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Know the Enemy: North Carolina · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast.
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  I'm Curtis Wilson. I'm Brian seagull, buddy.
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  We're back on a Tuesday. How you feeling tonight, man?
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  I'm feeling good, man. It is Tuesday night.
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  We got another hate week. Ahead of us with the hate week
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  of North Carolina. How you feeling?
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  Hi, Brian. I'm feeling good man, we got it.
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  We got a big guest on the kind of opened things up.
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  So I'm really excited about that.
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  Well, without further Further Ado let's bring him on the
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  starting Sam linebacker for your and our Virginia Tech Hokies.
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  He is from General Bo High School in Duval County,
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  Jacksonville Florida. Boundary Corner fans.
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  We introduce to you key. On to Jenkins.
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  Yeah, we're doing good tonight, man.
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  How are you doing tonight? I'm doing good.
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  I'm doing good blessed to be here.
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  Child on the podcast, man. Man, we really appreciate you
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  taking a few minutes out of your hectic, schedule this week.
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  Obviously, little hate week. It's Carolina week.
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  You guys are traveling Chapel Hill.
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  We really appreciate you taking time.
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  Obviously, we know between school, practicing, all that you
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  are a busy guy. Starting Sam linebacker for the
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  school. We thank you for taking your
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  time to talk with us a little bit tonight.
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  Yeah. Yeah we're going to lead off
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  with this, you know, the big thing coming into the seasons.
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  The big, the big position switch for you, right?
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  Moving from safety down to Sam linebacker.
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  So your four games into the position that you did really
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  think you be playing kind of especially at the end of last
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  season coming at the start of this season.
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  You know, but we've seen some really good on feel results.
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  So far. How do you feel the adjustment
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  to play in? Sam is gone for you at this
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  point in the season, I think it was a great opportunity for me.
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  I think it was probably one of the best things I probably
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  happen for me to get on the field and be able to make plays
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  and just build my resume with my name.
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  The change was different, it was very unexpected but I try to
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  make an opportunity and just take it head-on.
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  Absolutely and obviously you know we were chit-chatting right
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  before Chianti jumped on here and we were talking about that
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  hit it BC. Well, you caught that guy about
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  seven yards behind the line of scrimmage.
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  Him, Dom Brown was in the crowd that night and I love what you
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  said. You said, when you made that hit
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  and you heard the crowd about how electric it was, man, how
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  like they're very, let you. But what are those feelings?
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  Like when you're in front of main stadium and you make a big
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  play, you know, how does that feel?
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  Does that does that take your address?
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  To a level unseen. Yeah, Jenna to be pumping.
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  You want to tear it down? You make a big play in a bad
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  field. Tackle for loss.
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  I mean the crowd going crazy, players, going crazy, everybody
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  going crazy. It just unreal moment.
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  A very unreal moment for me. I saw that I love that.
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  It's all being in the crowd. I mean, you just you heard the
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  like it was. Yeah, we saw it coming to.
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  We saw it coming. It was dead to rights before you
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  even got there. So with the adjustments you know
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  is it has it been a lot like or is it still that style of play?
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  You brought, you know, coming in as a safety?
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  Is it still a lot of things you can key on from plane safety?
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  With with other side, I tend to take a lot of my attributes from
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  safety as in covering him covering wise and just speed and
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  just being more athletic than more Lyman, that I'd be have to
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  go against. But the more challenging part of
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  be, just when I'm actually in a box are just this seeing lime
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  and Senior Keys, a little fast, I'm closer to the ball.
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  So things happen a little faster but I definitely think the
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  transition from safety down till I'm back.
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  Give me a most Advantage, most advantage of a lot of teams, a
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  lot of players because I have a Very match speed.
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  When I'm either come across the edge or even covering tight
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  ends, it seem more natural to me.
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  Yeah, it's a new close to the ball.
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  I mean I can definitely see you making plays in the backfield a
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  lot more tackles for loss. So that I mean that's that's a
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  big asset for the team for sure abso-freakin'-lutely.
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  And so far this year, I mean we've talked about a couple
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  tight ends and I know against BC, I mean, they're guy had a
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  big week 1 against Rutgers. We didn't hear his name called
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  too much and I know, you know, you were part of that which is
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  awesome to hear. Let me go with this.
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  Let's talk about last Thursday night, just a little bit, you
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  know, rough lost to us. Virginia after that game, what
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  was coach prize matches to the team, emotional loss?
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  You know at home rivalry game you know what was his message to
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  you guys in the locker room after that game?
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  I mean, the biggest, the biggest part I got his message with just
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  sticking together playing together.
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  Being one sale, just all believe in and fighting all the way to
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  the end. Just having a will to win coach
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  browser. Very competitive coach.
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  He, he won't all his people to be competitive, so just just to
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  compete all the way to the end. Follow it to the end, and just
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  be more disciplined. I think that was probably one of
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  the biggest things to being disciplined.
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  Has the has the focus on the competitiveness, you know.
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  It does that have anything to do with some of the penalties that
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  we've come up with, is it just like pressing or is it just
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  playing kind of outside of the framework, trying to trying to
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  compete that every rep or is just a combination of a lot of
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  different things? I think it just competitiveness
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  in the motion competitiveness, and emotion, take over and big
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  gains. And sometimes people rely more
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  on these skills and technique, but coach by always close your
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  eyes. A bit fundamental guy.
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  He preached the technique just doing the fundamentals and just
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  playing within the framework. And I think, once we get that
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  down and once we all become together and show how poisonous
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  is and how it changed the game will be a very more productive.
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  I like that. Yeah, and speaking of those
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  penalties you know been hit hard by both of those in both of the
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  losses at this point in the season.
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  Has that been a point of emphasis during those Sunday
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  correction practices that you guys have been having and how
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  those practices helped in preparing for the next week's
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  opponent. It Dyna correction print, a
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  correction practice on Sunday as being a very, very emphasized on
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  penalties. And how much if we just take the
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  pennies away and make them earn everything, how much the results
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  of change? So coach, probably definitely
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  preaches, making them learn and not giving it to.
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  So, we doing that. I think that cat is all came up
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  with a plan to help everybody. Just notice how important a pill
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  and he's a high point, a change, the game's definitely a bit Time
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  moments later on 4th are late Downs on fourth down that they
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  can change. It and I tell you what it is, it
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  is showing with this defense. When you guys are forcing teams
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  to drive the fields, they make mistakes, you know, we saw the
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  fumble against West Virginia, we've seen the pics, we've seen
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  the big tackles for loss. We've seen them in bad down and
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  distances. So I love that emphasis and I
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  love that I can hear it in your voice like you know, like we
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  clean this up. Yeah.
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  There's not a lot of teams that are going to consistently move
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  the ball on us. They're going to make mistakes.
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  They're gonna take big. Glosses.
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  And it's awesome to hear that. And it's awesome to hear that.
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  It sounds like there's things in place that, you know, that you
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  guys are working towards to clean it up.
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  Yes, let's flip over. Let's talk about some of your
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  coaches here. So, your coach is your coach
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  position coaches Coach Quin. One of the new coaches here, but
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  obviously, that's a position. We know it's working some with
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  the defensive backs and Coach Priscilla.
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  We know it's working with Coach Marv with the mic in the way.
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  What is that Dynamic like between, you know, those three
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  coaches since you probably get to see them more on a daily
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  basis than other groups. I think just being coached by
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  all three of them. Just give me a vintage advantage
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  in the learning process because I'm getting insane coaching with
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  Coach Quin. Coach Quin is a very detailed
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  coach with detail. And there goes, mark this
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  energetic and just playing playing behind the line of
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  scrimmage and being a force and being the hammer.
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  Then you got Coach P with just how he coaches his easy to
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  understand. So I me, I'll watch film with
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  the safety's, a large, and I watch film with the line because
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  I like getting feedback from everyone just improve my game.
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  So I definitely go to all three coaches for help with anything
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  that I need and they all give it to me.
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  I absolutely loved it. That Chris Mark talks about
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  bringing the hammer down. And I mean, coach Prelude, I
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  mean, you know, he is one of the EOS one of The Originals back
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  when we, we told you, we told you we'd like, 95 was like our
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  first year coach Prelude on those teams.
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  And then, you know, a guy, how is he looked at?
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  Because you guys are of the age coach Prelude, when you were
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  younger was still in the league, he's got that ring with the st.
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  We're like. Is he one of those guys when he
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  speaks is it kind of, like, do does everybody's head turned in
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  the room because of who he is, you know, as an originator of DB
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  you and then all that time league and now he's back
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  coaching at his alma mater. Coach the Coach P.
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  Got one of the voices when he when he told everybody just
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  listens, it will just listens and he witnessed his parents had
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  a lead. He know what it takes to be
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  great. He played here, he played on
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  championship teams, he played on very good teams so he know what
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  it takes to be great and to get the v t, as a hold of e.t.
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  Defense to where they need to be to win games.
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  So, we take all our details and all the information they give
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  us, we take it in and put it on the field, man.
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  That is that is awesome. I mean, it's awesome because you
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  just feel that Which coach for a loop.
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  Let's talk a little bit about Coach point because, you know,
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  obviously he is your specific position coach, is he is genuine
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  behind the scenes. Is it seen publicly?
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  I mean we always see him out there, you know, breaking bread
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  hokey style, the man is finding, you know, the diner's, he is the
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  Diners Drive-Ins and Dives king of Virginia Tech Twitter because
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  he's asked any he's being genuine.
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  He's asked us fans like, you know, I'm in Richmond today.
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  What's a good spot? What's a good?
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  Local spot. I can try.
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  Is he like that behind the scenes and, you know, yeah, I
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  think coach clear, probably one of the coaches who he, who, he,
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  who he is every day, he the same guy every day.
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  I mean and then we'll definitely with the.
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  He inspires. I'm a type of person.
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  I don't eat. I don't eat out a lot.
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  I don't try different. He always try to introduce me to
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  new things to eat or hanging out, just to get me to be just
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  more like, just those floor, more be more social.
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  So, yeah, he wanted a, if I come in, if I come to practice with a
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  down, I had, A bad as him, you know, how to uplift.
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  You always did smiling it, you have a joke for you too.
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  So it's good. How coach going around that fly
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  high energy and positive energy. That's awesome.
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  Yeah, it's good to have guys that you know, that, you know,
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  if things are going are too high, too low.
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  They're always going to be the same thing to you.
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  They going, they're going to do with give you what you need to
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  get you, right. Whether that's bring you down a
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  little bit of lift you up a little bit, so it's always good
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  to have that type of presence on the team for sure.
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  Let's let's pivot a little a bit to what we're going to look at
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  this week with, with UNC. Obviously, the big big talk
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  right now is everything happening on with the weather.
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  We're looking at potential hurricane game part two with,
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  with UNC down in Chapel Hill has as coach Pride coach Mark Coach
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  Quin Coach P low have they talked about potential weather
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  conditions on Saturday and how that can potentially affect the
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  preparation for y'all. That's we, as of I haven't
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  haven't talked about it a lot a lot, but I know that it's being
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  brought up. We have like different, like
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  different. I want to see things that will
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  go to if it become a hurricane game with different strategy
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  with different scheme. Different things that we bet
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  that we've seen from in the past would have passed them to think
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  they like to go to it. Just how comfortable they'll be
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  what this weather condition but coach prize one of them guys.
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  You did. He.
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  This is this is like what he'd like he want us to be in the
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  trenches. He want us to be the worst.
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  The worst, they can be just to go ahead and perform, so I'm
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  pretty sure he excited. If it was a hurricane, I played
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  in one of those type of games before and it's intense, but you
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  gotta win in the trenches. And that's the big thing that if
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  you're not winning in the trenches, it's going to be a
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  long, long day. Well, I'm sitting here thinking,
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  right now, the way key, I'm just describing coach Frey, like,
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  coach prize, probably at The Weather Channel tonight.
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  Yeah. Yeah, 3:30.
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  It's going to be pouring down rain and 15 mile an hour.
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  Winds. Yes, one inch of rain between 11
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  a.m. and 7 p.m. bring it on. Thanks coach frightened that
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  Flint to hear, man. Let me guess this about about
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  you and see is there, is there a specific component of their
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  offense? That has kind of been an
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  emphasis for you in the preparation so far this week?
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  Biz mainly stopping the Run game stopped on the ranking.
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  They got a nice quarterback, nice town in the quarterback so
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  just making him uncomfortable, trying to get some as much as
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  you can but just as of right now, just stopping the ranking.
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  Yeah. And that's going to be key with
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  that weather for sure. Absolutely.
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  Alright. Before we before we let you out
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  of here, get you some rest. You've kind of already said it
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  you not a big going out to eat guy but obviously you've been in
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  Blacksburg since 2020. You know, this is now your third
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  year. There what is sort of your food
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  spot to go to in Blacksburg? I me as a recently.
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  I've been trying to the space right there by Waffle House.
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  It's called black so black, okay.
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  Okay, yeah, black wings are so big.
