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Congressman Warren Davidson -- 4/16/26 · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: It's seven five here a fifty five KRCD talks today.
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Speaker 1: Shan Happy Friday, Brian Thomas. Always happy this time of
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Speaker 1: week because we get the benefit of a conversation we
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Speaker 1: collectively a conversation with Congressman Warren david said, welcome back
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Speaker 1: to the program, sir. It's great, great pressure to have
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Speaker 1: you on the fifty five cares In morning show again, sir.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks Brian. Always a pleasure for me as well,
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Speaker 2: and always an honor.
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Speaker 1: Well last time I checked, and thank you for that comments.
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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Last time we talked, the government was
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Speaker 1: shut down. I guess we're still in the government shutdown
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Speaker 1: with dhs uh not getting paid. This is all over
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Speaker 1: Democrats demands for some sort of ice reforms and I
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Speaker 1: am I on the same page with that, or have
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Speaker 1: we advanced beyond that, because you know, war has a
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Speaker 1: way of distracting our attention from a lot of other
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Speaker 1: issues that have been floating around and dominating the news.
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Speaker 1: So back to something I thought was still faster and
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Speaker 1: where are we on that? Congressman Davidson, Yeah, he is
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Speaker 1: still accurate. It's kind of mass because.
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Speaker 2: The president's burning other cash that was designed for a surge,
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Speaker 2: you know, for ice to deal with the ten ten
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Speaker 2: to twenty million people that flooded the country while Joe
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Speaker 2: Biden was here illegally. And so they're burning that kind
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Speaker 2: of surplus cash that was sent over you know as
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Speaker 2: the Big Beautiful Bill last summer. That's not enough to
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Speaker 2: fund day to day operations and continue the kind of
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Speaker 2: higher level effort. So it's a stretch to do it.
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Speaker 2: We've got a month or so of that kind of
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Speaker 2: cash to keep payroll, but they're at least getting paid
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Speaker 2: now and they're not doing it. I really want to
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Speaker 2: do a law let go same last time where it's
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Speaker 2: called the Shutdown Fairness Act. So like granted, if there's
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Speaker 2: a shutdown, and I get there's debates and there's things
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Speaker 2: I would be fighting to reduce in our government and
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Speaker 2: that those kind of reforms won't pass easy. So if
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Speaker 2: there is a shutdown, some part of an agency is
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Speaker 2: always going to be you know essential. For example, we're
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Speaker 2: not going to send the federal prison guards home. They're
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Speaker 2: going to state guard in the federal prisons. If you're
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Speaker 2: essential enough to be at work, the payroll clerk has
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Speaker 2: to be essential to you should get paid on time.
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Speaker 2: In the private sector, that's payroll theft, and it should
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Speaker 2: be considered that for the federal government. So it feels
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Speaker 2: a little less painful right now because President Trump is
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Speaker 2: kind of rating the piggybank to pay this. Honestly, it's
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Speaker 2: probably a stretch. I think Democrats are assuming him saying
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Speaker 2: it's illegal, right, But that's where we're at. So Democrats
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Speaker 2: don't want to negotiate. They simply want to shut down,
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Speaker 2: not just ice. At this point, they've expanded their demands
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Speaker 2: to shutting down customs and border patrol and homeland security investigations.
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Speaker 2: And for some insane reason, the United States Senate went
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Speaker 2: along with that plan and sent us over a homeland
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Speaker 2: security funding bill that explicitly says zero dollars go to
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Speaker 2: those three agencies within only you know, to secure border,
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Speaker 2: to remove the people that are here illegally, and to
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Speaker 2: do the investigations that would disilitate doing that accurately. I mean,
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Speaker 2: it's insane that this even got out of the Senate,
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Speaker 2: let alone, without a vote. And thankfully Mike Johnson said
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Speaker 2: we're not voting on that, So we're not and you know,
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Speaker 2: there's the impasse, and so the sentence now working on
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Speaker 2: a reconciliation bill, which is a magic word that lets
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Speaker 2: them vote with fifty votes instead of sixty, so bypasses
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Speaker 2: the sixty vote rule, and you can take up things
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Speaker 2: that simply do funding. You can't do policy there. But
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Speaker 2: in this case, we don't want the policies. Democrats are
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Speaker 2: ones that want policies that make it impossible for ICE
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Speaker 2: to do their job. So hopefully we'll get that done.
