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Is Humanity Becoming an Endangered Species? Kevin Dolan Seems to Think So! | Maintaining Frame 63 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Hello everybody, and welcome on Honey Badge Radio. My name is Brian.
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  I'm here with Alison and this is maintaining frame number sixty three. Is humanity
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  becoming an endangered species? Kevin Dolan seems to think, so we're gonna be
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  looking at UM it's a it's an audio only interview, but I'll probably still
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  display the screen of something called the Tom Woods Show. Tom Woods is he's
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  like a political commentator. Um, I believe he's libertarian. Correct me if
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  I'm wrong. I don't really, you know, watch his stuff very often.
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  I've heard the name circulating. And he has a special guest on UM
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  who is discussing. Um, the special guest is discussing what they're calling a
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  demographic implosion. So the the guest is Kevin Dolan, and he is a
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  Columbia University. UM. Oh, I'm sorry, that's a spawn thing.
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  I'm sorry, he but he is. He is a Harvard I think it
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  doesn't matter. So he did. He has some studies. I think he
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  talks a lot about finance normally, but he is talking about demographics today because
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  we are, despite people saying that, you know the earth is overpopulated or
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  whatever, we're actually heading for potentially a massive demographic collapse, and they're trying
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  to figure out why is this happening. Why aren't men wifing up these women?
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  You know, we will, we will look at that. So,
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  yes, we're gonna look at that. And one of the reasons why I
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  think this is an economic issue is because, well, for a while now,
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  we've been selling the labor of our children and our grandchildren, which won't
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  exist. At some point somebody's you know, the payment has to come do
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  A's like, yeah, it's basically basically the people in the West have been
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  you know, we're in a hotel room and we're signing all the cost of
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  our extravagant living, our extravagant uh you know programs where we're basically signing the
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  cost to the room of of our children because we're just signing it. You
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  know, you know how you get room service, then you signed it.
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  We're just signing it to them. But there are no children. Yeah,
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  and so at some point the concierge is gonna be like, concierge is gonna
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  be like, um wait this this these people do not exist. You are
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  charging this to people who do not exist. Yep. And and then then
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  we're screwed. I do not know if this analogy helped, because I'm terrible
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  about them. We'll we'll get into it more. But uh yeah, it's
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  it's going to feel pretty daunting. I'll just say that. And at least
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  I think that there's still a chance to reverse course. And I know there
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  are some groups of people like the Amish that will probably be fine. Um,
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  but yes, it's it's not good son, Yeah, yeah, it's
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  not good. Well, I mean, you know, and the Mormons they're
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  having a lot of kids too, So I hope you're I hope you you
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  got your ten speed and your sleeveless collared shirt or like shortsleep collared shirt ready,
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  because that seems to be that they seem to be the ones doing the
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  best. But let's let's get into the video before we do, though,
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  Guess what day it is? Guess what day it is? Oh crap,
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  I'm carrible at this. Uh what day it is? No? No,
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  I'm no, you don't say that. I'm quoting from an old Geico commercial,
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  Um, where there's a there's an office and there's a camel walking around
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  the office sing everybody guess what day it is? And Eventually somebody says it's
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  hump Day because it's Wednesday, and the camera goes hump Day anyway, so
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  it's humped It's very very obscure, very obscure. Um, I went along
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  the wrong angle, Mike, Mike, Mike, that's what day it is.
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  Mike. I'm gonna sure you the commercial later if you haven't seen it.
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  It's from a while back, so when guy make funny commercials. But
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  anyway, so I guess, um, why I wanted to ask you is
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  things? Yeah, do the things? Was that what you wanted to ask
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  me? It sounds like you were a little disappointed. There, No,
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  no, no, do the things, because what I'm gonna ask you has
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  to do with the video or the audio. It's really it's a YouTube video,
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  but there's no video component. It's just audio. Okay, all right,
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  Well we could always look at his lovely face, his his his classic
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  libertarian appearance is Does that? Does that sound like I'm throwing shade? No,
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  I'm just I'm just saying. You know, libertarians, they look like
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  economic economists, often variations of the monopoly man. Yeah, okay, So
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  sure that we continue to be here to be baffled by you. Yes,
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  all right, okay, all right, So before we get into it,
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  I'll put the image on the screen. I do have a couple of different
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  links that we can also look at that are related. Um, I'm just
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  saying libertarians often look like bankers and yeah economists, you know, yeah,
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  and that quality. I've seen Tom Woods around again. You know, he's
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  fine with me. I don't have any beef for libertarians. Sometimes I think
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  that they are let's say, a bit um unrealistic and so because this like
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  the world we live in now. But uh, that's okay, I get
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  it. Like I am libertarian in let's say, in theory, perhaps not
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  in practice, so I mean somewhat yeah for sure. A dog right ideally,
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  yeah, ideally I would would earn earn your earn, your earn your
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  keep. Well yea, yeah, I mean he's a hurting dog that has
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  nothing to hurt. That's why he hurted Mike all weekend because he didn't have
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  everyone else to hurt, so he was hurting Mike. Really, yeah,
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  he was hurting Mike. Yeah, like he would like Mike would get up
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  and go to the bathroom, or he'd go get a drink, or he'd
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  go out for a cigarette or something like that. And then when he would
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  and Jojo would follow him and like be right behind him. And then when
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  he would come back, joo A barkin him to move to make him go
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  back to his seat. Um, and I mean she did. Sure,
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  I'm sure doctor randomer Cam really enjoyed that. Well, I mean he doesn't.
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  He didn't mind Jojo. I said, Look, JoJo's harmless, but
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  he's a dog that has an instinct to work. And there's nothing I don't
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  own any land. I don't have any you know, cows or anything.
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  So he has to hurt people. He hurts me and lindsay all the time.
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  We get used to it. And then as soon as he sits down,
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  jo climbs up and into his lap and just lays there. So,
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  um, well I got one of those two. Yeah. In fact,
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  I think I think mine might even be on steroids relative to yours. Yeah,
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  maybe, but but but yeah, we gotta handle on it. Um,
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  little instances of craziness. But there you go. Yeah, well they're
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  they're both shepherd dogs, so yeah, yeah, mine is pure shepherd.
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  Your shepherd plus shepherd plus hound, so a hunting instinct and a hurting instinct.
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  Yeah. Yeah, it's gotta be some interesting times, all right,
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  want to do a shout out to the great outdoor or indoors sorry, the
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  great indoors who suggested this topic and also donated or supported us to the tune
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  of five hundred dollars. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did this last
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  month too. He's like, yes, I would like your opinion on this
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  topic. Yeah, I will support you if you if you do give us
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  your and that's fine. Like if somebody sends us something is like, I'm
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  interested in your opinion on this topic and I'll support you if if you if
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  you do a stream on it, as long as it's not insane. Um,
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  you know, that's that's fine. It's it's there's a difference between I
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  want your opinion on this thing and if you don't have this opinion, I'm
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  going to withdraw your support. Is that something I had to deal with last
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  week or this week? Yeah? Fun, No, I think it's actually
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  it's a subject, this particular subject. I brought this up myself a couple
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  of times because there's another video that's probably why he was thinking about it.
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  Yeah, there's another video that I watched from a YouTuber named Tom Billieu who
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  does a bunch of different interviews. He's also the guy that invented the quest
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  bar. You may have heard of the quest bar or seeing it. Um
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  and the woman on that and I have it right here. The woman um
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  uh, it's Shanna Swan and it's it's called population collapse. How modern life
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  is making men and women infertile. There, that's that's sort of like the
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  chemical part of it, and that's true, but it's more than that.
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  It's also the social part of it, which will we will get into um
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  and it is. It is an existential crisis that people are starting to notice.
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  Yeah, infertility, Like, honestly, if you get if you had
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  a good swath of people pairing up and wanting kids, infertility probably would be
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  a minor issue. Yes, I mean yeah, Like, I mean,
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  it's not like we have to have ten children each just to have two of
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  them survive infancy. You know. So if you're if you're female, can
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  only conceive like three times, you're you're pretty much set in this world.
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  Yep, um, and I just used the word female. We're would be
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  like, oh, I internalize mislogity. Oh yeah, yeah I saw that.
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  I saw that. Uh yeah, yeah, I'm not interested. Don't
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  care. Those people are stupid. Um, we're talking about important things now,
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  So okay, yes, So anyway, let's get into the video.
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  So here's my question. I don't think I need to use any filters because
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  there's no video component. But do you want me to play this at fast
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  speed or slow speed? Mmm? Because last time you want to speed.
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  But we're not exactly They're not saying anything particularly contentious. So can I just
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  listen to his accent and make a decision, you know, honestly if this
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  American sense basically, So, I think I think we'll probably be fine with
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  copyright with this individual. I think he's probably sensible enough to realize that having
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  his icon and his channel plastered on another channel is probably a good thing.
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  So I think I think probably we'll have fine with copyright. But just let
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  me hear him so I can give you an absolute answer whether or not I
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  can understand him. Okay, So I'm gonna play it and just listen if
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  you're if you're ready, I'm gonna play it now. In terms of we
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  could talk in depth about the economic consequences of this, but just in terms
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  of the raw numbers and the consequence is going to have on demographics. Korea
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  right now has a has a zero point seven eight total fertility rate, meaning
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  that undercurrent conditions, if those conditions were to hold throughout a woman's lifetime,
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  the number of kids she would end up having is point seven eight, so
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  less than one child per woman. And the way that cash is out from
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  a generational perspective is that for every one hundred living Koreans, there will be
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  six great grand children. All right, this is why it's an issue,
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  right, You're projecting forward a few generations, and yeah, South Korea is
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  the worst. So, like, there's a guy that is in South Korea
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  that I've been talking to on Steam. He was in one of our live
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  chats for a show. I think it was for the New Show maybe,
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  and because we were discussing South Korea. In the new show, there was
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  a story about women's parking spaces, and um, he was telling me that
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  there's a big, you know, problem with demographic implosion, and we knew
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  about this, and he mentioned Japan too, that you know, the Japanese
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  problem was something that got me into this whole conversation to begin with. Years
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  ago, like way before I knew about Honey Batchet Radio, I was having
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  a conversation with a friend of mine and he was talking about have you ever
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  heard of the herbivore man? And I was like no, and that I
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  mean, it's a problem in Japan. It was a really big problem,
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  although they are beginning to address it, so it's less of a problem than
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  it was. But now South Korea. But it's not only those places,
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  it's everywhere. It's everywhere. Okay, so let's let's continue. Which is
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  I mean, that's not comparable to the smallpox epidemics in the New World,
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  It's not comparable to the Black Death. It's the most dramatic and drastic population
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  collapse maybe in human history, and it's going to happen over three generations.
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  That's Korea. Japan is a little bit ahead of them. I think their
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  fertility rate is like one point something. It's very very low, and so
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  that means maybe nine or ten great grandchildren Europe and all right, I'm pausing
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  there. What do you think about this speed? This is normal, This
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  speed is good. There's something a little bit overdriven about his the way he's
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  talking. I think if you move it faster, it's going to just be
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  too confusing. Sure, I'm sorry, Like I am absolutely terrible with my
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  with audio. Well that's fine. I mean I have a lot of time
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  code, so yeah, yeah, I just I just don't want that's really
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  stark though, Like just the way that he put it, A hundred one
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  hundred people will have six grandchildren. And for the people who are like really
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  excited about oh oh climate change, the truth is that we have like humans
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  have less of an impact on their environment when they are a larger population.
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  I mean people don't know this, but well, you are the carbon they
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  want to reduce. Yeah, I know, but yeah, but the thing
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  is it's not it's going to probably be again see population collapse, economic collapse
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  human like human social collapse would be the biggest ecological disaster on the planet um
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  because we wouldn't be able to continue to manage all of the technologies that keep
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  us alive and are at a point where if they deteriorate or degrade rapidly,
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  they will cause a huge amount of economic earths or ecological devastation. Look at
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  all the derailments and the explosions that are happening. That's probably just as a
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  result of losing a certain amount of blue collar expertise. But imagine losing like
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  ninety percent of it, how much things won't be able to be maintained.
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  Nuclear plants, coal plants, chemical facilities, trains. And the other thing
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  is that at some point, if our ability to sustain ourselves breaks and our
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  supply line is so damaged that we that people can't get a reliable source of
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  food, human race will flood out of the city's like locusts and eat everything
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  in the environment. It'll be horrific. So no, this is this is
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  an ecological catastrophe as well as a demographic catastrophe and an economic catastrophe. This
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  is not what we want. What we want is to get people innovating,
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  get people thinking about these problems, plant trees for God's sake, and at
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  least keep our population stable. Yeah, all right, and that means that
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  we'll be able to continue to manage all of the Pandora's box that we've opened
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  up without killing the rest of the planet and we will potentially be able to
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  solve some of the long term problems. We need not less people, but
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  at least the same amount of people. And that's the really frightening thing.
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  Yeah, like we are at the point where the world won't survive without people.
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  Yeah. Oh no, I mean, yeah, you're right. I
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  mean you know this. And the thing is is that most of the stuff
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  coming from the not just the environmentalist but like all these people, the feminists,
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  etc. It's an anti human, anti natalist sentiment that's coming out and
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  has been for a while. And I know that, you know, as
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  an aside, the Barbie movie is part of that. Um, But you
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  don't like, here's the problem, all right, Okay, when you talk
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  about reducing population, and when you talk about what they're talking about, like
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  getting rid of the ways that we keep ourselves warm and keep ourselves fed and
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  stuff, you realize that at some point when every all of this stuff breaks
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  down, then you're just dealing with the human animal. And you would be
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  these all these people who are sitting in their their their chairs pondering about population
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  reduction. You would be amazed at what people will do to keep themselves fed
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  when they're starving, all right, And imagine, imagine, no matter how,
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  how, how will you plan this die off? At some point there
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  won't be enough of a supply line, enough technology to sustain the remaining humans,
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  and they will flood into whatever's left and strip it bare. You guys
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  are nuts if you think this is the solution, the way forward. And
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  I can't believe that people who think about these things, supposedly ecological catastrophe professionally
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  don't realize that there's no scenario in which people no longer are able to maintain
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  these systems, in which they don't take out the environment with them, either
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  because these systems break down and cause huge amounts of pollution and destruction, or
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  because or and or because when they break down, people need to eat,
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  and they will be desperate and they'll strip the Look at Mexico doesn't have anything
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  larger than a rat anymore, because it's been completely stripped of all its animals.
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  Like that would be a mass extinction event. The death of human civilization
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  will be a mass extinction event on this planet. Why are you inviting that?
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  I mean, I think that. No, I get it, I
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  get it. Look, I've been I've been beating the drum on this for
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  a long time. I get it. But this is why I am.
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  I am at the point now where these people this is what they want.
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  And one of the reasons why is, by the way, spoiler alert,
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  they're not invested in the future because they don't want kids, so they don't
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  care that other people might suffer because it doesn't affect them in the now.
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  So let's to be fair, Like, I don't have kids. You don't
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  have kids, right, No, I know, and we talked about that.
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  But I do care about the future. I care about my brother's kids.
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  I care to about my sister's kids. I care about my brother's kids
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  kids. Um, and I don't have I don't have to have Like I
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  can't have kids, but i'd like to. I'm looking into it, okay,
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  But if I don't, that doesn't mean I'm just gonna say, well
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  fuck it, like as long as I'm taking care of right. But a
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  lot of these people are saying that, So it's not really about whether or
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  not you have children. It's just that that if you're not having kids,
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  And that also means like for many people that don't like are by choice not
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  having children, they're also not invested in anything outside of their own immediate desires
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  because there's no there's no future for them, so they don't care. So
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  I'm not saying that's what you think, or what Lauren thinks or anything,
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  but I'm saying that's what a lot of the people that are promoting this stuff
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  think. Well, I just wanted to point that out. I mean,
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  you can not have children and still care about the future for other people,
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  like and that's that's the distinction I want to make. Yeah, no,
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  I don't, and I know that, you know, people should probably be
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  having kids, But again, sometimes I think it's necessary to have some people
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  who are just you know, they may not have as much skin in the
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  game, so that they can they aren't as clouded by that kind of fear
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  in order to embracing solutions. But regardless, my overall point is this demographic
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  collapse for humanity will lead to ecological catastrophe and probably a mass extinction event on
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  this planet. This is not the way forward. Okay, all right,
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  let's keep going. And the US are very similar in terms of their native
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  born population. They're helped economically, I guess that's debatable, but they're helped
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  in terms of the statistics by migration. And so we are all in this
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  situation where and it's worldwide, and in the West it's the most mature,
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  and it's the most intense at this moment. But if you look at the
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  drift of fertility rates across the world, including Africa, including Latin America,
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  including India and Pakistan, all these places that we think of as like very
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  very populous, very very fertile, all of their TFRs, all of their
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  fertility rates are dropping like a rock, to the point that by twenty thirty
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  the only region of the world that will have positive population growth on Earth is
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  sub Saharan Africa, and by the end of this century they will have fallen
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  below replacement fertility as well. Yeah, this is a big dam problem.
