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I got canceled (The Truth) · The Bow Disciples Podcast

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  So tell me about being on your own.
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  For Yeah. So being on my own, I am.
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  I cut my own hair and I'd, I need a little help in the back.
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  There's some sections I couldn't reach, so I'll need you for that
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  one. I cut my own hair.
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  I colored my own hair. I redid the whole bathroom while
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  you were gone. So I wallpapered the whole
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  bathroom, hung up some deer skulls in there, put up some new
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  shelving, got some crown molding, you know, just all the
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  things, Redid the shadow box, put in new flash shelves.
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  That project took a little while, but it came out very
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  good, very good. Then I started tearing down all
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  the backsplash in the bathroom that I haven't finished yet.
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  So I figured if I start it, at least, you know, now I have to
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  finish it whether you're home or not.
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  What else did I do? I went and watched Reagan the
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  the doggie poo for a few days up in Ramona and spent quite a few
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  days looking for turkeys. You know, just to come to the
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  realization that they only live on private land in California
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  and turkeys refused to live on any sort of public or public
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  that you can access because it's surrounded by private and.
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  Oh geezo, peak. I went to the bear Ash shoot.
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  Oh yeah, Lady Heady. That's fine.
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  And that's all the things I think I did.
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  It was plenty of things to keep me busy for for 10 days or so.
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  I'm jealous that I missed the bare off shoot two years in a
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  row. I think somewhat fed by the
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  narrative that's going to come up later in this video.
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  I almost think people think like some of the locals that that's
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  like intentional on my part. It's definitely not.
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  I just I've been gone. Last year I was in Texas.
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  This year I was going to start. That.
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  This year South Africa that of course gets spawn into me like,
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  I don't know, being like I. Heard that from any.
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  That I remember here at that, yeah.
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  But yeah, I would love to make it.
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  For the person who you know, goes to like probably in the,
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  you know, world of people who think they're in the influencing
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  world or social media or content creator world or whatever you
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  may call it of San Diego. Interesting thought considering
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  you're one of those people who go to probably the most.
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  Yeah, it's not easy. It's not.
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  Anybody. It's not even in that category.
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  It's not even debatable. And I go film and and promote it
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  and, and, and also you also have to keep in mind numbers do
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  matter. And my numbers are the biggest.
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  So not only do I go, but I also do videos and I get the biggest
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  numbers. The people that were saying
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  like, oh, you know, like James, you know, we roll in sport like
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  that. First of all, do no numbers.
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  They do no videos and they don't show up.
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  Yeah. Crazy.
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  What are we talking about? What But?
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  We'll get into that so. But yeah, I think that this has
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  been a podcast that needs to happen for a long time.
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  And I just flew for about 27 hours straight.
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  Just so everyone knows, I literally just got off plane.
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  Just got. Home.
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  I made you take a shower. Because you.
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  Yeah. Even what I added, but the truth
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  of the matter is that like, you know, the work, the grind
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  doesn't stop. I don't look at what I do as a,
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  as a job. I, I feel like I'm always having
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  fun doing what I would do anyways.
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  And I still feel like that. But sometimes after 27 hours of
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  flying, you would like to just chill.
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  But this is a podcast that's super important.
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  And this is something I've been wanting to talk about for a
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  long, long, long time because, and I'm going to let you lead it
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  because we, we kind of have, we've, we've kind of talked
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  about it. But the truth of the matter is I
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  haven't talked about this situation, which the reality of
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  most of the people listening don't know shit about this.
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  Most of the listeners don't know shit about this.
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  It's maybe 100 locals that know about this, right?
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  And this podcast is for them. So if you're not one of those
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  people, sorry, you might want to check out.
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  But for me, it's I've been waiting for the day to talk
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  about this because I took good guidance.
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  You know, from what I thought myself, from what Matt told me,
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  from what my maybe my parents told me, from advice you, from
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  what you told me, from what people were giving me was the
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  best out, the best approach I could do was to not say
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  anything. And that's what I did for
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  multiple years while I let people talk shit about me and
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  gossip like 12 year olds behind my back.
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  And I knew it was happening because people were coming back
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  to me and all I did of the person with the biggest platform
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  of the three people in it, by a long shot, I mean bigger than
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  both of the other two combined, times 10, still bigger.
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  I chose to not say anything and I'm very, very proud of that.
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  But but now is my time to give my peace.
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  And after this, I'm never going to talk about it again.
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  This is it for me. But I'm still not going to say
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  their names because the reason these people brought me on
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  under, brought me in anyways was because they wanted to use me
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  because I was more famous than them.
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  Let's just be realistic, that's why.
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  And I'm not going to give them any shine by saying their names.
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  If you know who they are, that's great.
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  For the 100. But if the locals but if you
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  don't. But if you don't, I'm not, I'm
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  not. I'm not giving it.
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  The tea is still great. Trust me.
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  Tea is still great, but I'm not telling you who it is.
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  Yeah. And I, I will say you before we
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  we get into the, the questions and whatnot that I have to kind
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  of help facilitate. Yeah, you wanted me.
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  I. I wanted I was, I mean, from
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  there you go, I was, I was, let's clap back, you know, and
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  that's I, it's just me. It's my personality.
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  I it's not that it is like sitting back and taking it.
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  I think that's the way some could view it.
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  But in my mind, I feel like it's a a personal assault of which I
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  I cannot do. My personality does not allow
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  for. I can't just sit back and take
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  it. I will clap back so.
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  Oh, and let me let me, let me respond to that and then let's
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  get into the list. The only reason that I took that
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  approach is one I thought it was more professional than
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  gossiping. I I always say let immature
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  people play in the mud, so I let them play in the mud.
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  I never. Play in the mud.
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  Well, I never did that. So like you would go to the bow
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  and arrow shop, for example, and people would be talking shit
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  about about about me, the guy who been there since.
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  They had heard and talking at themselves.
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  Hold up, a guy who been there since 2000 and five, 2005 got
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  more hunting talent than both of these individuals by a mile?
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  Let's just be realistic. Got more clout than both of them
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  by a mile. One has next to none almost,
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  period. But both of them are in there
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  talking shit about me like they're better talking down to
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  me after I gave them a platform. Yeah, there's no chance.
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  But so all I did was say, you know how I'm going to win this.
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  I wasn't even trying to win, but how I'm going to get past this
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  without getting canceled? Because let's be realistic,
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  that's what they were trying to do.
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  They were trying to cancel me, Get Me Out of here.
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  The only way I was winning that was by showing up as myself
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  unapologetically, just moving forward.
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  And then I saw the biggest year of growth in my whole life.
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  But let's hop into the. Question.
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  So I'm going to I'm going to facilitate and let me get my my
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  teacher glasses on here. And I I'm posting this shit on
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  and by they. Still gaking about.
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  My by the way, I'm posting this unedited because I just don't
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  care anymore. What are they going to do to me?
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  Both of them are retired, so I'm they're retired.
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  I'm going to, I'm going to. Oh, yeah, I'm going to guide.
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  Yeah. I'm, I'm going to guide,
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  facilitate and lead this conversation.
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  And you're going to remain calm. You know, there's no anger in
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  this. This was years past now.
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  Yeah. So this story you know, kind of
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  like you see the warning disclaimer only for
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  professionals or whatever. This story is given from the
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  viewpoint of one or two maximum people only.
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  It's their personal recollections of events and
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  statements made and things that took place.
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  So for anybody watching who has an inkling of understanding of
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  this story, just keep in mind that this is from, I wouldn't
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  call it perspective because I don't like that in our personal
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  opinion. The reality is.
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  Your take? Sure, but the reality or the
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  reality is anyone who knows about this story has heard me
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  slandered heavily for the that's.
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  Just we're going to get into all of that.
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  We're going to get in. So I wanted to we want these
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  people. Go ahead, go ahead, start.
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  I think the way I'd like to start this.
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  Is. I I see it he being TMZ.
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  Yeah, TMZ is like gossip channel shitting on.
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  It I didn't answer that was it, but that's.
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  Actually, what I want to start there.
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  You want to start on the TMZ shit, let's do that.
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  So this guy, one of the two dudes, well 1 is a dude the
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  anyway, one of them put up this post one time.
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  Just obliterating this is in his opinion, he's obliterating.
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  Ironically now my friend Josh Bomar shout outs Josh Bomar, a
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  dude of much more integrity than the people we're talking about.
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  Not even debatable, right? He shits on him.
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  He's heavy to his thousand followers just.
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  Randomly out. Of no, Joshua know who this guy
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  is, you know what I mean? And he goes, what do you what do
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  my followers think? Should I keep doing this?
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  So I call him as a friend at the time and I said yo, I think this
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  is like a horrible look. Well, I was there for this
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  conversation. I know that you're going to
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  start to get a little heated throughout this conversation,
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  but I will say your take on the conversation was very level
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  headed. I think they're started out the
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  conversation something like along the lines of saying like
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  you know, you asked for your friend's opinions so that is
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  what I'm giving you. I know you may not like it but
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  you asked for it. So here's my truthful opinion.
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  So that's how the whole conversation started.
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  Like one this person asked for his friends opinions and takes
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  on what was posted and their thoughts on him doing this and
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  you gave it. Yeah.
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  And at the time, at the time we were super tight as well.
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  So you thought, I thought, which I heard later was inaccurate.
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  We'll get into that later. But I gave an opinion as a
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  caring friend and I said, I'll be honest with you.
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  I think this makes you look like a jealous hater.
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  And his response was well, well, you know, so many of these
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  influencers, which by the way, he's trying to be at the time.
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  Let's let's be honest, he's trying to be an influence.
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  Yeah, well, when you're talking about one of my followers, think
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  like you can't claim that you're not trying to be an influencer.
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  I digress. I digress, I say to him.
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  I said, hey look, if you're going to hate on.
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  Well, yeah, I don't think he's finished saying because I cut
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  you off. What his response to you saying
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  Look you look like a jealous hate.
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  Well, I said, oh, yeah. So I said you look like a
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  jealous. You look jealous right now.
