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Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, February 12 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Jeff Warris, did you do Jeck Jack Morris, did you
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Speaker 1: Jeff Warris? Drive Time? Ryan Sex steps that, John says Ashley,
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Speaker 1: Jeff Wars Drive Time starts right now. Good morning, Happy
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Speaker 1: Tuesday to you. And it's gonna be a beautiful one.
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Speaker 1: More than eighty degrees, it says on my computer. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to Florida. Have you seen the weather reports, by the
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Speaker 1: way in Joe's hometown of Philadelphia. No, I don't go
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Speaker 1: about Philadelphia, alright, snow and ice from Chicago all the
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Speaker 1: way up and eight three to get today. This just
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Speaker 1: guilty at all, Just you and me. Yeah right. Ashley
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Speaker 1: is off smelling the roses somewhere and thank goodness, thank goodness.
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Speaker 1: So we say that the brains of the operations are here,
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Speaker 1: the weather, the beauty or the beast is here. We'll
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Speaker 1: just leave that one up to you. It's Tuesday morning,
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Speaker 1: nine o'clock Eastern time. Glad you're with us wherever you are.
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Speaker 1: Brian and John, um, this is kind of that. It's
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Speaker 1: not like the dead zone in June before training camp begins.
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Speaker 1: It's kind of the anticipatory Oh yeah, there's puny. I
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Speaker 1: mean you just you're just kind of waiting. Yeah, and
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Speaker 1: it's it was, you know, the last two weeks of February,
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Speaker 1: and they've shifted the league year back in recent years
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Speaker 1: now to do about a month from now. Every too long,
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Speaker 1: but everything, Yeah, everything kind of gets started then, and
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Speaker 1: it compresses it because you go right from the start
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Speaker 1: of free agency to the draft in a quick period
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Speaker 1: of time. There, Yeah, six weeks, but it's uh, when
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Speaker 1: you mix in pro days and everything that goes with
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Speaker 1: that schedule release it Uh, it goes quickly. And I
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Speaker 1: think it's not about this one is there because a
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Speaker 1: quarterback is the topic. There is so much and so
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Speaker 1: much to muddle through if you if you start counting,
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Speaker 1: there are literally eight, nine, tan eleven guys who could
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Speaker 1: conceivably be behind center of the the Jaguars next year. And
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Speaker 1: when you're writing and here talking about it, there's well,
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Speaker 1: if one, two, three over here happened, then it could
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Speaker 1: be a B and C over here. So it's really
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Speaker 1: impossible to get a real feel for what's going on.
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Speaker 1: But it's all sort of come down to from fans
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Speaker 1: perspective anyway. Nick Foles, Dwayne Haskins, some combination of that
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Speaker 1: is uh, is where the barometer is if you will. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so let's go right to big things. And one thing
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Speaker 1: that we have no one for us if you look
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Speaker 1: for full uh. This the a F football in February
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Speaker 1: and I was out of town for the weekend. I
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Speaker 1: got home, my my boys were watching I don't even
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Speaker 1: know who was playing, but they were watching this a
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Speaker 1: F and they were all geeked up about it. And
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Speaker 1: in reading about it yesterday and talking to some people
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Speaker 1: around here, there are some intriguing concepts to it. Not
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Speaker 1: because it's going to challenge the NFL, like the American
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Speaker 1: Football League did back in the sixties which eventually forced
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Speaker 1: the merger, which is given us modern football um, but
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Speaker 1: because it has the ability to polish the NFL change
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Speaker 1: it a bit. Brings some concepts forward that might impact
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Speaker 1: this game. Well. One thing that I think the that
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Speaker 1: it's got a good chance to have some legs if
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Speaker 1: you will, that other leagues haven't, meaning the world le
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Speaker 1: American football, which you were involved with, NFL Europe, NFL
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Speaker 1: Europe and other leagues. Is there is such an emphasis
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Speaker 1: And I'm a little out of my depth talking about
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Speaker 1: how television deals with things these days, but my understanding
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Speaker 1: is that there is such an emphasis now on live events, Grammys, Oscars,
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Speaker 1: any sort of awards show why they want because everything's
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Speaker 1: on demand right Well, Netflix changes the game more than that.
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Speaker 1: They want a social media presence, and you can't get
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Speaker 1: a social media presence off people who watching Netflix because
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Speaker 1: they're streaming at home. They're not watching the same thing.
