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- 0:36Speaker 2: Ryan, what's going on, brother?
- 0:38Speaker 1: What's going on, Brett? How's everybody doing in Broncos country
- 0:42Speaker 1: after being six and two and number one?
- 0:45Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you this, Ryan.
- 0:47Speaker 3: This is absolutely remarkable. I think it's only happened one
- 0:51Speaker 3: other time in NFL history. The Broncos have won 15
- 0:56Speaker 3: consecutive one-score games.
- 0:59Speaker 4: How?
- 1:00Speaker 1: By being relentless. And I'm sorry, let me back that up. Defense,
- 1:05Speaker 1: number one. I mean, guys, four straight plays against the
- 1:09Speaker 1: number one quarterback, arguably number one running back, and you
- 1:13Speaker 1: don't let them sniff? You don't even, they can't get
- 1:17Speaker 1: a yard. I mean, it drove, you should have been
- 1:19Speaker 1: there and seen on the sidelines. Andy Reid was going nuts.
- 1:22Speaker 1: He couldn't believe it. And so this defense has propelled
- 1:25Speaker 1: this team throughout the year. And then it's the resilience.
- 1:29Speaker 1: Bo wasn't listening to you. Bo didn't care when people
- 1:34Speaker 1: thought he should be benched. Bo did the things necessary.
- 1:37Speaker 1: And hats off to Sean Payton for keeping the noise
- 1:40Speaker 1: out of the locker room and just sticking to the plan.
- 1:42Speaker 1: They've done this before, fellas. We got to believe them.
- 1:47Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're right, Ryan. I look around the
- 1:49Speaker 4: league and I look at defenses. And Jeff Legwald, you know,
- 1:53Speaker 4: he made a very good point a couple of weeks ago.
- 1:56Speaker 4: Right now the Broncos overall in terms of yards per game,
- 1:59Speaker 4: it ain't good. They're in the mid-upper 20s. But, boy,
- 2:04Speaker 4: when they need a play, Ryan, when they need a stop,
- 2:06Speaker 4: when they need somebody to– and that's the key in football.
- 2:10Speaker 4: You can do this and do that. But if you
- 2:11Speaker 4: make a play– I'm sure on the sidelines a million
- 2:14Speaker 4: times you've said, hey, man, somebody just go make a
- 2:17Speaker 4: frigging play. Well, they seem to always make the frigging play.
- 2:21Speaker 1: Well, and they also have the confidence that they can
- 2:23Speaker 1: make the play. Everybody says, hey, I want to make
- 2:25Speaker 1: the play. You know, Brett Cain's night before the game saying, hey,
- 2:28Speaker 1: I want the ball.
- 2:29Speaker 2: Throw me.
- 2:29Speaker 1: I'm going to be open in that red zone three
- 2:31Speaker 1: jet smack. And at the same time, you need 11
- 2:33Speaker 1: guys feeling like that. I mean, look no further than
- 2:36Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs lineman, number 65, catching that ball,
- 2:39Speaker 1: trying to tug that thing to the goal line at
- 2:40Speaker 1: the end, right? Like, you need that kind of mentality.
- 2:45Speaker 1: And even then, even when he caught the ball, what
- 2:47Speaker 1: I love most, to illustrate what you're talking about most,
- 2:50Speaker 1: is how many, you had two tacklers keep him out
- 2:52Speaker 1: of the end zone even though it was an illegal play.
- 2:55Speaker 1: That's what we're talking about. I mean, it doesn't matter
- 2:58Speaker 1: what happens. They're just going to play ball. And you're
- 3:01Speaker 1: without Talanoa Hufanga. You lost Brandon Jones. For God's sakes,
- 3:05Speaker 1: you haven't had your start in secondary since week one, right?
- 3:08Speaker 1: I mean, this is unbelievable, and we have to start
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- 3:25Speaker 3: Turn to the experts. So, Ryan, big conversation heading into
- 3:29Speaker 3: the game on Sunday. Now heading into this week, we're
- 3:31Speaker 3: a week away from the trade deadline. The Broncos are
- 3:33Speaker 3: rumored to be in the conversation of trying to acquire
- 3:36Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor.
- 3:37Speaker 2: I'm a Jonah Coleman guy. I like him.
