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Mark Belling Podcast #82: Trump makes a compelling argument that tariffs (and the threat of them) are creating a safer and more peaceful world. Also: will the Supreme Court strip Trump of his tariff powers and our weekly football preview and point spread picks. · The Mark Belling Podcast

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Speaker 2: except very punchy stuff. This is a line from Charles Bukowski.
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Speaker 2: The problem with the world is that the intelligent people
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Speaker 2: are full of doubts. Well the stupid one. Stupid ones
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Speaker 2: are full of confidence. Boy does that nail it. I
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Speaker 2: go back to COVID, in which I was simply rejecting
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Speaker 2: are a couple of issues that I think are tied together,
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Speaker 2: and I think almost nobody has picked up on this.
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Speaker 2: What I want to do is focus initially on one
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Speaker 2: of the issues is my way of getting into the other.
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Speaker 2: So that's a little bit of a setup. President Trump
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Speaker 2: did the interview on Sunday night. We talked about a
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Speaker 2: podcast earlier in the week with Nora O'Donnell on sixty Minutes,
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Speaker 2: and I thought that it was Trump at his best, because,
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Speaker 2: first of all, Nora o'donna wanted to carve him up
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Speaker 2: and interrupt him. But CBS is under new ownership and
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Speaker 2: she was under I think instructions to be a agressive
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Speaker 2: with Trump, but to let him get his answers in.
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Speaker 2: And Trump got his answers in anyway. One of the
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Speaker 2: areas that they discussed is I think an area in
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Speaker 2: which Trump has been shockingly successful. One of the things
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Speaker 2: that we just don't pay enough attention to our problems
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Speaker 2: that we avert. For example, you may hear the authorities
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Speaker 2: in a case, say we foiled a plot of somebody
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Speaker 2: who is going to blow up a school, you didn't
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Speaker 2: think anything about it, Well, imagine if they didn't. We
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Speaker 2: have the world a world right now that's on edge.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of reasons for it. The radicalization of Islam,
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Speaker 2: factional dispear in many parts of the world, the fact
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Speaker 2: that the world is increasingly nuclear, the abrogation of American
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Speaker 2: power during Biden, a lot of factors. It is extraordinary
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Speaker 2: to me how much peace Trump is bringing to the
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Speaker 2: world now. The critics of Trump just want to say, well,
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Speaker 2: what about Russian Ukraine? And undeniably that war is still
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Speaker 2: going on, and in the response that Trump gives here,
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Speaker 2: it's going to be addressed. And it's the point that
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Speaker 2: Nora O'Donnell is raising. But we don't pay enough attention
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Speaker 2: to the fact that it was only a few months
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Speaker 2: ago that Indian and Pakistan were closed. This is one
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Speaker 2: of those issues that I talked earlier about Pukowski back
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Speaker 2: when we're in college, you know, and I don't know
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Speaker 2: about today. Nobody discusses ideas. When you're around other guys
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Speaker 2: in the front, we would discuss the issues. You know.
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Speaker 2: One of the things was debated is when World War
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Speaker 2: three breaks out. Whenever it is where will it be
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Speaker 2: or better put, what's the most dangerous part of the world.
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Speaker 2: A lot of people say the Middle East, but there
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Speaker 2: were many people this goes back decades that said Indian Pakistan.
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Speaker 2: They're both no clear and the level of hatred is
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Speaker 2: as great as Israel in the Arab nations, It's as
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Speaker 2: great as anything. It's religiously driven, it's border driven. There's
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Speaker 2: a time in which there was a separate country called
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Speaker 2: East Pakistan, since changed its name. India is predominantly hiddenu
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Speaker 2: and Pakistan is virtually entirely Muslim. You know. British colonialism
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Speaker 2: kept it all in order. But when they gained their independence.
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Speaker 2: It goes back to Gandhi, who is the great pacifist
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Speaker 2: at the time and probably averted in his era the
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Speaker 2: Great War between India and Pakistan. They were ready to
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Speaker 2: go to nuclear war. We managed to talk them off
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Speaker 2: the edge, as we've done again and again and again
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Speaker 2: under Trump. One of the things that simply can't be
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Speaker 2: processed by people who hate promp he's a warmonger in
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Speaker 2: the world. Trump is pacifist. Isn't the right term. Trump
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Speaker 2: believes in bringing peace to the world without American military intervention.
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Speaker 2: And yesterday's podcast, I talked briefly about the legacy of
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Speaker 2: Dick Cheney. He was an interventionist. Trump is not someone
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Speaker 2: who says, what doesn't involve us, to hell with it,
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Speaker 2: Let the world go to hell, let them figure it out.
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Speaker 2: We can't have that attitude. And I'm somebody that has
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Speaker 2: gone from being an interventionist, which I clearly was in
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Speaker 2: the Bush era. I considered myself a Neocon, but have
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Speaker 2: enough of an open mind to see it didn't work.
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Speaker 2: We're sticking our beaks into all sorts of things and
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Speaker 2: just getting our people killed, wasting a ton of money,
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Speaker 2: and nothing was ever gonna g anny better. And some
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Speaker 2: of the conservative movement had gone to being isolationist. I'm
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Speaker 2: not that either. We live on a planet that if
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Speaker 2: a nuclear war starts out, it doesn't really matter if
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Speaker 2: it starts in Norway or Kardosha. The radiation's gonna kill
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Speaker 2: us all, not to mention the fact that a decent
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Speaker 2: human being wants peace in the world. I think the
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Speaker 2: reason Trump has been so successful in so many of
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Speaker 2: these areas is he doesn't view the world the same
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Speaker 2: way the conventional leaders of both political parties do. There's
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Speaker 2: another part of this that I'm going to get to.
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Speaker 2: I said it was a two pronged discussion in a moment.
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Speaker 2: But here's the exchange with Norah O'Donnell, and I need
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Speaker 2: to set it up because she had rupted him a
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Speaker 2: couple of times. She's just jumping on. You know. Trump
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Speaker 2: said he was going to get the war between Ukraine
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Speaker 2: and Russia ended, and I thought he was going to
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Speaker 2: get it ended prior to this. It's the one nut
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Speaker 2: that he hasn't cracked. And it's I just think because
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Speaker 2: the leaders of the two nations want war, but look
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Speaker 2: at all the others that he stopped. So at any words,
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Speaker 2: that becomes her premise. And Trump has a retort. You know,
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Speaker 2: the term now is bring receipts. The term just came
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Speaker 2: out of nowhere three years ago. In other words, he
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Speaker 2: has the documentation to prove his point, and he's going
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Speaker 2: to go through I don't want to get the whole
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Speaker 2: thing away. He pulls out a piece of paper and
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Speaker 2: he talks about all of the wars that were on
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Speaker 2: the verge of starting or underway that he's ended. And
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Speaker 2: he's only but this is let's see ten months, not
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Speaker 2: quite ten. It would be ten months. Yeah, ten months
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Speaker 2: on November twentieth. So here's this exchange. But it'll with
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Speaker 2: this a little back and forth about Russian Ukraine and
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Speaker 2: why he hasn't solved this, and he goes into some
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Speaker 2: of the others, and I want you to listen to
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Speaker 2: this because a point that he makes at the end
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Speaker 2: is work is the subject that I'm linking to. So
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Speaker 2: this is again Trump from sixty minutes on Sunday.
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Speaker 4: Nd Nora, that was Joe Biden's war, not.
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Speaker 2: I need to Can you take it back to the beginning,
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Speaker 2: Paul or not? Yeah, take it back. I need to
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Speaker 2: set that up again. Her question that she's asking is
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Speaker 2: about Russia and Ukraine. So when he said, Joe, but Ace,
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Speaker 2: you know she's tried it, Why haven't read of the war?
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Speaker 2: Why haven't you had an end of the war? And
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Speaker 2: his the answer that he's giving here is starting with
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Speaker 2: this didn't start on me. I'm trying to clean up
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Speaker 2: a mess that somebody else let happen. Now, that's so
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Speaker 2: that's the context that we're the answer will start. Let's
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Speaker 2: play it.
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Speaker 4: Again, Nora, that was Joe Biden's war, not my war.
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Speaker 4: I inherited that stupid war. That should not have been
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Speaker 4: a war that would have never happened if I were president,
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Speaker 4: and by the way, for four years it didn't happen.
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Speaker 2: There was never even a doubt.
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Speaker 4: Then the election was rigged and stolen, and all of
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Speaker 4: a sudden, you see them forming up at the line.
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Speaker 4: And now I come back and I'm going to get
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Speaker 4: that one solved too. But I brought I mean, just
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Speaker 4: a little list of Look at this wars. How many
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Speaker 4: did I solve? Cambodia, this is Cambodia, Thailand, Costovo, Serbia, Congo,
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Speaker 4: the Congo and Rwanda, Pakistan and India. That was going
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Speaker 4: to be a beauty. They shot down seven planes. Israel
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Speaker 4: and Iran, you've heard about that one. Egypt and Ethiopia.
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Speaker 4: That's another beauty. Ethiopia built a big damn where there's
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Speaker 4: no water going to the Nile. Armenia and Azerbaijan. And
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Speaker 4: if you take a look Israel and Hamas, which is
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Speaker 4: a rough little situation, but it's going to be I.
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Speaker 2: Do want to talk about. I mean, you have branded
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Speaker 2: yourself the peace President.
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Speaker 4: Well, I think I did pretty good. I solved Those
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Speaker 4: are eight of the nine wars I solved. You know
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Speaker 4: how I solved them. I said, in many cases, in
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Speaker 4: sixty percent, I said, if you don't stop fighting, I'm
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Speaker 4: putting tarif from both of your countries and you're not
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Speaker 4: going to be able to do business.
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Speaker 3: Why isn't that working with Putin?
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Speaker 4: It is working with Putin. I think I did different
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Speaker 4: with him because we don't do very much business with Russia.
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Speaker 2: For one thing.
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Speaker 4: You know, he's not like somebody that buys a lot
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Speaker 4: from US because of foolishness, and I think he'd like
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Speaker 4: to be. I think he wants to come in and
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Speaker 4: he wants to trade with US, and he wants to
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Speaker 4: make a lot of money for Russia. And I think
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Speaker 4: that's great.
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Speaker 2: That's what we get it done in a couple of months.
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Speaker 4: To you, I think we're going to get it done yet,
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Speaker 4: I think he really wants to do business with the US.
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Speaker 4: But it did work with India, and it did work
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Speaker 4: with Pakistan, and it did work with sixty percent of
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Speaker 4: those countries. I can tell you if it wasn't for
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Speaker 4: tariffs and trade, I wouldn't have been able to make
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Speaker 4: the deals. But I stopped. As an example, India does
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Speaker 4: a lot of business with US. They were going to work,
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Speaker 4: they were going to have a nuclear war with Pakistan.
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Speaker 4: The Prime Minister Pakistan stood up the other day and
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Speaker 4: he said, if Donald Trump didn't get involved, many millions
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Speaker 4: of people would be dead right now. That was a
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Speaker 4: bad war. He's ready to shut down aeroplanes all over
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Speaker 4: the place. That was going to be a bad war.
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Speaker 4: And I told both of them, I said, if you
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Speaker 4: guys don't work out a deal fast, you're not going
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Speaker 4: to do any business with the United States. And they
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Speaker 4: do a lot of business with the United States. And
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Speaker 4: they were both great leaders, and they worked out a
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Speaker 4: deal and they stopped the war that would have been
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Speaker 4: a bad war, would have been a nuclear war. No.
