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Unsigned518 - Episode 179 - Dew Point · Unsigned518

• 0:01
  Speaker A: He was born on a Saturday in 73 he loves punk rock music I need to split Cabin in the dazzle Jazz rock now on the beat guitar with a short with radio back his motherfucking envy scrolling look at motherfucker cuz here he comes Andy Sculling wearing his.
• 0:26
  Speaker B: Orange hat welcome to unsigned 518. I am here with Dew Point. How's it going, guys?
• 0:31
  Speaker C: How are we doing?
• 0:33
  Speaker B: And what we're going to do is we're going to start over here to my left and just introduce yourself and what you do in the band.
• 0:39
  Speaker D: Hi, I'm Max, Max Munsert. I play guitar, among a few other things, but that's pretty much it.
• 0:46
  Speaker E: Hello, my name is Makai McClinton. I am a singer at Dew Point.
• 0:51
  Speaker F: Hi, I'm Alex Warner. I'm kind of the photographer and I kind of. I just help out recording.
• 0:58
  Speaker C: I'm Dylan Bruce. I play piano and I'm like the main guy of Dew Point. This is my collaborative project, so.
• 1:04
  Speaker B: Nice.
• 1:05
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 1:05
  Speaker B: So I guess we want to just, you know, I was saying before we got going, like, I have no, no plan. This isn't an interview. It's just a conversation. But I guess just tell me whoever wants to start. I guess you want, if you want to start the conversation, like, how did Dupont get going and tell me the story, what's going on?
• 1:22
  Speaker C: Yeah. So I've always been into music since I was in like elementary school and I brought that to middle school. I started a band that never got together with a couple. Two of my friends in middle school, but that never worked out. We never had an actual, like, jam sesh. But then I got to high school and I started playing more and more and wanted to take it more seriously, wanted to pursue it. And I just had a couple people I was jamming with. And now in college here I met a couple of other people. Like Max, I met because I written this song previous year or two previous years ago. And I was just figuring out like, who's gonna play on it. And my buddy Makai performed a lot with him in high school. We've done a lot of shows together. So I was like, you know what? Makai will definitely, definitely collab on this song. I had a couple of lyrics written for him that I wanted him to sing. And then Alex, we'll definitely touch on that later. But Alex is a real key point of this song just because of the actual visuals of it. He did a lot of effort on that. I mean, that's more on the song. But like the Actual band. I would call it more of a collaborative project. It's not really a band. I know, like the Instagrams dupoint Band, but it's really kind of my project, along with people who want to work with me and people who want to. Yeah, I mean, that's pretty much it. Just people want to work and play music and I'll. I'm pretty much. I like writing lyrics and writing chord progression, so that's kind of my. My thing. And then I have other musicians who are very talented. Come on. And they, they help me out with all the other, other complicated stuff.
• 3:07
  Speaker B: So basically you lay down the. The roots of the song, the. The chords and the lyrics and that it's a. Intended to be a revolving door perhaps of musicians that. That come in. Or is this like the core group and there'll be other people that. That join in?
• 3:23
  Speaker C: Yeah, like this past song, we had another drummer from school come on the song, which. That helped out a lot because I didn't know who's gonna play drums. I didn't know who was gonna play lead guitar in the song. So I was just fine. I had some, some parts written, but then I found Max and I was like, you know what I mean? That's, that's. That's real good. He's a real good guitar player. I was like, you know, he's gotta be on this song.
• 3:42
  Speaker B: And so do you guys all go to college together? Is that.
• 3:45
  Speaker C: Me and Max do, but Makai and Alex, who don't. But they can, they can definitely touch on that if you want to.
• 3:51
  Speaker F: Yeah, sure, Mike. So I guess my involvement with Dew Point really started, I would say, in our senior year of high school. We. We had our college composition class together, me and Dylan, and instead of writing our college essays, we were talking about the song. And, you know, I was really getting into photography at that point. And so, you know, he was like, well, I need an album cover. I was like, oh, well, we should, we should like, we should work on that. And then I guess from that point on, it's like every time he had an idea, you know, he text me and we kind of. We bounce ideas off each other and I guess we kind of. We have this like, kind of creative partnership, I guess that we've kind of like developed from that point. But, you know, we don't all go to the same school. I go to. I go to different college for cyber security. Funny enough, it's not even music related.
