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How to Win Real Housewives of Rhode Island with Chad Kultgen & Lizzy Pace from GOR PART 2 · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: This is the almost famous podcast been here joined with
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  Speaker 2: Lauren and Chad and Lizzie from the Game of Roses,
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  Speaker 2: also the authors of How to Win the Bachelor. We
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  Speaker 2: have been discussing the Real Housewives of Rhode Island. Go
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  Speaker 2: back and listen to the first part. If you haven't,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna pick up the second part right now. You
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  Speaker 2: two would be the experts of this. And this is
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  Speaker 2: kind of off the cuff. I'm curious. Would it be
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  Speaker 2: a good career move for Kelsey to go on the
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  Speaker 2: Bachelor right now? Or is the Bachelor below where she's
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  Speaker 2: at with housewives?
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  Speaker 3: God, I mean this opens a whole can of worms,
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  Speaker 3: doesn't it.
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  Speaker 4: But to be the Bachelorette I think would be worth it.
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  Speaker 4: But I wouldn't go.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah going into I mean, look, you see what's been
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  Speaker 3: happening over the past, even like last three or four years.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody who goes into The Bachelor gets any kind of
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  Speaker 3: a following coming out of it. And now you've got
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  Speaker 3: a whole season that got scuttled, and all those dudes
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  Speaker 3: who were on Taylor Frankie Paul's season are like trying
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  Speaker 3: to make their social media and tease maybe they're going
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  Speaker 3: to release the season. There's no way they're releasing that season.
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  Speaker 3: Their entire effort in terms of that is wasted.
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  Speaker 4: Are they going to release it?
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  Speaker 2: I think they released the season.
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  Speaker 5: How they will?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they care. I think they I think
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  Speaker 2: it's the question of I don't know if they have
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  Speaker 2: an option. I think it gets released very soon.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, what with no fanfare, They're not going to
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  Speaker 3: just Tulu.
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  Speaker 2: They just put it out there on Hulu and say,
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  Speaker 2: oh my god, yeah it's it's actually it kind of
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  Speaker 2: to me and I always get in trouble with The
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  Speaker 2: Bachelor now, but I'm confused. I'm confused on this whole
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  Speaker 2: promotion of the contestants because it feels very like thirsty
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  Speaker 2: to me, very I think it turns off most of
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  Speaker 2: the viewers that would tune in because they're like, this
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  Speaker 2: is these guys are acting like celebrities. And here's the
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  Speaker 2: truth of the matter, if we're honest, very few people
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  Speaker 2: who actually even become a lead of this show become
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  Speaker 2: celebrities or that well known for that long and contestant specifically,
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  Speaker 2: we have a few. Ashley is a great example of this.
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  Speaker 2: Some people right rise way to the top. But I
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  Speaker 2: think it's very weird to see a bunch of people
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  Speaker 2: who season has not been released act like they are
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  Speaker 2: celebrities right now. And I don't think it's a I
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  Speaker 2: don't think it's their fault. I think the show is
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  Speaker 2: almost like pushing this to make us go, we have
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  Speaker 2: to watch these cool guys who dance in tiktoks on TV.
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  Speaker 3: Well, one of them is going to be your next Bachelor,
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's why they're doing it. That season
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  Speaker 3: is going to start shooting in October and it's going
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  Speaker 3: to air in January at least from everything that I've heard,
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  Speaker 3: and so they have to get some of those guys
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  Speaker 3: out in front of us in some capacity or it's
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  Speaker 3: going to be like, here's your next Bachelor and we're
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  Speaker 3: all like, who is this guy? You know it's I
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  Speaker 3: don't know who it's going to be. From the kind
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  Speaker 3: of like top four guys, they're all kind of in
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  Speaker 3: contention at this point, and I think even the ring
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  Speaker 3: winner is in contention at this point. We'll see, but
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  Speaker 3: I just don't know, like that franchise is in such disarray.
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  Speaker 3: I feel so bad for Scott Teddy, the guy who's
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  Speaker 3: the showrunner now, because he had just this huge opportunity
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  Speaker 3: and then, through no fault of his own, just through circumstance, Really,
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  Speaker 3: the whole season gets scuttled. I'm very curious to see
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  Speaker 3: what happens to the franchise moving forward. They obviously need
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  Speaker 3: a big reset. But yeah, I don't I don't know
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  Speaker 3: why they're allowing these guys to come out. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: part of it, too, I think, is maybe to like
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  Speaker 3: silence them a little bit. They don't want these guys
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  Speaker 3: who feel like they got over to be going on
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  Speaker 3: podcasts and tell us what really.
