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Episode 6.37: Navigating the Portal, New York Bound · Return to Glory - Nebraska

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  Speaker 1: Return to Glory podcast Hunter. Sorry, Austin Rose Dakota free
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's us. We finally made it.
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  Speaker 1: That's coming right off the heel of the breaking news
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  Speaker 1: that Dylan Royola is rumored to go to Miami, but
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  Speaker 1: that is noe longer true, as he confirms his commitment
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  Speaker 1: to Nebraska by being all in dak probably didn't see
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  Speaker 1: that far. He still thinks he's going to Miami.
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  Speaker 3: So I was going to text earlier and say I
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  Speaker 3: saw tweet things going to Miami, but then I saw
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  Speaker 3: Miami reporters tweeting that, so I'm like, okay, probably not true,
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  Speaker 3: which ended up being that true.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, now it's the maybe it's the portal, it's
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  Speaker 4: what we love.
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  Speaker 3: I checked my sources. Now after what happened with Macouy Coleman.
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  Speaker 1: You're right, but you were right on that. Yeah, in
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  Speaker 1: the long run, there are I don't know. Twitter's great
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  Speaker 1: for purposes of getting news. I guess that's kind of
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  Speaker 1: what my Twitter is based off of his Husker football.
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  Speaker 1: But at the same time, especially now, you just gotta
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  Speaker 1: be careful, and you gotta still take it with a
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  Speaker 1: grain of salt and still take have the ability to
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  Speaker 1: form your own opinions and not just soak up what
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  Speaker 1: everybody's telling you.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know where how did those rumors start?
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  Speaker 1: Some National Beat reporter or something from the ACC or
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  Speaker 1: something like that said he heard some rumor, and then
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  Speaker 1: some Husker people reported on it that said quoted it
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  Speaker 1: basically it said they said that, and then it kind
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  Speaker 1: of blew up in like two hours in Rayolas, like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I gotta shut this up. And it's kind of a pain,
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  Speaker 1: I'll be honest, But that's the world we live in, guys.
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  Speaker 1: That is that is this crazy social media?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I missed the whole part where he was going
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  Speaker 4: to Miami, and I just saw that I'm in and
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  Speaker 4: then I headed backtrack and be like, okay, what's the all,
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  Speaker 4: Like why is he posting this?
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  Speaker 2: And then I found all the Miami's.
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  Speaker 3: Stuff I saw. I saw no facts of anything about
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  Speaker 3: the Miami thing, though. I think someone just stripped to
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  Speaker 3: you that, like, screw it on, just gonna throw some
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  Speaker 3: things out there.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, the rumor is too like that he
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  Speaker 1: was visiting his family in Georgia, or he was he
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  Speaker 1: was visiting his family in Georgia, but that he was
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  Speaker 1: basically back home re evaluating the portal, and in reality,
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  Speaker 1: he was just back watching his brother play in the playoffs,
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  Speaker 1: Like that was it. So I just I just think people, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: people like the clicks. That's what they're after. That's what
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  Speaker 1: social media is always after, which is a big negative
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to social media. I just it sucks.
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  Speaker 1: So you just gotta be careful, is bottom line, especially
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  Speaker 1: in today's world where we're at with the transfer portal
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  Speaker 1: and an il and everything that comes with it, which
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  Speaker 1: is a large part what we're going to talk about
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  Speaker 1: today because that's the swirling news of college football, along
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  Speaker 1: with the playoffs being announced, which we'll get to. So
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  Speaker 1: I want to start off the conversation with the transfer
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  Speaker 1: portal by saying and echoing a little bit of what
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  Speaker 1: Rule has said about the portal, and he explained that
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  Speaker 1: it's a changing world, a new world that we're living
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  Speaker 1: in right now. And I think that's true, like very
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  Speaker 1: very true. How I want to talk about the transfer
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  Speaker 1: portal is three things. What do we actually know? Like
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  Speaker 1: what are the facts with everything that's going on what
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  Speaker 1: don't we know, because there's a lot that we just
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  Speaker 1: don't know. And then what's the future, what's to be
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  Speaker 1: determined with this portal and how this is going to
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  Speaker 1: work in our thoughts on what it could develop into.
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  Speaker 1: Here's what we know so far, and I don't I
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  Speaker 1: actually was going to figure out all these dates and
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  Speaker 1: when it opens and closes, because I'll be honest, as
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  Speaker 1: a like casual fan. Two, I guess I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 1: called as casual, but as a fan, I don't really
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  Speaker 1: know what the dates and what the rules are with
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  Speaker 1: a lot of it. I don't think anybody does. I
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  Speaker 1: think the media a lot of them don't either. But
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  Speaker 1: what we know, we've lost a lot of guys in
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  Speaker 1: the portal, A lot of guys in the portal. They
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  Speaker 1: could still come back. One of them did. Here we go.
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  Speaker 1: Here's what we know, and we knew this a little
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  Speaker 1: bit last week. But I'm throwing coaches in the portal too.
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  Speaker 1: But Tony White and Terrence knighton or State gone. Evan
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  Speaker 1: Cooper was already gone, but he's joining them too. Interesting
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  Speaker 1: Here's what goes also goes out from the defensive side
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  Speaker 1: of the ball, Stefan Thompson, junior linebacker, Jamari Butler, junior edge,
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  Speaker 1: Mackai Bayer, junior linebacker, James Williams, sophomore edge, Brody Tagaloa
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  Speaker 1: sophomore D lineman, Vincent Jackson, freshman D lineman. All guys
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  Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball, Sincere Safuliya, Dwight Boodle,
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  Speaker 1: a couple of freshmen Keona Davis, another D lineman just
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  Speaker 1: announced today in the portal. So there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: defensive guys that are testing the waters. We'll say, that's
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  Speaker 1: what we know. We know that's happening. That's a fact.
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  Speaker 1: Those are facts. What else do we know about the portal?
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  Speaker 4: We know that it can also be just used as
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  Speaker 4: a leveraging tool for more money, and that the intention.
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  Speaker 4: I totally like. I never once that Emma Johnson was leaving.
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  Speaker 4: I really didn't unless he was gonna get bookoo bucks
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  Speaker 4: to go somewhere else. It felt like the leverage play.
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  Speaker 4: Why are you gonna leave a school. For the last
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  Speaker 4: two games of the new offensive coordinator, you were probably
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  Speaker 4: the highlighted offensive weapon, if not right behind you know,
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  Speaker 4: one bee behind Jacory.
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  Speaker 2: It felt, you know, So I.
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  Speaker 4: Think that's another thing that a lot of people are
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  Speaker 4: entering the portal just to see what your market value is.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's a smart play.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, hey, what could I get out there now
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  Speaker 4: people know I'm available?
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  Speaker 2: Or if you're at home, hey how much you need
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  Speaker 2: to pay if you're here?
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  Speaker 3: I mean there's there's a big reason why everyone left
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  Speaker 3: because they're the coach left Like that's what happens when
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  Speaker 3: you Usually they follow with the guy with Tony White.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if anyone. I haven't eyone commended it
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  Speaker 3: at for.
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  Speaker 2: State yet No, no, no committed.
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  Speaker 1: Usually what happens, which I'm surprised a couple that have
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  Speaker 1: narrowed down, but the portal, I actually don't think they're
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  Speaker 1: allowed to sign anywhere yet.
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  Speaker 5: I think I don't think that part's even open.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I forgot a big one too, Princewell to him, Yellen,
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  Speaker 1: he's another one that I forgot to say.