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Speaker 2: One of the things that bad interviewers do is they
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Speaker 2: focus on the questions that they want to ask and
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Speaker 2: they don't listen. She kept prodding down, but what about this,
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Speaker 2: what about this? What about this? And I think that
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Speaker 2: she was missing where Trump was going with this answer,
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Speaker 2: which is really interesting. Prior to Trump, in prior to
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Speaker 2: Trump's first term, prior to a second term, people have
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Speaker 2: had positions on tariffs, and going back to that quote
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Speaker 2: from Pokowski, not enough people have doubts my position on tariffs,
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Speaker 2: as you know, has been mixed. I want to step
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Speaker 2: back for a moment and then get to where Trump
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Speaker 2: was going with this. One of my criticisms that you
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Speaker 2: heard me express. I used to be a free trader,
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Speaker 2: I would say during the years I did this program
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Speaker 2: in the nineties and the early Zeros, I was a
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Speaker 2: free trader. And then I said, I'm not an isolationist,
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Speaker 2: but I'm something other than a free trader. Fear trader
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Speaker 2: isn't really the right term either. I believe that free
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Speaker 2: trade versus protection is and free trade is better. But
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Speaker 2: the mistake that we have made in our foreign policy,
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Speaker 2: and this goes back decades of past presidents, is we
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Speaker 2: have treated foreign policy and trade policy as separate. One
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Speaker 2: of the reasons China has walked all over US ever
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Speaker 2: since events Nixon went to China in nineteen seventy two
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Speaker 2: three whatever it was fifty years ago and opened the
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Speaker 2: door to us having a relationship with China is we
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Speaker 2: have had certain desires for China to behave in certain
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Speaker 2: ways with regard to foreign policy, but we didn't use
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Speaker 2: our best lever, which is trade. China's economy has grown
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Speaker 2: largely because of the business it does with the United States.
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Speaker 2: We could have used that business and the threat to
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Speaker 2: do less of it as leverage to get China to
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Speaker 2: do what we wanted them to do in other areas.
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Speaker 2: But we've kept the two separate because, oh, don't mess
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Speaker 2: up trade. Don' messuprade. They're too many American companies that
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Speaker 2: better from trade. Trump Trump has said, screw that, I
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Speaker 2: got a tool here in any dealing that we have
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Speaker 2: in life. You use the leverage you have. Trade and
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Speaker 2: foreign policy under Trump have become connected. Without regard to
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Speaker 2: your view of trade and tariff. Oh, it's raising prices
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Speaker 2: for Americans. Well, whether it is or it isn't. First
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Speaker 2: of all, I think that the evidence is is that
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Speaker 2: it actually isn't, which is surprising. But maybe it is,
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Speaker 2: maybe it will. There are other components to this. Trump said,
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Speaker 2: when India and Pakistan, we're ready to go nukate one
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Speaker 2: another member. Both are nuclear. He said he's gonna slap
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Speaker 2: tariffs on the both of them. India felt as though
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Speaker 2: it was aggrieved and it was going to hit Pakistan.
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Speaker 2: Do you understand how important the United States is to
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Speaker 2: India's economy. It's right there with China. Trump said, I'm
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Speaker 2: gonna tariff you to death if you hit Pakistan, and
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Speaker 2: he told Pakistan the same thing that got them off
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Speaker 2: what could have been a terrible world war. No, why
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Speaker 2: is it working with Russia? Trump at an interesting point,
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Speaker 2: We actually don't trade much with Russia versus all. Russia
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Speaker 2: doesn't have many exports. They got vodka, and they've got energy. Well,
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Speaker 2: we have a lot of energy ourselves. We don't need
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Speaker 2: their energy. A lot of other nations do. And now
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Speaker 2: they figured out how to make vodka from damn near everything.
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Speaker 2: I swear when I find is there anything you can't
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Speaker 2: make vodka from? You basically let something rot and it
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Speaker 2: then turns into vogue. Anyway, we don't do a lot
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Speaker 2: of business with them, So therefore Trump has not had
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Speaker 2: the ability to tear a Russia to death because they
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Speaker 2: don't sell that much stuff to us. The point though,
18:57
Speaker 2: that Trump was making in all of these high spots
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Speaker 2: that he's averted, he's used not terrafts but the threat
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Speaker 2: of tariffs to make a more peaceful world. Here's where
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Speaker 2: Trump's I love the term fresh eyes because it just
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Speaker 2: works when you see something you know. The cops use
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Speaker 2: it all the time. If two detectives are stimied in
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Speaker 2: a case, they'll move off to something else, So they're
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Speaker 2: bringing two others. Because you just look at it something
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Speaker 2: so long you miss the obvious. One of the things
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Speaker 2: that I do when I kill time on a plane
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Speaker 2: is I'll do a crosser puzzle stuff like that. When
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Speaker 2: I get stalled in an area, I moved to another
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Speaker 2: part of the puzzle. Come back ten minutes later to
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Speaker 2: the part that I was like, It's amazing how I
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Speaker 2: get the answer. It's amazing. Your mind gets cleared, and
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Speaker 2: you know the things that you were flummocks on fresh eyes.
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Speaker 2: Trump has had fresh eyes. If Trump's good at anything
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Speaker 2: in life, it's understanding what his strengths and weaknesses are.
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Speaker 2: It's how he's done all of these It's how he
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Speaker 2: built Atlantic City, It's how he built his casinos in
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Speaker 2: some of these bond deals in which frankly, he got
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Speaker 2: the better of a lot of these negotiations because he
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Speaker 2: figured out the strengths and weaknesses. He's very good at
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Speaker 2: understanding leverage and pressure. The United States is a massive
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Speaker 2: consumer nation, and it is also still a massive producer
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Speaker 2: of product, particularly technology. Lots of nations in the world
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Speaker 2: need our stuff and they need us to buy their stuff.
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Speaker 2: So he's put that on the table, and he's using it,
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Speaker 2: and I think so far to great success. You can't
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Speaker 2: look at trade in a vacuum. Are we getting screwed
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Speaker 2: by other countries? Are the tariff's going to raise prices
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Speaker 2: on us? And the other point the Trump makes look
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Speaker 2: at all the money we're making off the tariffs. That
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Speaker 2: is one component of it. But the other component of
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Speaker 2: it is we can use the threat of slapping you
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Speaker 2: with a terraf for not selling our stuff to you,
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Speaker 2: or blocking you from selling to what is selling to us,
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Speaker 2: et cetera, to achieve all sorts of other important goals
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Speaker 2: we have, including world peace. Unrelated to tariff. Trump mentioned
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Speaker 2: Israel and Iran. Well, we know he settled that. Trump
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Speaker 2: just sized this up. Iran's ason. The hole is we're
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Speaker 2: building nukes and we can threaten to nuke out Israel.
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Speaker 2: Trump knocked out at RAN's nukes, and now Iran is
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Speaker 2: probably going to spend all of its time going back
21:27
Speaker 2: to square one and rebuilding its nukes. And so Iran,
21:30
Speaker 2: we're not going to support Hamas anymore. We got bigger
21:33
Speaker 2: problems here. Trump's solved two problems there. First of all,
21:39
Speaker 2: he looked the other way as Israel bombed Iran and
21:43
Speaker 2: took out Iran's defenses, so when we came in to bomb,
21:48
Speaker 2: they couldn't shoot any of our bombers down because Israel
21:51
Speaker 2: had pummeled all of their anti aircraft on the ground.
21:53
Speaker 2: Let them do all of that. So we went in untouched,
21:56
Speaker 2: dropped these bombs, wipe out the nuclear program. How can
21:59
Speaker 2: anyone argue that hasn't made for him our peaceful world.
22:01
Speaker 2: It may result in peace throughout the Middle East, which
22:07
Speaker 2: brings you to myn X point. The Supreme Court is
22:11
Speaker 2: hearing oral arguments this hazard or oral arguments this week
22:15
Speaker 2: on whether or not Trump has the ability to unilaterally
22:18
Speaker 2: imposed heroffs. Trump says it's the most important ruling the
22:23
Speaker 2: Supreme Court will make one hundred years. I'd say at
22:28
Speaker 2: least seventy five Brown versus Board of Education. Separate but
22:31
Speaker 2: equal is unconstitutionally really important. It's huge. The fear is
22:39
Speaker 2: the two moderates who lean conservative, the Chief Justice and
22:47
Speaker 2: the law professor from Notre Dame. Are they going to
22:53
Speaker 2: rule that Trump doesn't have this authority. I think it
22:57
Speaker 2: is critical that the Court get this right. Trump is
23:05
Speaker 2: using not tariffs alone, but the threat of tariffs. You
23:10
Speaker 2: can't go to the Congress and pass a bill setting
23:12
Speaker 2: a tariff if you're then going to take a change
23:14
Speaker 2: it back. He wants to be able to threaten alter
23:17
Speaker 2: moves so he can utilize this power to exercise American
23:23
Speaker 2: foreign policy. The one thing the Constitution is clear on
23:27
Speaker 2: is that foreign policy is the exclusive role of the
23:30
Speaker 2: executive branch, not declaration of war but everything else. Marco
23:34
Speaker 2: Rubio has made this point clear. The Supreme Court can't
23:36
Speaker 2: tell Trump anything on foreign policy. The concert is clear
23:39
Speaker 2: it is the domain of the executive. The question is
23:42
Speaker 2: trade foreign policy. Constitution doesn't say it's a gray area.
23:48
Speaker 2: I think it is critical that they get this right.
23:54
Speaker 2: If you don't want us to use trade as a leverage,
23:59
Speaker 2: you simply a fight not only the world to walk
24:01
Speaker 2: all over us, but you limit our ability to do
24:05
Speaker 2: good in the world. It used to be that the
24:06
Speaker 2: do gooder is the ones who wanted to save the
24:08
Speaker 2: whole world were the left, and it used to be
24:11
Speaker 2: the people on the right. It didn't give a crap
24:13
Speaker 2: if people were killing one another. And it's some two
24:15
Speaker 2: remote parts of the world like Africa, that's all changed.
24:20
Speaker 2: The left doesn't seem to care at all about awful
24:25
Speaker 2: things going on in the world, because many of the
24:27
Speaker 2: awful people doing awful things are on their side, the
24:30
Speaker 2: Venezuelan dictators and drug lords, the Muslim terrorists, the people
24:36
Speaker 2: practicing genocide in Central Africa. I don't think that the
24:42
Speaker 2: United States needs to focus all that much on things
24:44
Speaker 2: that aren't our vital interest. But if we can make
24:47
Speaker 2: for a more peaceful world when that also benefits us,
24:50
Speaker 2: of course we should do it. You have to use
24:53
Speaker 2: what you have, and the United States not using trade.
