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One on One: Melina Delkic · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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Speaker 1: I Am all In.
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Speaker 2: I Am all In with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.
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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In podcast one
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Speaker 1: on one interviews. We're going to speaking with Molina Delkicch.
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Speaker 1: Let me tell you a little bit about her. She
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Speaker 1: is a senior staff editor for Breaking News. She's worked
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Speaker 1: at The New York Times since twenty eighteen. Her roles
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Speaker 1: include newsletters, business desk, the newsroom, print hub, and contributing
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Speaker 1: to coverage of the coronavirus pandemic. She has written an
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Speaker 1: article on editorial that appeared in The New York Times
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Speaker 1: talking about Gidmore Girls. Fascinating article, Melina, what inspired you
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Speaker 1: to write it now?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I've always loved Gilmore Girls. Every once in
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Speaker 3: a while you get to write about something that you
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Speaker 3: really love and are interested in, and so this was
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Speaker 3: a fun one for me, and I thought it was
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Speaker 3: interesting that with viewership data that had been coming out,
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Speaker 3: it's still one of the most popular shows across streaming,
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Speaker 3: both by Netflix's numbers and Nielsen, which is the ratings firm.
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Speaker 3: If listeners don't know that rates, you know TV and
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Speaker 3: movies and streaming popularity, and it's still one of by
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Speaker 3: far the most popular things that people like to watch,
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Speaker 3: and so with my own interest in it and that
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Speaker 3: I wanted to see why it's still so popular because it,
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Speaker 3: as you know, officially wrapped in two thousand and seven,
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Speaker 3: besides a year in the Life reboot.
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Speaker 1: And what conclusions did you draw?
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Speaker 3: Well, I think it was a mix of conclusions. I
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Speaker 3: think people love the show because it's feel good and
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Speaker 3: it makes you feel kind of and fuzzy and people,
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Speaker 3: you know, people I interviewed, like like Brenda Maybin, the
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Speaker 3: set costume designer who who said that, you know, people
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Speaker 3: like that there's no violence, there's no there's nothing that's unsolvable,
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Speaker 3: and it's going to stress you out about watching it.
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Speaker 3: It's comforting, but at the same time it is you know, deep,
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Speaker 3: there's deeply intertwined relationships, there's really interesting characters who are
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Speaker 3: multi layered and complex and and you know, so it's
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Speaker 3: it's that fun, fun, lightheartedness, but at the same time
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Speaker 3: it's there's there's some real depth there and some heart
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Speaker 3: to it.
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Speaker 1: That family dynamic is very powerful, isn't it. Anybody can
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Speaker 1: relate to it the mother daughter tension. Yes, And well,
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Speaker 1: as you said, the byline you are on your seventh
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Speaker 1: or eight time watching. Why have you watched so many times?
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Speaker 1: Why do you think people watch so many times?
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Speaker 3: That's a great question. So for me, I started watching
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Speaker 3: when I was in college actually, so, you know, similar
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Speaker 3: to a lot of people, after the show had concluded
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Speaker 3: it's run on TV, it was on Netflix and a
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Speaker 3: friend of mine said, you know, you have to watch this,
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Speaker 3: You're going to love it. And after that first time,
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Speaker 3: I was kind of hooked, and I was like, I
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Speaker 3: want to see it again. I feel like I missed something.
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Speaker 3: I you know, I want to when when things are stressful,
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Speaker 3: I want to have it on in the background, or
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Speaker 3: you know, just rewatch and find things I missed last time.
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Speaker 3: And I think for for people, I think even though
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Speaker 3: I put that I've rewatched it seven or eight times,
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Speaker 3: I think that's actually low for the Gilmore Girls audience.
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Speaker 3: I've found people have left comments on the article on
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Speaker 3: social media and on the article page itself, and my
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Speaker 3: friends have reached out that there's way higher numbers. People
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Speaker 3: are watching it dozens of times, and I think it's
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Speaker 3: you know, I think it's because it's it's that comfort.
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Speaker 3: It's there's also even a psychological aspect to it. I
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Speaker 3: talked to a clinical psychologist that rewatching a show you
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Speaker 3: love that makes you feel good and you know how
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Speaker 3: it's going to end, it makes it can actually, you know,
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Speaker 3: improve your mood. It can it can help you when
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Speaker 3: you're feeling lonely or or you know, any any tough
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Speaker 3: feelings in a stressful time. It can actually help those feelings.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 1: I also think it it contributes to keeping high culture.