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  How sweet chili. I think, since we typically
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  know, my favorite thing, double back in the same day, a man
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  after my own heart, we got a local spot that does some sweet
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  chili Wings, pretty good here. So, we were right on the same.
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  Wavelength are like Sophia for those who are watching in the
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  Blacksburg area. Y'all need to go buy black salt,
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  tell them Kiante Jenkins should be getting a sponsor.
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  And then I'll deal to talk about the sweet chili Wings, babe.
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  I got some good wings. I like awesome Wilkie on te, you
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  know, we really again, we really, really appreciate you
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  taking out a few minutes of your day to talk with us to talk with
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  Hokie Nation, you know, best of luck on Saturday.
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  We will be watching you because I think we're probably me and
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  Brian we're talking we're pretty determined that it's probably
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  going to be rainy so we're not going to get much done.
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  So we're going to be sitting in Iron man, caves screaming Arlo
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  Lungs out and hoping we got nothing but the college football
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  all day with the Hokies very 3:30.
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  Ryofu. If it will fit an energy, man
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  will feel the energy from Chapel Hill, good.
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  You you continue to do what you do, man.
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  You know, Play Hard Play Smart in continue to be that sort of,
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  you know, like talking with us tonight, man.
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  You know, it again is appreciated and we can see that
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  not only does playing football for this school mean a lot to
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  you, but this school in general means a lot to you.
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  And, you know, we Really appreciate that man and you take
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  care of yourself and hopefully next time we're in Blacksburg
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  will look you up. Thank you, thank you for having
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  me. I'm very blessed to be on the
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  park. It's nice to have.
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  You got there? All right buddy.
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  Well there we go. There's the first part of our
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  episode. We got to talk with Keyon to
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  Jenkins again. We really appreciate him for
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  coming on. We really appreciate Travis
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  Wells for giving us the opportunity.
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  Travis thank you, man. You don't know, you know, with
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  two guys that just started a fun podcast in February at 2020.
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  I don't think. I think Wildest Dreams Braun,
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  you know. We've got an interview to White
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  and Darrell and now, you know, interviewing something like when
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  like kyanka, who clearly on this team this year is making an
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  impact. It's Sam big-time rising star on
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  the team for sure big-time Rising Star.
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  Absolutely. So we'll go ahead and shut that
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  and we're going to move on. And we've got to recap it
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  unfortunately, you know, Kiante just talked about it.
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  There about Coach prize, message about being disciplined about
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  sticking together throughout it. But we do need to take a look
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  back at Virginia and you know, talk about a few things.
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  Obviously, everybody watch Thursday night hook.
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  He's go down 3310 to The Mountaineers in the Black
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  Diamond trophy game Hokies go to 2 and 2.
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  And you know what we've been doing normally is we've been
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  kind of looking offense defense but now we're four games in,
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  right? Brian and you were having a
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  conversation on Friday You know. What can be fixed, what can't be
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  fixed? What's going well, and what's
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  kind of still that TBD Dairy. So that's how we're going to
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  kind of dress it tonight. And, and I love that Keon.
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  So, kind of already talked about it as we led, the episode talked
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  about being disciplined, talked about them working on the
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  penalties, because that is probably one of the biggest
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  things that we've already seen it fixed once.
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  But now, can they get back in one more time and get it
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  corrected and keep it correct. What do you think Ron?
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  Yeah, I think it's the consistency with it and I like
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  that. I know he alluded to it with
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  the, with the question. There we saw it come down with
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  the, with the interview with prior today.
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  Captains have instituted, you know, some some sort of
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  Correction punishment should penalties like this continue.
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  I think that, you know, having that incentive, I think that's a
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  good incentive to have for the team.
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  It makes them accountable for, for what they do on the field.
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  And, you know, again, it's a correctable thing.
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  We've Got we got a lot of penalties that lengthened drives
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  into drives, you know, another 15 for 132 total you like to cut
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  both of those numbers at least in half.
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  Yes, at least in half at least in half.
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  So you know if we were in that six to seven for 460 65, you
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  know, I wouldn't have as much to complain about.
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  But you know, when you get kind of in that 10 to 15 range.
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  That's when it's like, all right, some of these are are
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  ones that we shouldn't be committing and it hurts even
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  more when you have ones that are, you know, those, those
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  Drive killers in those Drive extenders.
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  Those are the ones that take points off the board, put points
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  on the board for the other team. Absolutely I want to give a
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  shout out here. David Cunningham put a really
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  good tweet at the end of that game, talking about penalties.
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  And you know the pi pass is. I think the aggressiveness of
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  the defense we're just going to see more and I read We'll do it.
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  Put up one of the posters on TS L said, you know, we're already
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  at the number of pi penalties of where we were last year.
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  But the god honest truth is our, our pest defense is a hell of a
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  lot better than it was last year already.
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  So are you okay, you know, can you live with extra penalties?
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  If overall the defense is better?
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  I think we absolutely can, but it's the other shit that kind of
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  drives us crazy. Indefinitely rise.
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  Brian crazy, two false starts and illegal substitution in the
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  legal snap and offside. There will be a delay of game
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  penalty. Those are the ones that just
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  their nicking you. Well, that's up here.
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  Yeah, it's up here. Yeah, there you go.
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  It's one thing to be in the moment and make a mistake.
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  It's another thing to make a mental error and especially when
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  you making those mental errors in your own stadium, you know,
• 21:01
  it's not you're not affected by the crowd noise.
• 21:03
  You're not affected by, you know, these ancillary factors of
• 21:09
  the game, you're affected by your mental state.
• 21:13
  You got to make sure that you're playing smart and I think we
• 21:18
  need to see a little bit more of that.
• 21:19
  And I think the accountability is going to help on that front
• 21:23
  because now you're just your teammate.
• 21:25
  Accountability is important. But teammate.
• 21:27
  Accountability that has, you know, something behind it.
• 21:31
  I think you know is only going to reinforce that but it's also
• 21:36
  good to know that coach pry not stuck in his ways right because
• 21:40
  clearly they have there had been things done.
• 21:42
  Prior to attempt to fix the penalties and he's not going
• 21:46
  back to the well, one more time. He's immediately saying, okay,
• 21:48
  we need to make a change for it because, you know, it's, it's
• 21:53
  linked, it's reared, its head again.
• 21:54
  So clearly what he said were two data points is enough.
• 21:57
  Yeah I don't I don't need any more data points to say that we
• 22:02
  need to address this differently so you got to respect him.
• 22:06
  Not just sitting back and saying, we do what we do.
• 22:10
  You know if things become a Bigger problem than he he sees,
• 22:14
  or than they should be. Then they are addressed, you
• 22:18
  know, whether whether this turns out in helps on the field, but
• 22:22
  at least, you know, you're not just saying our, we're going to
• 22:24
  do what we do. This is what we do.
• 22:26
  Yeah, keep it moving, keep it moving.
• 22:28
  Now, we are going to kind of go a little bit towards the game
• 22:31
  itself, those rest for fucking horrible.
• 22:35
  And if you only want to get Brian hot asking about hands to
• 22:38
  the face, the one that they got Pollard on Brian's texted me.
• 22:43
  Fucking bullshit. They've done it to us at least
• 22:45
  four times. If you're going to call it,
• 22:48
  throw it both ways because it's clearly there in front of you
• 22:51
  for them. That was my probably I'll be
• 22:53
  look at the replay. It's obvious foul on Pollard.
• 22:55
  I mean, it is what it is. But, yeah, I mean between that,
• 23:00
  and Milam holding, every time they went to the perimeter,
• 23:05
  like, every time, like blatant holding, every time they ran ran
• 23:09
  the ball to the perimeter. Like, You know, flags are flags,
• 23:14
  mistakes are mistakes, but call it both ways, call it both ways,
• 23:18
  and then don't call bullshit. Because that personal foul
• 23:22
  roughing the QB on Dax, it was bullshit Daniel's in his motion
• 23:27
  to throw Dax did nothing but shove he didn't drive him to the
• 23:31
  ground, he didn't follow with him.
• 23:34
  It was simply, he was doing exactly what you're taught to do
• 23:38
  drive. He didn't do anything illegal.
• 23:40
  He didn't do anything dangerous. But it seemed like on fourth
• 23:44
  down. That was the time that there's a
• 23:46
  flag. It wasn't in even though I think
• 23:48
  at that point in time was a six-point game, they would go
• 23:50
  score the touchdown and turn it to 13.
• 23:54
  It was a momentum swinging flag. Do I think we could have drove
• 23:57
  the film potentially taking the lead?
• 23:58
  Probably not offense. Did not look good on Thursday
• 24:01
  night, especially in the second half, especially in the second
• 24:04
  half. I mean, at least the first half,
• 24:06
  we had some moves. We had some chances the second
• 24:08
  half just look Dreadful. The second half.
• 24:10
  We had scoring opportunity. I'm sorry.
• 24:12
  The first half, we had scored opportunities.
• 24:14
  We put 10 on the board in the second half.
• 24:17
  Yeah yeah. So you know I just don't like
• 24:21
  that like because you're essentially taking every
• 24:25
  opportunity the defense has a way because that being a penalty
• 24:30
  basically makes every quarterback just say well I'm
• 24:32
  going to throw it because if he's going to throw the flag
• 24:34
  whether I complete the pass or not we're going to get a first
• 24:37
  down so yeah. All right, let's go to something
• 24:40
  else and it's actually I love to have any countdown because some
• 24:43
  of the points were talking about it sounds like Daria.
• 24:46
  Dressing and it's talking about the pressing of the players and
• 24:49
  one of our good buddies, JJ Singleton chat with them all the
• 24:52
  time, put a little something out there.
• 24:55
  Brian, you sort of echo to in it.
• 24:57
  Basically, when he says, when he says price saying, the that the
• 25:02
  players start pressing, he's basically saying the players are
• 25:05
  realizing that individually. They're outmatched.
• 25:08
  And when they quit working together, what was Chianti?
• 25:11
  Talking about staying together working as a team.
• 25:14
  That's when the game playing crumbles.
• 25:17
  And, you know, the question is, we saw it in b.c. you are alive
• 25:25
  at hand. I watch every snap at the game
• 25:27
  here at the house against BC, they didn't press against BC.
• 25:31
  They just let that game come to them and to this point
• 25:37
  definitely the best both sides of the ball is played.
• 25:41
  Yeah, I mean, you thought you talked to Big about trusting
• 25:43
  your Technique leaning on your Technique instead of you know,
• 25:48
  pressing too hard to make a play if you lean on your Technique,
• 25:52
  And you're playing within the system, you're going to put
• 25:55
  yourself in a position to make a play.
• 25:58
  You don't need to kind of play with outside that framework and
• 26:05
  yeah, you might, you might get one play where you blow
• 26:07
  something up. But if you keep doing that
• 26:09
  consistently, you're going to, you know, make a stupid penalty
• 26:12
  or be out of position because, you know, you trust your
• 26:16
  instincts too much. Instead of what the what the
• 26:18
  offense was telling me where the play is going.
• 26:20
  You know, there are a lot of things there, where, you know,
• 26:22
  little things that one or two players are doing a few plays
• 26:26
  here there, and all of a sudden, You know it's not quite going
• 26:29
  the way you want to and you couple that with with how much
• 26:33
  the defense was on the field in the second half and that's
• 26:36
  that's kind of why you saw, you know, a tight game, balloon kind
• 26:39
  of late as we're going down the stretch there.
• 26:43
  Yeah, absolutely. And you know, we were struggling
• 26:47
  on the interior defensive line, anyway.
• 26:49
  So I think to your point when those guys were trying to press
• 26:52
  slightly getting out of position, you play the offensive
• 26:55
  line, I'm sure they were. When you saw an interior
• 26:57
  defensive lineman, get out of position, it was you looked your
• 27:00
  chops like well, now I can easily drive you off your spot
• 27:03
  and we're going to be at open lanes, up, or sometimes run
• 27:06
  themselves out of the play where I get it, I get an extra block.
• 27:09
  Now, I've got now down extra man is blocked because somebody ran
• 27:12
  themselves out of the play. Gonna be a hero.
• 27:14
  Yep. So again, I think we've seen
• 27:18
  quickly already with the penalties.
• 27:20
  Kind of like the pressing. We kind of, we saw the team
• 27:22
  press, two games. We've seen the team kind of not
• 27:25
  press for two games and the results are, you know, the
• 27:28
  proofs in the pudding. Let's flip over this because
• 27:31
  this is something, you know, pry seems like one of those guys he
• 27:34
  is very self-aware and we've talked about game management,
• 27:40
  you know, one of the big things he did.
• 27:42
  He said, It straight out. He did not call a good
• 27:46
  two-minute situation at the end of the first half.
• 27:50
  He said in and I got from that was him making the decisions of
• 27:55
  they were playing the out of bounds ball, not using the
• 27:58
  middle of the field. Potential using timeouts, drain
• 28:00
  the clock a little bit more. I see him saying about that.
• 28:03
  Also, CM saying how he actually called defensively, so you know
• 28:09
  somebody who's already kind of, it's the old, you know, if you
• 28:14
  know yourself, you can conquer the world.