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  Speaker 2: He's currently number one on the available transfer.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think there's rules anywhere because all these people
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  Speaker 3: are saying, like all these people are saying, these players
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  Speaker 3: have these uh schools narrowed down like that you can't
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  Speaker 3: talk well, you can't talk schools and quotations like you
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  Speaker 3: know these guys are talking. I don't think the NCAA
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  Speaker 3: is a living thing anymore, Like there's no rules anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Dak, what else do we know about the poor?
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  Speaker 1: Don't get into the don't know you're getting into the
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  Speaker 1: don't know?
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  Speaker 3: Uh you can, I honestly don't know, like nothing.
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  Speaker 4: I know you can play in your bowl game. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: you still play for the team.
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  Speaker 1: So, Dak, let me be clear. I asked you to
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  Speaker 1: come prepare for this question, and you didn't have an
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  Speaker 1: answer for this.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna say you can only enter it twice,
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  Speaker 3: which I think is a rule. Do you know? He said?
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  Speaker 3: I think, I'm sure that's the rule.
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  Speaker 1: Not so what other things I guess that come with
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  Speaker 1: the portal that I guess everybody should know is Yes, Austin,
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  Speaker 1: you made a great point that once you earned the
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  Speaker 1: portal does not mean you're gone. We talked a couple
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  Speaker 1: of weeks ago about why coaches leave to maybe pursue
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  Speaker 1: a new job when it came along with the Tony
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  Speaker 1: White going to Florida State. A lot of those same
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  Speaker 1: reasons do apply to players as they are leaving their
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  Speaker 1: school of choice. Money is a big one. I will
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  Speaker 1: say this. We know that players are entering the portal,
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  Speaker 1: some players, not all of them. Some are entering the
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  Speaker 1: portal just to see what their market value is and
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  Speaker 1: what are their offers they can get. Like that is
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  Speaker 1: happening because there are any rules, hard rules that the
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  Speaker 1: NCAA has for this thing. And with the collectives and
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  Speaker 1: NIL blowing up and schools continuing to being able to
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  Speaker 1: fund these players, and now let's add another elementor to
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  Speaker 1: the new sharing, but the schools, we know that players
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  Speaker 1: want to know how much they're worth.
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  Speaker 5: So that's a big part of this portal.
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  Speaker 1: And I think you have to be careful though, of
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  Speaker 1: justifying that's what everybody's doing, because that's also not true.
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  Speaker 3: Dak.
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  Speaker 1: You said players are left follow their coach. I think
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  Speaker 1: that's also a very big reason why they go, and
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  Speaker 1: that comes with a lot of stuff underneath it. So
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  Speaker 1: all these also, yes, a lot of these defensive players
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  Speaker 1: leaving are big time Terrence Knight and Tony White, guys
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  Speaker 1: that they recruited that are in their pipeline and they
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  Speaker 1: had a good relationship with I don't think that's good
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  Speaker 1: for our football program at all until we decide or
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  Speaker 1: figure out what direction we're moving with this defense, and
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  Speaker 1: we don't know yet. We don't have an answer to that.
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  Speaker 1: So I think portal people enter for a number of reasons.
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  Speaker 1: That's the one part that we don't know, Like, that's
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  Speaker 1: we don't know the exact reason why players do. Emma Johnson,
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  Speaker 1: that was weird, Like when out there, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what that what. I don't know what those two days
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  Speaker 1: are like for him. We don't know what transactions, what
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  Speaker 1: phone calls, what's happening in those two days when you
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  Speaker 1: say I'm going to the portal or hell, let's even
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  Speaker 1: go before that. I've heard that these college athletes are
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  Speaker 1: getting so called agents to help them. I mean, of
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  Speaker 1: course they're going to advise you to go see what
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  Speaker 1: you're worth and what you can do, So why would
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  Speaker 1: you not see it? But you don't know what those
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  Speaker 1: Nobody had a clue, Like I would say even some
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  Speaker 1: of the most well informed college football reporters don't really
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  Speaker 1: know all the details of how these players are interacting
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  Speaker 1: right now with schools and collectives and how.
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  Speaker 5: All that works.
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  Speaker 1: It's still a big mess that still needs to be
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  Speaker 1: sorted out.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, you're right, it is a big mess.
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  Speaker 4: It's I mean, it is what it is. It's kind
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  Speaker 4: of entertaining.
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  Speaker 2: You never know.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, when Davis was announced today, it's like, all right,
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  Speaker 4: why not, sure, let's see how much of a rebuild
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  Speaker 4: we can do on the defensive side. And it isn't
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  Speaker 4: because also you know, all right who Malakai Coleman and
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  Speaker 4: Danny Kalin and that one wide.
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  Speaker 1: Receiver I can't think of his name day On Hall.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, you're right. I haven't gone to the other
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  Speaker 1: side of the ball yet. But those are the four
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  Speaker 1: big guys, that big, big name, big name, bigger named
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  Speaker 1: guys kind that have entered the portal. Here's here's where
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  Speaker 1: there's a whole other side to it is the guys
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  Speaker 1: that you get in and right now, obviously these are
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  Speaker 1: guys entering the portal, not saying they're gone, but they're
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  Speaker 1: entering the portal. The flip side of that is for
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  Speaker 1: months to come. And I heard the Huscar Aline podcast
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  Speaker 1: make a great analogy, so I wanted to. It makes
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  Speaker 1: you think about it differently, but I think it's true.
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  Speaker 1: Your recruiting classes are like the draft, the NFL draft,
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  Speaker 1: or take any sport. They're like the draft. So you're
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  Speaker 1: you are drafting players right your your higher recruits are
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  Speaker 1: kind of like higher draft picks. You're gonna obviously pay
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  Speaker 1: your higher draft picks more in il money. Your three stars,
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  Speaker 1: your two stars guys like that, you're gonna probably pay
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  Speaker 1: them a little less.
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  Speaker 5: But then the transfer portal is like free agency.
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  Speaker 1: So whatever money then you have left, which right now,
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  Speaker 1: when I say with money you have left, there aren't
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  Speaker 1: isn't a money cap left. There's not a cap, so
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  Speaker 1: right now it's open. This is like free agency where
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  Speaker 1: you can just go out and buy players like.
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  Speaker 2: That.
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  Speaker 1: That's what this is.
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  Speaker 4: Once what's going up, it's gonna change once revenue share,
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  Speaker 4: Like there's gonna be contracts, once the university is giving
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  Speaker 4: you some of their revenue, there's gonna be a contract
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  Speaker 4: tied too.
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  Speaker 1: So that gets us to like the last oh one
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  Speaker 1: other thing before we get to that piece, the roster
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  Speaker 1: size of another thing that we do know is dropping
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  Speaker 1: from I'm not I'm gonna miss up with the numbers
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  Speaker 1: one ten to eighty five.
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  Speaker 5: That sounds right something like that.
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  Speaker 4: No, it's dropping to one five, isn't it. Yeah, maybe
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  Speaker 4: like unlimited to one oh five iver one forty five.
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  Speaker 1: The number I remember hearing is that Nebraska's gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to cut basically thirty five to forty players. Is what
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  Speaker 1: When I say cut, I mean they can't be on
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  Speaker 1: your roster. So the walk on program is a big thing.