25:00
Speaker 2: It's kind of a bad reference to make because of
25:02
Speaker 2: the awful loss of Tucker Craft, but it would have
25:04
Speaker 2: been like if the Packers never threw the ball to
25:06
Speaker 2: Tucker Craft once they realized he was one of the
25:08
Speaker 2: great titans. You use what you have. Can I tell
25:13
Speaker 2: a funny story about this? It's good, it's good. I
25:18
Speaker 2: have this really powerful, high minded segment here, and I'm
25:21
Speaker 2: just gonna take it straight into the gutter. But that's
25:24
Speaker 2: kind of what I'm known for, isn't it. I just
25:28
Speaker 2: it's just one of the you get every now and
25:29
Speaker 2: then something happens. I mean, I forget everything, you forget
25:32
Speaker 2: even more than me. I hope Paul lives next door
25:36
Speaker 2: to me in the nursing home. Because A, it means
25:37
Speaker 2: I've been a good one given the fact that he's
25:39
Speaker 2: got somehow has managed to a mass, massive amounts of money,
25:42
Speaker 2: we would have sitting there and you know, and you
25:44
Speaker 2: start to lose it as people do you imagine the
25:47
Speaker 2: two of us. We aren't gonna have one damn thing right.
25:51
Speaker 2: We're both gonna know that we were sort of a
25:53
Speaker 2: big deal in radio, but we'll have all the details wrong.
25:56
Speaker 2: You're gonna somehow turn it into you were the host
25:59
Speaker 2: of the show. And and I was like, anyway, this
26:07
Speaker 2: is back when I was in Madison. I can at
26:08
Speaker 2: least place this. I love being able to tell anything
26:11
Speaker 2: that happened prior to Milwaukee is a good story to
26:13
Speaker 2: tell because ain't nobody's gonna know who it is. And
26:15
Speaker 2: b it means the story so long ago that you
26:17
Speaker 2: can't hold it against me. Statue of the limitations is
26:19
Speaker 2: read out there was all right, now understand that I'm
26:27
Speaker 2: right in the age of being you know, frisky. I
26:33
Speaker 2: was in Madison from eighty six to eighty nine. Madison
26:38
Speaker 2: was stupid then, but it was not is like there
26:41
Speaker 2: were tons of attractive women at that time in Madison.
26:43
Speaker 2: I don't think that there are any now. For example,
26:46
Speaker 2: there are also tons of heterosexual women in Madison at
26:49
Speaker 2: the time. And remember also my generation, the baby boom,
26:52
Speaker 2: you know, we were you know, it was in that era,
26:57
Speaker 2: all right. I was, I was some friends and we
27:00
Speaker 2: were in one of these But I just I have
27:02
Speaker 2: not gone to a happy hour at a bar in decades,
27:05
Speaker 2: but I did then, and it was one of those
27:07
Speaker 2: places that I could even mention the name of it.
27:11
Speaker 2: I might get this. I think it was the Bombay
27:13
Speaker 2: Bicycle Club in Madison, but they had like a happy
27:15
Speaker 2: hour on Fridays that the place was just mobbed, and
27:18
Speaker 2: it was all people of my age, men and women,
27:21
Speaker 2: and it was it was. It was like a hangout,
27:23
Speaker 2: but not a late night hangout. It was an after
27:24
Speaker 2: It was just what was what it was. I think
27:27
Speaker 2: that was the name of the place. I might be wrong,
27:29
Speaker 2: but I think that was it. And Okay, you're talking
27:37
Speaker 2: to people that it's crowded in there and guys are
27:39
Speaker 2: talking to women and so on. So I'm talking to
27:42
Speaker 2: this woman and she's got big boobs. Well, we I
27:51
Speaker 2: asked throughout. We went on a date not. Nothing happened
27:56
Speaker 2: that night. But I then I said, well, you know,
27:58
Speaker 2: you do the thing of that was in the days
28:00
Speaker 2: which you actually had to get somebody's phone number. You
28:02
Speaker 2: don't remember those days because you've never dated anybody like
28:05
Speaker 2: your first girlfriend, I think was your wife?
28:07
Speaker 4: Was it it?
28:08
Speaker 2: Oh, you have been around while, see you? Well, an
28:10
Speaker 2: I never got married. But but you had to get
28:13
Speaker 2: the phone number. There was no other way to no
28:15
Speaker 2: other way to contact. There was no texting or any
28:18
Speaker 2: of that stuff. So we went out. So I go
28:24
Speaker 2: to pick her up. That's what we did at the time.
28:25
Speaker 2: I don't even think that's what you did. The guy
28:27
Speaker 2: would pick up the woman, right, and she's got this
28:31
Speaker 2: low cut thing on. I remember, I said, she's got
28:36
Speaker 2: so anyway, hours passed her in the date and I must.
28:40
Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard not you know. It's like, first
28:42
Speaker 2: of all, you're on a date with a woman and
28:43
Speaker 2: she's got big moves and she's got a little cut
28:45
Speaker 2: thing on. Well, it's just you know, if you look,
28:48
Speaker 2: you're a latch. On the other hand, but she evidently
28:52
Speaker 2: wants you to look, or the thing wouldn't be low cut, right,
28:55
Speaker 2: I mean, And it's one thing you know, I try
28:58
Speaker 2: to be polite when you're like and regularly, but it's
29:00
Speaker 2: a date, so I'm thinking, there's nothing wrong with me
29:02
Speaker 2: kind of looking because she said we're on a date.
29:05
Speaker 2: So I well, I wasn't peeking. I was looking, and
29:08
Speaker 2: I made a cod I just brought it up. And anyway,
29:13
Speaker 2: this the whole point of this. It gets back to
29:15
Speaker 2: this other subject she said. It just stuck with me.
29:20
Speaker 2: She said, Mark, you use what you have.
29:25
Speaker 4: There.
29:26
Speaker 2: She's thinking, big boos, Why would I hate him? I'm
29:29
Speaker 2: on the make, I'm a single woman. That's what she's thinking.
29:34
Speaker 2: As I recall, she was above average attractive, but I
29:37
Speaker 2: mean her general other thing was not equaled by the
29:40
Speaker 2: great body that she had. Paul said, Sidney Sweeney said
29:44
Speaker 2: the same thing this week, and we like her now
29:47
Speaker 2: because she's Republican. So anyway, nothing ever came, and there's
29:49
Speaker 2: nothing bad about the story or anything other than it's
29:53
Speaker 2: one of the few times a woman really actually I've
29:55
Speaker 2: ever heard end basically her joking around and I brought
29:57
Speaker 2: it up actually came out. And it's the same thing.
30:01
Speaker 2: If a woman's got great legs, she's gonna wear a
30:02
Speaker 2: short skirt and so on. Use what you have. It
30:04
Speaker 2: was just a common sense answer the chief. And this
30:07
Speaker 2: is my point with regard to trade, you use what
30:10
Speaker 2: you have. And the incredible success that Trump has had
30:15
Speaker 2: in terms of international policies. People grumbling about this, that
30:19
Speaker 2: or the other thing, but undeniably the world is a
30:21
Speaker 2: safer and better place than it was when he came
30:23
Speaker 2: in office nine months ago. And it's because he using
30:26
Speaker 2: what he has. And that's this whole key on trade
30:29
Speaker 2: and tariffs and the whole thing and being locked into
30:32
Speaker 2: your well. Milton Friedman said this and this sad or
30:35
Speaker 2: the other thing. We got to use that we have,
30:40
Speaker 2: and in the case of these theraffs and Trump's being
30:43
Speaker 2: able to use it to avoid war, we're using it
30:45
Speaker 2: for good and not for bad. I do run the risk.
30:51
Speaker 2: Nobody is gonna remember all of the high minded points
30:54
Speaker 2: about how Trump has linked trade policy and war prevention
30:57
Speaker 2: and foreign policy into the same thing, because but if
31:00
Speaker 2: they remember the moral of the story about the woman
31:03
Speaker 2: with the well, I don't remember her name. It's been decades.
31:08
Speaker 2: I don't remember the line. I think we only went
31:11
Speaker 2: on the one time. We didn't, you know, just it
31:13
Speaker 2: was just the thing. But I remember that line it
31:15
Speaker 2: was just just so act. You know, every now and
31:18
Speaker 2: then you'll hear something in which it's just like words
31:21
Speaker 2: of wisdom, and everybody should apply that to their own career.
31:25
Speaker 2: You use what you have, not if it's not if
31:28
Speaker 2: you've got it flawned and it's that's a similar thing.
31:30
Speaker 2: But you know, in terms of the skills I have
31:32
Speaker 2: as a talk show host, some things I'm good at.
31:34
Speaker 2: Other things that I'm not good at. The decision that
31:37
Speaker 2: you make about what field to go into when you're
31:38
Speaker 2: a younger person, use what you have. You have musical ability,
31:42
Speaker 2: I don't, so of course you got into a bad
31:44
Speaker 2: I wish I had it. I don't. I've got all
31:47
Speaker 2: sorts of analytical powers and I'm extremely intuitive. You use that,
31:53
Speaker 2: You use what you have got. One other topic I
32:01
Speaker 2: want to cover in this segment. The stock market has
32:05
Speaker 2: gotten hinky this week. I made a comment on Monday's
32:09
Speaker 2: podcast that I want to reaffirm here. I just and
32:11
Speaker 2: I said it last week too. I just think the
32:13
Speaker 2: market is frighteningly overvalued. The thing about anything I say
32:18
Speaker 2: about the stock market is I always throw in going
32:21
Speaker 2: back to that line from Charles Bukowski, filled with doubts
32:23
Speaker 2: I might be wrong.
32:25
Speaker 4: You know.
32:26
Speaker 2: Predicting the stock market's very, very hard, in part because
32:29
Speaker 2: the market tends to do the opposite of what most
32:31
Speaker 2: people think. And there's the reason for that is fairly obvious.
32:34
Speaker 2: If everybody thinks it's going down, that means everybody has
32:36
Speaker 2: already sold, Meaning there's nowhere else for it to go
32:39
Speaker 2: but up, because if you've all sold everything you're gonna
32:42
Speaker 2: have can't go donnity farther. People confuse the stock market
32:47
Speaker 2: with the health of the economy. What the market tends
32:50
Speaker 2: to do is overreact on the upside of the downside.
32:53
Speaker 2: I remember one of I still think it's the first
32:57
Speaker 2: time I ever actually kneeled a higher low in the
33:00
Speaker 2: stock market. And I remember when it was. It was
33:03
Speaker 2: we were on one of my cruises. It was early
33:05
Speaker 2: in Obama, so it was the cruise of two thousand
33:07
Speaker 2: and nine. I guess it would have been March depending
33:09
Speaker 2: I don't remember where we were, but probably early on,
33:12
Speaker 2: and the stock market had fallen apart at the end
33:16
Speaker 2: of the bush here I remember the housing crisis and
33:18
Speaker 2: so on, and there was a positive economic report in
33:25
Speaker 2: which growth had reversed. We had negative growth, negative growth,
33:29
Speaker 2: negative growth, and it's a very good report. And I
33:32
Speaker 2: remember saying to the group, I think the stock market
33:35
Speaker 2: just bottomed out. And it did. The market, as you know,
33:39
Speaker 2: rallied extremely during Obama. A lot of it was simply
33:42
Speaker 2: everything had over sold. The same I didn't say it
33:45
Speaker 2: about housing, but the housing bottomed out as well, and
33:48
Speaker 2: that's when the tremendous explosion in housing occurred. The same thing.