• 28:15
  It seems like he knows himself. He's already known where his
• 28:18
  errors are. Let's see.
• 28:20
  That's fixed, especially in those two minute drills and
• 28:23
  crucial where he's got to make decisions.
• 28:25
  Not only calling the plays, but, you know, how we attack at the
• 28:29
  end of the half here. Yeah.
• 28:32
  And you know, I didn't mind being aggressive with the pass
• 28:38
  on some of those down, but as we said, as we were getting further
• 28:42
  into that drive and as we got to third down, let's get ones that
• 28:46
  are definitely completions. So even if we don't get the
• 28:49
  first down and convert it, you know the clock runs, we get more
• 28:53
  time off of it before we punt down and give Less West Virginia
• 28:57
  less time to have another drive and get some more points before
• 29:00
  half. In the same goes in the other
• 29:03
  direction because obviously there was a couple big plays
• 29:06
  there that kind of got them in the position where they could
• 29:08
  score. So, you know, I like owning it,
• 29:12
  I like saying, hey, we can still get better, you know, the staff
• 29:15
  can still get better, it's still a work-in-progress everybody
• 29:18
  still working to try to get this thing into a well-oiled machine
• 29:23
  and it's not there yet. We saw that against West
• 29:25
  Virginia. I think we have seen that in the
• 29:27
  first four games altogether where where BC is probably the
• 29:30
  best. A three-phase.
• 29:33
  Yeah, yeah, plus coaching effort that we've seen so far, the
• 29:36
  other three games. There are a lot to, to work on
• 29:40
  and I think, recognizing that and putting things in place that
• 29:45
  can help with that or a good sign of where we're heading.
• 29:47
  But we got it, we got to start seeing some of the results to,
• 29:50
  right. Absolutely, we've got to see the
• 29:52
  results there and I will say one thing and I don't know how it
• 29:58
  didn't. Get reviewed the pump by Peter
• 30:00
  Moore. Near the end of the first half,
• 30:03
  they gave it a Touchback. I think that needed to be looked
• 30:06
  at because that ball looked like it went out about the two inch
• 30:09
  line. It wasn't challenged.
• 30:11
  I don't know how that, you know, I feel like the college, you can
• 30:13
  challenge anything every place. Look at but.
• 30:16
  Well I mean that that was a change of possession so it
• 30:19
  should have been automatically reviewed by the booth.
• 30:22
  Yeah, but it was no, it's what I don't like some time out, TV
• 30:25
  Productions because you looked at when I looked at that play it
• 30:27
  was like I don't know if you felt like I did.
• 30:29
  I saw him like holy crap. He just I'm down at the inch
• 30:32
  line like and they were running the ball good.
• 30:36
  But when that but we had got them a couple times in the
• 30:38
  backfield and it's like is this a momentum changer where we get
• 30:43
  aggressive? Someone blows up the play, but
• 30:46
  they never showed anything. We never saw that.
• 30:48
  It wasn't that classic one that you see where it actually hits
• 30:51
  the fucking pile on. Like usually that oh that's
• 30:54
  black and white. You know, this this was
• 30:56
  something that from the angle and the production that we had
• 31:00
  it look very Very close. Like it went out, just short of
• 31:03
  the goal line, but actually will never know.
• 31:06
  You know, we'll never know TV producers, don't show us a
• 31:10
  couple of the other things. And I think, we talked about
• 31:12
  that game management and I think he may have kind of showed his
• 31:15
  cards a little bit when we went for it on fourth.
• 31:18
  And one he says, this is a team that has to get those 14 ones.
• 31:21
  This is a team that, you know, when it's when we're when we get
• 31:25
  down inside the 30. I think if it's 4th and 1, I
• 31:27
  think we're going to we're going to be going forward a lot this
• 31:29
  weekend. I think he I think he's already
• 31:33
  come to the realization. We are struggling to move the
• 31:36
  ball and to get point. So when you get down there, why
• 31:40
  not maximize your opportunity, right?
• 31:43
  Yeah, we're struggling with consistency in the passing game
• 31:45
  and we're struggling with just putting all the pieces together
• 31:50
  in the running game where we can consistently get yards when we
• 31:52
  need them. You know, right now we're just
• 31:56
  not moving enough bodies in the with the The offensive line for
• 32:01
  that, run game to be consistent. You know, we've seen stretches
• 32:05
  where we have some big plays, some well block plays, but we
• 32:08
  haven't seen it consistently enough where you can lean on
• 32:12
  that game. But for an offense that's
• 32:15
  operating. The way our is is if we don't
• 32:18
  have an effective running game, it's hard to work.
• 32:21
  Yeah. A third of your offense.
• 32:23
  I mean, when you're talking about rpos, when you're talking
• 32:26
  about play-action, none of that works.
• 32:28
  If you don't have a running game.
• 32:30
  That is threatening the defense 100% sort of the last thing.
• 32:36
  In this, I put it under game management because essentially
• 32:38
  it's coaching and something we've already seen coach
• 32:42
  admitted. This was not a good tackling
• 32:44
  game, I will say it was the worst of the year.
• 32:47
  It definitely ranks a hell of a lot higher than the last two
• 32:50
  years but he immediately address I mean no for real.
• 32:54
  Like yeah this was the worst tackling and we had all year and
• 32:56
  it was still not if this is a tackling game from last year
• 32:59
  would have been upper Third. But this year, it's in the
• 33:02
  bottom this year, it's in the at the very bottom so that that
• 33:06
  tells you the the progress that we made and then the progress
• 33:10
  that we still have have to make right again.
• 33:13
  But again, it's he addressing it.
• 33:14
  And immediately I mean if we probably have key on te for five
• 33:19
  to ten more minutes, I'm, you know, again, we were we were
• 33:24
  blessed to have him on and, you know, we probably get to talk to
• 33:26
  him for 45 minutes but we're not done.
• 33:29
  We're going to ask some good questions.
• 33:30
  Let him go about his day. It probably would have got into
• 33:33
  where the tackling drills, although more intense this week
• 33:37
  because from that presser Saturday night, yeah, Saturday
• 33:42
  night, Saturday night or Thursday night, excuse me.
• 33:46
  I have a feeling that they were working a little bit harder and
• 33:49
  I'm tackling drills this week to get back to the technique.
• 33:51
  We saw games 1, through 3, Yeah, and most of it I think was
• 33:55
  pressing was dive and we had kind of early on there.
• 34:00
  The one where you know Armani just didn't break down, did make
• 34:07
  the play result in the first down that led to a long drive
• 34:11
  where it could have been getting off the field with West
• 34:15
  Virginia. Backed up deep in their own
• 34:16
  territory. So, you know, it's the little
• 34:19
  things that kind of add up to the big things.
• 34:22
  And I think if we Clean up those, those little things.
• 34:26
  And again, lean on our technique like, like, he on, Tim was
• 34:29
  talking about like, Coach Brown talks about, we're going to see
• 34:32
  some improvement on that front. Abso-freakin'-lutely gonna give
• 34:36
  a couple shout outs here. We got Jerry won't shout out.
• 34:39
  Jerry watching us tonight. Shallot Levar shout-out, Low
• 34:42
  Country. Living got two of them on
• 34:45
  YouTube, on on Facebook. We appreciate you guys joining
• 34:48
  us tonight. All right, they was your things
• 34:51
  that are bad that we feel like can get fixed now.
• 34:54
  I'll say this, we did do the old with what's bad.
• 34:57
  That's going to be really tough to be fixed this year and I
• 34:59
  think it kind of showed out on Thursday night in.
• 35:04
  That is the size of our interior defensive line, not necessarily
• 35:09
  the players but the simple sighs Josh bougas, the heaviest guide
• 35:12
  about 305 then. It's Kendricks and then, you
• 35:16
  know, Pollard and Pinette as good as they are, they're going
• 35:20
  to 80 to 85 their undersized defensive interior.
• 35:24
  Offensive lineman, but Brian me and you've kind of been just
• 35:27
  kind of going through the schedule and there's only a
• 35:30
  handful more teams that are going to run the power to run,
• 35:33
  power plays or as big as West Virginia are the rest of the
• 35:36
  year. So it's something we can't fix.
• 35:38
  But it's not like we're playing a bunch of Wisconsin's for
• 35:43
  Iowa's between now and November. Yeah I think we have maybe one
• 35:49
  or two offensive lines on the schedule that can move bodies
• 35:53
  like what we saw. All West Virginia do so size
• 35:58
  becomes less of a problem. You know when we look at the
• 36:03
  things that are going to be struggle to get fixed.
• 36:05
  Obviously you can't all of a sudden put 10 15 pounds on a
• 36:09
  defensive lineman right now. I don't see the Run blocking
• 36:13
  getting significantly better within this offense.
• 36:17
  What I do see and what I think will happen is I think that
• 36:20
  we'll see scheme changes in different approaches to how we
• 36:24
  attack teams with our running game because we're going to
• 36:28
  still have to be effective somewhat in the running game in
• 36:31
  order to have success in this offense.
• 36:34
  So if if running up the middle isn't working, if that duo in
• 36:38
  the in the power isn't working. We're going to have to attack
• 36:41
  the perimeter with some more that pin and pull that we saw
• 36:45
  have some success against Boston College and some other things
• 36:49
  that this offense can do. So Yeah, I think looking at the
• 36:53
  tape that's the thing that we would have to do first is start
• 36:56
  working attacking the perimeter, with the running game, a little
• 36:59
  bit more, and hopefully that can give us a little bit of
• 37:03
  breathing room where we don't have to move as many bodies
• 37:05
  inside The Tackle Box. Because right now that's what
• 37:09
  we're struggling with the most is getting guys out of gaps.
• 37:12
  You know the holes are too small and the ones that are there.
• 37:14
  Sometimes we're one or two assignments away from, you know
• 37:18
  that play working. Let's see if we can spread
• 37:20
  things out a little bit. It test them on the edges, a
• 37:22
  little more and and get some guys blocking in space instead
• 37:26
  of inside a phone booth. Absolutely into your point.
• 37:31
  You kind of mentioned to me Friday when we talk, it's really
• 37:36
  tough to change. Philosophical philosophically a
• 37:40
  run game. And so I think specially going,
• 37:43
  especially going from a Zone, a true Zone, okay, why do you
• 37:47
  spread you out and to where now you've got to move bodies out of
• 37:49
  gaps. You know you're blocking down.
• 37:52
  You're using leverage that you're using power.
• 37:55
  It's a different skill set. Some guys have both some guys,
• 37:57
  don't Um, and some guys take longer to develop it as they
• 38:02
  practice it. So, you know it's going to be a
• 38:04
  work in progress. They might be a work in progress
• 38:06
  that never fool gets finished the season.
• 38:09
  Yep. Absolutely.
• 38:10
  Absolutely. Alright, couple other things,
• 38:14
  you know, the the quarterback talk of course is going to be on
• 38:17
  fire as soon as that game ended with some of the overthrows and
• 38:21
  Miss throws. But I think me and your kind of
• 38:25
  to the point of You know when things aren't going well, you
• 38:31
  know, regardless of the game that we're just going to live
• 38:34
  with Grant Wells in the risks, he takes and some of the stuff
• 38:37
  he does because it's it's not like that go does Jason Brown
• 38:45
  potentially give you a better chance to win.
• 38:47
  Maybe maybe he does but then we're going back to something.
• 38:50
  Everybody's been pissed off when since 2018 there's been
• 38:54
  absolutely no consistent, the quarterback position for the
• 38:56
  Hokies. Yeah.
• 38:57
  Right. So absolutely.
• 39:00
  And what do you all talk about Jason Brown?
• 39:02
  Like if you're going to Jason Brown at best you're going to a
• 39:06
  six to eight-week fix, right? Yeah, likes it.
• 39:10
  That's all you. It's all your doing, you know, I
• 39:15
  think right now the best thing to do is to to keep rolling with
• 39:19
  Wells because number one, I think in terms of arm Talent, he
• 39:21
  gives us the best chance to win. And number two, you want to at
• 39:26
  least give him his best. A shot to show whether he's the
• 39:29
  guy for the next two years, or whether you're back at the
• 39:31
  drawing board. This offseason Vega.
• 39:37
  Because at least if he's still in the house if he's potentially
• 39:40
  not the guy, and he doesn't grow between now and November.
• 39:43
  Or hopefully now in January that you can have the conversation
• 39:48
  with them and say, you know, it's got to be open like you did
• 39:52
  not do enough to set yourself apart for potentially other
• 39:55
  guys, we can potentially bring into this.
• 39:57
  Yeah, I mean, when we look at, you know, his play, you know,
• 40:02
  he's based on good plays. There are moments where you're
• 40:05
  like, all right, I can see this working but then there's moments
• 40:09
  where he, you know, locks onto a receiver, his primary right out.
• 40:14
  The gate doesn't really ever come off of it makes the throw
• 40:17
  even though there might be some check Downs there or a second or
• 40:20
  third read that might become an open.
• 40:23
  You know, there's a couple, overthrows, some excusable, some
• 40:26
  not, you know, we've seen things that are really good and we've
• 40:31
  seen things that he's got to Gone in.