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  Speaker 5: Stopped on TikTok if they don't let them do that.
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  Speaker 2: Nice good point.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw two of the guys are on vacation
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  Speaker 5: with two well known Bachelorette contestants.
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  Speaker 4: Did you see this Maria Rachel with Shane and someone else?
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  Speaker 4: And I wonder if that's like orchestrated, Like how did
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  Speaker 4: this happen? I want to say, he's on another show
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  Speaker 4: with Maria the Mafia.
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  Speaker 3: Oh they're your mo the mob.
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  Speaker 4: Media person just it's funny that those videos are so
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  Speaker 4: much more cringe when the season hasn't come out yet
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  Speaker 4: even though the guys always released group videos after the season,
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  Speaker 4: but people are like, oh no, we want you to
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  Speaker 4: be influencers after and they only want to choose the
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  Speaker 4: people who are there for the right reasons to be influencers.
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  Speaker 4: A thing Love Island is going through too, where it's
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  Speaker 4: like they got criticized for having too many influencers last
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  Speaker 4: season and this season they're fewer followers, but it's like
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  Speaker 4: they're just pre influencers. They're all all going to the
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  Speaker 4: same place.
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  Speaker 2: Let's run through some of the characters from the Housewives.
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  Speaker 2: I think for you, guys do so many things terrifically,
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  Speaker 2: but one of the things you do is really understand
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  Speaker 2: the character play of a reality show. Joellen is a
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  Speaker 2: character on this show that is mysterious to I believe,
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  Speaker 2: Lauren and I because we don't know if her intentions
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  Speaker 2: are bad or good. We also don't know actually how
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  Speaker 2: friendly she is with any of these girls, Like I
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  Speaker 2: haven't yet been convinced that she's that close with any
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  Speaker 2: of them or.
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  Speaker 4: Her best friend.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, so where take me through your read on Joellane
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  Speaker 6: because she is an anomaly this season for us here.
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  Speaker 4: I think she's definitely a reality star as whoever said
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  Speaker 4: in that last toast, you have the charisma. But I
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  Speaker 4: felt so confused by the fight between her and Liz.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, I really have no idea what is
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  Speaker 4: going on here.
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  Speaker 3: In my estimation, she's kind of like the disturber. She
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  Speaker 3: understands at least the construction of a reality show very
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  Speaker 3: well that like a, if I have a certain narrative
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  Speaker 3: or in this case, like certain specific information like with
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  Speaker 3: the rule of video, I'm going to use that to
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  Speaker 3: basically center myself in whatever the big a story is.
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  Speaker 3: And I think, in my opinion, that's kind of how
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  Speaker 3: she's playing the entire game. It's like, how do I
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  Speaker 3: insert myself? And so when a fight presents itself like
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  Speaker 3: with Liz, she's not going to back down from that.
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  Speaker 3: Let's give the can fight people want to see. I think, like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what her real relationship is to any
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  Speaker 3: of these players, but I think she's phenomenal at h
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  Speaker 3: with her understanding of like what is required in an
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  Speaker 3: ensemble reality performance to always be in the big scenes.
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  Speaker 4: Like that fight scene that they all did at the
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  Speaker 4: dinner table at the Sparkly party was so amazing. I
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  Speaker 4: couldn't Sparky. What's Sparkley part the Studio sixties? Oh right,
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  Speaker 4: the studio fifty four at our studio fifty four where
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  Speaker 4: they they sat in like a I don't know, some
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  Speaker 4: fancy room that had like y thing of armor. I
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  Speaker 4: loved that that fight and you have the spouses like
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  Speaker 4: getting involved, and I was obsessed with Joe Joellen's husband
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  Speaker 4: in that scene. It was like the most like I'm
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  Speaker 4: threatening you don't with my wife's situation, and I thought
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  Speaker 4: that was quite attractive, especially sitting next to Torpie Brian
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  Speaker 4: get him Brian, Brian Like, I'm like, what is gonna
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  Speaker 4: come out of his mouth next? Every single sentence, I'm
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  Speaker 4: like what in the like when he was like, I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if this is middle aged or or the
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  Speaker 4: pills I'm on.
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  Speaker 5: Or hormones or tsone or the GLP one or the.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so so bad.
