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Pink Flamingos · Cuff’s Basement

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Speaker 1: Before continuing to this next episode, We'd like to briefly
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Speaker 1: clarify that some of the terms and descriptors used in
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Speaker 1: the prior conversation. Specifically, what I'm referring to Israfall referred
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Speaker 1: to some of the prison inmates as quote young studs
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Speaker 1: end quote. It reflects refall and Mark's perspectives in the
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Speaker 1: tone of the show. But our guests are sorry. Our
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Speaker 1: co host Ryan identifies as heterosexual. It would not personally
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Speaker 1: characterize an individual using that terminology as he is not gay.
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Speaker 1: His participation remains focused on respectful dialogue an inclusion between
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Speaker 1: the heterosexual and homosexual community. Thank you very much for
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Speaker 1: listening and always through the lost culture, chaos and new sabling.
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Speaker 1: Guess what, Mark you when you opened Pindora's box. You
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Speaker 1: can't close it? Can you please explain to the audience
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Speaker 1: what you just referenced.
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Speaker 2: I said that disclaimer was a good segue into my
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Speaker 2: prison pen pal Facebook suggestions. Mys I don't know. I
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Speaker 2: think I think because I don't know why I originally
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Speaker 2: got it. I think it was very innocent why it
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Speaker 2: was suggested to me probably, but I think because since
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Speaker 2: I received it once exactly yes, thank you, Maybe I'm
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Speaker 2: interested in like the you know, like prison industrial complex.
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Speaker 2: I don't know something like this, but but yeah, I
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Speaker 2: think since I screenshot it and then we'll send uh
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Speaker 2: you know, then now it's just all the time I'm
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Speaker 2: getting these prison pen pell Yeah, but it's kind of funny,
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Speaker 2: like the comments are funny as well.
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Speaker 1: So basically too for me to describe this to normal people.
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Speaker 1: Mark is getting ads of like hot guys in prison.
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Speaker 1: I want to communicate with you, and Mark said, Mark
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Speaker 1: sent me a couple but one was he was like, oh,
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Speaker 1: and also I made an AI photo of me in
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Speaker 1: bed with one of them. But uh. One was like,
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Speaker 1: Mark's like, I assume these guys are AI, but do
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Speaker 1: you think this guy is real? And I said, this
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Speaker 1: is too smart for AI to do because the guy
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Speaker 1: had a tattoo of an Oklahoma area code and I
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Speaker 1: was like, AI is not. That's so believable to have
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Speaker 1: on a prisoner an area code from Oklahoma. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: this is like when I was because it's based on
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Speaker 1: your algorithms, right, the ads you get. I was constantly
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Speaker 1: getting ads for Big TARV, which is an HIV medication.
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Speaker 1: It's like if you're HIV, if you're living with HIV
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Speaker 1: then you should ask your doctor about big TARV And
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Speaker 1: Shannon's like, why are we getting these? What are you
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Speaker 1: doing that we're getting these on the television. So anyways,
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Speaker 1: welcome back to Cuff Space Man. We are continuing to
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Speaker 1: discuss the John Waters podcast series and we are moving
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Speaker 1: into what is known as the Trash Trilogy. Now, Ryan,
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Speaker 1: could you describe to the listeners what is the Trash Trilogy?
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Speaker 3: It is I think not his earliest movies, but three
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Speaker 3: of like his very like impactful early movies that are
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Speaker 3: very extreme became very big cult hits and kind of
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Speaker 3: what he cut his teeth with in terms of stuff,
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Speaker 3: and of course with actually I should say only two
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Speaker 3: of them with Divine, but yeah, that's a big partnership too.
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Speaker 4: It's his Robert de Niro, if he was Martin Scorsese
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Speaker 4: is Divine?
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Speaker 1: That is absolutely is it true? It's his muse. But
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Speaker 1: this film is from nineteen seventy two and it is
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Speaker 1: called Pink Flamingos. Now, now who here had seen it?
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Speaker 1: I had seen it before doing this, Ryan, Mark Rafall.
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Speaker 4: We've seen it, Yeah, seen it.
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Speaker 1: Like before we were doing this podcast series. Yeah, okay,
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Speaker 1: all right, good, good, good, good, So the I wanted
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Speaker 1: to talk about the backstory of me knowing this movie.
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Speaker 1: It was all it was always kind of illure for
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Speaker 1: me growing up, Like I had never I didn't know
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Speaker 1: what it was about. But it's alway. It's one of
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Speaker 1: those things where it's like when you were a little
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Speaker 1: kid growing up in the nineties or in middle school,
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Speaker 1: you knew about Show Girls, and you knew about Crash
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Speaker 1: directed by what's his name.
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Speaker 4: That fucking weird alright, David Croberg.