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Speaker 1: There's a high demand for people who will get engaged
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Speaker 1: on social media during an event, which has never really
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Speaker 1: happened before with the new football league. Even the last
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Speaker 1: Football League XFL was before Twitter, before this stuff. So
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Speaker 1: I do think there is an element of people have
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Speaker 1: gotten to the point where they want something to talk
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Speaker 1: about on social media, no matter what that is, and
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Speaker 1: I think this feeds into it. More importantly, there are
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Speaker 1: some things that the NFL is going to draw from
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Speaker 1: from this league. The live television component is really all
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Speaker 1: that's left for the broadcast networks to engage people because
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Speaker 1: of the Netflix of the world, and so it does
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Speaker 1: give them that element of it. Um. The interesting part
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Speaker 1: to music, you know, the a f L back in
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Speaker 1: the sixties really pushed the NFL. It started with more
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Speaker 1: wide open offenses as opposed to you know the Paul
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Speaker 1: Brown and George Hollis and Vince Lombardi offenses. Uh, that
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Speaker 1: had been the NFL because they ran in the same
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Speaker 1: thing as league. Every league runs into. They need there's
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Speaker 1: only so many offensive line absolutely, so you threw it around.
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Speaker 1: The other thing is is that they wanted an exciting brand.
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Speaker 1: They needed some reason for people to come to them.
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Speaker 1: Um back to the life thing. You mentioned NFL Europe.
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Speaker 1: One of the things that we did in NFL Europe,
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Speaker 1: but back then it was Fox Sports. Eventually the NFL
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Speaker 1: network covered. They had live microphones on. So you heard
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Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator using the coach to quarterback helmet talking
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Speaker 1: to the quarterback. Well, that's what this a F is doing.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I didn't see the broadcast. I
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Speaker 1: don't know whether they're going that far, but I know
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Speaker 1: that you're hearing the official and the replay official talking
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Speaker 1: back and forth about the replay. That's where this is
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Speaker 1: going to change the television side of the game. Then, obviously,
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Speaker 1: the football side of the game is they've done away
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Speaker 1: with kickoffs. They've done away with the onside kick, which,
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Speaker 1: by the way, this year was lost to the NFL.
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Speaker 1: I kind of like this concept of first in our
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Speaker 1: partner fourth and twelve yard line, and I do too. Uh,
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Speaker 1: they have to do something, because it was clear by
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Speaker 1: the end of this last season. I didn't see it
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Speaker 1: much in Jaguars games because there wasn't a whole lot
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Speaker 1: of onside kick situations, but in the other games that
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Speaker 1: I was able to view, you did get a sinking
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Speaker 1: feeling by the playoffs that if a team was down
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Speaker 1: ten in the final two minutes, there was no way
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Speaker 1: they were going to win because they weren't going to
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Speaker 1: recover the onside kick even less than it has been
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Speaker 1: And the league has to make that feeling go away
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Speaker 1: that was that was a foreign feeling to a long
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Speaker 1: time football fan like me, and you have to get
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Speaker 1: rid of that feelings that has to be hoped for
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Speaker 1: a team. At the same time, I think the league
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Speaker 1: needs to be careful of a couple of things on
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Speaker 1: the onside kick role. It's very easy to say, well,
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Speaker 1: put it in fourth and twelve because comebacks are cool.
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Speaker 1: They're going to be tempted to make that a little easy,
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Speaker 1: a little easier because it'll create these oh they came
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Speaker 1: from thirty five points. You don't want to completely have
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Speaker 1: a new game in that situation that what you've had
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Speaker 1: in the past. The second thing is I think there's
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Speaker 1: a danger of favoring the offense a little too much
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Speaker 1: in that situation, even fourth and twelve, And what I
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Speaker 1: saw didn't appear though that they were favoring offense in
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Speaker 1: the games at large, defense was hit. But if you
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Speaker 1: bring it into the NFL, I'm talking about the onside kick.
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Speaker 1: If you bring that into the NFL. Uh, just conceptually,
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Speaker 1: if you're fourth and twelve and you have Rogers Brady Manning,
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Speaker 1: you're giving the offensive as opposed to a team that
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Speaker 1: was built like the Jaguars last year or even or
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Speaker 1: even other teams that are more defensive oriented. Uh. Is
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Speaker 1: there some way to have a choice of what you
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Speaker 1: can do in that situation, a short yard or run?
