you wanted and then the video was
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: actually there. Yep. That was the best in sant Island.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: It was called selective video. And then Blockbuster took over everything.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: But you know what, I remember so much, like these
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: sounds were like the most exciting for me was the
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: intro of an HBO movie when you were a kid,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: and it was like you go from like a living
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: room and suddenly the camera's like soaring over a neighborhood
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: and then it goes up into the sky. Do you
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: remember this? And it's like the Superhero music? And I
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: don't remember there being HBO when I was little. Yeah,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: And then like the big silver HBO letters were like
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: turning in the sky and then they burst into like
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: a technicolor. You don't remember that it was like like
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: a punch of fucking wall. It was so excited to me. Yeah,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: it was the best.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, I remember which which studio is with the
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: roaring let the Roaring Lion. Oh mgm mgm like that
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: those those are you know. That's back when I was
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: a kid. We were watching Wizard of Oz, which was
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: could have watched it all day every day. Sound of
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: music was my absolute, absolute favorite. And again like you
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: had to wait for the holidays for this stuff to
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: come on.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: You couldn't just And speaking of the holidays, I used
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: to call that one. There was a one eight hundred
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: number for a one nine hundred number, sorry, which charges
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: a lot of money for Santa, and I was like
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: the only little Jewish girl in my neighborhood. Instead, I
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: never was Italian, and I would just call Santa over
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: and over and over. I didn't know that I was
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: racking up. That is so cute. That is so cute.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: I don't remember my childhood phone number, by the way,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I don't remember my kids' names half the time, but
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: I remember childhood phone number.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: You want to say it or maybe it's uh, maybe
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: you don't want to No, No, it was somebody nine four, eight, eight,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: five six one.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I doubt it's anyone. Sorry, I remember the numbers.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: And I said this to my family the other day
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: of this guy who I dated right before Jeff, And
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: like I, I don't know why I will always know
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: his phone number.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: It's very strange. I couldn't remember. I can tell you
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: anybody else childhood phone number, his cell number, No, his
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: his office number. We don't you think it was cell phones? Oh?
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: And we have done here? And what do want to say? This?
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: You watch?
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: This is what it was Happy Days, love Boat and
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Fantasy Island.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I really I watched Saturday Nights, but
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I was a little young for it. I liked it,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I didn't love it. I loved stupid shit, Like what
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: was the spin off of The Cosby Show with Lisa
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Bonett where they went to college?
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: The college college. Yeah, it was Lisa Bonet. It was
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Lisa Bonett. I wasn't into that different.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Different world. Oh it was so good? Oh is not
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: my thing so good?
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Back then there were so many like when I think
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: about Happy Days, you don't watch your first concert, not
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: really with all things, I want a concert on the radio.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: And it was yes, And I didn't even know their
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: music at all. But when I won, I remember, I
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: know the days the radio would have a contest and
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: you'd have to pick up your phone and call and
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: call and call and call and call.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: And I won it.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: For me, it didn't matter what it was. I remember screaming,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that I won. Oh, and then back
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: you probably were, so it was like a whole new
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: wave era. Maybe in the eighties you had some of that,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: but like it was Duran Duran and Boy George. So
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: my high school, we had to collect the most PoCA
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Cola tabs or something and then you could have Duran
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Duran come to your school. So we were pretty small school.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: They came and I remember it was as if, I
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: The.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Most incredible. It was like out of body that Duran
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Duran is huge and they're still around. I still kind
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: of hear them sometimes, but that they were coming to
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: our school was it was just everything.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I loved I did love Duran Duran, but they
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: were more like my older sister loved them more. I
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: loved buon Jovi. I had a life sized poster of
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: bun Jovi on my door, my bedroom door, and he
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: was the first concert I went to. And actually I
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: was really really like enthralled by the idea of hookers
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: when I was little, say what and what does that mean?