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  Speaker 1: I also think Husker fans are justifying while these people
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  Speaker 1: are leaving, because Nebraska knows are no people that are
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  Speaker 1: leaving are not players that we have cut. They're not,
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  Speaker 1: they're they're they're well a lot. Let me finish my
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  Speaker 1: let me finish my conversation. Don't there are players that
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  Speaker 1: are would have played valuable minutes coming up? A lot
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  Speaker 1: of these guys were not players. And if we said
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  Speaker 1: to say, hey, we're gonna cut twenty five to thirty players,
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  Speaker 1: chop them off. So I think Husker fans are trying
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  Speaker 1: to justify these players leaving. Well, we got to get
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  Speaker 1: down to the eighty five or the under the limit.
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  Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think that's what's happening right now on
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  Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball.
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  Speaker 3: Anyways, Now go, I was gonna ask walks counting that
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  Speaker 3: number correct, Yes, they do. They do count in that
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  Speaker 3: because it used to be I thought, now maybe I
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  Speaker 3: was wrong. I thought you used to walk ons didn't
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  Speaker 3: count as you're on your roster size.
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  Speaker 1: It your your roster that you can that you can
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  Speaker 1: have on your team walk on. Yes, Nebraska has been
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  Speaker 1: known to have a large roster because of all the
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  Speaker 1: walk ons that we include. That's yeah, I believe it's yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The guys that are going to practice and whatnot, right
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  Speaker 1: like those are that is your roster.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: We know that's happening. I think there's more to come there.
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  Speaker 1: I think this is also the first step to what
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  Speaker 1: Austin is saying, and this is the third part of
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  Speaker 1: the transfer portal is what's to be determined and what's
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  Speaker 1: to come. This lower roster size is going to lead
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  Speaker 1: to a more structured roster across the country where there
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  Speaker 1: is a cap coming. I don't know what that cap is.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even pretend to know what that number is
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  Speaker 1: that they're going to put. And with the revenue sharing
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  Speaker 1: impacting all of the payments to the players, and then
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  Speaker 1: how that combines and works with the collectives and everything there,
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  Speaker 1: I think there's it's gonna get sorted out here. You're
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  Speaker 1: gonna see player contracts coming, You're gonna see players being
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  Speaker 1: named employees. You're gonna see player unions coming. I think
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  Speaker 1: all of that is near future college football because right
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  Speaker 1: now everyone's seeing I mean last year a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: but this year especially because every school now has some
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  Speaker 1: sort of collective and the funds and these collectives have
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  Speaker 1: shot up massively this year. It truly is like I is,
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  Speaker 1: Bidder is a very very good target, a good place
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  Speaker 1: for people to look at to go like, that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of what's happening, and Nebraska is benefiting from that. I
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  Speaker 1: will say with some of these players that we've gotten
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  Speaker 1: even is from the recruiting class where we've flipped guys
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  Speaker 1: from Oklahoma, Alabama, places like that.
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  Speaker 5: So it's helping us right now.
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  Speaker 1: But there's more rules to come with this portal thing,
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  Speaker 1: and there really is, and we got to survive this
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  Speaker 1: little phase here and benefit from it the most that
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  Speaker 1: we can.
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  Speaker 4: So just to clarify, there are currently no roster limits.
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  Speaker 4: They bump from eighty five scholarships to one hundred and
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  Speaker 4: five total roster limits, so now you can have one
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  Speaker 4: hundred and five scholarship players, but that is also your
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  Speaker 4: max roster limit.
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  Speaker 3: There you go.
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  Speaker 4: So, yes, the contracts are coming, I agree. And then
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  Speaker 4: there's also the other aspect of the roster limits. On one,
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  Speaker 4: it's going to spread out the talent because now there's
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  Speaker 4: now whether the bottom talent really matters at all, who knows.
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  Speaker 1: And we're seeing that already with the college football you
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: see it, you see it this year how kalan is
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  Speaker 1: more spread out and I'm sorry, we're probably not going
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  Speaker 1: to get that many powerhouse powerhouse teams back for a while.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: So there's that, and the smaller schools are going to
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  Speaker 4: become feeders for bigger schools because when someone's gonna have
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  Speaker 4: a really good year in an FCS school or a
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  Speaker 4: lower tier, you know, mid American school, they're always going
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  Speaker 4: to go to the transfer portal and get coached by
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  Speaker 4: a power for school.
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  Speaker 2: So that's gonna be interesting. So I did have the idea.
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  Speaker 4: Here's the thought I had so half baked. Each Power
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  Speaker 4: for or each Division I football school has an f
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  Speaker 4: ASSOCIATED FCS. It's like a Triple A league. Like you know,
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: this is part of the Nebraska football ecosystem. I don't
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: know how you would do it, but it's like, Okay,
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: you have your pro roster and then you have your
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: FCS roster down there. That kind of is your developmental
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: because we're all kind of mentioned it during his press
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: conference where he's going to have more of a developmental
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: roster back end fifty fifty five players and then the
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: fifty players that he's.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Going to get ready for a game day just plumping
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: another FCS school. Lets you know league, Yeah, the G League.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I I kind of like that.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: I like that idea a lot.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: I don't know how you would do it, because you know,
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: I was looking at the FCS schools on the map.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: There's three hundred or there's one hundred and thirty three
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: FCS schools, and there's not a ton of like regional
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: A lot of the SCS schools are Central America.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're mostly North and yeah.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: The Big Sky Conference, Montana, Vakota.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Look at look at how MLB does it. They're I mean,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: some of them are regionalized, but some of their true
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: minor league teams are all over the country, so it's
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: not unheard of. I think, yeah, the affiliation and ties
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: would all have to get brought in there. But I
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: like that idea, I really do. And on top of that,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: there's a whole nother conversation with the NCAA to what
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Dak mentioned earlier, how you know what they're even here
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: for anymore. I think that's a very big topic of
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: conversation that is also going to be had over the
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: next five to ten years, is their existence, what they're
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: for and if they can't hold the big twelve or
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: the big ten in the SEC, which to me, that's
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: kind of be kind of the first step is those
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: two conferences saying we have the money, we have the resources,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: we have our own structure, see you like, we're going
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: to be our own governing body and have our own
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: league and championship. And this is going to be the
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: one that that model might actually save some of these
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: smaller schools because once these big schools leave, the revenue
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: from that they're getting the revenue sharing is going to help, right,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: But all this revenue that these schools need to function
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: in their small sport, especially not just football, in basketball
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: they're large ones. But your your tennis, you're swimming, your soccers,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: you're like volleyballs like those I know volleyball Nebraska is different,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: but those these smaller sports need money to operate, and
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: this model might actually help save some of them and
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: tie them to a power program. I like that look
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: at us.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Look at us. Oh yeah, it was cool. Transfer portal
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: it was. It wasn't quite as fun as NBA free agency.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: I always live for the opening day of NBA free
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: agency or the trade deadline. If we can bring the
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: trade deadline, that would be pretty cool. I know we
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: kind of talked about it a little bit ago. I
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: don't remember what point in the year we were throwing
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: around trade ideas for who would you trade.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: So that's interesting too, because I do think that could
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: come down the road though, one contract. Once contracts start happening,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: and I think that's inevitable. I really do it that
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: kind of those kind of conversations are going to happen,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: so more to come. I just think it's gonna become
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: a next to another professional type league, whether you like
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: it or not, that's where we're heading. And whether you
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: thought that or not too, at the beginning of all
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: this n I L conversation, you knew that something like
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: this is probably going to happen because where do you
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: stop with the paying the players, Like, where where do
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: you stop? So some something's going to come into play.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: We just don't know when and how it's going to happen.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: But I do think caps are going to be implemented,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: probably first, because that there's just so much money.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: There's so much money, it's so much insane.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: I I love the I love the fans who have
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: been you know, when someone enters the portal, we don't
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: want them, they don't want if they don't want to
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: be here, and the oh it's.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: Just let me let me ask, like what where do
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: you see rule?