• 40:35
  Like I said, I think we've seen enough where You know, he's
• 40:39
  going to need to be the guy the rest of the way out but if we
• 40:43
  don't start seeing some progress here, I think that's when you're
• 40:46
  saying all right, well we know he's the solution for this year
• 40:50
  but he's not the next not the solution for next 2 years.
• 40:54
  Let's see what else we could bring in here and see if we can
• 40:56
  Elevate that position. So absolutely still a work in
• 40:59
  progress right now still work in progress.
• 41:01
  Great point. Now the other thing and this has
• 41:04
  been discussed long, this has been discussing spring, its
• 41:08
  Talent up to keep Fishing groups, there's nothing we can
• 41:10
  change about that this year, all that we can do is hope that the
• 41:14
  coaching staff makes the decisions of who put you in the
• 41:18
  best position for this year. But also who has the opportunity
• 41:22
  to get playing time this year that you can get, get the film,
• 41:27
  get them on tape to start keychain and getting ready for
• 41:31
  the next two to three seasons. Yeah, I mean that's that's part
• 41:37
  of the thing that, you know, we're going to struggle.
• 41:39
  Yes. Is that think this week, think
• 41:41
  this week at the line that the Mike linebacker that was that
• 41:44
  depth chart that that kind of shocked me and you, but that's
• 41:47
  somebody who's going to potentially, you know, will will
• 41:50
  Johnson, right? Dip will Johnson this Dowdy
• 41:53
  number to Mike at least for UNC at least for you and see but
• 41:56
  it's in it's like whoa, wasting word Keyshawn.
• 41:59
  Where's Dean Ferguson? It's like, well, is this a week
• 42:02
  where they get will Johnson some And he's already been,
• 42:05
  redshirted he's doing some things on special teams.
• 42:08
  Is he get the run this week to say?
• 42:10
  He's a redshirt freshman, let's get tape where we can, you know,
• 42:14
  analyze diagnose what he does. Well, and what can he do?
• 42:17
  Well to actually next year or the year after?
• 42:20
  Well, I think also in terms of matchups, this is a team and
• 42:22
  we're going to talk about it after the break here.
• 42:25
  You know what they like to do? Will Johnson, skillset probably
• 42:30
  fits a lot more than a Keyshawn artists this week.
• 42:36
  So, you know, if you're going to have a number two, we know and
• 42:38
  we've seen the twos get, you know, at least a handful of
• 42:42
  series every week. Yep.
• 42:44
  We have so far so at least every week.
• 42:47
  So if we're looking at matchups that's definitely a matchup
• 42:52
  down. Like I said, whether that
• 42:53
  carries over week to week after this, that's that's going to be
• 42:55
  the question. But I like this move in terms of
• 42:59
  this week, we see Kelly Lawson, now starting at will him in
• 43:04
  Keller. Or it will.
• 43:06
  I mean, as an athletic group, right there with those two kids.
• 43:10
  Yeah. And and you know that
• 43:12
  linebacking room is shaping up and it's still, you know,
• 43:17
  there's still some some fiddling going on with it.
• 43:20
  But we've seen a big step forward with that group this
• 43:23
  year and I think as we kind of get more tape and Seymour would
• 43:28
  have got guys are doing against live competition against better
• 43:30
  competition. It's only going to get better
• 43:32
  because we'll have a lot more. Our understanding of what what
• 43:36
  these guys do well now and it's also know a guy like counted
• 43:40
  Jenkins has the eligibility to come back next year where he is
• 43:43
  really evolved into that same position and you know with him
• 43:47
  and Walker you've got a good Central, you've got a good one
• 43:50
  to out there to be very, very comfortable with.
• 43:54
  All right let's go to what steady let's just say it is as
• 44:00
  much as the we're going to malign the offensive line.
• 44:03
  The way the Run blocking is happened Has Pros been damn
• 44:06
  good. I mean if the sacks are happen
• 44:10
  to the pressure happen, it's cover pressure.
• 44:12
  It's not You know, Brian you said you've been impressed with
• 44:16
  how this groups look because they were a solid group, a
• 44:19
  couple guys who played last year with the exception of one
• 44:21
  individual. Yeah, you know, there's one that
• 44:25
  the one guy that sells there's one guy that still struggling
• 44:28
  pretty bad and it makes no sense.
• 44:30
  It makes no sense Parker. But as I mean, I think overall
• 44:35
  I'm satisfied I wouldn't say I'm impressed but I'm definitely
• 44:38
  satisfied with the past, bro. Like I said, I think we could
• 44:42
  see some improvement from Parker.
• 44:46
  He's been the weakest link both in the Run game in the pass game
• 44:50
  combined, in my opinion. If if some of that can continue
• 44:57
  to go and he can put out more tape, like he put out last year
• 45:01
  because he was a solid Solomon pass / last year.
• 45:04
  I know, I know, it's limited games.
• 45:06
  He only started a couple games saw time and a lot of games
• 45:10
  though and he had enough snaps under his belt, where Past Pro
• 45:14
  should not be the big problem that it is for him.
• 45:17
  Right now. It just doesn't make me and you
• 45:20
  talked about it the other day. It's like you didn't think about
• 45:24
  that. He would be an issue like he had
• 45:26
  solid game film. He had good progression, you
• 45:30
  know, not to not to downplay it. Was he going to be first round
• 45:34
  pick? Probably not, but the way he was
• 45:37
  progressing, you felt like he was going to be a very good for
• 45:39
  former for three more years here.
• 45:42
  And it's just like, come unraveled, So that's in fact if
• 45:47
  you if we just get Parker back to what he did last year, it's
• 45:50
  significantly makes the offensive line better than what
• 45:53
  it is. Both path Pro and Run game.
• 45:57
  Yeah and it's weird because you know I don't know if it's
• 46:00
  carrying over. He's obviously thinking too
• 46:02
  much. Just just looking at he's
• 46:05
  thinking too much and he's not not processing and leaning on
• 46:11
  his technique quick enough in the snap.
• 46:14
  And that's carrying over into is his actual technique in terms of
• 46:19
  the actual block itself. Yeah, he's had bad technique.
• 46:23
  He's gotten beaten inside. Oh my God, if I'm rushing the
• 46:29
  passer, I'm crossing Parker Clements face, every damn time.
• 46:35
  Every damn time, I'm crossing his face screw Creek should
• 46:39
  screw screw Edge rush I am Crossing his face and making him
• 46:42
  have to power step and keep me from getting to the quarterback
• 46:46
  inside. So all right, all right, well,
• 46:51
  let's let's let's hit on a couple more.
• 46:53
  Good things we already talked about the linebackers, The Young
• 46:56
  and the old plane. Good secondary play Man.
• 47:00
  I mean It's you can't you know, the corners are played solid,
• 47:06
  the safeties have played really good.
• 47:08
  There's secondary Place, good at steady and you know, seeing Bree
• 47:13
  on Murray played well last week. So it seems like those groups
• 47:17
  are. They've got their footing.
• 47:19
  Yeah. I mean they've been playing well
• 47:21
  overall being there's you know, plays here there you can nitpick
• 47:24
  for sure. Yeah, you know, I've already
• 47:26
  talked about, you know, Chapman, missing the tackle on the edge
• 47:29
  there, you know, a couple technique.
• 47:32
  Here, they're some of the resulted in penalties, on that
• 47:35
  resulted in catches. But overall, the unit is
• 47:38
  playing. Well, they've held in check some
• 47:42
  of the better receivers that will see, not just, you know, in
• 47:47
  the early part of the schedule, but for the whole year.
• 47:50
  So you know, if they can keep that play up, as we kind of get
• 47:55
  deeper into conference play, that's going to be huge but
• 47:59
  they're doing, they're doing a good job so far.
• 48:01
  Abso-freakin'-lutely. You and Artie biddies are or
• 48:04
  what they are. It's the running back room and I
• 48:06
  know a lot of that's going to hinge on and with the offensive
• 48:09
  line plays like but it's seeing what we want to see and it
• 48:13
  doesn't look like it's an outside shot this week but
• 48:16
  seeing Malachi Thomas and Keyshawn, King both be able to
• 48:20
  play significant roles and I think we have to put TVD on that
• 48:24
  room until they're both on the field because you've been
• 48:28
  talking about those perimeter runs and, you know, The one
• 48:32
  thing really good about Malachi and you've praised it over and
• 48:35
  over is to be a young to a be a back of his age.
• 48:39
  He is only his second year in college in the way he ran.
• 48:42
  Last year, his vision is already like a senior.
• 48:46
  Yeah he's got he's got really good Vision.
• 48:48
  It's not like Khalil Herbert level Vision but very few are no
• 48:53
  but it's really good especially for the experience and he's had
• 48:56
  the offense so far, you know, a little bit more vision is going
• 49:00
  to help this offense. I mean, it's a difference
• 49:02
  between a 1 or 2 yard gain for 5-yard, gain on.
• 49:06
  A lot of these plays that were looking at, just just picking
• 49:09
  the right lane picking the right, Ali setting the block up
• 49:12
  better, you know? They're they're little things
• 49:15
  that Kent can help this offense to have a little bit more
• 49:19
  consistency. You know, I we're not going to
• 49:22
  see significant or drastic change happened.
• 49:25
  Just because Malachi suddenly inserted into the offense, but
• 49:30
  we might see again, the small things.
• 49:33
  We're we're now no longer playing from behind the chains
• 49:36
  on second and third down, you know, if we can do that a little
• 49:40
  bit better, that makes things easier for Grant Wells.
• 49:43
  Now, they've got honor the running the past on this third.
• 49:46
  Insurance versus there's third and Long's you know play action
• 49:49
  works a lot better on second down.
• 49:51
  There's so many different things that kind of open up.
• 49:54
  If you can have an effective first down, run that gets you
• 49:57
  three to four yards and Absalom. And when we look at the wide
• 50:00
  receiver room we're seeing you know, guys take steps, right?
• 50:04
  We're that's the other one that we're kind of, it's a work in
• 50:07
  progress, but we've seen some young guys, make some plays.
• 50:11
  We've seen some young guys, make some mistakes here there but
• 50:14
  we're at least seeing Some growth weeks a week, that's it.
• 50:19
  We saw the Christian Moss. You make some good plays against
• 50:22
  West Virginia, after having a big day against Wofford Step Up
• 50:25
  in competition a little bit, we still see his present in the
• 50:28
  offense, so that's a positive. Sign positive, take away, you
• 50:32
  know, we saw blue that had had some opportunities against West
• 50:35
  Virginia, a couple that he wasn't able to capitalize on.
• 50:38
  But there were some opportunities there, where he
• 50:40
  was getting open, where he was getting in a spot where he can
• 50:43
  make a play in the offense. So, there's some positive
• 50:47
  momentum in that group, but there's still a lot of TBD and
• 50:52
  pivoting back to the running back room real quick.
• 50:55
  When we talk about Malachi coming back now, you've got two
• 50:59
  guys that you can count on. And I think that's when you
• 51:02
  start seeing Bryce Duke, being used in a few more packages.
• 51:10
  So that's my hope. Is that because of Bryce Duke
• 51:13
  skill set? Yeah, I think what he can do on
• 51:17
  the perimeter and will help us because that's where we need to
• 51:20
  start getting a little bit. Little bit better at attacking
• 51:26
  to take a little bit of pressure off the interior offensive line.
• 51:30
  So if Bryce do can get some more run because of guys like Thomas
• 51:33
  and King that you can lean on a little bit for the rest of the
• 51:36
  workload. That's only going to help us
• 51:38
  long-term. Abso-freakin'-lutely Brian.
• 51:43
  So obviously a lot to unpack. Obviously a lot of things that
• 51:47
  you know we we know we can't do anything about this year, it's
• 51:51
  going to take time, it's going to take development.
• 51:54
  It's a lot of things. We know if we clean up, we can
• 51:57
  become more competitive and every game we play from now
• 52:00
  until November. So, hopefully we start seeing
• 52:02
  these things. And again, talking with you on
• 52:03
  to our last night, sounds like the coach has already put things
• 52:05
  in place, which is what you want to hear.
• 52:08
  It's, we're not trying to The same things, it's four games in
• 52:11
  certain things aren't working. Let's change it up.
• 52:14
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• 52:17
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  The Enemy UNC and Brian it's an easy place to start.
• 52:53
  We started with there. Offense, man.
• 52:54
  And let's talk about the man under Center under the shotgun
• 52:57
  snaps. Drake May the quarterback, a six
• 53:00
  foot four 220-pound, redshirt freshman.
• 53:04
  So he is pretty much a baby out there.
• 53:06
  Out of Myers, Park High School and Hunter bills North Carolina
• 53:09
  down near Charlotte 2021. He was a Five Star Quarterback,
• 53:14
  he was a top 25 player. He was a cop for quarterback.
• 53:18
  He was the top player in the state of North Carolina and I
• 53:22
  tell you what so far this Season his statistics.