- 3:40Speaker 3: But if you can get a top five back in
- 3:41Speaker 3: the league, I think that there's very few expenses high
- 3:46Speaker 3: enough for you to go out and do that, especially
- 3:48Speaker 3: for an offense that, look, They make the plays they
- 3:51Speaker 3: need to to win games. You could make it a
- 3:53Speaker 3: lot more comfortable with a back like Jonathan Taylor. What
- 3:56Speaker 3: do you think just overall about the potential acquisition of
- 3:59Speaker 3: a guy like that?
- 4:00Speaker 1: Well, I have questions about where John Taylor's at this year.
- 4:03Speaker 1: And I know last year he had a really great,
- 4:05Speaker 1: excellent year. He looked like he got younger, right? But
- 4:09Speaker 1: I don't think you need him. I really don't. Is
- 4:13Speaker 1: it the quality of running back that's prevented more runs? No. Right.
- 4:18Speaker 1: It's calling the run. It's being, I mean, even in
- 4:21Speaker 1: the game in the third quarter last week, you had
- 4:23Speaker 1: two third quarter drives that were three and outs. And
- 4:27Speaker 1: the majority of those plays were passes. Right. So to me,
- 4:30Speaker 1: it's let Jonah Coleman cook. I mean, let Coleman cook. Yeah.
- 4:34Speaker 1: Use three word tags to stick in people's mind. And
- 4:37Speaker 1: at the same time, think about the chemistry that's being built.
- 4:40Speaker 1: Now you bring in Jonathan Taylor. What's he going to do?
- 4:42Speaker 1: Come in and say, Hey, I'm here to win a Superbowl.
- 4:43Speaker 1: Join the party, bud.
- 4:45Speaker 2: Right.
- 4:45Speaker 1: And, At the same time, I will say this, though, Brett,
- 4:49Speaker 1: and I love all players. I think there's an issue
- 4:52Speaker 1: with with J.K. Dobbins here. It's a it's a little,
- 4:56Speaker 1: you know, the whole thing with Cliss and shout out
- 4:58Speaker 1: to Clissy Poo for rattling off each run that he had.
- 5:02Speaker 1: But like, that's the kind of energy you don't need. Right.
- 5:05Speaker 1: So if that's more of the play, just to kind
- 5:07Speaker 1: of get the locker room tightened down chemistry-wise, they really
- 5:11Speaker 1: got to know a lot about Jonathan Taylor.
- 5:13Speaker 3: Just real quick here, Moshe, let me jump in because
- 5:15Speaker 3: there's something about J.K. that I was so excited to
- 5:21Speaker 3: watch what he was going to do this past weekend
- 5:23Speaker 3: against the Chiefs, considering that back and forth.
- 5:25Speaker 4: And R.J.
- 5:26Speaker 2: Harvey gets put on the shelf.
- 5:27Speaker 3: He's on IR, which means his touches are going to
- 5:29Speaker 3: go back up again. And I was like, he's going
- 5:31Speaker 3: to come in there fired up. Seven carries for 13 yards.
- 5:34Speaker 3: I think that he just might be at that point
- 5:38Speaker 3: in his career where maybe he just doesn't have what
- 5:40Speaker 3: he used to have anymore.
- 5:42Speaker 1: Or he needs a shakeup, right? And at the end
- 5:44Speaker 1: of the day, to me, what does it look like
- 5:46Speaker 1: on the field? You said it, seven carries, 13 yards.
- 5:49Speaker 1: How did it look when Jonah Coleman had the ball?
- 5:51Speaker 1: And Jonah Coleman, I'm telling you guys, he's got some
- 5:54Speaker 1: Camara wiggle to him. He can catch the ball. I mean,
- 5:57Speaker 1: when you watch some of his highlights, he's so low
- 5:59Speaker 1: to the ground when he gets through the line of scrimmage.
- 6:01Speaker 1: It's amazing. Now, can he hold up for what's going
- 6:05Speaker 1: to end up being another 11 games, hopefully, right? I mean,
- 6:09Speaker 1: I don't know. J.K. Dobbins, you know, can hold up.
- 6:12Speaker 1: But there's something that J.K. 's not seeing, or maybe
- 6:14Speaker 1: he's a little upset that he is at that point
- 6:17Speaker 1: in his career that But you've got to be a
- 6:19Speaker 1: consummate teammate. And I just think there's a little bit
- 6:24Speaker 1: of a chemistry issue there. And I feel like we
- 6:26Speaker 1: can all see it. Yeah, I think you're right about that.