• 4:37
  Speaker B: But yeah, I mean, most of it, like my day job. Like, you may be Surprised to notice I have a fucking day job that has absolutely nothing to do with music.
• 4:44
  Speaker F: Right.
• 4:45
  Speaker B: Like, you know, a lot of people are surprised. They're like, so, yeah, we all have. I'll have our pay the bills thing and then our. Oh, this is fun things.
• 4:54
  Speaker C: Right, right, right.
• 4:55
  Speaker F: But, you know, I'm. I like. I like being creative in my free time. And so I. That's what I do with these guys, I guess.
• 5:01
  Speaker B: And so, you know, you contribute to the band, not necessarily musically, but in, like, artistic direction or is there.
• 5:09
  Speaker F: It's. It's a mixture of everything, actually. So when we were recording the song, I spent a lot of time in the studio with Dylan and Max. I wrote some of the harmonies that were on the song. I did a lot of the recording. I helped Dylan out with some vocal stuff. So I was also contributing musically because I do music for fun, so I have experience in it as well. But I'm just kind of always doing. Helping out.
• 5:32
  Speaker B: Right. Wherever it's needed.
• 5:34
  Speaker F: Yeah, exactly.
• 5:35
  Speaker E: Oh, shit, it's my turn. I remember, I think it was like freshman sophomore year. The first time he came to me. Dylan came up to me, I think, around. I think it was lunch. I think it was lunch. And he was putting the song together for the talent show, and he came up to me, he's like, hey, I'm going to do. It was Amsterdam.
• 5:56
  Speaker C: Yeah, it was Amsterdam by Coldplay. I needed. I needed a singer who could sing just real good in the chorus. We can go, like, back and forth. I thought, you know, Makai is like. I've seen him in the past, like, even in middle school, like, he performed Viva La Vida by Coldplay.
• 6:11
  Speaker E: That was like.
• 6:12
  Speaker C: I remember that. It was just so good. He was just such a talented vocalist. So I just wanted to collaborate with him.
• 6:20
  Speaker E: I love talking about it because, like, first it was. It was Viva La Vida. Best song of all time. Only to be followed up. Only be followed up with Feliz Navidad. It was the funniest shit. It was the funniest shit. The second best song of all time. Exactly, exactly. Forget every other artist. Viva la Vida. Feliz Navidad. Best song. But. But, yeah, but in the midst of that is that I also started doing theater. So it was. It was theater on top of. Of singing with Dylan on, like, in talent shows, working on songs like, on hold.
• 6:55
  Speaker B: And so, like, theater. I mean, obviously a lot of theater has a singing component, but more than anything, it's that performance. I think that would help, you know, because, again, a lot of Musicians started out as. It's. You know, I was like. I was like theater adjacent. Like, I wasn't, like, cool enough to be a theater kid. Like, that's what I was cool enough to, like, you know, run the snack carts at the high school productions and. No, but like, it. Because getting in front of people is different than just making music. You know, like, making music in your bedroom is one thing, but when you have to take that and then put it in front of a bunch of strangers, oh, my God. You know, that's a totally different thing. So I think theater is a really good. Good way to cut your teeth, even if it's not necessarily musical theater. But was it musical theater?
• 7:45
  Speaker E: It was musical theater. Absolutely.
• 7:47
  Speaker B: Even better.
• 7:47
  Speaker E: Even, like, these two can absolutely agree that, like, I feel like a lot of my growth is because of musical theater. And even now, my mom asked me, like, oh, how do you. How do you sing in front of all these people? I look her in the eyes, I say, I have no fucking idea. I have no fucking idea.