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Speaker 1: I doubt it, but it would again be a fourth
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Speaker 1: and twelve if you've got a franchise quarterback. Is a
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Speaker 1: far higher percentage situation for a team like say the
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Speaker 1: Chiefs then it would have been say even the Rams
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Speaker 1: this year. We just go back and watch the end
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Speaker 1: of that Baltimore game for Kansas City and watch what
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Speaker 1: Mahomes did on fourth and ten to set up the game.
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Speaker 1: So I think that's why. I think the LEE hasn't
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Speaker 1: wanted that because that's a little scary in terms of
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Speaker 1: tilth in the game. But you're gonna have to do
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Speaker 1: that in some direction because you have to have an
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Speaker 1: element of come back at the end of the game.
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Speaker 1: Here's the one thing. You know. You have this a F,
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Speaker 1: you have this Pacific Coast League that's popping up, the
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Speaker 1: Don Yee, who is an agent, he's Tom Brady's agent,
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Speaker 1: is behind, and you have the the XFL coming back.
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Speaker 1: So you know, none of them are going, on the
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Speaker 1: face value, going to challenge the NFL in terms of supremacy.
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Speaker 1: But what they will do is give the NFL a
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Speaker 1: chance to see how other things are going. Bill Pollion
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Speaker 1: very involved in the USFL in the in the eighties
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Speaker 1: and is now very involved in the a F and
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Speaker 1: obviously he's a Hall of Famer in the NFL. So
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Speaker 1: there's a chance there is a laboratory for the NFL
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Speaker 1: to work on making the changes for the game, which
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Speaker 1: is very beneficial for the league. Okay, big thing too, Uh,
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Speaker 1: this was the big news yesterday Indianapolis in February. It's
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Speaker 1: gonna be interesting with the quarterback situation was already going
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Speaker 1: to make it compelling. Now you bring in five ft nine,
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Speaker 1: maybe five ten Kyler Murray, and he is the story
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Speaker 1: overall stories. He's the story in this draft season. Well,
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Speaker 1: he's going to be the story for all of the
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Speaker 1: absolutely the story. I don't know that he is the
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Speaker 1: best quarterback in this draft. I don't know that. If
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Speaker 1: I don't know that, just because he's the story, it's
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Speaker 1: gonna be the Jaguar story. But it's absolutely gonna be
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Speaker 1: His is going to be the podium that is most
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Speaker 1: crowded around but in Indianapolis, And uh, you know, there's
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Speaker 1: part of me that wonders on a reality level, how
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Speaker 1: much yesterday's announcement changed. It's great to send out a
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Speaker 1: tweet that you're committed to football. I still think for
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Speaker 1: teams interviewing him, it's going to be a major topic
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Speaker 1: and a major question of Okay, the graphic was great
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Speaker 1: on Twitter, Kid, how serious are you about this? Because
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Speaker 1: just because he said on Twitter, I mean you can't
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Speaker 1: turn around walk away. Well, he told the A's that
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Speaker 1: he was definitely playing football, but sorry, definitely playing baseball
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Speaker 1: before then yesterday's announcement where he he's a hund percent
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Speaker 1: committed to becoming ann and the fear it's not his fault,
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Speaker 1: but he has obviously baseball talent. He would have been
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Speaker 1: a first round draft pick. So teams, I think, who
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Speaker 1: want a kid who's completely committed and they wanted to
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Speaker 1: and they want to know what they're going to be
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Speaker 1: for five years, do worry if something goes wrong. He's
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Speaker 1: got a fallback option. And I think that's still gonna
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Speaker 1: be a topic, but clearly in his I mean, he
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Speaker 1: did answer or a major question yesterday, but I still
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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be something that teams are going to
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Speaker 1: be concerned about well. And word out of the Bay
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Speaker 1: Area yesterday was that the A's have not given up
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Speaker 1: trying to persuade him to come play baseball. They're working
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Speaker 1: within the framework of Major League Baseball to offer him
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Speaker 1: a contract which hasn't been done, to pay him more
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Speaker 1: in line with what he might make as a mid
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Speaker 1: first round pick. Whether they can do that, and they
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Speaker 1: can't just write the check. It has to go through
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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball to be approved, but worth note. But
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Speaker 1: you gotta figure Baseball is going to give a little
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Speaker 1: bit on it because they don't want this to be
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Speaker 1: any kind of pressent. Quick um five ft nine. I
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Speaker 1: mean it's uh, it's very easy to say, well, shouldn't
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Speaker 1: bother you, But there is an element that teams like
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Speaker 1: of durability. Uh. For whatever, Blake Bortles wasn't around here.