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  Speaker 5: But I also would be so depressed if they didn't
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  Speaker 5: show up for season two because he is the best
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  Speaker 5: player honestly, because nothing has ever come out of his
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  Speaker 5: mouth that I agree with.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's interesting, I would say in terms
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  Speaker 3: of the and stuff, my favorite moment from the entire
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  Speaker 3: season was everything that centered around slam pig, slam pig,
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  Speaker 3: the use of the term, the sash, the painting of
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  Speaker 3: slam pig. They really, like, I think understood in the
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  Speaker 3: moment that it was said that okay, we can get
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  Speaker 3: some mileage out of this, and all the players seemed to,
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  Speaker 3: or at least a handful of them were on board,
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  Speaker 3: not even just the ones affected by it. There was
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  Speaker 3: you know, wasn't it Joellen who made the slam pig painting.
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  Speaker 4: I love the slam big painting. Joe also, like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: she's smart because she she shot that scene with her
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  Speaker 4: mom too, so she's gotten her like tragic backstory.
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  Speaker 3: For PTCs dark.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, really brutal and involving the sister. And there's hints
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  Speaker 4: that like overlap with the sister.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think she's a great.
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  Speaker 4: Hints of sibling stuff and hints of the mob behind
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  Speaker 4: like every scene the mob.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. I've kind of forgot about the whole
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  Speaker 2: thing with like the jokes about the sister and her
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  Speaker 2: husband and them hanging out at one point in high
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  Speaker 2: school or whenever that did exist. All right, listen up
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  Speaker 2: the Jonas Brothers here.
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  Speaker 6: Our podcast is called Hey Jonas, but here.
• 9:21
  Speaker 3: Since everyone has a podcast, we wanted to as well,
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  Speaker 3: and we've had some incredible guests so far, and now
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  Speaker 3: our good friend Nile Horn is joining the show.
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  Speaker 2: I was going, boys, hey, Nile, that's.
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  Speaker 6: The same thing with slow Lands.
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  Speaker 2: Slowlands is not about anything else.
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  Speaker 1: Really, is it?
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  Speaker 4: You know?
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  Speaker 6: Or our tastes so good company about food?
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  Speaker 2: You do the same, Nick, but some of the stuff
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  Speaker 2: that you've done, you too, Joe.
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: Drop what you're doing and listen to Heye Jonas on
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  Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you listen to
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  Speaker 1: your podcasts.
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  Speaker 2: There's also the character I want to move on to
• 9:54
  Speaker 2: next is Alisha. Alisha is to me very endearing in
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  Speaker 2: the sweet ways, and I think I would pull my
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  Speaker 2: hair out if I sat at a dinner table long
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  Speaker 2: enough with like her, because I'd be like, you don't
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  Speaker 2: see the world the same way I think most people
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  Speaker 2: see the world. And that's great because you live in
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  Speaker 2: this beautiful innocence. That's fantastic. I just like, there was
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  Speaker 2: so many moments I was like snap out of it
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  Speaker 2: or like look around. But the topic all like season
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  Speaker 2: was the home that she was homeless. I think the
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  Speaker 2: proper term nowadays is she was without a home as
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  Speaker 2: a child. But this kind of flows through the season
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  Speaker 2: and it obviously causes some big fights through the Liz
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  Speaker 2: and Joelle in scenario. What's your take on this? And
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  Speaker 2: I guess Alicia in general, does she know what she's saying,
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  Speaker 2: does she mean what she's saying? Or is she just
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  Speaker 2: so good at this by being herself that were endeared
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  Speaker 2: to her forever.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think you could write like the stuff that
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  Speaker 4: Alicia is saying, like every there's so many gems out
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  Speaker 4: of her mouth. I completely underestimated her. In episode one,
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  Speaker 4: I was like, who is that? And then by the
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  Speaker 4: end I was like, Oh, she's up there for my favorites,
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  Speaker 4: Like like.
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  Speaker 5: The toast for the whole summer is bitches love a
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  Speaker 5: summer and people, and that is transcending like people who
• 11:25
  Speaker 5: don't even watch Bravo. It's just bitches love a summer.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm so happy for her. But yeah, going back
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  Speaker 5: to the homelessess thing, I want to know if from
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  Speaker 5: like a game perspective from you guys, is what Liz
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  Speaker 5: was doing just part of the game, trying to save
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  Speaker 5: her ass, and like should she have saved her ass
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  Speaker 5: if she was a good player you're.