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Adding all this, like, how do you view his ability
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: to navigate everything? I have an interesting opinion thought on this,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: But I wonder or what you guys said first, like
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: as a head coach, that's real.
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: We know what Dabo thinks, right, Like Dabo's like, f
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: all of this, get me the hell away.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: I mean rules, He's shown that he's you know, he's
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: willing to go into the portal and get pieces that
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: he's needed. I think he's probably frustrated with the guys
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: that he's like, hey, let's redshirt you.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: We're going to develop you. I think he could be
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: really good in a year or two. You're just not
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: there yet. And then they're entering entering the portal because it's.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: Like you didn't give me the chance to get you
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: to where I thought you needed to be. But I
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: mean he's been on the NFL side where it's this
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: is shifting more towards that sort of format, and he
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: has been to the college level, and I think Nebraska
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: has always kind of been strategically placed for NIL and
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: because we've I mean, we were kind of on the
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: forefront of how we were handling it and what our
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: collective was like. So I think I do think he's
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: a depth adapt one and he's talked about the conferences.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: He's like, I've been against the portal, but this is
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: college football now, Like we might have to change a
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: couple of things that we do here, but I'm still
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: gonna be a developmental coach.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: First. Well, what's interesting about him is he was coaching
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: college without all this when the NFL came back, and
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: now he's got all this in al So I feel
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: like it's taken a little bit for him to get
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: used to it. Like I feel like I feel like
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: it's a lot more work for coaches than when he
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: when he was in college before this.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: As far as the actual football goes.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you see a lot of coaches right now saying
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: I don't want nothing to do. I listen to erber
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Myyor today. He said, I want absolutely nothing to do
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: with college right now because it's like it's all around now,
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: there's no stopping.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: I think it's hard. It's a hard job right now to.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Have almost like I don't think yeah, and you got
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: to please all these eight seventeen eighteen year olds like
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: or else or else they're gone, They're like, screw you.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: I'm out, Like I don't know you. You just gotta
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: I feel like you wants to want to say that
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: pick and choose who you want the like, oh, how
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: do you have to explain it?
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's why they had like Andrew looks like
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: the general manager at Stanford and that's literally all he's
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: gonna do is this.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: It's going to be money management. Basically.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: They are hiring people, yes, just to take care of
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: all of the stuff whin I am. I sadly I
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: got an email from Oklahoma University from when I bought
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: tickets from them for the game years ago, and I
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: read there announced on the person they hired, his role
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: and what they're doing within the collective that they have
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: daculd you get that.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Even sadly, don't you know? Don't you know the person.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're you're not a true fan. So here's my thought. Okay,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Rule is a good communicator, or at least we think
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: he is. He spoke very well to the media. He
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: knows how to sell himself his program. I think that
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: pays off big time in recruiting. I think by by
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: being adaptable, and I think he does a good job
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: of that. Like you said, Austin, he he realizes that
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: this is what I want to do with development, but
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: I have to use the portal. Like I think that
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: is a solid approach. Fred Hoiberg almost all portal. Okay,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: he has been a long time. He's still can developed,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: but he wants He's a portal guy, right. You can
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: tell the last few years he's trying to get veteran
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: players from wherever in the country, juniors and seniors to
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: come in and play for him. I mentioned Dama, But
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: there are coaches that are taking the opposite approach.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: And I mean say it, Mike gad that.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Or or you're out.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: So Gundy's like that, I will say, Dana Holgerson, I don't.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I think there's a part of him that why he
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: wants to be an offensive coordinator. He wants to coach football.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: He doesn't want to have to deal with all this
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: extrude stuff. So I think Rule is a good person
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: as long as and this is a big if, and
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: this goes about without saying, but as long as you're
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: winning games and you're building in the right direction. The
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: second that a talker and a rule to talker, rule
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: to communicator, rules of persuader, he's a very good persuader.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Second that you don't start seeing results with that kind
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: of personality, you start to think one word, and that's fraud.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Anything is that word. That word is very much on
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: the tip of everybody's tongue right now with how this
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: season ended. He's obviously not getting fired, but all this
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: talk and all this stuff that we have been persuaded
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: into believing with him, if you don't start seeing results,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: it doesn't mean jack crap. It doesn't. And that's that's
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: what's gonna be.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: Like for recruits too.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Like we had the number twenty recruiting class, that's what
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: one of the higher ones we've had in years for recruiting.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: For transfer portal guys, you can sell them on what
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: you want, but the second that they're not seeing results,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: they start to go, well, this guy's full of shit
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: and they're leaving. We didn't have many guys leave last
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: year ruled. How did how proud he was of you know,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: we don't have guys entering the portal because they believe
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: in the vision the long term. But yeah, yeah, this
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: year's a different story. It's also another year, so it's
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: a new environment. But that's the opinion right now. Where
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I'm out with the rule is like everybody wants to
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: say it, and it's there. You better start winning quick
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: and figure this out or you're not gonna look like
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: you know what you're doing and everything you said. And
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: this Tony White thing doesn't help it all either, because
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: that was our best code, our best unit, our best coordinator,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: all of that and all these guys following them. So
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: you better figure it out fast and you can sell
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: everybody with you when people are gonna stop believing quick
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: if you don't.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Let's let's be honest here. The rosters nowadays are not
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: I feel like they're not as much on the coach
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: as it is on your nil. Like I feel like
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: it's way more on them to build your roster than
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: it's almost a coach anymore. How much money, how much
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: money you can throw out.
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: I'm just just to know, Dak.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: But that hurts Nebraska's case. You would say we have
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: one of the strongest ni L funds and programs, right,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: So that even makes it worse if you're not winning,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: because now you're saying we aren't even paying the right
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: people to come here. I mean, that makes it makes
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: your coaching look worse.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: That's my Yeah, that's the next point is, so you start,
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: if you're coaching, aren't winning, your nil money gets less
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: the last two so it just spirals into that. But
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: but I don't even think recruiting like high school kids
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: is even that big of a dealing.
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: More like, see, I disagree.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: I think the programs that are going to succeed well
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: in this new era are going to be the ones
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: that are able to develop high school kids. It's the ones,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: just like the NFL. The NFL programs that hit on
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: the draft and are able to take those young players
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: and develop them are the ones that usually end up
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: succeeding very very well. Now there's exceptions to that right
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: in all professional sports. But I think you have to
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: think of it like a draft, like you are hitting
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: on young kids. That you are going to develop, but.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: The time that you have to develop them, I mean
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: you already get what max five years.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Max, Well you get eight or nine now, but.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Well the COVID years over, we're back time. We're one
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: that I think we're done with that. So I mean,
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: if you're not getting them out, you're not getting them
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: on the field.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: In your two.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: They're gone.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: They're gone.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And this goes back to the persuasion and the
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: buy in of what you're trying to build as a program,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: right and and and with someone like Rule, who I
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: would say is living in the middle with it all,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: with the portal and and the recruiting and development piece,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: like you have to be tremendous at selling to these
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: players why they're value. And a lot of these youngers
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: are like Ky Wallon is a perfect example that just
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: announced he had so much potential. And yes, there's all
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: the stuff with our defense and the coordinators and coach
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: is leaving, but like this is your development guy.