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Speaker 2: I mean, Lindsey Graham is supposedly leading the effort on that,
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Speaker 2: but I'm sure he speaking of being distracted by wars.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure he's very distracted by the Iran war that
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Speaker 2: he's wanted first alone.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no question about that, And of course we
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Speaker 1: can touch upon that in a moment. But I wanted
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Speaker 1: to talk to you about the growing revelations of fraud
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Speaker 1: in like literally every single federal government program and the
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Speaker 1: massive amounts of fraud that are currently being uncovered and
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Speaker 1: props the JD. Vans, who's the now figurehead of leading
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Speaker 1: the fraud investigations. But a lot of work, of course,
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Speaker 1: has been done on the ground and Jdvans and his
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Speaker 1: Anti Fraud Task Force just suspended four hundred and forty
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Speaker 1: seven hospices and twenty three home health agencies in Los
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Speaker 1: Angeles alone. They estimate fraud of more than six hundred
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Speaker 1: million dollars. It's a five and thirty nine thirty nine
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Speaker 1: percent increase from the seventy that previously reported in the
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Speaker 1: beginning of AC or April. So this is the snowballing revelation.
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Speaker 1: We got fraud out there, but in the context of
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Speaker 1: what we were just talking about, the ICE reforms that
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Speaker 1: Democrats are demanding, like no masks, proud you know, have
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Speaker 1: the name displayed, show us their faces obviously to allow
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Speaker 1: the ICE agents to be docks. California is advancing a
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Speaker 1: bill that would post fines and criminal penalties for anybody
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Speaker 1: who exposes information about immigrant service workers, in other words,
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Speaker 1: the NGOs that help facilitate these illegal immigrants and get
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Speaker 1: them services and all that. The bill extends the Secretary
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Speaker 1: of States Safe at Home Program to allow designated Immigration
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Speaker 1: Support Service providers, employees and volunteers who have experienced harm
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Speaker 1: or threats of violence because of their work with immigrants
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Speaker 1: to register, allowing them to keep their addresses out of
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Speaker 1: public records. Wow, I guess it's just a question whose
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Speaker 1: ox is being gored by the general public.
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Speaker 2: Congressman Davidson, Yeah, the Democrats definitely. You know, it is
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Speaker 2: the old saying. You know, if it weren't for double standards,
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Speaker 2: they wouldn't have standards, right, So they violate this kind
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Speaker 2: of stuff all the time. And look, I don't think
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Speaker 2: it's right to go after a worker's in a vigilanti sense, no,
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Speaker 2: But I also don't think it's right for the Department
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Speaker 2: of Justice and state Attorney General to completely ignore the
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Speaker 2: kind of rad that's gone on. And you see Keith
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Speaker 2: Ellison in Minnesota being an accomplice. There's video of him
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Speaker 2: coordinating with the people that are committing the fraud in Minnesota.
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is insane. So obviously there needs to
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Speaker 2: be a federal role here, and there is a federal
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Speaker 2: nexus because it's federal funds that are being stolen. So
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Speaker 2: I think EOJ is really rising to the moment finally
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Speaker 2: on this. And I hope that whomever President Trump designates
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Speaker 2: as the attorney general just builds from here, because investigation
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Speaker 2: after investigations, some of this kind of stuff has had
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Speaker 2: Doge was early on looking at where is all the
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Speaker 2: money going, and the goal was to do two things
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Speaker 2: one go after fraud wasted of use criminally if there's
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Speaker 2: fraud was fraud is a crime, right and if it's
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Speaker 2: just okay, this is ridiculous, why are we paying money
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Speaker 2: to hear? You're like, well, you know, you guys drafted
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Speaker 2: a law to do this. What you find is some
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Speaker 2: of these agencies they don't know all the ways to
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Speaker 2: be able to use their funds. There are people that
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Speaker 2: are wanting access to the funds that have essentially developed
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Speaker 2: a PhD in how the system works, and they have
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Speaker 2: navigated the system and trained their communities to navigate the system.