• 8:06
  Speaker F: Yeah, it's funny because we. I. I did theater as well. I wasn't on stage. I was. I was the lighting guy at school. Oh, yeah, I should probably hold my. I was lighting at school. But I remember, like, through the couple years that I helped out, was involved Makai. I watched him kind of grow as a performer and really come out of his shell. Our senior year, we did Rent, and that show was insane. Like, that was by far one of the most. Like, you moved the entire audience. Um, but that's. That was, like, you shined on that stage. That's where you really, I think, found yourself, from my point of view, as.
• 8:39
  Speaker A: As a.
• 8:39
  Speaker B: As a performer, and I think a lot, you know, because high school, like, band and high school theater, like, doesn't get enough credit for what it does to people later on down the road. You know what I mean? Because just having in. Not even just performing in front of people, but, like, learning the fundamentals of music, even if it's on clarinet, you know, you're like, oh, I played the clarinet, and I gave it up in sixth grade. You still learned music fundamentals. So when you pick up the guitar later on down the road, like, there is gonna be that connection.
• 9:13
  Speaker E: So I. I wish I could say that, because from five years old, I had. I played drums for a good chunk of my life.
• 9:22
  Speaker B: That was my first instrument, too. But it was because I was the chubby asthma kid.
• 9:25
  Speaker E: Oh, my God.
• 9:27
  Speaker B: Same wanted to play fucking saxophone because, like, you know, the saxophone was cool and Shit like that, you know.
• 9:32
  Speaker C: And I called the chicks. Yeah.
• 9:36
  Speaker B: And I couldn't. Because I couldn't fucking breathe.
• 9:40
  Speaker E: For me, it was my sister's. My sister's like violin. I always wanted to play it, but it's like I don't even know how to start. I didn't know how to hold it.
• 9:48
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 9:48
  Speaker E: Like, like the first thing she told me is like the way you hold it. You hold it with your, like your right hand. You hold the neck with your right hand. You put it under your chin. I'm like five year old me hearing this, I'm like, okay, all right, cool. But then Once I reached 5, I started doing drumming lessons at Music Traders. I still remember. I'm very confident considering I gave up at like 10, 11 years old. 10, 11 years old.
• 10:16
  Speaker B: Still got, you know, you still got it. And even if you're not a drummer now and you're a singer, guarantee you that you learned in those drum lessons can be used now like as a vocal.
• 10:28
  Speaker C: Early days of instruments.
• 10:30
  Speaker E: That is debatable. Cuz I can't read sheet music worth a damn. I can't. I can't read it. I can't read it. I can keep a beat. I can keep a beat. I can name like 4x4.
• 10:40
  Speaker B: Sheet music with drums.
• 10:41
  Speaker E: No, to sheet music in general.
• 10:42
  Speaker B: Oh. Because I was gonna say I can't sheet music with drums to save my life. Like, like. And like that blows my mind to see people that are like, oh, what are we playing? Put out the music and just play it.
• 10:52
  Speaker E: I'm like, I was like, if you like, if you like play the song for me. I'll be able like to keep the beat or something similar that if you put sheet music in front of me and say, here, play this.
• 11:01
  Speaker B: Even if it's drums stripped it down. You know, like if you were doing like acoustic guitar and it was like here's the chords. Like if it was a song that I knew you could just throw the chords at me. Exactly. Or like tablature or something. But sheet music on it.
• 11:16
  Speaker E: Yeah.
• 11:16
  Speaker B: It might be like little. Especially like with a keyed instrument like piano. I feel like the world slows down when I get in front of a piano. I'm like, okay, it's A, B, C.
• 11:30
  Speaker E: You know, I'm like the only song I know how to play on the piano is Mary Had a Little Lamb. It's just me just remembering how do I make it different. I think I'll play this assortment of black keys next my moments.
• 11:43
  Speaker B: Like there's a I've got a keyboard right there, and I've got a keyboard over there. And, like, I have my moments where I'm like, I'm learning now. I'm learning how to play the piano, fucking doing it. And then I'll be like, nope, this is very hard.
• 11:53
  Speaker C: Exactly.
• 11:54
  Speaker B: I'm gonna stop now.