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  Like I can't emphasize this enough. Guys, like we this is the Pandora's
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  box. If we can't maintain our technologies and we can't maintain the ability to
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  feed and clothe and keep ourselves warm and shelter ourselves, it's going to be
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  a disaster for everything on the planet. But that's really also quite interesting.
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  Like I have mentioned that immigration is really what's keying the West propped up at
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  this point, and I've gotten some serious blowback from that. But if you
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  look at it, he's exactly right. If you look at it in terms
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  of the economy, the value that the West is bringing, in particular,
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  the US is bringing to the world appears to be a stable currency, and
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  you need to have people living and paying taxes in that currency. And if
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  your native population is not giving birth the next generation of taxpayers, you have
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  to have immigration. Period. Until you can reverse the situation in which native
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  born Americans are not producing children, you are going to have immigration, and
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  you can't avoid it. There's a problem. There's a problem with that though,
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  because the immigrants that are coming in here, they're not coming here to
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  produce. They're coming in here to take. So they're coming in here and
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  getting welfare. They're coming in here and getting government funded programs which are being
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  paid for by mostly who are native to this country. That's the problem is
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  that we've opened the borders and we have a welfare state. And they talk
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  about that in this video. It's going to implode, like the people who
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  are paying into it are leaving or they they're you know, and the people
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  who are coming here are coming here with their hand open and so like that
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  that's going to expire very fast. So you know, I don't disagree with
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  that. But consider also that even if you're on welfare, you're still moving
• 25:27
  money around in this system like and and it's it's infuriating. And I'm not
• 25:33
  saying that it isn't in just to the people who are native to you know,
• 25:37
  like the people who are paying taxes. It's one percent in just But
• 25:41
  on the other hand, they're still moving money around in this system, even
• 25:45
  if that money is printed and just handed to them. And that's something that
• 25:52
  you know, and all of this is a disaster. Yeah, I'm not
• 25:55
  saying that it is good. I'm just observing the fact that, um,
• 26:00
  if it's a choice between keeping that money moving to keep the value in the
• 26:04
  dollar as a that's because the reason why is because the American economy is so
• 26:11
  big, it's like a gigantic black hole when it comes and that that black
• 26:15
  hole exerts gravity, which is itself the power the usefulness of the dollar in
• 26:21
  the world stage. It's that it's the stable currency. Probably I've got a
• 26:23
  whole bunch of mancaps screaming at me in the distance. But and even if
• 26:30
  people are moving that money around, increasing the gravity using welfare that's still of
• 26:36
  value to the whole system. So again, the only way to unfunck ourselves
• 26:41
  is to keep breeding again. Yeah, it's not ending emigration, that's breeding
• 26:48
  again. Yeah, it's almost like men and women are. That dynamic is
• 26:52
  the most important dynamic, no matter what. It's like the core of everything.
• 26:56
  Yeah, so let's play some more. So you can look at it
• 27:00
  from the cultural and personal perspective, it's just millions and millions of people who
• 27:06
  will be deprived of this very fundamental human experience. But from an economic perspective,
• 27:12
  the consequences are going to be absolutely devastating. I mean, you look
• 27:15
  at Detroit and what essentially happened to Detroit. You could talk about the reasons
• 27:22
  why everybody abandoned Detroit. That's a broader sort of policy conversation, but like,
• 27:27
  ultimately the way Detroit collapsed was the tax base abandoned it. The tax
• 27:33
  base left, and so you had just tens of thousands of vacant homes that
• 27:40
  had been abandoned. You had people scattered across this sort of waste land,
• 27:47
  and like abandoned homes don't keep they fall apart and they get mold and they
• 27:51
  get stripped for the copper and the aluminum. I'm just pausing there for the
• 27:55
  banana. I mean, I know that went long, but I want to
• 28:00
  play more. I don't think it's going to be an issue because I think,
• 28:03
  like Allison said, I think Tom Wood's probably okay with this. But
• 28:07
  I thought it's probably good to pause and say a few things. So that's
• 28:10
  me saying things again. Send us a super I got a super chat from
• 28:15
  John Mannimo for five pounds, and it looks like three hippos underwater, So
• 28:22
  thank you, John Manni move very cute. I don't know what that means,
• 28:25
  but I like it. All right, let's continue. And so even
• 28:30
  the people who chose to stay, the value of their homes collapsed, partly
• 28:33
  because they were surrounded by urban and suburban blight, but also because all of
• 28:41
  our homes and our four own k's and social security and medicare all of the
• 28:45
  models that give us the sense of like what your home is worth, what
• 28:49
  your four own k is worth? Those they are all predicated on reliable economic
• 28:55
  growth, including population growth. And I'll stop in just a second, but
• 28:57
  like, there's only two ways economy can grow right, you can get more
• 29:02
  efficient, more productive per worker, or you can get more workers. And
• 29:07
  currently we're in this situation where productivity per worker is growing, it's sort of
• 29:11
  leveling off, tapering, stagnating, but the number of workers is about to
• 29:15
  drop like a rock. Okay, so yeah, it's bad news. I
• 29:26
  don't know what else to say. You know, so if only if only
• 29:32
  men and women liked each other, I wonder what's keeping them apart. And
• 29:36
  so if these circumstances continue, if this demographic collapse transpires the way it looks
• 29:41
  like it's going to, you will not be able to count on reliable economic
• 29:45
  growth anywhere in the Western world, which means that the way people invest their
• 29:51
  money sort of what the currency does from an inflationary deflationary perspective, all of
• 29:56
  these assumptions will be upended. And as are as I can tell and from
• 30:00
  the people that I've talked to who look at these things, none of that
• 30:04
  is priced in, None of that is being accounted for by policy leaders,
• 30:10
  by investment leaders, like it's just not No one has taken a serious look
• 30:14
  at this, and it's incredibly I would say it's the biggest problem of our
• 30:18
  time, of the next century one thing. All right, So Alison,
• 30:23
  do you want to say anything about that or yes? And I will do
• 30:30
  so, just as I'm okay, sorry about that. I was I was
• 30:33
  muted, and yeah, I was unaware. What I was going to say
• 30:37
  is again, this is not a solution to ecological issues at all. This
• 30:42
  is going to be a massive disaster for the planet as well as us as
• 30:47
  people. We are intertwined like and this is one of the things that's most
• 30:52
  annoying about the zero zero pop people. We're here because as Mother Nature,
• 31:00
  the spaghetti monster evolution made us, and we are now intertwined in this environment.
• 31:07
  It is as reliant on us as we are on it. When we
• 31:11
  disappear, it's most likely going to be absolutely catastrophy. I mean, ultimately
• 31:15
  the Earth will probably recover and evolve new life forms, but for the ones
• 31:21
  that exist now, it's going to be absolutely catastrophic. So we can't just
• 31:27
  just just fall asleep at the wheel. We can't just disappear and expect things
• 31:33
  to work, because as as the generations go, as we forget or are
• 31:37
  unable to maintain ourselves, we are we end up back at the human animal,
• 31:42
  and the human animal will strip the earth to feed itself. And one
• 31:47
  of the things I wanted to mention is that, for example, in Europe
• 31:49
  and in Britain, there has never been more well prior from like like the
• 31:55
  very primediate prime time, primordial times, but the four have actually recovered in
• 32:00
  those areas from medieval and prior farming practices which were slash and burn. So
• 32:07
  current modern technology, the more technology, the better we get at shepherding our
• 32:15
  resources and being having a lighter and lighter touch on the world ecologically. And
• 32:22
  this is something that I've heard from a biologist who you know, there's new
• 32:29
  schools of thought about the nature of human impact on the planet, and that
• 32:34
  one of the schools of thought, and it's becoming more evident that this is
• 32:37
  correct, is that the more people there are, the less impact we have
• 32:45
  because the more we can rely on technologies and innovations to minimize our impact and
• 32:52
  to help each other, help feed each other. So the idea that less
• 32:57
  humans is better is wrong. I mean, maybe not significantly more humans until
• 33:02
  we can colonize other worlds, but the same amount is fine. A little
• 33:09
  bit more is fine. It's not going to destroy the earth. We are
• 33:14
  part of this psychology. We have every right to be here, and we
• 33:17
  are wanted here, otherwise we wouldn't have existed in the first place. Wanted
• 33:22
  in so far as you can describe that kind of anthropomorphic attitude to probably on
• 33:28
  a force of nature. But we are every much is wanted as I don't
• 33:35
  know the bald eagle or the porpoise or any other charismatic animal. Right,
• 33:39
  we were meant to be here. We have every right to be here,
• 33:43
  and we are now a part of this world inextricably. And if we die,
• 33:47
  it dies, and again it'll probably recover in a couple million years.
• 33:52
  But who wants that. Okay, So let's just just be a little bit
• 33:57
  happier about ourselves and our exist We're not a fucking virus, We're not a
• 34:02
  cancer. We just are what we are, and we came from this place.
• 34:08
  We came from this psychology. We are the children of this psychology.
• 34:15
  It's ours and we are it like, and what I'm talking about is that
• 34:20
  We'll go ahead, Brian, I was just gonna say we're part of nature,
• 34:22
  like it's not. You know, these people will treat humans like we're
• 34:25
  some separate creature that doesn't belong here. We are part of the system.
• 34:30
  And yes that you know that. I don't think these people are ignorant.
• 34:36
  I don't think these people are stupid. I think this is on purpose.
• 34:38
  I think they're they hate us, they hate themselves, they hate humans for
• 34:44
  existing, and they want us gone. That's why they make arguments like the
• 34:47
  planet is overpopulated. People live and die, that are born and die every
• 34:52
  day, that number mostly stays the same. We are not even close to
• 34:58
  maximum capacity. I don't think and I don't think that any evidence bears that
• 35:02
  out. So but but these people, I'm not naming names because it's it's
• 35:08
  more like an idea or a value. This attitude, because attitude, Yeah,
• 35:15
  this thought pattern is make is making it to where we are not forming
• 35:21
  families and we are not having children. And I we're going to get into
• 35:23
  that later in this video, because it's not simply because no one wants them,
• 35:30
  Okay, And I mean, just to just conclude my thought, if
• 35:34
  if there is no intention in the earth, like honestly, if you're just
• 35:37
  going to say that it's just material, then the only morality is a human
• 35:45
  morality. Like if you're going to say that a rock is more important than
• 35:50
  a human, an unconscious animal is more important than a human. No,
• 35:55
  that's one hundred percent wrong. So if they're if they're is no intentionality to
• 36:00
  nature, like if there's no gaya like the Guia hypothesis, which you know,
• 36:06
  I'm a bit of a wu person, so I might I might be
• 36:08
  okay with with suggesting that there is maybe not an intention that we can understand
• 36:15
  or a consciousness that we can really comprehend, but maybe there is an attention
• 36:19
  to the ecology that we exist within. But if there is, then it
• 36:23
  wanted us. And if there isn't, then we have to put humans first,
• 36:30
  because we experience, we have consciousness, you know, we we we
• 36:37
  connect to others, connect to other beings. I mean, we're the only
• 36:42
  creatures on the planet that are quite what we are, which is very capable
• 36:47
  of sympathy and empathy with almost anything, okay, and which is probably where
• 36:52
  a lot of this is coming from. This this thought pattern is having this
• 36:57
  kind of this fearful empathy about the ecology, the mind that we exist within,
• 37:01
  the ecological mind we exist within, is being destroyed. Well, if
• 37:07
  you allow for some kind of intentionality like that, I mean, if there
• 37:12
  is no intentionality, then again, it's just base material, and I'm not
• 37:15
  going to put base material ahead of something that does have consciousness human race.
• 37:21
  Okay, But if there is some kind of intentionality, and again I'm okay
• 37:24
  with that, because I'm wu it chose us, it selected us, it
• 37:31
  created us for a reason, I'm just gonna say, God, that's okay
• 37:37
  with you. Guys, don't get triggered. But um yeah, yeah,
• 37:45
  they're saying, you know, but anyway, let's play some more. I
• 37:51
  think when you made a presentation in the School of Life group on this,
• 37:53
  that I guess I hadn't realized was that immigrants into the US have also leveled
• 38:00
  off in terms of reproduction and fertility, because what you hadcurred for a long
• 38:06
  time was well, one way that the United States is not as vulnerable as
• 38:09
  other countries is that it's got all this immigration, but the immigrants, apparently
• 38:14
  two are barely at replacement level. Even if you set aside the social cohesion
• 38:19
  problems. If you have a society with a huge, huge number of native
• 38:24
  born retirees who have health problems that need to be paid for by people who
• 38:30
  feel absolutely no fellow feeling with them, and that that is a that's a
• 38:35
  major major problem. But even if you put it aside, is it the
• 38:37
  case that the US, even with immigration, is barely hobbling along. Yep,
• 38:45
  that's what That's the These are the problems with immigration. If if we
• 38:52
  had a at least in the United States, a more cohesive culture of of
• 39:00
  people who can be from wherever, but they're willing to come here and be
• 39:06
  contributing members to society, then I think we'd be in a much better place.
• 39:12
  But instead we have we have set think or the government has set things
• 39:15
  up to where immigrants are being let in and they're telling us it's good for
• 39:20
  GDP, which is just like some you know word that they just throw out
• 39:23
  there and it's supposed to make us happy. But the truth is, not
• 39:27
  only do they feel no kinship to Americans, but they're here. A lot
• 39:30
  of them come here to take from us, and the people, the men
• 39:35
  who are paying into the system to support people, they're they're not having kids,
• 39:40
  or they're not having as many kids, or they're they're basically dying alone.
• 39:45
  And so that is an unsustainable, unsustainable model. Even with immigrants who
• 39:51
  are also there are men among them who are also going to run into these
• 39:54
  problems. M Well, I want I want to point out a so like
• 40:00
  UM, some of the some of the staunchest in terms of the immigrants,
• 40:05
  UM and what's destroying UM social fabric. There's a hell of a lot of
• 40:10
  social fabric destruction happening just in house when it comes to UH. And again,
• 40:16
  I'm not talking about the LGBTQ who just want to freaking live their lives
• 40:22
  and be left alone. I'm talking about the crusaders. And to be honest,
• 40:27
  what I'm seeing is that immigrants, Muslim and Latino immigrants are the ones
• 40:31
  who are fighting back the most against that. It's it's a real well yeah,
• 40:38
  I mean if twenty percent of kids are identifying as queer now because their
• 40:44
  teacher told them to or their parents and engineered them and they're like getting hormone
• 40:50
  replacement therapy and purity blockers, guess what, they've been castrated. So that
• 40:54
  is also going to do massive, massive damage to our rep It's horrible.
• 41:00
  So basically we're neutering and spaying our children. Yeah, well, that's been
• 41:07
  frequantastic, all right, But anyone, I just wanted to point out that
• 41:10
  definitely it's the Muslims who are fighting back against that. So in terms of
• 41:15
  social cohesion, it's I think it's a lot more complex than people are being
• 41:19
  brought in and they are not cohesiing, I think we are dissolving our own
• 41:23
  our own fabric. I think that both of those things can be true.
