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Full Show Podcast: 10 September 2026 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
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  Speaker 1: Early Edition with Spark for Business. Technology that keeps business moving.
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  Speaker 2: Newstalk ZB.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, six after five. Great to have your company
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  Speaker 3: coming up on the show. David Seymour on red tape
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  Speaker 3: this morning. US oil's up over $ 100 a barrel again.
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  Speaker 3: House prices here, $ 20. 29 before we'll get them back to
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  Speaker 3: $ 20. 21 prices according to ASB. Plus we'll do AI and
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  Speaker 3: data centres.
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  Speaker 2: The Agenda.
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  Speaker 3: It is Thursday, the 2th of September. Great to have
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  Speaker 3: your company. Nigel Farage, well, the cops are involved now.
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  Speaker 3: Channel 4 over there has released footage. They sent in
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  Speaker 3: an actor posing as an American businessman. This American businessman
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  Speaker 3: goes and meets with Nigel Farage. Remember, this is the
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  Speaker 3: meeting where Farage says, I wasn't listening to any of that.
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  Speaker 2: I knew you. Yeah, very good, very good.
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  Speaker 1: OK, I.
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  Speaker 4: Run an American family office and I haven't been able
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  Speaker 4: to donate.
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  Speaker 5: Directly up to this point. But I was thrilled to
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  Speaker 5: be able to pick up the tab for the polls
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  Speaker 5: that you had commissioned.
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  Speaker 6: That was great.
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  Speaker 2: And the third poll.
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  Speaker 1: It was.
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  Speaker 7: Boom.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: When I saw the third.
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  Speaker 5: Poll on the front page of the Times, I thought, well,
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  Speaker 5: all right, these are people who know how to spend
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  Speaker 5: their money.
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  Speaker 3: Doesn't sound great, does it? Anyway, reform says nothing to
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  Speaker 3: see here.
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  Speaker 8: The worst case scenario here is jail time. That is
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  Speaker 8: extremely unusual, a custodial sentence for breaking electoral reform. But
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  Speaker 8: this is a big deal. It is a significant update
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  Speaker 8: that the Met Police have launched a criminal investigation after
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  Speaker 8: those two men, Dan Dukes and James Orr, senior officials
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  Speaker 8: in reform, had to step down over that footage.
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  Speaker 3: If it's an actor and not a real thing, can
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  Speaker 3: you be arrested for that?
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  Speaker 9: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, Andy Burnham, he's defending his government's sanctions on West
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  Speaker 3: Bank settlements in the House.
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  Speaker 7: Britain has to stand for something. Britain has to show leadership.
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  Speaker 7: Britain has to stand for fairness against injustice, where people
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  Speaker 7: are being bullied out of their homes, intimidated. We will
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  Speaker 7: always stand with the underdog.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go to the U.S. Trump's banning Canadian motorbike spirits
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  Speaker 3: and milk.
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  Speaker 10: The bans on the alcohol and as well as motorcycles
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  Speaker 10: are going to kick in in about three weeks time.
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  Speaker 10: Trump administration has for quite some time talked about how
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  Speaker 10: tariffs are here to stay. Donald Trump truly believes that
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  Speaker 10: tariffs are a way to reshore jobs, bring them to
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  Speaker 10: the United States.
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  Speaker 3: Finally, you know, the jurors in the Lindsay Clancy trial,
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  Speaker 3: this is the mother that they reckon killed her kids.
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  Speaker 3: It was a mistrial. Anyway, three of the jurors have
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  Speaker 3: spoken out saying there was one who just wouldn't budge.
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  Speaker 7: He was very arrogant.
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  Speaker 3: He really did not take anything that anybody said.
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  Speaker 2: He admitted he had reasonable doubt. And I started filling
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  Speaker 2: out the forms. I was so excited.
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  Speaker 7: And then he said, but I'm still not going to
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  Speaker 7: say that she's not guilty by reason of insanity.
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  Speaker 6: We read to him on numerous occasions the definition of
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  Speaker 6: reasonable doubt.
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  Speaker 3: But he had the hardest time getting off.
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  Speaker 10: The fact that Lindsay viciously killed her children.
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  Speaker 2: Hear it first.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge on early edition with Spark for Business, technology
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  Speaker 1: that keeps business moving.
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  Speaker 3: Newstalk ZB. That's a jury of your peers, isn't it?
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  Speaker 3: Nine minutes after five, 9292 is the number to text.
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to talking about this ASB report that's
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  Speaker 3: just come out. I mean, it's no great revelation that
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  Speaker 3: house prices aren't really going anywhere in a hurry unless
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  Speaker 3: you're in parts of the South Island, unless you're in
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  Speaker 3: Queenstown Lakes, for example. But the interesting part about it
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  Speaker 3: is just how long it's going to take before we
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  Speaker 3: get back to the highs that we saw in 2021.