• 11:56
  Speaker C: I think it's really important to reflect on, like, early days of music, because I kind of just like, forget my whole story sometimes and why I'm, like, into it. Like, I know the reasons and the things that have driven me to want to pursue it, but it's. There's so much time now. And, like, every single year is adding more time. So now, I mean, in college, I was studying, like, classical piano and early contemporary stuff and romantic era stuff. And, like, Max knows. He saw that. Did you see that performance?
• 12:31
  Speaker D: Yeah, I did.
• 12:31
  Speaker C: I watched it. Yeah, I know that was. That was a funny piece. But just what am I trying to say here? Playing piano in college is like, such a different feeling because I feel like it's so much more pressure on you because it's just you and the piano. It's such an intimate moment.
• 12:52
  Speaker B: And you're also like, college is a pressure cooker anyway.
• 12:55
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 12:56
  Speaker B: So you know what I mean? Like, anything you do has that air of. Of stress and confusion and what the is going on. Like, every. And I'm saying this is. I'm probably old enough to be your grandfathers and shit. Honestly, I probably, you know, 52. Like, I probably am getting close enough to, like. But I still remember that out of high school feeling of just being like, what the is going on? Like, at any point, I'm like, I have no idea anything that's going on.
• 13:24
  Speaker C: Like, and my teacher would put. Put sheet music in front of me. I don't really have a history of, like, being classically trained, so it was just kind of. I got through it, of course. I just took the time to really dive into it. But that, I mean, I'm into rock music, you know, Like, I'm not trying to pursue, but, like, either way, like, I like learning.
• 13:42
  Speaker B: Like, you know, dude, I mean, I don't know if you know who Iron Maiden is.
• 13:45
  Speaker C: Oh, of course. Yeah.
• 13:46
  Speaker B: Like, all of their is classical based. All of it. Like, it's. If you.
• 13:51
  Speaker D: Randy Rhodes.
• 13:52
  Speaker B: Yeah, you played any Randy Rhodes on a piano. You know, refined people be like, that's a wonderful piece, you know, but, like, you play it, put it on a electric guitar with long hair, it was like, yeah, the devil. But it's all based In. In that classical music, you know, and, like, the band Korn. I was just. Do you know who Rick Beato is?
• 14:16
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 14:17
  Speaker B: So I was watching a Rick Beato video, and he. He, like, basically dissects songs. He's like, this brilliant musician. Yeah, well, he'll do with any, like, not any genre.
• 14:28
  Speaker D: He's a YouTuber.
• 14:29
  Speaker B: Yeah. But he'll, like, just dissect the song and be like, this happened here. And it was. He was just doing a thing on that song. Can't remember what, but it was a corn song. And he was like, it's all based in classical. And, you know, he's like, the dissonance of the nine and the diminished, this and this. He's like, it's 100 classical music.
• 14:48
  Speaker C: Yeah, theory. Yeah, theory is really important. It really is. Just, like, when writing this song, theory really came in handy because I found out, like, all the, like, cool things. This is, like, a simple chord progression. But just theory helped me kind of put it on a piano because most of it was written on piano. So that. That helped me a lot. And being in theory while writing the song really, really helped me.
• 15:12
  Speaker D: So rather than just like, hearing something and be like, oh, it sounds good. Now we know why.
• 15:16
  Speaker C: Now we know why it sounds good. The science of.
• 15:19
  Speaker B: And it, like, will help you, like, the more you work within a theory, you know, to be like, I'm gonna work within this theory. Like, you just get to know more and more. And then you can start with different. You know, be like, what if I took a little bit of this and a little bit of this and then create something new? And, you know, that's. It's. But it's all based in theory. Because if it's. If it's not within, like, you know, the proper theory of music, it's going to sound like.
• 15:47
  Speaker C: I mean, the thing is, though, like.
• 15:49
  Speaker D: With knowing theory, now, we can, like, make stuff sound, like, way better.
• 15:53
  Speaker E: Right?
• 15:53
  Speaker C: Yeah. You know what I mean? Exactly.