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  Speaker 3: Talking about in terms of Alicia saying that she was homeless. Correct, Sorry,
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  Speaker 3: that's how I hear homeless.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I think that is.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's so hard to like point who is kind
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  Speaker 3: of like overplaying certain like that is a PTC what
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  Speaker 3: we call a personal tragedy card, and there were many
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  Speaker 3: good ones played this season that was hers And I
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  Speaker 3: think if you're competing with like a Joellen, and you
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  Speaker 3: know what that PTC is gonna be, you have to
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  Speaker 3: elevate yours. So if maybe you don't really have one
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  Speaker 3: that's on that level, but you're gonna say you do,
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  Speaker 3: and oh, I was homeless, And then of course Liz
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  Speaker 3: is gonna be like, no, you weren't you. You can't
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  Speaker 3: play that PTC. Basically she's denying the play of that
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  Speaker 3: saying that is not even accurate. All that said, I
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  Speaker 3: think what you get out of Alicia is somebody who
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  Speaker 3: is able to elevate regular situations and regular play styles
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  Speaker 3: to the next level. Like in the end the proposal,
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  Speaker 3: it's like, by comparison, that's the tamest looking story in
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  Speaker 3: the entire season. You've got a guy getting arrested for
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  Speaker 3: putting a tracking device on his wife's car. You've got
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  Speaker 3: everybody's cheating on everybody with everybody you know, and hers
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  Speaker 3: is I want you to propose to me again. And
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  Speaker 3: it works. He makes them the hard thing and he
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  Speaker 3: does the proposal, and you like feel so good about
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  Speaker 3: that moment, and it's like, oh, she finally got her proposal.
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  Speaker 3: And she even makes a joke like, oh, in ten
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  Speaker 3: more years, I'll get my name on the house or whatever,
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  Speaker 3: you know, something like that. She just has there's something
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  Speaker 3: about her and some reality players have this, actually has this.
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  Speaker 3: They are just like watchable whatever they're doing, You're fascinated,
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  Speaker 3: you're riveted by it. And she has that ability to
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  Speaker 3: just kind of elevate seemingly normal into like, whoa, this
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  Speaker 3: is a crazy moment and that's a it's it's rare.
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  Speaker 5: Do you think that Alicia's gonna actually get married or
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  Speaker 5: is that going to be a storyline first season two?
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  Speaker 5: Do you think they're gonna get married?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that wedding will be one of the places we
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  Speaker 3: see some of the biggest fights.
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  Speaker 5: I assume there'll be a cracker table.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean I love the cracker thing because
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  Speaker 4: that is like you're already setting up what your spahn
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  Speaker 4: con can be. She can do crackers, she can do
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  Speaker 4: fudgicles or yes, yes, yes, constantly like setting up spaw
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  Speaker 4: con opportunities for yourself. Did you so PTC?
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  Speaker 5: So Ashley didn't have a PTC and so she just
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  Speaker 5: kind of said, I have nothing, but I'm scared of
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  Speaker 5: my family's gonna die. Did you think that was the
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  Speaker 5: right move? Because I was like Ashley when I watched it,
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  Speaker 5: I was so embarrassed for her, and I was like,
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  Speaker 5: you could have just made up. You could have said
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  Speaker 5: your OCD was worse than it actually is, or you
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  Speaker 5: know you need something, why do you say nothing?
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  Speaker 4: But I guess was that the right play?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so. And that was We've seen other
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  Speaker 3: players in Bachelor have that same thing. We saw Kelly
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  Speaker 3: Flanagan had that in season twenty four Bachelor. I don't
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  Speaker 3: have a SOB story. She said, well, make one up
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  Speaker 3: when you're you're sitting at that table, and basically like that,
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  Speaker 3: The entire event was what we would call a circle
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  Speaker 3: of pain, where each player is required to play at PTC.
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  Speaker 3: You don't necessarily have to do it, but she could
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  Speaker 3: have done this. This is what I would have done
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  Speaker 3: if I was her, I would have said, look, I
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  Speaker 3: come from another reality franchise. I was on reality TV
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  Speaker 3: before any of you guys, and it put in me
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  Speaker 3: a distrust of anybody that I'm in a situation like
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  Speaker 3: this with. And so coming into this situation, I didn't
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  Speaker 3: know what to expect, but I knew I couldn't trust
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  Speaker 3: any of you. But now I've been here for a
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  Speaker 3: while and I've gotten to know you, and you're literally
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  Speaker 3: my best friends. You're the closest people to me in
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  Speaker 3: my life. So that my PTC is like, you've helped
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  Speaker 3: me overcome my distrust of being in a situation like this,
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  Speaker 3: and I feel like I can tell you anything something.