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  Speaker 3: So that won't happen. And it's only in nominal terms
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  Speaker 3: anyway until 2029. So 10 years, well, almost 10 years
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  Speaker 3: between drinks. And it's only in nominal terms. So much
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  Speaker 3: longer before you actually get once your inflation adjusts, once
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  Speaker 3: you get back to where house prices were. This is obviously,
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  Speaker 3: for a lot of people, a good thing because house
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  Speaker 3: prices aren't taking off and going nuts. And the reasons
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  Speaker 3: are well canvassed, and we will talk about them later
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  Speaker 3: in the program. But they reckon 3.5% for 2027 and
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  Speaker 3: then around 5% per year thereafter. And then, yeah, 2029
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  Speaker 3: is your date. So we'll talk about that a little
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  Speaker 3: later in the program. Also this morning, Very interesting looking
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  Speaker 3: at what happened in Nainai Community Centre in Lower Hutt
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  Speaker 3: last night. That's a joke. It's not. But 120 people
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  Speaker 3: turned up to hear. This is Chris Hipkins' first public
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  Speaker 3: meeting of the campaign. And 120 people and a pet
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  Speaker 3: cat turned up, I'm told, last night. All went off
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  Speaker 3: without a hitch. Mainly, you know, they pack these things
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  Speaker 3: with their own supporters. National does the same. Pack it
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  Speaker 3: with their own supporters. And then you don't look so bad.
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  Speaker 3: But it's just interesting, the strategies. And you have to
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  Speaker 3: give Simeon Brown probably a bit of credit for getting
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  Speaker 3: Luxon out there early. And he's pretty much finished his
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  Speaker 3: round of public meetings now already. But it's created the
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  Speaker 3: impression that he is able to go out there and
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  Speaker 3: talk to real people. He is able to engage with
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  Speaker 3: the public, which is what you need to do. And
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  Speaker 3: then he's basically finished. So he's gone out there. He's
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  Speaker 3: created this impression and then he's done. He won't have
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  Speaker 3: any more planned public meetings henceforth. And there's nine weeks
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  Speaker 3: to go on the campaign, which means he can focus on,
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  Speaker 3: you know, going to cut some ribbons and do a
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  Speaker 3: few press conferences. And this is where the sort of
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  Speaker 3: the muckrakers and the disgruntled folk like to come out
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  Speaker 3: of the woodwork. And this is where Hipkins is starting
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  Speaker 3: his public meetings. So you've probably got to... You've probably
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  Speaker 3: done a smart thing there, I would say, Simeon Brown,
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  Speaker 3: 12 minutes after five. Ryan Bridge on Newstalk ZB. Great
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  Speaker 3: to have your company. We're back after this.
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  Speaker 1: The early edition Paul's Show podcast on iHeartRadio, powered by
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  Speaker 1: Newstalk ZB. Before the news breaks, hear it first. Ryan
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  Speaker 1: Bridge on early edition with Spark for Business, technology that
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  Speaker 1: keeps business moving.
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  Speaker 2: News Talk ZB.
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  Speaker 3: 5.14, interesting, Peter Thiel has a founder's fund and it's
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  Speaker 3: put money into a company called Covenant. Covenant is an
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  Speaker 3: American defence start-up. And they are building new long-range cruise missiles.
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  Speaker 3: They reckon a fraction of the cost of the Tomahawks
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  Speaker 3: that the American military is currently using. We've spoken before
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  Speaker 3: about the fact that they're running a little low. Their
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  Speaker 3: stockpiles are running a little low. So this is a
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  Speaker 3: startup defense company. They've just opened a big factory in Dallas.
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  Speaker 3: They've got a supply factory in Germany. They've got a
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  Speaker 3: factory in Israel. And they reckon they're going to make
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  Speaker 3: 1,000 of these things in their first year, scaling up
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  Speaker 3: to 5,000 of them. Very cheap and go a long way.
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  Speaker 3: 14 after 5. Labour's AI policy. They want an office
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  Speaker 3: of AI. They want a new online safety regulator. They
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  Speaker 3: want new copyright rules. And they want data centres to
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  Speaker 3: wash their own face.
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  Speaker 11: We'll invest in AI's benefits because there are real benefits.
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  Speaker 11: But we will also focus on protecting Kiwis from the
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  Speaker 11: potential harm that AI can cause.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Graeme Muller, Chief Executive of Tech New Zealand with
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  Speaker 3: us this morning. Hey, Graeme.
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  Speaker 12: Hi there, Graeme.
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  Speaker 3: What do you reckon?
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  Speaker 12: I think it's fantastic. I expect probably a lot of
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  Speaker 12: parties will have some sort of stance on AI at
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  Speaker 12: this election. We've been calling for it for about the
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  Speaker 12: last two elections. This is a technology that is more
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  Speaker 12: impactful than any we've seen, even electricity. And finally, I
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  Speaker 12: think it's good to see people taking it seriously.
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  Speaker 3: What is an office of AI in New Zealand going
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  Speaker 3: to do? This is a global phenomenon. It's got a
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  Speaker 3: life of its own. What can you actually do to
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  Speaker 3: regulate it?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think.
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  Speaker 12: Parts will need to be regulated for sure. But I
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  Speaker 12: think the main thing is that it's such a powerful
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  Speaker 12: technology that that we need to have basically a view
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  Speaker 12: on what's happening across government and in society and making
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  Speaker 12: sure that we're, as I say in their press release,
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  Speaker 12: getting the best benefits while managing any of the risks.