• 15:55
  Speaker B: That's a real silly point.
• 15:59
  Speaker E: You want to make it sound like that people listen to.
• 16:01
  Speaker B: Right.
• 16:02
  Speaker F: Just making stuff that sounds like. Just making stuff, period. Like, if. You know theory, it makes songwriting so much easier. And I don't. Dylan knows it way better than I do. But, like, in my own experience, I remember I'm like. I'm sitting in my room, I'm trying to write a song. It's like, man, none of this is working. Like, I'm trying stuff, and I'm like, I can't think of anything. And then, you know, you're over Here with these crazy like theory based chord progressions, I'm like, how the fuck does he.
• 16:24
  Speaker B: But even with like, like the circle of fifths. Do you like fuck with the circle of fifths?
• 16:29
  Speaker C: I honestly don't use it too much. I fuck with that shit. Heavy. I don't know. I don't know if it's just because I'm a piano person.
• 16:37
  Speaker D: Oh yeah.
• 16:38
  Speaker C: I mean, I know pianists, like are the theory nerds, but I don't know, I haven't really used it too much.
• 16:45
  Speaker B: I mean, when you sometime and just like literally take it and just be like, do this, this and this and then make a song out of it. And like, you'll be like, I just made like 10 songs in five minutes.
• 16:56
  Speaker C: Once you get the morgasm, that's the music or so I call it piano. And I'll do like some, some cool. And then I don't know, I'll just. It just feels, feels right. And it'll be like, I can name it right? When you can name it, that's where you're really like hyped up and you're like, holy.
• 17:15
  Speaker B: Or when you start something, when you start writing things that just like. You don't even know what's coming next. But then comes. And you're like, oh my God.
• 17:23
  Speaker C: And you like have a melody for it and you're like, holy. I just wrote the next hit. And then next morning you wake up, it's like, oh, why did I write that?
• 17:29
  Speaker B: Oh, you got. You even remember voice memos? Like, I don't know if you use voice memos, voice memos on your phone. Like, I can't even tell you how many times I'm in my car and I'll just be like, listen back. I'm like, nope, that does not make sense. But yeah, every once in a while it will.
• 17:50
  Speaker C: Writing in like the shower, I mean, I mean, I know like a lot of the lyrics of this song that I wrote were heavily came from me in the shower and me like driving.
• 18:02
  Speaker F: Like, I don't.
• 18:02
  Speaker C: You know what it was? It was just this motivation. Like, I know exactly, right? A lot.
• 18:06
  Speaker B: Those are times when you have a chance to free. You know, your mind gets a little bit of a chance to wander. Because like when you're in the shower, you have one thing you're cleaning. When you're driving, you have one thing you're driving. Yeah. Let your mind wander. That's when the shit just starts coming in.
• 18:21
  Speaker E: This is gonna sound weird. I'm like, it's probably gonna Be like, like sound like so like conventional. But to me it's weird. I always get like inspiration for like writing songs when I'm like when I'm working out at the gym, like like in the middle of a rep. Even if it's like oh my God, I remember, I remember for a song I wrote not, not disclosing it here, I gotta, gotta make sure it's not shit. First I was in the middle of deadlifting and then just like the leaves came to head. I'm like, I gotta write this down. Yeah, I had a whole moment forgetting that I'm deadlifting like 240, 250. So my mind's like oh yeah. My body's just screaming at me at work.
• 19:03
  Speaker F: Actually I'll be at work and I'll think of stuff like, like. Cuz I, I work at a Starbucks but we get like no business so I'm like, I'm just not busy. So I'm like, I'm just sitting there and I have like nothing to do. And you know, sometimes on my downtime I'm just like. I'll like just start like humming and I'm like wait, this is kind of fire. Like I gotta, I gotta, I gotta write this shit down. And it's like I don't know. That's actually surprisingly where a lot of like the recent stuff that I made like has come from was. I'm just bored at work and so I just thought of something.