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  Speaker 4: I would like to go one step further and say
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  Speaker 4: that The Bachelor exploited her virginity and like she was
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  Speaker 4: in this unrequited thing with Jared for so long. They
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  Speaker 4: gave her a really weird edit in Bachelor and Paradise
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  Speaker 4: that one season when they came back to the boom
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  Speaker 4: Boom room. Yeah, she has real ones that she could use.
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  Speaker 4: But I mean, you're on the spot, you're playing against
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  Speaker 4: these I know mammoth players like that. I love the
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  Speaker 4: compeition of those two yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of people in the comments, like on
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  Speaker 5: TikTok and things are saying like no, I get it,
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  Speaker 5: I get it. I understand what she's saying, like someone's
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  Speaker 5: gonna die, it's gonna be awful one day, blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, the virginity thing is definitely something she could
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  Speaker 5: have said. Also, she's never feel sexy because of that
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  Speaker 5: because people always treated her like this just throwaway virgin,
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  Speaker 5: which also like in turn made her very like not
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  Speaker 5: confident in some ways, like you have a lot of
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  Speaker 5: things you could work with there. But either way, what
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  Speaker 5: we got from that scene was the mask, and we
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  Speaker 5: were pleased.
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  Speaker 3: I'll take it crazy because I was like, oh, what
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  Speaker 3: kind of mask is actually gonna have?
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  Speaker 5: And then I saw that one.
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  Speaker 3: I was like the hardcore that's terrible.
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  Speaker 2: It's brilliant. I loved every second of it. It was
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  Speaker 2: so good because she was looking so pretty. You know,
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  Speaker 2: she spent hours on her makeup. She had this beautiful
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  Speaker 2: dress and they give her a full face mask because
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  Speaker 2: there's wonderful television to watch.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I loved it.
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  Speaker 4: Wait whose team are you guys on with Kelsey Rosie Rosa.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I'm a little biased there.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think there were moments where I
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: switched back and forth overall, especially like episodes one through
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: what five, I was very much team Rosie. I was like,
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Kelsey is just bowling this girl up and down, And
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: then the fight at the house made me switch. I
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: thought Rosie went a little too far. Yeah, I think
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: there was a lot of anger over a joke that
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: was not funny, but it made it. It was enough
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: of a joke wer you're like, Okay, whatever she's trying,
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: she's trying to connect here. And then the rest of
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: the season, I'm honestly, it was pretty tame. Outside of
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Audrey's coffee shop. They kind of came back together and
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: it wasn't a story to remember. The interesting side of
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Real Housewives to me is that these storylines exist outside
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: of the show now, and that will exist in season two.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: But the big controversies came with Kelsey going on interviews
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: and still talking about things and you know, criticizing Ashley,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: criticizing Rosie, criticizing some of these people, and then you're like, Okay,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: I cannot wait to watch where this comes back up
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: in season two With The Bachelor, it's kind of into
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: the chapter done, everybody moves on. You might follow the
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: couple for a couple of months that they're together and
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: then you forget about them. But with this, you're like
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: still following it, waiting for it to air on our televisions,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: And that's different for me.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the beauty of these housewives and kind of
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: shows where you get to have the same characters coming
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: back season after season, see how it develops in the
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: off season on the podcast and whatever. But I mean,
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: like you're saying, Kelsey's going on these podcasts basically shit
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: talking everybody. She's actively accepting the heel role. She's like,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: hate me, please hate me. I'm gonna be the villain
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: of Real Housewives Rhode Island. And that's a great position
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: to hold because you need that person in every season.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and to be in to hold that position gladly
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: in every season, and she seems like she's gonna do it.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: The final person I wanted to touch on with the
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: two of you is our beloved Ashley. We are very
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: biased here, so it was hard for us this season.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: I you know, Lauren's her sister, but even from my
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: own viewing experience, I don't want to say I'm proud
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: of her. That seems like the meaning in some way.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I would have done worse on
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: the show. I just watched her and I found I was.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I felt a gladness in my heart that she's a
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: friend of mine. I also enjoyed watching her on television
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: because she was authentic to herself and so many of
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: these moments. She carried herself in the Housewives franchise in
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: a way that I agree was relatable and different enough
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: to make I think the average viewer from the Midwest,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: which is where I'm from, go, I get that girl,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: like I understand her, and I like watching her like
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: try to function in this crazy environment of you know,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: intermingling marriages and friendships that are splitting apart and coming together.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: I like watching it so as I will give her
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: an a plus in the season. I want to hear
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: from the two of you, though, And you can be
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: mean to Ashley. She's fine, she can she.