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Speaker 1: He was a big guy who was able to absorb hits.
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Speaker 1: He was always on the field, he was available, which
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Speaker 1: is always league always where you here in league circles,
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Speaker 1: fans are gonna poo poo all those things that has
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Speaker 1: talked about because they see the dynamics stuff. I'm just
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Speaker 1: telling you League front offices five nine is going to
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Speaker 1: scare him a little bit. You have to really investigate
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Speaker 1: the kid to see if he's an outlier who can
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Speaker 1: break all the rules that you think work in this league.
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Speaker 1: All right, final big thing here before we take our
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Speaker 1: first break of the morning, and that is football in March.
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Speaker 1: There's John d Filippo, the Jacks new offensive coordinator, and
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Speaker 1: obviously people run the league or connecting dots and see
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Speaker 1: Nick Foles, I thank you photos shopped in. I don't
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Speaker 1: think he's really in that picture. I didn't photoshop. I
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Speaker 1: don't know how to do that. That's fair, I do believe.
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Speaker 1: Is your inbox filled with this right now. Oh, it's
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Speaker 1: all it is. And again I just don't think that
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Speaker 1: the De Filippo higher was as much about Folds as
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Speaker 1: couldn't because you couldn't know you have him. Well, yeah,
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Speaker 1: and I'm sure that it would be a it would
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Speaker 1: be a nice thing. I'm sure. But somebody asked me
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Speaker 1: this week, well, what if we don't know that was
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Speaker 1: the guy anyway? What he's in there going? This guy's
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Speaker 1: a clown. I don't I don't want. I don't think
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Speaker 1: he's doing that. But yes, it's all folds all the time.
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Speaker 1: And obviously what you have to figure out is he's
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Speaker 1: not an elite guy. He's going to make you better
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Speaker 1: at the position? Is he going to make you million
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Speaker 1: dollars better? And what is million dollars better? I mean,
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Speaker 1: those are all major questions. Is he a lift the
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Speaker 1: guys around him guy? Which Blake clearly wasn't. It's why
13:29
Speaker 1: you have to move on. They they found that out
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Speaker 1: beyond a shadow of a doubt last year. Probably knew
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Speaker 1: it anyway. But if he was a raise guys around him,
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Speaker 1: he'd be here. It is folds a raised guy around him,
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Speaker 1: And if he's not, is that money worth it? I
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Speaker 1: get the idea it will be because they found out
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Speaker 1: last year that you had to have something more than
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Speaker 1: what you had, and it's gonna be a high price
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Speaker 1: for perhaps a marginal increase. Balancing that out is the
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Speaker 1: contract that the Vikings gave Kirk Cousins, and he put one. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean, he put up big numbers, but it didn't
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Speaker 1: take them where they wanted to go. And he was
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Speaker 1: healthy and he had something that this team really doesn't have.
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Speaker 1: He had some elite weapons one offense. They don't really
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Speaker 1: have that. As I look at Folds, I say, well,
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Speaker 1: is Earth's coming with him? Is Goddard coming with him?
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Speaker 1: Those guys? He also has el Sean Jeffrey and this
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Speaker 1: year Golden Tate, and those were guys You need the
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Speaker 1: football coaches to be able to put the tape on
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Speaker 1: and show you. But my understanding is that this team
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Speaker 1: isn't as talented as that team in terms of offensive weapons.
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Speaker 1: But and so the argument against that is you still
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Speaker 1: got to get better. So and that's where that's where
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Speaker 1: the back and forth is. That's where the decision lies.
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Speaker 1: It's a gamble, um, It's a gamble that has a
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Speaker 1: large chance of not working. But there is also an
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Speaker 1: element this league if you've got to do something to
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Speaker 1: get better at that possession. This is the conversation we'll
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Speaker 1: be having for weeks weeks. Obviously in March it will
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16:51
Speaker 1: Brian John Ashland on vacation. What do you guys could
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Speaker 1: to combine um funny six of feder legs? So still
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks away? It's a couple of weeks. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: did you give Ashton time to get back and you
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Speaker 1: get back in the swing pot? How don't you know
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Speaker 1: she's not vacationing until then? That's fair, That's fair. It
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Speaker 1: probably is. Instead of Ashley asks, where the Jewish set
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Speaker 1: call this segment? Joe asks, because Joe walks around the
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Speaker 1: office all day asking people things. Anyway, I don't get answers,
17:21
Speaker 1: but I asked, how are you gonna learn? All right?