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Speaker 1: I think it's so smart that and I think that's
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Speaker 1: one of the primary reasons people rewatch it so often,
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Speaker 1: because there it's so fast, that fast paced dialogue, and
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Speaker 1: there's so many obscure and arcane cultural references that people
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Speaker 1: don't get them right away. They get some, and I
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Speaker 1: get some, and then I go back and I, boy,
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Speaker 1: you know, say to myself, Amy and Dan are very
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Speaker 1: well read, and you know they're they're plucking these references
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Speaker 1: out of everything that they love and read. And I
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Speaker 1: think it's comforting to have something of quality that is
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Speaker 1: keeping the culture or trying to set a bar higher
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Speaker 1: and not talking down to an audience, not dumbing a
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Speaker 1: show down for an audience. I think it really elevates
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Speaker 1: people and it gives people a lot of hope in
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Speaker 1: that sense that at least there's something on television that
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Speaker 1: doesn't insult me. Yeah, and insult my intelligence. It's it's
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Speaker 1: demanding me to keep up, and people love that challenge.
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Speaker 3: I totally agree.
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Speaker 1: Well, you're also rewatching, as you said, it could be
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Speaker 1: a healthy coping mechanism. Mechanisms life gets stressful. When do
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Speaker 1: you tune in to watch this show? Is it in
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Speaker 1: you stressful times or just any time? Do you have
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Speaker 1: it on in the background all of the time.
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Speaker 3: That's a great question. I think I've found that I
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Speaker 3: gravitate toward Gilmore Girls in the fall, which a lot
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Speaker 3: of people I talked to for this article said the
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Speaker 3: same basically, And the viewership data supports that that it's
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Speaker 3: the viewer is a little bit higher in the fall
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Speaker 3: and winter months because it is kind of that cozy
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Speaker 3: you want to go to Luke Steiner and get your
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Speaker 3: coffee and like all the fun sweaters that are in
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Speaker 3: the in the you know, costuming of the show and
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Speaker 3: the festivals and the so it makes you feel like
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Speaker 3: fall and winter and these cozy vibes. So I find
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Speaker 3: myself watching it in those times here in New York.
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Speaker 3: It gets gloomy sometimes in the winter, and I find
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Speaker 3: it really cozy and helpful, but also definitely, you know,
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Speaker 3: in stressful times or if I'm in a in a
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Speaker 3: new place, you know, traveling for work or something, it's
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Speaker 3: it's kind of comforting. I will turn to it in
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Speaker 3: those times and have it on, like, Okay, this is
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Speaker 3: something I know and something I feel good watching.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost as if you are able to instead
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Speaker 1: of picking up a classic novel that you love, you
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Speaker 1: can just turn that on and you're going to get
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Speaker 1: the same kind of almost the same kind of quality.
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Speaker 1: You don't feel like you're watching TV. You don't feel
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Speaker 1: like you're wasting your time or it's just dead time.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's like I'm learning something here, and this
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Speaker 1: is this is wholly engaging. So you talked about the
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Speaker 1: first time you watched it was in college. Where'd you
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Speaker 1: go to college?
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Speaker 3: I went to Georgetown in DC.
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Speaker 1: Oh you went to Georgetown.
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Speaker 4: Oh?
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Speaker 1: My, one of my best buddies went to Georgetown. I
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Speaker 1: grew Paul. He was just over here the other day
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Speaker 1: telling me Georgetown stories. By the way, And so you
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Speaker 1: were in college, do you remember the moment you watched it?
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Speaker 1: Describe the day. Do you remember the vivid detail about
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Speaker 1: the first time you discovered it.