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Speaker 2: And so some of these things are legal but just
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Speaker 2: offensive and we have to change the law to turn
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Speaker 2: them off.
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Speaker 1: Well, change a law to turn them off. You know,
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Speaker 1: there's a question to be asked here. Where are folks
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Speaker 1: elected officials who drafted the programs that have been so
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Speaker 1: rife with fraud? Were they aware of the loopholes and
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Speaker 1: the issues that could easily result in fraud being committed
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Speaker 1: when they wrote it? Or is this something that they've
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Speaker 1: just it's just been brought to their attention of late,
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Speaker 1: and there's a need for a rewrite or a crackdown
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Speaker 1: because it sounds to me. In many cases where you
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Speaker 1: identify this fraud, the Democrats are trying to defend the indefensible.
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Speaker 1: They seemed to want to keep the programs in place.
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Speaker 1: I mean, Minnesota was a stellar example of exactly that
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Speaker 1: they knew and were aware four years about the leering
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Speaker 1: centers and other nefarious fraudulent activity going on. It was
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Speaker 1: brought to a lot of people's attention. They hid behind
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Speaker 1: the claim that they were being accused of racism. Boo hoo,
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Speaker 1: you know you're being accused of something that you can't
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Speaker 1: be accused of. This is not an act of racism
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Speaker 1: to try to ferret out fraud. This is the American
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Speaker 1: taxpayers dollars that are being stolen.
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Speaker 2: What is that?
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Speaker 1: How is that in any way, shape or form connected
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Speaker 1: to race? Did anybody condemn an entire race of people
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Speaker 1: as being complicit in fraud? No, no one ever did that.
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Speaker 1: We're going after bad guys, and yet the Democrats want
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Speaker 1: to try to defend the programs as written.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're right there. But here let's say, Okay,
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Speaker 2: I don't want to go after all Somalis in Minnesota
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Speaker 2: just because some Somalis were committing you know, welfare raw exactly.
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Speaker 2: But when you talk about yes, there are clear examples
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Speaker 2: of fraud. And as I said, the Turning Gentleman Minnesota
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Speaker 2: is on a video talking coordinating with them about the fraud.
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Speaker 2: But so there was knowledge of some of these abuses.
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Speaker 2: But here here's some crazy data Florida for you. How
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Speaker 2: many Somali immigrants as a percentage are on some form
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Speaker 2: of a means tested program, isn't it? I widely reported
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Speaker 2: eighty one percent. After ten years, that number drops all
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Speaker 2: the way down. Someone's been here in the country for
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Speaker 2: ten years, that number drops all the way down to
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Speaker 2: the seventy eight percent of the Somali population are getting
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Speaker 2: some form of welfare. So that's what I mean. They've
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Speaker 2: developed a PhD In how to operate this system, They've
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Speaker 2: trained others how to do it, and it's become a
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Speaker 2: whole community. Is how we work here. And you know,
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Speaker 2: some of the things they're doing are legal and shouldn't exist.
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Speaker 2: I mean, and you have too low a bar? Is
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Speaker 2: it fraud to say that, like every Somali kid has autism?
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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I hope we figure out how
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Speaker 2: every Somali kid has autism. Uh, but nearly you know,
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Speaker 2: there's just a huge surge in these autism claims because
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Speaker 2: there's other payments associated with it. And maybe they do,
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Speaker 2: maybe they don't, but you don't really have a barrier
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Speaker 2: basically make a claim kid has autism, give them the money.
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Speaker 2: And people have exploited things like that.