17:24
Speaker 1: First up, guys, if you're the Jaguars, does Kyler Murray's
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Speaker 1: decisn't change anything for you? Well, it changes the the
17:34
Speaker 1: work you gotta do. I mean, because you've got to
17:36
Speaker 1: do your due diligence. This kid is dynamic. He might
17:39
Speaker 1: be special. He doesn't seem to bring the off field concerns.
17:44
Speaker 1: I was comparing to Johnny Football. He just seems like
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Speaker 1: that kind of He's not that kid, uh right, off
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Speaker 1: the field, not at all. But the dynamic a better version.
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Speaker 1: It's probably not fair to comparing Johny Football because he
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Speaker 1: looks like he It is a better pure pastor has
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Speaker 1: more quarterback skills. So yeah, it it changes the work
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Speaker 1: you have to do. Um. I don't think they take him.
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Speaker 1: It just doesn't feel like, uh, there's an old school.
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Speaker 1: But I think these guys like prototype. I think prototypes
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Speaker 1: important in terms of a lot of the things they've
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Speaker 1: gone after before. So uh, I don't think it changes
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Speaker 1: what they do, but it changes the work they have
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Speaker 1: to do well. Tom Coughlin has three Super Bowl rings
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Speaker 1: from the New York Giants organization, which was heavily influenced
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Speaker 1: by George Young, who always had that you know that
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Speaker 1: that planet theory, you take the biggest players, right, Tom,
18:35
Speaker 1: if you were calling you do um. When he first
18:38
Speaker 1: built this team, he wanted bigger guys. He was a
18:41
Speaker 1: size guy. He wanted the bigger, faster, stronger. Um. The
18:45
Speaker 1: only thing that I'm intrigued by is I'm not I
18:47
Speaker 1: don't watch a lot of college football, Joe, not much
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Speaker 1: at all, But when Oklahoma was on, I watched this
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Speaker 1: kid because he was so dynamic, and I wonder what
18:55
Speaker 1: the Patrick Mahomes, Baker Mayfields of the world. And obviously
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Speaker 1: those stories are just starting to be written about how
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Speaker 1: they've changed the game. You have to make sure that
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Speaker 1: this kid isn't pushing one of these guys who's pushing
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Speaker 1: the league in that direction, if he's missing on something.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think you have to take a much
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Speaker 1: more serious look than you would have ten years ago.
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Speaker 1: And I don't know how much this weighs in on it,
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Speaker 1: but don't forget Drew Brees is just barely six ft tall,
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Speaker 1: and Doug Maron was with him again six six, five
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Speaker 1: ft nine and a half. It's a big difference in
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Speaker 1: two Yeah. Yeah, but but but the point is is
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Speaker 1: that Maron has worked around less than prototypical quarterbacks. And
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Speaker 1: the thought is, you know, if he falls in love
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Speaker 1: with him, who knows he may be able to make
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Speaker 1: a kid. All right, what acquiring Nick Foleos prohibit you
19:44
Speaker 1: from drafting a quarterback in the first round. I think
19:47
Speaker 1: I don't think it's any question. And uh, because of this,
19:50
Speaker 1: I don't think Folds is going to come here. Yah.
19:55
Speaker 1: I understanding is the contract would need to be worked out.
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Speaker 1: How much you're gonna pay him over the course of
20:02
Speaker 1: the time he's here has to be worked out before
20:03
Speaker 1: he gets here. I don't think he's going to come
20:05
Speaker 1: for a one year type of deal. I think you
20:09
Speaker 1: have to commit to him as your guy. And I
20:11
Speaker 1: don't think I don't think he's going to want some
20:15
Speaker 1: sort of assurance financial and in fact to say yes,
20:20
Speaker 1: I'm coming there. Uh. And I don't think he's going
20:24
Speaker 1: to be willing to do that if there's a first
20:26
Speaker 1: round number seven overall pick, because then the first interception
20:29
Speaker 1: he throws is gonna be well, let's see the backup.
20:31
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's gonna happen. He makes all
20:33
Speaker 1: the sense in the world with this. I just want
20:34
Speaker 1: to remind everybody that the Kansas City Chiefs from the
20:37
Speaker 1: first year they were in Kansas City until Patrick Mahomes
20:39
Speaker 1: didn't draft a quarterback that took them to the playoffs.