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Speaker 1: David Cronenberg, and like movies that are just known for
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Speaker 1: being the most inappropriate movies you could possibly imagine. And
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Speaker 1: I always kind of knew there was this movie called
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Speaker 1: Pink Flamingos that was crazy inappropriate, but I didn't know
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Speaker 1: anything about it. And I was in college and I
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Speaker 1: was taking a class because I was a film and
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Speaker 1: English major, taking a class called Film and Censorship, which
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Speaker 1: was awesome, And like we watched a lot about Deep Throat,
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Speaker 1: Inside Deep Throat, the documentary, which the documentary Inside Deep
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Speaker 1: Throat was rated in NC seventeen because fuck the MPAA
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Speaker 1: and one of the movies, so like we would have
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Speaker 1: a curriculum where it's like you have to watch this movie.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna discuss it in class, and then
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Speaker 1: there'd be side movies that it's like, you could watch
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Speaker 1: this if you want because it's relevant to the topic.
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Speaker 1: And I had to watch Pink Flamingos for a college class. Now,
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Speaker 1: my girlfriend at the time, who I will not name,
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Speaker 1: i've been I ended up dating her for five years.
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Speaker 1: She was my most serious girlfriend other than Shannon. She
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Speaker 1: grew up in a household that was very conservative, Catholic Republican,
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Speaker 1: so her dad was in the military. Her mom is
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Speaker 1: was raised in the South, so they were just She
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Speaker 1: had a very traditional, sort of like old school upbringing,
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Speaker 1: and she was a normal person, but she was just
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Speaker 1: a little bit like sheltered. And I said, there's this
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Speaker 1: crazy ass movie that we're supposed to watch for class.
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Speaker 1: Do you want to go to the to the college
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Speaker 1: library and watch it with me? They had it at
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Speaker 1: the college library. We rented like a private study room
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Speaker 1: with a with a DVD player, and we started watching
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Speaker 1: it and she walked out. She walked out, she was like,
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Speaker 1: this is disgusting. I don't want to watch this. I
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Speaker 1: feel really uncomfortable. I'm leaving, and she and she walked out,
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Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, cool, I'm going to stay
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Speaker 1: and finish this.
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Speaker 2: When did she leave?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there is a particular scene involving a chicken, which
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Speaker 1: is when she left. Yeah, okay, so we'll talk about
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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that in a moment because I have
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Speaker 1: a very I have a very particular unorthodox way I
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Speaker 1: want to go about this episode of Pink Flamingos. But
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Speaker 1: before I explain what that is, Mark, why don't you
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Speaker 1: explain Divine? Who is Divine? What we we said that
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Speaker 1: it's the Robert der Niro to John Watersmore Scorsese, Divine
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Speaker 1: is the main character this movie talk about Divine?
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Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, so Divine is a like legendary drag queen
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Speaker 2: who also is from Baltimore. I'm assuming because I think
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Speaker 2: like this was this whole crew that John Waters kind
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Speaker 2: of grew up with, right. Uh and and what.
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Speaker 1: Is it the Dreamlanders is the name of his whole.
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Speaker 2: Action, Yeah, something like this. Yeah, And I think like
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Speaker 2: John Waters basically said like Divine was like the most
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Speaker 2: beautiful like person he has ever seen, Like and uh
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Speaker 2: and yeah, Divine is this over the top kind of
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Speaker 2: disgusting kind of not sometimes I think in female trouble.
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Speaker 2: She looks really good actually, but but yeah, just this
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Speaker 2: over the top like the the I guess the premise
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Speaker 2: behind Pink Flamingos is that like Divine is the labeled
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Speaker 2: the filthiest person alive and has had to like go
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Speaker 2: undercover as a like this person like Babs or something
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Speaker 2: like can go in like hiding because she's the filthiest
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Speaker 2: person alive and she's just like.
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Speaker 1: Johnson.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: But but before like I guess, before like they started
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Speaker 2: working together in these shorts which I've seen, or like
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Speaker 2: that was there was like Mondo trash Show, and Divine
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Speaker 2: is just always like just the sort of like terrible
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Speaker 2: person uh like just running around like causing havoc wherever
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Speaker 2: she goes, and she has like a kind of loyal
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Speaker 2: group that's following her and usually some antagonist group as well.
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Speaker 2: There's some old short of Divine where she plays Jackie
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Speaker 2: Kennedy and it's like it's like her like in uh
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Speaker 2: like in the Car with JFK. But but yeah, Divine's
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Speaker 2: just this like legendary, legendary character, big personality, and she
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Speaker 2: is the star of Pink Flamingos as sort of herself.
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Speaker 2: But also this kind of imagine character, and the main
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Speaker 2: premise is that Divine is is famous because she's so
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Speaker 2: grotesque and filthy and disgusting, and that the public loves
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Speaker 2: that about her.