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  Speaker 12: At the moment, it's all very ad hoc. It's a
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  Speaker 12: little bit like a lot of people listening to this,
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  Speaker 12: they probably would have had a bit of a play
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  Speaker 12: with Claude or OpenAI, ChatGPT or something like that. And
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  Speaker 12: their kids probably have and their grandparents probably have and
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  Speaker 12: their and then mate down the road probably has but
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  Speaker 12: uh it's it's just random and ad hoc and you're
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  Speaker 12: not getting the best benefits out of it and you're
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  Speaker 12: also probably exposing yourself to vulnerabilities with your data and
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  Speaker 12: things like that by not having a structured approach to
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  Speaker 12: it so.
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  Speaker 3: People are going on there and putting in their information
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  Speaker 3: asking questions here's my bank balance or whatever and it's
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  Speaker 3: taking up that it's sucking up the information i.
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  Speaker 12: Mean it could be it's just that everyone's Excited by the,
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  Speaker 12: when you start playing with these tools, they're powerful and
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  Speaker 12: they're amazing and people get excited by it. And we've
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  Speaker 12: yet to face the potential risks. Like we're seeing it
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  Speaker 12: with other parts of AI already through, as I say,
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  Speaker 12: we need an online safety regulator because we're seeing AI
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  Speaker 12: so embedded in our society already. We're using it a lot,
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  Speaker 12: but we're probably not thinking through the implications in a
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  Speaker 12: lot of places. It's a great, powerful tool and it
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  Speaker 12: will give us a lot of benefits. And it does
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  Speaker 12: need a strong view. And it's not, this is not,
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  Speaker 12: this is not new. I mean, for many, many years now,
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  Speaker 12: other countries have had ministers of AI and officers of AI.
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  Speaker 12: So this is a really good policy.
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  Speaker 3: I agree. Yes, they have. But is anything any better there?
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  Speaker 3: You know, I mean, it's just another thing. It's like
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  Speaker 3: another office. It's another official. It's how you can't stop it.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, like a really good parallel is if you cast
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  Speaker 12: your mind back, I'm not sure how old you were
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  Speaker 12: when the mobile phone arrived. but everyone freaked out about
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  Speaker 12: the mobile phone. We didn't want people using them in
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  Speaker 12: places people were going to get cancer. There was a
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  Speaker 12: lot of people going, oh, we can't have the mobile phone.
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  Speaker 12: But they eventually coordinated with industry and made some pragmatic
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  Speaker 12: rules around things like, let's not put cell towers in
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  Speaker 12: the middle of schools. Now we've reached an age where
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  Speaker 12: people are really complaining if the cell tower isn't close
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  Speaker 12: enough and they haven't got 5G and fast online streaming.
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  Speaker 12: So it moves on, but at the time when it's
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  Speaker 12: all happening, you don't want it to be happening in
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  Speaker 12: a Roger Random way. You want some sort of structure
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  Speaker 12: and plan, coordination between different agencies, different industry bodies, etc.,
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  Speaker 12: so that things work in a way that's best for
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  Speaker 12: New Zealand.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Graeme, good to have you on the show.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Graeme Muller, Chief Executive, Tech New Zealand. Time
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  Speaker 3: is 18 after five. I do remember when the cell
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  Speaker 3: phones came out and they said if you put the
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  Speaker 3: cell phone in your pocket, then it freezes your sperm.
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  Speaker 3: You won't be able to have children. Remember that? I
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  Speaker 3: think people still, I don't know, I don't know that
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  Speaker 3: it's not true. You know, I haven't actually checked. I
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  Speaker 3: know sperm count is going down. That's a recorded scientific fact.
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  Speaker 3: How do we know it's not the cell phones? And
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  Speaker 3: we need an office to tell us that, apparently. 19
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  Speaker 3: minutes after five, very quickly, was reading about Anthropic this morning.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they've got clawed, the AI model. And the
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  Speaker 3: American government is blaming the Chinese. for basically doing what
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  Speaker 3: apprentices do to their bosses, which is just ask them
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  Speaker 3: lots of questions. So the Chinese younger bots go and
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  Speaker 3: ask the American older bots, how do you do this?
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  Speaker 3: Why are you doing this? Learn from them and then
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  Speaker 3: make themselves smarter in the process. They're saying this is theft.
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  Speaker 3: 19 after 5, Newstalk ZB.
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  Speaker 1: News and views you trust to start your day. It's
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  Speaker 1: Early Edition with Ryan Bridge and Spark for Business. Technology
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  Speaker 1: that keeps business moving.
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  Speaker 2: Newstalk ZB.
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  Speaker 3: 5.22, you know there's been lots of protests against migrants
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  Speaker 3: in the UK. Well, in Portsmouth, they went and surrounded
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  Speaker 3: a hotel because they got word that there were some
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  Speaker 3: asylum seekers inside the hotel. This has happened last night.
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  Speaker 3: Inside the hotel, in fact, was Pakistan's under-19 cricket team
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  Speaker 3: on tour.
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  Speaker 2: Whoops.