20:42
Speaker 1: They just took other people's castaways. And I just at
20:47
Speaker 1: some point you got a draft one. I agree, But
20:49
Speaker 1: if if you're gonna draft one, you don't sign the guy. Yeah, okay,
20:53
Speaker 1: we'll see. I just I hate to see them passed
20:55
Speaker 1: on quarterback, quarterback, quarterback. They did it last year. This
20:57
Speaker 1: would be two years in a row. Maybe next year
20:59
Speaker 1: would be three. And then you become the Chiefs and
21:01
Speaker 1: you're always waiting for someone else's quarterbacks. Al Right, guys,
21:05
Speaker 1: how many games will Kareem Hunt play for the Browns
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Speaker 1: this season? I'm gonna say six. I think he'll be
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Speaker 1: suspended for eight. I think it's gonna be tough for
21:14
Speaker 1: the league to have him not have a a away
21:19
Speaker 1: lane suspense. I mean, I think it's gonna have to
21:21
Speaker 1: be a heavy hit type of suspension to get even
21:25
Speaker 1: close to not taking the pr hit that they're gonna
21:27
Speaker 1: te I They're gonna take pry no matter what. But
21:29
Speaker 1: so I think he probably gets spend it for eight games,
21:32
Speaker 1: and then let's say he gets you know, injured for
21:35
Speaker 1: two so sick. John Dorsey knows him drafted in the
21:38
Speaker 1: Kansas City. Um, I'm just say none. I'm gonna say,
21:42
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes these things happen. They sign a guy,
21:44
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the suspension is eight to ten games
21:47
Speaker 1: and he doesn't see the field, and you got don't
21:51
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Speaker 1: in February, Brian and John look at the Triumphants Zone
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Speaker 1: and here we go. We'll start with Mac from Jacksonville
24:33
Speaker 1: talking about yesterday's big news. Mac writes, I think there's
24:36
Speaker 1: a chance Kyler Murray turns out to be the electric
24:39
Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL. I think there's a greater chance
24:41
Speaker 1: he's a complete bust. I don't think there's any in between.
24:44
Speaker 1: That being said, let's roll the dice and draft him.
24:46
Speaker 1: Why not? Well, I think this kind of question comes
24:49
Speaker 1: and I's got a text from a buddy of mine. Uh,
24:53
Speaker 1: the scene hasn't drafted a good quarterback in twenty five years.
24:55
Speaker 1: You know, how are you're gonna draft a good one now?
24:58
Speaker 1: And it's kind of like Kansas and I get that,
25:02
Speaker 1: But what has happened in the first years of draft
25:06
Speaker 1: and franchise should cannot have any bearing on what they do.
25:11
Speaker 1: You can't think that way. Uh. And however, if there
25:15
Speaker 1: is a guy there. It belongs there, and they probably
25:19
Speaker 1: know right now whether they like the guy or whether
25:22
Speaker 1: they're going to get full right the why not there,
25:26
Speaker 1: they don't need to wait. The tone of that question
25:29
Speaker 1: is a what can it hurt? We've been bad for
25:34
Speaker 1: so long? Roll the dice kind of question. They can't
25:37
Speaker 1: afford that, and that's not how you go into the draft.
25:40
Speaker 1: The reason you don't do it that way. The question
25:42
Speaker 1: was why not? The reason why not is when you
25:45
Speaker 1: look at the draft over the course of time, you
25:47
Speaker 1: must play it as a percentage game, and you must
25:50
Speaker 1: draft the players that you think give you the highest
25:53
Speaker 1: chance to succeed. And generally speaking, uh, you are better
25:57
Speaker 1: off hitting triples than home runs. Uh. And I get
26:00
Speaker 1: there are people are gonna say, well, I want a
26:02
Speaker 1: home rung. Well that's great, but you must give yourself
26:06
Speaker 1: a chance to succeed when you're in the top ten.
26:09
Speaker 1: And if there's part of you that thinks this kid
26:11
Speaker 1: is going to be a bust, then you have to
26:13
Speaker 1: trust that feeling and go away from it. That's the
26:15
Speaker 1: why not. There's all sorts trade why you would Uh, well,
26:20
Speaker 1: m is not the only option seven, I agree, But
26:22
Speaker 1: if you like him and he's good. Right, So oh,
26:26
Speaker 1: I see right? Trade value for the pick? Correct? Yeah,
26:30
Speaker 1: I think they're staying at seven and picking the best
26:32
Speaker 1: quarterback he's there. That's my gut feeling what they're gonna do.