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  I'm just being honest. You look jealous because this
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  dude is richer than you, more successful.
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  He's got a hotter wife than you. Just be realistic, right?
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  And he goes, Oh, well, no, I, I just, you know, sometimes people
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  have these followers and they think like blah, blah, blah.
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  Basically it was like he basically doubled down on what I
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  said and like, I don't like him because he has followers.
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  And I said I I verbatim, I said if you dislike him because he
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  has lots of followers and fans and Cloud or whatever, it's only
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  a matter of time till you hate me and cut in the ass.
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  I said that verbatim. A shit you're not.
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  Within two months, Stu tries to. Kill.
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  Let's, let's continue. I'm going to kind of go in and
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  keep checking in on the wigs occasionally.
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  I think that's a crazy part. It is.
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  It's almost like a crazy foreshadowing to this whole.
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  Situation, yeah, we kind of jumped forward.
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  It actually hasn't been start. Yeah, yeah.
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  But so we're going to kind of go in chronological order.
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  I ain't here in a sequence of events.
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  So we're going to roll back time.
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  By the way, is a battery may die?
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  If so, I'll replace it. Won't keep going but this pod
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  might be longer than normal because I really want to dive
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  into each were these topics because I'm never touching this.
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  That you'll make a little edit here, but I do want you to try
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  to stay level headed like. No, no, we don't.
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  We don't need it. We just, we'll just keep going.
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  OK. Yeah.
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  OK. So anyways, we're going to roll
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  back time here to your first archery shoot that you put on or
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  put on in collaboration with. Now I'm going to preface that to
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  people and you may include this in your story as well so you can
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  elaborate if you'd like, but this was not the first shoot
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  that you had. And this shoot took place in
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  2020 year first official one that was put on in 2022 you.
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  2022. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, yes, 345,
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  yes, because the third year Buddha Cyprus Challenge .22 Yep.
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  This was not the first shoot that you had ever had planned,
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  correct You had, and this comes into an important fact later in
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  the story. Major League key receipt.
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  Major a key receipt everybody could a check mark here in the
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  conversation and note it, highlight it in your textbooks
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  you have planned to put on a shoot previously.
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  Tell me about that first. Yeah, so, but I'll say it was
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  actually somewhat inspired by one of the two people I had beef
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  with, because I have no problem getting people shine if it's
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  true. But one of these two people
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  actually had put on a couple shoots and they went really
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  well. And I, I thought it was super
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  cool and I was inspired by that. And I was also inspired by Total
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  Archery Challenge and what my friends in Yuma do.
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  I was inspired by a lot of things.
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  So anyways, in 2020 I had a discussion with Bear State Bow
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  Hunters about doing a shoot Collaborative Shoot 2.
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  Years prior to the first shoot you ever collaborated to put up.
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  Yeah, to be honest with you is probably a little bit premature
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  in hindsight. I don't think I had the cloud at
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  the time to sell the tickets. And so it's kind of it's in a
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  way a blessing it didn't pan out.
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  But the the truth of the matter is I met with the board, I was
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  at the restaurants like we had all the meetings.
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  In fact, I even had I can go pull it out the Google Drive.
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  It's not a lie. I.
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  Said Flash. It I haven't done the
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  promotional video as well real and I know the song like I know
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  everything I used for it. The name was trash.
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  Like I I wasn't good at the time, I really wasn't.
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  But it was planned 2020. And then what?
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  Happened. Well, hold on, there's one other
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  key part. It was supposed to replace the
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  date of the Oak Valley Challenge, which is the third
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  weekend of May. For decades, that's been the
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  weekend of the Oak Valley Challenge.
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  Very key point in this as well. And yeah, Long story short, I
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  was literally a week out from putting out the promotional
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  video and COVID hits and the shoot gets shut down and we
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  don't do it. And that's the truth of the
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  matter is that we had it every, every T was crossed, T was
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  crossed, I was dotted, everything was ready, contract,
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  everything was finished. And the only thing that top of
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  it was was COVID, but it was ready so.
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  OK, so let's Fast forward now to a little less than two years.
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  You you'll have to fill me in on the details as the as well as
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  the viewers here. I don't know if it was a call
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  and I could probably was an IGDM or something and you get asked
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  to go shoot at Morley Field with somebody and that's where this
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  kind of all stops. So just tell me how that
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  relationship with this person began.
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  Yeah, so I was aware. And you've preface who this
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  person is. I'm not going to say.
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  No, no, no. That's not what I'm saying.
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  I'll, I'll do it. This is the person who you put
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  on one of the two who you put on.
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  Yes, your fruit first. This is where the beat this.
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  Is where as a relationship yeah started.
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  Yeah. So anyway, I think yeah,
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  probably was an Instagram message.
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  I would have to dig back in the archives, but I think that's
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  probably what it was. Me and this individual meet up
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  at Morley Field to shoot and I was apprehensive because I had
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  the other. So funny how it works out.
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  I had the other person of the two in my ear that like, oh,
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  that person is trash. All they care about is
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  influencers and stuff like that which.
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  You said at the. Time.
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  But, well, you just can't even make up the irony, right?
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  So I go meet up with the other one and we shoot together and we
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  have fun. It's just the two of us, me and
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  her shooting having a good. Now, this is not the time that
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  somebody else came. I still won't name names, but
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  somebody else came and you were told, oh, they're famous.
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  No, no, no. I was much later.
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  That was much later. I'll get to.
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  So you have fun. I remember you coming back and
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  saying you had fun and because of what I had also heard from
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  the same other person I know, I remember telling you how I was a
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  little apprehensive of this person and you said.
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  Do you want me to talk about the shoot more of our time at the
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  range? Sure.
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  Yeah, Yeah, there's more details to that.
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  Yeah, there's, there's a little bit more.
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  So we shoot and the personality is harsh.
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  It's a, it's a, it's a brash personality.
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  But I'm kind of drawn to that, to be honest, in some ways with
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  different people. So I was, I was like, I heard
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  the message. And look, the reality is even
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  then, I knew that this person doesn't have the hunting
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  experiences. They they don't have the
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  shooting skill as me, not even in the same stratosphere.
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  Yeah. And I'm aware of that.
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  That's OK. I don't.
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  You don't have to be a a superstar hunter to, like, do
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  something cool. Right.
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  So I'm just hearing the message and analyze them because even at
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  the time, and I bet I had 6000 subscribers, even then, I was
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  way bigger, right? So to me, it was important to
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  like, if I'm going to cosign something, I need to make sure
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  that I, I, I think it's genuine and with good ethics in mind.
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  And I left there and went, you know what?
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  I do think that this person has like, good goals and ambitions,
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  you know? And I came home and I told you
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  that. And that's when you told me,
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  hey, I would be careful. Something to me seems real
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  sketchy. Red flaggish.
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  You did say that. And at the time it was a little
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  a bit of like, you know, that was, I mean, gosh, younger in
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  our relationship, couple years of knowing each other.
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  Yeah. So yeah, I don't even know if
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  we're at the one year mark by the time that you went to shoot.
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  And so probably could have come off at the time of like a like
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  Jeff. Heck yeah.
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  Jealous Hurley could just be you.
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  Know I didn't even take it that way, yeah, but yeah.
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  But you know, so it just the stars couldn't align at the time
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  to take, you know, my thought and at the time what you were
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  being told from ironically the other person.
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  But so is that it to the shoot that day, your introduction to
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  this person? Yeah.
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  So anyway, you know, I talked to you about it and I think to
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  myself, I go, you know what? I think this is a good
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  opportunity for me to help her and make her event bigger.
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  But before I did that, I wanted to make sure I actually went to
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  one of her events. Yep, Yep, Yep.
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  So I went up there with my dad and by the way, I have receipts,
• 22:49
  right? The video I put on YouTube, it's
• 22:52
  not on there anymore, but it's still unlisted.
• 22:56
  So don't get it straight. I got it if we need that, right?
• 23:01
  So I go up there. I shit you not, Brianna, there's
• 23:06
  like 12 people at the shoot. I'm not, I'm not kidding.
• 23:09
  I have it on film. So unsafe.
• 23:13
  This course is so unsafe. It's unbelievable, right?
• 23:17
  And we've been to a couple different unsafe shoots.
• 23:21
  But anyway, OK, I digress. I go film it.
• 23:27
  We leave. It's in the video Once again, I
• 23:30
  say I don't really know what it is.
• 23:32
  You can tell I'm being so honest.
• 23:34
  I go, I don't really know what this is, but I believe that this
• 23:38
  lady has good intentions. I say that in the video.
• 23:42
  I shit you not. Where are you going to have to
• 23:47
  go back and? Watch this.
• 23:48
  Yeah, yeah, I have receipts, right?
• 23:51
  So anyway, that was when I made the decision I go.
• 23:57
  So were you, let me ask you a question, Were you approached in
• 24:00
  that first meeting of this person asking you to hang out
• 24:04
  and shoot bows at Morley? Were you approached right away,
• 24:08
  that first meeting about the potential, the talk discussion
• 24:13
  of like a little light rating on a shoot?
• 24:16
  No, that was my idea. This is my I.
• 24:20
  I set the setting. Part yeah so but so I do the
• 24:24
  event at her house, film it and I go, OK, I I would like to help
• 24:29
  her Yeah, I shit you not. I go I would like to help her.
• 24:33
  I think I can I think I can bring it from 12 people to like
• 24:38
  maybe closer to 100 with my platform at the time just so
• 24:42
  nuts. But I honest to God hand on the
• 24:47
  Bible I call her and I said, hey look, I want to do this event
• 24:53
  with you and collab on it. I think these are some good
• 24:56
  ideas, but I'm not doing it unless this other guy can do it
• 25:00
  too. Yeah, and you wanted him.
• 25:03
  You can explain that a little bit too.
• 25:06
  I wanted him to build the courses.
• 25:08
  That was kind of like his signature thing.
• 25:10
  Yeah, I said. Unless he can do it, I'm not in.
• 25:13
  Because this person had already previously set up courses but
• 25:17
  before, right? Yep, Yep.