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Speaker 1: Well, and the other reality is, I've read a lot
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Speaker 1: of places that these individuals, you know, taking advantage of
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Speaker 1: the social welfare safety net for such a long period
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Speaker 1: of time. They come here, they get the government benefits,
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Speaker 1: They're not necessarily contributing to society in the way you
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Speaker 1: or I might think, like getting a job, paying taxes
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Speaker 1: and being you know, regular good old fashioned American citizens,
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Speaker 1: or at least acting like them. They're economies. These local
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Speaker 1: communities that are filled with these high concentrations of folks
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Speaker 1: getting government benefits serve as their own generation of the
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Speaker 1: economy using the redistributed dollars for American tax payer. They
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Speaker 1: obviously have to eat, they spend that money at grocery store,
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Speaker 1: supporting their local communities. So it's sort of a microeconomic
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Speaker 1: reality that they're living on government dollars that create a
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Speaker 1: government dollar based economy.
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Speaker 2: Well, and they also have enough surplus cash to send
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Speaker 2: back home. Right, true, you look at remittances in a
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Speaker 2: lot of these communities. You know, a huge percentage of
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Speaker 2: the money is the taxpayer dollars that are redistributed from
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Speaker 2: productive portions of the economy to non productive parts. And
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Speaker 2: that money doesn't just stay in the United States. You've
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Speaker 2: got a huge percentage of many developing countries is remittances
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Speaker 2: from places like the United States. And so, you know,
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Speaker 2: I think it's a very reasonable bill to say, look,
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Speaker 2: if your team here to the United States is an immigrant,
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Speaker 2: you're not eligible for means tested programs. I mean, that
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Speaker 2: was one of the conditions back when you know, Ellis
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Speaker 2: Island was there, right certify that you will not be
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Speaker 2: a ward of the state. There's a pre welfare state
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Speaker 2: had a sponsor too, but you had to have a sponsor.
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Speaker 2: So you're here to contribute to the country, not to
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Speaker 2: drain the resources of the country. And making that expectation
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Speaker 2: to me seems seems reasonable. But unfortunately that that you know,
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Speaker 2: loses significant chunks, you know, to twenty percent to third
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Speaker 2: of Republicans won't even vote for that. So obviously Democrats
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Speaker 2: only want more free stuff for more people and no borders.
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Speaker 2: So everyone in the world that wants to come here
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Speaker 2: and get it can get it.
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Speaker 1: Well in a globe full of eight billion people. I
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Speaker 1: wonder if you put the means test to the eight
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Speaker 1: billion people in the globe, how many people would qualify
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Speaker 1: for means tested programs in the United States. I suggest
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Speaker 1: it's probably in the billions itself. We are the beacon.
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Speaker 1: Everyone wants to move here, and our society will literally
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Speaker 1: collapse based upon the social welfare safety net which is
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Speaker 1: extended to literally every person who walks in. Apparently don't
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Speaker 1: Congressman Warren Davidson on the phone. Renewal of section seven
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Speaker 1: to two of fives of the Foreign Intelligence Act. This
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Speaker 1: is one of Judge Intena Paulatona's favorite comments or topics,
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Speaker 1: because of course it is a clear violation or a
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Speaker 1: fourth Amendment rights to be free of unreasonable searches and seizures.
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Speaker 1: And say, well, the government can listen to any conversation
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Speaker 1: we had with a foreign national and then out to
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Speaker 1: six people or something, listen to anybody, listen to conversations
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Speaker 1: with anybody who's talked with a foreign national, maybe speaking
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Speaker 1: with a relative or something. Anyway, it has to be renewed.
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Speaker 1: The renewals fasted, pro the expirations fast approaching, folks, Many
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Speaker 1: people like him, as Senator Ran Paul and others are
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Speaker 1: against renewing it for the foregoing reasons. Maybe elaborating on
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Speaker 1: him a little bit. Where's Congressman Warren Davidson, And is
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Speaker 1: the solution which suggested by Representative Clay Higgins a provision
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Speaker 1: an amendment which would require the government to obtain a
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Speaker 1: warrant for US persons queries under section seven h two.