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: Like you got to keep a guy like this around.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: If you win and you're.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Showing results, that persuasion is a lot easier. But if
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: you're not, you're right, like they're gonna say well, I'm
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: not here. Okay, maybe best case scenario, I get developed
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: and I'm starting my junior year.
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: But for a six and sixteen, that's no fun. Jeff
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: Simms made the playoffs this year.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: He did, he did. Chins also made the playoffs Nebraska.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: I didn't even think about that, but SAMs.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: It's one of those things though. You you you watch
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: these players that go to other places, and yeah, they
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: they have they have decent careers and because they're good players,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: they're solid players. Not Jeff Simms, but like some of
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: these other transfers that go other places. That's how it goes.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: And so you have to be very strategic in how
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: you keep guys here and then on top of that
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: identifying the players that you can pull in. And that
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: side's still to be determined to come here. Uh in
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: the next several weeks, couple of months here with the
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: transfer portal, like what guys are we getting? Isaiah and
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: a or Jamal Banks were the two big receiver targets.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: What did they pay out for this year and what
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: do you think average at best? Like they were good
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: on average?
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, less less than what I expect them to do.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: I mean that that's that's just that that that right there.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: You so to the point of the media and everybody
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: getting all hyped up and jacked up about recruiting and
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: the stars and the portal and the top ranked transfer.
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: I don't care like I.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: I guess that's why I've never been a big hpe
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: man over recruiting in the past too. I need to
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: like see them do something and produce and develop in
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: your program before I get excited about it. Other media
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: outlets and fans are not like that, because I need
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: something to have excitement about in the off season.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: It's just hard for me to look at this and
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: go okay, great.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: And in the same way when guys leave, I'm also
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: kind of like, all right, like what does this mean?
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think this could be what it means,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: but I'm like, let's just see. Let's see what happens.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: And right now, the results that we're seeing with the
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: rule has not been good to end the year, so
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: we have to time to tell on what kind of
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: plat I mean. I hear all this hype on this
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Cortes Mills. We got this receiver, like how he's gonna
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: be basically hand in hand with Jacry Barney, I'm like, okay, great,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Like we'll find out next August. We're gonna get hyped
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: up in the spring about it. But that's what we
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: do here at Nebraska. That's what we do.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: That's what you're supposed to do as a fan, though, Hunter,
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: let's not act like you're supposed.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: To go said, yes, it is.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: You're not supposed to Now I will say we're a
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: little hyperbolic. You know, we think we always have the
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: next Christian McCaffrey on our roster.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: But yeah, a good way of putting it. Like, I agree,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: it's not fun being a fan if you're always.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: If you're not excited about anyone on your.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Team, pessimistic. I wouldn't. I wouldn't say I'm pessimistic in
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: the offseason. I just don't get hyperbolic. I don't get optimistic.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: I go, oh, we got this four star, sweet.
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: I'm excited to see how they play. I'm not going
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: to say that they're gonna knock the world on their ass, you.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Know where we're as some fans will say, oh, we
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: got the sportstar. Hey look at this video. Look at
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: this video, Hey, look at this Guy's gonna be the
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: next Jamar Chase, like people go down those rabbit holes
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: and it's like, oh my god, like chill out. We
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: haven't seen play snap yet. That goes back to Dylan Rightola,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: like going into the year exceeded expectations, Matt didn't exceed.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Like what do people think?
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: I think everybody was all over the board before they
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: thought would we had we didn't.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Do our end of year. The end of the year
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: happened so quick we didn't even to do our end
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: of year recap.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: I mean we just rolled straight into Tony White game
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: fired and maybe.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah it happened quick.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: Well we're not There's.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Say, we haven't hit the end of the year yet.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: What a good transition. Both selection happened December twenty eighth.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: Pinstrap Bull you going.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: No, no, we have basketball come on at Yankee Stadium.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: It would be cool.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: And they won't have a chance to win.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: What's the sponsor? It's like bad boys, bad boys, bad boys.
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: That's what now.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: I feel like this is Boston College is like twenty
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: fifth time playing in this game. Every single time. I
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: feel like the Pinstripe bulls on there in it.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: So I heard something very interesting is when they made
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: the Pin Strike Bowl. I think it was ten years ago.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: The Pin Strike Bowl had not an agreement but basically
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: an unwritten agreement with the Big Ten that said, we
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: want to try to get ten different Big Ten teams
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: in our bowl in ten years. And the two teams
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: that were eligible for a bowl this year that have
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: not played in the Pin Stripe Bowl were Michigan and Nebraska,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: and therefore those were the two candidates to play. I
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: think every other team, obviously we haven't we even made
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: it one since then, but every other team has kind
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: of had their chance. So that is another reason I
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: think why we are got selected. Like it's some people
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: are talking about the cold weather and warm versus warm weather.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: I don't care. Like New York City kind of cool,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: kind of fun baseball stadium, kind of fun. Boston College,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: I think a fun opponent to play, right, it's another
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: power conference opponent that also is Again we talk about
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: this portal thing, and IL think like it's only impacting Nebraska,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: It's impacting everyone. They're better quarterback Thomas Castillanos, who's a
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: big time running running threat. He entered the portal earlier today.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: So everyone's going through this stuff. We're not really gonna
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: know who's gonna play in this game until we get
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: a lot closer to it right now, If you want
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: to try to piece together our defense, I mean I
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: guess you could try, but we'll do that.
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: We'll do that in our pregame episode next week and.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Like like we'll see that.
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: That's that's the fun part about it.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: But I think it's a it's a good opportunity to
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: play against a team that we're favored, Like we're favored
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: by three and a half for whatever that means. Uh.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: And Bill O'Brien their their head coach, who came from
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Alabama's OC took the job last year, was also a candidate,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: a name thrown around before we hired Rule that we
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: talked about quite a bit that we were like, so
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: you have that element there too. I'm excited for it.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: It'll be it' it's it's an eleven am game. Not
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: thrilled about the time, but uh, it's the Saturday after
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Christmas Saturday.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: You can play eleven am on Thursdays. Yeah, what you
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: plan on Friday? Right, you can play.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: You need to stop talking about Oklahoma because you're not
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: a fan. You got showed up at a bar by
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: a thirty two year old woman.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: On Saturday.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you knew more Olkhoma players than I did.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: We'll just say that, No, not more Oklahoma players.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Don't even leave it at that more about everything Oklahoma
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: than you did, and it wasn't even close. It was
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: like ten times as much as you did. You need
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: to stop with this Oklahoma and throw all this stuff
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: away because you're not a fan, Like, just get rid
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: of it. You don't even know when they.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Play Friday, eleven am, December twenty seven.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Nailed it. I don't know the Saturday, that'll be nice.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: It's Saturday after Christmas. You're kind of tired of hang
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: at your family.
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: It's like, all right, like here's three hours where we
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: don't have to talk to each other.