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  Speaker 3: More news on housing asb's picking house prices to finally
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  Speaker 3: hit their 2021 peak this is a nominal terms only
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  Speaker 3: but not until 2029 prices are still 15 below that
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  Speaker 3: high they're expecting to increase three and a half percent
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  Speaker 3: next year rawdon christie real estate agent with us this
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  Speaker 3: morning rawdon good morning hello how you doing right very
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  Speaker 3: well thank you good to have you on the show
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  Speaker 3: what's it like selling real estate at the moment.
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  Speaker 9: Rawdon We've had quite a quiet August. There's no doubt
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  Speaker 9: about it. We saw a lot of old stock in August.
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  Speaker 9: September's been quite quiet, but there's a lot of activity,
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  Speaker 9: we think, around the corner. We're talking to a lot
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  Speaker 9: of clients at the moment who are lining up and
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  Speaker 9: are making that. Do we jump before the election? Do
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  Speaker 9: we wait until after the election? Look, I appreciate the
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  Speaker 9: fact that prices have been down a little bit. I
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  Speaker 9: reckon there's more activity coming than the ASB report shows.
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  Speaker 9: I think we could have quite a strong start to 2027,
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  Speaker 9: judging by the sheer numbers of people we're talking to
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  Speaker 9: at the moment. And that's partly because people have just
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  Speaker 9: accepted the fact we're in a stable market. Not much
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  Speaker 9: is really changing. There's no point really waiting. So we
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  Speaker 9: may as well move on. And bloody good news for
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  Speaker 9: first home buyers.
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  Speaker 3: It certainly is, especially at that end of the market.
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  Speaker 3: What about the other end of the market? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: what houses are selling? Do you have to be renovated?
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  Speaker 3: Do you have to look good?
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  Speaker 5: 100%.
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  Speaker 9: Well, I mean, the houses which are selling quite easily
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  Speaker 9: and for good money are very well presented. So if
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  Speaker 9: you're thinking about it. You know, do the work, do
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  Speaker 9: the hard work. People are trying to steal bargains out there.
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  Speaker 9: Buyers have got.
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  Speaker 6: A heap of choice.
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  Speaker 9: So if you really produce a shiny product where people
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  Speaker 9: know they do not have to spend any money once
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  Speaker 9: they've purchased, then you're likely to get a good sale
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  Speaker 9: fairly quickly for a good price. But apart from the
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  Speaker 9: first time buyers, we've seen quite a lot of downsizers
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  Speaker 9: who've now decided, hey, and it's probably true that prices
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  Speaker 9: are not going to move a great deal next year.
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  Speaker 9: And so they're thinking, well, there's no point hanging on
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  Speaker 9: all the costs associated with larger homes. So we're going
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  Speaker 9: to downsize now and just bite the bullet. That side
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  Speaker 9: of the market is beginning to move a great deal more.
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  Speaker 9: You've got other indications. I mean, building consents in July
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  Speaker 9: were up 21 percent on the year before. Stats New
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  Speaker 9: Zealand reported residential construction. The Q2 is up 10 percent
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  Speaker 9: from last year. Those are all good signs. that there's
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  Speaker 9: a simmering in the market, which I think will see
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  Speaker 9: a reasonable start to 2027. But it's going to be stable.
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  Speaker 9: There are no massive gains to be made. It is
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  Speaker 9: going to be stable. You know, I look at it
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  Speaker 9: right now after three or four tough years and think,
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  Speaker 9: if we're going to get back to 2021 by 2029,
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  Speaker 9: which is only now, what, a year and a half away, well,
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  Speaker 9: that's not a bad thing.
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  Speaker 5: I'd take that.
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  Speaker 12: That's what we've been through.
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  Speaker 3: Rawdon Christie, real estate agent. It is 25 after five,
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  Speaker 3: Newstalk ZB. We'll talk about the idea of another new
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  Speaker 3: ministry and another new minister next. Newstalk ZB 527. Do
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  Speaker 3: we really need a minister of booze? Back in the
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  Speaker 3: good old days, they were all ministers of booze. The
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  Speaker 3: whole cabinet, especially this one.
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  Speaker 6: Doesn't give my opponents much time to run up to
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  Speaker 6: a election, does it?
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  Speaker 3: But the idea that we need a minister responsible for alcohol,
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  Speaker 3: while well-intentioned, like all the 81-odd portfolios that previous reviews
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  Speaker 3: and recommendations have created, is not necessary. This is one
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  Speaker 3: of the recommendations from the Hospitality Sector Regulatory Review. This
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  Speaker 3: review was done by the Ministry for Regulation. Remember, that
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  Speaker 3: ministry was created to cut red tape and make government
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  Speaker 3: less complicated. It's recommended creating a new agency and a
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  Speaker 3: new ministerial responsibility. It was announced by the Minister for Regulation,
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  Speaker 3: David Seymour, whose role was also set up to cut
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  Speaker 3: red tape. Can you see the problem here? There are
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  Speaker 3: no doubt good reasons to make rules simpler and get
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  Speaker 3: rid of regulations, but creating a new minister and ministry
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  Speaker 3: who then does a review and recommends creating another agency
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  Speaker 3: and another ministerial job just sounds backwards. It's like bacteria,
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  Speaker 3: bureaucratic bacteria. They multiply and spread everywhere. One minute, it's
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  Speaker 3: a single cell. Next minute, it's split into two. Next minute,
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  Speaker 3: there's four. It goes on and on and on. We
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  Speaker 3: need fewer jobs in Wellington, surely not more. Remember, Ireland, Norway, Singapore, Finland,
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  Speaker 3: similar size to us, they've got fewer than 20 ministerial roles.