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Speaker 1: Sounds like it might satisfy some of the concerns, but
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Speaker 1: is that provision. Is this revision going to be incorporated
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Speaker 1: into the renewal?
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Speaker 2: Is it not?
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Speaker 1: Where are we Congressman Davidson.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been an extension, extensive discussions, you know, for
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Speaker 2: years on this. It's been one of the Privacy's been
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Speaker 2: one of the most central things I've worked on. And
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Speaker 2: so the foreign intelligence Surveillance Program is designed to get
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Speaker 2: foreign intelligence. And whenever you target bay foreign it's not
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Speaker 2: all foreign things. It's a targeted list of foreigners that
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Speaker 2: you're collecting intelligence on. And whenever you're collecting intelligence on
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Speaker 2: that target list than Americans, that iss are swept up.
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Speaker 2: And often this would be, for example, if you happen
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Speaker 2: to have someone in your family tree who is a
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Speaker 2: leader of a cartel. You know, you're just calling home
16:12
Speaker 2: to talk to mom, but you're asking, you know, well,
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Speaker 2: how's the jobbing doing well? You know, he seems to
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Speaker 2: be doing fine, he got in the car or whatever.
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Speaker 2: Then you know that your communications get swept up. So
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Speaker 2: those are the kinds of things that happened, but they're
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Speaker 2: way more benign kinds of conversations that are swept up
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Speaker 2: in this. But what we're focused on is when this
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Speaker 2: shifts from foreign intelligence to now it becomes a domestic
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Speaker 2: law enforcement issue. And you're not like incidentally collecting information
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Speaker 2: from American citizens. You're intentionally going into that database to
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Speaker 2: search an American citizens database. You're not trying to understand, well,
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Speaker 2: there's a shipment, who's doing the shipping, where's this going,
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Speaker 2: what's going on?
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Speaker 1: Elements that would serve as probable cause for crime?
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Speaker 2: Right, And once you've once you've got that kind of information,
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Speaker 2: and now you go, oh, now I want to understand
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Speaker 2: what Brian Thomas is doing. Now you enter that in
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Speaker 2: Now you need a warrant. Right, So if you're going
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Speaker 2: to shift towards a domestic law enforcement purpose, then then
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Speaker 2: you need to get a warrant. And I think we're
17:25
Speaker 2: going to get there. I think we're going to get there.
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Speaker 2: There are some practices that they do that are safeguards there.
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Speaker 2: What we're going to do is document some good reforms
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Speaker 2: that we got last time, but also make it very
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Speaker 2: clear that there is an audit trail. People say, oh,
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Speaker 2: well they got a warrant when they have used President
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Speaker 2: Trump and so the warrant itself, isn't that they have
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Speaker 2: a safeguard, And that's a fair that's a fair assessment.
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Speaker 2: We need other reforms and have gotten some other important
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Speaker 2: reforms to get safeguards there. But there's an audit trail
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Speaker 2: because there was a warrant. There was no paper trail.
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Speaker 2: You would just be you know, well, I hear they
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Speaker 2: were looking at things. What kinds of things were they
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Speaker 2: looking at? Well? Things? Because there's a warrant requirement and
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Speaker 2: a warrant was in place when they violated President Trump's
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Speaker 2: privacy and weaponized the Intelligence Service to go after him,
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Speaker 2: you have an audit trail. So that's just at the
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Speaker 2: most basic level, you want the audit trail. And if
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Speaker 2: it does turn into domestic law enforcement, you know, anyone
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Speaker 2: who's targeted for law enforcement, they believe there's probable cause,
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Speaker 2: they believe there's a crime, they go to a grand
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Speaker 2: injury and get an indictment, and then of course the
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Speaker 2: you know, innocent until presume, you're presumed innocent until proven guilty,
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Speaker 2: and so you're supposed to have access to all of
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Speaker 2: the evidence that's being you know, levy against you, all
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Speaker 2: the things that they looked at to say, see, you
18:53
Speaker 2: committed a crime, then the defense is supposed to have
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Speaker 2: access to that. And so this just levels those kinds
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Speaker 2: of things up. If we get it done and I
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Speaker 2: think we're awfully closed, well you know what, don't get
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Speaker 2: it done this week. I think that we'll probably have
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Speaker 2: a short term extension in order to get it done.