• 41:28
  Yeah, because America is if if like enough Muslims come in here, America
• 41:32
  won't look the same at all. No, it won't look it basically won't
• 41:37
  be America anymore. But it will also won't look the same if Muslisms don't
• 41:40
  come in. To be honest, because there's all the kinds of crap happening
• 41:45
  now and like that. I say that without pulling away from your statement about
• 41:51
  we need to have a strong central identity, a strong sense of shared purpose
• 41:57
  and a shared destiny. We don't necessarily have that. But it's not all
• 42:02
  on the immigrants, because there's a hell of a lot of Native Americans and
• 42:07
  all over the West who seemed to be dead set on destroying any kind of
• 42:15
  fellow feeling. Well yeah, and and and destroying family. Come on,
• 42:20
  I mean, it's really freaking obvious to no. I know, I know
• 42:22
  absolutely it's true. Yeah, people, people have to fight back. Unfortunately,
• 42:27
  Um, when this whole thing started was before we were born. This
• 42:31
  has been going on for that long, and it's basically become normalizing. A
• 42:35
  lot of people started before. Yeah, the fire. I didn't start the
• 42:39
  fire. It was always burdened since the world was turning. But it's it
• 42:43
  started way before we were born. This whole well, I did a whole
• 42:46
  bit on this yesterday, and I don't want to revisit it, but it
• 42:50
  was about political nullification, where you create a group of people or a class
• 42:58
  of person and you say these are the bad people and you drive that home
• 43:01
  into the population over and over and over. And it started with men,
• 43:06
  or at least one of the places it started was with men. And so
• 43:09
  this is how we got to this point. So if you just say if
• 43:13
  a man speaks up, and then the media and the cults they can just
• 43:19
  say, well, that's a man, so we don't have to listen to
• 43:22
  him, and it's shut down. That's how we got there. We used
• 43:24
  to listen to people. We don't do that. If you can say so
• 43:28
  and so is MAGA so, and so is Trump so, and so is
• 43:30
  an in cel so and so is an MRA so and so is a conservative
• 43:35
  everybody. Oh well, we don't have to listen to them. They're the
• 43:37
  bad people. And that's how it works, that's the purpose of it.
• 43:39
  That's why I don't play those games because I'm interested in the truth. So
• 43:45
  that's how we got here. And and everybody, everybody that's bluepilled, nor
• 43:49
  mean, they all go along with it, they mean because again it's what
• 43:52
  they've been told by from everyone. So yeah, and I mean we also
• 43:57
  have to be careful about that with ourselves, like we're talking earlier about those
• 44:00
  people who it's more like a mindset really than a group of people. And
• 44:05
  you know, there's all kinds of reasons why people get into that mindset.
• 44:07
  Maybe it's depression, nihilism, like a sense of lack of there's not a
• 44:13
  lot of of stuff left in our society that gives people a sense of hope
• 44:16
  and a sense of a future. Yeah, and that's not always on the
• 44:20
  individual for succumbing to that, So I mean, I would prefer to refer
• 44:23
  to it as like a pattern of thinking, um, you know, and
• 44:27
  not to get into the habit of just labeling people as things instead of focusing
• 44:34
  on unhelpful patterns of thinking. Perhaps, you know, like I know it's
• 44:40
  it's it's it's tough because it's it's it's sort of easy to get into that
• 44:45
  kind of US versus them, especially since things like I don't know, internalized
• 44:51
  misogyny would never have existed, the concept would never have existed if feminist didn't
• 44:54
  create it. Yeah, anyway, I will get into that. So let's
• 45:00
  let's heart, let's hear some more. Absolutely, so, the US,
• 45:05
  I think, is at one point six one point seven TFR, which is
• 45:07
  not replacement. That's a declining population. Now he's replacement. Two point one
• 45:13
  two point one is replacement. And it's not only declining in terms of absolute
• 45:16
  numbers, it's declining in terms of it's aging and as a population ages,
• 45:22
  it's not just that there are more dependence, is that the dependence per person
• 45:24
  become more costly massive, massive healthcare expenses and living expenses, and so what
• 45:31
  we'll transpire by the end of this Yeah, I wanted to point some things
• 45:36
  out, and also lack of productivity as you age too. The other thing
• 45:42
  that the US is facing is a gigantic productivity decline, the average productivity of
• 45:51
  the worker in the US and most likely across the West. So when I
• 45:53
  say us. It's just that the US is studied. I'm not trying to
• 45:59
  single out Americans. Um, the average American worker is significantly less productive than
• 46:06
  they've ever been. And again it goes back to that lack of a sense
• 46:12
  of shared purpose, a lack of a sense of future. Um, a
• 46:15
  lot of American workers are just laying flat. They're doing the bare minium to
• 46:20
  get by because there's nothing to fight for anymore, and there's nothing to build
• 46:22
  for anymore, you know, And that's that's really unfortunate. And it's something
• 46:30
  else that's a big problem in the economy. If only if only men had
• 46:35
  something to work for, like children or women that love them. Yeah,
• 46:40
  but that's entitlement. Yeah, I'm sorry, my bad in cells. All
• 46:46
  right, let's can't fucking I can you know what? Can I just just
• 46:50
  rant for a moment. I cannot believe the red just the absolute level of
• 46:55
  chosen stupidity, chosen stupidity of these of these arguments that I get into this
• 47:02
  idea that because women are seen as a motivating force for men, so men
• 47:08
  want to have relationships to whip women. In fact, they want it so
• 47:14
  badly that in some cases you can get a young man to strap a bomb
• 47:17
  to his chest and blow himself up, just for the just for the hint
• 47:22
  in the afterlife that he's gonna have seventy two virgins. I don't know what
• 47:24
  the hell you're gonna do with seventy two virgins, but whatever, Okay,
• 47:28
  men are motivated a really big DD game. Oh yeah, really big D
• 47:35
  and D game. It needs to make that as a comic. What are
• 47:44
  you doing with your seventy two virgins? Umhole for initiative? Whole for initiative?
• 47:55
  Okay? Um? All right? Or was I anyway you can motivate
• 48:07
  like the fact that men are motivated by women's company and maybe to raise a
• 48:12
  couple of kids with, but to partner in life, a companion, someone
• 48:16
  to deal with the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune. And you've turned that.
• 48:21
  Feminists have turned that and it is feminist guys like maybe I should call
• 48:27
  them miss dress, missung dress, have turned that into a way of condemning
• 48:30
  men. The fact that men want to be with women is a way of
• 48:35
  condemning them. The fact that men are motivated by a desire to have a
• 48:39
  relationship with the women in participating in your society as a way of condemning men.
• 48:45
  Nobody said that the women aren't consenting, or that they don't also want
• 48:51
  that, or that men want women who aren't consenting. No, just men
• 48:57
  being motivated by haunting relationships with women is some kind of horrible attack on women?
• 49:05
  Are you guys like you mental? And then handed all of this incredibly
• 49:13
  crucially important stuff like this is the center of the chess board for the human
• 49:17
  for human society, the relationship between men and women. Having handed this to
• 49:22
  a bunch of goddamn lunatics who talk about reducing the male population down to ten
• 49:28
  percent and other disgusting things, we just handed it over to them. Oh
• 49:35
  yeah, sure, that crazy eyed cat lady, she'll certainly have something wise
• 49:39
  to say about the relationship between the genders. Arpadarp, Like, why did
• 49:45
  we do this? Did nobody just stop and say, hey, maybe we
• 49:49
  shouldn't hand defining men and women to the radical lesbians. Maybe that's not gonna
• 49:54
  work out for us. That might have some you know, some serious detriment
• 50:00
  downstream. Nobody stopped and thought about that. Very few we were We were
• 50:07
  all programmed to do it, though, I mean I did up until I
• 50:09
  discovered HBr I would have been like just another fucking you know, lemming like
• 50:15
  so many so they just like like really, I'm asking also that Tom Woods,
• 50:21
  the Libertarians, the conservatives, the people who can understand what I'm saying.
• 50:27
  I do understand what you're saying, but I'm trying to tell you that
• 50:30
  Tom Woods also probably would say, well, I think that women did have
• 50:34
  it really hard and you know, so, I mean it's it's everybody's everybody's
• 50:37
  on the same page in terms of this delusion. That's why they're blue pilled.
• 50:42
  So yes, it doesn't it doesn't matter if I'm saying. Saying that
• 50:45
  they are conservative is incorrect because they're not conserving anything because they're just leftists that
• 50:52
  are just like a couple decades behind. That's what I'm saying, because they
• 50:55
  buy into the core. And the reason is because there's no alternative. If
• 51:00
  that's all there is. Yea, let's just stop them. Okay. We're
• 51:05
  facing demographic collapse, which will invariably lead to ecological collapse and a mass extinction
• 51:12
  event. So environmentalists, you're you're not going to get anything out of this.
• 51:16
  It's going to be horrific for everything. All Right, We're facing that
• 51:22
  because people can't recognize that. They shouldn't have listened to the radical lesbian separatists
• 51:31
  when they defined how men and women relate to each other. Okay, this
• 51:37
  is what they said. They said, women's lot has been oppression throughout human
• 51:43
  history. That's what they said. This is their lens. And if you
• 51:47
  adopt that lens, you have decided to hand the definition of men and women
• 51:54
  and the relationship over to people who absolutely despise men. Nothing good is going
• 52:04
  to come of that. Don't go to the crazy lady screaming at individual oxygen
• 52:12
  atoms and the corner and expect to get anything functional about her, about how
• 52:19
  men and women relate from her. And that is what we have done as
• 52:22
  a society. Instead of going to the old wise babushka and saying, oh,
• 52:28
  how how shall we do this? We went to the lunatic in the
• 52:30
  asylum, and we are suffering for it. This is what we're suffering.
• 52:37
  We are seeing the end of days because we went to the lunatics and ask
• 52:43
  them to do the most critical task humanly imaginable, which is to define how
• 52:47
  men and women relate to each other. And if you are not at the
• 52:52
  point looking at the end, you know, like they we're looking at the
• 52:57
  boiling lava, you know, the the boiling sees, the sackcloth, suck
• 53:01
  eye, the red, the black sun. We're looking at this ship right
• 53:06
  now. And at this point you can't say, hey, maybe we shouldn't
• 53:10
  have asked the crazy woman for directions. If you can't say that at this
• 53:15
  point, you are utterly fucking lost. It is time to stop believing the
• 53:22
  crazy women. Okay, it is time to start questioning their assertions and conclusions
• 53:28
  about reality and how men and women relate. And the biggest one you need
• 53:31
  to question, is this nonsense about men ever ever constructing a society that didn't
• 53:39
  put women first for protection and provision. That doesn't make sense evolutionarily, it
• 53:45
  doesn't make sense socially, it doesn't make sense emotionally. It doesn't make sense
• 53:50
  politically. And I'll tell you why, because if that was the case,
• 53:53
  feminism would be an utter failure. Feminism did not create men caring about women.
• 54:01
  It exploited the already existing concern that men have for women. All right,
• 54:09
  stop listening to the crazy women, or we're going into the abyss,
• 54:15
  which I don't think. It's no, all right, no, it's not
• 54:19
  gonna be fun. The century is that for every working age family, every
• 54:23
  working age couple trying to raise kids and iterate and build, they are gonna
• 54:30
  be four adult dependents, which currently the ratio is inverted. The adult dependents.
• 54:37
  By the way, women, I'm just gonna put it out there.
• 54:39
  There's gonna be women in marriages with children paying women that don't want children,
• 54:46
  and then they're gonna be draining them. For every working age family, there's
• 54:51
  one adult dependent in the system. And so it's not a problem that,
• 54:55
  like all, the population will get smaller, like a lot of people compare
• 55:00
  us to wildlife population. See, we only the population crashes and then it
• 55:04
  sort of rebuilds. It's like just probably some point in which it equilibrates,
• 55:07
  but we have no idea where that is. Because the harder it gets to
• 55:13
  have children, and the more that burden falls on a smaller cohort, the
• 55:16
  harder it will be for that smaller cohort to sort of clear the economic hurdles
• 55:22
  that are required to start a family. So this thing is on a positive
• 55:25
  feedback loop. It's getting worse as it gets worse. I'm pausing there for
• 55:30
  the banana again. I also remember you're muted, so if you want to
• 55:34
  jump in, just jump in. But otherwise I'm just going to keep playing
• 55:37
  the video. Do I want to get into the bit where they talk about
• 55:42
  the actual data and what it says about fertility and yeah, to directly address
• 55:49
  the immigration question, It's like Mexico's below replacement fertility, Guatemala is just at
• 55:54
  replacement fertility and dropping like a rock. All of Latin America by twenty thirty
• 55:59
  will be below replacement fertility. And immigrants inside the US their fertility rate is
• 56:05
  two point zero, so almost at sustainable levels, but not at replacement.
• 56:12
  And so I've said the problem with socialism and you run out of other people's
• 56:15
  money. The problem with this is you round out of other people's kids.
• 56:19
  Will you run out of other people's people? Which, but yes, the
• 56:23
  socialism doesn't help, Okay, So like I said, like, let's let's
• 56:28
  just bring this brown down to brass tacks. We're facing We're facing the the
• 56:36
  the end. All right, is it time to start questioning why we start
• 56:42
  questioning the directions of the crazy woman? Is it time to go take a
• 56:46
  look at the absolute squirrely mess of the brain of the average radical lesbian feminist
• 56:54
  and say, hump, maybe everything they say is probably bull shit and we
• 57:00
  shouldn't have believed it. Yeah. Well, I don't know what else to
• 57:07
  say to people. I don't know what else to say to the libertarians,
• 57:10
  the conservatives, the traditionalists. I don't know what else to say to you,
• 57:14
  guys. But you never should have listened to them, and you should
• 57:17
  never have given such an important task as defining the relationship between men and women
• 57:25
  to a bunch of people who hate men, or alternatively are invested in this
• 57:34
  very very lucrative sales pitch that men somehow are hate women. Ye, that
• 57:40
  somewhere somehow men hate women. Okay, you know, at some point,
• 57:46
  if you want to fix this, you got to go to the source of
• 57:52
  the problem. Because I'm like, I don't know how else to say this.
• 57:59
  I think I'm being clear, Alison, I don't know, like what
• 58:01
  you want? We all agree with it? Are you, Brian? What's
• 58:06
  going on? Oh? Wait? What you can't hear me? You guys
• 58:08
  can hear me? Right? Hello? Yes? Hello? Can you hear
• 58:12
  me? Okay? I can hear you know, I can hear Okay.
• 58:15
  So what I did is I what in discord and I reselected the thing that
• 58:17
  was already selected and I could finally hear you. I apologize if I was
• 58:21
  talking over you. No, No, it's okay. I was just saying
• 58:23
  that, you know, you're you're asking if people get it, but I
• 58:25
  mean, like the only feedback you're gonna get it from me, And I
• 58:29
  agree, that's why we're watching this video. Everyone in the world that's watching
• 58:35
  gets it too. I mean, we're all we're all on the same page.
• 58:38
  I just don't think a lot of well, yeah, we're all on
• 58:42
  the same page. So yeah, but the norms are the people who who
• 58:45
  are like, are invested in all of this other politics, still think that
• 58:51
  arguing over immigration, arguing over trans women, arguing over Muslims, which is
• 58:58
  what they did like five years ago. Oh, I still distinctly remember a
• 59:01
  bunch of conservatives telling me are defending the Muslims? Is this the hill you
• 59:06
  want to die on? I'm like, I guess because they're also men,
• 59:10
  you know, like, yeah, sure, and now the Muslims are actually
• 59:16
  might be one small freaking speed bump in the road to destruction, you know,
• 59:25
  one small obstacle as we just head go headlong into the Great Abyss you
• 59:31
  know, and the conservatives were like, oh wow, the Muslims, you
• 59:34
  know, the suddenly they're okay now. But I remember all of this,
• 59:39
  and is it time for the average person or to realize that this politics is
• 59:47
  going nowhere and means nothing. If you don't have control over the center of
• 59:52
  the chessboard, which is the relationship between men and women and how it's defined,
• 59:59
  and if you define in the most miserable, god awful terms of oppression
• 1:00:04
  and hatred, this is what results. And the truth is that demographic collapse
• 1:00:14
  is going to wipe all politics off the board. There's gonna be nothing left
• 1:00:20
  to argue over. Will basically be eating each other. You know, this
• 1:00:28
  is it. This is the central issue, is the relationship between men and
• 1:00:32
  women. If you do not have that, if that is not healthy,
• 1:00:36
  you don't have a society and you don't have a future. Don't give defining
• 1:00:39
  the relationship between men and women over to a bunch of freaking crazy, psychotic,
• 1:00:46
  pedophiliac, beast yellists like degenerate Fox just because they're women. Yeah,
• 1:00:55
  and I am not fucking kidding about my list of horrible things that these people
• 1:01:00
  do. We are aware, We are aware again, we are aware.