33:51
Speaker 2: I wasn't smart enough to realize that it would apply
33:53
Speaker 2: to housing and everything else, although I did believe that
33:56
Speaker 2: housing was grotesquely undervalued. After the housing market. In other words,
33:59
Speaker 2: what happened and is the market had gone housing, real
34:01
Speaker 2: estate stocks, everything had gone down way more than it
34:04
Speaker 2: needed to after the housing market collapsed. And I think
34:06
Speaker 2: that what's happened with the dot com thing and so on,
34:10
Speaker 2: not dot Com with AI is mirroring what happened with
34:13
Speaker 2: dot Com in ninety eight, ninety nine and zero, in
34:17
Speaker 2: which the stock market collapsed. They called it the dot
34:20
Speaker 2: com bust. And people look back at that and they
34:23
Speaker 2: learned the wrong message. It wasn't the dot com that
34:25
Speaker 2: the Internet wasn't going to be a big thing. It's
34:29
Speaker 2: that the wrong companies got overvalued. We just don't know
34:32
Speaker 2: which companies are going to be the ones that become
34:34
Speaker 2: the next in Nvidia and Microsoft and Alphabet in AI.
34:38
Speaker 2: It might be the ones I just said, or it
34:40
Speaker 2: might be others. But in the meantime, the anticipation that
34:43
Speaker 2: this is going to be huge has just gotten a
34:45
Speaker 2: lot of companies to be overvalued. I think it's dangerous
34:51
Speaker 2: for Trump to crow about the stock mark, because I
34:52
Speaker 2: think the stock market's going to turn down some indicators,
34:55
Speaker 2: gold and bitcoin have really turned downward after roaring ahead
35:00
Speaker 2: the last several weeks. I am not one who believes
35:02
Speaker 2: that we're headed for a period of inflation. I think
35:04
Speaker 2: that the greater threat is that of an economic slow down,
35:08
Speaker 2: and I agree with Trump that the FED needs to ease.
35:10
Speaker 2: I think that the inflation fears are almost non existent.
35:13
Speaker 2: The tariffs haven't caused inflation. The cost of living increase
35:17
Speaker 2: now for social securities two point eight percent, that's based
35:20
Speaker 2: on the CPI. We've gotten that under control. I think
35:23
Speaker 2: that there's going to be a downturn, however, in the
35:25
Speaker 2: stock market. My caveat on that is, and I say
35:27
Speaker 2: this all the time, I am not an expit of
35:29
Speaker 2: the stock market I don't understand technicals and all of
35:31
Speaker 2: that stuff, and I might be wrong. I've thought the
35:35
Speaker 2: stock market's been overvalued for like eight months and it's
35:37
Speaker 2: done nothing but go up. But I do think that
35:41
Speaker 2: it's overvalued, and when it's overvalued, it tends to correct
35:44
Speaker 2: very very badly. And history tells us that those then
35:47
Speaker 2: are spectacular buying opportunities. But I just think there needs
35:50
Speaker 2: to be a shakeout. I look at open AI, which
35:53
Speaker 2: is on the cutting edge. I just wonder if fifteen
35:57
Speaker 2: years from now there's going to be five ten companies
36:00
Speaker 2: that are worth trillions of dollars because of AI. I
36:02
Speaker 2: just don't know that we know which ones they are.
36:06
Speaker 2: And you know, you look back at the dot com thing.
36:08
Speaker 2: The big winners were Amazon, Microsoft because of the cloud, Facebook,
36:20
Speaker 2: some of the others. But look at the companies that
36:22
Speaker 2: were incredibly valuable that went to bust and went zero.
36:25
Speaker 2: Sun Microsystems, Yahoo became a nothing, was just bought up.
36:31
Speaker 2: Broadcast dot Com the company founded by Cuban. He sold
36:34
Speaker 2: it to Yahoo, which then itself got sold. A lot
36:37
Speaker 2: of the early on companies that you think are going
36:39
Speaker 2: to be the future turnout to be zeros because technological
36:42
Speaker 2: advances trump them and make them irrelevant. I think the
36:48
Speaker 2: problem here is this, so much of the NASDAQ one
36:53
Speaker 2: hundred and the S and P five hundred, the top
36:57
Speaker 2: six or seven stocks in the S and P five hundred,
36:59
Speaker 2: I think, make more than half the market cap of
37:01
Speaker 2: the all other four hundred ninety three stocks combined. So
37:05
Speaker 2: if some of those stocks that are high flying correct,
37:09
Speaker 2: all of the market averages go down, even though many
37:11
Speaker 2: other companies in the market may do just fine because
37:13
Speaker 2: they didn't get to the point of being as overvalued
37:17
Speaker 2: as they are. And again I might be wrong about this,
37:20
Speaker 2: but the one thing I can tell you about stocks
37:23
Speaker 2: based on living for a number of decades is stocks
37:26
Speaker 2: go up, and they go down, and whenever people think
37:29
Speaker 2: they can't go down, they're guaranteed to go down. The
37:32
Speaker 2: one thing about this is I'm not the only guy
37:34
Speaker 2: saying this. Zillions of people think the market's going to
37:36
Speaker 2: turn down yet, so maybe it is still months away
37:39
Speaker 2: and we're not at that point because so many people
37:41
Speaker 2: seem to be expecting that that's what's going to occur.
37:45
Speaker 2: You have no opinion of what's going to happen with
37:47
Speaker 2: the stock market, do you don't you think it's overvalued. Well,
37:52
Speaker 2: you say, I bet, I see. I mean, I just remember,
37:55
Speaker 2: as younger, a pe of eighteen or nineteen was considered
37:58
Speaker 2: fair valuation the eighties nineties one hundred, one hundred and ten.
38:02
Speaker 2: Now in part these companies are growing at forty and
38:05
Speaker 2: fifty and sixty percent as well, so it would I
38:10
Speaker 2: just think there's a lot of overvaluation in there, and
38:16
Speaker 2: I think that if there is a correction, it could
38:20
Speaker 2: be pretty sharp. I also wonder if we're looking at
38:24
Speaker 2: two to three to four years of just kind of
38:26
Speaker 2: blog growth in the market, because see the stock market
38:29
Speaker 2: looks ahead that all of this growth has occurred, and
38:31
Speaker 2: it's going to take corporate earnings years to catch up
38:35
Speaker 2: with where some of the valuations are my completely worthless thoughts.
38:40
Speaker 2: And again, if you disagree with me, that's just fine.
38:43
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you what I think here, and it's
38:44
Speaker 2: based on not emotion but my objective view that some
38:48
Speaker 2: of these companies I just think. I mean, I've held
38:52
Speaker 2: in Vidia forever and ever and ever I've sold it
38:54
Speaker 2: to I just it scares me, right, how I this is.
38:56
Speaker 2: You don't want to see a stock go up forever
38:58
Speaker 2: and ever and ever and then go down eighty percent
39:00
Speaker 2: and you blow everything that you you had. And you know,
39:03
Speaker 2: if it does keep going up, okay, you missed output.
39:07
Speaker 2: And the other thing is a lot of this depends
39:09
Speaker 2: on your view of this, your age, and what your
39:11
Speaker 2: time spectrum is. If you're eighty years old, I would
39:13
Speaker 2: not want to have ninety percent of my life savings
39:16
Speaker 2: in tech stocks, because you need all that cash right now.
39:20
Speaker 2: But if you're thirty five, what the hell do you care?
39:22
Speaker 2: It's going to go up and down and over the
39:23
Speaker 2: long hold, et cetera. This is the Mark Belling podcast.
39:30
Speaker 2: This is the Mark Belling Podcast. I found an interesting
39:34
Speaker 2: stat here. This is one of those things that I
39:36
Speaker 2: think we probably sort of knew, but I've never saw
39:39
Speaker 2: it actually put into a number. The median. What's median.
39:45
Speaker 2: There's all these things, the media and the mode, the
39:47
Speaker 2: average and so on. The median that's right in the middle.
39:51
Speaker 2: The median age of first time home buyers in twenty
39:54
Speaker 2: twenty five is age forty. It means there were as
39:59
Speaker 2: many young than forty as there are over than forty.
40:01
Speaker 2: But that's the median age for first time home buyers.
40:06
Speaker 2: In nineteen eighty five, it was twenty nine. There's so
40:12
Speaker 2: much in that number. The people who were twenty nine
40:21
Speaker 2: and nineteen eighty five were baby boomers. Baby Boomers are
40:25
Speaker 2: people who they had their lives on the accelerator pedal
40:29
Speaker 2: all along. When they were in grade school, they wanted
40:31
Speaker 2: to be in high school. When in high school, they
40:33
Speaker 2: wanted to either be free or in college. When they
40:35
Speaker 2: were in college, they wanted to be out of college,
40:36
Speaker 2: and they wanted to be working. The Generation Z's, I think,
40:40
Speaker 2: were closer to the Baby Boomers than they were to
40:43
Speaker 2: the Millennials, the one after them. The Millennials became the
40:45
Speaker 2: generation in which their lies are on the brake pedal.
40:48
Speaker 2: They wanted to slow everything down. They didn't want independence,
40:51
Speaker 2: they wanted to live with mom and dad. They've not
40:55
Speaker 2: wanted to make commitments. And one of the things that
40:58
Speaker 2: that's manifested itself in it was this delay in purchasing
41:03
Speaker 2: a home. The other component of it is almost every
41:09
Speaker 2: baby Boomer that I recall from the twenties, none of
41:11
Speaker 2: us had anybody because we were starting to save it
41:13
Speaker 2: and we weren't making enough then. Whereas you think of
41:16
Speaker 2: the millennials when they were in their twenties, they were
41:18
Speaker 2: all going on trips and posting on Facebook, and they're
41:20
Speaker 2: at life experiences and all of this stuff that they
41:23
Speaker 2: were doing now, so none of them have money for
41:26
Speaker 2: a down payment. The price of housing has gone up
41:28
Speaker 2: because we're in the middle of a housing boom, and
41:30
Speaker 2: so on. But that number, I think explains a lot
41:33
Speaker 2: of things. I do think it will go down. I
41:39
Speaker 2: think that the Generation z's as a group seemed to
41:42
Speaker 2: strike me as a group again, not individually, more of
41:46
Speaker 2: them are interested in settling down and having houses and
41:49
Speaker 2: so on, And that number will go down a bit
41:52
Speaker 2: just because it's gotten so high. I mean, imagine not
41:55
Speaker 2: the average person not having a home until they're owning
41:58
Speaker 2: a house until each four. It seems to be an
42:00
Speaker 2: extremely high number. I'll pull back some, but I don't
42:02
Speaker 2: know that I'll ever go back to the days of
42:04
Speaker 2: the twenty nine and so on with a simple expectation
42:07
Speaker 2: with There's a lot of other things that have changed it.
42:09
Speaker 2: In many cities, property taxation and so on have changed
42:12
Speaker 2: the equation with regard to home ownership and so on.
42:15
Speaker 2: But that number, you can go look at that number
42:18
Speaker 2: and take it in any number of different Paul mentions
42:21
Speaker 2: both of his daughter's own homes and they're in their twenties.