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Like my parents when they used to
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: take us to see a play in the city and
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: we used to drive down the West Side Highway. I
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: was like my eyes were peeled for hookers. I thought
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: they were the most interesting human beings in the world.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: And like, if I saw a woman standing on the
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: side of the road, I would just ask my parents,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: is that a hooker? She a hooker? And I thought
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: everyone at this Bonnjovie concert, So I was young, and
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: we went with my mom and my mom's friend and
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: her daughter who was a little older, and her daughter
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: had some friends there, and they were dressed in like
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: skimpy clothes, and I thought all the women there were hookers.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I just I just was so intrigued by the idea
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: of hookers.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: I went on a teen tour I guess I was
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: high school, and we went to Amsterdam and they had
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: the red Light District, and I remember that being the
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: most that we went to, like five countries and five
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: weeks something like ridiculous, And but that was the most.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Maybe like you, I was obsessed with hookers. But that
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: was like the most fascinating part of the whole trip
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: was seen like these women in the windows with their
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: red lights on.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I know. I think because you start to realize, like
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: when you're home, you feel like everyone is like you, right, yeah,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: and then when you step outside and you start to
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: realize there's a bigger world out there, everything is just
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: so interesting. Yeah. Yeah, But I loved I loved bon Jovie.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I loved Debbie Gibson so much. Oh my god, Debbie
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Gibson everything about her, her perfumes, her music. And she
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: was young. I think she was like.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Around I had like share Barbie dolls like I was
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: like that was my generation I was.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: I had Michael Jackson trading cards. Did you have? Oh god,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I love them. I had Michael Jackson trading cards everywhere
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: all over my room. And the clothing. See this is
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: why I hoard my clothing now, is because I wish,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: but I want nothing more than my fucking hot doggers
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: back did you ear hot doggers? But it's like this
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: parachute material fluorescent jumpsuit.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I remember when I'd go to Long Island would buy it.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: They were called hot doggers, but they were like literally fluorescent,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: like they were like all those different like as bright
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: as you can with that.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: I have a picture of me in mine with my
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: big hair on like a phone with like a spiral
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: cord in my childhood bedroom. It was the best. We
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: had these pants called skids, did you have? I remember, yeah,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I love them. And you used to do French cuff
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: them and wear like four pairs of scrunchy socks with them.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: And then we had everyone wore with like a Champion
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: sweatshirt and it was like the coolest avenage sweashirts was
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: so like hard and stiff. Oh yeah, and used to
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: wear them like in college.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: I was, you know, I was big girl, and the
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: only thing I remember wearing is be you. I started
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: out at Austin like you, but I wear the BU
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: sweatshirts down to my knees with eg's weren't what the
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: socks were those scrunchy eg's at the bottom.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I don't remember if they were egs, but they were
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: like big scrungey socks and you wore like a bunch
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: of pairs like kiled onto each other, big scrunchies.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, such a cat fashion, right, but those things.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: I think I wore one of those to Melissa Gorga
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: is the first. I don't know if that was the
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: first scene, but season thirteen, remember she had that roller
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: skating eighties roller skating party. Yeah, and I think I
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: wore that out, but I wore those like.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I need to go back and look at
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: what you wore. What do you do with all your
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: li like stuff from the show that, like, is not
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: something you could wear again? Throw it out or give
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: it away? Give it away? Do not really throw it out? Yeah,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: you know what I have a problem with. I know
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: this is taking a totally different turn, but like in
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: my closet, if I have things that I wore and
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I had a bad episode, I don't want to wear
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: them again, even if they're Did you watch the after
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: school specials on ABC? Of course? Oh my god? The
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: lead in song to that, if you go back and
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: listen to it, I don't remember it. How did it go?