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Speaker 1: And Divine much like John Waters, I don't understand. I
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Speaker 1: love Divine and I appreciate her, or or like do
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Speaker 1: I call because Divine did not identify as trance. Divine
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Speaker 1: was a drag queen that identified as a gay man.
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Speaker 1: So should I call? I think, because Divine is always
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Speaker 1: playing female characters, I'm going to call her her when
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Speaker 1: I'm referring to her roles in movies, But I think
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Speaker 1: she would identify as a hymn.
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Speaker 2: I think you're.
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Speaker 3: Right, But Divine was what we would also act to
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Speaker 3: outside of drag professionally.
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Speaker 1: That's true.
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Speaker 4: That's true in a movie.
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Speaker 3: And it's the most distracting thing of all time because
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Speaker 3: you just kind of like, wait a minute, it doesn't
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Speaker 3: seem right.
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Speaker 4: You're like, he's playing a detective, and it's just like.
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Speaker 1: Mark. Mark is the only person that appreciates married with
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Speaker 1: children the way that I do Divine. When Divine died,
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Speaker 1: Divine died very young. Divine was died in nineteen.
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Speaker 4: Eighty eight.
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Speaker 1: Eighty eight and he was forty two. So that's crazy,
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Speaker 1: that's like our age. Now, he was about to appear,
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Speaker 1: I'm married with children when he died but didn't yet appear.
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Speaker 1: And he again, like John Waters, how was Divine mainstream?
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Speaker 1: I don't get it what we're going to talk about
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Speaker 1: in this movie? How was this person mainstream in the
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Speaker 1: seventies and eighties? And uh, Like I was reading Divine's
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Speaker 1: Wikipedia page. At Divine's funeral there was a big floral
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Speaker 1: arrangement sent by Whoopee Goldberg, and I'm like, what.
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Speaker 3: I think, similar to John though similar to John, like
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Speaker 3: Divine would do like TV show appearances and stuff like that,
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Speaker 3: like became a very public figure outside of just being
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Speaker 3: in the movies. And I think, like, well, honestly, it's
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Speaker 3: the image, right, right, It's such an iconic look that like.
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Speaker 2: It's so this is also like, yeah, it's also like
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Speaker 2: what John Water is Like a lot of this theme
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Speaker 2: of the Trash Trilogy is like that the public is
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Speaker 2: obsessed with things that are grotesque, and like it's exactly
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Speaker 2: what happened basically, Like it's this is exactly what he
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Speaker 2: was playing into.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, people pretend that they're not obsessed with this what
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Speaker 1: they are.
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Speaker 3: And I mean this movie made seven million dollars. The
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Speaker 3: twelve thousand dollars what isn't contained in this movie made
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Speaker 3: seven million dollars, Like what is that?
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Speaker 1: So John Water is in the in the runtime for
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Speaker 1: the twentieth anniversary DVD, he says, well, I'm gonna play
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Speaker 1: you the nineteen seventies trailer for this movie. Notice they
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Speaker 1: didn't include any footage from the movie, not a moment
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Speaker 1: of footage, And it was just literally people leaving the
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Speaker 1: midnight show saying like that was the craziest thing I've
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Speaker 1: ever seen, man, And that's that's how this movie made money.
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Speaker 4: I think it's so cool.
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Speaker 3: So Criterion released this on Blu ray like a few
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Speaker 3: years ago, and the cover is a just a brown bag.
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Speaker 3: And it was because when the movie was being like
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Speaker 3: played in theaters, it was like being like taken away,
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Speaker 3: like people would come find it and take it away,
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Speaker 3: like groups and stuff like that would find the princes
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Speaker 3: and try to take them away. So it was always
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Speaker 3: hidden in brown bags or renamed different movies so people
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Speaker 3: wouldn't steal it because like there was only a few
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Speaker 3: prints of it available at the time.
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Speaker 4: That was pretty interesting.
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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one, the film was selected for preservation
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Speaker 1: in the United States National Film Rights by the Library
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Speaker 1: of Congress Congress, being deemed quote culturally, historically, and esthetically significant.
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Speaker 1: Remember when we go into this movie.
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Speaker 4: As it should be.
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Speaker 1: Now, I don't want to spoil it, oh to everyone,
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Speaker 1: this is not my favorite of the Trash trilogy. However,
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Speaker 1: this is Divine's best look. This is Divine's most iconic look.
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Speaker 1: But the dress and the makeup, this is Divine's best look.
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Speaker 1: But I am not a gay man, So I want
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Speaker 1: to ask Mark and Rafal do you agree with me there?
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Speaker 2: I mean the the red dress and this wig that
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Speaker 2: is like sitting in the back of the head, Like,
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Speaker 2: this is absolutely like an iconic look. I was just
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Speaker 2: arguing that in Female Trouble, like I like Divine in
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Speaker 2: a dark wig.