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  Speaker 3: The UK, Canada, the US, Korea, a lot larger than us,
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  Speaker 3: still fewer than 30. The saving grace here is that
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: no decisions on this review have yet been made, so
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: why not just cut the red tape and send the
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: pollies for a beer at Bellamy's.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Ryan Bridge.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: 29 minutes after five. Ryan, how many years has New
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Zealand had to prepare for AI? Another knee-jerk reaction from
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: this dumb, don't-think-ahead government. It was actually a Labour policy, Steve. Oh,
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Steve says it doesn't matter which party, they're all idiots.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: OK.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Great to have your company, Steve. We're going to the
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: US next here on Newstalk ZB.
• 17:54
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• 18:05
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• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Newstalk ZB.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: It's 24 away from 6 here on Newstalk ZB. Coming up,
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: oil up over $ 100 a barrel again. We'll go to
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: the US for the latest. Trump's going to give a
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: big speech at the Republican National Convention as well. We'll
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: give you details of what's to come. David Seymour on
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: red tape. Loads of your text and feedback we'll get
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: to in a second as well. But over in Germany,
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: you know, we've had the far right... And I do
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: that with some inverted commas because, I mean, what is
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: far right? How far right do you go before you're
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: no longer far right? You know what I mean? Before
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: you're left of far right. Anyway, it's AFD and Mertz.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: It's an existential threat to Mertz, who's the chancellor in
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Germany at the moment, because they're coming for him when
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: they have their next general elections. Remember, these are state elections.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: But when they have the next general elections, they are
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: hoping to try and cling them out. Now, Merz has
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: hit back his first comment since their victory at the weekend.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: He's accusing them of ethnic cleansing. And the reason he's
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: saying the words ethnic cleansing is because of their re-migration policy,
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: which is basically to take people who are in Germany
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: illegally and send them home. Now, this is quite a
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: controversial term, apparently. They refer to it, certainly places like
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: The Guardian refer to it as Irregular migrants. So it's
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: large-scale expulsions of irregular migrants. And then you go, well,
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: what the hell is an irregular migrant? An irregular migrant
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: is anyone who enters a country without official permission or
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: legal documents. Now, in my mind, that's an illegal immigration.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: You know, it's as the Americans would call an illegal alien.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Isn't it the same thing? Anyway, he's saying that sending
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: them home is basically ethnic cleansing. He's got a job
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: to protect. It's 22 minutes away from six. Let's go
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: around the country. Jamie Cunningham Dunedin. Jamie, good morning.
• 20:04
  Speaker 9: Morning, Ryan.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: You've got some goldmine news for us.
• 20:07
  Speaker 13: Yes, so Oceana Gold wants to squeeze another decade out
• 20:10
  Speaker 13: of New Zealand's biggest gold mine, lodging a $ 3. 1 billion
• 20:14
  Speaker 13: application to extend its McRae's operation in Otago. It's seeking
• 20:19
  Speaker 13: fast-track approval for the project, targeting another 1 million ounces
• 20:23
  Speaker 13: of gold over more than a decade. Senior Vice President
• 20:26
  Speaker 13: for Legal and Public Affairs Alison Poole says it would
• 20:29
  Speaker 13: benefit East Otago and the wider community, supporting hundreds of
• 20:33
  Speaker 13: jobs and local businesses. She adds that it's also an
• 20:36
  Speaker 13: opportunity to improve the way the mine looks after the environment,
• 20:40
  Speaker 13: meeting New Zealanders' expectations now and in the future. The
• 20:44
  Speaker 13: application will now be assessed for completeness before being considered
• 20:48
  Speaker 13: by an independent expert panel.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: All right, how's your weather, Jamie?
• 20:52
  Speaker 13: Fine, apart from rain before dawn, westerlies and a high
• 20:55
  Speaker 13: of 10.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Clare's in Christchurch. Morning, Clare.
• 20:58
  Speaker 14: Good morning.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: What's this mansion been given away?
• 21:01
  Speaker 15: Yeah, this is a multi-million dollar home in Merivale. It's
• 21:04
  Speaker 15: up for grabs, but with one catch, whoever takes it
• 21:07
  Speaker 15: will have to then pay and go to the hassle
• 21:09
  Speaker 15: of moving it. Developers M Group are keen to clear
• 21:12
  Speaker 15: this 1,500 square metre property to put six new standalone
• 21:16
  Speaker 15: townhouses on there. It reportedly bought this mansion for $ 3. 8 million.