- 6:30Speaker 4: Listen, you're an excellent speaker. If you're holding a seminar
- 6:33Speaker 4: and you've got a PowerPoint presentation going on, you could
- 6:36Speaker 4: talk me into your theory right here.
- 6:38Speaker 1: I'd say, you know what?
- 6:39Speaker 4: Ryan Harris is right. But let me say this. When
- 6:42Speaker 4: you've got a quarterback on a rookie deal– and you
- 6:46Speaker 4: got a chance to get a special back. It's tough
- 6:49Speaker 4: for me, Ryan, to put the rest of my season
- 6:50Speaker 4: in terms of carrying the rock because Harvey's out. We've
- 6:53Speaker 4: seen J.K. to put it on a rookie, and he
- 6:55Speaker 4: may be fully capable. But when you get a chance
- 6:58Speaker 4: to get a special back, don't you want to strike
- 7:00Speaker 4: while the iron is hot with a team that's capable
- 7:02Speaker 4: of winning a Super Bowl now?
- 7:05Speaker 1: You do. You do. But I think my big point
- 7:07Speaker 1: is if you do, that means J.K. Dobbins is gone.
- 7:10Speaker 1: If you get Jonathan Taylor, then J.K. Dobbins has to
- 7:14Speaker 1: be a part of that deal.
- 7:15Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 7:16Speaker 1: Because you add Jonathan Taylor and Jonah Coleman to the
- 7:20Speaker 1: backfield with J.K. Dobbins. We're only going to get more
- 7:22Speaker 1: of this, and it's a distraction, guys. Is he upset
- 7:25Speaker 1: that he's not getting more touches?
- 7:26Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 7:26Speaker 1: What he's really upset about is it's not looking the
- 7:28Speaker 1: same for him.
- 7:29Speaker 4: Yes.
- 7:30Speaker 1: That when the same plays are being called, Jonah Coleman's
- 7:32Speaker 1: getting yards and he's not. So I just think I
- 7:35Speaker 1: agree with you. If you can get Jonathan Taylor, excellent.
- 7:38Speaker 1: Don't think that he's the piece you need. You have
- 7:40Speaker 1: the pieces you need. It starts on your defense. All,
- 7:42Speaker 1: what is it, 15 of them now? 17 of them now?
- 7:46Speaker 1: But he is a part of a bigger package where
- 7:48Speaker 1: you got to also make a locker room fit. And
- 7:50Speaker 1: I think J.K. Dobbins, man, it's just, we don't need you, bud.
- 7:54Speaker 1: We don't need you.
- 7:55Speaker 3: Ryan Harris with us, as he is every single week.
- 7:58Speaker 3: The other incredible stats we already talked about, they've won
- 8:01Speaker 3: 15 consecutive one-score games. The Broncos at home over the
- 8:06Speaker 3: last two and a half years, it's been remarkable. I
- 8:08Speaker 3: think they're now, is it 16-1 in the last.
- 8:11Speaker 2: 17 regular season?
- 8:13Speaker 4: 17-1.
- 8:13Speaker 2: 17-1 in the last 18 regular season home games.
- 8:16Speaker 4: Wow.
- 8:16Speaker 3: What do you attribute that to? Is that just the environment,
- 8:19Speaker 3: the crowd? Is that comfortability playing at home?
- 8:22Speaker 2: Is it altitude? Is it all of it?
- 8:23Speaker 4: What is it?
- 8:24Speaker 1: It's all of it in Broncos country. What a game.
- 8:27Speaker 1: You got a shout out in the press conference from
- 8:29Speaker 1: Coach Payton. I mean, no other fan base did this year.
- 8:32Speaker 1: I haven't heard that this year, let alone this week.
- 8:36Speaker 1: But it's a huge part of it's the fans. Guys,
- 8:38Speaker 1: Mile High is the only place when you fans shake
- 8:41Speaker 1: and stomp the ground, the face masks rattle on the field.
- 8:43Speaker 1: It affects people. It worked on the second to last play, right? Yeah,
- 8:47Speaker 1: false start.
- 8:48Speaker 4: Yep.