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: We could just watch this game. Yeah, I it'll be intriguing.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Like I think it's a good bowl game to play
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: in for getting back to a bowl game for the
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: first time in eight years.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Who's Who's got more fans because Boston the hell blot
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: closer to Nebraska. But I don't think I don't think
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: they're very very well traveling fan base.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Nebraska will travel hard to that Mole game. I guarantee it.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: There are already some travel packages if you got that
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: email for the Brest alumni.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Next topic of conversation that kind of transitions into into
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: or off the bowl game is the playoffs in the
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: selection and I guess overall thoughts with how the committee
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: made their picks their matchups. We don't need to go
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: through the bracket. I think people have seen it know
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: what's going on. Here's my very first general thought, and
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: we've mentioned this stuff before. I'm so excited for the
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: playoffs and the home game and the twelve team. I
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: think it's so good for college football, especially this year.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: And you could even argue argue this year a larger
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: playoff was necessary would have been even more fun, because truly,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: I do think there are sixteen to eighteen teams in
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: college football that could win it this year, not all
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: directly even, but they all could win it. And that's
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: what makes it fun. Is like we saw conference championship weekend,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: there was no spread over five for all the conference championships.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: We haven't had a year like this in a long time,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: so it makes every game intriguing. And there were still
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: blowhouts in the conference championship, so that's where we're at
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: in college football.
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: It's great. It's great for the sport.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: I know people were complaining about how the committee came
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: up with their criteria and their selection, and I will
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: say I disagree with putting SMU in over Alabama, but
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not like.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: You're not about.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: It, like I understand. I actually thought they put Alabama
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: in since the NCAA wants to keep you know, the
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: SEC happy, and they didn't. I know most people didn't
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: want that to happen. They wanted SMU in because they
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: are just tired of Alabama. So Alabama was one of
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: the first teams left out, and then Miami got left
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: out as the thirteen Ole miss at fourteen, South Carolina fifteen.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Those are kind of the teams right around there. But
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I guess overall thoughts in the playoffs from your guys' perspective,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: as we get closer to the first round.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Dank you want to go first?
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, well, first off, top, I think they
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: committe got right with the SMU because if you if
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: you would have played Alabama, I think you'd have teams
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: off that conference style games like screw that, We're not
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: gonna Ryan played like SU had to play an extra
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: game and they kept it close, which I think they
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: had to keep it ten or let's get put in
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: like that, and by keeping it within three, I think
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: made a better choice for SMU because they had the
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: guy can't think they had two losses. SMU did. One
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: was an extra game. So I I think if you
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: put Alabama and teams completely just opt out of common
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: stock games like we're not doing that. So I I
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: think if top of that, next thing is it'll be
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: sweet to see Hong in like you said, like Indiana
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: going another Dame when it's like ten degrees outside, it's
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: gonna be awesome. I'm seen going down Texas killing them.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: That's gonna be awesome. I think I think all the
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: matchups are set up pretty well too, Like there's not
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: there's not any matchup in the first round. Think it's
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: gonna be completely blow out. Maybe that's that's does that's
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: play Penn State? Mm hmm, that that could get out.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: Like I'm not saying SMU is better in Alabama. I'm
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: not saying that.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Yes, So that's that's where the argument I'm not saying
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: that is who's better? And to me, who would what
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: game would I rather watch? Would I rather rather watch
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Alabama going to Penn State or SMU go into Penn State.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: Then if your arguments what would I rather watch the
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: regular season has to matter?
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard. It's hard.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: If Alabama went eight.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: And four, people would still be like, I'd rather watch
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: Alabama play Penn State than s m U actual and.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: And people are saying because of you know, the SEC
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: is a gauntlet and YadA YadA YadA.
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: I but.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Half that does another like it's it is what it
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: is with how they decided. What I'm I say, what
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: I'm most upset about, not upset, but puzzled by is
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: how how they kept it Clemson at the twelve and
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: SMU at the eleven.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't get that, that's the part.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: But I think that was matchup based. I think they
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: wanted Texas to play Clemson s play path. I think
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: I think that's why that happened. I just was confused
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: by how they decided that.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, boot freaking who Alabama crimea River. You didn't get
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: the benefit of the doubt. Ones seed higher like their
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: ads throwing a fit. We're gonna have to look at
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: our schedules like you lost the unranked Oklahoma, you lost
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: to unraked Vanderbilt.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: That's your fault, like those it wasn't your schedule's fault.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: That you want and and I agree like Alabama fans like,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: don't get blown out by Oklahoma, like Oklahoma was not
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: a good football this year.
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: And then have Mercer two weeks from the last. You know, like,
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: let's not act like you've historically scheduled tough non con
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: opponents at home or you know, on the road. Outside
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: of Texas, it was like there were like six like
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: true road environment games against ranked opponents or something.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: What I what I do think, which you're probably gonna
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: fix that next year. Is the seating part because Boise
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: as a four seed, getting them get in the one
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: seed almost sucks because now you're working up the Ohio
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: State or Tennessee. I agree, and then I can't. I
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: can't think what seeds is.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: See I I I don't that argument people are thrown
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: out there.
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: I just don't. I don't see it.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: I don't agree, Like I don't know, like five, six, seven,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: and eight, nine to ten, they're all especially this year
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: in college football, they're all the same. Everybody's the same,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: and reward the conference champions and I don't think anybody
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: saw Boise State being the three seed and definitely didn't
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: see Arizona State being the four seed. I get that
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: that people didn't see that, but I think people in
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: their mind are saying, well, Boise State and Arizona State
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: aren't that good, so what they won their conference title?
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Like I think they're pretty good.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: And then they won their conference title, so whether he
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: saw that coming into the year or not, just because
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: they're not a traditional team that we see in these spots,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: and people are saying, well, if it would have been
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: the four team, this is what it would have been.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: And then obviously those teams are not getting in.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: L State is not in. It is a four team, but.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: It's a if you won your conference championship, I think
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: that should be rewarded and it makes these first round
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: matchups I think all of a lot more fun too.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: And yeah, an eight seed or a seventh seed might
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: beat a two seed, maybe not this year in a matchup,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: but a sixth seed might be favored against a three seed.
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: That's okay, there's nothing wrong with that.
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: This year, it will be Penn State against the Boise State,
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: will be favored. Like, if you look at the bracket,
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: you're happy if your Penn State, You're upset at your Oregon,
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: and you're probably happy if you're Georgia.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: Those are probably the three teams that you feel so yeah.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: And everybody's arguing about the Organ thing. I'm like, okay,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: well who do you want to play? Like?
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: I agree, I it just sucks if you're organ It's
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: like I went undefeated just to have to play Ohio
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: State again or Tennessee in the second and after my bye.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: I guess, I guess you're that good. You're gonna have
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: to go through either way.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: I don't even say nobody's that good. Like Oregon, I guess, yeah,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: went undefeated, they're the one team.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: But Georgia almost lost eight overtimes to Georgia Tech last
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: last week of the year.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: It's just is what it is like quarterbacks out for
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: the year, who can string together, who can string together
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: three or four games?
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: And then you can yeah, yeah, screw Alabama fans and
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: then they're a bitch and it's like, oh, you mean
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: last year when Florida State got left out because their
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: starting quarterback got hurt, but went undefeated and won their Conference.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: Oh no, poor you.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: Kind of they kind of came back on them this year, like, yeah,
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: playing my extra. I don't know. I i'd love the
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: home game. I wish the second round was home games too. Still,
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: I hate I hate that because I would love to
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: see boys who play home game at Arizona State play
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: home game.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, then you're losing some of these cool wool game venues.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Venues, You move them, you just move them.
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: I think what really sucks is if you're saying you're
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: Tennessee lose to Ohio State and you're Clemson lose in Texas,
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: you don't get a bowl game, like there isn't a
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: neutral site game. Yeah you're yeah, you lose on the road.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: I guess I would take. I would I would take
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: I would take.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: I agree, But I don't know. I guess I don't
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: know how the revenue works for that. I don't know.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Good point, I don't know.