• 53:25
  He's living up to it man. Already thrown for over 1,200
• 53:29
  yards. 16 touchdowns one pick has a little wiggle in his game
• 53:34
  closely. You know, averaging just over
• 53:36
  four and a half carry so when you turn that tape on and you
• 53:39
  had some really fun games to watch this week, do it with this
• 53:43
  offense. What are you seeing out of
• 53:46
  Drake? Me and what potentially could we
• 53:48
  do? Yeah.
• 53:50
  So what I'm seeing, I mean, he's really quick at reading with the
• 53:53
  defense is giving him and taking what's there.
• 53:56
  That's probably his biggest attribute in terms of being a
• 53:58
  young player. He's really good at identifying.
• 54:02
  What a defense is doing and taking what the offense kind of
• 54:05
  has that play there. He's a good athlete.
• 54:09
  Probably a little bit better athlete than we saw from Sam how
• 54:12
  last year at UNC, but the difference is, he's very
• 54:16
  decisive when he takes off and runs.
• 54:18
  So when he goes, he goes, he's very decisive with it.
• 54:24
  There's no, there's no questioning whether he's going
• 54:27
  to take off, he reads it. If it's not, there, he's up.
• 54:31
  He's making a play. He's trying to get the get the
• 54:33
  first down with his legs. And he delivers them a curveball
• 54:36
  at all levels of the The defense.
• 54:37
  So you can throw a deep ball. He throws even intermediate.
• 54:39
  He throws short. Probably some of the short
• 54:42
  accuracy is probably the biggest thing he could work on, but he
• 54:47
  can make all the throws at all. The levels of the defense and
• 54:51
  you know, footwork pocket mechanics are probably the
• 54:53
  things that he could also work on the most kind of get sloppy,
• 54:56
  especially when he's feeling the rush.
• 54:59
  And he does again much like a couple other quarterbacks we
• 55:02
  talked about this year, he does take unnecessary hits when he
• 55:05
  breaks the pocket and tries to make a play.
• 55:06
  So That might be an opportunity where we get him to the ground
• 55:11
  and get him to, where he's out of his game a little bit.
• 55:14
  Well, I hear those last two things and I feel like that is
• 55:17
  there's your key, right? There's your big key for
• 55:20
  throwing him off, is getting to him, getting him into those bad
• 55:24
  habits and taking the unnecessary hits.
• 55:27
  Because how many times do you see a guy who has some ability?
• 55:30
  They make that one bad play and get popped hard have to sit out
• 55:34
  a couple plays and then the next thing, you know, The next
• 55:38
  read-option, they're handing it off and it doesn't even matter
• 55:40
  if that ends crashed right now. I'm not taking another hit
• 55:44
  tonight. Like that didn't feel good.
• 55:46
  Yeah yeah and they operate within the within the RPO.
• 55:50
  So he is kind of put out there a lot where he'll take.
• 55:54
  It's in the pocket but he also again takes off and runs and he
• 55:58
  gives us. He'll give us some opportunities
• 56:00
  where we can give him a pop and make him a little bit hesitant.
• 56:05
  And that's going to be the big thing is Bring him when we have
• 56:08
  the chance and getting him off his spot when he's in the
• 56:10
  pocket. Awesome.
• 56:12
  All right. So there's a little bit on Drake
• 56:13
  met the Carolina quarterback. Let's flip now to obviously,
• 56:17
  even though the guys only played two games, Josh towns is second
• 56:22
  and Carolina interceptions which is crazy because he only played
• 56:26
  the first in the gamers and Notre Dame.
• 56:28
  The 510 175 lb wide out of Suwanee, Georgia and North
• 56:32
  Gwinnett, High School for Star, when he came out in 2020 top, A
• 56:37
  nationally, top 25 wide receiver and top 15 in state of Georgia
• 56:41
  which says a lot about a player and again, only two games so far
• 56:46
  this year. But again, like I said, already
• 56:48
  second on the team in receptions already leading the team and
• 56:51
  touchdowns, what do we need to worry about with Down's?
• 56:55
  Because I know he's a little bit smaller of a guy.
• 56:59
  I'm pretty much everything, but deep down the sideline, he works
• 57:03
  out of the slot. A lot that's primarily where
• 57:06
  he's going to be running routes, and he's great at running routes
• 57:09
  great at changing direction. Great with the ball in his
• 57:12
  hands. After the catch, he's going to
• 57:14
  be the primary offensive Target between the 20s, and he's going
• 57:18
  to be the also, the primary Red Zone Target.
• 57:22
  And he's not really used as much as a deep threat, but they will
• 57:25
  run him with some seem in some fade.
• 57:27
  But not a ton of stuff deep down the sideline, but when you get
• 57:32
  in the Red Zone, look for the fade.
• 57:34
  Look for the corner, you know, look for those plays where he
• 57:37
  can kind of use his athleticism to get open, and High Point the
• 57:41
  ball, and bring it down for a big play.
• 57:44
  Absolutely. So again, he was out a couple
• 57:47
  games and we're not going to talk about anymore wide
• 57:50
  receivers tonight because there's I'm going to talk about
• 57:52
  a tight end next. But also keep your ears open for
• 57:56
  Kobe, Pacer Kobe face or leading the team in receptions and
• 58:02
  another one. Jay Jay Jones, Jay Jones, bigger
• 58:05
  guy, averaging, almost 20 yards of pop.
• 58:08
  So, depending on what kind of weather we're playing and you
• 58:10
  may or may not hear from those guys.
• 58:12
  But once more Antoine green, is there, is there a deep threat as
• 58:15
  well? So I mean they've got weapons
• 58:17
  all over the field but you know, when you look at the one that
• 58:20
  can hurt you everywhere, it's Josh downs.
• 58:24
  And Josh Downs, makes everybody else's job a lot easier because
• 58:27
  of Of everything that he can do. Yep.
• 58:30
  Let's flip and let's talk about obviously Downs played, ain't
• 58:34
  Florida A&M played last week against Notre Dame but he missed
• 58:36
  that App State gaming, you Miss Georgia, State, and in those
• 58:40
  games. Brian you looking at the tape
• 58:42
  you kind of said they were going tight in heavy and one of the
• 58:46
  Titans, they targeted a ton was Morales.
• 58:52
  Come on, Ari Morales A6, 2245 tight end at a buck Lake floor.
• 58:57
  Lincoln High School, 2019, three-star.
• 59:01
  I mean already, you know in those games with, you know, with
• 59:06
  Down's out you know, he had ten reception, he's already had ten
• 59:10
  receptions for over 140 yards this year and it really looked
• 59:14
  like give credit to their offense, went with Down's going
• 59:17
  out. They sort of like look between
• 59:20
  the numbers and we're very successful doing it with their
• 59:23
  tight ends. Yeah, they definitely kind of
• 59:26
  filled in the Gap with what downsells do.
• 59:27
  Ring with two guys Marisa. Morales Morales.
• 59:31
  Probably the the better overall Target in terms of being able to
• 59:35
  do a little bit more within the offense.
• 59:40
  They leaned on him heavily when Josh Downs was out.
• 59:43
  Good hands, but not really physically dominant.
• 59:46
  And this is a guy that's more of a kind of a joke or tight in,
• 59:49
  not necessarily A blocking asset.
• 59:52
  He will block in space pretty well.
• 59:54
  Good stock blocker but not somebody that you're going to
• 59:57
  line up. Line a ton and just try to try
• 1:00:00
  to move bodies in the running game.
• 1:00:01
  So definitely a very past focused asset for that that
• 1:00:06
  offense. Yeah.
• 1:00:08
  And and the game last week against Notre Dame with Down's
• 1:00:12
  being back, definitely didn't see as much of them.
• 1:00:14
  So obviously they could be changing up things this week
• 1:00:19
  because obviously like, you know, Downs had a really good
• 1:00:22
  game against Notre Dame. So could they go back to Morales
• 1:00:25
  versus us? And again, it's funny.
• 1:00:27
  You know, we got key onto this week in a lot of talk is about
• 1:00:30
  that position but if he can play like he did against BC and hold
• 1:00:35
  down another good tight end, that helps the Hokies.
• 1:00:38
  All right, buddy, now to the fun part, this isn't a very good
• 1:00:44
  offensive line is it? No, you know, I don't know if
• 1:00:50
  they're as bad as we are right now in terms of all the pieces,
• 1:00:55
  but they're struggling pretty bad.
• 1:00:58
  If we're talking about three worst, three or four were
• 1:01:01
  solvent sloppy, ACC has a lot of bad offensive line play right
• 1:01:04
  now. Between UVA between us between
• 1:01:07
  Boston College, and between a blue between this, this UNC
• 1:01:11
  team, so probably for the worst offensive lines in the, in the
• 1:01:16
  ACC right now. So unc's right there with them,
• 1:01:20
  they're not great at staying engaged.
• 1:01:22
  They turn their shoulder, their shoulders, get easily turn in
• 1:01:25
  the running game creating those Those penetration Lanes to
• 1:01:28
  really mess up that path. That rushing attack, they
• 1:01:32
  struggle a lot. Just like we were with the
• 1:01:35
  stunts in the blitz pickup and past Pro.
• 1:01:39
  You're somewhat. Some of their deficiencies are
• 1:01:41
  mitigated by scheme and by what maze able to do with his talent
• 1:01:45
  is decision-making, ability to throw the ball and ability to
• 1:01:48
  make quick decisions and get the ball out.
• 1:01:51
  But they're not very good in the Run game or the passing game.
• 1:01:54
  Very very mediocre. Definitely something we could
• 1:01:57
  take advantage of So, why are they then how?
• 1:02:02
  How, why are they so successful? Because obviously, if they're
• 1:02:05
  not that talented, what's, you know, how can you really be
• 1:02:08
  covered that up by that much? I'm asking?
• 1:02:13
  Yeah, yeah, I mean, so, you know, we talked about this a lot
• 1:02:16
  when we think about, you know, a couple years back, how bad those
• 1:02:20
  Miami lines were but they were still able to be effective in
• 1:02:24
  the passing game and be effective enough in the running
• 1:02:27
  game. It's kind of the same situation.
• 1:02:29
  In here. When it's right, they can they
• 1:02:32
  can break some big plays in the running game when a Mario
• 1:02:36
  Hampton who were about to talk about here in a second, gets to
• 1:02:38
  the second level. He can make big plays had
• 1:02:41
  touched had a run of 53 yards I think against their their FCS
• 1:02:46
  opponent and then a couple other big runs as well so he can break
• 1:02:53
  some big ones and that plus what may is able to do, when how
• 1:02:58
  quickly They are able to get the ball out, but also what this
• 1:03:04
  offense does, well, is kind of put that those Force players in
• 1:03:08
  a bind, in terms of, whether they're, it's a run or a pass,
• 1:03:11
  or whether it's a give or a keep.
• 1:03:14
  When you do that, that kind of slows things down a little bit
• 1:03:16
  and that helps your offensive line.
• 1:03:19
  Got it, got it. Any one particular player, maybe
• 1:03:22
  stand out for you. No one really.
• 1:03:26
  I mean, it's very, it's very buidling across the board.
• 1:03:30
  I mean, they're breaking in kind of some new players on that
• 1:03:34
  line. So it's still very much a work
• 1:03:36
  in progress. All right.
• 1:03:37
  Good to know. Let's talk about the guy, they
• 1:03:40
  have blocked for, who's had a solid season thus far, and
• 1:03:43
  that's a Mario, Hampton. The running back six-foot-two.
• 1:03:46
  20 out of Clayton, North Carolina, Cleveland High School
• 1:03:49
  for star in the 2022 class. He is a true freshman playing.
• 1:03:53
  He was the 11th grader running. In the country and a top-five
• 1:03:56
  player in the state and you know so far it's sort of been really
• 1:04:01
  good game back to Earth really good game back to Earth.
• 1:04:05
  So this week it's saying this should be another really good
• 1:04:07
  game. I hope that the pattern does not
• 1:04:09
  continue because he was teased a 256 averaging over 50 carry for
• 1:04:14
  the season. But coming off the Notre Dame
• 1:04:16
  game where he only got 28 yards and 32 from scrimmage with one
• 1:04:21
  little catch. But when you see in the good
• 1:04:24
  parts of him, What's it? What's the Artie?
• 1:04:26
  What's he showing? I mean, the big thing you show
• 1:04:29
  and he's got great vision between the tackles and he
• 1:04:31
  finishes his runs very well. So he's a guy that's always
• 1:04:35
  falling forward. Always fighting for extra,
• 1:04:36
  yardage and maximizes, kind of what this offensive line gives
• 1:04:41
  him. But he did disappear against
• 1:04:44
  appstate, did disappear against Notre, Dame, a lot of that was
• 1:04:46
  based on game Flow there. You know AB State you're getting
• 1:04:51
  in a shootout Notre Dame damn playing from behind.
• 1:04:55
  For a significant portion of the game and especially in the
• 1:04:58
  second half of the new Dame game, where they completely
• 1:05:01
  control time of possession. So there wasn't a ton of
• 1:05:05
  opportunities, even when they were playing from behind to kind
• 1:05:08
  of get those those carries and there's touches.
