Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Solving Rural Physician Shortages and Restoring Joy in Medicine with Dr. Joseph Pazona
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- 0:00Hello, and welcome to the Becker's Healthcare podcast.
- 0:02My name is Chanel Bongard. Today, I have
- 0:04the pleasure of speaking with doctor Joseph Pizzona,
- 0:08the CEO at Virtu Care, joins the podcast
- 0:10today to share insights in his background, turns
- 0:12he's keeping an eye on and a bit
- 0:14more. Doctor Pizzona, thank you so much for
- 0:15joining me today. Thank you, Chanel. I'm excited
- 0:18to be here. Perfect. Well, to get us
- 0:19started out, could you introduce yourself and tell
- 0:21us a bit about your background and Virtu
- 0:24Care?
- 0:25Absolutely.
- 0:26I am a board certified urologist,
- 0:29and the CEO and founder of VirtuCare.
- 0:32Initially, I thought I was just gonna focus
- 0:35on being a physician like many, many doctors.
- 0:38No doctors in my family. And so I
- 0:41don't think I truly knew what I was
- 0:42getting into when I when I went to
- 0:44medical school, but but it was definitely my
- 0:46calling and loved it.
- 0:47And quickly saw, as my first job was
- 0:50in rural America,
- 0:52the challenges
- 0:53that patients,
- 0:54health care administrators, and physicians all face in
- 0:58rural markets.
- 0:59It's a a wonderful place to practice, but
- 1:01you don't have the same resources as the
- 1:03big cities.
- 1:04And so I saw opportunities
- 1:06to innovate, saw opportunities to improve access to
- 1:09care,
- 1:10but kept being,
- 1:13stifled and hit with various constraints.
- 1:16And I think, the most dangerous phrase in
- 1:19medicine is, well, we've always done it this
- 1:21way.
- 1:22And, as someone who's not a complacent person,
- 1:25that didn't sit well with me. So I
- 1:27did something about it. Ultimately relocated to, Nashville,
- 1:31and it is here that I not only
- 1:34started my own independent practice, but started VirtuCare,
- 1:38a health care company that partners with rural
- 1:41health care systems
- 1:43to implement,
- 1:45grow
- 1:46outpatient urology service lines with surgical procedures. As
- 1:50a urologist, that's what I've started with and
- 1:52what I saw as a big opportunity.
- 1:54And, we're very excited with the impact we're
- 1:56making in rural America to keep care local.
- 1:59Awesome. Thank you so much for that introduction.
- 2:01And now moving forward, can you talk about
- 2:03what trends you're watching either in rural health,
- 2:06urology, or just health care overall?
- 2:09I think the the the 800 pound gorilla
- 2:11in the room is physician shortages and how
- 2:14they're impacting these rural communities.
- 2:17So I'll speak from the perspective of,
- 2:20urology.
- 2:21Right now, there's over 1,100
- 2:23job postings for urologists in this country,
- 2:26predominantly in underserved areas,
- 2:28and yet we only train 300 urologists
- 2:31a year.
- 2:32And I'm not a statistician or a math
- 2:34major, but those numbers don't work out.
- 2:36Half of those urologists are gonna complete a
- 2:38fellowship and to subspecialize
- 2:41and go join a major academic center or
- 2:43work at a large group.
- 2:4595%
- 2:46of docs coming out of training are gonna
- 2:48choose to live in major to midsize markets.
- 2:52So we have this asymmetry
- 2:53where
- 2:54most of the doctors that are coming out
- 2:56are going to the areas where we have
- 2:58the largest surplus,
- 3:00and yet the biggest need is in rural
- 3:02America.
- 3:03And this story is the same in other
- 3:05specialties.
- 3:07So we've gotta move beyond this notion of
- 3:09every community having a full breadth of medical
- 3:12services.
- 3:13You're not getting any arguments from me, Chanel.
- 3:15That's the ideal. But, unfortunately, it's not practical.
- 3:18And so we need to start adopting
- 3:20innovative,
- 3:22highly leveraged care models
- 3:24because I believe your ZIP code shouldn't determine
- 3:26your access to quality health care.
- 3:28Absolutely.
- 3:29And now, I have a two parter question
- 3:31here. So looking forward, what are you most
- 3:33focused on and excited about? And then looking
- 3:36in the past, six to eighteen months or
- 3:38so, can you talk about an initiative or
- 3:39project or just something that you're proud of?
- 3:42Absolutely. Yeah. I'll start with the latter.