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: You know, because they are you gonna limit fans like
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: if it was a Nebraska game, are you still only
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: gonna have the one fans section and like everything else
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: is going to be red?
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: Then you there's there's a now the money is becoming
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: more of it.
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: There becomes a Hey, I want the revenue share from
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: this game, and.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that it was talked about before. I guess
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: I always one of the details behind it, like what
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: is going on behind the scenes there. But I'm excited
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: for the playoffs overall, It's gonna be fun again. Perfect
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: year for it where there has not been any dominant teams,
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: there's not a heavy favorite. I think anybody has a
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: chance to win it. It makes it exciting, it makes
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: all the games exciting to watch. Like I said, future
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: or this year have been a fun one to even
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: open it up more because I do think that Ole Miss, Alabama, Miami, Miami,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: those teams all could potentially win it too. They're good
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: enough to.
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: But most years, I think twelve is a good number
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: for the teams that have a chance to win it.
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: But always going to be a third team seed. There
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: will always be a thirteen seed.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: I will say this given the the anil talk that
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: we just had in transfer portal and things continue to
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: be spread out, maybe this is the new normal too,
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: and we're just constantly going to see everything be leveled
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: out as much as it can be in college football,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: which I think helps someone like Nebraska like I think
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: it does too, you know, have a one off year,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: make a run and make the playoffs. Like I think
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: that helps spreading out because you're you. You are now
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: make it tougher because weekend and a week out you're
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: playing a good team, so you got to find a
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: way to win close games.
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: But I think I think everybody said that it would
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: kill the regular season I think was dead wrong because
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: it gives teams a lot more who like you can have.
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: You can have one or two lost now and still.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Game in the championship game. It's like, oh, we're playing
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: for play.
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah that that AC title game would not have mattered
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: last year, but.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: A three loss AC title team usually doesn't happen. True, Yeah,
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: but it probably will be more cover now it happened. Yes,
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: it happened because you know, the talent in the A
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: c C.
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: Was very love spread out.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Last culturable topic conversation here, you gotta do it, Scott
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Frosty back to U c F once again, Dak reporting
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: and sharing that with me first, Uh thoughts good for him.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: Hopefully it works out. Hopefully's in a better spot.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Do you want it to work out to the level
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be better than us.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: But I don't need to see him go twelve and h.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: I don't need to see that.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: Never leieve what you love?
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: If he goes eight and four nine three?
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Do you want it to work out? Do you
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: think it will work out?
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: Those are two questions.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to work out.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: I would like I guess if I say workout, I'm
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: gonna say, like, you know, while he's there making college
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: football playoff like type of deal, like going nine and
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: three and making it.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: I could see that happening.
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: But I don't think, like if I were to give
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: it odds, i'd say probably sixty.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: Eight point three percent that it doesn't work out.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: I think I think there was a good shot it
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: works out, like he's he's a proven to it once
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: and I I think.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: And then what happened? He did it once?
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: And then what he came here and went off?
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: But okay, Dak, tell me, tell me why why do
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: you think it worked out once? And why do you
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: think it can work out again? But it couldn't work
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: in Nebraska? Tell me why.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: He came here? And I think I think he was
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: ahead of him, like his head got him too big here. Yeah,
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think he was that focused
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: here on the actual football part.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: I think he's a good offensive mind, and I can
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: work in.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: The big twelve. Yeah why why now?
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Though, we'll work for him back in Florida.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: M hm, I don't think it would.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: Da great offensive mind big twelve, Like you said, I think,
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: and I also think the inn I l air which
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: he had, I guess he had a little bit here
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: in Nebraska. I think it's better that he took off
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: that three years and refocused on football in his life,
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: basically because I and I think he's I still think
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: he's a good coach. I just don't think that his
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: head was in the right space he Nebraska, like.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: He's got the mcveighe coaching tree aspect. Now, why wasn't.
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: Head in the right place in Nebraska?
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I was not he is.
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's just a level of God complex when
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: you come, you're the you're the savior, You're the returning home.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: All of your buddies are here. I can see how
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: that could that could seems.
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, it's got a little bit too big, like
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: I said, said and just didn't he thought there was
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: no way he ever.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Could get fired and tell me what causes that.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: The fans like he he definitely got no shot. I'll
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: ever get fired from the school and tell the end.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Brought in at the quote unquote savior and I agree
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: he got to him. Guys, I've been saying it a
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: big the big common denominator is this fan base. And
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying I don't know how to fix it
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: or what the solution is, but the he said it.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: The pressure if I want him to go win at
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: ECF and just say yep.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: Like I messed up.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: No, I'm a good coach, and he will. He will
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: throw I've heard through the grapevine that he is just
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: dogging on Nebraska and everything about the administration and the
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: program and everything. I hope it works so that we
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: can identify. Everybody can go, why in the hell can
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: could he not do it?
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: Well?
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Guess what, people, It's because of It's because of the fans.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: It's because of the unrealistic talking, hyping expectations, everything that
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: goes with it. That just puts a guy like that
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: on a pedestal and it now becomes about something other
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: than putting your head down and working your ass off.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Figuring out a win. Gates rules the talker. I wish
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: some of our coaches have put their head down, shut up,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: and just work. I think Dame as doing that. I
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: think Dana is saying this is a you know, this
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: is funny, like whatever I'm gonna work. I hope it
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: works out at UC if I'm rooting for it, because
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: I think it would identify that there's a bigger problem
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: here than what people want to admit, and that is
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: the entire realm of Husker football, this thing that we've
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: created as fans, and it's putting this extra layer of
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: cloud over everything.
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: And again, it didn't end at Nebraska because we didn't
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: like we all wanted it to work, all right, we
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: all like he left because of performance and it wasn't
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: like ill will like, but it's just like you didn't
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: get it done.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: We wanted this to work, really, we wanted it so
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: badly and just and he.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: Knows he was defeated.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: When he left you could tell in the press conferences.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: And then you know in year four he did he
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: did what we're doing now. I mean, if you want to,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: if you want to say it, like you can just
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: see the stage we're at with Matt rule. You want
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: to compare it to the Scott Frost Mike Riley like,
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: we are in the all right, Matt rule. You tried
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: what you wanted to do for two years failed, Let's
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: bring in some people. I'm not saying I think the
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: Frost one was forced by administration. This one, I think
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: maybe it was a little more rule from what I
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: can tell, which is good, which is good, and basically said,
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: all right, now let's revamp the offense and let's bring
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: in a whole new coaching staff. This one a little
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: bit not by choice. With twenty White leaving, you can
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: see where we're at. The whole Scott Frost thing. It's hard,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: Like I think Husker fans are going to naturally not
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: root for him, right, They're gonna say you suck because
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: you failed, and.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: And you don't want to see you don't see your
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: ex girlfriend and the hotter guy, Like that's just not
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: what That's the analogy.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: It is a great analogy. And all of a sudden,
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: you see f in two years is playing in the
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: Comfortaball Playoff, and here we are at six and six
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: or five and seven, missing the Bowl and maybe hiring
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: a new coach, like, we don't want that to happen.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: But I think think that the big picture is Okay,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: Scott Frost made it work there, couldn't get it done here,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: and then made it work there again, Why like, why
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: why is that even possible? Well, we said at UCF
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: when we were talking about Scott Frost when he's at Nebraska,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: you don't.