42:24
Speaker 2: Now your family is in real estate. You understand the
42:27
Speaker 2: value of it. So I'm just saying they've thought it
42:29
Speaker 2: through and they understand the advantage of it, and they
42:32
Speaker 2: also understand how you know you can pull this what
42:35
Speaker 2: kind of as you did pull it off two or
42:37
Speaker 2: three times. Buy a house, sell it for more, get
42:39
Speaker 2: a better one, buy itself, sell it for more, and
42:41
Speaker 2: it just it becomes that becomes your savings plan rather
42:44
Speaker 2: than having to set money aside. I mean, the perfect
42:47
Speaker 2: storm is when you buy a house, you have a
42:50
Speaker 2: place to live in and it goes up in value,
42:52
Speaker 2: so you're actually earning money by living somewhere, where as
42:56
Speaker 2: opposed to rent, where you're paying money out and you
42:58
Speaker 2: have no for whatsoever. I like I say, I just
43:03
Speaker 2: think the Millennials were an anomaly generation in which their
43:05
Speaker 2: priorities were different in it's almost entirely the result of
43:09
Speaker 2: baby boomers overly protecting them and mothering them and creating
43:14
Speaker 2: a generation. And I just think it was it's in
43:16
Speaker 2: reaction to the way we baby boomers were. We all
43:18
Speaker 2: wanted to get into the world. The older the baby
43:21
Speaker 2: boomers were sent off to Vietnam. They had no choice
43:23
Speaker 2: but to get into the world. The rest of us
43:25
Speaker 2: just wanted our independence and rock and roll and sex
43:28
Speaker 2: and love and all of that stuff. And perhaps we
43:31
Speaker 2: looked upon our kids, and I didn't have kids, but
43:34
Speaker 2: the baby was looked upon their kids. Is they wanted
43:36
Speaker 2: them to be more dependent on mom and dad. End
43:39
Speaker 2: it just became the opposite thing. Not exactly related, but
43:45
Speaker 2: an interesting little anecdote here. Found this on one of
43:49
Speaker 2: my news aggregated sites. It's from a post on the web. Well,
43:53
Speaker 2: this whole discussion of the Snap Benefits food stamp program
43:57
Speaker 2: being cut off or slowed down because the government shut down.
44:00
Speaker 2: A woman from New Mexico admits to being on Snap
44:02
Speaker 2: benefits for over thirty years. She says that delays our
44:05
Speaker 2: quote detrimental to her life if she doesn't get them.
44:08
Speaker 2: When I heard zero dollars, my chest went into my throat.
44:11
Speaker 2: I have depended on those benefits since the nineteen nineties.
44:17
Speaker 2: That's the problem. The welfare state went awry when we
44:25
Speaker 2: made it long term sustainable. When we created all of
44:32
Speaker 2: these programs, they were supposed to be lifelines for people
44:35
Speaker 2: who had fallen on hard times. If somebody has been
44:39
Speaker 2: on enough government assistance programs, food stamps, and all of
44:43
Speaker 2: the others that are out there that that has been
44:46
Speaker 2: their entire life. By definition, they're too high and we've
44:50
Speaker 2: done them no favors. Now, obviously there are unique circumstances.
44:54
Speaker 2: Some people have a physical disability, others have mental issues,
44:57
Speaker 2: the drugs and so on. But if you're otherwise generally
45:01
Speaker 2: able bodied and you spent your entire life on an
45:03
Speaker 2: assistance program, we haven't done you any favors. By essentially
45:09
Speaker 2: letting you waste your entire life, it never make an
45:13
Speaker 2: effort to really improve what's going on with you. I'm
45:19
Speaker 2: guessing that that number of people who've been on SNAP
45:22
Speaker 2: or food stamps, whatever you want to call it, for
45:24
Speaker 2: three decades is a larger number than many may be
45:30
Speaker 2: aware of. And now this libs of TikTok is actually
45:37
Speaker 2: a conservative site that posts on the internet. So woman
45:40
Speaker 2: that does it, she's very very good, she knows an
45:43
Speaker 2: entire staff. They have a huge following. They monetized it.
45:46
Speaker 2: What they do is they run around and scour era
45:49
Speaker 2: for examples of liberal idiocy, and they found this one.
45:55
Speaker 2: There's a course being taught at the University of Maryland.
45:59
Speaker 2: This is one of those deals that could I used
46:01
Speaker 2: to do up and on the radio show and bring
46:03
Speaker 2: something up, and then I'd ask, am I making this up?
46:05
Speaker 2: Or is it true? And you could always There are
46:09
Speaker 2: so many things that are crazy that you can all
46:11
Speaker 2: now almost make anything up and people would think that
46:13
Speaker 2: it is true. This one, however, is true. Here's the
46:16
Speaker 2: title of the class at the University of Maryland, intro
46:21
Speaker 2: to fat Studies, Fatness, Blackness and their Intersections. You don't
46:30
Speaker 2: think that this was racist, that it's an actual teacher,
46:34
Speaker 2: it's a lefty and the store and the course. It's
46:38
Speaker 2: an actual academic course into I'll quote again, Fatness, Blackness
46:45
Speaker 2: and their Intersections. Now it sounds as though this is
46:47
Speaker 2: a course about why are black people fat? And that
46:50
Speaker 2: seems to be what they're saying. Well, we have the
46:52
Speaker 2: course description. The course description reads like a parody someone
46:57
Speaker 2: would write to mock academia, except it's real and taxpayer
47:01
Speaker 2: funded for liberation as a social justice movement. The teacher
47:08
Speaker 2: of the course is Sidney Lewis, a self described LGBTQ
47:13
Speaker 2: black liberation activist. For those of you who have any
47:19
Speaker 2: doubt that a college education is inappropriate for any number
47:24
Speaker 2: of people, and much, not all, of what is being
47:27
Speaker 2: taught in college is a waste of money. That course
47:30
Speaker 2: is an example. Now people on left keep saying, you
47:32
Speaker 2: cherry picked this out and you find this example. Well,
47:34
Speaker 2: of course for cherry picking out and finding that example,
47:37
Speaker 2: But that example is there, and this is not some
47:39
Speaker 2: excuse the University of Maryland. They're hiring some quack who's
47:43
Speaker 2: going out and teaching crap like this, for passing it
47:46
Speaker 2: off as education. Now in there somewhere, there's actually a
47:50
Speaker 2: legitimate area of inquiry. The health problems that African Americans
47:56
Speaker 2: have because of poor diet and so on. A lot
47:58
Speaker 2: of the things that Kennedy Junior has been pushing with
48:00
Speaker 2: the MAHA movement, that we're eating so much stuff that
48:03
Speaker 2: ends up with us sick and have poor quality of
48:06
Speaker 2: life and so on, they're legitimate areas of study that
48:08
Speaker 2: are in there. But I'm sure that she's not looking
48:10
Speaker 2: into any of those things whatsoever. I'm sure in the
48:12
Speaker 2: end the conclusion of all of this is going to
48:14
Speaker 2: have something to do with racism and the terribly unjust
48:18
Speaker 2: society that we all live in. This is the Markdelling Podcast.
48:26
Speaker 2: This is the Mark Belling Podcast and it's time for
48:29
Speaker 2: the Mark Belling Weekly football preview and some point spread picks,
48:32
Speaker 2: and as always, were joined by Mike Murlett off American
48:35
Speaker 2: Sports Analysts and Madison ASA wins dot com. We're getting
48:40
Speaker 2: into the important part of the college football season and
48:44
Speaker 2: kind of the hard to figure out middle part of
48:47
Speaker 2: the NFL season. Anything you'd like to share about what's
48:50
Speaker 2: going on this weekend at ASA, Mike, and I'll remind
48:54
Speaker 2: you that tough our podcast is airing on Thursday.
48:58
Speaker 3: Yep, same as usual. Check our website ASA wins dot
49:02
Speaker 3: com on Friday for anything we've got going on. Well,
49:06
Speaker 3: if we have a top game in college we'll have
49:07
Speaker 3: it up at that point and weekend stuff. And we're
49:10
Speaker 3: coming off back to back bad weekends. I'll be honest.
49:12
Speaker 3: We had a good season, going weeks have not been good. Yeah,
49:16
Speaker 3: I mean I lost my tick on the air, and
49:19
Speaker 3: it wouldn't have mattered what pick I took, all three
49:21
Speaker 3: of them that I considered lost. So it was one
49:22
Speaker 3: of those weekends. I think we'll bounce back and have
49:24
Speaker 3: a good weekend this weekend.
49:25
Speaker 2: I had the same result with my own picks. I
49:28
Speaker 2: could have gone through my top twenty seven picks, and
49:30
Speaker 2: I think it would have been wrong out all of them. Anyway,
49:32
Speaker 2: It's a very interesting weekend and both college and pro football,
49:35
Speaker 2: and I want to preview three separate games in college football.
49:39
Speaker 2: They're all interesting for different reasons. The first one, this
49:44
Speaker 2: is a fascinating game to me. You have two teams here,
49:48
Speaker 2: one is unbeaten and the other has only lost one game.
49:53
Speaker 2: And I don't think anybody would have talked about them
49:55
Speaker 2: as being national championship contenders or even playoff teams before
49:59
Speaker 2: the beginning of the BYU is playing Texas Tech. The
50:04
Speaker 2: games in the Big twelve. BYU is unbeaten, Texas Tech
50:09
Speaker 2: has only one loss, and you have a curious situation here.
50:12
Speaker 2: We're not early of the season. BYU's played eight games,
50:15
Speaker 2: they're unbeaten, but they're a ten point underdog. And you
50:20
Speaker 2: can't say, well, BYU's unbeaten because they've had a crappy schedule.
50:24
Speaker 2: They beat Utah, and Utah is really good. They've played
50:28
Speaker 2: some pretty good teams. Texas Tech, on the other hand,
50:31
Speaker 2: is probably the most controversial team in college football. It's
50:34
Speaker 2: a team that's just built on massive nil money and
50:37
Speaker 2: it's worked interesting matchup and Texas Tech at home favored
50:41
Speaker 2: by a lot. What do you think about that game?
50:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's a reason that Tech's favored. You
50:45
Speaker 3: mentioned Utah BYU beat Utah at home by three. Got
50:49
Speaker 3: all gained by you. Tech beat Utah by twenty five
50:51
Speaker 3: points at Utah. I mean Tech would win the national championship.
50:56
Speaker 3: Their one loss was at Arizona State by four. Tech
51:00
Speaker 3: was missing their starting quarterback and Arizona State had to
51:04
Speaker 3: score with thirty seconds left to win that game. You
51:07
Speaker 3: saw what played out last week against Kansas HUT.
51:09
Speaker 2: I used my radio pick last week to go against
51:13
Speaker 2: Texas Tech. They were a seven point favorite and his
51:16
Speaker 2: terrible peck. Texas Tech destroyed a pretty good Kansas State team.
51:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Kansas State was peaking. They're playing really well.
51:23
Speaker 3: I agreed one hundred percent with your pick, and I
51:24
Speaker 3: watched the game and there was no comparison between those
51:26
Speaker 3: two teams you mentioned BYU is eight. No, they're coming
51:30
Speaker 3: off a buye, which is a good situation.
51:33
Speaker 2: They have a great coach too.
51:35
Speaker 3: They do have a great coach, they really do, but
51:37
Speaker 3: they haven't been great on the road. I mean to
51:39
Speaker 3: beat Colorado by three, who's bad Colorado.
51:43
Speaker 2: By the way, the Sanders thing, the verdict is.
51:46
Speaker 3: It that it has failed.
51:48
Speaker 2: I mean, Dion Sanders did one thing at Colorado. He
51:51
Speaker 2: brought his son and he brought Travis Hunter there. They're
51:53
Speaker 2: both gone. Colorado's gone and Dion's going to be gone.