- 3:44We doubled our hospital partnerships in 2025,
- 3:49and so excited to see that our innovative
- 3:51care model is getting adopted and
- 3:53that
- 3:54we are on pace to double our partnerships
- 3:56again probably in the first half of this
- 3:57year.
- 3:59So we're starting to really get traction.
- 4:01We're
- 4:02getting a lot of physicians who
- 4:05say, yes. I'm burnt out, but I have
- 4:06a lot to give. I just don't wanna
- 4:08be on call, or I don't wanna keep
- 4:09clicking buttons, or I'm tired of every year
- 4:12working harder,
- 4:13for the same amount of money and having
- 4:15to do more administrative burden. And so we're
- 4:18really allowing our doctors to operate top of
- 4:21license.
- 4:22And I'm excited to continue to grow our
- 4:24model because the more burnt out physicians we
- 4:27can serve,
- 4:29the more physicians who can rediscover their joy
- 4:31in medicine.
- 4:32I believe most physicians at their heart went
- 4:34into health care for the right reasons just
- 4:36as most executives
- 4:38and other health care professionals.
- 4:40But, unfortunately, the system has been designed
- 4:43for most of us to turn cynical and
- 4:45pessimistic.
- 4:46And I believe if we can turn that
- 4:48around and provide a better landing ground for
- 4:50these physicians,
- 4:51in turn, we'll be able to serve more
- 4:53patients.
- 4:54In terms of our focus moving forward, in
- 4:56addition to continuing the scale in urology, we're
- 4:59likely gonna be expanding into additional specialties
- 5:02so we can really provide enterprise solutions for
- 5:04our hospital partners
- 5:05and help expand our impact,
- 5:08in the
- 5:09nonurgent
- 5:10outpatient space so other physicians, not just urologists,
- 5:13can find their new home.
- 5:15Got it. Got it. Well, I'm curious to
- 5:17hear from your perspective,
- 5:19as a an entrepreneur starting your own business
- 5:22and as a provider,
- 5:23what advice would you give to emerging leaders
- 5:26looking to have the same success and impact
- 5:28in their careers as you have?
- 5:30Take action.
- 5:32Every day, patients are suffering because they lack
- 5:35access to timely medical care. Every day, physicians
- 5:38are burning out and leaving health care, and
- 5:40that we all must do everything in our
- 5:42power to make the patient physician relationship as
- 5:45frictionless as possible.
- 5:47Right now, there's too many silos and too
- 5:49many internal battles. And and when we do
- 5:52that,
- 5:53patients lose.
- 5:54And it sounds cliche, but if we really
- 5:56look
- 5:57to all the areas where we are in
- 6:00alignment,
- 6:01that if we take great care of patients
- 6:03and we do so by taking really good
- 6:05care of our doctors, making sure they are
- 6:07top of license,
- 6:08everything improves.
- 6:10Quality,
- 6:12revenue,
- 6:13access,
- 6:14patient safety, and most importantly, trust. And I
- 6:17believe that's how we'll win in health care.
- 6:19We've got to take action. We've got to
- 6:21work together, and we've got to remember what
- 6:24the the core of what we're doing is.
- 6:26And it's about physicians taking exceptional care of
- 6:29patients. If we focus on that and make
- 6:31that relationship
- 6:32the
- 6:34primary priority,
- 6:35everything else will get better.
- 6:37Love it. Excellent advice. Well, doctor Pizzona, I
- 6:40wanna thank you for your time today. But
- 6:41before I let you go and while you
- 6:42have the ears of many health care leaders
- 6:44across the country, is there anything else that
- 6:46listeners should know?
- 6:48No. I think the best way to keep
- 6:50in touch would be on LinkedIn, doctor Joseph
- 6:53Pizzona.
- 6:54I try to post regularly some actual original
- 6:58thought, not just AI generated stuff.
- 7:01And,
- 7:02I think that's the best way to,
- 7:04keep,
- 7:05you know, keep in touch and follow what
- 7:07I believe are trends and important things from
- 7:09the perspective of a physician,
- 7:11but also now someone who is focusing on
- 7:13the executive side, who's looking to bridge that
- 7:15gap,
- 7:16to to solve these big problems. So feel
- 7:18free to shoot me a DM there and
- 7:20and connect. And if we can ever serve
- 7:22any of you, I would, I'd welcome that
- 7:24conversation.
- 7:25Sounds great. Well, doctor Bresson, I wanna thank
- 7:27you once again for your time today and
- 7:29for sharing your insights on the Becker's Healthcare
- 7:30podcast. Thank you so much.
- 7:32It's my pleasure. Thank you for having me.