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Speaker 4: I love the shaved side of the head. Amazing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because here there was this moment when she when
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Speaker 2: she leaves the trailer and she goes into the town
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Speaker 2: because quote unquote she hasn't fallen in love for three days,
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Speaker 2: so she needs to kind of you know, explore the markets,
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Speaker 2: and she goes all in foxes. I lift this moment.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think the fact that Divine the
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Speaker 1: man not in drag in real life was bald. So
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Speaker 1: the fact that the wig is set on the back
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Speaker 1: of her head. If she was a woman, she would
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Speaker 1: have shaved like the front half of her scalp, which
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Speaker 1: was just very odd looking. It's so absurd in the makeup,
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Speaker 1: just like the eyes. It's just if you look at
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Speaker 1: the cover of this movie, I mean it is iicon Nick.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it means yeah, I'm sure you saw that at
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Speaker 3: the Wikipedia. The whole thing with like the Little Mermaid,
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Speaker 3: that's the whole inspiration for Ursua.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. It's like it's such a contract.
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Speaker 1: I did not see this. Ryan explain this.
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Speaker 3: So, the guy who wrote the song is a very
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Speaker 3: famous playwright. He wrote not playwright but a stage playwriter,
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Speaker 3: if you will, wrote Little Chapahar's name is Howard Ashman,
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Speaker 3: and he was from Baltimore and knew John Waters, knew
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Speaker 3: this group. So when he was brought in to write
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Speaker 3: the songs and things for Ursula, when he wrote the
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Speaker 3: songs like poor Unfortunate Souls and stuff, he was like,
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Speaker 3: this is how I see this. And then when they
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Speaker 3: were like designing her, he was like, do this woman,
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Speaker 3: and they were like just kind of like do it differently,
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Speaker 3: and it's it's all there. Like you look at Ursula,
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Speaker 3: the eye, the eye, shadow, everything, it's all there is
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Speaker 3: not like it's just you can't even hide it.
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Speaker 1: Divine is basically a supervillain in every movie that she's.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, she turns, she turns, and some of them, some
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Speaker 3: of them starts off okay, and then it turns after
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Speaker 3: when circumstances go out of control.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: But this is the ultimate example of like, if you're
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Speaker 1: a middle schooler, what's the most inappropriate movie in the world.
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Speaker 1: You hear pink flamingos and that's what's so fascinating about it.
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Speaker 1: And that's why so many people in the seventies went
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Speaker 1: and saw The Midnight Show and the movie actually made money.
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Speaker 1: This really launched John Waters. Like he had made movies
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Speaker 1: before this, but this was the movie that launched John Waters.
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Speaker 3: So do you guys, I'm curious, you guys think this
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Speaker 3: is funny? I'm sorry, cut you off? No, no, no,
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Speaker 3: go ahead, right, I think it's just so funny.
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Speaker 4: How like.
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Speaker 3: New Line, who owns this movie, distributed it back in
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Speaker 3: the day when they were just an independent company. So
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Speaker 3: I don't know why, because they because they'd become a
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Speaker 3: major corporation.
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Speaker 4: They no longer exist, but they were.
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Speaker 3: Like when you watch this on dB, it has like
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Speaker 3: the new line opening of like a major emotion picture,
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Speaker 3: and then it just starts with like this whole video footage.
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Speaker 3: I just think that that transition, to me is so funny.
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Speaker 4: I love that this.
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Speaker 1: Is also not streaming anywhere, right.
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Speaker 4: Ryan, I don't very few if it's are.
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Speaker 3: I think the Criterion Channel because they have been releasing
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Speaker 3: all of his movies one by one, so I think
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Speaker 3: they're on there. But in terms of like, I'm surprised
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Speaker 3: not even two BE because two B is just everything
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Speaker 3: and they don't care about content at all.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, they're all pretty scarce right now.
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Speaker 3: Even Hairspray, which it would be everywhere because it's just
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Speaker 3: so popular, even the musical version of it.
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Speaker 4: I'm kind of surprised.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm I have a specific format I want
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Speaker 1: to do for this movie that I thought of, but
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Speaker 1: first I'm just going to explain the plot because it
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Speaker 1: will be relevant to what I'm doing. This is a comedy,
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Speaker 1: so keep in mind, you know, if you're completely outraged
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Speaker 1: listening to what happens in this movie. This is an
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Speaker 1: intentionally over the top ridiculous comedy, so don't get your
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Speaker 1: your pennies in the twist. I guess this would be
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Speaker 1: a good expression for this. But the plot of the
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Speaker 1: movie is there. There's a couple played by mink Stole
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Speaker 1: and this other guy who's often in his He's part
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Speaker 1: of his crew of Baltimore actors. I can't remember his
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Speaker 1: name in real life? Who are Jealouck?
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Speaker 4: What David Lockery? Is his name?