• 21:21
  Speaker 15: It's been dutifully restored since the quakes, and basically now
• 21:25
  Speaker 15: you can have it if you move it. Now, Director
• 21:28
  Speaker 15: Sean McCrory says they're not looking to make any money
• 21:30
  Speaker 15: from this process, but they do think that finding a
• 21:32
  Speaker 15: buyer won't necessarily be easy because there is relocation and
• 21:35
  Speaker 15: further investment costs to consider. That said, he reckons there
• 21:39
  Speaker 15: are already some interested parties who have both the land
• 21:42
  Speaker 15: and means to move this 120-year-old home. How's your weather, Clare?
• 21:48
  Speaker 15: We've got rain developing this morning, should clear early afternoon.
• 21:51
  Speaker 15: Southwesterly is briefly strong, but then dying out to the
• 21:54
  Speaker 15: high 11.
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: Nice one.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: Thanks.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: You have a nice day. Max, good morning.
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: Good morning.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Ho, ho, ho.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: That's right. Yeah, it may seem a little early to
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: be thinking about Christmas, but September 10. But for 86 years,
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: the Royal New Zealand RSA has been sending Christmas parcels
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: to New Zealand military personnel deployed overseas. And today marks
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: the beginning of that prep. They're wrapping these parcels today
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: at Trentham Military Camp. You're talking handmade cards from families, well-wishers,
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: Kiwi treats, non-perishable, I assume, pans providing most of the food.
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: A really great event.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: Last year, more than 150 parcels were sent to Defence
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: Force personnel serving in places like Korea, South Sudan, Egypt,
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: the Middle East, Antarctica, among others. And today, September 10,
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: marks the day that those parcels are wrapped at Trentham.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: Oh, wonderful.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: How's your weather?
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: Cloudy with showers. Stronger norwesterlies this morning, 14.
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: You enjoy, Max. Thank you. Neva, ho, ho, ho.
• 22:55
  Speaker 16: We'll be sitting here laughing with my hand over my
• 22:57
  Speaker 16: mouth going, stop it, Neva.
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: Stop laughing.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Hey, the Kmart store that's opening in West Auckland this morning.
• 23:02
  Speaker 11: Pretty big.
• 23:02
  Speaker 16: Yes, pretty big. And I bet you there will be queues.
• 23:05
  Speaker 16: There'll be queues of people waiting because, you know, they
• 23:08
  Speaker 16: love turning up to the opening of an envelope. So
• 23:10
  Speaker 16: unlike others, it's going to operate with the stores.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: Apparently.
• 23:14
  Speaker 16: A Plan C Plus format. What is that, you ask?
• 23:18
  Speaker 16: I'm not sure, but it's a new layout. I think
• 23:21
  Speaker 16: that's really big in Australia. So that's what they have,
• 23:24
  Speaker 16: the Kmart Plan C Plus format. So it's a whole
• 23:27
  Speaker 16: new layout. The checkout, instead of, you know, Kmart, you
• 23:30
  Speaker 16: go to Kmart and the checkout is in the middle
• 23:32
  Speaker 16: of the store. It's now going to be at the
• 23:34
  Speaker 16: front of the store or near the exit. So they're
• 23:36
  Speaker 16: shifting everything around. There's going to be better product presentation there.
• 23:42
  Speaker 16: expanded self-service technology. And apparently this is pretty cool. So
• 23:49
  Speaker 16: the Westgate store is going to introduce, you know, like
• 23:51
  Speaker 16: new kiosks for larger items. So that's your outdoor equipment,
• 23:55
  Speaker 16: your nursery products. So instead of taking up all the
• 23:58
  Speaker 16: huge amount of space on the shop floor, customers, you
• 24:02
  Speaker 16: go to a, you know, kiosk and then you'll just
• 24:04
  Speaker 16: punch it in and say, oh, I want 10 plants, blah, blah, blah.
• 24:08
  Speaker 16: Decide on an item. You get a ticket, and then
• 24:11
  Speaker 16: you collect it from a collection site.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: It does seem odd. I'm thinking of the one in
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: the mall in St.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Luke's.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Oh, yes, I go to that one. Why do they
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: have it in the middle of the shop? I never
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: really thought about why it's there, but it doesn't really
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: make sense.
• 24:24
  Speaker 13: No, quite right.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: And then you've got all the security on the door
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: wondering who's leaving without paying. It's not immediately obvious if
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: you've been through the checkout.
• 24:31
  Speaker 16: And I think they must have thought. about that too.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: They hurt you.
• 24:34
  Speaker 16: They hurt you, Ryan, and decided to change it.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Plan C plus. Someone just trying to be cool with
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: design and it didn't work. And why C?
• 24:41
  Speaker 16: Why C?
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Why the letter C? C.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: C, C. I don't know.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Because that's what you are if you shoplift. How's the weather?
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: Cloud increasing. Odd shower from late morning.
• 24:54
  Speaker 16: Then that rain, I think, will be quite heavy early evening.