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: You don't.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: You don't have a billion published publisher publishers writing about you.
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: Your recruiting is very free and open. You have the ability.
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: Frost can go golfing at random Orlando golf courses and
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: not get called out and judged for drinking and boozing.
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: He can do his own thing. He's not in the
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: spotlight when he's at you, he can just coach. But
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: when he's here, we made him the next Golden Child.
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: And again it wasn't he was. We made him into that.
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: The media and fans made him into the Golden Child.
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying that was wrong, but we did.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: We made it like that he is the savior, and
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: it took away from what potentially he knows is how
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: to coach football in an offense, and our offense was
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: very bad. Under shot Frost just like it isn't.
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: Another reason why it might not go the same as
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: you see as Big Twelve. Now, well you know he
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: wasn't there were in the Big twelve, so that is difference.
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: That will make it even more telling though if he
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: is able to win.
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: Now telling I wasn't on the podcast when Frost is here,
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: and it sounds like you guys were hopped off the
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: train quicker than a lot of other when he when
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: they was going bad. Huscar fans would never admit it.
• 59:28
  Speaker 5: Like so, same thing with what's happening right now with
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: the Rule Dak.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: I think everybody eventually got to a point where they
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: were done with Frost and wanted to move on. I
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: would say that I was probably on the leading edge
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: of that or swards the front. Austin probably fell a
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: little more in the middle, and there are some people
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: that hung on till the very end, until the Southern
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: or Southern even and said, okay, it's done. I think
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: that it's a very true statement. I'll say it with Rule,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: I'm not there, but I'm pretty damn close.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: As far as wasting time with one two three years
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: under this regime with Matt Rurl I'm not there yet,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: and I probably there's nothing that could happen. I think
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: between now, well, yeah, there's one thing could happen between
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: now and the start of next season that would take
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: me off of it. But as long as he's here,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: I think I'm still there. But early next year and
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: as we start the year, that's gonna be very telling.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: And I think there's probably a handful of fans that
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: are with me. But I'm telling you, from now until
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: the first game next year, regardless of the Bowl game outcome,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: the hype and the juice and all that's going to
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: come and Rule is going to do a tremendous job
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: of convincing fans that we are going to be good
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: next year. That's what what he should do, right, That's
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: what that's that's his job that he should do. But
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: just don't get blinded by it. Don't get sucked in
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: until you start seeing results. That's my caution, because we
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: saw what happened this year again when we you know,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: I was guilty of it, even though I said I
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: wasn't gonna do it ud.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: Season, you said ten ten that was the bar.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: So it happened like just well, we're also five and oh,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: at that point. Come to find out, those teams were
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: very good and it turned out pretty good. That was one.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: But so at one point though and sec would you
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: maybe that's what Nebraska is.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: So to that point, we talked about this.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: A month ago six and sixteen Max.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: A month ago, it was one of the big time
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: writers said, last thing for huscar fans to do is
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: just accept mediocrelia, like that's the last thing for us
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: to do instead of wishing. Unfortunately, there's that. I don't.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's ever going to happen. I unless
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: the only way that that could happen for me is
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: if we got like a professional team in Omaha football team.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: To move your passion somewhere else and my.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: Passion gets shifted. I've tried, and I do follow case
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: state along, but it's not here. But I can't. You can't.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: I've said that before. Like you can, you can joke
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: and laugh and try to shift your focus and fandom
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: towards something else. There's nothing in the state of Nebraska
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: that you're going to be able to do that with.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: Like you can. You can try all you want, but
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: the emotions are not going to let you do it.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: Now apathy is a different thing that I think everyone's
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: level of care has changed, especially from the the more
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: casual fans that it's not Saturday is not about the game,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: from when you wake up to when you go to bed.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: I'm still at that phase, like whether I whether I
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: like to admit that or not. But more and more
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: people that I'm around, they're not there anymore, like they
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: would rather spend as little time on it because that's
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: what they how much they care about it anymore, which
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: is sad. But that's where things are headed with Husker
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: football unless things get turned around.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: Well, end on a high note.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: Volleyball Sweet sixteen Okay, didn't say else. I don't have
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: any other football No, I saw the Heisman stuff. No
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: surprises there. I mean, I feel like Hunter is.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: Going to win. Yep, yeah, so uh yeah.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: Volleyball Sweet sixteen two sweeps looked good.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 5: I think we won that one set against Florida and
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: m was at twenty five to three.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: Great, uh yeah, play dates on Friday night and then
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: if we win, we play Wisconsin on Sunday.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: Most likely Wisconsin most right, most likely got to Texas
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: A and m Old Trev Alberts coming back home.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: If we have to play freaking Trev Alberts Texas A
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: and M and we've lose to them, I'm done. I'm
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: an I'm an aggy fan.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: That's it. Alberts won, I'm just.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: Kidding and crazy.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 5: I don't want to talk about basketball, So let's not
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: even bring that up.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was rough. You brought it up. You brought
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: it up. The ladies are doing well though, I mean
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: outside of the one loss.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: That was fun to watch yesterday defeated Minnesota.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all the good Husker news. I mean, have
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: we did we talk about the recruiting class at all?
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: Was that that was this week?
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: Wasn't it? So we got all twenty of the people
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: we wanted, So I mean that says something about rule Yeah.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mentioned the twentieth. I just I'm I've
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: just never been a big recruiting hype guy. I'm like, great,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: we got some guys. Probably.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: If you're saying that's the draft now, I mean, that's
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: that's what you're saying, is this is more important than
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: the creation.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But what's funny though, is I don't get hyped
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: over the draft either, like until they start getting to
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: the teams and they start playing.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: Like fantasy football is a prime example.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: Like the draft is fun, but trust me, in my
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: dynasty leagues that I'm in, I don't get excited over
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: these players because I have missed on a lot of
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: guys that I've drafted one, two, and three in dynasty
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: football and they have done nothing. So I'm like the
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: draft is like great, Like we got some people I
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: drafted my I drafted Trey Lance, Awesome. Guess what Trey
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: Lance has done? Jack shit? I drafted JK Dobbins, Great,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: Guess what JK Dobbins has gotten hurt every goddamn year
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: since I had him. Like it's just one of those
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: things that like I don't want to get excited over
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: something that I haven't seen him produce.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: I got Marvin Harrison this year. Every one overall pick
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: solid year.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: He's got lights lights out guy. They thought he was
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: gonna be.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: So like we'll see Caleb Williams and got him too,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: Like we'll see what happens. Is just something I don't
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: get too excited about until.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: Took that one. Oh shut no. That's that's why I
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: like the port better than recruiting nowadays, because you saw
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: these guys play you most likely know what you're getting. Now,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: you always get a DJU come to your school like
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: Florida State where you think you're getting someone good and
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: then that shipwreck happens. But yep, yeah, Je Sims, you're
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: gonna be national Chile. Jeff Sims, right, there could be
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: what what if he does come in and lead to
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: the title, like the starring quarterback gets hurt and he
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: leads him the championship.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: Good for him. You know it didn't work out here
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: and that was mostly his fault, the.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: Same as price you guys rooting for Jeff Sims.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: M hmm.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: We're good people. We want people to succeed. I don't
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: want people to fail unless they work for Colorado.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, yeah, we're back to weekly episodes here
• 1:07:11
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• 1:07:15
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• 1:07:19
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• 1:07:34
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• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: So we're there now too cool way back.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: Next week Bowl game preview Boston College the Eagles.
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