51:57
Speaker 2: I don't even know what his buyout it is. It
52:00
Speaker 2: has to be pretty big. But in Colorado, well, you know,
52:03
Speaker 2: they were terrible before he got there. But boy, has
52:05
Speaker 2: that just fallen apart. It's in a side but.
52:07
Speaker 3: Anyway, yeah, no, I agree, it's falling apart fast after one,
52:11
Speaker 3: one or two years. So but yeah, YU struggled down
52:14
Speaker 3: the road this year. Again they beat Arizona and overtime,
52:16
Speaker 3: but they had that they were down ten with like
52:18
Speaker 3: four minutes to go in that game, so they've struggled
52:20
Speaker 3: a little bit on the road. I think Text definitely
52:22
Speaker 3: the better team and that's why that's why they're laying
52:24
Speaker 3: ten in this game. I've had other people asking, how
52:27
Speaker 3: can how can a top ten team that's undefeated beginning
52:30
Speaker 3: ten points and you know, Text the better team here,
52:33
Speaker 3: and that's why they're favored by ten.
52:34
Speaker 2: Let's go to another very interesting game. It's another game
52:38
Speaker 2: involving an unbeaten team. Texas A and M is playing Missouri.
52:44
Speaker 2: Texas A and M largely because they made a great
52:47
Speaker 2: hire with their head coach a few years ago. They're unbeaten.
52:51
Speaker 2: Missouri is six and two, but a good six and two.
52:54
Speaker 2: Their losses were against tough teams. They're both teams that
52:57
Speaker 2: are playing in the SEC. It's hard to imagine in
53:00
Speaker 2: the Texas A and M and Missouri are in the SEC,
53:03
Speaker 2: but they're there. The game is at Missouri. Texas A
53:06
Speaker 2: and M is favored by a touchdown, and I think
53:08
Speaker 2: that that's largely because Missouri's quarterback is hurt and out
53:12
Speaker 2: for the game. I sniff an upset here and I
53:15
Speaker 2: think Missouri can win the game. But here again a
53:19
Speaker 2: larger line than you think. Texas A and M on
53:21
Speaker 2: the road is favored by seven points. What do you think, Mike?
53:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, the tough part to handicap in this game. You
53:27
Speaker 3: talked about it. Missouri's quarterback is out, so and their
53:31
Speaker 3: second string quarterbacks out, so they're not on a third
53:33
Speaker 3: string quarterback.
53:34
Speaker 2: But he did play against Vanderbilt and didn't play bad.
53:37
Speaker 3: He didn't play bad, but he's a true freshman it's
53:39
Speaker 3: his first start.
53:40
Speaker 2: I don't Texas A and M's head coach is a
53:42
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator with a defensive background. I'm sure he relishes that.
53:46
Speaker 2: But Missouri's at home, and Missouri's got a chance for
53:51
Speaker 2: a big upset. And you know, Texas A and M's
53:53
Speaker 2: got a target on their back now every week because
53:55
Speaker 2: they're an unbeaten team, and everybody focuses on the unbeaten team.
54:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Missouri is good. I mean they're good. I
54:03
Speaker 3: just don't know how they're gonna play with this quarterback.
54:05
Speaker 3: We'll see what happens, and might might be the best
54:08
Speaker 3: team in the SEC right now. I mean everyone talks
54:11
Speaker 3: about Georgia and Alabama and those type of teams that
54:13
Speaker 3: you got to remember. A and M beat Notre Dame
54:16
Speaker 3: on the road, good win. They beat LSU by twenty
54:18
Speaker 3: four points on the road. And while LSU isn't great,
54:21
Speaker 3: they're pretty darn good and they killed LSU. You talked
54:24
Speaker 3: about Elko. Their coach came over from Duke. When he
54:27
Speaker 3: took over at Duke the two previous years they were
54:30
Speaker 3: five and eighteen, and he turned to around and head
54:33
Speaker 3: back to back winning season sixteen and seven in two
54:35
Speaker 3: years at Duke. He's really good. Missouri has much better number.
54:39
Speaker 2: It has the better.
54:40
Speaker 3: Numbers in this game, but they played the much weaker schedule.
54:42
Speaker 3: They're the only team in the SEC that's who strengths
54:45
Speaker 3: the schedules outside the top twenty five. It'll be an
54:48
Speaker 3: interesting game. With Missouri's freshman quarterback plays well, they can
54:52
Speaker 3: definitely win that game.
54:54
Speaker 2: Wisconsin comes off the by after finally playing a decent
54:58
Speaker 2: enough game defensive, at least when they played very, very
55:01
Speaker 2: tough against Oregon. The offense has been non existent all season.
55:06
Speaker 2: They come home and again it Wisconsin just plays a
55:08
Speaker 2: strong team every week they play Washington, and while Washington's
55:11
Speaker 2: a strong team, they're actually not as good as the
55:14
Speaker 2: last three teams Wisconsin has played. The line is not
55:19
Speaker 2: calling for a blow out. I believe it's Washington by
55:21
Speaker 2: about eleven or twelve points at Wisconsin. Wisconsin is off
55:26
Speaker 2: to buy a chance to physically recover a little bit.
55:29
Speaker 2: But you know the problem is Wisconsin just can't score.
55:32
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on Washington and Wisconsin.
55:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, first to quick you mentioned Washington's favored by eleven
55:38
Speaker 3: eleven and a half in this game. Just a quick
55:40
Speaker 3: note on that. So Wisconsin has now been a double
55:44
Speaker 3: digit home underdog five times in the last sixteen home games,
55:48
Speaker 3: so that dates back to the middle of the twenty
55:50
Speaker 3: twenty three season. Prior to that, from nineteen ninety seven
55:54
Speaker 3: to the middle of twenty twenty three, they were a
55:56
Speaker 3: home dog of more than ten one time, and they've
55:59
Speaker 3: been five times in the last sixteen home games. So
56:01
Speaker 3: that's that shows how quickly they've fallen fallen off the
56:04
Speaker 3: map unfortunately. But you mentioned Washington's a top twenty five team.
56:09
Speaker 3: They're fringe. I don't think they're top twenty five team.
56:11
Speaker 3: They're not great on the road. They're one in six
56:13
Speaker 3: on the road in the Big Ten since joining last year.
56:16
Speaker 3: Their one win was this year against Maryland by four,
56:19
Speaker 3: and they were losing twenty to zero in that game.
56:22
Speaker 3: The problem is, like you said, Wisconsin, in order to
56:24
Speaker 3: score against Washington, you need to pass. They don't have
56:28
Speaker 3: a good pass defense. Wisconsin hasn't passed for one hundred
56:31
Speaker 3: yards in over a month. I mean, they they're going
56:33
Speaker 3: to start O'Neal in this game. Sounds like and Smith,
56:37
Speaker 3: their freshman's going to get some time too. They need
56:41
Speaker 3: to put up some points. You can't rely on the
56:43
Speaker 3: defense to hold teams to fourteen or lest have a
56:45
Speaker 3: chance to win. Eventually, they're going to break. They need
56:47
Speaker 3: to find a way to get some points, and I
56:49
Speaker 3: don't know if they can do it.
56:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, Washington's had some of their games. They pounded Illinois
56:55
Speaker 2: game that surprised me. They're good at all, by seventeen
56:59
Speaker 2: point two to twenty five, but the week before they
57:01
Speaker 2: put up only seven against Michigan. And as you're right,
57:04
Speaker 2: they're a schizoig team in which they seem to play
57:07
Speaker 2: better at home, I mean each week. And I was
57:10
Speaker 2: certainly wrong last week when I two weeks ago when
57:13
Speaker 2: I thought Oregon would kill Wisconsin each week. I look
57:15
Speaker 2: at the Wisconsin spread and I expect them to be
57:17
Speaker 2: more of an underdog than they are. And I thought
57:20
Speaker 2: the same thing in looking at the line here. On
57:23
Speaker 2: the other hand, Wisconsin's defense is just playing I think,
57:26
Speaker 2: spectacularly well when you consider the pressure that is on
57:30
Speaker 2: them and being on the field constantly because the offense
57:34
Speaker 2: isn't moving the ball. And you know anything about football,
57:38
Speaker 2: if you have a it's like hockey. If you have
57:40
Speaker 2: a great goalie, you have a chance no matter how
57:42
Speaker 2: bad the rest of the team is in football. If
57:44
Speaker 2: your defense is outstanding, I guess you have a chance.
57:46
Speaker 2: Let's turn our attention to the NFL and I only
57:49
Speaker 2: want to discuss one game this week, and that's the
57:51
Speaker 2: Packers and the Eagles, one of the marquee games of
57:53
Speaker 2: the weekend. First, starting before we get to the game itself,
57:57
Speaker 2: the Packers we talked about last week just being a
58:00
Speaker 2: hard team to get a feel for because they've looked
58:02
Speaker 2: both good and bad. I think the Tucker Craft injury
58:07
Speaker 2: is devastating. I think he is the best tight end
58:12
Speaker 2: in the NFL or was this year. Without him, the
58:15
Speaker 2: passing game is I think going to suffer. I think
58:18
Speaker 2: it's a massive loss for the team. In addition to that,
58:22
Speaker 2: the Packers made no trades at the trading deadline this week.
58:25
Speaker 2: They didn't address the cornerback problem, which has gotten even worse.
58:29
Speaker 2: Nate Hobbs, who was having a terrible season, is now
58:31
Speaker 2: out probably for most of the year. He has not
58:34
Speaker 2: an ACL, it's the other one with the MCL he's
58:37
Speaker 2: having surgery on that. The cornerback position's been bad. The
58:42
Speaker 2: Packers made no moves whatsoever. Before we get to the game,
58:46
Speaker 2: ILF MIC They're still in first place, but boy, they
58:48
Speaker 2: don't look like a first place team to be. What
58:50
Speaker 2: are your thoughts on Green Bay before we discuss how
58:52
Speaker 2: they match up against Philadelphia there.
58:57
Speaker 3: As you said last week, they're kind of all over
58:59
Speaker 3: the board. They're a hard team to handicap. They lose
59:03
Speaker 3: to Cleveland, they lose to Caroline as almost a two
59:06
Speaker 3: touchdown favorite. And you know, they beat Detroit early in
59:10
Speaker 3: the season. They beat Washington, which we thought was a
59:12
Speaker 3: really good win, but you know, it's not not great
59:15
Speaker 3: this year. But they beat Pittsburgh on the road, which
59:17
Speaker 3: is hard to do, and they handled them pretty. They're
59:19
Speaker 3: they're all over the board. They're a hard team to handicap.
59:22
Speaker 3: I think Craft is a huge loss as well. I
59:24
Speaker 3: mean it's like losing that'd be like Kansas City losing
59:26
Speaker 3: kelsere who you know, He's.
59:28
Speaker 2: Like losing Kelsey and his prime.
59:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think.
59:32
Speaker 2: Kansas City could handle the loss of Kelsey now, but
59:35
Speaker 2: imagine if they had lost them. If you just a
59:38
Speaker 2: brilliant tight end, most tight ends, eh, doesn't make much
59:42
Speaker 2: of a difference. A brilliant tight end changes an offense.