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Speaker 1: David Lockery? Thank you. They're jealous of Divine for being
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Speaker 1: known as the filthiest person in the world. So MiG
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Speaker 1: Stole and David Lockery are trying to steal the title
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Speaker 1: from Divine, and Divine is trying to win it back.
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Speaker 1: They're like competing to see who is the filthiest person
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Speaker 1: in the world. That's really all you need to know
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Speaker 1: of the plot. There's nothing else needs to be said.
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Speaker 1: So what I have here is my personal order, which
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Speaker 1: you may disagree with, of the top ten most horrifying
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Speaker 1: things that happened in this movie. So horrifying, shocking, disgusting,
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Speaker 1: or just like outrageously taboo things that happen in this movie.
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Speaker 1: And I'm going to go in my particular order, and
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Speaker 1: I want you all to react and feel free to
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Speaker 1: agree or disagree with me, but don't spoil what's going
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Speaker 1: to happen later on down the line, because I bet
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Speaker 1: you can imagine what the top three are really. So
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Speaker 1: I'll start off with number ten. I'll start with number ten.
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at my list and I didn't organize my
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Speaker 1: list beforehand. I just wanted to read I have ten
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Speaker 1: things in no particular order. I'm gonna react off of
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Speaker 1: what I'm thinking now, I'm gonna go at number ten
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Speaker 1: is going to be cannibalism, just because it was so
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Speaker 1: it was played for it was played for laughs and ridiculous.
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Speaker 1: So basically like the they're having this outrageous party divine
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Speaker 1: and it's a wedding, but we'll get into that later
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Speaker 1: and uh mixed Ale and David Lock recall the cops.
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Speaker 1: So when the cops show up to break up the party,
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Speaker 1: the party goers stab them to death of meak leavers
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Speaker 1: and eat the cops. Now, because this is the reason
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Speaker 1: this is ten is because it's like it's not at
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Speaker 1: all serious. It's just kind of you're just kind of like,
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Speaker 1: what is even happening right now. So didn't this is tame,
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Speaker 1: This is tame, this is tame. It didn't like rock
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Speaker 1: me in any way. Would you agree with that?
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Speaker 2: Yes, totally, okay, I mean it wasn't even about being rocking.
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Speaker 2: It was actually pleasing.
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Speaker 1: That they killed the cops and ate them.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, I felt like, yes, great, it's a good job. Yes,
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Speaker 2: probably resolved the party. The party continues.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. It was like, nobody likes the cops
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Speaker 1: in this context, and they're breaking up a pretty interesting party.
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Speaker 1: So you know, good on them for no, not allowing
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Speaker 1: them to break it up. That'll be number ten, number nine.
20:05
Speaker 1: Ooh man, this is kind of this is tough, but
20:08
Speaker 1: I'm going to say just the idea of the Baby Ring.
20:13
Speaker 1: So David Lockery and Minstol are the couple that are
20:16
Speaker 1: trying to steal the title of the filthiest people alive.
20:20
Speaker 1: They are imprisoning girls. Remember this is a comedy. They're
20:25
Speaker 1: imprisoning women in their basement, getting them pregnant, and then
20:28
Speaker 1: selling their children, specifically to lesbians. And then when asked
20:34
Speaker 1: about what are you doing with the money, they don't
20:36
Speaker 1: show it, but they say we're using it to fund
20:39
Speaker 1: a heroin ring in the local elementary schools because they're
20:44
Speaker 1: just trying to be the filthiest people alive. But like
20:48
Speaker 1: the humor and having women chained up in your basement
20:52
Speaker 1: that are being impregnated against their will, it's tough. It's tough.
21:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you gotta just watch it like it's no,
21:11
Speaker 2: I mean, sound objectively disturbed. It is objective disturbing Byolemia.
21:16
Speaker 2: They're also like cruising around, like pitching up, picking up
21:18
Speaker 2: hitchhikers to kidnap. Yeah. Yeah, that was actually kind of
21:21
Speaker 2: inconsistency as well, because the last one is actually pregnant
21:24
Speaker 2: as they kidnap her, isn't she No, no, she gets no.
21:27
Speaker 2: She was also intended to be impregnated. Okay, poor Channing,
21:31
Speaker 2: this is servant that.
21:31
Speaker 1: They have this poor guy, poor Channing, No ching, that
21:37
Speaker 1: that would be that would be My number eight is
21:42
Speaker 1: Channing's castration. So uh, their servant deserves is right, Their
21:49
Speaker 1: servant Minxtol and David Lockery's servant, Channing is impregnating these girls.
21:54
Speaker 1: When the girls are freed, they castrate Channing, and they
21:58
Speaker 1: don't they don't show it. They don't show his penis
22:02
Speaker 1: being cut off. But they show his stump bleeding out,
22:07
Speaker 1: and I didn't I put this is high on the
22:09
Speaker 1: list because they didn't show it being cut off. It
22:13
Speaker 1: looks pretty fake. And also you're almost happy that this happened.