• 25:19
  And I hadn't at the time. And she says, OK, yeah, that's
• 25:23
  great, sounds good. So I call up the other guy.
• 25:26
  Hey, here's what I'm thinking, blah, blah, blah.
• 25:29
  He goes, ah, I don't really, I don't really mess with her.
• 25:34
  Like I'm not. I don't think I'm in.
• 25:37
  She's too much of an influencer for me, essentially.
• 25:40
  Remember, he hates influencers. And I said to him, I said, hey,
• 25:46
  I understand. I understand what you're saying.
• 25:49
  I've kind of caught that a little bit too.
• 25:51
  But I just want you to give it a thought.
• 25:53
  I gave her a chance, and I believe that what she's doing is
• 25:57
  authentic. So I think you should give it a
• 26:00
  shot. Yeah, wow.
• 26:03
  They end up they end up they end up getting they end up agreeing
• 26:07
  to it. So the three of us, it works
• 26:10
  out. Three amigos were doing a shoot.
• 26:12
  Everything works out. So you're getting fun person,
• 26:15
  but but but key key, key point. I was the one with the idea to
• 26:21
  do it and I put the other two people together.
• 26:24
  They didn't even want to be friend.
• 26:26
  They didn't fuck with they don't.
• 26:27
  They didn't fuck with each other at all.
• 26:28
  So keep that in mind. Very important.
• 26:30
  Yeah, definitely so. And this is all true, by the
• 26:32
  way. To summarize so far, and you
• 26:34
  want to hang in there because it seems like, well, where's the T?
• 26:38
  It's oh, I think there's all right.
• 26:39
  They're already it was crazy is how like this all?
• 26:43
  Do you think either of them will reach out to me to this?
• 26:46
  Who knows? Probably I.
• 26:48
  Think they're so far retired they can, but yeah.
• 26:51
  No, you'll hear about it. It won't be through them.
• 26:54
  I already got a person in mind. It's what you've all.
• 26:56
  It's what you're all a sublime like my my shots aren't sublime.
• 27:00
  I'm just telling you like a little story.
• 27:03
  Well, you'll hear from somebody who's heard.
• 27:05
  I know. But anyways, so to summarize,
• 27:10
  you then have reached out to her about, you know, helping to
• 27:15
  collaborate on an event. You tie in the other person to
• 27:19
  build the courses, you're going to market the event, and you're
• 27:22
  using the other person's land to host.
• 27:27
  The event yeah, essentially one's offering land one is
• 27:30
  offering course building 1 is offering promotion and don't get
• 27:34
  it twisted like, and I don't really care about this.
• 27:37
  This is not my sword to die on, but I'm not a bitch when it
• 27:40
  comes to work. So I I promise I'm always down
• 27:43
  to work, but it out of physical ship building course blah blah
• 27:47
  blah. Obviously I build, I build all
• 27:51
  about disciples courses, right with help.
• 27:53
  But my point is during that course build, which by the way,
• 27:57
  it was like the easiest course build of all time is 10 acres,
• 28:00
  but it's not that hard. We're talking about how you're
• 28:06
  not afraid to build courses for health.
• 28:08
  Deal. Exactly.
• 28:08
  Yeah, yeah, I'm not a bitch of like labor.
• 28:11
  So I think that I think that one of the narratives a little bit
• 28:17
  that was spun was that, oh, like, you know, James didn't do
• 28:22
  shit. And it was like, well, first of
• 28:23
  all, I was already traveling a lot for BD at the time.
• 28:26
  I had just kind of started really taking it serious.
• 28:30
  So I was gone all the time. But when I was home, I would
• 28:32
  help. And number one in in the biggest
• 28:34
  factor is it's irrelevant even if I helped at all because I
• 28:39
  sold all the tickets. Yeah, all, almost all of them.
• 28:43
  So it doesn't really even matter.
• 28:45
  But I promise I'm not. I'm not avoiding.
• 28:48
  At the time did the tickets the tickets run through your
• 28:52
  Shopify? Wish through her Shopify.
• 28:56
  So unfortunately the all the numbers of course are fake.
• 28:59
  Shit, so you are Yeah, and that's a topic to discuss, but
• 29:03
  so you are marketing the event YouTube video, shorts, Instagram
• 29:08
  and I all of. Them and I had by far the
• 29:10
  biggest platform of the three and this was when I I shit you
• 29:14
  not I probably had 1000 on Instagram less than 1000 on
• 29:19
  TikTok, no Facebook and like 4K on YouTube yeah and I still had
• 29:25
  miles away the biggest only. Three years ago it's.
• 29:28
  Crazy. Oh, I can't wait to save the
• 29:29
  members a little bit. But so the event takes place,
• 29:36
  yeah. Anything you'd like to touch on
• 29:38
  during the event itself? I know there's some drugs.
• 29:41
  I. Got a couple.
• 29:43
  I got a couple. So the event went pretty well.
• 29:46
  I was actually really proud of it.
• 29:48
  I thought the venue sucked. It was way too small.
• 29:51
  But as far as like how? Proud that you brought in.
• 29:55
  Yeah, that I brought in, but I was very proud of it.
• 29:58
  I thought it went pretty well. Lots of people came, people had
• 30:02
  a lot of fun. Yeah.
• 30:04
  One thing I do want to touch on is the the main individual,
• 30:07
  really the one dude. This.
• 30:09
  So there's a lady and a dude in the story.
• 30:11
  It's mostly the lady that's like the main perpetrator.
• 30:16
  We do a booth, right? A Co booth of Bo Disciples and
• 30:22
  Bow and Arrow shop booth right next to their company's booth.
• 30:28
  My mother, who's like, at this time, probably 68 years old,
• 30:34
  yeah, sits there all day in the sun to help sell not only my
• 30:43
  stuff, but other people's stuff as well.
• 30:45
  Help. But check in.
• 30:48
  This woman didn't talk to her one time.
• 30:52
  Really. I don't think I knew that not
• 30:54
  one time just to avoid because she doesn't care about people
• 31:03
  unless she thinks she can get something from them.
• 31:06
  So the reason she loved me so much of pretended to be my best
• 31:09
  friend until she thought we'll get to that later.
• 31:14
  There became a turning point where she she chose not to be my
• 31:17
  friend. But the reason she was my friend
• 31:20
  in the begin to begin with was because she thought that she
• 31:23
  could Leech off me, essentially. And she did.
• 31:26
  It worked. Oh, it worked.
• 31:28
  For a little while. For a little while.
• 31:29
  We'll get there. Yeah.
• 31:30
  OK, so Connie gets ignored the entire event.
• 31:34
  Facts. And I and by the way, by the
• 31:36
  way, that's not me saying that I can get my sweet mother on here
• 31:40
  to say that. Yeah, I'm telling the I'm
• 31:43
  telling truth. Yeah, we're just, I'm not trying
• 31:45
  to. I'm not trying to go to the bow
• 31:47
  and arrow shop and spread gossip about someone.
• 31:50
  New and we're going to get to all of little seed goat because
• 31:53
  this could be like 3 hours long if we and I hopefully if we
• 31:57
  don't stay on track so. Yeah, if I need to stop talking,
• 32:00
  you just cut it. And go to the next house so the
• 32:03
  event ends. Oh yeah, how?
• 32:07
  Another banger. Yeah, I know exactly the part
• 32:10
  you're getting too. How quickly do?
• 32:13
  You. Yeah.
• 32:13
  So. Yeah.
• 32:15
  So the so so. OK, so the event finishes and I
• 32:22
  had a conversation, just me and this lady.
• 32:25
  It was in a corral. I remember exactly where it took
• 32:28
  place. Like I could go plant our feet
• 32:30
  in the same place that happened. I have a memory like that when
• 32:34
  it comes to conversation. And I said, wow, you know what,
• 32:39
  what a cool event. It's going to be really hard for
• 32:42
  us to top this. And she go, Oh yeah, I can top
• 32:48
  it easy. I've done it many times.
• 32:52
  Just shit on me out immediately when I said us, she didn't want
• 32:56
  it to be us, She wanted to be her.
• 32:58
  And I go, OK, yeah, OK. So then I just kind of left.
• 33:03
  Was that a clue? At any point then, did it start
• 33:07
  to register? You.
• 33:09
  Oh, yeah, no, that one felt like I got hit by a bus.
• 33:12
  I was like, oh, I see, you know, so my guard automatically was up
• 33:17
  then. Yeah, so, but yeah, that that
• 33:22
  was my so that was my first like red.
• 33:25
  Flat. Very, very for you.
• 33:27
  Well, I had had a few, but that was the first one that was like,
• 33:30
  you can't even ignore it. It's so clear.
• 33:33
  We could jump back to the giveaway thing that happened.
• 33:36
  Oh, the giveaway is great. I'll touch on it real quick and
• 33:38
  we'll move on. So basically I I bagged a
• 33:41
  giveaway for a bow from shout out to Bow and Arrow shop and
• 33:46
  actually another ironic 1. That was a viewpoint they had
• 33:49
  that, that, that that was wrong of you.
• 33:52
  Oh, they but that that was, that's the side piece.
• 33:56
  That's the man saying this stuff, gossiping.
• 33:58
  The other lady used like one more than but.
• 34:01
  Oh, for sure. But we don't even need to get
• 34:02
  into that sound part of the T But so you're hearing this from
• 34:06
  your friend who works with a bow company.
• 34:08
  That was day after. Yeah, the day after the shoot
• 34:13
  you find out that she is bashing you for multiple reasons, saying
• 34:18
  like this whole company. Literally telling the company
• 34:21
  like you should not entertain or mess with this guy at all
• 34:25
  because of these reasons. Like literally tarnishing my
• 34:28
  character. Thankfully I had a real one
• 34:31
  there who told me this right fresh off the press.
• 34:35
  But what's ironic as time goes by is I get kind of emotional
• 34:41
  sometimes thinking about like the how how all this stuff's
• 34:44
  played out. But ironically, that same brand,
• 34:48
  I'm not going to say who, they offer me a bunch of money years
• 34:53
  later, a bunch and I had. Years so it's like 2 years later
• 34:57
  years they. Offer me a bunch of money.