• 1:05:11
  But he does have big play ability like I talked about, but
• 1:05:15
  really is struggled getting to the sex the second level against
• 1:05:19
  that better. I competition.
• 1:05:20
  So if we can do kind of what Notre Dame is done and Tap,
• 1:05:25
  state did for for significant. Portions of that game?
• 1:05:28
  Yeah, I think will be our writing and maintaining keeping
• 1:05:32
  the Russian game under control and making them a
• 1:05:35
  one-dimensional offense. Yeah, definitely.
• 1:05:39
  That has to be the key is to make them a one-dimensional
• 1:05:41
  offense. Regardless, because the pass
• 1:05:44
  game is far as the pass game goes, they don't really use the
• 1:05:47
  running backs a lot. I mean, the running bags.
• 1:05:50
  I mean, I'm just looking here running backs.
• 1:05:52
  Only have 15. Seems all year, and it's just a
• 1:05:58
  little over a hundred yards, so not a big key factor, there's no
• 1:06:03
  5A game combined. Yeah.
• 1:06:05
  Yeah, not much. I mean, it's 45 a game for like,
• 1:06:07
  twenty five, twenty twenty-five, Thirty yard average.
• 1:06:10
  So they're not using that as a lot of check downs.
• 1:06:13
  But again, maybe with a Young quarterback, getting to that
• 1:06:16
  read is the real issue. So you know I know we've seen
• 1:06:21
  this team for a couple years now Brian but let's just go high
• 1:06:24
  level. Well, what type of offense are
• 1:06:27
  we looking at? And what are they doing?
• 1:06:29
  That we need to be looking for on Saturday afternoon 3:30.
• 1:06:35
  Yeah, this is a spread. Our po based offense and again I
• 1:06:41
  said it a little bit but you know the big key is all about
• 1:06:43
  putting the the force players of the defense in a bind where they
• 1:06:46
  can't, you know, play the run or the past, they've got to kind of
• 1:06:49
  think and read and and kind of sit back and wait.
• 1:06:55
  That's what they're trying to do, they're trying to make
• 1:06:57
  things difficult, put guys on Islands, they're not a great
• 1:07:01
  traditional rushing team, but maze numbers kind of make up for
• 1:07:06
  that combined with what the running backs have been able to
• 1:07:09
  do in some big carries and those weaker competition games but
• 1:07:14
  they are still you know they're still hovering just below that
• 1:07:16
  200-yard a game Mark so they're getting decent yardage overall,
• 1:07:21
  but some of those running game aspects are disappearing.
• 1:07:25
  For long stretches against better competition.
• 1:07:28
  They're much more efficient through the air than they are on
• 1:07:30
  the ground but they can still get bogged down when they
• 1:07:33
  already want to routinely hit their shots, downfield, or take
• 1:07:36
  advantage of good runs and good. Good plays on early downs.
• 1:07:42
  And, you know, they definitely are a dynamic offense, but they
• 1:07:45
  become very pedestrian when you get them into those third and
• 1:07:48
  long situations, that's good to know.
• 1:07:52
  We're going to visit something about those third.
• 1:07:55
  Situations. But you're absolutely right as
• 1:07:57
  far as the Russian goes Bryan against Notre Dame.
• 1:08:00
  Last week, I mean, you know, basically 60 yards on about 25
• 1:08:05
  carry. So very pedestrian and there's
• 1:08:09
  one of your big keys, right? You know, stop them make you've
• 1:08:13
  said it make them one-dimensional offense.
• 1:08:15
  We make them beat you passing, especially in a Range so game,
• 1:08:18
  it could be good things for the Hokies.
• 1:08:22
  Now let's go talk about the defense because the defense not
• 1:08:25
  the best. But let's talk about a couple
• 1:08:27
  key players, are that? We're seeing making some impact
• 1:08:30
  and let's start with Cedric gray, the linebacker
• 1:08:35
  six-foot-two 230 out of Charlotte, North Carolina,
• 1:08:38
  Audrey kill, High School, class of 2020.
• 1:08:42
  Again I keep saying it for Star. Top 10 player, North Carolina's
• 1:08:48
  top teen athlete in the country. How this team is only winning.
• 1:08:51
  Six games a year. Only tells you that their
• 1:08:53
  coaching staff is Ass. That's all I'm gonna say.
• 1:08:56
  Is many talented players if we've been saying here and
• 1:08:59
  there's even more that we're not mentioning.
• 1:09:01
  So the worst thing is that at least the offense is getting
• 1:09:04
  production, like but the defense has four and five stars all
• 1:09:09
  every weld and are but ass. But speaking of Cedric, great
• 1:09:17
  said, your gray is the Undisputed leader on this
• 1:09:19
  defense, okay? He's weak side linebacker, he's
• 1:09:22
  the best player. Best box player and run.
• 1:09:25
  First offender that they have, he is also their primary Blitzer
• 1:09:29
  when they send pressure. They'll use another guy that
• 1:09:32
  we're about to talk about as well, but he's the guy that they
• 1:09:34
  like to send the most on those pressures and he's generally
• 1:09:37
  matched up with the running back in man coverage.
• 1:09:40
  When they go into into the drop back, probably better in man
• 1:09:45
  than he is in zone, but he doesn't really have a bunch of
• 1:09:51
  liabilities, but he's more of a kind of a leader.
• 1:09:55
  Okay. He's not Elite in any key areas
• 1:10:00
  but he doesn't really have any deficiencies either his
• 1:10:02
  leadership and kind of what he brings to that front is probably
• 1:10:06
  his biggest attribute. Let me ask this because you say
• 1:10:09
  he is the guy carrying running backs out of the backfield.
• 1:10:12
  Does he have the kind of athleticism that can keep up
• 1:10:15
  with guys? Like he's Sean King, if we
• 1:10:17
  decide to go out and run some Flats, maybe run some Wheels,
• 1:10:21
  run some angle routes, where Keshawn is it close to you
• 1:10:24
  Keshawn, is that Poletik. I mean he did a decent job of
• 1:10:28
  matching Chris Tyree for a lot of the Notre Dame game you know
• 1:10:33
  he did get a few gains but he wasn't necessarily getting beat
• 1:10:37
  where Tyrese running up. The up the sideline, the only
• 1:10:41
  time that a running back called, a big ball in that game is when
• 1:10:45
  they put two out there and and threw away from Cedric Grace.
• 1:10:51
  Oh, okay, that's that's the only big play there.
• 1:10:55
  Add with a running back in the passing game was when they went
• 1:10:57
  away from that. So got you got you?
• 1:11:00
  Well in Graham selfie like you said, he's the leader and he's
• 1:11:03
  leading this team in tackles 47. Total tackles three and a half
• 1:11:06
  four loss. He has a pick, he's Pat, he
• 1:11:08
  know, he played a little last year.
• 1:11:10
  He's deflected passes. So like you said, it sounds like
• 1:11:13
  he has a willy well-rounded game.
• 1:11:16
  Now, let's talk about the other linebacker.
• 1:11:18
  That caught your eye on the tape because I was looking at
• 1:11:21
  somebody else you texted me and said, let's flip Ooh, this guy
• 1:11:26
  power Echols all named Team, first of all, power equals Big
• 1:11:30
  Time, 6-foot 225. Also from Charlotte, North
• 1:11:34
  Carolina from chambers High School, 2021 class for Star, top
• 1:11:39
  200 player, top 20 linebacker, number 13 in the state of North
• 1:11:43
  Carolina in power so far this year.
• 1:11:46
  Also, well, up there getting 37 total, tackles three tackles for
• 1:11:50
  loss, couple sacks, what's power showing on tape.
• 1:11:56
  He's good at making plays against the run when he plays
• 1:11:58
  with anticipation trusses reads and in kind of gets up in there
• 1:12:03
  but he's below averaging coverage, especially in man.
• 1:12:07
  So this is something where we might be able to create some
• 1:12:10
  mismatches with guys in our game.
• 1:12:15
  He does a good job when blitzing, he's probably the guy
• 1:12:18
  that they send them Blitz is the second most in this defense
• 1:12:23
  meddling when it comes to block. A shedding and tackling.
• 1:12:26
  He'll miss some tackles here and there and can get confused and
• 1:12:30
  influence by motion and window dressing when he has coverage
• 1:12:33
  duties that big pass to the running back that I'm talking
• 1:12:37
  about. There was some window-dressing
• 1:12:39
  some motion, he got caught up in the wash and next thing you know
• 1:12:43
  you let a guy get behind him. Big touchdown that kind of
• 1:12:46
  extended that lead and kind of put it Out Of Reach for you and
• 1:12:50
  see where they were playing big-time catch up there in the
• 1:12:53
  fourth quarter. So, It has some ability.
• 1:12:57
  That makes a lot of mistakes. That's kind of the big takeaway
• 1:13:00
  for him. Got it, got it.
• 1:13:03
  All right, let's flip. And let's take a look at a
• 1:13:05
  member of the secondary that if you have followed Okie football,
• 1:13:08
  will last few years, you were all too familiar with and that's
• 1:13:11
  camera on Kelly. The free safety, 61 210 out of
• 1:13:16
  Oscar Smith, High School. If you don't remember, he was
• 1:13:19
  originally committed to the Hokies long long time ago in
• 1:13:23
  2018. And then he flipped to Auburn
• 1:13:28
  who signed with and the class of 2019 where he was a four-star,
• 1:13:32
  top-10 player in Virginia, top 24/7 player, but he did make it
• 1:13:37
  through Auburn spring. He then flip to you and see
• 1:13:41
  after signing with them and he is now they're at Carolina where
• 1:13:46
  he actually played as a freshman in 2019, you know, this year
• 1:13:53
  starting at the strong safety. Position 20 tackles no pics.
• 1:13:57
  No sex. No tackles for loss.
• 1:14:02
  Is he doing adequate or or, or could they potentially bench
• 1:14:07
  him? So he's also their punt
• 1:14:11
  returner. So, okay.
• 1:14:13
  We'll put that caveat in there. He is.
• 1:14:16
  Not a very good tackler at all. He is food in the open field.
• 1:14:23
  That's something that we could. He is food.
• 1:14:26
  We can absolutely take advantage of his ability in the secondary
• 1:14:30
  if we can get the ball out and have to force him to make a play
• 1:14:34
  in space. He's a little bit better when he
• 1:14:37
  kind of come up and get a Fin early in the snap if he's late
• 1:14:41
  and he's kind of on the island he's cooked.
• 1:14:44
  Okay. And he's improved his coverage,
• 1:14:49
  particularly man coverage so he looks a lot better in coverage
• 1:14:52
  than he's looked. I think the last probably two
• 1:14:54
  years that We looked at tape on him, but I'd say he's more
• 1:14:58
  dangerous on special teams and he is on defense.
• 1:15:02
  All right. Yeah, the Special Teams.
• 1:15:05
  I mean, and it's solid numbers me.
• 1:15:08
  He's got 500 turns for, you know, 64 yards.
• 1:15:12
  So almost average in 13 which is that can be a field.
• 1:15:14
  Flipper, catch that at the 25, get it up to the 40.
• 1:15:18
  That's that guy changes games, things like that.
• 1:15:22
  It's just the camera on Kelly. Things always funny because of
• 1:15:26
  the announcement was big when it happened because he played it
• 1:15:28
  Oscar Smith to feel like a big win and then a month later, he
• 1:15:32
  Flipped and and he's been doing his own thing since.
• 1:15:36
  All right, one more player on the defense before we take a
• 1:15:40
  look at more defensive scheme. And let's talk about big guy
• 1:15:44
  Desmond Evans, six foot six to sixty five defensive end
• 1:15:48
  Sanford, North Carolina, Lee County High School, 20:24 star
• 1:15:53
  type hundred player. The number two player in North
• 1:15:56
  Carolina that year and a top ten weeks I'd defensive end
• 1:16:01
  position. And as men's issue Desmond this
• 1:16:04
  year, 15 total tackles no loss or sacks, which kind of
• 1:16:10
  interesting knowing that he's putting his hand in the dirt a
• 1:16:13
  little bit more brine, but what's he doing?
• 1:16:16
  Good that he caught, he, you know, he caught my eye but then
• 1:16:21
  he called you're out of stay on here for review.
• 1:16:24
  Yeah, I mean, he's a long defensive end with really good
• 1:16:27
  size, I mean, that's, that's evident they were 66 to 65, you
• 1:16:31
  know, that's It's prototypical NFL size right there.
• 1:16:38
  Plays a good leverage sets, a good Edge.
• 1:16:42
  He's probably the best rusher they have despite not having any
• 1:16:45
  any shown up on the stat sheet yet.
• 1:16:49
  But he struggles at times to shed blocks.
• 1:16:51
  I mean, that's that's the big thing is that if you can get
• 1:16:53
  engaged with him. Well, he doesn't do a good job
• 1:16:56
  of pursuit. He doesn't do a great job of
• 1:17:00
  kind of getting away from. From his blocker and making a
• 1:17:03
  play after he gets fully engaged.