22:17
Speaker 2: Right, And I think what's great is like Divine and
22:20
Speaker 2: her son are there, and like I love they only
22:22
Speaker 2: show their reaction to the castration and they're's like smiling,
22:25
Speaker 2: like the first show them suggests they can do whatever
22:27
Speaker 2: they want to channing yeah in the first place, and
22:30
Speaker 2: then they show reaction. But I think also what's great
22:33
Speaker 2: about this movie is that you're like rooting for Divine
22:36
Speaker 2: because like Divine is the filthiest person, but like she's
22:39
Speaker 2: kind of fun. And I feel like the couple is
22:41
Speaker 2: just like awful. They're just like they're not filthy, they're
22:44
Speaker 2: just like terrible people like pretending to not be that.
22:47
Speaker 2: Divine's just who she is.
22:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, and exactly, and Divine's it's like cool. You can't
22:52
Speaker 1: try to be cool because cool it just naturally happens.
22:55
Speaker 1: Divine just naturally is filthy. And these people are like trying,
23:00
Speaker 1: they're tryhards. They're tryhards. You know, nobody likes a tryhard. Okay.
23:06
Speaker 1: Number seven this is honestly tough. I would say, yeah,
23:16
Speaker 1: I would say, uh, blue pubes is number seven. David Lockery. This,
23:22
Speaker 1: this rocked me more than most things in this movie.
23:25
Speaker 1: David Lockery has blue hair and a mustache, and there's
23:28
Speaker 1: a scene where he gets nude and he has blue pubes.
23:31
Speaker 1: He dyed his pubes blue, and I've just never seen
23:35
Speaker 1: that in my entire life in porn or in life,
23:39
Speaker 1: or in film or in you know, just really rattled
23:44
Speaker 1: me to see blue pubes.
23:47
Speaker 2: So as an obsessive, compulsive person, I was very appreciative
23:50
Speaker 2: of this moment. I was like, yes, attention to detail,
23:54
Speaker 2: top carpet.
23:56
Speaker 1: Matching the drapes exactly, and having to do that, I know,
24:01
Speaker 1: like hair ed eye if you have sensitive skin, can
24:03
Speaker 1: be problematic. So just you know, that really rocked me.
24:11
Speaker 1: Him and mink Stool have a love scene and he
24:14
Speaker 1: has blue pubes. Ah oh man.
24:18
Speaker 2: And she's called reds doesn't she? I think so, But
24:20
Speaker 2: they don't really show her, so yeah, yeah, I think
24:23
Speaker 2: she also has the red pubes.
24:25
Speaker 1: Also, though even if it's dyed, red is a natural
24:28
Speaker 1: human hair color or close to you know, fire engine
24:31
Speaker 1: red is a natural, but it's close to an human
24:33
Speaker 1: hair color. Blue is not blue occurs in nature very infrequently.
24:39
Speaker 1: You got like blueberries and you got water and that's
24:42
Speaker 1: about it. So yeah, it's it's just freaked me out.
24:47
Speaker 1: I would say number six, this is it. Honestly, this
24:53
Speaker 1: is the most tame thing on the list. But we
24:55
Speaker 1: were talking about Henry like it's more about vibes and
24:59
Speaker 1: not content. Number six is just the egg Man in general,
25:03
Speaker 1: just making me feel really really uncomfortable about eggs. And
25:08
Speaker 1: I want, I want Ryan to explain the egg man.
25:14
Speaker 3: So he comes around with a box, a very nice
25:18
Speaker 3: box of different types of eggs, and it's bringing them
25:23
Speaker 3: for Divine's mother, who is in a cage and I
25:27
Speaker 3: think has the worst egg scene later in my.
25:29
Speaker 1: Opinion, but in a baby's crib.
25:32
Speaker 3: In a baby's crib, and he they fall in love.
25:38
Speaker 3: But I don't know what else.
25:41
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think Ryan articulated that. Well, Mark,
25:44
Speaker 1: will you fill in the gaps of why this is disturbing?
25:48
Speaker 4: Well?
25:48
Speaker 2: I sure, I mean the like Divine's mother is obsessed
25:54
Speaker 2: with eggs. I think what's disturbing is like to me
26:00
Speaker 2: because I was thinking about, like, who are the most
26:02
Speaker 2: like aside from Divine, Like who's the most messed up
26:06
Speaker 2: in this? Because I feel like Divine's mom is, like
26:08
Speaker 2: they reference that she's like mentally unstable. Divine moms also
26:12
Speaker 2: gave birth to Divine. Divine is then like her son
26:16
Speaker 2: is there, and I feel like the son grew up
26:18
Speaker 2: in that environment, so I can't blame him for anything.