• 1:01:06
  Okay, let's keep going. That's sort of the policy band aid that every
• 1:01:12
  sort of polite, right thinking Western government has proposed, like, well,
• 1:01:15
  we'll just bring in new people. And it's like, even if you stipulate
• 1:01:19
  that you like don't care about the Americans who live here and like you don't
• 1:01:23
  value them any differently than you value anybody else, which that's not my perspective,
• 1:01:29
  but even if that's the case, that will not solve this economic problem.
• 1:01:34
  You mentioned before that this is basically the challenge facing us right now,
• 1:01:37
  and that it's not getting nearly the attention it should. Now, there are
• 1:01:40
  some high profile people, a handful who have tried to call attention to it,
• 1:01:45
  but they are the exception rather than the rule. I'm pausing there for
• 1:01:50
  the banana. Yeah, this is this is again, it's it is being
• 1:01:53
  discussed, but it's another one of these things. When I talked about nullification
• 1:01:59
  yesterday, it will be ignored by the mainstream. They have no interest in
• 1:02:05
  it. They don't care. And I don't think it's because they're stupid.
• 1:02:08
  I think they know and they're okay with this, and or alternatively, they
• 1:02:13
  have absolutely no goddamn solution. Yeah, or well that because of what it
• 1:02:16
  would mean they don't want to face, right, So so yeah, there
• 1:02:22
  is that there's very very little go ahead. I'm sorry, no, I'm
• 1:02:25
  just like I keep getting into these arguments, like today or yesterday, I
• 1:02:30
  got into this argument. It was actually with a former guest on the show,
• 1:02:36
  Philosophy Cat. Oh yeah, Philosophic Cat. Yeah, Philosophic Cat.
• 1:02:39
  And it seems to be that everyone is absolutely allergic to the idea that women
• 1:02:46
  might need to take some responsibility. Okay, I mean the truth is that
• 1:02:52
  we are in this mess because we handed defining this very critical relationship over to
• 1:02:58
  the craziest goddamn women we could find, Like we're literally pulling them out of
• 1:03:04
  an insane asylum and saying, hey, how would you like the keys to
• 1:03:07
  the nuclear silo? Lady. You know, it was absolutely the stupidest thing
• 1:03:13
  we could have done, and the only people who can fix it now are
• 1:03:17
  women because, for whatever reason, probably evolutionarily, a lot of the power
• 1:03:25
  of defining human morality and the relationship between men and women falls to women.
• 1:03:31
  That's that's what I've seen throughout history, that that social core seems to be
• 1:03:38
  women's thing. They're there the shield maidens of the social core, and um
• 1:03:45
  so if we're going to fix this, we got to buck up, we
• 1:03:51
  gotta be better. And yet all I see from a lot of women is
• 1:03:54
  this just racing away from responsibility, like their hair is on fire, which
• 1:04:00
  I do not understand. Like, if you have nothing to be responsible for,
• 1:04:05
  then you are nothing. There you are a great big ball and nothing.
• 1:04:12
  Yeah, I mean that if you only worship the self, then you're
• 1:04:15
  only going to think about number one, and that means you don't care about
• 1:04:18
  what happens down the line. Then you have absolutely nothing. Yeah, you
• 1:04:24
  only care about number one, But what does that even become when there is
• 1:04:28
  nothing but the self that's all worth? It's it's depressing. I think that
• 1:04:32
  they're you know, again, you can link it to all these other issues
• 1:04:36
  like people being overly medicated, people committing suicide. Um yeah, we we
• 1:04:42
  live in a narcissistic culture, especially women. Narcissism is leading to absolute nihilism.
• 1:04:50
  Yes, of course that's where it goes. But I don't like,
• 1:04:55
  I'm still I'm looking at this and I do not unders and I understand that
• 1:04:58
  I'm weird, Like I know, I am an outlier of some description some
• 1:05:03
  strange prototype. Okay, and I'm gender atypical, but I'm just telling the
• 1:05:11
  gender typical women, like the ones who just you know, they're they're right
• 1:05:15
  in line with what is expected of women. Why are you so scared of
• 1:05:19
  responsibility? You're not a real girl until you take it? Yea, as
• 1:05:27
  far as I can tell, What the hell do I know it? Okay,
• 1:05:30
  let's keep going. All right, let's keep going of this. So
• 1:05:33
  how long would you say we have before? Obviously it's not going to be
• 1:05:38
  we wake up one day and there's a crisis. It happens gradually. But
• 1:05:42
  what should we be looking for in terms of indicators that the real, let's
• 1:05:45
  say, demographic apocalypse is upon us. So I think you're right that it
• 1:05:50
  will be a slide over the course of a generation. But to some extent
• 1:05:57
  it's already baked into the cake. Like one of the beauties of like demographic
• 1:06:01
  research, and one of the things that makes it really valuable is that you
• 1:06:05
  can absolutely determine how many twenty year olds there will be in twenty years because
• 1:06:11
  we've got the newborns and they're not making any more of them. Like the
• 1:06:14
  number of five year olds is the number of five year olds, and they
• 1:06:15
  will grow up to be fifteen year olds and twenty five year olds. And
• 1:06:18
  so to some extent, the fact that a tiny fraction of Koreans in twenty
• 1:06:29
  years will we have to sustain a massive fraction of retiring Koreans at age seventy.
• 1:06:34
  That's baked in. There's nothing we can do about that, all right,
• 1:06:39
  I'm just pausing there for so you guys got an idea, I'd ever
• 1:06:45
  realized that it was this bad. Well, in South Korea, it's really
• 1:06:48
  bad. Yeah, it's the worst, like one hundred six grandchildren to every
• 1:06:55
  hundred people great grandchildren. Okay, that is that's crazy bad. And and
• 1:07:03
  and again the US's numbers are not that much better. And immigration isn't going
• 1:07:08
  to solve it. No, well because because the countries that are immigrating here
• 1:07:13
  also have a decline. So you know, by the time by the time
• 1:07:16
  people like US retire um, they may actually euthanasia may actually be considered like
• 1:07:24
  a definitely Canadian retirement plan. Yep, yeah, that's that's that might happen.
• 1:07:29
  That they're they're already doing it, So there is that Essentially all that
• 1:07:35
  can be done is to reverse course as quickly as possible, and what you're
• 1:07:42
  going to see essentially as populations decline is what you see in There's not a
• 1:07:46
  whole lot of things that like Japan and Detroit have in common, but one
• 1:07:50
  thing they have in common are these essentially ghost towns and abandonment of the elderly
• 1:07:58
  in sort of warehouse nursing homes. In Japan, you see like these villages
• 1:08:04
  where it's like the shopkeepers are all like sixty five plus, and the whole
• 1:08:10
  community obviously is sustained to some extent by sort of social insurance, by entitling
• 1:08:14
  programs, but you've got people right on the edge of retirement running the town.
• 1:08:18
  Essentially, for this population of like eighty five ninety five year old retirees
• 1:08:26
  who are just impossibly lonely and increasingly poor, running out of money, it's
• 1:08:30
  becoming increasingly impossible to take care of them the way that they would ideally be
• 1:08:34
  taken care of. And I think ultimately it's more like the sort of emotional
• 1:08:40
  and spiritual crisis, or at least what I would say is in Japan,
• 1:08:44
  the emotional and spiritual crisis is isolated because they're actually doing a fairly decent job
• 1:08:49
  of managing the economic consequences up to this point, I'm scout. I'm pausing
• 1:08:56
  there for the banana. He's talking about Japan. But we're going to get
• 1:08:59
  into some better stuff in a little bit. I'll have to say that,
• 1:09:02
  you know, being in a small town in Canada, I don't know how
• 1:09:05
  it is in other small towns. We are not doing too bad. Like
• 1:09:11
  there's there's actually more kids now. I wonder if it's because of this housing
• 1:09:15
  issue, because you can get a house in a small town for a decent
• 1:09:18
  amount of money. We're like, not not an ex extravagant amount of money.
• 1:09:25
  And I wonder if if young families are all just migrating out of the
• 1:09:29
  cities. Um, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, So it seems
• 1:09:33
  like there's almost like a bit of a resurgence. I mean, people are
• 1:09:36
  having kids here. But this Ronope is not a big city. But I
• 1:09:43
  think I mean, I think he's looking at it in a big picture way.
• 1:09:46
  So I think like the urban centers, the large metropolis is there,
• 1:09:51
  that's where there's going to be the biggest problems. And the places that depend
• 1:09:57
  on sort of state funded support, you know, um like like welfare programs
• 1:10:02
  or whatnot, though those are unsustainable. And when you when you couple that
• 1:10:05
  with all the shit that all the various like um lobby groups like the UN
• 1:10:11
  want to you know, reach net zero carbon zero net zero carbon emissions,
• 1:10:16
  which is basically just going to kill kill industries, kill people, and they
• 1:10:21
  don't care because they're gonna be taken care of, right um, and and
• 1:10:25
  all these other things are just gonna pile on, I know, just taxes.
• 1:10:30
  They're not even they they but but they don't care. It's going to
• 1:10:34
  kill people and they're fine with it even if it doesn't work. That's okay.
• 1:10:38
  They can be like, well, it's patriarchy's fault. I mean,
• 1:10:41
  they can just blame whatever because they're gonna be fine. They're not going to
• 1:10:45
  do that to themselves. They're gonna do that to us, the peasants,
• 1:10:48
  right if they can do it. And um, you know, so when
• 1:10:54
  you add everything else, like you were talking about the trans women thing again,
• 1:10:59
  I have to go back to these these children that are being coerced into
• 1:11:04
  transitioning and they are making themselves infertile, they are castrating themselves, and there
• 1:11:11
  are even adults that decide to do that that you know, that's also a
• 1:11:15
  growing problem. It's a growing number, almost to the point where it's like,
• 1:11:19
  are you sure this is the right course of action? Like is this
• 1:11:24
  what you really want? Because I don't know. I think it's a problem.
• 1:11:28
  I think it's a problem, and I think we should be able to
• 1:11:30
  question all of it like we are. Should there be this many people that
• 1:11:35
  are certain that they have generous for you, and they're certain that the only
• 1:11:39
  solution is to castrate themselves because if they if they come to regret it later,
• 1:11:45
  then you know, this is just another you could say, like part
• 1:11:47
  of the overall formula that's reducing our population and more more more importantly our ability
• 1:11:56
  to procreate because there's fewer people that can do it. And there's a lot
• 1:12:00
  of other things too, like stuff that we're eating and drinking, and you
• 1:12:02
  know, in the plastics and everything. These are other issues. They're small.
• 1:12:06
  The majority is something we're going to get to in a second. But
• 1:12:11
  there's a number of compounding factors. So skeptical that that will happen in Europe
• 1:12:17
  or the United States because it's a much more homogeneous society, it's a much
• 1:12:23
  more sort of culturally cohesive and orderly society and highly automated, rich per capita,
• 1:12:30
  and it just has a lot of advantages that we do not have here.
• 1:12:33
  And so those are the kinds of things that we're going to be looking
• 1:12:36
  for. Also, infrastructure failure, like we saw in Detroit with the water
• 1:12:41
  in Flint, Michigan. A lot of that is just the fact that the
• 1:12:45
  number of people to maintain the machines. And I don't mean like water treatment
• 1:12:54
  experts necessarily, although that's part of it. I mean the tax base.
• 1:12:57
  The young working population pays the bills for the infrastructure. As that dwindled,
• 1:13:03
  there just wasn't the budget to mains. Because you're pumping water, you're pumping
• 1:13:08
  sewer, you're pumping electricity through this city that used to be enormous, and
• 1:13:13
  you're pumping it to like one guy on this street and one family on that
• 1:13:17
  street, and it stops making economic sense, and so the value of those
• 1:13:23
  properties collapses. People's retirement, the majority of middle class families, they have
• 1:13:28
  like seventy percent of their net worth in their homes, and as those values
• 1:13:31
  collapse, it's sort of not a simple thing to be middle aged or elderly
• 1:13:39
  and to have to leave your home and to have that home be like worth
• 1:13:44
  nothing essentially to be piped out. Especially I'm just pausing there for the banana
• 1:13:48
  again. Yeah, again, that's what I was talking about, And of
• 1:13:56
  course you'd have to look at it widescale. We don't if we lose the
• 1:14:00
  money, and I actually was something that I didn't consider it, but yes,
• 1:14:02
  we also have to have the funds to pay the people, the men
• 1:14:06
  mostly to maintain this stuff, and we won't have that if we don't have
• 1:14:12
  the tax base. So it's going to be like again, like if you're
• 1:14:15
  an ecologist thinking that, oh wow, this is going to be great because
• 1:14:21
  the no, it's not going to result in less pressure on the earth.
• 1:14:27
  It's going to be horrific. It's going to be absolutely horrific. Like I
• 1:14:33
  said, it's going to be an extinction level event if we can't maintain our
• 1:14:38
  infrastructure. One, the destruction of our infrastructure will itself cause problems, and
• 1:14:45
  two the inability to feed and shelter. I mean, no matter when this
• 1:14:50
  happens, When the infrastructure fails, as soon as it does, you're going
• 1:14:56
  to see a mass migration of humans, death sprit humans into wilderness areas and
• 1:15:01
  they're gonna be stripped, like you cannot support The thing is that you would
• 1:15:10
  need seventeen earths I think. I think that's the estimate to support the population
• 1:15:17
  of the earth now and a hunter gatherer society. So hunter gatherers need more
• 1:15:25
  land and more resources. They need more land to be able to acquire the
• 1:15:30
  resources to support themselves. So and if everybody today, or even just one
• 1:15:34
  fourth of the population today had to resort to hunting and scavenging, it would
• 1:15:44
  destroy our ecology. I mean, even having that many dead bodies would be
• 1:15:51
  destructive. Right, So it's it's gonna be like, it's not it's not
• 1:15:57
  good. Yeah, we aren't going to die off fast enough unless we bomb
• 1:16:02
  ourselves with nukes. We're not going to die off fast enough to preserve the
• 1:16:06
  environment. So this is like, if you actually walk through this horrific scenario,
• 1:16:13
  logically, nobody's going to win from this. Even if you are the
• 1:16:17
  most nihilistic anti human, preserve the earth, crazy ass eco terrorist, you
• 1:16:26
  aren't going to get what you want from this. It's going to be absolute
• 1:16:30
  horror for every living animal on the planet. Okay, all right, let's
• 1:16:39
  keep going. Actually, as people increasingly have these homes on long mortgages with
• 1:16:45
  high interest rates. Yeah, so it's essentially you're looking at a really serious
• 1:16:49
  economic problem where probably gen X is going to be the first that gets hit
• 1:16:55
  with this, where social security becomes insolvent, reliable act for something that home
• 1:17:02
  values in a lot of states will also have collapsed four oh one case will
• 1:17:08
  have fallen quite a lot, And it's like, what do you do at
• 1:17:11
  that point? It's not obviously there's a ton you can do. It's just
• 1:17:13
  people becoming dramatically poorer in our lifetime, and so the intervention has to take
• 1:17:19
  place now, Like there's not really a way to like put a trampoline under
• 1:17:25
  this thing to save it, Like you have to fix it at the top.
• 1:17:29
  You have to not jump off that cliff. All right, So that's
• 1:17:32
  the end of that section. I'm gonna jump ahead. Yeah, let me
• 1:17:35
  just tell like, so, all right, so we have to fix it
• 1:17:42
  now? Um okay, dude, uh what what what is his? Like?
• 1:17:49
  The thing is that basically what he said that the problem is that people
• 1:17:53
  are not having children, right, Yeah, that means they're not forming families.