- 8:49Speaker 1: But it is also the training camp. Coach Payton... has
- 8:53Speaker 1: these guys comfortable in discomfort. And not only that, they're resilient.
- 8:58Speaker 1: There is nothing or there is no score where this
- 9:01Speaker 1: team believes they're going to lose. That is amazing. And
- 9:04Speaker 1: it's forged through brutal days of training camp. When I
- 9:08Speaker 1: look at you, Brett and Moses, I can't even do it.
- 9:10Speaker 1: I can't. I mean, I had a teammate used to say,
- 9:12Speaker 1: my mind's telling me no, but my body's telling me yeah.
- 9:16Speaker 1: Like you got to get yourself in there. But with
- 9:18Speaker 1: that physical training camp that we all saw, now the
- 9:21Speaker 1: season's easy. Now you're going into week nine, you're number one,
- 9:26Speaker 1: and they expected to be here. Was it pretty all
- 9:28Speaker 1: the time? You bet your booty it wasn't. But they
- 9:32Speaker 1: were able to build that resilience, and it starts in
- 9:34Speaker 1: training camp, guys. I'm telling you. And, Mose, you saw
- 9:36Speaker 1: it the year the Avs won the Woodland Cup. In
- 9:38Speaker 1: training camp, you could tell it was different.
- 9:42Speaker 4: 100%. But my mind is getting blown on a weekly basis, Ryan.
- 9:45Speaker 4: They've got a four-game win streak going on. Third, all
- 9:50Speaker 4: the metrics that say that you shouldn't be doing this
- 9:52Speaker 4: are out there. You're a nine of 48 on third
- 9:55Speaker 4: down conversions in that time. You've lost by a mile.
- 10:00Speaker 1: You've had nine third downs completed in the last four games.
- 10:03Speaker 1: That's insane. That's insane.
- 10:06Speaker 4: And you're, you're consistently losing the time of possession. You're
- 10:09Speaker 4: consistently being out gained. It's just crazy, Ryan, that this is,
- 10:15Speaker 4: this is the, either the stats that smack you in
- 10:17Speaker 4: the face or But then the reality is you're winning
- 10:20Speaker 4: games and reality is telling the other reality, hey, bug off.
- 10:23Speaker 4: I mean, you don't matter. These metrics don't matter because
- 10:27Speaker 4: we're still going to win. And that fourth quarter, they've
- 10:29Speaker 4: been the best team.
- 10:30Speaker 1: It's crazy. Well, stats are for losers. Let's be clear.
- 10:34Speaker 1: Stats are for losers. And I understand it's a great
- 10:36Speaker 1: way to sound like you know the game. But let
- 10:38Speaker 1: me tell you a stat about a seventh round pick
- 10:41Speaker 1: quarterback who won seven Super Bowls. Is that against the numbers? Right?
- 10:46Speaker 1: I mean, so you can get into the numbers all
- 10:49Speaker 1: you want. Guys, I really learned this. Mike McDaniels is
- 10:51Speaker 1: our coach. We were losing. And he comes in and
- 10:53Speaker 1: he goes, guys, we're the best running team in the
- 10:56Speaker 1: NFL on third and four or less. I'm like, what
- 10:59Speaker 1: kind of stat is that? Who pulls that out, right?
- 11:02Speaker 1: It's like the QBR. What are we talking about here?
- 11:04Speaker 1: We're talking about wins. And the Broncos are number one
- 11:08Speaker 1: in the AFC West at winning. And you know what?
- 11:10Speaker 1: They're pushing for number one in the AFC. And let
- 11:12Speaker 1: me tell you what. That's going to be important because
- 11:14Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is a problem. Yeah. He's cooking with grease.
- 11:21Speaker 4: Josh Allen is a problem, too. I've been watching. I mean,
- 11:24Speaker 4: we know what.
- 11:25Speaker 1: They've dealt with him before. They've dealt with him before.
- 11:28Speaker 1: They're not afraid of the big, bad bills. Watch on Christmas.
- 11:31Speaker 4: I understand. But it's hard to kick the big fella
- 11:35Speaker 4: down multiple times in a row. It's hard.
- 11:37Speaker 3: Let me ask this to you, Ryan, as we let
- 11:39Speaker 3: you go. You have a bias. I mean, you're biased
- 11:43Speaker 3: towards the Broncos. You love the Broncos.