59:46
Speaker 2: And the thing with Craft is he always got open,
59:49
Speaker 2: and it always run for ten yards after each catch
59:51
Speaker 2: and just extended things and it puts tremendous pressure on
59:54
Speaker 2: the defense. Now it's going to be a test to
59:57
Speaker 2: see whether or not Luke Uscape could a stay healthy
59:59
Speaker 2: and be step up. He has played better, but now
1:00:02
Speaker 2: he's in the featured role as the tight end. But
1:00:05
Speaker 2: it's quite a lost. Paul mentions Fitzpatrick the other tight end,
1:00:08
Speaker 2: But I mean, this is the drop off is enormous. Now,
1:00:11
Speaker 2: let's get to the game between the Packers and the Eagles.
1:00:13
Speaker 2: It's in green Bay, National Game at night. The whole thing.
1:00:17
Speaker 2: The Eagles are another team a lot of teams like
1:00:20
Speaker 2: this in the NFL this year. The Eagles are another
1:00:22
Speaker 2: team that's really hard to get a redot. Green Bay
1:00:25
Speaker 2: is actually favored in the game against Philadelphia, and I
1:00:30
Speaker 2: think that's as much because people don't have a strong
1:00:33
Speaker 2: feel for whether or not the Eagles are a Super
1:00:35
Speaker 2: Bowl type team again or not. What are your thoughts
1:00:39
Speaker 2: in the game.
1:00:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, First of all, if you look at these two teams,
1:00:42
Speaker 3: they're the only two teams in the NFL that have
1:00:44
Speaker 3: been favored in every game.
1:00:46
Speaker 4: Now.
1:00:46
Speaker 3: Green Bay is the only team that's been favored in
1:00:48
Speaker 3: every game. So let's quick look last week, you just
1:00:52
Speaker 3: can't lose that game against Carolina. It's different if you
1:00:55
Speaker 3: get out played at home, and you look at the
1:00:57
Speaker 3: stats and Green Bay didn't punt, they scored thirteen points.
1:01:01
Speaker 3: They outgain Carolina by one yard per play, which is
1:01:05
Speaker 3: pretty dramatic, and you can't lose that game at home.
1:01:08
Speaker 3: You have to find a way to win that game
1:01:09
Speaker 3: at home in this situation. But the good thing for.
1:01:12
Speaker 2: The past one thing I will say, and I made
1:01:14
Speaker 2: a comment last week we're discussing Carolina is always bad,
1:01:17
Speaker 2: and I retract that Carolina's now won four or five games,
1:01:22
Speaker 2: and they're better than I thought that they were. They're
1:01:26
Speaker 2: just everything in the NFC South forever to me has
1:01:29
Speaker 2: seemed terrible, And I guess I need to acknowledge that
1:01:33
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay this year is very good, and Carolina is
1:01:37
Speaker 2: pretty good. Atlanta, who I thought would be very good, stinks,
1:01:42
Speaker 2: and New Orleans might be the worst team in the
1:01:44
Speaker 2: nationally in the National Football League. So I've just misread
1:01:48
Speaker 2: that division. So every now and then a loss will
1:01:51
Speaker 2: come in and it turns out not to be as
1:01:53
Speaker 2: terrible a loss as you think. But You're right, they
1:01:54
Speaker 2: should have won the game, but probably in retrospect they
1:01:57
Speaker 2: should not have been that large of a favorite because
1:02:00
Speaker 2: Maryline has been playing very good football.
1:02:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Carolina is decent, they have a winning record. Now,
1:02:05
Speaker 3: they're not great, But the way Green Bay outplayed them
1:02:08
Speaker 3: on the field as far as yards yards for play,
1:02:11
Speaker 3: didn't punt, you just can't lose that. You gotta find
1:02:13
Speaker 3: a way to miss the field goal to turnovers, you
1:02:15
Speaker 3: can't lose that game. The one situationally, the Packers are
1:02:19
Speaker 3: in a really good spot coming into this week. If
1:02:22
Speaker 3: you NFL teams that are double digit favorites that lose
1:02:25
Speaker 3: outright the following week, if they're back at home, they're
1:02:29
Speaker 3: forty eight and thirty four against the spread. Now if
1:02:31
Speaker 3: they lost at home as a double digit favorite and
1:02:34
Speaker 3: then they're home again next week, now they're twenty six
1:02:37
Speaker 3: and thirteen against the spread, And it makes sense, right,
1:02:39
Speaker 3: a good team, big favorite loses embarrassing, they bounce back
1:02:43
Speaker 3: and play well the next week, as I would expect great,
1:02:46
Speaker 3: But in.
1:02:46
Speaker 2: Those stats you don't contain did you lose your best
1:02:49
Speaker 2: offensive player? And I you know, I actually wonder would
1:02:55
Speaker 2: the loss of Jordan Love be greater than the loss
1:02:57
Speaker 2: of Tucker of Tucker Craft. I just think that has
1:03:00
Speaker 2: been such a difference maker. But maybe I'm overreacting to that,
1:03:03
Speaker 2: But you're right, there's all those things in there that
1:03:05
Speaker 2: screen bounce back in the meantime. Who knows what to
1:03:09
Speaker 2: make of the Eagles. They could be one of those
1:03:10
Speaker 2: teams that kind of kicks it into the second half
1:03:12
Speaker 2: of the season, and they might be stronger. It's just
1:03:16
Speaker 2: I think a really tough game to get a read on.
1:03:18
Speaker 2: Speaking of games that have been tough to get a
1:03:20
Speaker 2: read on, every pick we've been making on this program
1:03:23
Speaker 2: for the last two weeks. We all got skunked two
1:03:26
Speaker 2: weeks ago, and we all got skunk this past week.
1:03:32
Speaker 2: Paul took the Lions to beat the Vikings by nine
1:03:34
Speaker 2: or more, a terrible pick. I agreed with his pick,
1:03:38
Speaker 2: but the way I was wrong about everything last week,
1:03:40
Speaker 2: Minnesota won the game straight up still to me a
1:03:42
Speaker 2: shocking result. Mike said that Dallas and Arizona would score
1:03:47
Speaker 2: more than fifty four and a half points. But you
1:03:49
Speaker 2: talk about confusing teams, what has happened to Dallas? I
1:03:53
Speaker 2: mean the Dallas offense a few weeks ago looked unstoppable,
1:03:57
Speaker 2: and they couldn't do a dog one thing against Arizona.
1:04:01
Speaker 2: So Mike's pick, let's see, Yeah, you don't have an
1:04:07
Speaker 2: Ellen there, but that's right. And I took Kansas State
1:04:10
Speaker 2: a seven and a half point underdog against Texas Tech
1:04:14
Speaker 2: and they got killed by twenty three points. So we're
1:04:16
Speaker 2: all wrong and just put that in the all in
1:04:19
Speaker 2: the rearview mirror. I got a dilemma this week. And
1:04:22
Speaker 2: then there's actually six games that I like, but every
1:04:25
Speaker 2: one of them has one problem. So I have to
1:04:27
Speaker 2: go and grab one of those games despite the fact
1:04:29
Speaker 2: that I've got a problem in each pick. They're all good,
1:04:32
Speaker 2: except they both have one drawback on them. Anyway, Paul,
1:04:36
Speaker 2: who's having an atrocious season, I was having a good
1:04:39
Speaker 2: one in pill I drove right into a brick wall
1:04:42
Speaker 2: two weeks ago and have not recovered from it. Paul
1:04:44
Speaker 2: needs a win. Where are we going here? The Bear
1:04:50
Speaker 2: Giants game? Now you have a interesting game there. The
1:04:54
Speaker 2: Bears suddenly another team. The Bears started the season with
1:04:57
Speaker 2: a pretty good defense and the offense was a working
1:04:59
Speaker 2: fry Chris, the Bears defense is falling apart, and the
1:05:02
Speaker 2: Bears offenses now they are what the Cowboys were a
1:05:05
Speaker 2: few weeks ago. Three and a half. The game is
1:05:07
Speaker 2: in Chicago. The Bears are favored by the infernal number
1:05:10
Speaker 2: of three and a half. He's going to take the Bears,
1:05:14
Speaker 2: even though he doesn't like the half. Now, tell us
1:05:16
Speaker 2: why you're taking the Bears?
1:05:20
Speaker 4: You know?
1:05:23
Speaker 2: Did I see the end of the Bears? E There's
1:05:26
Speaker 2: so many things that I saw this week. I don't
1:05:28
Speaker 2: remember it. Ag Oh that was the forty seven to
1:05:30
Speaker 2: forty two game. Yeah, yes, I did little momentum after
1:05:36
Speaker 2: the Caleb Williams touchdown last week when Paul made his pick,
1:05:45
Speaker 2: I said I was going to pick that game too,
1:05:48
Speaker 2: but I'm not going to because when we go together,
1:05:51
Speaker 2: it's just doomed. That's one of the games that I
1:05:54
Speaker 2: was considering. The only hang up I have I agree
1:05:57
Speaker 2: with Paul entirely. The only hang up on that game
1:05:59
Speaker 2: is I hate three and a half. I hate three
1:06:02
Speaker 2: and a half. I hate three and a half. I
1:06:04
Speaker 2: did take a three and a half game earlier this
1:06:07
Speaker 2: year and it did win. But I think Paul's right.
1:06:09
Speaker 2: I think the Bears are a now team and the
1:06:12
Speaker 2: Giants surprising of the Giants defense is not very good.
1:06:15
Speaker 2: What do you think about the game, Mike, Yeah.
1:06:18
Speaker 3: The only thing I don't like about the Bears in
1:06:20
Speaker 3: their record, I'll be honest with you. They're five and three,
1:06:23
Speaker 3: but their last five wins, all their five wins, they're
1:06:28
Speaker 3: plus fourteen in turnover margin in those games. Yeah, when
1:06:32
Speaker 3: they had four wins in a row, they were creating
1:06:35
Speaker 3: like four turnovers every game, and you win in the
1:06:38
Speaker 3: NFL when you do that. The one time they didn't,
1:06:40
Speaker 3: then they turn around and lose. And then last week
1:06:43
Speaker 3: against the bad Cincinnati team, they were plus three and
1:06:46
Speaker 3: turnovers again and barely won the game. So I don't
1:06:48
Speaker 3: know what to make of Chicago. I don't like the Giants,
1:06:50
Speaker 3: but I don't know what to make of Chicago, to
1:06:52
Speaker 3: be honest with you.
1:06:53
Speaker 2: And Cincinnati is just I mean, Flacco didn't do anything
1:06:56
Speaker 2: for Cleveland's they did. Cincinnati had no offense at all.
1:07:00
Speaker 2: Flackel goes over there and they put up a zillion points.
1:07:02
Speaker 2: But the Bengals defense. Yeah, you just you wonder if
1:07:07
Speaker 2: we're having a hard time right now. I'm just sizing
1:07:09
Speaker 2: up a lot of things in the NFL, and it's
1:07:11
Speaker 2: just hard to make heads or tails of them. Okay,
1:07:13
Speaker 2: time to get a pick from Mike. Where are we going.
1:07:15
Speaker 3: Let's look at first in Colin, you told me, all right,
1:07:19
Speaker 3: the Texas Tech BYU game you said was ten.
1:07:21
Speaker 2: You said, I want to confirm that it's ten. That's
1:07:23
Speaker 2: what I had in my notes.
1:07:26
Speaker 3: Texas Tech and you would number one sixty five, one
1:07:31
Speaker 3: sixty six of.