• 34:59
  Yeah, yeah. And we'll do get into how, you
• 35:04
  know, the lessons were learned, that you know, it is good to not
• 35:09
  clap back sometimes We'll get. A right move.
• 35:12
  You did. I'm not even clapping now if I
• 35:14
  wanted. To no.
• 35:15
  You're telling your factual understanding and the sequence
• 35:19
  of events. I'm telling the truth.
• 35:21
  We how the T began. So when we have really just this
• 35:24
  could be the halfway point, but we have just hit where the T
• 35:28
  explodes. OK, this is where things go go
• 35:33
  nuts. So you have come to the
• 35:36
  realization that you're X out, you're cut out, you're not a
• 35:42
  part of any future events. So you go on to go.
• 35:46
  You go back to Bear State to pick up what did not happen back
• 35:52
  in 2020. Yeah, and I told both of those
• 35:56
  people I was going to do 1 as well.
• 35:58
  Yeah, which is kind of wild, but yeah, I told them.
• 36:01
  So I told them both. I said, hey, I'm going to go
• 36:03
  talk to them, see if they want to re up and go from there.
• 36:08
  In the span of me having that conversation and then getting
• 36:11
  cut out, I had a had the conversation that I was like,
• 36:16
  well, obviously I've been cut out.
• 36:18
  So I'm like, I'm not going to like rope them back in.
• 36:21
  There's some shit. They just cut me out.
• 36:23
  So you're, well, you're, you're like in a professional business
• 36:27
  standpoint, like your business ties together are complete.
• 36:32
  They were never, they were no, they are still, they weren't
• 36:34
  ongoing to begin with. They went complete after the
• 36:37
  first event. There's no contract to do more
• 36:39
  than that. There's no contract to do the
• 36:41
  first one like. I thought we, I thought we had
• 36:43
  loyalty. I thought we had loyalty as
• 36:45
  friends, but that obviously wasn't true.
• 36:47
  So anyway, I, yeah, I sign we, we do the deal with Bear State.
• 36:52
  Make it happen. Here's what happened.
• 36:56
  So we had planned to. I don't like long roll outs on
• 37:00
  promotion. I'm big on like, rap albums,
• 37:04
  yeah. So I love when stuff's like a
• 37:05
  surprise release, basically. A midnight drop.
• 37:08
  I love a midnight drop. So basically I had it planned
• 37:12
  that like, OK, we're going to drop the tickets.
• 37:14
  I think it was March 1st it. Was February not yet, Sorry, it
• 37:17
  was March 1st. Yes, it was.
• 37:18
  And well, basically they had like a little insurance issue or
• 37:24
  something like the night before. So like, oh, we can't do it yet,
• 37:29
  it's going to take another week. So I was like, OK, we'll wait to
• 37:32
  pop the tickets up for a week. Ends up that the other party
• 37:37
  ended up putting their tickets up like March 5th.
• 37:40
  And remember mine were planning to come out March 1st.
• 37:43
  But the most important key to the Kong is that our shoot
• 37:53
  replaced the Oak Valley Challenge just as it was
• 37:57
  supposed to in 2020. This shoot was already on the
• 38:01
  local 3D calendar and every other 3D calendar for a decade.
• 38:07
  Yeah. So then my shoot bonus I was
• 38:10
  challenged launches, I believe it was March 7th, a few days
• 38:14
  after their tickets came out, and our shoot was two weeks
• 38:19
  before theirs. January event took place, you
• 38:23
  were exiled, you moved on, talked to Bear State went back
• 38:26
  to your original plans of the 2020 taking over the Oak Valley
• 38:30
  Challenge and replacing it with Beau Disciples Challenge and you
• 38:36
  wait to put your tickets out until they resolve their
• 38:38
  insurance issues. Their tickets come out.
• 38:41
  I want to say theirs came out on March 1st, but that's here nor
• 38:46
  there. Your yeah there.
• 38:48
  Yours don't come out until a few.
• 38:49
  Days later, well, I actually ended up this is another key
• 38:53
  point, but I actually ended up getting clearance to post the
• 38:56
  tickets like the day of for the day after I wanted, but then
• 39:00
  they had already. Of course I didn't know because
• 39:02
  I was not in the loop, but their tickets came out for sale and I,
• 39:06
  I shit you not, this God lost truth.
• 39:08
  I go well I don't want to like smash their.
• 39:11
  So I said I'll push it off a week and give them a week just
• 39:15
  just for themselves, just because I want to be a nice good
• 39:18
  guy and hang out like a happy fun bunch.
• 39:21
  So I gave them a week and then my tickets dropped.
• 39:25
  And then the TBS. Oh yeah.
• 39:29
  So what happened? Well, I can't even honest to God
• 39:34
  remember half the conversations that have now taken place since
• 39:37
  there and there are text messages, there are phone calls.
• 39:42
  The text messages guy. If you could blur out the name
• 39:45
  and put them on the screen it'd be insane.
• 39:46
  Oh, if it ever came to the point where it was like, oh, she
• 39:50
  really want to go there. Oh, I can, I can go.
• 39:53
  They were brute. I can go.
• 39:56
  I mean, it was like you were talking to a crazy.
• 39:59
  Well, everyone's seen them too. That's the thing.
• 40:01
  I got so many people that have more they can say.
• 40:03
  I mean I got loads. In the clip, but so you know,
• 40:06
  your event launches, yeah, March 7th or whatever it was.
• 40:10
  So the event launches well, first of all, we're still too
• 40:15
  small at the time really. BD one went really well.
• 40:18
  I'm very proud of it, but our event was two weeks before hers.
• 40:23
  But as I said before, the same date was a shoot anyways at the
• 40:30
  same place. Yeah, regardless, a shoot was
• 40:33
  going to happen now. At the same place, Yeah.
• 40:37
  But when it launches, it's like, Oh my God, he's trying to kill
• 40:43
  us. He's doing a shoot on a on a
• 40:45
  date too close to ours. And I go.
• 40:49
  What is what the initial blow? It was, I know it was.
• 40:53
  And I go, what do you mean there was already a shoot?
• 40:56
  Well, and then then the tech said the I shit you not, The
• 40:59
  tech said, well, that shoot had nothing to do with us.
• 41:06
  Yours does. And I go how?
• 41:09
  It's the same shit. Yeah.
• 41:11
  What? Because it's two days instead of
• 41:13
  one, which by the way was bare state idea.
• 41:16
  I don't see you having a beef with them.
• 41:18
  But guess what? You never showed up to their
• 41:19
  shit anyways because you never go to anything except your own.
• 41:22
  Stop. I've never seen this person at
• 41:24
  a. Lingual time bro.
• 41:27
  Balboa shoot an Alpine shoot No Or a Lake Henshaw What?
• 41:32
  Blow a smoke. It's fake.
• 41:34
  It's fake. Yeah.
• 41:35
  So they don't any anyway. So then I get this huge, huge
• 41:39
  blowback. I get a phone call.
• 41:42
  How dare you do this? Do what?
• 41:46
  You cut me out. You cut me out.
• 41:51
  You used me for my platform, then tried to cancel me.
• 41:57
  Now I'm just getting to do my own shit with someone who
• 41:59
  actually likes me. What do you mean?
• 42:02
  And then, oh, Oh my God. I mean, at that point, the
• 42:07
  drama, I couldn't walk in. Hold on, I couldn't.
• 42:11
  I couldn't walk into the bow shop without feeling like I was
• 42:13
  going to get shot. I'll just be realistic.
• 42:16
  Everyone took their side. But you know why?
• 42:19
  Because I didn't talk about it. I wasn't gossiping like a 12
• 42:23
  year old girl. I went.
• 42:25
  I'm not saying shit. Yeah.
• 42:27
  So one of the dramas that I heard, whether it was from the
• 42:31
  bow. Shop this was happened
• 42:33
  everywhere. Yep, Yep.
• 42:35
  And just local like people that you know and whatnot.
• 42:37
  Gossip. Yeah, Was that?
• 42:40
  Well, James, you should have just told them I did.
• 42:47
  But you should have when you decided you should have reached
• 42:51
  out to them. No, I shouldn't still.
• 42:53
  After permission, Brett, like what are we talking about?
• 42:56
  This is my point. So that was one of the biggest
• 42:59
  initially one of the biggest blow UPS was that you already
• 43:03
  showed up to talk like like a parent asking for permission.
• 43:08
  You should have called to let them know.
• 43:10
  I think it's even in the text messages, which is why I think
• 43:13
  you should pull them up and. Run.
• 43:14
  I'm not. I'm not.
• 43:15
  Doesn't say. Not.
• 43:18
  That's the best way to be factual.
• 43:20
  I mean they wrote it, not. All I'm telling facts I'm not
• 43:23
  going to do. That but so that like So what
• 43:25
  some of the texts say we're like, you should have called to
• 43:29
  at least let me know so we could work something about like to
• 43:35
  figure out like, you know, like scheduling when our tickets come
• 43:39
  out or things like that. Like please, if you can explain
• 43:44
  to me why you owe them that I don't or why that would be
• 43:52
  required at all. Is there any answer to it?
• 43:57
  Because I don't that to me there's not.
• 44:01
  Well, yeah, so any who any who BDBD one it, it happens, right?
• 44:08
  The event happens. And this this lady, I'm leaving
• 44:13
  out a few key components, but that's OK.
• 44:15
  Like I have been at the gym where she blew up on me and told
• 44:18
  me that I stole all their ideas, which is wildly inaccurate.
• 44:23
  I'm I'm the first one to say I use inspiration from others, but
• 44:28
  I was not inspired by you don't get your dope.
• 44:31
  And I was inspired by TAC. I was inspired by Yuma.
• 44:35
  And I said that in the text, But you go, oh, you're stealing all
• 44:38
  of our ideas. I have a stole one of your
• 44:41
  ideas. I'm a lot more creative than
• 44:43
  you. Let's just be realistic.