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Speaker 3: I do remember. I remember my friend Maddie and I
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Speaker 3: texted her when I was published this article to say,
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Speaker 3: thanks for turning me on to this wonderful show. And
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Speaker 3: I was I was staying on campus over the summer working. Basically,
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Speaker 3: you could work at campus job and it'd give you
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Speaker 3: free housing in DC for the summer, so it was
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Speaker 3: it was a pretty sweet deal. And I had some
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Speaker 3: downtime between these jobs I was working, and I would
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Speaker 3: put it on and campus is a little quieter in
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Speaker 3: the summer, you know, not the kids aren't there. And
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Speaker 3: I remember putting it on and just getting so quickly
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Speaker 3: wrapped up in all of the character's stories and in
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Speaker 3: the beautiful relationship between Rory and Laura l I and
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Speaker 3: and the fun you know references, and I remember like
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Speaker 3: I would like pause it sometimes and be like, wait,
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Speaker 3: what is that like that reference that they just said,
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Speaker 3: I need to go look it up? And yeah, and
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Speaker 3: I remember, and you know, I'm a journalist, so there's
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Speaker 3: obviously it was a fun kind of parallel that I
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Speaker 3: saw someone trying to start a journalism career or a
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Speaker 3: young a young woman trying to go into that world,
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Speaker 3: and I was going into that too, So it's fun
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Speaker 3: to relate to someone on screen.
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Speaker 1: Shaw, Yeah, perfect for you, Absolutely right in your whalehouse.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, as you said, Rory is an aspiring journalist,
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Speaker 1: so you obviously connected with her character the most. To
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Speaker 1: she your favorite character.
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Speaker 3: That's such a tough question. It's oh, man, I love
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Speaker 3: all of the characters so much at this point, and
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Speaker 3: I don't. I do feel like at the beginning I
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Speaker 3: really related to her and probably was drawn to watching
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Speaker 3: because of her character and Laura I, but I really
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Speaker 3: love all that. Recently I've been I was talking to
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Speaker 3: a friend the other day about how I really love
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Speaker 3: Paris Galer's character. And I know that the first time
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Speaker 3: you watch it as a you know, as a new viewer,
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Speaker 3: you're kind of like you might be turned off by
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Speaker 3: some of the things that she says. She's kind of
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Speaker 3: you know, it can be it can be abrasive as
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Speaker 3: a character, but then then you just kind of, I think,
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Speaker 3: rewatching it can kind of fall in love with her
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Speaker 3: at moments where she just she just says the funniest
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Speaker 3: thing ever. And but I mean, but yeah, I just
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Speaker 3: love I mean, everybody in the town of Stars hollow
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Speaker 3: just so great.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was my initial reaction because it's the whole
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Speaker 1: point of podcast. I'd never watched the show, so I
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Speaker 1: didn't really know the show. And yeah, I would talk
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Speaker 1: about the need for Paris to have intensive therapy and
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Speaker 1: to not be in the mainstream. But she has grown
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Speaker 1: on me. There have been a lot of moments where
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Speaker 1: I just you know, throw my head back and laugh. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and she's quite endearing at times, so it's a playing
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Speaker 1: those extremes. Do you have and I cautioned to ask
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Speaker 1: you this, and you don't have to be honest, do
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Speaker 1: you have any career parallels to her storyline? Paris Is storyline?
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Speaker 3: Oh to Paris. Yeah, well Paris, I you know, that's
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Speaker 3: that's a hard one because I mean she was in
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Speaker 3: a different career path. She ended up being like what
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Speaker 3: like a combination lawyer doctor or something, which which was like, oh,
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Speaker 3: of course, you know, Paris Scholler went down that path.
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Speaker 3: But I don't know. I you know, I do feel
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Speaker 3: like there's there's a little bit of that that Paris
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Speaker 3: ambition or spark in a lot of people, but most
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Speaker 3: of us don't push that hard as her character. Did
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Speaker 3: you know? But but yeah, I can't say I quite
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Speaker 3: approach situations the way she does.
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Speaker 4: Well, that's probably a good thing.
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Speaker 1: When did you know that you wanted to be a journalist?
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Speaker 3: It took some time of figuring it out and trying
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Speaker 3: a lot of different paths. I think I probably stressed
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Speaker 3: out my parents in college because I can't. I switched
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Speaker 3: my major like four times, and it was you know,
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Speaker 3: trying out econ, trying out different languages. But I always
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Speaker 3: in the background had that love of writing and also
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Speaker 3: was just always the news and slowly realizing that instead
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Speaker 3: of you know, being involved in it. As a school
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Speaker 3: in DC, a lot of people want to get involved
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Speaker 3: in the government, politics, things like that, and I just
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Speaker 3: kind of kept thinking, I don't want to be in it.