• 1:17:58
  Ye, women are not marrying and producing children and raising them. And
• 1:18:04
  honestly, single motherhood is at the least efficient way to raise children. Ye,
• 1:18:10
  people don't know that the most effective way to raise like a large population
• 1:18:18
  of healthy children is monogamy. Two parents in the house and with their kids
• 1:18:27
  raising them. That's that is the most That's the most effective way to quickly
• 1:18:31
  increase your population is to get marriages back. Yeah. Right, So we're
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  looking at this this basically a holocaust is not just population wise and economically,
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  but also ecologically. It's gonna it's gonna take a huge toll on the earth
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  to endure this. And it's because men and women aren't coming together in forming
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  families. So what's the solution. What does he think the solution is,
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  Well, let's get into the next section. I forgot what it was,
• 1:19:05
  but I put asterisks by them so they're probably more important. You have any
• 1:19:10
  thank you to give up? I haven't got any super chats or romo rants
• 1:19:13
  or super childs, which is making me giving me the big sad. So,
• 1:19:17
  um, you got do you have any thank you? Get Get some,
• 1:19:21
  get some, get some super chows in there. Ask us questions,
• 1:19:26
  send us your your patented, esoteric, confusing text. Let us puzzle.
• 1:19:31
  Let us puzzle over your wisdoms. Okay, send us super chows, feed
• 1:19:35
  the Badger dot com slash just the tip, somebody send five bucks. Let
• 1:19:39
  us know we're not screaming into the abyss, although I think we often are.
• 1:19:44
  Okay, all right, let's keep let's continue ruet. Well, you
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  kind of hinted at part of what's going on. But what is your best
• 1:19:53
  guess as to why this happened? What is the cause of this? Given
• 1:19:57
  that it's something that transcends culture and political boundaries, so it can't have an
• 1:20:02
  explanation that's exclusive to one society. What do you make of it? Where
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  do you think it comes from? I can tell you what it's not.
• 1:20:11
  It's definitely not people just making an intelligent economic choice to have smaller families.
• 1:20:15
  They're not actually having smaller families. Family size among people who have at least
• 1:20:21
  one child pretty much the same since the nineteen seventies hasn't changed that much,
• 1:20:26
  so it's still quite rare for families to have only children. It's a little
• 1:20:30
  bit less common to see big families. But ultimately, if you can get
• 1:20:34
  people to that first kid, they're going to have probably several That family will
• 1:20:39
  probably be above replacement fertility. They're probably gonna more than two, or at
• 1:20:43
  least two. So the issue is people not having shown So okay, so
• 1:20:46
  once you get the woman to pop out one, it's like you can't you
• 1:20:50
  can't have just one. Okay. Yeah, it's like it's like it's like
• 1:20:56
  motherhood instinct engages. It's like pringles. Once you pop, you can't stop.
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  So but he's saying that, But the issue is that there are more
• 1:21:05
  people not having children at all. So yeah, we're getting to the first
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  one. Yeah. Yeah, the issue is them not having children period.
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  It's a massive, massive fraction of people who are not having children at all.
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  And I can tell you another thing it's not about it's not about people
• 1:21:21
  making an intelligent, rational choice to not have children either. So that's I
• 1:21:28
  wanted to point that out because when I brought this up, you said,
• 1:21:30
  well, I'm not having kids. So you know, the percentage of rational
• 1:21:35
  people that say I don't think I want children is still really, really small.
• 1:21:44
  So it's not that. And like Lauren said the same thing, She's
• 1:21:45
  like, I don't really want to have kids, and she thought I was
• 1:21:48
  accusing her of something. It's no, I'm not doing that. It's not
• 1:21:51
  an accusation. But you are in the minority, and yet and yet we
• 1:21:58
  aren't having them, So let's let's continue. It's not well, I mean,
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  okay. In my case, I just you know, there's just so
• 1:22:04
  much freaking I didn't want to subject a child to me essentially um and all
• 1:22:13
  of my crap. Uh. So that's that was my logical argument for it,
• 1:22:18
  Although now that it's probably an impossibility for me, I realized that considering
• 1:22:28
  the women who do have kids, I probably wouldn't have been that bad.
• 1:22:32
  No, you'd be surprised what we can what we are capable of when yeah,
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  yeah, yeah, but it would have occurred to me when I was
• 1:22:42
  picking up you know, I had just stepped in this little puppies shit and
• 1:22:47
  was picking it up without much much actual concern or complaint, it occurred to
• 1:22:53
  me, Hey, oh, I guess this, Uh, this is something
• 1:22:56
  I could have been able to do. Um. And it actually came around
• 1:23:00
  the time when I realized that my mom was not the worst mother. Like
• 1:23:06
  we we had a rough, goddamn relationship. Rough is probably putting it mildly,
• 1:23:14
  but she was very loyal to my father and she would have never broken
• 1:23:20
  our relationship up, which made me realize that she's head and shoulders above the
• 1:23:29
  a lot of the well, she's head and shoulders of the average mother.
• 1:23:33
  Yeah, as as rough of a mother, as rough as it was to
• 1:23:38
  be her daughter. My mother was better than average as a mother simply because
• 1:23:44
  she was loyal to my father and she would have never broken a relationship up.
• 1:23:49
  That's it, you know. And that realization just was like, holy
• 1:23:55
  crap. You know, I've spent my I've spent a good port and a
• 1:23:59
  portion of life being resentful towards my mother. And then to realize that actually,
• 1:24:04
  no, um, she wasn't that bad. Could have been worse.
• 1:24:10
  It could have been a lot worse. Um, even even if she was,
• 1:24:14
  you know, verbally very difficult, very disagreeable, very aggressive, she
• 1:24:18
  never would have taken me away from my father. And that meets her better
• 1:24:24
  than her true at least at least of all the mothers out there. And
• 1:24:29
  that just that realization just it floored me, humbled me, and made me
• 1:24:32
  realize, well, you know, maybe I wouldn't have been that bad because
• 1:24:36
  I sure as hell wouldn't have taken my kids, any kids that I had
• 1:24:40
  with Jonathan away from him. M hmm, that's true. Yeah, all
• 1:24:45
  right, anyway, let's play some more of this. Oh, I just
• 1:24:49
  it's just not for me. Some people come around to that after the fact.
• 1:24:54
  But actually, since nineteen ninety, the number of women who say I
• 1:25:00
  don't want kids it's a conscious choice is stable at five percent. Like that,
• 1:25:04
  we think about a lot of things having changed culturally since then, a
• 1:25:08
  lot of dramatic changes. So I was a little bit surprised to hear that,
• 1:25:11
  but like it's five percent of women want to have kids at least one
• 1:25:15
  And what ends up happening is what demographer Stephen Shaw calls unplanned childlessness or circumstantial
• 1:25:23
  childlessness. He did surveys of the women who don't have kids. About ten
• 1:25:30
  percent of the childless say it was a choice they made on purpose. Another
• 1:25:34
  ten percent say they were medically unable, and that's an increasing growing fraction.
• 1:25:39
  We're gonna be talking about why that is at the conference as well, the
• 1:25:42
  sort of biomedical side of this. He's us talking about this at a conference.
• 1:25:46
  That's why he's make sure just for a little bit of context, I
• 1:25:49
  would say I'd say that the infertility. I mean, if you have a
• 1:25:55
  stable relationship, you're going to have a lot more of a chance to overcome
• 1:26:00
  in full infertility. Yeah, so I imagine a lot of this is just
• 1:26:04
  single women who do not have a stable source of you know, the baby
• 1:26:10
  juice, who who have to rely on everything medical, every aspect of the
• 1:26:15
  whole process being medical, and they just they can't get pregnant. Yeah,
• 1:26:20
  I mean it must be. You know, it's probably a pretty harrowing experience
• 1:26:25
  to try to do that alone. You know. Cassie Jay had her second
• 1:26:28
  baby, by the way. Yeah, that's great, Yeah, it is.
• 1:26:31
  It is. I think that before she made this movie, she was
• 1:26:35
  probably not even gonna be with that guy, and she wasn't think planning marriage
• 1:26:40
  or anything. And now she's got two kids. But um, so congratulations
• 1:26:44
  Cassie. Hopefully we'll get to have you on the show again soon. Well
• 1:26:46
  it's interesting because I did talk to her about about why she was a feminist
• 1:26:53
  and what how Ever, you know, things changed and she said that the
• 1:26:59
  reason why she as a feminist was because she wanted to be right, And
• 1:27:01
  you could see that on the interview that I did with her, And it's
• 1:27:05
  true, like feminism gives women a sense of being able to judge men and
• 1:27:11
  to have something over on the men in her life, and when she questioned
• 1:27:15
  that, she says that she let go of a lot of resentment towards her
• 1:27:20
  partner and started to recognize a lot more of what he was investing in the
• 1:27:25
  relationship, which then improved it. And I know that she had a lot
• 1:27:30
  of difficulties getting to the point where she had a kid. UM. I
• 1:27:35
  don't know if you knew that, Brian, um, and that I did.
• 1:27:41
  I talked to her about it, like at ICMI. I didn't make
• 1:27:44
  an official interview, but we were all having drinks that at night and we
• 1:27:47
  were hanging out and to go, you know, to be able to overcome
• 1:27:55
  that. And I won't I won't get any more detail into that, but
• 1:28:00
  you do need a really strong relationship and uh. And so I think that
• 1:28:05
  ultimately, you know, and I've seen this in other situations, like I
• 1:28:11
  know that we are responsible for UM. I know our community we have Now
• 1:28:19
  there's Cassie who's has two kids. There's prim who has two kids. There's
• 1:28:25
  a young younger woman than me anyway named Tiny who is on her first you
• 1:28:32
  know, so in our community, we're actually getting people to the point of
• 1:28:38
  producing children, or at least tangentially the people who are interested in these issues
• 1:28:42
  are producing children, you know. Yeah, yeah, and that's uh,
• 1:28:46
  that's that's interesting to me, you know, because what I'm seeing from the
• 1:28:50
  community that we've constructed is that, um, there's a lot of this dysfunction
• 1:28:58
  that is dissolving. So you see somebody who originally thought that he was identifying
• 1:29:04
  as a woman or starting to identify as non binary, going back to identifying
• 1:29:10
  as a man because he's part of a community that's very positive about masculinity,
• 1:29:15
  and then furthermore going on to become a tradesman of all things, if you
• 1:29:21
  can believe it, you know, So, I mean moving along on a
• 1:29:27
  pathway that's a lot more beneficial to society. I just find that interesting,
• 1:29:31
  you know, that that that that has been an effect of this community,
• 1:29:35
  and all we've done is old women responsible and be positive about masculinity. Yep,
• 1:29:46
  it's not that hard. It's not that hard. No, all right,
• 1:29:53
  let's hear some more because I think this gets good. But the remaining
• 1:29:57
  eighty percent, the vast majority, are women who said, you know,
• 1:30:00
  I just didn't find the right guy, or I thought I would have more
• 1:30:03
  time after my career was over, or I would take him a break or
• 1:30:06
  something. It just didn't happen for me, even though I would have liked
• 1:30:10
  for it too. I wonder why you couldn't find the right man. I
• 1:30:17
  wonder why you got caught up in your job and you ended up pursuing a
• 1:30:21
  career and girl bossing all over the place. I wonder, I wonder,
• 1:30:26
  I wonder, No, I know, like I wonder why you thought,
• 1:30:29
  well, I can wait, I'll wait. You know, I'll put it
• 1:30:32
  off. I'll put it off. I didn't find the right guy. It
• 1:30:35
  got harder and harder as time went on, and now I don't have kids.
• 1:30:40
  So the overwhelming majority, and this is a recent thing, so he
• 1:30:43
  said that historically, like since the nineties, I guess for as long as
• 1:30:47
  they've been studying it a percentage of women that made a conscious choice. And
• 1:30:51
  he is only talking about women here because I think in general men want kids,
• 1:30:56
  right, but when it comes in, women are the ones that decide
• 1:31:00
  whether or not that happened. So it kind of has to come down to
• 1:31:01
  women, right. So for since the nineties, only five percent of women
• 1:31:06
  made a conscious choice to not have children. That's not harmful. That's not
• 1:31:12
  harmful because it's normal right, that you would get a small percentage of women
• 1:31:15
  then there most of the time in the past they had to become nuns.
• 1:31:19
  But yeah, or whatever, maybe they just wanted to be Sometimes you need,
• 1:31:24
  like you said, some you need like an Isaac Newton, like a
• 1:31:27
  guy who doesn't have kids. But they instead they contribute in another way to
• 1:31:30
  society, you know, right, in some major way. Yeah, and
• 1:31:33
  then you get a small percentage of women who can't have children and a small
• 1:31:38
  percentage of men who also can't have children. Not a big deal, but
• 1:31:41
  the eighty percent of women that wanted kids. But there were all of these
• 1:31:47
  things, these decisions that they made, like waiting, like focusing on career,
• 1:31:54
  like girl bossing, all that got in the way. And now they're
• 1:31:57
  like, oh, well, I guess it's too late. Oh I guess
• 1:32:00
  men don't want me anymore. Oh right, And so yeah, that's the
• 1:32:03
  reason why this is happening. And who and who promotes that? Who promotes
• 1:32:10
  girl bossing? I have a video clip here I want to switch to because
• 1:32:15
  I think this is entirely relevant. And I know I saw that you responded
• 1:32:18
  to this video. It's only one minute long, but I want to play
• 1:32:23
  this is from CNN. So I'm going to have to pause with the banana,
• 1:32:26
  and it's called why are fewer women getting married? And tell me if
• 1:32:29
  you can see like there's a bit of a correlation. Let's say, I
• 1:32:32
  don't want to assume causation, but there's a correlation here. This is the
• 1:32:38
  Ivy League version of I don't want no scrubs. This is a real study
• 1:32:45
  that was done through Cornell University that said a shortage of economically attractive men.
• 1:32:49
  There's not enough men who are economically attractive, that maybe one of the reasons
• 1:32:55
  why marriage is on the decline. I'm married, Okay, it just makes
• 1:32:57
  sure that yeah, yeah, the damn I'm pretty sure STNN was going to
• 1:33:01
  be all over that copyright. Yeah, yeah, they will. Um,
• 1:33:05
  but yeah, this is uh. I remember getting into an argument with a
• 1:33:09
  feminist or something like, Okay, this was a really really bizarre argument.
• 1:33:15
  So somebody like these women are basically calculating, calculating, calculating cackling cackling plus
• 1:33:23
  calculating calculated cackling. Okay, they're cackling about scrubs, right. So when
• 1:33:30
  I retweeted this this video, a guy got on there and he was obviously
• 1:33:35
  upset because you can understand why men might be upset at this, and yes,
• 1:33:41
  it's okay for men to be upset at something. It doesn't make them
• 1:33:44
  less men. And he was saying, well, what about you know,
• 1:33:46
  like, maybe it's because there aren't any virginal women to marry, and you
• 1:33:50
  know, all women want to get married thirty year olds who've been run through
• 1:33:54
  by blah blah blah. And I'm like, you know, it's a little
• 1:33:57
  saucy. And she's this woman swans in and says, wow, married women
• 1:34:02
  are less happy than single women. So it's not married it's not women who
• 1:34:08
  are disappointed that there are less marriages. And I'm like, okay, and
• 1:34:14
  I said, no, the statistics I've seen suggests that women are married women
• 1:34:17
  are substantially happier, and it actually is true. Like if you look at
• 1:34:21
  the General Social Survey, married women are twice as happy as married as a
• 1:34:27
  single woman twice, like forty percent of married women will say yes, I'm
• 1:34:33
  very happy. Twenty percent of single women will say yes, I'm very happy.
• 1:34:39
  Okay, And it's probably even worse for women who have divorced. So
• 1:34:44
  yes, married women are happier than single women. The reason why that ridiculous
• 1:34:48
  factoy got legs was it was actually based on a misunderstanding, potentially a misunderstanding
• 1:34:56
  of one of the surveys and the end of dual in question. I think
• 1:35:00
  his name is Nolan. He thought that when they were asking if a married
• 1:35:08
  woman was in the room or was in residence with her husband, he thought
• 1:35:15
  that that meant that the husband had walked out of the room. So the
• 1:35:18
  woman was able to be honest because you know, he was. She wasn't
• 1:35:21
  taking a survey around her husband. And then he extrapolated from those numbers that
• 1:35:28
  married women were less happy. But actually, and so he ignores the numbers
• 1:35:32
  where the married women said yes, my husband is in the home with me,
• 1:35:38
  versus the numbers where the married women said no, my husband isn't.