• 19:32
  Speaker C: Yeah, that's actually. Yeah, that's a real good one. Because I still work at Target. So Walking around actually, I mean a lot of this song is tied to me working at Target. Interesting enough. But I would just walk around and these lyrics would come into my head. I'm like, oh, I gotta write that down. I'll like type it into my notes on my phone.
• 19:55
  Speaker E: See they use the Notes app. I just have a riggedy old notebook. I have a rickety old notebook that I haven't used since like fifth grade. And I just put all my songs in it.
• 20:05
  Speaker B: Same. I go, I go like I have to like write it out because again I'm old and like typing just takes me too long.
• 20:13
  Speaker E: And it's like I feel like that goes for a lot of the shit I do. Cuz like oh my God. It's like I feel like it's gotten to the point where it's like like certain words used now like certain slang. Don't ask me what the fuck it means. Don't ask what it means, Ask them what it means. I have no idea. I remember. I remember my cousin said, like, typed out S, Y, B, A, U. I don't know what. I don't know what that means. I had a look at him like, shut your jazz up. That dick.
• 20:43
  Speaker F: So funny.
• 20:44
  Speaker C: Oh, my God, that is funny. I think it's also important to add that me, Makai, and Alex, we all went to high school together, right? I don't think I added that at the beginning, but yeah. No, we all went to high school together and collaborated. Collaborated a lot. Through mostly our junior and senior years, because those are the time. What? That's like 16 to 18 years old. So. So that's the, like, the time. I mean, I'm. I'm 18, so.
• 21:10
  Speaker F: What's funny about it, though, is that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. What's funny about it, though, is I feel like initially, like, I did stuff with Makai because we were in choir together, and we also. I mean, we were just friends. Like, we would, like, hang out and jam sometimes, but then, like, Dylan and I would do stuff together, but we didn't really, like, collaborate as, like, a trio until this song. I mean, I had helped you guys with, like, figuring out, like, lights for the talent show, but that was, like. That was, like, about it. But even though, like, we all went to high school together and we were all, like, interacting, I feel like we didn't really start doing stuff as a group until, like, late senior year, something like that.
• 21:46
  Speaker C: But, yeah, when the boat was sailing, we all stayed close. So, yeah, that's also good to add. What was I going to just add? Yeah, because we were like the COVID year our freshman year for us, so we couldn't really talk to too many people. I didn't really talk to so many people. And then sophomore year was, like, that first year of high school for me, so I. I was just messing around a lot. And I was still playing lacrosse. I didn't have. I didn't take music seriously yet. I was still playing lacrosse. And then I had this injury that really set me back a ton, but that gave me a lot of time to work on music and kind of reevaluate my life. That was like a turning point where I was just like, I'm not gonna do what I been doing for my whole life. Like, I was trying to fit in and be like the other kids and play sports and stuff like that. It just wasn't me. And even in that moment, for my whole life, I just knew it wasn't me. And on my free time, it would be more of like the arts and creating. I've always been creating my entire life recording videos. That was like, more elementary into middle school. I was, like, making videos. Right. Actually, elementary school. I was writing a lot of, like, books and stuff. I wrote so much. Middle school was, like, filming videos, and then high school was, like, the musical time. And that's kind of where I'm still at right now. And that takes everything together that I like. And music is the way where you can do all that stuff. You can write, you can film, you can take pictures and write music. And the music can describe all that. And more powerful than spoken words a lot of the time. So that's what's really cool about.
• 23:19
  Speaker B: I think we should. We should hear a song. I know you brought some acoustic guitars and we were gonna hear the song live here in the Dazzle then. So I guess tell me a little bit about the song before we play it.