26:35
Speaker 1: But does that mean you don't think they'll go draft
26:37
Speaker 1: for or go send Folds? Uh? Well, that's with the
26:42
Speaker 1: caveat they don't sign Fold. If they go into the
26:44
Speaker 1: draft wanting needing quarterback, I would be surprised if they
26:49
Speaker 1: give up very much to trade up. Here's the thing,
26:51
Speaker 1: you know, they have evaluated these guys. They probably did
26:54
Speaker 1: the evaluation like every other NFL team on Kyler Murray already,
26:57
Speaker 1: not in depth. They know what their plan is. They
27:00
Speaker 1: know they know right now with their planets. They're not
27:02
Speaker 1: still guessing. We are the ones that are doing that
27:05
Speaker 1: are yes from Jacksonville. Hey, oh, what do you think
27:07
Speaker 1: about the kind of dissension Leonard for Nette could cause
27:09
Speaker 1: among fellow teammates after last year's fight during a game
27:12
Speaker 1: argument with a fan. I'll cut you off. This is basically,
27:15
Speaker 1: do I think for Net's gonna be dumped? No? I
27:17
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be traded. Uh No, And I think
27:21
Speaker 1: that went away with the meeting, and you know, should
27:25
Speaker 1: he be should he be back with the team. Uh,
27:28
Speaker 1: you know, I think there's a major question on that.
27:31
Speaker 1: You know, I with the way he was last year,
27:35
Speaker 1: if he carries that forward, it's a problem. But at
27:39
Speaker 1: this point the question is do I think he'll be
27:41
Speaker 1: traded or dumped at this point, No, because I think
27:45
Speaker 1: they have to believe that they can get something out
27:47
Speaker 1: of that. Mainly, I think they must believe that his
27:52
Speaker 1: value to them, his potential value on the field, outweighs
27:56
Speaker 1: whatever they might get in return for him, and they
27:59
Speaker 1: don't want to just take a loss on that. They
28:00
Speaker 1: have to hope. Final one Alex from Orlando. Do you
28:03
Speaker 1: expect the front office to ask quarterbacks at the combine
28:06
Speaker 1: if they are natural throwers of the football. Well, again,
28:09
Speaker 1: this goes back to Blake Bortles and all naturally those
28:12
Speaker 1: football thing and um, you know, the way I would
28:16
Speaker 1: answer the question is this, you can't go and I
28:20
Speaker 1: get the natural throw of the football thing. I get
28:22
Speaker 1: the ill feeling about Blake that some people will always have.
28:29
Speaker 1: I don't think you can go into a draft thinking
28:33
Speaker 1: we can't repeat X mistake X mistake on a specific
28:38
Speaker 1: like that you have to go. You have to evaluate,
28:41
Speaker 1: You have to make your best pick. You can't look back. Uh, Now,
28:47
Speaker 1: do you want to make sure that you don't draft
28:51
Speaker 1: a guy who has major, major mechanical flaws? Perhaps that
28:56
Speaker 1: could rise up on the list, but you wouldn't ask
28:59
Speaker 1: a question like that. You could steer away the mechanical flaws.
29:02
Speaker 1: But you can't worry about the mistake you made last time.
29:06
Speaker 1: As you know, Brian, you can evaluate everything about a
29:10
Speaker 1: quarterback correctly and he's still not work out. A lot
29:13
Speaker 1: of it is how you develop circumstances beyond your control.
29:18
Speaker 1: You must evaluate, take the guy that you pick best,
29:22
Speaker 1: and then go do it, act and develop it. By
29:24
Speaker 1: the way, the guys that I've seen so far, the
29:26
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins, the Drew locks, Cotta, Murray, Daniel Jones, they
29:30
Speaker 1: all look like natural throwers of the pure. Yeah. Sure
29:32
Speaker 1: you have to ask that question this year anyway, right,
29:34
Speaker 1: But I get the point of the question. Yes, you
29:37
Speaker 1: have to avoid that. But again, you can't be so
29:40
Speaker 1: obsessed with we can't have that again that you don't
29:44
Speaker 1: keep your eye on what's forward. So I don't think
29:47
Speaker 1: they'll approach it that way, Although I do understand the
29:49
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29:51
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Speaker 1: Let's start with top tweet New Merrow un Kyler Murray
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Speaker 1: Pro Day start of free Agency, Gil Brandt. If you
31:53
Speaker 1: have one day to take off of work, put it in. Now,
31:58
Speaker 1: that's a week, good day. A What you wonder is
32:02
Speaker 1: the wisdom of putting that day as your pro day
32:06
Speaker 1: because a lot of gms will be uh focused on
32:10
Speaker 1: something else. Yeah, focused on on recruiting, which is part
32:14
Speaker 1: of the pro day, which part of the freedency day process.