• 1:35:40
  He said, oh, those are the numbers we have to look at because
• 1:35:43
  those are the honest numbers. And people pointed out that no, that's not
• 1:35:48
  actually what the survey was asking. They were asking married women if their husband
• 1:35:55
  was in residence with them. In other words, he wasn't like on a
• 1:35:59
  business trip or living in another country to pursue business, or dealing with some
• 1:36:03
  other reason why he wasn't living in the same house with them, So I
• 1:36:06
  had nothing to do with the husband being out of the room and suddenly the
• 1:36:10
  wife being able to be honest. They had everything to do with whether or
• 1:36:14
  not she was actually able to live with her at that moment in time,
• 1:36:18
  and the women who weren't able to be living with their husband at that moment
• 1:36:23
  in time were less happy. And he completely misrepresented all of this. And
• 1:36:28
  now we have to deal with this ridiculous factoid that comes from nowhere that single
• 1:36:32
  women aren't happier than married women. No, they are not. They're substantially
• 1:36:38
  less happy. Anyway, I pointed this out to her, and I said,
• 1:36:42
  you know, you know, at the only time that married women are
• 1:36:46
  less happy is when they lose their husbands. So as women get older,
• 1:36:53
  if they're married, their happiness declines, but it's because they're starting to become
• 1:36:59
  widows. So the only time a married woman is less happy is when she's
• 1:37:03
  braved less happy than a single woman. And then I said something like,
• 1:37:09
  you know, it's um it's better to have loved and lost, which is
• 1:37:13
  something you wouldn't know because I assumed that she was a single woman. And
• 1:37:15
  then she comes back with I'm married, I am a grandma, and I'm
• 1:37:20
  like, lady, you're coming in on this thread crowing about single women being
• 1:37:28
  happier than married women and you're married, God lord, I would I am
• 1:37:33
  still sorry for your husband. Yeah right? How many times has he had
• 1:37:38
  to hear that shit? Yeah? You know, Oh if I were single,
• 1:37:42
  I would be so much happier. You're such a burden. It's like,
• 1:37:45
  so I pointed that out to her and she's like, oh, you're
• 1:37:47
  so hateful. I'm like, okay, kiss your husband for me and thank
• 1:37:54
  him for saving you from being miserable, you know, like being proportionately more
• 1:37:58
  likely to be miserable as a single woman. And she swanned off. But
• 1:38:01
  it's like, like this is the thing, Like there's so much cope and
• 1:38:10
  women are not happy single and they're not happy not having kids, you know,
• 1:38:17
  And I honestly I don't really care, because this is the consequences of
• 1:38:20
  their choices, and they're gonna it's gonna get a lot worse, Like the
• 1:38:25
  consequences of the choices are gonna get a lot more gruesome than this. H
• 1:38:30
  But to say to to paper over this, to pretend like, oh,
• 1:38:34
  no, women are happier single women are happier without kids. Will generally women
• 1:38:38
  are happier without kids, but they're not happier single. Um. But to
• 1:38:43
  paper over all of that with cope, it's just ridiculous. Anyway, continue,
• 1:38:47
  I just I guess I don't know if that's an aside or if that
• 1:38:50
  was actually relied. That's fine, it's fine. Let's let's uh, I
• 1:38:55
  mean, I think I'll play a little bit more of this video. It's
• 1:38:58
  a short to play much. Yeah, it's only it's only like a minute
• 1:39:00
  long. So marriage is that it's lowest in about one hundred and fifty years
• 1:39:04
  in America, the marriage rate. Now, what do they mean by economically
• 1:39:09
  unattractive? They said it's somebody who either doesn't have a bachelor's degree so that's
• 1:39:13
  prospects, or a stable job making a forty thousand dollars a year or more.
• 1:39:17
  They said one reason might be education. The lead author said, this
• 1:39:21
  is a rough quote. All right, I'm pausing there for the banana again.
• 1:39:25
  So this is about marriage, but like they're basically hand in hand.
• 1:39:30
  Oh, I remember what she said this, I remember the relevance. So
• 1:39:32
  this individual woman said that they didn't ask women what they wanted. Instead,
• 1:39:38
  what they did was they modeled the men women were marrying. So they create
• 1:39:44
  constructed a model of what a man a woman marries looks like. And then
• 1:39:48
  they compared that model to the available men in the US. And it explained
• 1:39:56
  why so many women weren't married because they didn't have acts. That there weren't
• 1:40:00
  as enough men who matched that model, and that model was earning fifty eight
• 1:40:06
  percent more than the unmarried men. That was the most critical difference that they
• 1:40:12
  found. And she said, well, they didn't. He didn't. They
• 1:40:14
  didn't ask women what they wanted. No, they just looked at the behavior.
• 1:40:19
  They looked at the men women were choosing to marry. They didn't ask
• 1:40:24
  the women what they wanted. They just looked at women women were choosing to
• 1:40:28
  marry. Well, you don't have to. I mean, if you asked
• 1:40:30
  women what they wanted, they won't be able to tell you anything honest anyway,
• 1:40:34
  probably don't know. Yeah, so um so. Jojo keeps moving around,
• 1:40:41
  but I'm trying to keep his face in there so you guys can see
• 1:40:44
  his snoot booping it. Um. By the way, Jojo booped Mike's snoot
• 1:40:49
  when he came over He's like, he booted my snoot. I was like,
• 1:40:53
  well that's a good sign. That's a good sign, all right,
• 1:40:56
  So play the rest of this. Then we'll go back to Tom Woods.
• 1:40:59
  Many young men today have little to bring to the marriage bargain, and he
• 1:41:02
  talked about how women are going to school more because they want to, you
• 1:41:05
  know, bring more to the table to get better jobs. I'll say this,
• 1:41:09
  this is your sort of piece of money advice, and this doesn't just
• 1:41:12
  come from me, comes from Warren Buffett. He says that the biggest,
• 1:41:15
  most powerful choice you will ever make in your life is choosing the right person
• 1:41:20
  for the right reasons. Okay, And what a smug expression on I know,
• 1:41:28
  I know, it's like she she's she's saying what the problem is and
• 1:41:33
  doesn't seem to see that it's a problem, Like yeah, she never grew
• 1:41:40
  Yeah if yeah, exactly, If women are getting more degrees and making more
• 1:41:45
  money and they're not marrying, she seems to think, well, I guess
• 1:41:49
  the men gonna step up. But then it's like, first of all,
• 1:41:54
  what are degrees really worth? Second of all, I thought that this whole
• 1:41:58
  feminist thing was a about giving women the same opportunities as men, they have
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  more opportunities than men now, and the women are unhappy. It's almost like
• 1:42:06
  this doesn't work, and the men aren't happy either, you know, or
• 1:42:12
  they're just going nig tao, which is, you know, another rational choice
• 1:42:15
  that men make not to have kids. So you know, it's like you're
• 1:42:20
  literally looking at the messy room that you may and you're like, man,
• 1:42:24
  somebody came in here, made a mess of things. It's like I don't
• 1:42:29
  know, um, yeah, sorry, I was just I was actually looking
• 1:42:33
  at tweets. I'm really sorry. Probably, Oh my god, let's keep
• 1:42:35
  going. I'm going to play some more and play some more. So then
• 1:42:38
  the question becomes like, why is that happening? I think to some extent,
• 1:42:42
  there's definitely the two income household strategy is extremely contraceptive and interferes with people's
• 1:42:50
  ability to have certainly more than two kids. Basically, Elizabeth Warren wrote a
• 1:42:56
  book called the two Income Trap. It talks about how much of the second
• 1:43:00
  income in a two income household goes to just things you only had to buy
• 1:43:04
  because you have two incomes and you have kids. I'm gonna pausitive there for
• 1:43:09
  a second, because I heard Elizabeth Warren mentioned when she says that what she
• 1:43:14
  was calling for was for all of the services that a mother would do that
• 1:43:19
  she has to now pay, you know, childcare and stuff like that,
• 1:43:24
  daycare, that it should be free, i e. Paid for by the
• 1:43:28
  taxpayer. So she's not saying that it's it might be a problem that you
• 1:43:32
  have two parents or two parents working because they can't give more time to the
• 1:43:38
  children and they can't make time to have more children. She's saying that the
• 1:43:42
  state i e. Men should cover those costs. So I'm just saying that's
• 1:43:45
  her goal. But the observation is correct. So and I don't think because
• 1:43:53
  people will say, well, you have to have two incomes, it's the
• 1:43:55
  only way. No, I think that you can make it work. I
• 1:43:58
  think that people have to if they want a family, they have to make
• 1:44:02
  compromises and you can make it work. People in third world countries raise lots
• 1:44:06
  of kids. So no, that I don't agree with. But well you
• 1:44:11
  can also there was one family that the way they structured it is they did
• 1:44:15
  um alternating shifts. Yeah, and that worked for them. And you know
• 1:44:21
  it's like a UM it's you can make it work. It's but you know
• 1:44:27
  it is it is harder because there's no extent, not much. Yeah it's
• 1:44:30
  harder, Yeah, it's harder. But but the other thing is that,
• 1:44:34
  um, when when you're talking about this, like, jeez, I think
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  I just forgot what I was going to say. I'm really sorry. Oh
• 1:44:42
  wait, yes this send them those super chats, guys. I want to
• 1:44:45
  hear your guys opinion on this, Like, what do you think of this
• 1:44:48
  what we're saying. Do you think it's accurate? You think it's not accurate?
• 1:44:53
  So send in your opinions. Feed the Badger dot com slash just the
• 1:44:57
  tip. By the way, guys, don't don't let this black pillion too
• 1:44:59
  mu much. I think that I think that there's still time to make it
• 1:45:02
  right. Um and maybe um and I think we'll be okay at least I
• 1:45:08
  think so. But just just don't because if you get black pill, you're
• 1:45:12
  just gonna make it worse. You're make it worse for yourself, You're gonna
• 1:45:15
  make it worse for everybody else. I mean, it's a it's a bit
• 1:45:18
  of a white pill because you can see the normis like there, their their
• 1:45:24
  gears are working. Now they have to start seeing this m Like what part
• 1:45:30
  of the problem if you're not having children. Well, look at what we've
• 1:45:32
  put the situation we've put men into. Not only are they no longer capable
• 1:45:39
  of becoming fiscally economically attractive to the same degree, because we've basically we haven't
• 1:45:44
  just given women the opportunity to be to pursue these economic it's economic liberty or
• 1:45:54
  whatever, we've we've basically handicapped men like they're outright to discriminated against in the
• 1:46:01
  in the employment fields. And I've seen this over and over again. It's
• 1:46:05
  like it's unavoidable. Yeah, it's just the truth. Di. Yeah,
• 1:46:12
  there's a number of factors. It's just the truth. And men are being
• 1:46:15
  discriminated against in terms of the financial world, and this isn't actually even new
• 1:46:21
  Schler's used to be discriminated against in terms of jobs as well. So the
• 1:46:28
  idea that we continue to discriminate against bachelor men, you know, it's not
• 1:46:31
  surprising. They seem to be the people that are the group of people that
• 1:46:36
  is most expendable to society. Yeah, so it's just a continuation of what
• 1:46:42
  we've always done, except a little bit more severe. So the the idea
• 1:46:45
  that men can fix this while dealing with a handicap, an economic handicap because
• 1:46:50
  we are now wanting to give these jobs to women, we want women,
• 1:46:56
  And also a educational handicap because god damn college campuses are not safe for men.
• 1:47:03
  Not when, not when we've looked at all of the freaking false accusations
• 1:47:08
  that we've seen, including one where a woman raped flat out sexually assaulted him
• 1:47:14
  in you know, god, on him while he was passed out drunk and
• 1:47:16
  I mean passed out, had herself a good time, and the next day
• 1:47:21
  accused him of rape. You know, these kinds of false accusations of men
• 1:47:26
  on college campuses. You know they're not safe there either, and they're leaving
• 1:47:30
  there though those places and tropes. And of course women don't look down on
• 1:47:35
  trades, all right. They don't want to marry a sewer worker or even
• 1:47:41
  if he makes six figures. Yep. You know, so all of these
• 1:47:45
  things, all of these factors plus plus we've given the task of defining the
• 1:47:51
  relationship between men and women. We've given given the task of defining how men
• 1:47:57
  relate to women to the craziest mother freaking women on the planet. Like we've
• 1:48:05
  basically handed the task of saying, how oh, this is this is what
• 1:48:10
  men contribute to the family, This is what can men contribute to their relationship
• 1:48:14
  to women? Oh, all they contribute is violence and criminality. Because her
• 1:48:19
  PADRP. I'm a lesbian separatist. We've handed that to me. So not
• 1:48:24
  only do they have the economic the educational handicaps, they have the social handicap
• 1:48:30
  of being portrayed as burdens and criminals towards women. Yea. And then they're
• 1:48:38
  like they're still and they're still keeping things running and the Normi's turned around and
• 1:48:45
  say, wah is their demographic collapse? I don't know. And if you
• 1:48:51
  are somebody who thinks, who actually agrees with the crazy women's appraisal of what
• 1:49:00
  men bring to relationships and society, if you actually believe that men would ever
• 1:49:05
  construct a society for their own benefit at the expensive women, you are part
• 1:49:10
  of the problem. You are perpetuating the craziest notion of the relationship between men
• 1:49:17
  and women since like the first science fiction where this Greek dude went to the
• 1:49:25
  moon, where they have a society where men get boys thighs pregnant. You
• 1:49:30
  know, it's entirely femboys and like her Herculean men it's entirely constructed, like,
• 1:49:36
  that's just crazy. You've handed defining men's relationship to women. You've handed
• 1:49:44
  defining men's relationship to women, not to men, not to the poets and
• 1:49:48
  the song writers and the artists of men, the men who do that,
• 1:49:55
  you know, and all of the wonderful things that they have, they've expressed
• 1:50:00
  about their desires for women. Just listen to like pop music or their music,
• 1:50:06
  period sonnets, listen to the poetry, listen to the art. We
• 1:50:11
  didn't hand it to those men. Oh, how would you define men's relationship
• 1:50:15
  to women? No, we found the craziest, sickest, most degenerate lunatics
• 1:50:20
  among the lesbian community and handed it to them. And then when the obvious
• 1:50:27
  happened, the Normi's run around saying how did this happen? And how can
• 1:50:31
  men take responsibility for it? Really? Yeah, I got a super chow
• 1:50:40
  finally, thank you for that. So ZERANX gives us five bucks and says,
• 1:50:48
  these people don't consider contexts. Urban areas have higher costs of living.
• 1:50:53
  They also have less area for one to do what they can to cut down
• 1:50:57
  on expenses. I price an apartment on the West side of Manhattan just below
• 1:51:00
  forty second Street, an alcove apartment smaller than a studio, had a forty
• 1:51:05
  two hundred dollars a month rent. There's really nothing you can do but spend
• 1:51:10
  money in that area. That's why you leave. That's why I came here.
• 1:51:13
  I came here because the cost of living was a fraction of what it
• 1:51:16
  was in Chicago. And Lindsay and I can actually survive. We're not exactly
• 1:51:21
  thriving, but we can survive on what we're making. So you do what
• 1:51:27
  you gotta do. You do, you do what you gotta do. People
• 1:51:30
  don't They want to they want to live in Manhattan, and they and they
• 1:51:32
  want to pay, you know, the prices of like the fucking Hollers in
• 1:51:36
  West Virginia. Like you you don't get you don't get to have it both
• 1:51:40
  ways and so and the problem is you have to ask women to lower their
• 1:51:44
  standards. Yeah, and it's sexy to have an apartment in Manhattan, yep.