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Speaker 1: Well, the good thing about the warrant requirement, if you
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Speaker 1: go through and you've got the documents, the government must
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Speaker 1: hand over to a defendant anything that might lead to
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Speaker 1: his defense. So even if they aren't going to use
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Speaker 1: it in court, they got to produce it because it
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Speaker 1: might help out the defense. The other corollarya is if
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Speaker 1: they get evidence from the PISA searches and it's subject
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Speaker 1: to a warrant and they try to use it in
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Speaker 1: court against you in a criminal proceeding, you can file
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Speaker 1: emotion to suppress evidence, arguing that it was obtained unconstitutionally,
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Speaker 1: which would bring the PHISA courts and its actions before
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Speaker 1: a judge for the first time.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, well, there have been some some proceedings
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Speaker 2: against the PI the court, and you know some of
19:53
Speaker 2: the things they do or classify, and so they do
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Speaker 2: have Article three. Judges and Article three courts that stayed classified. Yeah,
20:00
Speaker 2: so there are things there that you would say, yeah,
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Speaker 2: there are times where we've got even court opinions that
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Speaker 2: say there have been abuses of the system. But nevertheless,
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Speaker 2: I think the tool itself is an important tool when
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Speaker 2: targeting foreigners. So if you look at like, how do
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Speaker 2: we find the intel to go after Maduro for example, Well,
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Speaker 2: we have a whole range of intelligence tools to do that.
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Speaker 2: Seven oh two is one of those tools. And so
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Speaker 2: there are there are some tools that are I think
20:32
Speaker 2: really important for us to have in our kit bag.
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Speaker 2: I believe by that itself is a program worth preserving.
20:39
Speaker 2: I do think we've seen way too much expansion. So
20:43
Speaker 2: it's hard to say that it's swept up American citizens
20:50
Speaker 2: you're getting when you're essentially targeting every public Wi Fi
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Speaker 2: hotspot and harvesting all the information off of that, it's
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Speaker 2: hard to say, well, it's just incidental collection on America
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Speaker 2: and citizens when you're literally buying whole data sets about
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Speaker 2: Americans and pumping it into the database. Right. So there
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Speaker 2: are four more abuses here, and that's one of the amendments.
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Speaker 2: I've got to the fourth amendments not for sale and
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Speaker 2: buying the data at this point is the problem. But
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Speaker 2: where it's headed and is already a little ways down
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Speaker 2: the road with artificial intelligence, is they don't even possess
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Speaker 2: the data. They just lease it from a company like
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Speaker 2: Talenteer that goes out and harvest is data in every
21:31
Speaker 2: way possible. And if you look at the Executive Order
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Speaker 2: on artificial intelligence, it basically says, oh, you've got an
21:37
Speaker 2: AI company. Well, the main goal is to beat China.
21:40
Speaker 2: So however you get the data, you know, just go
21:42
Speaker 2: get data, build models and get there ahead of China,
21:46
Speaker 2: including if it means being like China. So I think
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Speaker 2: that's a real hazard with the approach on an artificial intelligence.
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Speaker 1: Fair enough, Congressmore and Davidson, appreciate the time you're willing
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Speaker 1: appreciate your what your approach government and your thoughts and
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Speaker 1: ideas about the reforms that are I think indeed necessary
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Speaker 1: with Faiza, wishing the best of luck getting the government
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Speaker 1: back open, and I look forward to another conversation with
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Speaker 1: week between now and then, sir.
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Speaker 2: Thanks Brian, I hope we can restore some privacy for
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Speaker 2: the American citizens and always an honor. God bless you
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Speaker 2: and your listeners.
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