• 44:44
  I, if I'm going to steal ideas from anybody and not going to be
• 44:48
  you don't, don't, don't, don't die big yourself up too much.
• 44:53
  Anyway, the shoot goes on smashes, right?
• 44:57
  Which by the way, remember, this is like such another key part.
• 45:01
  The problem was that my event was too close to hers, right?
• 45:05
  That was the problem. Two weeks apart.
• 45:08
  She puts her SCI event the same the same night as mine.
• 45:14
  She schedules it the same night in the same county.
• 45:18
  You know what? I did nothing.
• 45:20
  I'm just going to do the best event I can.
• 45:22
  I didn't go. Call like there were.
• 45:23
  Weren't there even stories on Facebook saying like from this
• 45:27
  person that they're not associated to your shoe
• 45:30
  whatsoever? Absolutely not.
• 45:32
  Well, well, you didn't see him. I didn't see him.
• 45:34
  Matt didn't see him because everyone was blocked.
• 45:37
  But when I went to Morley and was just shooting with to her
• 45:40
  what she calls peasants, regular people that she doesn't care
• 45:43
  about, they were like yo what do you think about this place
• 45:47
  saying this? I didn't even know about it but
• 45:51
  doesn't mean shit to me. So you get and once you want
• 45:54
  your shoe, you become blocked on all social media.
• 45:57
  Well, let me tell my favorite, Let me tell my favorite, this
• 46:01
  person at the time and like a 7 year old get big, big, big in
• 46:06
  the archery, right? Fun likes fun.
• 46:08
  Kind of like same shit. I like dirt bikes, bikes, you
• 46:12
  know, stuff like that. Big fan of motorcycles at the
• 46:15
  time. Big big big fan.
• 46:21
  And he come up and give you big hugs.
• 46:24
  Yeah give me big hugs. Love the videos.
• 46:32
  It's disgusting to even say but she actually made him block me
• 46:36
  on Instagram and stuff. The seven-year old child.
• 46:40
  But so you I think where you saw it physically.
• 46:43
  Oh, I saw the. Turkey Tune.
• 46:45
  Up I sit next to him and I go like 10 feet apart and I go to
• 46:48
  like, you know, like wave as we I've chatted with this kid
• 46:52
  before goes like this and I'm like, dude, that's disgusting as
• 46:59
  a full grown. You've paid all your
• 47:03
  insecurities and your petty prop a child with a child with your
• 47:08
  own child. And a problem that you made-up
• 47:10
  and started. Yeah, and what regardless of
• 47:13
  that doesn't even. Matter would.
• 47:14
  You involve your business dilemmas or personal dilemmas in
• 47:20
  your family and children's lives.
• 47:22
  Yeah, yeah. But you did so anyway.
• 47:24
  So the another key cog I think is that the BD one goes down,
• 47:30
  goes really well. I'm super proud of BD1BD2 was a
• 47:34
  lot better but BDBD 1 was great and it accomplished what the
• 47:39
  goal was. But I hadn't talked to her in
• 47:47
  the last time I talked to her was I was at the jam and she
• 47:49
  blew up, bought me in text messages, just absolutely blew
• 47:52
  up. I remember that being.
• 47:54
  Firedo, I still have all the messages so there's a receipts
• 47:57
  if I need them but she blows up on me.
• 48:01
  I haven't talked to her since or since then.
• 48:03
  BDBD one goes off without a hit. People are loving it.
• 48:07
  Her SCI event was that night right that remember again, the
• 48:12
  whole problem is that my event is too close to her date.
• 48:15
  So then she puts an event on my same date.
• 48:18
  Yeah, not petty at all. Do we think about that?
• 48:21
  Yeah. Then it fires half the people at
• 48:27
  her event came from BD1 to the event.
• 48:31
  Who do I get a phone call from the next day?
• 48:35
  I remember that she got it from her.
• 48:36
  You were with me in the living room.
• 48:39
  Hey James, I'm so happy to hear your event went really well.
• 48:43
  I'm so proud of you. I just want to squash this beef
• 48:46
  and you know I want to promote each other stuff.
• 48:49
  I said I will never promote your shed again.
• 48:52
  Yeah, you said, I think you said something along the lines like
• 48:55
  I'll be amicable and professional, but I will never
• 48:59
  work with you again. Of course, why would I?
• 49:02
  You proven me, you are. Very.
• 49:05
  Yeah, yeah. So then I said, no, I'm not.
• 49:08
  I'm not doing that. But then maybe a couple weeks
• 49:13
  later I end up going to tack with a girl who I had never shot
• 49:18
  with before, Right. This. 1.
• 49:20
  I'm not, we don't have to say never shot with this lady in my
• 49:24
  life. Never even knew her.
• 49:27
  I knew her through one of my other friends.
• 49:30
  She goes, yo, when when we said that you were going to shoot
• 49:34
  here, I got these messages, like paragraphs from this person
• 49:41
  saying that, you know, you, your dad, Brianna and all your
• 49:47
  friends hurt her family reading me these messages.
• 49:53
  Yeah. So, and and I'll give a little
• 49:57
  bit more to that story from and this is not on the person I now
• 50:01
  I know who you're talking about. It's not on the person who you
• 50:04
  know, did this or what not. It's not on them.
• 50:06
  They were affected by the manipulation of this woman.
• 50:11
  So I remember when you asked if she wanted to cheat with you
• 50:17
  guys. I don't remember how you had
• 50:20
  heard about her whatnot. Through, through Whitney.
• 50:23
  I'll say Whitney because I'll say yeah, it's only fired yeah,
• 50:27
  with order. Whitney's.
• 50:28
  You you share a story tagging her in.
• 50:33
  It when we signed up. When we signed up, yeah.
• 50:36
  And she re shares it or posts or whatever and then all of a
• 50:41
  sudden that story is pulled down.
• 50:44
  Yeah. And we go looking.
• 50:47
  I mean, it's gone. She is, she manually went in and
• 50:51
  deleted her story that she was associating with you.
• 50:55
  And I said, hmm, that's really weird because the next thing
• 50:58
  that went up with something with her in association with this
• 51:02
  will be, I mean, I'm talking the same day, the same night.
• 51:06
  Like we're not talking about days later, your story comes
• 51:09
  down with her and a story with this woman goes up.
• 51:13
  And this is again, not on the person.
• 51:16
  You went and shuffle it. They were manipulated by this
• 51:19
  woman badly. And you get to tack and she has
• 51:26
  now realized that this lady's crazy and shows you all of these
• 51:31
  messages. This lady just sharing.
• 51:34
  You're a terrible human, but not just.
• 51:36
  You, not just to me. She read them to everyone in our
• 51:39
  group and showed us the messages.
• 51:41
  So when I say I got receipts, like, I really mean that.
• 51:45
  Like I, I, I had. A terrible person and Ted is a
• 51:49
  terrible person. Ted.
• 51:50
  My dad. Ted the Man.
• 51:52
  Who just. You know will just do anything
• 51:55
  that you need or want you ask him to do, he will figure out a
• 51:59
  way to do it. He might do it.
• 52:01
  So he he told you he did it, but he's going to do it, you know,
• 52:04
  and because. Yeah, yeah.
• 52:05
  So. But my point is like, yeah, just
• 52:08
  just total. So there's another event of
• 52:10
  where you have now learned that she is going and shit talking
• 52:15
  about you to other people to essentially what we have fairly
• 52:20
  confirmed in our own lines is to cancel you.
• 52:23
  And that started the after the first shoot you ever did with
• 52:28
  her took place. It was after one sentence that I
• 52:31
  said it was after saying this is going to be hard for us to top.
• 52:36
  That was it. After that it was like, Nah,
• 52:40
  because I'll tell you the honest truth.
• 52:42
  I think that I think she wanted to be the biggest influencer in
• 52:49
  our general area and she thought that was me and she thought that
• 52:54
  she couldn't accomplish it unless she took me down.
• 52:57
  And I thought, I think she thought it would work.
• 53:00
  And honestly, it almost did. I got to say so many people
• 53:04
  turned on me that it was like, but hold on.
• 53:08
  It was so disgusting. I'm actually very disgusted.
• 53:11
  And some people I knew have known a long time.
• 53:14
  And of course, now years, years after, people aren't like that.
• 53:22
  You know, they've reeled it back in and are cool, but that shit
• 53:25
  hurt really, really bad. They go, yo, you know me for
• 53:31
  this long and you know this person for two years, and
• 53:35
  they're choosing them. Like, what is this?
• 53:38
  Obviously, as time's gone on, it's worked out how it's
• 53:46
  supposed to. You know, I get a little
• 53:48
  emotional about it at times. Are you are?
• 53:50
  You I'm checking things off. I get a little emotional at
• 53:53
  times about it because, you know, I call myself Christian
• 54:02
  Light as a joke, right? Like, I don't claim to be the
• 54:05
  strongest Christian at this point in my life, but when I see
• 54:11
  how situations like this panned out, right?
• 54:15
  And how this woman and this dude who at the time were relatively
• 54:23
  the same size as me as far as influence went, they went on
• 54:30
  this mission together to tear me down and bring me down to
• 54:34
  nothing. Since then, I mean, I've
• 54:43
  literally gone mainstream. I'm like one of the biggest
• 54:48
  people in the space. 100K on YouTube, 75K on Instagram, 20 on
• 54:57
  TikTok, 30 on Facebook, 1000 They're both retired.
• 55:10
  Moving house too. That shit like it actually I'm,
• 55:15
  I'm like choked up about it because I always say you can't
• 55:20
  fake authenticity. And the one who was there's a
• 55:29
  reason I'm where I'm at and they're where they're at.
• 55:33
  Like I said, crab in the bucket. I always say there's two types
• 55:36
  of mentalities. There's people that they think
• 55:41
  their route to the top is by pulling people down from the
• 55:45
  top, crab in a bucket. And there's people that just
• 55:48
  like think that there's plenty of pie for everybody and want to
• 55:52
  raise all ships. And that's personally always
• 55:54
  been my approach, but very obviously it was not this other
• 55:59
  individuals. So I'm going to move you along
• 56:02
  here to you kept quiet. For two years.