26:21
Speaker 2: But there was like three characters that I was thinking,
26:24
Speaker 2: like why are they here? The eggman was one. I
26:26
Speaker 2: was like, what is he doing with his life? Like
26:29
Speaker 2: he's he's coming to this unmarked trailer. The mom is
26:34
Speaker 2: obsessed with eggs. She wants to eat them all the time.
26:36
Speaker 2: She's just like shoving them in her mouth. She's getting
26:39
Speaker 2: really upset when there's no eggs, like she's constantly concerned
26:42
Speaker 2: about them. And then the eggman comes and they kind
26:45
Speaker 2: of just like fall in love because he sells them
26:50
Speaker 2: and she's obsessed with them. And yeah, I just didn't
26:54
Speaker 2: understand the eggman's true intentions or like what he was
26:57
Speaker 2: doing generally with his life.
27:00
Speaker 1: So the love of eggs, this is true intention. Eggs
27:04
Speaker 1: are It's such a perfect food for this because it's
27:06
Speaker 1: one of those things where it's like I love eggs.
27:09
Speaker 1: I eat them all the time, but they are You're
27:11
Speaker 1: eating embryos, like you're eating an animal embryo. And that's
27:15
Speaker 1: really fucking weird if you think about it. So to
27:18
Speaker 1: make eggs gross is like not very hard. That's why
27:22
Speaker 1: like the concept of mayonnaise, even though I like mayonnaise
27:25
Speaker 1: is gross. I agree with that on that. And Ryan,
27:27
Speaker 1: you said that she had one of the most disturbing
27:29
Speaker 1: eggs scenes. What do you mean explain that? Please?
27:33
Speaker 3: I don't want to tap into this too hard if
27:35
Speaker 3: it's going to be into another section.
27:36
Speaker 4: But at the.
27:38
Speaker 3: Ceremony, the reception, and like they's just they just keep
27:42
Speaker 3: cutting back to someone like feeding her a lot of eggs,
27:45
Speaker 3: and it's just the visual is just terrific.
27:48
Speaker 4: It's just like it's so it's just like so repulsive.
27:52
Speaker 1: And she she seems I don't know if she actually
27:55
Speaker 1: was in real life, but she seems almost mentally disabled.
27:59
Speaker 1: She's morbidly obe. She's in a baby's crib, she's covered
28:02
Speaker 1: in scrambled eggs.
28:04
Speaker 2: Uh.
28:05
Speaker 1: And her she started a punk band, like a avant
28:09
Speaker 1: garde like punk band or something called Eatie and the Eggs.
28:14
Speaker 1: After these movies came out, she's catching it. She's catching it.
28:20
Speaker 2: But she was also kind of amused with John Waters.
28:23
Speaker 4: Wasn't she like she was a lot of stuff?
28:25
Speaker 1: Yes, definitely. I was actually glad to see her in
28:28
Speaker 1: other roles because this role just made me so uncomfortable.
28:31
Speaker 1: I needed to like wipe the slate clean and think
28:34
Speaker 1: that she wasn't just this, but this my girlfriend who
28:39
Speaker 1: walked out on the movie. We haven't gotten to watch
28:41
Speaker 1: she walked out yet. But the egg Man was like
28:44
Speaker 1: number two. I just hate this. I don't get it.
28:47
Speaker 1: I'm uncomfortable. So egg Man would be like her number
28:52
Speaker 1: two least favorite thing of the first half that she saw. Okay,
28:57
Speaker 1: ooh man, I would say number five. I would be
29:04
Speaker 1: I at number five would be the trans flasher. And
29:08
Speaker 1: not that there's anything wrong with trans people, but this
29:12
Speaker 1: is nineteen seventy two, right, And there's a character David
29:19
Speaker 1: Lochray who one of the ways he makes money, it
29:23
Speaker 1: says in the Wikipedia page, like his income is the
29:26
Speaker 1: baby ring, selling babies to lesbians and reminding everyone this
29:30
Speaker 1: is a comedy that's on the National that's in the
29:34
Speaker 1: Library of Congress as being culturally significant. He also makes
29:38
Speaker 1: money by flashing women in the park, so they are
29:41
Speaker 1: scared and run away, and then he steals their purse.
29:45
Speaker 1: So he does that to a woman and she flashes
29:48
Speaker 1: her chest back her boobs, and she's like pretty and
29:52
Speaker 1: has nice boobs, so he kind of goes like, oh,
29:55
Speaker 1: like this hasn't happened before, but I'm liking this. Then
29:58
Speaker 1: she flashes the bottom and you see that she's actually
30:01
Speaker 1: a man who has male genitalia, and he freaks out
30:04
Speaker 1: and runs away. Now, if you're trying to freak people
30:07
Speaker 1: out in nineteen seventy two, like this would freak people
30:13
Speaker 1: out now pretty significantly. So it was just jarring in
30:19
Speaker 1: a way that I was like, oh my god, I
30:20
Speaker 1: was not expecting that. Also, not to go on this
30:23
Speaker 1: down this rabbit hole, but like the I didn't think
30:26
Speaker 1: like breast and plant technology existed in nineteen seventy two,
30:29
Speaker 1: but apparently it did. I'll love Ryan deep dive that
30:33
Speaker 1: for a future pod. But yeah, were you guys pressed
30:37
Speaker 1: to see this or am I just being a transphobe?