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: Can obviously handle it.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but tell us what you thought with the
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: expectations you had on how Ashley did on the Real
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Housewives of Rhode Island.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: I had high expectations, but again I was worried after
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: that trailer, but I thought she blew it out of
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: the water. I thought it was incredible. I was following
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: closely the Audrey storyline. I couldn't wait for Chad to
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: get to the episode where they get under the table.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: I think they should like put a little thing on
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: that table, like the black or put the characters in
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: the seats or something. It's a good idea dash memorialize it.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: I like, yeah, I see what you're saying about proud,
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: But as a fan of Ashley, like, I was like,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: she just did amazing. It was incredible, and yeah, I
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: can't wait to see the next season. I think she
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: could delve more into the the Jared storyline because that is,
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: like the unrequited love thing is very relatable and I
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: feel like, I don't know there's something there.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it is relatable.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: She wants, she doesn't want, she feels bad having like
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: think like the whole storyline be essentially about Jared, and
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: she's like, tak it about me, like I can talk
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: about myself. I can make myself over that Jared not
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: sign up for this for what it's worth.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'll piggyback on what Lizzie is saying I
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: loved watching her. I thought she did fantastic. This is
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: the first time we've seen a big Bachelor player go
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: into the Housewives franchise ever, and this like she's breaking
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: ground here, this is trailblazing. I was blown away by it.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: I was obviously curious to see what is she going
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: to do in this other context that isn't a Bachelor
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: World thing? And I thought she did it so well
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: to be both relatable but also to be able to
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: hang with some of these like clearly heavyweight kind of
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: housewivesy and style players. She was able to do that.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: I think for her second season, like if she wants
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: to make it about her for my money, if I'm
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Ashley and I'm Jared and I'm sitting down right now
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: as I know they must be thinking about what are
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: we going to do in season two, Ashley should come
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: into Audrey's and say, look, I'm going to turn this
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: place into a money making machine. Here's what we're going
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: to do. And she should kind of take the reins,
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: let him do the nuts and bolts like making the coffees,
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: make go into the cost code of Biles, whatever, but
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: she should come in with a creative plan about like
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: we're going to give this one big shot and if
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: this doesn't work, we close it down. So you've got
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: a built in ticking clock. By the end of the season,
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: we're going to see if she did it or not.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: She can have a couple of big events that all
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: the other housewives have to come to to like really
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: launch and make that like a huge story about like
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: it's it's gonna be a big life decision they're gonna
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: have to make at the end of this if it
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: doesn't work. But if it does, Holy Audrey's Is finally
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: achieves the success that they wanted it to and Jared
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: can can take some time off to go golfing or whatever.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: I love it. You are now the executive producer of
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: the show. Okay, that was so good.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I'm available.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: I love that. I'm gonna tell Ashley that later. I
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: know that they're pitching actually do other things with Audrey's
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: that are a little more scandalous that we're not really
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: pleased with. I don't think I can say it right now.
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: I don't think I can say it, but I hope
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: that it's your way.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love to see how an Ashley and
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Jared coffee shop that serves generous coffee becomes scandalous.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well we'll see. I'm so confused.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Can everybody start going Yeah? Can ever we just start
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: going to Audrey so we don't have to deal with
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: any weird changes. They are a big client on line
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: and I need them to.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: Stick around strip club to me, but that can't be.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: It will still be delicious, that's all that matters.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Goodness, gracious, Hey.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: I mean maybe they want to collab with Liz sell
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: some of their Yeah and a pause, do a CBD martini.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah or something.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Hey, the two of you are great and thanks for
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: jumping on here. Thanks for breaking down the real Housewives
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: of Rhode Island. The work that you do is fantastic
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: on the game of Roses. And then also, if you're intrigued,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: at some point you might want to change the name
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: of this to like how to Win a reality show?
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: But how to Win the Bachelor? I think still works
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: for now, but that's just strategic maybe, but how to
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Win the Bachelor is also a fantastic greed. Lizzie and Chad,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: thanks for jumping on. We I hope we can do
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: this again.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: You can't wait to hear about sexy Audreys.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: Hang on, yeah, stop recording, He'll get it.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Hey, we'll see you later, everybody.
• 25:16
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• 25:20
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• 25:24
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