• 56:10
  Two years even for the first sight full entire year, I mean,
• 56:15
  to your quote UN quote friends and locals here you would not
• 56:22
  speak things to. So you were getting phone calls
• 56:25
  from locals. You are getting texts.
• 56:30
  People who had either were saying they were quote UN quote
• 56:35
  waving the white flag or or had clearly chosen a side and
• 56:39
  weren't really speaking to you that you have known for 15 plus
• 56:47
  years at. Least in decade.
• 56:50
  The biggest dawn that I'm in? A lady.
• 56:52
  Had known them for. Yeah.
• 56:54
  So I'm going to throw this out there because this is again a
• 56:57
  part of the T and just tells you kind of what type of person this
• 57:01
  is. So you're keeping quiet and
• 57:03
  these peaceful basically either kind of stop speaking to you or.
• 57:08
  Not kind of. Yeah, and that is hurtful to
• 57:13
  you. So one day you get an apology.
• 57:25
  Do you know who I'm talking about?
• 57:27
  Yeah, Jonah Insight as to why they finally, after a year,
• 57:32
  decided to give you an apology. Yeah, so basically, like I said,
• 57:42
  I have been cold shouldered, basically exiled, still
• 57:45
  accepted. Don't get me wrong, people are
• 57:47
  still letting me film videos with them or whatever because
• 57:50
  they want the benefits of it, but there was no friendship.
• 57:54
  People had exiled me as a friend and I I knew that, you know, if
• 57:59
  I just stay pure and and don't dive in the mud with the kids,
• 58:05
  it'll work out overtime. And it did, thankfully.
• 58:08
  But but yeah, this. Person and I think This is why
• 58:12
  like the reason they gave you behind their apology is part of
• 58:15
  the reason why like you keeping quiet and them seeing these this
• 58:19
  person at least of the two. Brute colors is.
• 58:22
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 58:23
  So anyway, yeah, basically to answer your question though,
• 58:29
  this, this lady like also did the same thing with this
• 58:38
  person's partner. Oh, now I'm thinking of a
• 58:42
  different story. Hold on, let's back.
• 58:43
  And there's more people that say, yeah.
• 58:45
  So you're at the shop one day and this person comes and
• 58:52
  apologizes to you and says, hey, look, I don't, I don't fuck with
• 58:58
  a person like this. Like, I'm sorry for the way
• 59:00
  things have been. The reality is I'm, although I
• 59:07
  do consider myself a, a moral, a, a very moral person,
• 59:11
  actually, I think I, I really do believe that.
• 59:13
  I, I don't believe, I know that like I really want people to win
• 59:19
  and be their best self and, and get shit done.
• 59:22
  I, I really believe that. But there are some people that
• 59:29
  just aren't like that and not many.
• 59:34
  I truly believe more people are good than are not.
• 59:39
  But sometimes there is just snakes, you know?
• 59:43
  And from a business sense, I can be, I can look at stuff enough
• 59:53
  from the outsiders perspective to go, OK, her plan of trying to
• 59:59
  cancel James, the biggest guy. Is it wasn't bad like really
• 1:00:05
  strategically it wasn't bad the plan, but her execution was
• 1:00:09
  awful and it didn't work well. I thought my point is like I I
• 1:00:15
  don't even disrespect the effort.
• 1:00:17
  I really don't because if your main goal in life is to be the
• 1:00:23
  biggest badass, best star like all this, go for it.
• 1:00:28
  Try it. You know, like, I don't think
• 1:00:31
  it's right. That's not how I'm going to try
• 1:00:33
  to get to the top, you know, But I didn't even, I didn't even
• 1:00:40
  look at it as like, I, I, I look at it strategically and I
• 1:00:47
  thought, like, in some ways her method wasn't bad.
• 1:00:51
  She just didn't have the talent to carry it out.
• 1:00:54
  Not from hunting, not from shooting, not from business.
• 1:00:57
  Argument. This woman told me.
• 1:00:59
  She told me one time. She goes.
• 1:01:03
  James, I think you just have a lot to learn.
• 1:01:06
  I've been doing this way longer than you.
• 1:01:09
  And I go doing what? Way longer than me?
• 1:01:12
  Have you been shooting longer than me?
• 1:01:13
  No. Have you been hunting longer
• 1:01:15
  than me? No.
• 1:01:16
  Have you been doing business longer than me?
• 1:01:18
  No. I've been doing this shit since
• 1:01:21
  2010. Yeah.
• 1:01:23
  Business. Where are you trying to big Dick
• 1:01:27
  me? What are you doing?
• 1:01:29
  Are you kidding me? And then my buddy Chuck knows
• 1:01:32
  when when the whole beef played out years later, he goes.
• 1:01:35
  I just don't think she knew, bro.
• 1:01:37
  Well, I don't think she knew how much like how much you had done.
• 1:01:43
  And I'm like it doesn't even matter back.
• 1:01:45
  Well, and I think to me in my personal opinion, I don't think
• 1:01:48
  Chuck's wrong at all. I think that plays a large part
• 1:01:50
  in it, but it's also, I don't think she understands it, nor do
• 1:01:55
  some other people in the world like who take the same method
• 1:01:58
  she does that. Some people are stupid of a
• 1:02:00
  cruiser side after this. Yeah, which is our Charlie.
• 1:02:02
  That's fine, You know, Yeah, put on that, whatever.
• 1:02:06
  You're a loyal bastard, like losses say you are a loyal body.
• 1:02:10
  I don't think it's loyalty, I think it comes down to this
• 1:02:12
  brainwash. A little bit almost.
• 1:02:14
  Not even. They just share the same
• 1:02:17
  characteristics. Like Megan narcissism.
• 1:02:20
  Narcissism, jealousy, insecurity why do you and because of those
• 1:02:26
  things, they choose what they think is a route to.
• 1:02:31
  Kind of feels like safety almost.
• 1:02:35
  I guess. So naive.
• 1:02:37
  Yeah, it's just I don't think she or people like this
• 1:02:43
  understand and they can't because they're narcissist.
• 1:02:46
  That's right. Can.
• 1:02:48
  I finish, I got, I got so many bars right now.
• 1:02:51
  Is that authenticity will always win.
• 1:02:58
  So you can think the crab in the bucket method will work, but
• 1:03:03
  eventually your insecurities, your narcissism catches up.
• 1:03:09
  We'll catch up and it will show. And it did.
• 1:03:11
  It did for the bow shop. It did for others.
• 1:03:14
  When I when this situation happened and I to what in my
• 1:03:19
  head I perceived as I got royally fought by two people and
• 1:03:27
  they tried to destroy my career. I don't want that twisted.
• 1:03:32
  They tried to cancel me. I just want that clear.
• 1:03:35
  Yeah, since that happened, actually as soon as it happened
• 1:03:42
  in my head, I go, oh, you guys are you're going to regret that?
• 1:03:48
  I I knew they were hosed. Like I knew I was going to the
• 1:03:52
  moon because I knew I was real and they weren't.
• 1:03:57
  I was leading. Now you did I You did, yeah.
• 1:04:00
  I knew I was leading out of love, not hate.
• 1:04:04
  I knew it was to the more. Disingenuous.
• 1:04:07
  I just knew, like, I knew it, I said, oh, you're in trouble now.
• 1:04:12
  Like you're really in trouble. If you wanted to beat me, Like,
• 1:04:15
  no way. So what's your question?
• 1:04:16
  My question is why do you think? Like do you think it's a God
• 1:04:22
  thing? Do you think it's a person
• 1:04:23
  thing? Why do you think our career
• 1:04:27
  trajectories have gone such separate ways?
• 1:04:29
  Because I mean, you almost can't make it more different.
• 1:04:32
  Two of them are retired, done, finished.
• 1:04:37
  One is gone from underground to mainstream in the space.
• 1:04:45
  Why? Why?
• 1:04:46
  Why is that? I think it's it's authenticity
• 1:04:50
  and true core values of why, why are you doing what you're doing?
• 1:04:55
  And that plays into authenticity.
• 1:04:57
  But I think you're doing it like you.
• 1:05:01
  You started this whole podcast with is you don't look at this
• 1:05:06
  as a job, you look at it as fun. It's your passion.
• 1:05:10
  It's what you love to do. That's why I do anyways.
• 1:05:12
  Yeah, I don't think that was their true.
• 1:05:20
  I don't think that's their true reason behind why they do what
• 1:05:23
  they do. And that's not their why.
• 1:05:26
  I think the why it is fake. It it in my personal opinion,
• 1:05:29
  you could anybody out there could argue differently and
• 1:05:32
  that's OK. You argue differently.
• 1:05:34
  You are allowed your opinions. I do allow people to have
• 1:05:37
  opinions, but in my personal opinion, it's fake.
• 1:05:43
  They wanted clout, they wanted to be bigger than you.
• 1:05:47
  And and that goes back to clout. They it wasn't because they love
• 1:05:51
  to teach people a sport. It wasn't because they love to
• 1:05:55
  hunt. It wasn't because they love to
• 1:05:58
  get more people involved. It it's none of those reasons.
• 1:06:02
  It's because they wanted attention, They wanted clout,
• 1:06:06
  They wanted be viewed as the biggest.
• 1:06:08
  And that is never, in my personal opinion, going to get
• 1:06:12
  you anywhere or it's certainly not going to get you to where
• 1:06:16
  you want to be because there's always going to be someone
• 1:06:19
  bigger. You could be the freaking
• 1:06:21
  president of the United States and you could be like, I want
• 1:06:27
  who knows what. I don't know what you could want
• 1:06:29
  to be bigger than that, though. You know, you could be the
• 1:06:31
  president of Georgia. Be like, I want to be the
• 1:06:33
  president. He is bigger.
• 1:06:35
  There's always going to be someone bigger.
• 1:06:37
  So you're never going to get where you want to be.
• 1:06:40
  Yeah, I mean. You're, you're chasing an
• 1:06:42
  endless, you know, ball rolling down a hill and that's.