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Speaker 3: I want to be like observing it and you know,
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Speaker 3: helping helping write kind of the historical you know, record
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Speaker 3: about this stuff. And so that's how I made my way.
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Speaker 3: But it took a lot of small decisions and figuring
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Speaker 3: out what I what I needed.
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Speaker 1: And boy, I tell you Washington, Yeah, the time to
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Speaker 1: be a journalist. Yeah, and we won't open up that
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Speaker 1: can of worms.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, to be fair, now, I don't really deal
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Speaker 3: with any politics or government news in my job.
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Speaker 1: Probably healthiest. So The New York Times plays a big part.
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Speaker 1: In season seven, Rory turns down a job with a
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Speaker 1: new newspaper in Providence, wrote on because she's holding on
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Speaker 1: to well, she's holding out for the rest and fellowship
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Speaker 1: at the New York Times. What'd you think of this decision?
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Speaker 3: I was so with her in that season. I remember
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Speaker 3: just feeling the pressure the uncertainty of that, especially watching
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Speaker 3: it in college and in the years right after college,
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Speaker 3: because it is so I think with any career, it's
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Speaker 3: kind of you have these moments where the timing doesn't
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Speaker 3: work out the way you want it to. You don't
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Speaker 3: get to find out everything you need to find out.
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Speaker 3: You might have a job offer, but one that you
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Speaker 3: you know, and there's a deadline for it, but one
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Speaker 3: that you want more. And so I felt I felt
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Speaker 3: like it was a very very thoughtful and good representation
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Speaker 3: of what that's like as a young journalist. I think,
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Speaker 3: you know, I think she obviously like that. It was
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Speaker 3: a difficult time for her character. I remember she ended
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Speaker 3: up then not getting the New York Times fellowship, right,
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Speaker 3: If I'm remembering correctly that she had turned basically was
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Speaker 3: out of a job with both of those, but then
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Speaker 3: she ended up finding something else, and I don't remember
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Speaker 3: if it was right after that, but she ended up
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Speaker 3: going to work for an upstart publication of some sort
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Speaker 3: covering the election campaign. And I thought that was kind
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Speaker 3: of you know, I thought I related to that, because
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Speaker 3: sometimes it seems like nothing is working out, and you know,
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Speaker 3: you don't know like where your path is going to lead,
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Speaker 3: and even though it's early in your career, you have
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Speaker 3: these moments of struggle and the timing is just not
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Speaker 3: working out. But then something does work out, and it's
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Speaker 3: kind of it seemed like it was sort of a
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Speaker 3: great fit for her as an ending of that show,
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Speaker 3: and it seemed like it ended on a really hopeful
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Speaker 3: note where she was going to go travel and right
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Speaker 3: for this new publication and her work was going to
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Speaker 3: be valued, and so I think she ended up making
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Speaker 3: the right call for herself.
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Speaker 1: And you're talking about the end of season seven or
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Speaker 1: the Netflix.
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Speaker 3: Episodes the end of season Steven, Okay, am I confusing that?
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Speaker 3: I remember there was a she I thought at the
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Speaker 3: end of the show that she went to go work
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Speaker 3: for like the kind of upstart digital publication to cover
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Speaker 3: the election.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk about the Netflix episodes a little bit.
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Speaker 1: As regards Rory, were you disappointed that her journalism career
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Speaker 1: didn't pan out. Did you think it was realistic when
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Speaker 1: she was showing so much promise?
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Speaker 3: You know, I was. I think the first time I
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Speaker 3: watched that, I was a little disappointed in that we
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Speaker 3: had been with Rory and watched her be so ambitious
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Speaker 3: and so in such a go getter, and I had
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Speaker 3: dreamed of this her whole life. There's that moment with
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Speaker 3: Christian I'm on poor and then she kind of it
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Speaker 3: didn't take off, maybe the way I would have predicted
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Speaker 3: when I was, you know, twenty two, and I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 3: I want this for Rory. But I think it's realistic
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Speaker 3: in that a lot of people kind of you know,
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Speaker 3: don't have a constant, full time gig in this industry
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Speaker 3: and a lot of industries. So I think, you know,
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Speaker 3: she was freelancing for The New Yorker and and she
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Speaker 3: was doing some really great work, but it's it's kind
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Speaker 3: of representative of the sort of you know, sometimes unusual
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Speaker 3: schedules and gigs that journalists can have.