• 24:58
  Speaker 16: 16 the high here in England.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: All right. Thank you, Niva. It is 17 away from
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: six here on Newstalk ZB. What's Trump going to say
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: to the Republican National Convention? We'll tell you next. There's
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: no denying it. Businesses are under pressure at the moment.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Keeping up in the current market takes real innovation. And
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: that's why businesses are getting ahead of the crowd and
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: looking harder at technology. and technology that genuinely improves how
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: you operate. Because resilience doesn't just happen overnight, it's something
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: you build. And that's the conversation Spark is having with
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: their customers right now. Whether it's smarter connectivity, cloud solutions
• 25:30
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• 25:33
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• 25:36
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• 25:40
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• 25:43
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• 25:46
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• 25:48
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• 25:50
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• 25:54
  Speaker 2: 14 away from six.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: We'll get to David Seymour in just a second. First,
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: oil bring crude up over 100 bucks a barrel overnight,
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: and this is because of the war in the Middle East. Nick,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: what do we know?
• 26:11
  Speaker 14: That's right, Ryan. It's been pushed up even higher, up
• 26:15
  Speaker 14: above $ 100 a barrel for the first time in several months,
• 26:17
  Speaker 14: really since about July. And the bad news, it's going
• 26:21
  Speaker 14: to go higher. That's the expectation because we are once
• 26:23
  Speaker 14: again seemingly in that cycle of strikes and counter-strikes by
• 26:27
  Speaker 14: the US and Iran. So in the last 24 hours,
• 26:29
  Speaker 14: the US destroyed five Iranian oil tankers, Iran in retaliation,
• 26:34
  Speaker 14: targeted a US base in Jordan, targeted two US vessels
• 26:38
  Speaker 14: and eight oil tankers near the Strait of Hormuz. And
• 26:41
  Speaker 14: the US Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, is saying that
• 26:44
  Speaker 14: the US will continue to hit Iran's oil tankers if
• 26:47
  Speaker 14: Iran continues to retaliate.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: So in theory.
• 26:50
  Speaker 14: more US retaliation to come in the coming hours. And
• 26:53
  Speaker 14: on top of that, Iran is threatening to target more
• 26:56
  Speaker 14: oil tankers. And that's all bad news for energy prices.
• 26:59
  Speaker 14: We've just seen here in the US the most expensive
• 27:02
  Speaker 14: holiday weekend, the end of summer Labor Day weekend, the
• 27:05
  Speaker 14: most expensive for motorists on record, all because petrol prices
• 27:09
  Speaker 14: have been pushed up by the war in Iran. And
• 27:11
  Speaker 14: now oil prices rising higher once again.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Nick, what about Trump's big speech at the Republican convention?
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Are you going to talk about this? It's cost of living.
• 27:19
  Speaker 14: Well, this is the big thing. Many Republicans want him
• 27:22
  Speaker 14: to deal with those issues that matter to voters. Affordability,
• 27:26
  Speaker 14: rising inflation, this war with Iran that is pushing up prices.
• 27:29
  Speaker 14: But the big worry is it's going to be all
• 27:31
  Speaker 14: about Trump and all about Trump's ego. Because you wouldn't
• 27:35
  Speaker 14: normally have a convention ahead of a midterm election. They
• 27:38
  Speaker 14: normally only happen every four years, just ahead of the
• 27:41
  Speaker 14: presidential election. So this is unusual. Donald Trump, though, wanted
• 27:45
  Speaker 14: to have it. And therefore, the worry is, He's going
• 27:48
  Speaker 14: to talk about all his old grievances. He's going to
• 27:50
  Speaker 14: attack Joe Biden, who hasn't been president for a couple
• 27:53
  Speaker 14: of years, and really not deal with the big problems
• 27:55
  Speaker 14: that voters will be thinking about when they vote in
• 27:58
  Speaker 14: under two months in the midterm elections. And today, on
• 28:01
  Speaker 14: day one of two days, Donald Trump is giving the
• 28:03
  Speaker 14: headline speech. He didn't want to wait until day two.
• 28:06
  Speaker 14: He's jumping in, giving the headline speech tonight and says...
• 28:09
  Speaker 14: He'll speak on day two to give closing remarks. So yes,
• 28:12
  Speaker 14: it's all about Trump, but will he deal with the
• 28:15
  Speaker 14: cost of living issues that many Americans are feeling?
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: All right, Nick.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: Nick Harper, that's our US correspondent. Time is 18, sorry,
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: 12 minutes away from six o'clock. Very quickly, this is
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: out of China. They've released their inflation number. It's still low,
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: up 0.8% from a year ago, but it is a
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: little higher than July, marginally higher than what they were expecting.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: The interesting thing is what's falling in pork. is falling
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: through the floor, the price of it, and the reason
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: they've got massive industrial-scale pig farms over there. Supply up,
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: price down. Back home, hospo regulation reviews. This is David
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Seymour's lot. Paying too much in fees are our hospo businesses.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Licensing decisions taking too long. Some don't even make sense.
• 29:00
  Speaker 13: Sometimes what happens is individual agencies don't appreciate.
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: What.
• 29:06
  Speaker 13: They're doing is running counter to what another government department
• 29:09
  Speaker 13: is doing.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: No decisions made yet on this review. David Seymour, Minister
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: for Regulation with us. David, good morning.
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: Good morning.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Hey, so one of the things that's come up, do
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: we need a minister for alcohol or regulating responsible for
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: alcohol and potentially another new agency?