• 23:30
  Speaker C: Yeah, I think I'll have Alex and I and Makai and. Well, actually, all of us will definitely describe it. I mean, it's a song that started with. This was almost two years ago now, in July. My buddy sent me chord progression. And that was that first riff that you're gonna hear in the song. We're playing it differently. But the studio recording was that riff that he sent me. And we came in all together, me and two other of my friends, one from high school and then one I met recently at the time. So this is like 2023. We jammed on it, and after that, I was like, whoa, I really like this. Like, this feels like something I've never felt with writing before. And then those. Those first lyrics. So the first lyrics are, give me a second while I take the time to get the lighting right. Those are the first things, that lyrics that came out when I first jammed on it. And then the chorus came out as well. Those first lyrics as well. Why I take it? Why I think it take a day to change. Like, those were two years ago. And then the lyrics were finished in December of 2024. So that was like six months ago now or six, seven months ago, I think. So. It's crazy how this year or this year, this song took almost like two years to fully get down. And, yeah, kind of marinate in a way. But what was about. It's about two or three different things. It's kind of how distance creates obsession. And when. Like, it was a time in my life where everything was new. Like, I got my license, I got a new car. I was seeing places I never, like, driven before meeting A lot of new people listening to a lot of good music. So everything was like dopamine. Was that like an all time high? So when you have that and you have like your time to reflect at night, like in the, in the shower or like driving and stuff, like it all kind of settles and you just get this like load of motivation and inspiration. That's more of the word I was looking for to write whatever was going on at the time. Because at the time I was writing it about like the summer I was in. And then as time went on, it was like fall and then winter. I was writing a bunch until it was for my first year of college. And I really realized that I was still in the time period I was writing it about. That's something I've never like realized before. So I kind of took that and made a couple, made some content about it and really let the lyrics marinate. But that's like the main meaning of it. How distance creates obsession and you obsess over it could be somebody or something that, you know, it's like you get like a hint of it. You can't be really be obsessed with something that is always around, you know, I mean that that obsession's created. And I think on hold is pretty self explanatory of what the song is. Like. I'm holding onto a phone. I'm like waiting. You're waiting. And it's also change. Like the song is a lot about change as well. And thinking that it doesn't take a day to change. It's collectively like to change yourself. And it takes a lot of time. Right?
• 26:51
  Speaker F: Yeah.
• 26:51
  Speaker C: And mending.
• 26:52
  Speaker F: I think at its. At its core it's really just about like learning to. It's. There's a lot of, you know, message in there about moving on as well, how it's important, you know, you can't literally, you can't live a life on hold. It's one of lyrics. It's to grow and change and learn and develop as a human being. You have to learn to move on and learn from the experiences that you've had. But take those experiences and apply them. And I feel like that's like. That was also, I think the fact that it took two years, you're. You were going through it as you were writing it. And so it's. It's very much reflected in the song, but I think it's so interesting.
• 27:29
  Speaker C: Yeah. I'm gonna interrupt you for a second.
• 27:32
  Speaker F: Yeah.
• 27:32
  Speaker C: Alex has, because he was waiting for the song because I was told it's about to come. Like, it took so long for me to get it, like, all recorded. Like, it's a whole story. But once it was, like, actually recording and he saw the process, which. He'll probably talk about that. Yeah, it was kind of like, whoa. Like, he's actually. He's actually doing it, you know? I mean. Yeah, you can add. You can add on that.
• 27:52
  Speaker F: Yeah. No, it was. It was really crazy because, I mean, we had. It was. I remember we were in the studio and. And we were sitting there listening. You showed me the recording, the rough. Like, the rough recording for the first time, and I'm just like, holy shit, this is happening. Like, we've been talking about this for, like, a year, and it's actually. It's actually fucking happening.
• 28:10
  Speaker C: Like, this is.
• 28:11
  Speaker F: This is so crazy. It's not just, like, an idea anymore, but, you know, I guess. I guess it's really just. It's a song about learning to grow emotionally and, like, just take what you've learned in the experiences you've been through and just, like, apply them and moving on, you know?
• 28:26
  Speaker C: Yeah. Don't change for anybody. That's. That's the big part.
• 28:30
  Speaker B: All right, well, let's check out On Hold, Dew Point, and then we'll be right back to wrap it up.
• 28:38
  Speaker G: So give me a second while I take time to get the lighting right. It's been too long since I felt this feeling. Let's make it last all night. And there must be something in your eyes. Or maybe in the way that you dress. Oh, darling, there's no need to fantasize. So just dim the lights and spare me all the rest. And why did I think that it'd take a day to change?