• 1:17:05
  But if you get some move early he does a pretty good job there.
• 1:17:10
  And you know, a lot of times he's like a split second from
• 1:17:14
  getting home on a lot of these rushes.
• 1:17:16
  So we still got to make sure that we contain him that we're
• 1:17:21
  identifying him when he's on the field.
• 1:17:24
  Yep. And you you kind of said it, you
• 1:17:26
  know, he has no sax but he's their best pass rusher.
• 1:17:29
  They only have seven sacks for the year.
• 1:17:32
  So, So those are I'm sure I think our linebackers making
• 1:17:34
  making some sacks there. So it's really interesting to
• 1:17:37
  see that and I mean once again is it a potential in Avail
• 1:17:41
  Talent wasted on the defensive side at Carolina under Gene
• 1:17:45
  chizik defense potentially. So let's actually talk about
• 1:17:48
  that defense Prime because last year and the last few years,
• 1:17:51
  when we talked about this team, they were running to 45.
• 1:17:54
  They hired Gene chizik to this point.
• 1:17:57
  It doesn't look like he's fixing things, but what does it look
• 1:18:00
  like when they play? Yeah, it's a lot less attacking
• 1:18:04
  a lot more fundamentals and kind of playing playing positions.
• 1:18:10
  And right now, it's a multiple front, it's a 425 base.
• 1:18:16
  They use a hybrid, The Players called a star which is kind of
• 1:18:21
  like a whipped I position. And then a hybrid another hybrid
• 1:18:25
  player called a jack which is like a defensive end linebacker
• 1:18:29
  that's where you see, Noah Taylor former UVA.
• 1:18:32
  Linebacker lining up for them. They don't have much success
• 1:18:39
  unless they kind of get you behind the sticks early, and
• 1:18:41
  then can bring some of those blitzes and put some pressure.
• 1:18:48
  They Don't Really pressure on early Downs.
• 1:18:51
  It's very specific on Third and behind the sticks or or
• 1:18:56
  situational. They get gashed a lot in the Run
• 1:19:01
  game. They don't do a good job holding
• 1:19:05
  up in their in their gaps. So there is some opportunity
• 1:19:08
  there. Maybe we see some progress with
• 1:19:09
  our offensive line this week against this.
• 1:19:11
  This front. They are not the the huge front
• 1:19:16
  with Dynamic athletes that we saw with West Virginia last
• 1:19:20
  week, There's No Jordan Jefferson or Dante Stills on
• 1:19:25
  this team. So you know, there is some
• 1:19:30
  opportunity, there they're very Very inconsistent in their
• 1:19:33
  secondary, especially with communication.
• 1:19:35
  There's coverage breakdowns all over the place.
• 1:19:38
  They get fooled a lot with play-action, misdirection,
• 1:19:41
  things like that. And you notice that I didn't
• 1:19:44
  mention storm, duck or Tony Grimes.
• 1:19:48
  You didn't enjoy this preview because they have almost
• 1:19:51
  disappeared in terms of their impact on this defense and that
• 1:19:56
  kind of started last year and it's carried over to this year
• 1:20:00
  and I'd say it's even worse. I mean, You know, there were
• 1:20:03
  guys on the sidelines against Notre Dame, you know, fighting
• 1:20:06
  white boards and fighting you had Tony Grimes, get pulled
• 1:20:10
  after a stupid penalty on a late, hit out of bounds.
• 1:20:16
  There are just so many things that they're doing to hurt
• 1:20:20
  themselves right now. And we know that we've, we've
• 1:20:22
  experienced that on our side as well.
• 1:20:25
  The difference is that we're producing when we're not hurting
• 1:20:29
  ourselves, they are not and that's why we're We're looking
• 1:20:32
  at another situation of a stoppable force meeting a
• 1:20:37
  movable object as we head down to Chapel Hill for Saturday.
• 1:20:42
  Yeah, the old stoppable for first against the movable
• 1:20:45
  objects in a hurricane what? It's bound to go wrong there,
• 1:20:51
  good breakdowns on the defense and on the offense Prime and
• 1:20:56
  after seeing your notes and then looking through things, I feel
• 1:20:59
  like we got some keys out here that it's to me, it's got to
• 1:21:03
  happen. And I mean the first key, I look
• 1:21:05
  at this week is the Hokies running game.
• 1:21:07
  You've already mentioned, how this is not a good defense in
• 1:21:09
  the proofs in the pudding. I mean North Carolina's giving
• 1:21:12
  up, over 216 yards, running per game.
• 1:21:16
  They're almost given up five yards.
• 1:21:18
  Rush, there are 120 third in the nation.
• 1:21:23
  And the honest truth is, if we can't get the Run game, going
• 1:21:28
  this game, then it's probably not going to happen this year.
• 1:21:32
  Maybe against UVA late in the season.
• 1:21:35
  Their defense is looking great either.
• 1:21:37
  But like this is your chance, right?
• 1:21:39
  This is the chance to the plays that we feel like we need.
• 1:21:43
  We need to find the bread and butter on the outside of the
• 1:21:45
  finding poles. Some of those things, maybe even
• 1:21:48
  some jet sweeps. I know well no one wants to hear
• 1:21:51
  it. Ha ha, ha.
• 1:21:53
  Curtis said a dirty word with tell me that running the Jet
• 1:21:58
  Sweep. It like Keshawn King potentially
• 1:22:01
  couldn't break some big play. Plays this week especially how
• 1:22:04
  they run. Yeah I mean if you want to do it
• 1:22:08
  you can do it to Connor Blum like bummer because well so
• 1:22:13
  that's why I got to put it. I think we need to get a little
• 1:22:14
  more creative with how we get the ball in space, whether it's
• 1:22:18
  more of those quick screens, two tight ends, or we can kind of
• 1:22:22
  get to the edge quickly and then get up field and almost use that
• 1:22:26
  as a quasi running play or, you know, something more creative in
• 1:22:32
  the Game. Again, I'd like to see more pain
• 1:22:34
  and pulls in more more, more plays that attack that
• 1:22:38
  perimeter. And I think we will see more
• 1:22:42
  this week. Just because being honest, you
• 1:22:47
  know, even with the players for man fronts, regardless of what
• 1:22:51
  the guys look like for, man, fronts are a little bit easier
• 1:22:53
  to design runs runs against them in three main fronts.
• 1:22:58
  So You know, I think we'll see a little bit more consistency this
• 1:23:03
  week, just because of that. Yeah, now now just so bronze.
• 1:23:10
  Mentioned the passing of Defense, that's not much better.
• 1:23:13
  We've already talked about it in the keys with the bad.
• 1:23:16
  They're giving up almost 280 yards through the air there
• 1:23:18
  113th and that the defense isn't good whatsoever.
• 1:23:22
  It's like if, if there ever was an offense that needed to play a
• 1:23:26
  defense to fix things, we're walking up to that off.
• 1:23:30
  Into this week. Like fix the shit fix the ship.
• 1:23:34
  Shout-out, Glen Pereira watching us out there on YouTube tonight.
• 1:23:37
  Alright, let's look on the UNC offensive side because when I
• 1:23:42
  dug into this stat it's sort of I'm not going to say, shocked
• 1:23:46
  me, but so far this year, UNC hundred first downs, 51 via
• 1:23:52
  passing the can, when I think of that in a potential wet sloppy
• 1:23:57
  game, the winds not going to be howling as bad.
• 1:23:59
  They're saying, 10 to 15 up to 25 and you've said it already a
• 1:24:04
  couple times tonight. Brian with how they're they're
• 1:24:06
  leaning on the past. And when I see a team over 50%
• 1:24:11
  that's how they get their first downs you take away their run
• 1:24:15
  game. I mean you can key in
• 1:24:16
  potentially maybe jump one. Yeah if we can take away their
• 1:24:21
  run game and they get a little hesitant throwing a deep ball
• 1:24:26
  and we're forcing them to have to Dink and dunk the whole game.
• 1:24:29
  I think that played Into our favor because that's when we've
• 1:24:32
  seen maybe make some of his mistakes.
• 1:24:35
  That's when we seen his technique, get a little, a
• 1:24:38
  little lacks there. So if we can do that, that that
• 1:24:42
  bodes. Well again, you know, they've
• 1:24:43
  had 51 through the air with, I think 30, 30, some running and
• 1:24:47
  then they've had like 10 or 12 through three penalties.
• 1:24:51
  Yeah 151 through the air 10 on penalties 39 rushing.
• 1:24:57
  Yep. So I mean Almost and a lot of
• 1:25:01
  those rushing have been made taking off and getting the
• 1:25:03
  first. So it's, you know, it's not a
• 1:25:05
  lot of design runs for May, but it's a lot of glove scrambles
• 1:25:10
  where he's making those plays. So the running game is you know,
• 1:25:14
  very hit-or-miss. If we can contain that if we can
• 1:25:18
  control that make them one-dimensional, make it where
• 1:25:23
  they're not able to, you know, press our Force players into
• 1:25:27
  having to make a decision if we know.
• 1:25:29
  Okay, well, The keys are here. This is a pass play.
• 1:25:32
  This is a run play that lets them play with a little more
• 1:25:36
  technique. A little bit more freedom there,
• 1:25:40
  so that's going to be key. And, you know, we talked about
• 1:25:44
  it last week. It's another one this week.
• 1:25:46
  Hokies Red Zone. D versus UNC red zone offense.
• 1:25:51
  Absolutely. I mean you saw on the tape and
• 1:25:53
  you mentioned it, they get inside the 20, they are super
• 1:25:57
  aggressive going for it. This team hasn't kicked a field
• 1:26:01
  goal inside the Red Zone, all year.
• 1:26:04
  Yep so take them to think about that, they've been 14 trips 13,
• 1:26:08
  touchdowns one, they didn't get anything.
• 1:26:10
  So and then I remember, I saw it and I was like, Brian.
• 1:26:13
  What's the tape showing your like, they get down there, there
• 1:26:15
  they say, screw it. Yep.
• 1:26:17
  I think they went three or four times on Fourth down in the red
• 1:26:21
  zone and you know, I've only missed on one of them.
• 1:26:24
  So you know, they're they're going to be aggressive.
• 1:26:30
  They will? They want seven, they don't want
• 1:26:32
  to settle for three, well, when they're, when they're, what
• 1:26:35
  they're doing, their defense is playing, they have to play for.
• 1:26:38
  So yeah. Yeah.
• 1:26:40
  Now they've been, they've been in a lot of games where they
• 1:26:42
  felt like, they needed as many points as possible.
• 1:26:45
  And they have needed as many points as possible, and just
• 1:26:48
  about every game. I mean, you know, No disrespect
• 1:26:51
  to Florida A&M before. Am put 26 on this team.
• 1:26:55
  Therefore an A&M is, I mean, their best an average team in
• 1:26:59
  the division that play in. And, you know, Broadway, we
• 1:27:02
  talked about you and see and you guys look at the Hokies that's
• 1:27:04
  inside the RedZone, believe it or not, it's been a strength,
• 1:27:07
  you know, only 12 possessions inside the Red Zone this year,
• 1:27:11
  half of a resulted in field goals Forum touchdowns to I'm
• 1:27:15
  stopped. So basically you're looking at
• 1:27:18
  three quarters of the possessions Getting down into
• 1:27:23
  the red zone are basically ending with three or less for
• 1:27:27
  the team that's playing on the Hokey.
• 1:27:29
  So I mean, that's a something's got to give their right either.
• 1:27:33
  They've got to get it to, something's got to give here and
• 1:27:36
  we're going to get them off the field or they're going to.
• 1:27:38
  They're going to start putting touchdowns in there for us.
• 1:27:40
  So yeah. Hopefully, with the way that
• 1:27:44
  we're playing, if we can avoid those penalties, that give them
• 1:27:48
  some extra chances there. I like what we can do there.
• 1:27:52
  All right. Last one we looked at in Bryan
• 1:27:56
  already mentioned, the offensive line is kind of garbage.
• 1:27:58
  Unc's allow 12 sacks this year. They've allowed three in each
• 1:28:03
  game by each team so that no disrespect App State or do
• 1:28:08
  Georgia Southern team. They gave up three to them.
• 1:28:11
  They gave up three to Florida in them and they gave up three to
• 1:28:14
  Notre Dame. Which begs the question Bryant,
• 1:28:17
  should it be to the number? Be like 20?
• 1:28:21
  I have Drake met was a statue. Would that be doubled if he's a
• 1:28:25
  statue? Would be more if he wasn't
• 1:28:27
  making the decisions as quickly as he is there.
• 1:28:30
  Be more like there's this could be significantly worse than it
• 1:28:34
  is but the way they play and the the scheme they have helps them
• 1:28:41
  avoid some sacks by default. So the fact that they still have
• 1:28:44
  12 is, I think indicative of how that offensive plays going right
• 1:28:49
  now and it's not good. It's again one of the worst in
• 1:28:52
  the country at giving up those type plays.
• 1:28:55
  Alright. So there you key for the Hokies
• 1:28:58
  to hopefully get the wind. But now it's prediction time.