- 11:45Speaker 2: No, he's not.
- 11:46Speaker 4: You also have a bias.
- 11:47Speaker 3: We all have biases. You also have a bias towards
- 11:49Speaker 3: offensive linemen in general. If you were called for that
- 11:52Speaker 3: false start, what do you think?
- 11:55Speaker 1: It was a great veteran move to try and hide it. Exactly.
- 11:59Speaker 1: He was trying to hide it. So that's a wily vet, right?
- 12:02Speaker 1: If you jump, make it look like you didn't jump, right?
- 12:05Speaker 2: I know, I was just looking at the scale. No, no,
- 12:07Speaker 2: I was looking at it.
- 12:08Speaker 1: We had to jump. But first of all.
- 12:10Speaker 3: So it was a false start, but it was a
- 12:13Speaker 3: vet move of like, I'm going to try.
- 12:15Speaker 2: And throw that off like I was just looking.
- 12:17Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 12:17Speaker 1: Yeah. And you'll see it all the time. Now, look,
- 12:20Speaker 1: you forgot one thing I am biased about too, Brett K,
- 12:22Speaker 1: and that's winning. OK, I'm biased towards winning. I'm biased
- 12:26Speaker 1: towards things that create success. OK, but no, that was
- 12:30Speaker 1: absolutely a false start. And I felt bad, you know,
- 12:33Speaker 1: brutal because I mean, I was I was watching the
- 12:35Speaker 1: game there with my son. Thanks to the Broncos. And man,
- 12:38Speaker 1: when they caught that ball, everybody went dead quiet and
- 12:41Speaker 1: looked at the clock. Zero seconds. Then there was a flag.
- 12:45Speaker 1: I mean, it was the most insane ending. And at
- 12:48Speaker 1: the same time, if the Broncos score in one of
- 12:50Speaker 1: those drives early in the third quarter, they win the game.
- 12:53Speaker 4: Yes.
- 12:53Speaker 1: And I'll also tell you something else. 19 seconds left
- 12:56Speaker 1: and two timeouts, you go score the football. What are
- 12:59Speaker 1: you doing taking a knee? Like that to me is
- 13:02Speaker 1: the next piece. Peyton, and you can go back. When
- 13:05Speaker 1: we were at Detroit the year we won the Super Bowl,
- 13:06Speaker 1: we had literally 19 seconds left. Peyton Manning said we're
- 13:09Speaker 1: scoring a touchdown in the huddle, and we did. Like
- 13:11Speaker 1: you got to take advantage of that. That would have
- 13:13Speaker 1: been a two for one, and that's where to me,
- 13:16Speaker 1: that middle eight we call it in the NFL, those
- 13:18Speaker 1: looks that win, Brett. That middle eight, the last four
- 13:21Speaker 1: minutes of the second quarter and that first four minutes
- 13:24Speaker 1: of the third quarter.
- 13:26Speaker 4: What a good point because you're also getting the ball
- 13:27Speaker 4: to start the third, right? Yeah.
- 13:30Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 13:31Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 13:31Speaker 4: Excellent.
- 13:32Speaker 1: Don't ever go to, don't against the number one quarterback
- 13:35Speaker 1: and a division rival. Don't ever take two timeouts into
- 13:38Speaker 1: the huddle and into the locker room. I don't care
- 13:40Speaker 1: when it is.
- 13:41Speaker 3: Ryan Harris joined us every single week. Always appreciate it, Ryan.
- 13:44Speaker 3: Thanks for the time, buddy.
- 13:45Speaker 1: Love you boys. Go Broncos. Go abs.
- 13:47Speaker 4: Go.
- 13:47Speaker 1: There you go.
- 13:48Speaker 2: Ryan Harris joined us every week.
- 13:50Speaker 3: Um, He is so right about this, though, because I
- 13:53Speaker 3: saw so many Chiefs fans talking about it.
- 13:55Speaker 2: It wasn't a false story. It was like, hell, Andy
- 13:56Speaker 2: Reid said it. And I'm like, we can all tell.
- 13:59Speaker 4: Yeah, but he tried to sell it by looking to
- 14:02Speaker 4: his left down the line, right? Like, you know, he did.
- 14:05Speaker 2: Smart move.
- 14:07Speaker 1: Didn't work.