• 29:28
  Speaker A: Just trying to be a better man? For the love that you made?
• 29:38
  Speaker G: You'll find we never found an end to it all?
• 29:47
  Speaker A: She said you keep holding on? I should be letting go.
• 29:57
  Speaker G: Cause every time I pick up the phone? It goes straight to the tone. Can live a life on hold. You gave me a reason. And now I've gone too far. I'll all my riches just to have you near. You're so deceiving. The way that you sing in your dance. I mean it most sincere. And if you gave me just one more chance? Maybe I could change your mind.
• 30:51
  Speaker A: Who am I kidding?
• 30:53
  Speaker G: Babies don't make me wait until Friday night. And why did I think that it'd take a day to change?
• 31:09
  Speaker A: Just trying to be a better man? For the love that you made.
• 31:20
  Speaker C: And.
• 31:22
  Speaker A: Before you find somebody new.
• 31:28
  Speaker C: For you.
• 31:29
  Speaker A: I once could tall but now I fall from the fading memory of you girl. Cause that's what you were just a blur. But in a few months time Girl, you became my world. I once stood tall but now I fall from the very memory of you Girl, you got me down on my knees Now I just feel weak to the thoughts and the voices and the weight of the world. And it just goes over and over and over and over over and over again. Yeah.
• 32:39
  Speaker B: It.
• 33:06
  Speaker G: If it had been for.
• 33:07
  Speaker C: A reason love Then why should I wait?
• 33:10
  Speaker G: Took my hands out my pockets it's.
• 33:13
  Speaker A: Much too late so forget with one last kiss. Cause it wasn't lost but bliss. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 33:30
  Speaker C: Sa.
• 34:12
  Speaker B: All right. That was on hold. Dew point live here in the Dazzle Den. And I want to thank you guys so much for taking time out of your day to come up here and do this. And before we go, I want to give you a chance to say what I refer to as your gratitude. So Max, let's start with you.
• 34:26
  Speaker D: Hi. I'm thankful for and just grateful thanks for you guys. I wouldn't make this song without these guys. And thanks to my girlfriend and other friends and check out my other band, sun in Hand.
• 34:41
  Speaker E: Yeah, I'd like to thank. I like to thank my friends here. Like to thank Dylan, Alex, at Max. I also like to thank my mom because I really wouldn't be able to do any of this without her. I'd also like to thank Michael Jackson and Josh Groban and.
• 35:02
  Speaker F: Man, I want to thank my dad. He got me into the photography stuff. That's his thing. And my girlfriend because she supports me with all the creative stuff. And Makai, Dylan, Max, you know, for bringing me on board and letting me be a part of this because it was. Was really, really, really cool.
• 35:19
  Speaker C: So yeah, of course, I'm just really grateful to had. I've had that space to really it space nurtured for me to write this song. So thank you my mom, my dad, both my brothers and honestly, the people that I that I wrote this song around and the people that the listeners as well as. Thank you. Thank you Alex Makai, Max Sebastian as well. He played drums on here. But also thank you to Matty Healy, who's a big inspiration throughout writing this song from 1975. But this is really. That was really it. So I'm just really grateful and thankful for all the people who worked on this song with me to really make it arrive because it took two years and I didn't know when it was going to be. So very grateful for that.
• 36:11
  Speaker F: And thank you for having us. This is.
• 36:13
  Speaker C: Thank you, Andy. Thank you so much.
• 36:15
  Speaker B: No problem. All right, so they are Dew Point. I am Andy scullin. This is unsigned 518. I'll see you on the road. Unsigned 518 is produced and hosted by me, Andy Scullin. New episodes are available every week wherever you stream podcasts. If you'd like to help support the show, please like and subscribe wherever you are listening. Or you could buy me a coffee@buymeacoffee.com unsigned 518 if you would like to advertise on the show, send me an email at unsigned518mail.com and to be a guest on the show, reach out to me through Instagram signed 518take care of one another and I'll see you next week. Andy Scullin and Scullin.