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, that's the recommendation that has been put up
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: by the ministry, um, Not really one that I would
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: go with. My view is that these things can be
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: achieved by getting the people we have or ideally less
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: ministers and departments to do their job. But I think
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: what they've identified is that there is a problem in
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: that too many people don't know what the left hand,
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: doesn't know what the right hand is doing. When it
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: comes to the point of view of a cafe or
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: a restaurant or a food truck or a farmer's market storeholder,
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: often they'll find that they've got to deal with, in
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: some cases, half a dozen different agencies. That's mad.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: I think people understand that, and I think the substance
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: of that is right. But just from an optics point
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: of view, David, you've got this Ministry of Regulation set
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: up to get rid of regulations recommending a new minister
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: and a new agency. It's like you talk about the
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: left hand and the right hand. How many hands do
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: we need?
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: We'll end up with an octopus. I think from the
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: point of view of the Ministry for Regulation, I know
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: there's people who say, oh, how can you have a
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: bureaucracy to stop bureaucracy? But in time and again, what
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: they've proven is that when you have some embattled business
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: or what we call a regulated party with multiple government
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: departments regulating them, first of all, they don't know where
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: to start. And second of all, even if they did,
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: they're very unlikely to complain because if you're regulated, you
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: rely on having an easy life and a good relationship.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: With your regulator.
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: You don't really want to tell them, to be honest,
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: we think you're crap because that means they might start
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: picking on you.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: So if you look at.
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: Everything from Early childhood education, we've totally flipped over the
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: way that they're regulated thanks to the MFR going and
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: talking to literally thousands of people in that sector. Now
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: we're doing hospitality. In the past, we've done telecommunications. even
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: just the importation of veterinary medicines and agricultural products. So
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: that's the power of the Ministry for Regulation. A, you
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: can talk to them, and B, they're not actually a
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: regulator themselves, but they can tell the rest of the
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: government what to do. And this will, without taking that
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: particular recommendation... This is going to make life a hell
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: of a lot easier for people just trying to make
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: a buck in the hospital industry.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: David Seymour, ACT Party leader, Deputy PM and Minister for Regulation.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: 8 to 6, Newstalk ZB.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: The news you need this morning and the in-depth analysis.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Early edition with Ryan Bridge and Spark for Business.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Technology that keeps business moving. Newstalk ZB.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Six to six on Newstalk ZB. Mike is with you
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: this morning.
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: Good to see you back, Ryan.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: Great to be back, Mike.
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: It's only when you get Andrew Dickens you realise how
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: good you are.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, poor Andrew.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: Poor Andrew.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Andrew, thank you for saving the day. What are you
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: discussing today, Mike?
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: Well, today I'm going to talk to a man called
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: Geordie Barrett.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Oh, cool.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: Who enjoys throwing a football around. So they're in Washington, actually,
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: which is interesting because if they said to me to
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: prepare for a test in Baltimore, would you like to
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: be in Washington? I'd go Washington because Washington is one
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: of the great cities of America.
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: I haven't been. Obviously, you have. A friend of mine
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: went and said you can rent a bike and just
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: bike around. Best way to do Washington.
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: That's probably true, actually. On my iFit at home, one
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: of the early rides I did, ironically, was Washington on
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: that exact route. So you can do your different things
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: on your iFit. And this particular guy was one of
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: those casual routes, you know, like I go up mountains
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: and down dales and stuff. But on the Washington one,
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: you could just go gently around Washington. On the streets.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: On the streets of Washington. Look at the monuments. It's fantastic.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Because one day, you know, you won't be able to travel.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: You'll be too old. But you can go around the
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: world on your iFit.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: I can go around the world on my iFit.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: I thought you had a Peloton thing.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: No, no, they're the same thing. I go iFit. I
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: had iFit before I knew what Peloton was, but they're
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: the same thing. It's well worth getting if you're into
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: your fitness.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Do you have a sweat towel?
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, I've got one of those, absolutely.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: A little drink bottle?
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I don't do the drink bottle, but I've
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: got the sweat towel. I've got room for the drink bottle.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: Not a camelback?
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: No, mine's a race machine, and the drink bottle's down
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: between your legs. You know how they reach down? It's
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: not on the handlebars. Oh, so you've reached down every
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: now and then. Well, if I had one, I'd reach
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: down between my legs, and they'd be all on. But
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: you don't want to cause yourself an injury with that. Anyway,
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: so Geordie Barrett on the program, and Sir Peter Beck's
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: coming in for a chat about his rocket lab and
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: stuff like that. Do you realise he spends half the cut?
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: I assumed he was an American.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: He is, isn't he?
• 34:18
  Speaker 7: No.
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: He still lives at least half the year, if not more, here.
• 34:21
  Speaker 12: Oh.
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's still very much a New Zealand company,
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: so he's in as well. I think that sounds like
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: a pretty good show, Ryan.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Sounds great. Can't beat it.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: I don't think so, and the evidence is there to
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: prove it. Anyway, great to see you back.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Have a fantastic day. Newstalk ZB.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Just keep watching.
• 34:43
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