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Do you remember? It was like instrumental, It was like
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: a trumpet speaking of just songs that opened up you
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: know Schoolhouse Rock? Did you we school House Rock? I did? Yeah.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: I watched a lot of cartoons too, like Sunday morning.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: How about the comics on Sunday morning and cartoons on
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Sunday morning. Like we got so excited.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: I used to take like a mixing goal and put
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: in every single type of cereal that I had, like
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: an entire bucket of milk, and sit one foot from
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: the TV and just watch all more Muppet babies and
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Fraggle Rock and the he Man and Chira. It was
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: just the best. Yeah. I did not know.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: There was no sitting with the big tub of cereal.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: My mother would not have allowed for that. But I
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: just remember like just being so happy. It was Sunday
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: morning and the I'm reading Wendy the comic, like the
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: comic strip.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Did you read Wendy Wendy? I don't remember. I remember
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: we are on such It's so funny the difference eight
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: years can make. I mean Kathy, I mean Kathy, excuse me,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: excuse me? I met Kathy. Yes, my god, I can't. Yes,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: it was about so comics.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: I think the comics are gone. There are comics, they're
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: they're in your phone. I mean the comics are all yeah, right, yeah,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: I mean it's did you ever try to get your
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: kids to watch the movies that you watched, and.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: I'm so I've always been so frustrated.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: It's so at Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Willie Wonka
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: in the Chocolate Factory.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: I beg them so they don't love it the way
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: that you did, and then it's such a disappointment. I know.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: I was like that too. Like my dad used to
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: get so excited to show me movies and I would
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: watch them and be like, I like, I don't want
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: to be watching this, Like I know his favorite movie
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: of all time is Blazing Saddles, and like I just
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: didn't think it was that funny. And also it's really
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: like insulting and like it's not like today. It would
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: never fly and I just couldn't. I couldn't wrap my
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: head around it. He used to love Bridge on the
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: River Qui and like it just didn't care.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, yeah, that would have been a lot.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: But I remember wanting my kids to watch everything from
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Pippy long Stocking to Pete's Dragon, Sound of Music, Willie Wonka,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: like all of these that had they have such a
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: place in my mind and heart, you know, and it
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: was such an escape also, right, Like it wasn't like
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: you could always go get into your bed and put
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: on Netflix. It wasn't like that. It was very special
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: when you were like very into a TV show and
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: you had to wait all week for it to come around,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: or a movie and you actually had to go to
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: the movie theater, and you know, it was such a treat.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Although I will tell you my kids do love the
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: original Karate Kid, but I showed them so does my husband.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Do you know that Jeff Fessler watches Cobra what is
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: it called Cobra Kai, Cobra Kai?
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, episode em same movies over and over and
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: over again. And I just read something that said that anxious.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: He doesn't have anxiety, like one of the very few
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: people I know that without anxiety. But I heard that
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: anxious people watch the same things over and over again
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: because they know the outcome and it makes them feel safe.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense to me. However, this
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: man will watch the Shawshank Are you talking about Evan? Yeah,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have anxiety, but he will watch certain movies
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: like I think he must have seen this. He watches
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: the Showshank Redemption probably on a weekly basis. I mean
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: it's also on TV like every week by amazing movie.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: But I don't know. I watch it every watches it NonStop.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Anything with Will Ferrell, he's seen a hundred times. That man,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's He's probably the funniest human I've
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: ever been. Love of real life? Do you watch?
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: I definitely watch sitcoms on like TikTok like now because
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: obviously because the algorithm, like it's a constant barrage of
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Curb Your Enthusiasm and Seinfeld and so even shit's creak like.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Those are the things that I when I'm like laying
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: in bed at night, I don't want anything too intense.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I like for all that, Like it's true, you know
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: how it's going to end. There's something comforting about it, right.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you watching now? Are you watching White Lotus? Yes?
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: I'm not that thrilled with it, though, Are you really
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: I like it? I'll tell you. I love the storyline
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: about the three friends. Yeah, of course, that's the only one.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: The problem that with this season's White Lotus to me
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: is that it's dark. But it's not. I don't it's
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: nothing else. It's like the other the other season. I
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: feel like they're planting the seed.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: No I know, but the other seasons were also funny
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: or also touching in some way or a lot about
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: like just dynamics people's relationships. I get that that is
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: sort of with but like between the father that's so
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: uptight because he's about to get busted for I don't know,
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: fraud or mondy whatever he did. And then there is
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: then there is the family and wait, there's the family
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: with the father, and then that kid, the younger kids whatever,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: the three girl. I like watching the three girls. Then
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: there's oh, then there's the guy with the snakes. Yes,
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: and it's just like I feel like it's yes. I
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: feel like I'm always like on the edge of my