1:07:33
Speaker 2: You said that, all right? Ten, Yes, Texas Tech at
1:07:38
Speaker 2: home is favored by ten.
1:07:40
Speaker 3: Okay, let's look in NFL the Sunday night game, Pittsburgh Chargers.
1:07:48
Speaker 2: Steelers and the Chargers. I believe that's three. Yes, the
1:07:54
Speaker 2: Chargers at home are favored by three over Pittsburgh.
1:07:58
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna take Texas Tech.
1:08:02
Speaker 2: You're gonna take Texas Tech. You're gonna well, that's that's
1:08:06
Speaker 2: an out there pick. You're gonna go and lay ten
1:08:08
Speaker 2: points against the team that is unbeaten. Texas Tech does
1:08:11
Speaker 2: look like a steamroller. I grant you that, and we
1:08:15
Speaker 2: discussed several of the reasons for that, so I don't
1:08:17
Speaker 2: think that we need to add anymore. It's time to
1:08:19
Speaker 2: get a pick from me. And as I said, that,
1:08:22
Speaker 2: just a problem with every I really really really wanted
1:08:26
Speaker 2: to take Texas over Jacksonville, but c J. Stroud, the
1:08:29
Speaker 2: Texans quarterback, as a concussion, he's in the protocol, probably
1:08:33
Speaker 2: won't play. I still think they're gonna win, but they're
1:08:36
Speaker 2: laying a point and a half, so I can't pull
1:08:37
Speaker 2: the trigger on that. I mentioned the problem that I
1:08:40
Speaker 2: have with the Beers pick of the three and a
1:08:42
Speaker 2: half and some of the factors that Mike mentioned, and
1:08:47
Speaker 2: I also kind of leaned to Philadelphia getting two and
1:08:49
Speaker 2: a half against green Bay. But my prob but my
1:08:52
Speaker 2: problem there is all the things that Mike mentioned. Green
1:08:55
Speaker 2: Bay is a team that has gone back and forth,
1:08:59
Speaker 2: and after a poor performance, they tend to step up.
1:09:02
Speaker 2: So I have to reject all of those games. We
1:09:07
Speaker 2: were talking about. One of the games of Missouri. I
1:09:09
Speaker 2: like Missouri. I think they have a very very good
1:09:11
Speaker 2: chance against Texas A and M all these teams from
1:09:15
Speaker 2: Texas that aren't the University of Texas, but there's the
1:09:18
Speaker 2: backup quarterback, so that that's not a perfect situation. I
1:09:23
Speaker 2: see a game that's out there this weekend. Mike talks
1:09:26
Speaker 2: a lot about trap games, and I've come to think
1:09:29
Speaker 2: that years ago people did not give enough credence to
1:09:35
Speaker 2: there's a letdown situation. Now. I think everybody says every
1:09:39
Speaker 2: game is a trap game, and it's an overused thing.
1:09:41
Speaker 2: But there's a trap game on the schedule this week.
1:09:44
Speaker 2: That's the I think the biggest trap game that in
1:09:46
Speaker 2: the history of college at least this year, in the
1:09:48
Speaker 2: entire college football season. Which game do you think that is, Mike,
1:09:51
Speaker 2: there's a game in which a team is just screaming
1:09:53
Speaker 2: to let down. You'll get it. You get these always.
1:10:00
Speaker 3: Uhh, I don't know.
1:10:03
Speaker 2: Yukon and Virginia. I mean Yukon is they're an independent team,
1:10:11
Speaker 2: so no game is a conference game.
1:10:13
Speaker 3: And Yukon Duke you mean Ukon Duke.
1:10:15
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I said Virginia Duke last week be Clemson
1:10:18
Speaker 2: by one point in a thrilling just a thrilling game.
1:10:23
Speaker 2: Now they play a non conference game and they have Virginia.
1:10:25
Speaker 2: That's Virginia on my mind, Virginia, who's eight and one
1:10:28
Speaker 2: next week, so they have to go play a non
1:10:29
Speaker 2: conference game against Connecticut. Jim Mora Junior is the coach
1:10:33
Speaker 2: of Connecticut, and he took just a terrible program there
1:10:35
Speaker 2: and he's winning, getting ten points. My problem is Duke's
1:10:40
Speaker 2: ten points better than Connecticut. So I can't make that pick,
1:10:43
Speaker 2: so I've rejected all of these, and here's where I'm going.
1:10:48
Speaker 2: There's a very weird team called Oregon State. They're in
1:10:52
Speaker 2: a conference, but there's only two teams in the conference.
1:10:55
Speaker 2: They were orphaned when the PAC twelve fell apart. So
1:10:59
Speaker 2: the only other team in the PAC twelve, which is
1:11:01
Speaker 2: now the PAC two, is Washington State. Washington State and
1:11:04
Speaker 2: Oregon State are kind of looking for a conference to
1:11:07
Speaker 2: attach themselves to. They's talk that they're going to end
1:11:09
Speaker 2: up in the Mountain West and so on, so they're
1:11:13
Speaker 2: really an independent, even though they're technically not listed as
1:11:17
Speaker 2: it independent. They fired the coach earlier this season after
1:11:20
Speaker 2: they started to seven, and they started to seven because
1:11:23
Speaker 2: everybody's transferry out of the program because you know, they're
1:11:26
Speaker 2: not at a conference, they're not in anything. They fired
1:11:29
Speaker 2: the coach, but they're not. Coming off of two straight
1:11:31
Speaker 2: wins and they beat They all have a rival in
1:11:34
Speaker 2: Washington State, the other team in the Pack two. They
1:11:36
Speaker 2: beat them last week, and I love this. They're one
1:11:39
Speaker 2: and seven and the fans storm the field when they
1:11:40
Speaker 2: got their second win. This week, they're laying twenty and
1:11:45
Speaker 2: a half points at home. Two and seven. They're laying
1:11:48
Speaker 2: twenty and a half and that's because they're playing Sam Houston,
1:11:51
Speaker 2: who is a contender for the worst team in college football.
1:11:54
Speaker 2: There's a real battle here. It's either Sam Houston or
1:11:57
Speaker 2: Massachusetts in fact. But he's gonna believe me on this.
1:12:01
Speaker 2: If the schedule had worked out, I was this week
1:12:04
Speaker 2: going to take go against Massachusetts and our pick. They
1:12:07
Speaker 2: played last night and they lost by thirty four points
1:12:10
Speaker 2: to Accrid. Accord's not very good, but Massachusetts is atrocious,
1:12:14
Speaker 2: So unfortunately I couldn't do that twenty and a half points.
1:12:17
Speaker 2: Sam Houston is coached by Phil Longo, who destroyed the
1:12:19
Speaker 2: Wisconsin offense during the couple of years he was the
1:12:22
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. Here, they're terrible this year. They haven't won
1:12:25
Speaker 2: a game. They're losing but twenty five and thirty points
1:12:28
Speaker 2: every week. The one downside for Oregon State is it
1:12:30
Speaker 2: is a letdown after they beat Washington State and the
1:12:32
Speaker 2: fans storm the field. But Oregon State's terrible. Their offense
1:12:36
Speaker 2: isn't very good and their defense is atrocious. They haven't
1:12:38
Speaker 2: played anybody and they're ower to seven. The only team
1:12:41
Speaker 2: that they played is Texas, which has shown no offense
1:12:43
Speaker 2: all you're in Texas put up fifty five on them.
1:12:46
Speaker 2: I think Oregon State's program, the kids that are there,
1:12:49
Speaker 2: you know, beaten down. There's all sorts of reasons to
1:12:52
Speaker 2: be depressed. They're not at a conference, the coach got fired,
1:12:55
Speaker 2: but they' feeling good about themselves. They won two games.
1:12:57
Speaker 2: Now they're at home and they get to play a
1:12:59
Speaker 2: team in which they destroy him. And I'm gonna lay
1:13:01
Speaker 2: twenty and a half points and take Oregon State over
1:13:03
Speaker 2: Sam Houston In. Phil Longo's another Phil Longo's another candidate
1:13:07
Speaker 2: to be one and done and be fired at the
1:13:09
Speaker 2: end of the year. I mean, he screwed up Wisconsin
1:13:11
Speaker 2: and now he's screwed up Sam Houston In. Just an
1:13:14
Speaker 2: overrated coach. What do you think about my pick, Mike.
1:13:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's a game that's on my radar
1:13:19
Speaker 3: this week as well. Wash It Oregon State and one
1:13:22
Speaker 3: the one fear. I mean, you're you're laying twenty with
1:13:25
Speaker 3: a team that averages nineteen points a game. So and
1:13:28
Speaker 3: granted they're playing Sam Houston State as a horrible defense.
1:13:31
Speaker 3: In fact, they give up I believe forty points per game.
1:13:34
Speaker 3: I think they're last in the country in points allowed
1:13:37
Speaker 3: and they get creamed every game long travel.
1:13:40
Speaker 2: I don't it's their second road game in a row
1:13:42
Speaker 2: two for a team that's yeah, stinks and it is
1:13:45
Speaker 2: probably they're overmatched and they've quit. Sam Houston last week
1:13:48
Speaker 2: played Louisiana Tech. Louisiana Tech Okay, Louisiana Tech beat him
1:13:53
Speaker 2: fifty five to fourteen, and that was Sam Houston's game
1:13:56
Speaker 2: off the by the week before that, Sam Houston played UTEP,
1:14:00
Speaker 2: team that I thought was going to be better this
1:14:01
Speaker 2: year than they are. UTEP's offense is awful. They put
1:14:05
Speaker 2: up thirty five points against them. I mean, you know,
1:14:09
Speaker 2: as I mentioned, they lost fifty five to nothing to
1:14:11
Speaker 2: Texas when they played there, and they're getting worse every week,
1:14:14
Speaker 2: probably because they're an overmatch team and beaten down. In
1:14:17
Speaker 2: the meantime, Oregon State's played some pretty good teams. They
1:14:20
Speaker 2: played Oregon, they played Texas Tech, and they actually gave
1:14:23
Speaker 2: Texas Tech. You know, they came within thirty against them,
1:14:26
Speaker 2: which that's more than most people most teams are able
1:14:29
Speaker 2: to do. I just think it's a chance for them
1:14:32
Speaker 2: to put up forty nine points on a team that's
1:14:35
Speaker 2: only going to score ten against them, and as I
1:14:37
Speaker 2: say there's a problem with every one of the picks,
1:14:39
Speaker 2: but that's where I go. So recapping everybody's picks. Let's see,
1:14:42
Speaker 2: I don't have anything. Oh, Paul brought it in for me. No,
1:14:46
Speaker 2: this is coming in right now. I'd see. Paul says,
1:14:50
Speaker 2: take the Bears. I don't disagree with Paul. Take the
1:14:52
Speaker 2: Bears to beat the Giants by four or more. Mike says,
1:14:54
Speaker 2: Texas Tech will beat BYU my more than ten, and
1:14:57
Speaker 2: I'm taking Oregon State to beat Sam Houston. Paul wrote
1:15:01
Speaker 2: down twenty. I need a win, so I should go
1:15:03
Speaker 2: with it's actually twenty and a half. Twenty and a half.
1:15:05
Speaker 2: Watch them now be twenty and over Sam Houston. Anyway,
1:15:09
Speaker 2: if you want to see more about what ASA has
1:15:11
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1:15:15
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