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Speaker 1: Give us your opinion on how the show portrayed journalism itself.
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Speaker 3: I remember in the A Year in the Life, there
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Speaker 3: was a moment where where Rory got a little too
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Speaker 3: close to a source. I think I'm remembering that correctly
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Speaker 3: and that that is not uh, that that's that's not
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Speaker 3: a super accurate portrayal of something that would be permissible
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Speaker 3: in a in a news job. But I remember the
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Speaker 3: rest of it feeling pretty accurate. That her her role
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Speaker 3: is like an intern in the newsroom that that Logan
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Speaker 3: Logan's dad owned, where she's just running around trying to
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Speaker 3: do everything she can and and trying to get noticed
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Speaker 3: a little bit that that seemed very accurate. And also
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Speaker 3: her writing for the paper, and I remember these moments
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Speaker 3: of her trying to stand out while not not you know,
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Speaker 3: insulting people around campus with her with her work and
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Speaker 3: finding that difficult balance of you know, trying not to
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Speaker 3: be a jerk but being really like accurate and honest.
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Speaker 3: I felt like there there were a lot of these
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Speaker 3: like kind of the early sometimes you know, things that
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Speaker 3: you have to really think through in a journalism career.
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Speaker 1: Were are there any without naming names, are there any
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Speaker 1: minsh of hunts Burgers at the New York Times.
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Speaker 3: No, no, fortunately, not.
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Speaker 1: Have you ever encountered a personality like that? And in
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Speaker 1: your years of being a journalist, Oh.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think as a young as a young woman journalist,
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Speaker 3: you definitely come across I mean, anyone, as a young
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Speaker 3: journalist in your career, you come across personalities that are
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Speaker 3: you know that everybody has that moment where someone tells
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Speaker 3: them you're not going to make it, You're not good enough,
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Speaker 3: You're you know X and Y. And I definitely had
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Speaker 3: that when I was in college. And yeah, and I actually,
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Speaker 3: you know, I feel like I hear a lot of
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Speaker 3: these types of stories that people have in different careers,
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Speaker 3: but also in journalism. And maybe it's just because it's
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Speaker 3: so competitive at times that but you know, hopefully you
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Speaker 3: you learn from it, but you don't take it too seriously.
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Speaker 3: And I think that's I remember that's what Rory did.
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Speaker 3: That she kind of she went back to journalism and
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Speaker 3: went back to Yale.
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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. What does the show mean to you?
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Speaker 3: It's a it's a big answer. It's I really love
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Speaker 3: the show. It's it's just one of those things that
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Speaker 3: I'm like, how is this so good? It's I could
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Speaker 3: rewatch it ten more times and I probably will over
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Speaker 3: the course of you know, however many years that takes.
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Speaker 3: And it's it's just, you know, supported me in difficult times.
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Speaker 3: It's made me laugh, it's you know, comforting, and I
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Speaker 3: love it and I love how much it means to
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Speaker 3: so many other people too.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is quite a phenomenon.
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 1: It really has become this, uh, this iconic piece of
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Speaker 1: art that that that is woven into the fabric of
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Speaker 1: this country. And it's I don't know, it's sort of
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Speaker 1: taken a place in in in entertainment culture that is
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Speaker 1: completely unexpected and something I don't think anybody so common, right,
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Speaker 1: I mean, how do you how do you predict this?
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Speaker 1: It's uh, it's quite extraordinary. We're going to play a
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Speaker 1: little game right now called rapid Fire. Okay, right, uh huh.
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Speaker 1: And you don't have to we don't have to be
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Speaker 1: fast with us. It doesn't have to be rapid. How
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Speaker 1: do you like your coffee?
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Speaker 3: Black?
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Speaker 1: Are your Team Logan, Team Jess or Team Dean?
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Speaker 3: Oh? So hard? I when I was younger, I was
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Speaker 3: Team Logan because I thought that's where Rory is going
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Speaker 3: and she she you know, needs someone who who respects
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Speaker 3: her intellect and her career. But now I'm like, you know,
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Speaker 3: who's of a jerk sometimes? So maybe I'm maybe I'm
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Speaker 3: a little bit team just now.