• 1:51:49
  Um, I mean, like I mean, if it's a closet like
• 1:51:54
  where I live, we probably you know, we don't. People are talking
• 1:52:00
  about forty thousand dollars a year American Like it's it's ridiculously low. I'm like,
• 1:52:06
  that's what we live off of, you know, like this, and
• 1:52:11
  we're fine. And it's because, you know, we got a really cheap
• 1:52:15
  house in a small town. My husband does car maintenance and all kinds of
• 1:52:20
  other maintenance. So I mean he probably saves a couple like as probably at
• 1:52:27
  least well over ten thousand a year because he can do all the things that
• 1:52:33
  need to get done that otherwise would cost considerable amount of money. And we
• 1:52:39
  we we live off of very little. And to me, when women are
• 1:52:44
  like, oh my gosh, he has to have six figures, why,
• 1:52:48
  like really, why why is it that you think that you deserve to live
• 1:52:53
  the life of a fucking saltaness? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah,
• 1:53:02
  it's like what what gave you the idea that that was the life that you
• 1:53:09
  you got to have? And by what virtue are you? Are you a
• 1:53:13
  supermodel? Probably not? Like I mean it, It really does come down
• 1:53:19
  to when I said that, what the big thing that we do is make
• 1:53:24
  that like just give pete women a way of understanding responsibility, you know,
• 1:53:29
  having better a better understanding of what they deserve in terms and compared to what
• 1:53:36
  they give. I mean, that's for for real. That's what women need
• 1:53:41
  right now. They do not need this this mythical land like this, these
• 1:53:45
  seventeen other earths where they have seventeen other sultans to to live or cheeks to
• 1:53:53
  have them live lives of luxury. That's just not going to happen. You
• 1:53:57
  have to make your decision. And if you want to have kids, take
• 1:54:01
  the house in the town where you can live off at forty thousand a year.
• 1:54:05
  Hell, I think our neighbors have like three kids and they live off
• 1:54:09
  twenty thousand a year because the guy hunts, you know. And it's go
• 1:54:15
  to a place where you can live cheaper, where you can have a garden
• 1:54:19
  to supplement your income. You know, where you can you have the space
• 1:54:26
  to actually fix things and actually value the things that matter. Human connection.
• 1:54:31
  And I don't mean your backstabbing friend to means that you have lattees with who
• 1:54:39
  wouldn't do a damn thing for you, like literally, ladies. And this
• 1:54:43
  is this is this is what I was sort of getting at with that woman
• 1:54:45
  who was like, who's crowing a married woman? A married woman crowing about
• 1:54:51
  how single women are supposedly happier based on statistics that are false in the first
• 1:54:56
  place. But why would you even why would you as a married woman,
• 1:54:59
  why would you even be doing that? Yep, Like, why would you
• 1:55:02
  be doing that? Right? You know? There, for women, you
• 1:55:10
  need to understand that the person who is going to care about you most in
• 1:55:15
  your life is your husband, probably even more than your mother. And if
• 1:55:23
  your father was a good man, probably you know, there there will be
• 1:55:27
  like there will be a you know, you know, you'll get a man
• 1:55:33
  who cares about you as much as your father did. Right, you have
• 1:55:36
  to understand that that is a companion, Like that is a value that you're
• 1:55:42
  not going to get from your female friends, who will never take a bullet
• 1:55:45
  for you, who will probably never pay for your lunch for God's sake,
• 1:55:51
  Like, what is this joke? Like, oh, I got female friends?
• 1:55:56
  Yeah? Really? You mean you have some mild entertainer in the form
• 1:56:00
  of another human being. That's not a relationship for the most part. I
• 1:56:04
  mean, you can have good friendships. I'm not saying you can't, but
• 1:56:09
  a lot of these I don't think these women necessarily have that. And the
• 1:56:13
  reason one of the reasons why I say that is because I've had girls with
• 1:56:15
  these kinds of friends, like feminists for whatever reason be friends with me or
• 1:56:21
  want to be around me and be like, ah, yeah, I like
• 1:56:24
  you because I know you're not going to backstab me. I'm like, well,
• 1:56:27
  Jesus, who are your other friends? And this is not uncommon.
• 1:56:31
  Like, let's be honest, just having a man in your life is a
• 1:56:39
  value. It's tremendous value that you're not going to get from your friends,
• 1:56:45
  your woman friends. Like I said, they're not going to defend you.
• 1:56:48
  They're not going to care about you that much. They're not really going to
• 1:56:53
  spend that much time with you, and when you become a bore, they're
• 1:56:56
  gonna leave you. This superficial, shallow friendships based around girl bossing do not
• 1:57:04
  compare to a marriage based around sharing a life and sharing your triumphs and your
• 1:57:11
  tragedies. Okay, they just don't compare. A man is a benefit in
• 1:57:17
  and of himself, completely bareheaded with his hands empty, and women need to
• 1:57:27
  understand that. Hm. Fucking talking about scrubs. You're the scrubs language.
• 1:57:36
  Well, thank you for the superchows ranks. Sorry for the digression. It's
• 1:57:43
  all right, I know this is I know, this is rache fuel.
• 1:57:45
  That's that I watched it. I watched this video in particular, I listen
• 1:57:49
  to this about four times. Well I'm on my fourth right now as we
• 1:57:54
  speak, and I also watched a couple of other ones, so I know
• 1:57:57
  this is a big problem. This is actually the reason why I saw a
• 1:58:00
  specialist about looking into like whether or not, you know, we could figure
• 1:58:05
  out a way to have kids, because after cancer I have been able to,
• 1:58:10
  or at least it was said that I wouldn't be able to without intervention.
• 1:58:14
  So now I feel like I should. But anyway, let's keep going,
• 1:58:19
  so childcare and living in a better school district so you have better daycare,
• 1:58:24
  childcare, whatever. So ultimately, like the cap on a two income
• 1:58:29
  family for having kids is like two otherwise and no longer makes economic sense.
• 1:58:33
  Someone's gonna stay home, usually mom, and so that coupled with just women's
• 1:58:41
  education, is strongly correlated with lower fertility, with not being at replacement fertility.
• 1:58:45
  And I suspect what's driving that is not necessarily that like women go like
• 1:58:50
  learn things that make them not want to have kids. I think what happens
• 1:58:55
  is no, I think they do. Dude, I think we're bombbarding.
• 1:59:00
  I know he's he is pussy fitting. I mean, I think they're bombarded
• 1:59:03
  with that um that idea, like fairly early on. You see it everywhere.
• 1:59:12
  I'm sorry again I could I'll reference the Barbie movie. It opens with
• 1:59:16
  a bit of history about how girl dolls used to be baby dolls until Barbie
• 1:59:21
  came along, and Barbie was a woman that could do that, was a
• 1:59:25
  career woman, you could do anything right, and that became the new doll.
• 1:59:30
  So you could say, I mean, the original Barbie was a feminist
• 1:59:33
  idea. You could say that that that is a part of this bombardment of
• 1:59:39
  you know women, children are gross and they're dirty, and they're noisy,
• 1:59:44
  and they're a problem, and we have too many people and you shouldn't do
• 1:59:48
  it. And men don't make good husbands and they're losers and they're they're bad
• 1:59:53
  fathers, and they're abusive and they beat their wives and you know, and
• 1:59:57
  everything else. You're not gonna have any economic freedom, You're not going to
• 2:00:00
  be able to be like the characters on Sex in the City if you like,
• 2:00:04
  follow this path that is clearly doom, even though we've literally built all
• 2:00:10
  of our human societies on that very behavior to this point. But yeah,
• 2:00:14
  get rid of all that. Absolutely what women have a barden with Maybe not
• 2:00:17
  in school, but I think in school too. Well, No, in
• 2:00:20
  school they go to women studies lectures or are they're influenced by women who go
• 2:00:27
  to women studies lectures? And what do they What do women's studies teach women?
• 2:00:30
  Men construct society for their own benefit at the expense of women. The
• 2:00:36
  family is a patriarchal institution of oppression of women. Dude, do not pussy
• 2:00:44
  foot over this around this Like. The thing is that as much as we
• 2:00:48
  call out feminists, normans contribute as much to this problem because they will not
• 2:00:58
  question why we have given the center of the chessboard over to the craziest women
• 2:01:03
  on the planet. Like they won't. They won't question these fundamental aspects in
• 2:01:11
  themselves. And I have I have ideas about why, but I won't go
• 2:01:17
  into them here. All right, So there's only a little bit left in
• 2:01:21
  terms of what I've picked out, so I'll play the rest of this clip.
• 2:01:25
  Higher education levels are a proxy for higher dedication to career, and the
• 2:01:30
  career is what ultimiately interferes because there's so many things that have to be kind
• 2:01:34
  of done in your twenties under our current sort of economic model to build a
• 2:01:39
  career. And it's also this incredibly high value time frankly for consumption, Like
• 2:01:45
  there're sort of exciting adventures that make a lot less sense to have when you're
• 2:01:48
  forty than they do when you're in your twenties. And so the argument,
• 2:01:54
  the fight, the conflict that's being had is basically, on the one hand,
• 2:01:59
  sort of the call to have children and raise a family, and on
• 2:02:02
  the other hand the call to do all these other exciting things are winning battle,
• 2:02:08
  Okay, yes, And what you need to do is make being a
• 2:02:14
  mother and a wife more attractive attractive, Yes, well it is. I'm
• 2:02:19
  sure it's exciting. I mean, I know women that are like pumping out
• 2:02:24
  kids like crazy, and they love them, and as soon as they have
• 2:02:26
  one, they just want more. I'm sure you know. I've talked about
• 2:02:30
  how men desire to go on adventures, and that living a life as a
• 2:02:39
  man does have adventure baked into it, assuming that men are are free to
• 2:02:44
  pursue those things, and there's something that's worth sort of honoring and given value
• 2:02:49
  for it, which we don't do now, but but we used to.
• 2:02:54
  And so I think that for men, fatherhood is like one of the last
• 2:02:59
  adventures, is right, They get to raise their kids. It's it's how
• 2:03:02
  they it's it's their their way of achieving immortality, you could say, because
• 2:03:09
  you imbue your sons and daughters with a piece of you literally and figuratively,
• 2:03:16
  and then they go on to carry that. And when you're old and you're
• 2:03:20
  infirmed and you're sick, they take care of you. Excuse me. And
• 2:03:29
  that is the thing that we are not recognizing. And I think that's what
• 2:03:33
  is told to women, that their career and traveling and adventuring and materialism is
• 2:03:41
  more valuable than and exciting than things like family, which you know, how
• 2:03:46
  could you even say that if you've never tried it. And I think that
• 2:03:49
  it starts with a devaluing of men, devaluing of masculinity. The framing men
• 2:03:57
  is being criminal and anti social and oppressive, okay, because once you get
• 2:04:03
  the relationship right, and it's not just women pursuing careers, it's women being
• 2:04:10
  single and pursuing careers. Because even women with careers, you know, there
• 2:04:15
  could be a way to juggle the career the kids, or even perhaps she
• 2:04:21
  can forego the career for the relationship or the alternative. He can do the
• 2:04:28
  same, all right. It's getting women into the relationships that's critical, Okay.
• 2:04:34
  It's making them realize that the priorities that they have now are not making
• 2:04:43
  them happy in the long term, and that having a partner is actually like
• 2:04:49
  And this is one of the things that we've completely deconstructed in our society.
• 2:04:54
  It used to be that a married woman would have status simply because she was
• 2:04:59
  married and not because you know, like, oh oh, the women were
• 2:05:02
  worthless without men. But there was a recognition that being married meant that you
• 2:05:10
  had gotten out of your own head and learned to be a better person in
• 2:05:15
  the context of a relationship with another person. Right, So it is an
• 2:05:23
  achievement to be able to sustain a relationship with another human being. It's an
• 2:05:27
  achievement to get a man, okay, and not just like that disgusting psychopath
• 2:05:34
  in the Fifty Shades of Gray, but a man, a real man,
• 2:05:40
  and I mean real by normal. You know, maybe a tradesman, somebody
• 2:05:45
  who is bringing value to the world somehow, not some psycho fuck millionaire billionaire.
• 2:05:55
  You know. Being able to have a relationship with a man like that
• 2:05:59
  was of value you being able to make a man happy, to understand a
• 2:06:04
  man to be strong where he might need strength. That was valued. You
• 2:06:15
  know, a pioneer wife, valued home, you know, a farm wife
• 2:06:18
  valued you know, that kind of thing that had of value. Being that
• 2:06:24
  person was valuable. And yeah, surett came with a little bit of oh
• 2:06:28
  she's a spinster, that kind of thing. Well, you know what,
• 2:06:31
  if you can't make a relationship worth with somebody who can walk away from you,
• 2:06:36
  maybe you deserve to have a lesser social status. So there was a
• 2:06:43
  value to that. There's a value. There was a respect given to a
• 2:06:45
  woman who was married. There was she wasn't seen as a sad sack with
• 2:06:49
  a burden, but somebody who had achieved something of worth. Okay, that's
• 2:06:56
  completely different now, you know. We don't We don't look at like the
• 2:07:00
  Amish women and think, wow, look at those women you know, with
• 2:07:05
  you know, men who don't ever smile but are probably pretty happy, you
• 2:07:10
  know, and and keeping their families together, and everybody looks really healthy compared
• 2:07:15
  to the average American. We don't see it. We don't look at those
• 2:07:18
  women and see, you know, pillars of their community. We don't see
• 2:07:23
  strength, what do we see we see people who are who are downtrodden dad
• 2:07:29
  sacks wretches, right, because we have absolutely no respect for a married woman
• 2:07:33
  anymore. None. Yep, you know you'd we just see them as being
• 2:07:41
  being idiots who subjected themselves to burdens. And you want to you want to
• 2:07:46
  make you want to get women to the point of having children. You can't
• 2:07:50
  focus on the children. You gotta get women to the point of being in
• 2:07:54
  relationships period. You gotta get them paired up first, then we can start
• 2:08:01
  discussing the issue of children. And we got And you got to get women
• 2:08:07
  who are able to get out of their head enough to make it work with
• 2:08:13
  somebody who can walk away from them right before you give them people who can't.
• 2:08:16
  Yeah, right, and we got We gotta be in a world where
• 2:08:22
  my mom wasn't better than seventy five percent of moms out there, despite being
• 2:08:28
  goddamn one of the roughest people to live with, because she simply wouldn't have
• 2:08:33
  taken me away from my father. Right, that's where we need to be
• 2:08:37
  at h that's what we need to fix. Can we do it? Oh?
• 2:08:45
  See? And I suspect that that is not because women are just sort
• 2:08:50
  of blessed, civically minded, or like love kids less than they used to.
• 2:08:54
  I think a lot of it has to do with the uncertainty of raising
• 2:08:58
  a family. It's like one of the things that I've said before is they
• 2:09:03
  would love to have the husband and the kids and that life, but their
• 2:09:09
  paycheck clears, like they can count on it. They know that if they
• 2:09:11
  do the work, they'll get the thing, or at least it's much more
• 2:09:15
  of a sure thing than like having a successful marriage and having the kind of
• 2:09:18
  life you want. From that perspective, and I think that it's risk.
• 2:09:22
  Actually that's a good um. We are we have raised probably the weakest,
• 2:09:28
  most risk adverse generation of women in human history. I'm gonna play it,
• 2:09:33
  would it right out? They are fucking cowards, Like I can't. I'm
• 2:09:39
  I am baffled by how much they run away from responsibility with their hair like
• 2:09:48
  it's their hair is on fire, and like this is this, this level
• 2:09:54
  of cowardice and risk aversion in women. I don't think this is normal.
• 2:10:00
  No, Well, I wonder why they're so afraid. I wonder why they're
• 2:10:05
  made to feel this? Well, yes, because you know why, Well,
• 2:10:07
  my opinion, because they're taught constantly to see themselves as victims of shit
• 2:10:15
  m like the it induces a sense of learned helplessness that makes them incredibly risk
• 2:10:20
  adverse like it's it's ridiculous and you can't tell well. And also the men
• 2:10:26
  are not economically attractive, as we covered, so the women are more educated
• 2:10:33
  and they so they get this idea that they're supposed to be making more money.