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: seat now with White Lotus. Whereas like there were breaks
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: from it when Jennifer Coolidge would just be Jennifer Coolidge
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: and you would it was so much fun to watch.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like I'm having fun watching it this season. Well,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: I know season I thought season one was okay. I
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: think season two of White Lotus is one of the
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: best shows I've ever seen in my life. Really felt
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: like I was in Italy. Yeah, I loved it. I
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: love it.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: And also that's the other piece of it is that Thailand, right,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: it's in Thailand this season, which is so beautiful, but
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: they just haven't set everything looks so related and scary.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Yes it does. I will say, you don't see as
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: much of the beauty of Thailand as I would have hoped,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: But I'm gonna give it some time. I did not
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: watch the latest episode yet, so I have did you
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: watch last night? I have to watch that. I didn't.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Also, I think Real Houses of Atlanta was then on
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: last night the premiere episode.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: So did you watch? No, but I will. I don't
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: watch that many of them anymore. I don't know. I
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: don't know why I do. I do. I love Potomac,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't want. I watched OC and Potomac. I didn't
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: watch anything else. I don't love Beverly Hills this season. No,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: we don't. It's okay, I don't know.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: I'm just a little bored. Yeah, okay, I like the
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: new Dree, but yeah, I'm not I'm not as into it.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Is she different now that she's getting
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: divorced Lauritu, Yeah, she's very different this season. That's like
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: the whole kind of theme of it is Dreek comes
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: back with a vengeance, so she sort of was you know,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: the villain for the past few seasons, and now she's like,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not having it. You and the train you rode
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: in on, and she's like lighting her cigarette in the
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: car and like kind of fun to watch. Well, you
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: know what, we maybe we'll do a pop culture episode
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: of like today's stuff, like what we consider the best
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: today and the movies and the TV shows. But really
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: my expertise is not like the nineteen eighties pop culture.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Oh man, I just spent so many hours just watching
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: TV and watching movies over and over. Flash Dance and
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: the Slash and everything was just so amazing, and I
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: just I loved all like the character. I just Molly
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Ringwald gave me so much hope that I could be
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: yes my own back. I saw that they're getting together.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Did you see that that the oh say, Almost Fire
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: cast is about to get together or something? There reuniting
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: a breakfast club sane almost Fire.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: All of those loved it. Andrew McCarthy, there was like
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: no one cuter than him. Not to me, I had
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: never could I never got the Andrew McCarthy thing. Really,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: it was Rob Low.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Rob Low, Rob Low, that's like the only gorgeous but
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: he's still a little Amelio Estevez. Yes, loved Judd Nelson,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: such good movies. Yeah, I know, this was really fun.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Let's do a pop culture of today for another episode.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: There's one question I know that we wrote down that
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, is very interesting.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: There's one thing about your childhoo. I mean, this is
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: kind of a deep question that you would change. What
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: would it be?
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Oh God, which I actually I.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Think I probably thought of that question because it's kind
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: of stupid, but because there's like so much stuff looking
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: back that you would maybe think this was a sad time,
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: this was a tragic, traumatic, you know, period of time.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: But the truth is now we are who we are
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: because of those things that happened. I definitely wouldn't change
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: the fact that we moved around.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I moved not only to Sugarland, then I moved to
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Greater Houston. Then we like.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: But I feel like today I am at any given moment,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: I could move and I would. I love New Jersey
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: and I love where that my kids got to grow
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: up in the same town and this is places or
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: you know, this is really where our roots are. But
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: I always felt like, if let's say Jeff got transferred,
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: it wouldn't throw me that much I could make it work.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: And I think that part of that was being such
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: a fish out of water. I mean you probably felt
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: that way from Staten Island to Jersey. But like, there
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: are things that were so uncomfortable and sad. But again,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, as long as we're here to talk about them,
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: I guess a lot of nostalgia.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I had a really miserable high school experience,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: and I think even though it shaped me, it did
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: traumatize me, and pieces that that are still definitely left over.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: I think I would have oh, well, god, I wish
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: I would have learned that dieting is not all or nothing.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: I really had no role models when it came to
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: health eating, and so when I decided that I wanted
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: to lose weight, I like really did unhealthy things. And
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: I think I would go back and maybe.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: Well, everybody in my family was we are all it
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: was all about weight all the time.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: We need everybody about that. Yes, all right a lot,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: but all right, this was so much fun. I love that.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go back and watch some old TV.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Now I feel like nostalgic, But this was fun when
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: I was young, Yes, But all right, guys, I hope
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: you enjoyed it. We will see you next time. Yeah.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: I was like Sunday, Monday, Happy Days, Tuesday, Wednesday, Happy Days.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Alright you guys, Bye bye bye m m hm