• 1:06:46
  So bad bands podcast, the same same exact thing we said on the
• 1:06:50
  Elk Shake podcast, which is also super ironic that we went on it.
• 1:06:53
  But like there's only three people that are like the biggest
• 1:07:02
  and other than that, everyone is always going to be fighting to
• 1:07:05
  be and you're never going to make it.
• 1:07:07
  The only ones that are there are Trump, Kim Kardashian and I
• 1:07:13
  can't remember. I said one more that's there's
• 1:07:15
  like, but those are the main 2. I mean, like for a female you
• 1:07:18
  got Kim K for males, you got Trump.
• 1:07:21
  It's like, other than that, everyone wants like wants to be
• 1:07:25
  Kim K and Trump, you know, and, and, and the reality is in the
• 1:07:29
  hunting space, the archery space, we're not going to get
• 1:07:31
  there. No, I'm never going to be Trump
• 1:07:34
  or it's or Kim K. It's just not happening.
• 1:07:37
  But what a biggest person in the outdoor, not just Archer alone.
• 1:07:41
  You can name the biggest person in the outdoor world and I ever.
• 1:07:43
  Can use that. Anthony Campaigns is the barest,
• 1:07:45
  yeah, nowhere near Kim K and he would say that.
• 1:07:47
  Whatever for whatever, but this just like to answer your
• 1:07:51
  question, that is my point. Like that's what they want to be
• 1:07:55
  and that's what drives them. There's no authentic reason and
• 1:08:01
  and that's not authentic to me like because you could do that
• 1:08:05
  and as we've seen them do, jump from 1 field to another to
• 1:08:09
  another to another one, ping pong well or racquetball.
• 1:08:13
  Not only fields, but friends too.
• 1:08:15
  You ever notice how many friends those people burn through?
• 1:08:18
  How many have I burnt through? None.
• 1:08:20
  Tell me. None is We still shoot.
• 1:08:23
  With everyone's from day one is still there yeah what what so
• 1:08:28
  this one I don't understand the local the few people that bought
• 1:08:31
  into this narrative yeah how how just look at just look at the
• 1:08:37
  resume look at the friends around look at everything how.
• 1:08:44
  Well, that's what I'm just interested.
• 1:08:46
  It doesn't make sense. It's almost offensive.
• 1:08:48
  Like I'm like how did you buy this and are you still there's a
• 1:08:53
  couple locals that still won't come to BD free because of this?
• 1:08:58
  Yeah, well, I'm, I'm interested to see after this pod comes out
• 1:09:02
  if they listen to it or not. Who?
• 1:09:03
  Knows OK, we're going to. Listen.
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  And I've yeah, yeah, for sure. But I have some names in mind,
• 1:09:08
  in my head. But my thought is when you hear
• 1:09:13
  the whole store, we have not told in chronological
• 1:09:16
  chronological order from beginning to end.
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  I can't answer your question because I'm right there with you
• 1:09:24
  like I can't. The only thing I I not that I
• 1:09:27
  can understand it because that's why I asked you the question was
• 1:09:31
  back when I said, why do you owe them the phone call to
• 1:09:36
  collaborate on when tickets come out and what not?
• 1:09:38
  Because that was a big beef in the argument.
• 1:09:42
  And that was that was a part of their.
• 1:09:45
  Yeah, yeah, for sure. And then that went on to like,
• 1:09:48
  well, you could have done this. You could have called and told
• 1:09:50
  us. We could have tried to work it
• 1:09:51
  out. Well, I mean like that changing
• 1:09:53
  this it didn't work. Well, but so it also changed
• 1:09:55
  because they're hearing it from the same person to the people
• 1:09:59
  who are then calling and talking to you.
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  And I would love to know what their opinion is after they've
• 1:10:05
  heard this in chronological order, things that maybe they
• 1:10:07
  hadn't been told or maybe hadn't heard it in order or whatever.
• 1:10:10
  Because I still can't, same as you, wrap my brain.
• 1:10:15
  But I shouldn't how? Because I can't even.
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  Like the biggest thing to me they always kept bringing back
• 1:10:21
  was that, well, why didn't you just pick up the phone and call
• 1:10:24
  them? I did.
• 1:10:24
  Well, after you hear how it all took place in the beginning,
• 1:10:29
  prior to the initiation of the beef, of the events being
• 1:10:33
  launched, when you hear all the stuff before, how can you even
• 1:10:37
  argue the why didn't you call them part?
• 1:10:40
  Yeah, even if you did, how can you even argue that portion?
• 1:10:44
  Because you weren't the one who did the wronging in the 1st
• 1:10:49
  place. You put on an event with them.
• 1:10:52
  At the end of the day, no ifs, ands or buts, you put on an
• 1:10:56
  event with them, you help them grow.
• 1:10:59
  And then it was radio silence. And if you are cut?
• 1:11:02
  Out. Hold on.
• 1:11:03
  You were cut out. You were ignored.
• 1:11:06
  You were not told about. And shit.
• 1:11:09
  And and shit on as you've now told the world.
• 1:11:12
  Well, and I knew was happening. Yeah.
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  And you sat quiet. Yeah.
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  And and and by the way, I'm half their age, yes, and I'm still
• 1:11:22
  responding miles more mature. Yeah, but I just, I have to
• 1:11:26
  finish it. Yeah, go ahead.
• 1:11:28
  How can you, after hearing the first half of and that's why I
• 1:11:33
  really wanted to take my time with that half of the story
• 1:11:36
  because that's the part that I think always gets left out when
• 1:11:40
  locals ask questions and whatnot.
• 1:11:43
  How can you still go back to, well, you could have just done
• 1:11:46
  this to me. Why do you have to?
• 1:11:49
  You're running a business, they're running a business.
• 1:11:51
  You did what you were supposed to.
• 1:11:53
  Your business aren't associated to each other.
• 1:11:57
  You know your events were as so as they went on social media and
• 1:12:00
  said your events were associated to one another.
• 1:12:04
  Your events weren't on the same dates as one another.
• 1:12:06
  Your your launch dates were not on the same dates as one
• 1:12:10
  another. And besides your event, the
• 1:12:14
  event that your event replaced was still on that same weekend
• 1:12:19
  for decades. So why does it matter?
• 1:12:25
  Why did you still owe it to the? That was the argument that
• 1:12:28
  stopped for so long. It was a low it.
• 1:12:31
  Was a personal problem. Yeah.
• 1:12:33
  And then that's why it's not just her.
• 1:12:35
  That's what I'm saying. So I'm interested to see when I
• 1:12:36
  come. Out you know I mean I think that
• 1:12:39
  here's the deal right and I think Josh Jones puts this
• 1:12:41
  really well, you know and I'm sure like I haven't talked to
• 1:12:48
  Cam about it or or Paige about it, but I'm sure it exists for
• 1:12:53
  them too but I have talked to Josh about it and I think that
• 1:12:57
  when you're a local and you kind of like make it beyond the.
• 1:13:03
  Yeah, you talk about this? Yeah, you make it beyond the.
• 1:13:07
  The local sphere. The local sphere people just
• 1:13:09
  automatically sometimes just like their reactions negative,
• 1:13:14
  yeah. There's a point of there's a
• 1:13:16
  sphere of negativity until you then hit the next stage of your
• 1:13:21
  career, whether you held that national or mainstream or
• 1:13:23
  whatever word you want to put on it.
• 1:13:26
  And then there's a spear of then acceptance and almost that
• 1:13:30
  reignition of excitement. Where what do you like first?
• 1:13:33
  Yeah. I almost feel like I've seen
• 1:13:35
  like 3 phases of that in this beef.
• 1:13:38
  I think at first it was like bunch of people with no clout
• 1:13:42
  trying to like, I don't know, like clamoring and maybe there
• 1:13:45
  was like intensity there. And then even though I, I was
• 1:13:49
  the biggest in the beginning too, but then I became like a
• 1:13:53
  little bit even bigger. And then it was like, OK, then
• 1:13:57
  it was like this major torpedoes and missiles coming to like take
• 1:14:01
  down the guy with 10,000 Subs. And then when it gets to like
• 1:14:06
  6050 sixty 70,000 Subs, it's almost like it's it's sort of
• 1:14:14
  stops a little bit. What are you going to do now?
• 1:14:17
  We also talked about this that I think it is difficult for like I
• 1:14:25
  think we heard a pot or some Oh no, we're in Indiana.
• 1:14:28
  The guy was talking about the NBA player who comes back home.
• 1:14:32
  Sometimes it's hard to recognize until you reach a certain it's
• 1:14:37
  hard to recognize you as someone other than the local guy and who
• 1:14:42
  you know has been come in the shower with his dad Ted, since
• 1:14:45
  he was five years old. You know, before was even owned
• 1:14:48
  by the people it's owned by now. And I say people like they don't
• 1:14:51
  mean to. I'm not trying to be rude.
• 1:14:52
  We're just trying to leave names.
• 1:14:54
  So I still wanted to be taken that way.
• 1:14:57
  No some. Ballots, what you're saying is
• 1:14:58
  about? But I think that is a portion of
• 1:15:01
  it too. It does make it hard to for
• 1:15:04
  anybody here to see you as anything other than the goofy
• 1:15:08
  guy James. And here's the deal, like in it,
• 1:15:11
  like I've gotten so comfortable in my shoes that the stuff that
• 1:15:16
  I'll say now I wouldn't have said two years ago, right?
• 1:15:20
  Like I'm, I'm just like people. I don't know, I'm just going to
• 1:15:25
  keep it real. And if people like think some
• 1:15:27
  shit I say is goofy or whatever, then it is what it is.
• 1:15:30
  But the truth of the matter is that, you know, like early on
• 1:15:37
  doing Bo disciples videos at 3D shoots in twenty 18/19/2021 all
• 1:15:44
  the way till now, really, people would always kind of go like,
• 1:15:48
  wow, what is the what are you doing with the camera at these
• 1:15:51
  shoots? Like they're almost got to make
• 1:15:52
  fun of me, you know, like a little bit to be honest.