• 2:10:35
  And they also believe that a man, a potential mate, should be
• 2:10:39
  making at least the same, if not more, And those men are hard
• 2:10:43
  to find. They have narrowed down, like you know, they're they've they've
• 2:10:48
  narrowed their reach for men that meet their specific criteria so much that they seem
• 2:10:54
  to be non existent. And they're afraid that if they settle, it's not
• 2:10:58
  going to be enough and not gonna be able to make it work. So
• 2:11:03
  they've they've they've sabotaged everything just about and the only thing that's gonna like he's
• 2:11:11
  identifying something, he's probably not going to go where I'm taking it. Women
• 2:11:16
  need to woman up and grab their lady balls and take the risks. That's
• 2:11:22
  what this sounds like. You need to take the risks. You need.
• 2:11:26
  You need to face the world with courage. Ye, And yeah, it's
• 2:11:31
  really freaking ironic coming from me because I got huge social anxieties. But on
• 2:11:35
  the other hand, I have taken risks and put myself out there for what
• 2:11:41
  I believe in. And you know it's you can do that and you can't
• 2:11:45
  run away from responsibility or the consequences of your actions. Like and there's no
• 2:11:50
  two ways around it. Women have to deconstruct the ship that they've been taught
• 2:11:56
  in terms of men being criminal and oppressive, and they've got to take the
• 2:12:01
  risks and they because right here, right here, he's this is a really
• 2:12:07
  interesting thing. He's saying, having a paycheck isn't a risk. Trying to
• 2:12:13
  make a work, marriage work is a risk. Having children is a risk.
• 2:12:16
  Right, It's easier to just have a paycheck, especially when you're talking
• 2:12:20
  about white collar job, all right, which is what most women have.
• 2:12:26
  So women, if women are going to be able, if we're going to
• 2:12:30
  get through this, we need tougher women. We need braver women, we
• 2:12:35
  need smarter women, we need more responsible women. And maybe we can't like
• 2:12:41
  can we do that? Can we get those women? Are you out there
• 2:12:46
  or are you insisting on drowning in a mythology of victimhood and weakness, and
• 2:12:54
  insisting that men keep stepping up when they can't get into your head and make
• 2:13:01
  you not afraid of these things. You have to do that, okay,
• 2:13:07
  all right, there's only a little left happening. Is it's just really hard
• 2:13:11
  for women and for men to connect, to get married, to stay married,
• 2:13:18
  and then to have kids together and raise them in a way that's aspirational.
• 2:13:22
  So that's I guess what I would say is what I think is causing
• 2:13:26
  it. Well, given all the sorts of things, you all right,
• 2:13:28
  I'm gonna stop it there. That's that's uh, I mean at the end
• 2:13:31
  of the day, that's basically the andya, I mean there's I figured this
• 2:13:37
  is it's been two almost two and a half hours that we've been going through
• 2:13:39
  this video. But well, I mean, is there anything okay, is
• 2:13:43
  there anything that isn't just wrapping up or just no, that's basically it.
• 2:13:48
  I mean Okay, Well, actually no, he's saying what I would say,
• 2:13:52
  what I think is causing I'm actually interested in that. Can we just
• 2:13:54
  play another twenty second already? All right? Well, given all the sorts
• 2:13:58
  of things you've talked about. Is there a possibility that governments could somehow frame
• 2:14:05
  some response to governments. He is, But I think what he's suggesting is,
• 2:14:11
  Okay, here's the thing, because I think they go into LBJ and
• 2:14:13
  stuff and that, and that is kind of, at least in the United
• 2:14:16
  States, that's the problem we don't incentivize with the government does not incentivize women
• 2:14:24
  to stay in families with husbands. They incentivize the opposite. They incentivize that
• 2:14:31
  women have children without fathers so that they get paid. And so a lot
• 2:14:37
  of women do. Now some don't because they don't think it makes sense,
• 2:14:41
  but some just see dollar signs and they do. And what we should be
• 2:14:46
  doing is disincentivizing single motherhood because not just because of the stuff that we've talked
• 2:14:52
  about in the show, but a bunch of other shit that we've talked about
• 2:14:56
  on previous shows that are the consequence of that. But that in fact,
• 2:15:00
  and this doesn't mean the government should be giving anything out. Let me let
• 2:15:03
  me put let me be clear about that. But instead we should be what
• 2:15:07
  I guess the state could do. And I think what he's going to propose
• 2:15:09
  is something like a tax break. So It's basically like, if you have
• 2:15:13
  a family and all that, you're going to be granted a reward in the
• 2:15:20
  form of, you know, lower taxes, which is something that would make
• 2:15:24
  a lot of sense. And if you have more kids than your taxes are
• 2:15:26
  even lower. I mean, why not you're paying for that, You're essentially
• 2:15:31
  paying for the next generation of workers and citizens. Right, So I think
• 2:15:37
  that's what he would I mean, as a libertarian, I think that's what
• 2:15:41
  he's going with, not like we should be giving money out because again it's
• 2:15:46
  it's not sustainable. Yes, I can see what you're saying. I like
• 2:15:54
  I said, I think that the only way through the eye of this needle
• 2:15:56
  is for women to take responsibility. And this is the hardest conversation for people
• 2:16:03
  to have. It's why you know, like a lot of people are why
• 2:16:07
  don't you grow, Why don't you do Why don't you consider getting bigger?
• 2:16:09
  I'm like, yes, that's a great idea. It's because we talk about
• 2:16:13
  this like this, we say that ultimately it's women's responsibility. I mean,
• 2:16:18
  you know, blame is irrelevant. Blame doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if
• 2:16:24
  women to blame men to blame. What matters is who has the ability to
• 2:16:28
  affect change. And right now we have put the responsibility on men for so
• 2:16:37
  long and it's not working. There's only one person left in the room take
• 2:16:43
  responsibility. And she's got to do it all right, if if she wants
• 2:16:50
  a decent life, she wants the life she wants, then she's got to
• 2:16:52
  take the risks. And it's sounding like that. I mean, even if
• 2:16:56
  women don't take the risks of approaching, even saying yes as a risk,
• 2:17:01
  even getting to the point of being married as a risk, having children as
• 2:17:05
  a risk, and that requires women with a certain amount of courage. You
• 2:17:09
  go look at the past and how women were, you know, in like
• 2:17:16
  the fifties and prior, they had guts, they had courage. They had
• 2:17:24
  to live with a lot of uncertainties in their lives now and they were prepared
• 2:17:28
  to meet that. I mean, they even had their own sort of form
• 2:17:33
  of dooicism, you know, and being reserved and not not you know,
• 2:17:41
  throwing everything out there, which is interesting to observe when you go look at
• 2:17:46
  how women acted in the past, you know, they had a certain dignity
• 2:17:52
  and quality of respect and the way that men and women acted together. They
• 2:17:56
  were partners who respected each other. Right, But we need that, We
• 2:18:05
  need women who are courageous, and if we don't have courageous women, we're
• 2:18:11
  gonna lose it all. Yep. And I don't know what else to say,
• 2:18:18
  and I know we're talking and that that message is not a message people
• 2:18:22
  want to hear because men do not want to feel like there's nothing they can
• 2:18:26
  do, and women, for again, they just run away from responsibility like
• 2:18:31
  their hair is on damn fire. I don't even know. Like I said,
• 2:18:35
  I don't understand it. If you don't, ladies, if you don't
• 2:18:39
  take responsibility, freddy, if you take responsibility for nothing, you are nothing.
• 2:18:46
  And if if it's easier to just go to work and get a paycheck
• 2:18:50
  because it's less frightening than taking the risk of loving and being loved, then
• 2:18:58
  you're a coward. And from what I've seen throughout human history, as a
• 2:19:05
  society is only healthy and brave and only has as much future as the women
• 2:19:11
  are really willing to stand up for it, to be brave for it.
• 2:19:20
  That's it. There's nothing else to say, and nobody wants to know.
• 2:19:24
  Like again, nobody wants to hear this because it's against everything we believe,
• 2:19:28
  Yeah, we believe men should save women. We believe women should be defined
• 2:19:33
  by their cowardice and their inability. That's that's feminism, is defining women by
• 2:19:39
  cowardice and inability and fear. And that's what we believe. Men. Women
• 2:19:46
  should be afraid and men should take responsibility. And we are saying the exact
• 2:19:52
  opposite. But guess what we're here now. We're at the edge of the
• 2:19:56
  abyss and everything that, all the paul tis, all the beliefs about men
• 2:20:01
  and women. That's what's brought us here. And the one thing that's going
• 2:20:05
  to take us away is going in a different direction. I know this sounds
• 2:20:09
  really strange to people. We're on the edge of the cliff. The way
• 2:20:11
  you get away from the edge of the cliff is not by going in the
• 2:20:15
  same direction as you have been going for the entire time getting to the cliff.
• 2:20:20
  It's by going turning around and going in another direction. All right,
• 2:20:26
  that is what we are saying. We need to go in another direction.
• 2:20:31
  The most difficult thing to hear. Okay, all right, so I got
• 2:20:35
  a super chow from Zaraanks. Thank you Zaranks for the super chow. Day
• 2:20:41
  is always a bit slow for everything you know. Yeah, um Zanny gives
• 2:20:48
  us five bucks and says, I think the way to getting women to consider
• 2:20:50
  having kids is community. Is it any surprise that when communities and extended families
• 2:20:54
  were disrupted by the Industrial Revolution that the nuclear family was left open to be
• 2:21:00
  negatively impacted. So men who can go anywhere it exists are now able to
• 2:21:05
  do that. But then women are most impacted because we see how they lack
• 2:21:09
  without men pursuing them. This is complicated and I have my views like getting
• 2:21:13
  government out of marriage and family. Thank you Zaranks for that. And then
• 2:21:20
  once you pop, you can't stop gives us five bucks and says can't stop,
• 2:21:24
  won't stop. Thank you llol. I'm sorry I forgot to read the
• 2:21:28
  lol part. And yeah, that's all the super chowels. And we've been
• 2:21:33
  going for about two and a half hours. So I think that's good because
• 2:21:37
  I do want people to watch this after the fact, and if they see
• 2:21:39
  how long it is, they might not, but I do think this is
• 2:21:43
  a very important conversation to have. I will end on this. This is
• 2:21:46
  the video I watched before. This was like a couple weeks ago that got
• 2:21:52
  me thinking about this problem. So I'm just gonna play a little bit of
• 2:21:54
  this. What you talk about in the book is that we actually meet the
• 2:21:58
  criteria are for being an endangered species, which is freaky and I think anybody
• 2:22:03
  listening to this is going to call BS right now because they're like, there's
• 2:22:05
  a billion of us, there's no way. But so one, is that
• 2:22:11
  a fair assessment? Are the stakes really that high? And help? I'm
• 2:22:16
  just pausing for the ban out there. It's not it's a sure, I'm
• 2:22:18
  not playing the whole thing. It's a very short bit here. So on
• 2:22:20
  Earth do we meet the qualifications for an endangered species? There's definitely a problem
• 2:22:28
  with reproductive health. And by the way, it's not just fertility. Fertility
• 2:22:33
  is one manifestation of it. There's many others. We'll talk about those,
• 2:22:37
  but fertility is a good one to start because that's something that involves man and
• 2:22:41
  the woman. So on the man side, we have declining sperm count,
• 2:22:45
  which we've documented most recently in November, showing it's worse than we thought,
• 2:22:50
  and before it was one point one six percent, it's now over two and
• 2:22:54
  a half percent. Over two points something. Yeah, I think it was
• 2:22:58
  like two I wonder if something happened recently that might have caused that. I
• 2:23:05
  don't know, Yeah, I kind of change and in the way that we
• 2:23:09
  approach yeah, our our physical integrity as it were. Okay, yeah,
• 2:23:13
  yeah, well no that's all. I'm just I'm gonna leave it there.
• 2:23:16
  She does. She mostly talks about things like, you know, plastics and
• 2:23:22
  soy and seed oils and all these other things that are contributing to this issue.
• 2:23:28
  Uh, this is all part of this sort of environmental eat. The
• 2:23:31
  bugs live in the pod mentality that's being pushed on everybody, and it's been
• 2:23:35
  pushed being pushed on people probably for longer than we've been alive us as all
• 2:23:41
  these other things. So we're kind of coming into this in the middle,
• 2:23:46
  approaching the critical point, the critical juncture, and most people are not aware
• 2:23:50
  of it. So I watched that. I watched the whole thing. That
• 2:23:54
  Tom Billy You thing is like two hours long. This, uh, Tom,
• 2:24:00
  this thing is like a half an hour. I think they're both worth
• 2:24:01
  checking out. And this guy that the guest that we were just responding to
• 2:24:07
  earlier, he has a website called natalism dot Org. I would look at
• 2:24:11
  the website, um, and he's going to be doing a talk. So
• 2:24:16
  I'm just saying I think that is if you're interested, it's it's a worth
• 2:24:20
  yes, yes, okay, Um, what about the camel? Are you
• 2:24:28
  going to show the the Oh you want me? You want me to show
• 2:24:31
  you the commercial or a whole the commercial? I will. It's pretty I
• 2:24:37
  think it's like thirty seconds. Um, okay, so yeah, you gotta
• 2:24:41
  see it. Oh yeah, I think you guys have seen this commercial.
• 2:24:45
  You must have. You must have. Yeah, it's thirty seconds. So
• 2:24:50
  let me put that in here, um, and then you guys can check
• 2:24:56
  this out. This diversity here, yeah, right off the bat, it's
• 2:24:58
  diverse. Okay, all right, here we go. Oh, guess what
• 2:25:03
  day it is? Guess what day it is? Anybody, Julie, Hey,
• 2:25:09
  guess what day it is? Oh? Come on, I know you
• 2:25:11
  can hear me. Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike. What
• 2:25:13
  day is it? Mike, Leslie, guess what today is? It's hump
• 2:25:18
  dayne how happier folks who save hundreds of dollars switching the guy home? Okay,
• 2:25:24
  the camel on Wednesday? Get happy, Mike, Mike, Mike.
• 2:25:41
  I like I like the way the secretary is like, it's humpday, like
• 2:25:46
  she knows anyway, it is humped. It is humped it. But now
• 2:25:56
  you're over the hump. Now, now you've seen in the abyss the ecological,
• 2:26:01
  demographic and economic collapse that is eminent because we refuse to like each other
• 2:26:09
  anymore. And as much as we want to blame men, I think that
• 2:26:13
  the the opening salvo game from one particular byde to the court and it wasn't
• 2:26:20
  men's um and we we do I think we really need you know, you
• 2:26:28
  got this. I keep calling the center of the chessboard. The relationship between
• 2:26:33
  men and women is the center of civil civilization's chess board. It's the most
• 2:26:39
  critical thing to get right if you want a civilization that works long term.
• 2:26:46
  And right now, you can imagine, like we have one of those chessboards
• 2:26:50
  in like a park. You know, that's a big chessboard, right,
• 2:26:54
  like with those pieces that you'd have to pick up with both hands to move.
• 2:27:01
  Yeah, we got a bunch of really crazy women squatting in the middle
• 2:27:05
  of the chessboard, muttering to themselves about patriarchy and toxic masculinity and how men
• 2:27:11
  have constructed a society for their own benefit at the expensive women and how we
• 2:27:15
  need to reduce men to ten percent of the population. All this crap.
• 2:27:18
  All right, it's time to go get them and remove them from the center
• 2:27:26
  of the chessboard. Yeah, and repair the damage that they have done.
• 2:27:33
  Okay, that's all. That's all I have to say. All right,
• 2:27:37
  Well that's it. I'm done. Yeah, I'm ready to go. So
• 2:27:41
  I no, no Patriots show today. Obviously this went long, So maybe
• 2:27:45
  maybe after tomorrow or Friday show. Yeah, just make sure we get enough
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  for the month, right, I mean, I do them when i'm when
• 2:27:52
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• 2:27:56
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• 2:29:01
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• 2:31:03
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• 2:31:07
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  Yeah, maybe maybe maybe when you know, everybody at the cliff and there
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  seems to blaming men, seems to have sort of done nothing, and they
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  Yeah, this is a this is a difficult, difficult task. But on
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