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Speaker 1: I'm kind of with you on that. You know, I
21:07
Speaker 1: was riding the logan wave pretty for a couple of seasons,
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Speaker 1: but now I think I'm getting back on the jet thing.
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Speaker 3: I love how it changes for you too.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it does, because but that's you know,
21:22
Speaker 1: a testament to the writing, isn't it. You know, ye
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Speaker 1: can flip the fans like that, who's your favorite Gilmore
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Speaker 1: Girls couple, Luke and Laurele I or Emily.
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Speaker 3: And Richard Luke and Laurel I for sure. I think
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Speaker 3: I wrote in my email responding to your team, like
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Speaker 3: I was team Luke all the way in the in
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Speaker 3: the show. And I recently learned that I didn't even
21:47
Speaker 3: think there was a debate on Laurel I's other romantic partners.
21:50
Speaker 3: But I was like, no, it's it's Laurea I and Luke.
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Speaker 1: Right, I I was. I was always uh dumbfounded that
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Speaker 1: there was even a debate about it. And you know,
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Speaker 1: I think the network, as a marketing tool tried to
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Speaker 1: engage the base with well, let's you know, let's make
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Speaker 1: another like is, let's make another contest out of it.
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Speaker 1: Would you rather work with Michelle or Kirk oh Man?
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Speaker 3: I love them both, and Kirk is just everywhere, but
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Speaker 3: he's kind of a goof, So maybe I would have
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Speaker 3: to say Michelle for the for the competency factor.
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Speaker 1: What would you order at Luke's Diner?
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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, if you know, if I only could,
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Speaker 3: I would get a black coffee in one of the
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Speaker 3: giant mugs. I would have waffles, waffles, syrup, the whole
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Speaker 3: the whole thing. And then it, depending on the time
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Speaker 3: of day. If it's later in the day, We're going burger. Absolutely.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about this, what if there
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Speaker 1: were a chain of Luke's Diners? Would you go?
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Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred percent?
23:04
Speaker 1: Do you think people would go? Do you think that's
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Speaker 1: a good idea?
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Speaker 3: I think that's a great idea. We're always going to
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Speaker 3: diners here in New York. You know, when you really
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Speaker 3: get a craving for like good food, that's not that's
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Speaker 3: not overpriced, that's not overdoing it. It's that you want
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Speaker 3: a diner, and especially the whole environment of Lukes. It's great.
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Speaker 1: You would you like to go to a Lukes Diner
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Speaker 1: that is a replica of the TV one or would
23:34
Speaker 1: you want it to be more of an experience where
23:37
Speaker 1: it's like got really comfortable booths and it's got the
23:39
Speaker 1: memorabilia all over the walls, and it's got a room
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Speaker 1: where you can actually watch the shows and it's you
23:45
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, it's like a it's it's like
23:47
Speaker 1: a comfy, high tech version of Luke's. Uh, that's more
23:51
Speaker 1: would be more comfortable than you know, the original diner
23:57
Speaker 1: because I think do you think people would just sort
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Speaker 1: of visit it once or twice if it was like
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Speaker 1: the original Lukes Dinners chasing after nostalgia, but not come
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Speaker 1: back so much? But what do you.
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Speaker 4: Think about that?
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Speaker 3: I think that's a good question. I think both would
24:13
Speaker 3: be popular for sure. But I think you're right that
24:17
Speaker 3: if you if you wanted to keep coming back and
24:20
Speaker 3: have something as your go to diner spot, you'd want
24:24
Speaker 3: the maybe a little bit more comfortable option.
24:27
Speaker 1: You'd want all the bells and whistles, you know. Yeah, yeah,
24:30
Speaker 1: competitive space anyway. Interesting. Who would you rather hang out with?
24:36
Speaker 1: Paris or Lane?
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Speaker 4: Oh?
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Speaker 3: Definitely lane definitely.
24:44
Speaker 1: Do you play an instrument you could be in your band?
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Speaker 3: I do? I have a guitar, right, you do. I
24:50
Speaker 3: started learning guitar in the early pandemic, and then I
24:53
Speaker 3: grew up playing piano, keyboard. Oh that's great, and so
24:57
Speaker 3: I would love to there. That was such a fun
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Speaker 3: plot point for me. Their their band and the whole
25:03
Speaker 3: growth of their musical life.
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Speaker 4: Who do you like?