• 1:29:02
  Ryan and we were back here. Again, we have to make
• 1:29:05
  predictions every week. So I lived last week, I missed.
• 1:29:10
  What do you say? This week, well, I think this is
• 1:29:16
  going to be a sloppy messy game. I think we do a good job of
• 1:29:21
  turning them into a one-dimensional team, but I
• 1:29:25
  think they do get some points on is I think they do, score some
• 1:29:28
  touchdowns on us. I think we actually forced them
• 1:29:31
  to kick one field goal though, I've got them getting to 24 and
• 1:29:36
  I think we make some improvements on the offensive
• 1:29:39
  side this week. I think we do some good things
• 1:29:43
  considering the conditions on that side of the ball this week,
• 1:29:46
  but I don't think it's enough. I think we end up with 17.
• 1:29:49
  So I've got UNC 24, Virginia Tech 17.
• 1:29:53
  All right, I'm not to are far off from you Brian you know all
• 1:29:58
  the stuff we're seeing offensively and defensively, we
• 1:30:02
  saw the defense essentially hold a teen that was averaging five
• 1:30:06
  hundred and twenty yards just under 100 or just above.
• 1:30:11
  Arch from their normal, only give up 26 points.
• 1:30:14
  And the funny part is they gave up 10 in the last 15 minutes
• 1:30:18
  against West Virginia. So I think the game is going to
• 1:30:22
  be competitive but I've got to lean you in see on this.
• 1:30:25
  I think they do punch it in a couple extra times in the red
• 1:30:28
  zone and our offense just can't keep up 28:20 Carolina in this
• 1:30:34
  case. But they're caveat right?
• 1:30:38
  This week because of how bad. The conditions and how bad the
• 1:30:43
  UNC offense is. Yeah.
• 1:30:45
  And you know, taking into account, you know, we might
• 1:30:48
  clean up some of the penalties and an excuse that we had last
• 1:30:54
  week as well. So if you take that into
• 1:30:56
  account, if we can rush for 150 yards against this team, you
• 1:31:00
  two, if you put that on the stat sheet, if you go out there and
• 1:31:05
  are able to establish any type of consistent running game and
• 1:31:10
  being Efficient if not explosive in the passing game, I think we
• 1:31:16
  just need to be efficient in the passing game.
• 1:31:18
  If we can do those things against a defense, that's going
• 1:31:23
  to give you those opportunities. And we, if we can take advantage
• 1:31:27
  of them, then we've got a chance here because I think our defense
• 1:31:31
  is good enough to keep them in check.
• 1:31:33
  Yeah. Yeah, I don't think they're
• 1:31:36
  going to go out there and explode for the same type of
• 1:31:39
  points. They've done not only this year
• 1:31:41
  but overall I think if we can hold them in that, you know, mid
• 1:31:45
  to Upper 20s range, then we have we have a shot here.
• 1:31:51
  Absolutely, and again with it being a wet yucky game, the
• 1:31:55
  balls definitely going to bounce funny and again I think we just
• 1:32:00
  look for improvement, right? We look for those things Jenkins
• 1:32:03
  has been Jenkins talked about with the The beginning of the
• 1:32:05
  episode about cleaning up the penalties about discipline
• 1:32:08
  playing together. It's things like that that are
• 1:32:12
  going to get further. We're losing games, we're not
• 1:32:15
  fighting on the sidelines, right?
• 1:32:18
  Yep. There's they're hanging in it
• 1:32:21
  together. So, you know, going to be
• 1:32:23
  interesting to see how it goes. Alright, Brawn.
• 1:32:26
  So let's talk about our big screen or for the week here,
• 1:32:30
  I'll lead with this one, it's going to be 7:30, it's going to
• 1:32:33
  be in Death Valley. Top 10 matchup of ACC teams.
• 1:32:37
  Clemson versus NC State likely to be on the back end of a
• 1:32:41
  hurricane when that game kicks. I think that's what they're
• 1:32:44
  saying, right? It's going to be slowly.
• 1:32:47
  Moving away from Clemson as the game comes in NC State's a six
• 1:32:52
  and a half Point dog. In with this one I think NC
• 1:32:56
  State's going to cover that six and a half.
• 1:32:58
  I think it's good. This is going to be a war.
• 1:32:59
  Like it was it? Wait.
• 1:33:01
  I got to watch the last quarter and a half.
• 1:33:04
  That was such Entertaining football game in every sense of
• 1:33:07
  the word way you can Clemson but I think Clemson's going to get
• 1:33:12
  them in the something fluky, I think it's going to be like a
• 1:33:15
  31-28 game and Clemson wins and the closing minutes with you
• 1:33:21
  know what what? Whatever they've had stuck up
• 1:33:24
  there for the last decade. Yeah, my big one is going to be
• 1:33:31
  the big new term an Kentucky Ole Miss.
• 1:33:35
  Brides already planning knowing that he's not going to be able
• 1:33:37
  to do anything outside, any yard work.
• 1:33:40
  Let's go ahead and circle the 12:00.
• 1:33:42
  Maybe maybe maybe cook a nice little heavy lunch.
• 1:33:46
  They're getting the main. Yeah, I'm either going to be,
• 1:33:49
  I'm either going to be here or down in Virginia Beach.
• 1:33:51
  So, okay, depending on what the how quickly the weather gets
• 1:33:57
  into town is going to determine whether we take a trip down
• 1:34:00
  there to to my in-laws, this weekend, or not.
• 1:34:03
  But either way Going to be football on a big screen
• 1:34:09
  somewhere start at noon and it's going to be Kentucky, Ole Miss
• 1:34:13
  Ole Miss home, favorite six and a half points.
• 1:34:18
  I'm taking Kentucky and the six and a half here.
• 1:34:20
  I think Ole Miss probably wins this one but I like Kentucky to
• 1:34:25
  hang in there and keep it close. Think we'll see to have another
• 1:34:31
  big game for Kentucky, but I think Ole Miss It's just has a
• 1:34:35
  little bit more Firepower, that's going to close it down in
• 1:34:37
  the end. Yeah but I think the Stoops
• 1:34:40
  defense will keep them in there but that is going to be.
• 1:34:42
  The one thing is we know Lane can scheme the hell out of
• 1:34:45
  things on offense and exploit just enough times to be leaked,
• 1:34:50
  defense has a couple other news and notes.
• 1:34:52
  We didn't hit it earlier because we were running a little late.
• 1:34:56
  The West Virginia game, Thursday night was ESPN's, highest
• 1:35:00
  Thursday night game in five years, and that was the Egg Bowl
• 1:35:04
  back in 20. 17, 1.6 million viewers and between 9:00 and
• 1:35:11
  9:30. It was a little over 2 million
• 1:35:14
  and it is some people are going to say, well, that's not a huge
• 1:35:16
  number. You're competing against the NFL
• 1:35:19
  which started only 40 minutes after we kick.
• 1:35:22
  And one of those Brands being Pittsburgh being literally, one
• 1:35:26
  of the big National brand. So, you know, again, it was one
• 1:35:31
  of the three biggest brands and in the sport.
• 1:35:33
  Yeah. So doing That I think that again
• 1:35:36
  it shows you where we are still. If we play a night game we're
• 1:35:40
  still going to get people to turn out fans and casuals alike
• 1:35:46
  or a drawing. We're a drone not just for the
• 1:35:48
  interns. They peaked take the 9:00.
• 1:35:52
  Well actually, it's exactly. Yeah.
• 1:35:55
  The other couple big news was Jeff Collins getting fired, kind
• 1:36:00
  of shocked that they dry them a little bit further but I mean I
• 1:36:05
  thought he had the rest of this year or at least until November,
• 1:36:11
  but I mean we've already seen. There's testing.
• 1:36:15
  There's the optimum September. Yeah, so you don't you don't see
• 1:36:22
  the September firing very often not it happens, the 80s gone
• 1:36:27
  there as well. So they are kind of starting
• 1:36:31
  from scratch there and they're in that department in terms of
• 1:36:35
  Adding that that brand back up. Well no now it makes sense.
• 1:36:40
  If you're going to fire the ad then you go in fire, the head
• 1:36:43
  coach. So when that ad walks in he
• 1:36:45
  knows job one. And actually, he can sit across
• 1:36:48
  the table from you in the interviews and tell you who he's
• 1:36:50
  going after and what he's going. After, what you can see that
• 1:36:53
  they need a different Vision, it wasn't just, can I bring in a
• 1:36:57
  guy that has that young has energy can recruit And can and
• 1:37:01
  can put a competent team out there.
• 1:37:04
  That wasn't enough early. I think Collins Didn't really
• 1:37:10
  conform to the role as well as they thought.
• 1:37:13
  I think there were, there were times where they, the coaching
• 1:37:19
  staff hurt themselves. Just as much as the opponent
• 1:37:22
  did. But in the same time, I think
• 1:37:27
  they're looking for a completely different direction at this
• 1:37:30
  point because I don't, I don't think they.
• 1:37:32
  I think they see, they can't just go back to apologize.
• 1:37:35
  Onsen, you know, Academy Style. Offense and have success but
• 1:37:42
  they also can't just throw the flavor of the week you know
• 1:37:47
  offensive-minded spread system in there and just you plug and
• 1:37:51
  play. They had some good players that
• 1:37:55
  came in there initially Gibbs. Holy moly herbs.
• 1:37:59
  Yeah, and Jeff Simmons. Yeah.
• 1:38:03
  But they never were able to put put the full picture together
• 1:38:07
  and they ER we're a pretty sizable rebuild.
• 1:38:14
  They are literally, the hurricane took the house into
• 1:38:17
  the ocean rebuild. Yeah, I've been seriously.
• 1:38:20
  Like, it's like, literally, you're relaying the foundation
• 1:38:23
  there. I mean, and Collins had a big
• 1:38:24
  job. I mean, going from shrimp.
• 1:38:27
  Allow they were recruiting on offense to what they were trying
• 1:38:31
  to do with the spread. I mean, you know, we're seeing
• 1:38:33
  it now with an opponent. We play with whatever they're
• 1:38:37
  trying to do the same thing right now and it's not Going
• 1:38:39
  well at all and you know you talk about square peg, round
• 1:38:46
  hole. That's, that's very much I
• 1:38:47
  think. What, what was happening there?
• 1:38:49
  There wasn't a plan to ease from one system into another.
• 1:38:54
  It was very much. A, this is what we're doing, you
• 1:38:59
  know, get on board or or, or not.
• 1:39:01
  And I think just there wasn't enough success.
• 1:39:05
  And there wasn't enough trajectory that said we're
• 1:39:08
  moving in the right direction. Direction at this point where
• 1:39:12
  the product on the field was acceptable anymore.
• 1:39:16
  There you go. Brian.
• 1:39:19
  I'm looking here at CBS Sports, looks like some games are
• 1:39:22
  getting moved to Sunday Eastern Washington and Florida.
• 1:39:28
  You see, FSM, you know, change to Wake Forest, Florida state
• 1:39:33
  yet, South Carolina and he threw the ultimate Clausen through the
• 1:39:38
  ultimatum out there, though. So we'll see if he stands by it.
• 1:39:43
  Well, I mean it is what it is. I'm South Carolina and all this
• 1:39:49
  is suck. South Carolina are see the south
• 1:39:52
  Florida and East Carolina. Originally scheduled to kick at
• 1:39:57
  Raymond. James Stadium, are going to go
• 1:39:59
  to Boca, they're going to the other side of the state to play.
• 1:40:03
  Oh Cam and it'll kick off at 2:00 and other me that that
• 1:40:10
  Tampa side is going to get, get hit pretty good.
• 1:40:13
  Well, I talked to my buddy, Mike at work today, you know, it's
• 1:40:15
  been 100 years since a took a direct hit from a hurricane.
• 1:40:19
  Man, that's insane. Like me.
• 1:40:21
  And him were just, I'm like, serious.
• 1:40:23
  And then you start thinking about it, it has an IT wrecks
• 1:40:26
  there. I mean, it's going to really
• 1:40:27
  wrecked South Carolina. South Carolina, state moves to
• 1:40:30
  Thursday night, Shane. Beamer did that strictly because
• 1:40:33
  he knows he has a war on his hands against Kentucky next
• 1:40:36
  week. Might as well get two extra days
• 1:40:38
  of prep. Right there we go.
• 1:40:40
  Nothing wrong. That will see if clausen's
• 1:40:43
  ultimatum holds holds tight there.
• 1:40:50
  Well the weird part is it's the Saturday, it's going to be
• 1:40:54
  further up the coast. Now if you talk about it's
• 1:40:56
  dangerous travel and I don't my kids stay there.
• 1:40:59
  I get it completely. So move the game to 7:00 or move
• 1:41:07
  your flight up. So you're there a day early and
• 1:41:10
  you can prep in other facilities?
• 1:41:12
  Yeah, who knows? It's going to be interesting
• 1:41:15
  weekend. All right, since nothing else is
• 1:41:17
  breaking that. I see.
• 1:41:18
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• 1:41:20
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• 1:41:24
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