• 1:15:55
  And now I don't know, it's like the truth is the sounds so fuck,
• 1:16:02
  so cringe to say, but like I'm a famous Archer now.
• 1:16:06
  Like that's the truth. I'm like one of the top guys as
• 1:16:10
  far as maybe not top 10, but I'm definitely like 10 to 20.
• 1:16:15
  I would say for sure. And I think it's very hard for
• 1:16:20
  people to distinguish that. And then they see you pop up on
• 1:16:23
  like a big feature or something and they're like, oh, well,
• 1:16:27
  that's nice. He got lucky.
• 1:16:29
  It's like, no, I didn't get lucky.
• 1:16:31
  You, you work. I've been doing that.
• 1:16:33
  All your job in the backgrounds is saying it is a job that you
• 1:16:37
  have worked hard. At and I'm kind of like,
• 1:16:40
  honestly, I'm kind of tired of that.
• 1:16:41
  Like I'm kind of tired of people just like not just like given
• 1:16:48
  prompts, at least just saying like, yo, good work, keep going.
• 1:16:52
  That's all I want. I don't need, don't want to like
• 1:16:54
  pat me on the back, but I just want to feel as if what my work
• 1:17:00
  is respected. It's much like my brother,
• 1:17:02
  right, Who's a fireman. He feels right.
• 1:17:06
  Why? But assume he feels respected at
• 1:17:10
  his job, you know, like people think like, oh, look at him,
• 1:17:12
  he's out here doing blah, blah, blah.
• 1:17:14
  You know, like, you know, obviously I'm not claiming to
• 1:17:16
  save lives or some shit like that.
• 1:17:18
  So it's different. What?
• 1:17:19
  To each their. Own but I just yeah, all I would
• 1:17:22
  like is just people who are local to like rather than go
• 1:17:26
  like oh, what a clown out of here.
• 1:17:28
  Like, you know, I just, I, I don't know, I, I feel sometimes
• 1:17:33
  what I do is under appreciate it a little bit, to be honest.
• 1:17:37
  Appreciate. It's not I I would say valued,
• 1:17:42
  yeah, definitely. Or understood.
• 1:17:44
  Under, under, under understood because no one has to value or
• 1:17:49
  appreciate what you do. It'll go on, which is why I
• 1:17:51
  wouldn't use those terms. But under understood, sure is
• 1:17:57
  that because like sure, you might come off like what you
• 1:18:01
  are, you know, a clown, you're goofy, whatever and all your
• 1:18:03
  videos. Best in my brain.
• 1:18:04
  That's all. That's just who you are.
• 1:18:07
  If it were that easy to just get lucky and then why isn't
• 1:18:12
  everybody go to YouTube, Go to whatever guy starts on
• 1:18:16
  Instagram? Go do a guy and girl I had the
• 1:18:18
  beef with like, yeah. But this, that's what I'm saying
• 1:18:20
  is like it takes effort, hard effort and work to do it.
• 1:18:25
  There's coming back, there's editing, there's, do you think
• 1:18:28
  there's a ton that goes into it? Like if it were that easy to
• 1:18:32
  just get lucky and make these connections and, and get to this
• 1:18:36
  level of subscribers and make this amount of money and
• 1:18:39
  sponsorships and, and whatnot, then why can't every or why
• 1:18:44
  doesn't everybody who starts trying make it?
• 1:18:47
  Do you know how many people I know that want to want to do
• 1:18:50
  what I'm doing? Lots.
• 1:18:51
  I know a lot. You know how many have done it?
• 1:18:57
  Almost none. And you know why?
• 1:19:00
  Lack of effort and consistency. That's it.
• 1:19:04
  And everybody be happy. Or it's talent too.
• 1:19:08
  I don't want to neglect talent 'cause I do think I'm a good
• 1:19:10
  personality. I do think that.
• 1:19:12
  Yes, well, some people just don't.
• 1:19:14
  Like, that's not offensive to say.
• 1:19:15
  Some people just don't. Have this lady and this guy
• 1:19:18
  don't got that and I don't have the work ethic or honestly the
• 1:19:21
  brains to do it because neither of that they're like it'd be
• 1:19:25
  like, you know, me trying to. I love some time my brains.
• 1:19:30
  No, he's going to hit the bar. But yeah, I knew I had it, but I
• 1:19:36
  I held it. He held it, but that's a good
• 1:19:38
  idea. But.
• 1:19:40
  I love it. I I think it's really good.
• 1:19:42
  We talked about this and I it really, it really hits me deep.
• 1:19:47
  I almost, I don't know, I want to, I want to open the floor to
• 1:19:51
  you with questions and I just want you to hit everything.
• 1:19:54
  We'll do them kind of rapid fire.
• 1:19:56
  But before we say that, I really, I don't know, like I
• 1:20:02
  don't claim to be the most religious guy of all time, but I
• 1:20:05
  swear to you, to me, that's like a very, it's a very religious
• 1:20:10
  thing. This this whole scenario.
• 1:20:14
  To me, represents like good and good and evil.
• 1:20:17
  Is there ever a point where you thought I would lose?
• 1:20:21
  No, like there's just there's just not, you know, sometimes I
• 1:20:27
  think you I don't want to say dream big.
• 1:20:30
  I've or as I've said before, a little cocky, you know, like,
• 1:20:36
  but I think that is important to have because look at the growth
• 1:20:41
  that has happened from, you know, then to now.
• 1:20:47
  You know, if you have confidence that believe in yourself and
• 1:20:51
  what you're doing, you will make some sort of growth, whether
• 1:20:55
  it's small over time and becomes large or it's rapid and
• 1:20:59
  continues whatever. But you've made that growth
• 1:21:05
  because you believed in yourself, but you ultimately
• 1:21:09
  also believed in the reasons why you are doing it because they
• 1:21:17
  were the real reasons why you were doing it.
• 1:21:19
  And when you can actually, you can't develop it like a, a
• 1:21:23
  business strategy or a growth plan around a lie because then
• 1:21:29
  you're but what you can't because your plan is built
• 1:21:32
  around one thing that's written on paper, but it's not your real
• 1:21:35
  reason for doing it. Like if your reason is to or, or
• 1:21:39
  your, you know, where you want to get to and you say I want to
• 1:21:43
  get to China, but your real plan is to go to Australia.
• 1:21:49
  Well, if your whole plans written around getting to China,
• 1:21:52
  how am I going to get to Australia?
• 1:21:55
  Like that's the most layman's terms I can put it in, you know,
• 1:21:58
  but you built your plan around it, what you wanted to do and
• 1:22:02
  are going there. Well, when you have fake
• 1:22:07
  intentions, you can't get there because that's not what the plan
• 1:22:10
  says. So no, I don't think you would
• 1:22:14
  have ever lost. You were approached
• 1:22:17
  inauthentically to begin a friendship with somebody with
• 1:22:22
  their intentions to truly be, to use you.
• 1:22:26
  And. The the reach that you had in
• 1:22:29
  the moment and then knock you down because they were insecure
• 1:22:33
  in the fact that you are bigger than them in the area that we
• 1:22:37
  live in. Facts.
• 1:22:39
  And then they began that plan once they used you and their
• 1:22:43
  event grew in size and they thought, now I can do this
• 1:22:48
  without you because I'm on the platform.
• 1:22:51
  I'm out there, people know who I am.
• 1:22:54
  So I can knock him down in the in the behind the scenes.
• 1:22:59
  Yeah. While still looking like, you
• 1:23:02
  know, a perfect. And kill him.
• 1:23:06
  And and and rise above him. That is, you know, in the most
• 1:23:12
  summarized version what took place.
• 1:23:15
  Who were you hurt by more in this situation, the male or the
• 1:23:18
  female? The dude for sure.
• 1:23:21
  And why? And your briefest of
• 1:23:23
  explanation. Well, I thought we were friends.
• 1:23:26
  I, I, I had tried so hard to, you know, I've said it forever,
• 1:23:34
  Like I always felt like I wasn't cool enough in life always.
• 1:23:37
  And I felt like I had to sell myself to this person.
• 1:23:41
  But yo, I'm, I am cool enough. And I thought I had made it.
• 1:23:46
  And then obviously I didn't and that really hurt me a lot.
• 1:23:50
  So yeah, I would say the dude for sure.
• 1:23:52
  What were the biggest lies? I don't think we touched on it
• 1:23:55
  at all in the pod as far as numbers.
• 1:24:00
  Oh no, we did once. We did once.
• 1:24:02
  Oh, I'll touch on a real quick. So biggest numbers was so when
• 1:24:06
  we did the first event at this property that was less than I
• 1:24:09
  think it was 10 acres, we had what I was told again, I didn't
• 1:24:14
  have control of the numbers so they could be totally fake.
• 1:24:17
  I was told it was 177. This person had told me they had
• 1:24:22
  had 350. A gigantic lie, obviously.
• 1:24:27
  What didn't they tell you it was like over 400 or something at
• 1:24:30
  their their next event? Board Yeah, which it was.
• 1:24:32
  It was not yeah, yeah. So the numbers are always hugely
• 1:24:35
  inflated by probably 3X, whereas our numbers, if you want them,
• 1:24:40
  I'll release them. I don't give a shit.
• 1:24:41
  I'll I'll put out the Spotify actual analytic.
• 1:24:44
  I was very Shopify analytics. I don't even care because I'm
• 1:24:49
  not. Why have a spreadsheet of it?
• 1:24:50
  Yeah. I'm not going to lie to you.
• 1:24:51
  So I will put out the real numbers.
• 1:24:54
  Yeah, I can tell you right now I think we've sold 170 tickets for
• 1:24:58
  BDC 3. There you go.
• 1:25:03
  Yeah, wait a month and a half to go.
• 1:25:05
  Oh, it is going to be odd. Subscribe to the pod.
• 1:25:10
  I hope you enjoyed. Welcome back to the United
• 1:25:14
  States. Let's get ready for TAC next
• 1:25:18
  week. Perfect.