25:06
Speaker 1: Who are your Who are you partial to? Who you
25:09
Speaker 1: like listening to?
25:10
Speaker 3: Oh? Musically I love it? Really runs the gamut. I
25:15
Speaker 3: recently this was so impulsive to me, but I splurged
25:20
Speaker 3: on Joni Mitchell tickets and oh, there you go, because
25:23
Speaker 3: she's my absolute favorite of all time. But then also
25:28
Speaker 3: Beyonce is also my favorite of all time. So it's
25:30
Speaker 3: kind of like interest really run the game. But I
25:33
Speaker 3: also love rock and you know, listen to the Ramones.
25:36
Speaker 3: I feel like, if you live in Brooklyn, you have
25:37
Speaker 3: to Fleetwood Mac all the good stuff.
25:41
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I was listening to some Stevie Nick yesterday.
25:44
Speaker 1: She's extraordinary. Uh yeah, Joni Mitchell in my youth, big influence.
25:50
Speaker 1: I loved her, loved those albums.
25:52
Speaker 4: What a talent, What a talent?
25:56
Speaker 1: If if you love piano music. There's a have you
26:00
Speaker 1: heard of Keith Jarrett No, Oh, okay, so nineteen seventy five.
26:09
Speaker 1: This is a guy who was classically trained. They were
26:11
Speaker 1: grooming him for you know, the concert stage and the
26:14
Speaker 1: whole thing. He was a child prodigy and he left
26:17
Speaker 1: it all to play jazz.
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Speaker 4: Wow.
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Speaker 1: He wanted to write his own material and perform his
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Speaker 1: own material, so he turned into this justice mind blowing artist,
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Speaker 1: master of the keyboards. Yeah, so there's something you should
26:36
Speaker 1: It's going to affect you. It's going to hit you
26:38
Speaker 1: really deeply. These songs are really earth shattering. Keith Jarrett
26:47
Speaker 1: Coln concert liveko in Germany, Colm, Germany, and it's one
26:53
Speaker 1: of the most remarkable pieces of music I've ever heard.
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Speaker 3: Wow, I have to listen. I'm excited.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so get that. Get that Harvard or Yale, or
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Speaker 1: drop out and live in the poolhouse.
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Speaker 3: Oh oh man. The third option is so tempting now
27:10
Speaker 3: as a as a burnt out twenty eight year old,
27:13
Speaker 3: But I think, oh man, both both are such great schools.
27:18
Speaker 3: I think, you know, I've always wanted to live in
27:21
Speaker 3: Boston area, so I would say Harvard if I were
27:24
Speaker 3: there right now.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, would you rather attend a dar event with Emily
27:29
Speaker 1: or a town meeting with Taylor?
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Speaker 3: Oh, town meeting for sure. That really just sounds like
27:35
Speaker 3: I could bring my popcorn. I would be entertained for hours.
27:39
Speaker 1: Right, Gilmore Girls, character that you would most want as
27:44
Speaker 1: a roommate?
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Speaker 3: Ooh, Larelei? I think Lorelei. She would be fun. She's not,
27:53
Speaker 3: you know, so intense, like a like a Paris galer
27:56
Speaker 3: or somebody. She you know, would be easy going and
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Speaker 3: not you know, not too much.
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Speaker 1: Chaos, something in your life that you are all in on.
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Speaker 3: Oh well, since it is Valentine's Day, I'll say my
28:11
Speaker 3: my relationship, shout out to my boyfriend Sean. And also
28:17
Speaker 3: we have a little dog. He's a little corgy named Mark,
28:21
Speaker 3: and so I would say he's the most spoiled dog
28:23
Speaker 3: in the world. So we're all in on him too.
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Speaker 1: Molina has been a pleasure, and your article Gilmore Girls
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Speaker 1: is an endless buffet of TV comfort food. I recommend
28:37
Speaker 1: everybody reading this article good luck with your journalism career
28:41
Speaker 1: going forward. Thank you so much, and keep watching. I
28:44
Speaker 1: absolutely will, yes, because I know I will and everybody does,
28:48
Speaker 1: and it's it's inevitable isn't it. Yes, anyway, thanks for
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Speaker 1: coming on. It was it was great fun.
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Speaker 3: It was so fun. Thank you so much.
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Speaker 4: Set all right, take care, bye.
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