32:17
Speaker 1: It won't hurt him, but I would guess it would.
32:21
Speaker 1: It would keep attendance down among the you know, the
32:25
Speaker 1: list of gms and head coaches that every kind of
32:27
Speaker 1: looks for in a pro day story might be lower
32:30
Speaker 1: than otherwise. I'm assuming that Kyle Kyler Murray is going
32:33
Speaker 1: to have a lot of one on one workouts that
32:36
Speaker 1: there will be ten places that he visits to work out. Yeah,
32:40
Speaker 1: maybe maybe more than any other player. I don't know
32:43
Speaker 1: what my plans are. I mean, he maybe I'm gonna
32:45
Speaker 1: go through them. I'm gonna I'm gonna go to everything there.
32:48
Speaker 1: If you throwed like him, if you throw like him right,
32:50
Speaker 1: or if you throw like him, I throw the combine absolutely.
32:54
Speaker 1: I thro every chance I get, especially if I'm trying
32:56
Speaker 1: to assuage these gms in their in their thoughts about
33:00
Speaker 1: whether or not I'm going to be a baseball player.
33:03
Speaker 1: My guests as he will. Okay, onto the next one.
33:08
Speaker 1: How about this bishop Kenny's own John Wolford four touchdown
33:14
Speaker 1: passes for the Arizona hot Shots. That's reason number two.
33:18
Speaker 1: I'm watching the a F this weekend. Watch old Johnny w.
33:22
Speaker 1: Congrats to the Pride of Kenny. Good for him and
33:25
Speaker 1: Joey d from Jacksonville. I wonder Jay Sala. I would
33:30
Speaker 1: have thought that he played at Central Florida, but he
33:32
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33:41
Speaker 1: goes there. I know it's one reason you've ascended to
33:43
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33:49
Speaker 1: moving right along. How about this one day tona five hundred?
33:57
Speaker 1: Yes it is? And oh no, I remember what we're
34:00
Speaker 1: doing this one? Um, yeah, you're drifting. No, and Max
34:05
Speaker 1: just got in my ears just as I was about
34:06
Speaker 1: to say his number. Miles Jack is going to the
34:09
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34:14
Speaker 1: be a cool story about the jaguars and the date
34:18
Speaker 1: und next week. Let's refraind that a little bit Miles
34:21
Speaker 1: and Max aren't going to hang out that they are.
34:25
Speaker 1: That's Miles isn't as cool as you think he is. Obviously,
34:28
Speaker 1: well maybe he's much cooler than I thought. It's a
34:33
Speaker 1: who hasn't gone is a it's a spectacle of that
34:36
Speaker 1: people in this area. You know, it's it's cool to
34:39
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34:42
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34:49
Speaker 1: a good time. I covered a couple uh Pat and
34:51
Speaker 1: I did it together when I worked at the television station,
34:53
Speaker 1: so I enjoyed it. I did not like to drive home,
34:56
Speaker 1: but apparently if you have somebody to drive you, it's
34:58
Speaker 1: a great ride. Oh leave at the wrong time, It's yeah,
35:01
Speaker 1: I did, Yeah, absolutely, all right, you have to go
35:04
Speaker 1: up US one. Sometimes you have to kind of know
35:07
Speaker 1: the trick. I didn't when I want, I knew as
35:09
Speaker 1: bad he's ever rated. So Miles, Max, and JP will
35:13
Speaker 1: be reporting from Daytona. It should be fun. That's just
35:18
Speaker 1: I don't normally do the top tweet. Max and Miles
35:20
Speaker 1: are together. Max and Miles, okay, alert security. Max might
35:25
Speaker 1: be growing in his popularity in that locker room. I mean,
35:28
Speaker 1: maybe Jalen maybe fighting to get him back. I think
35:30
Speaker 1: it's great that Max gets top billing in that duo
35:33
Speaker 1: Max and Miles. It's alphabetical. Max had a pretty good here,
35:38
Speaker 1: pretty good? Here are you giving Max credit? Max? I'm
35:42
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35:44
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