30:40
Speaker 2: I kind of loved the idea of I think there
30:43
Speaker 2: was a kind of universal truth that any performance can
30:45
Speaker 2: be outperformed, and that's exactly what's happening over there.
30:49
Speaker 1: So refall Mark criticized you for talking about cry Babe
30:52
Speaker 1: like a philosopher, professor. That's why you're here is to
30:56
Speaker 1: make a comment like that. You're absolutely right. This goes
30:59
Speaker 1: to like any performance that you think you have can
31:03
Speaker 1: be outperformed, and Divine will outperform you. And this trans
31:06
Speaker 1: character is not played by divine, but it's a similar themes.
31:11
Speaker 3: And I thought the whole idea of like the Marble,
31:13
Speaker 3: it's like just being like the villain couple. It was
31:16
Speaker 3: just showing you, like him getting his come uppins because
31:18
Speaker 3: of course it's shocking, but also like even though I
31:21
Speaker 3: think he still got the purse, did he not?
31:23
Speaker 4: No he didn't. He ran away in fear. Sorry no
31:25
Speaker 4: he ran away.
31:27
Speaker 3: But I think that's kind of like also the idea
31:29
Speaker 3: of it too, like storytelling wise, to be like bear
31:32
Speaker 3: jig is up.
31:34
Speaker 1: I also what's his name? Fielder Gross Sison? Fielder Grass
31:41
Speaker 1: Sison debated Ben Shapiro on trans issues, and he said,
31:44
Speaker 1: other than playing in sports, which is problematic and is
31:48
Speaker 1: a whole thing to unpack, if you took playing in
31:51
Speaker 1: sports out of it, why do you care about trans
31:54
Speaker 1: people at all? And to me, there there is no
31:59
Speaker 1: explanation to me. I mean, if you really think like
32:03
Speaker 1: they're going to corrupt our children and go into their bathrooms,
32:05
Speaker 1: then I think you're like beyond saving. But yeah, it's
32:12
Speaker 1: just anyways. I was surprised to see something so progressive
32:19
Speaker 1: displayed so explicitly in nineteen seventy two. Okay, okay, we
32:27
Speaker 1: got four left, number four, we're really getting this is
32:32
Speaker 1: hard cuts, guys. Number We're these top four are like.
32:36
Speaker 4: Whole lot in here in here, yep.
32:42
Speaker 1: I would say number four is the chicken. And this
32:47
Speaker 1: is where my girlfriend at the time walked out of
32:49
Speaker 1: the film it would no longer watch with me and
32:52
Speaker 1: was like upset, Mark, will you explain this scene?
32:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, so then brings a date over, Divine Sun brings
33:03
Speaker 2: a date over, and they go.
33:05
Speaker 1: To Crackers, the same Crackers.
33:08
Speaker 2: The son is name Cracker. Yes, and maybe it's worth
33:11
Speaker 2: noting we haven't brought up Cotton yet, but Cotton actually
33:14
Speaker 2: on this watch throw of Pink Flamingos. I really loved
33:17
Speaker 2: Cotton because I was like, I never really thought much
33:19
Speaker 2: about her, but actually I feel like she was the
33:21
Speaker 2: most psychotic out of the crew there. But Cotton like love,
33:24
Speaker 2: She wants to watch Crackers like have sex with other women,
33:28
Speaker 2: and she gets turned on and she wants it to
33:30
Speaker 2: be like more.
33:31
Speaker 4: Extreme each time.
33:33
Speaker 2: So she's Cotton is watching through the window that Divine sun.
33:37
Speaker 2: Cracker brings over this girl Cookie I believe her name was,
33:41
Speaker 2: And Cookie was also a spy for the Marbles to
33:44
Speaker 2: like find out where Divine was hiding out in the
33:47
Speaker 2: woods in her trailer park, and they decide to I think,
33:54
Speaker 2: like basically Cracker is like living in a chicken coop,
33:57
Speaker 2: like that's what it seemed like. And he's basically forcefully
34:03
Speaker 2: using a live chicken, shoving it in between him and
34:07
Speaker 2: her while having sex to the point where blood is drawn.
34:11
Speaker 2: I think the chicken is also murdered during this, Like
34:14
Speaker 2: the chicken is killed during this, Like I think he
34:18
Speaker 2: brings another one as well. This scene is still very
34:21
Speaker 2: uncomfortable to watch. I would agree this, like I think
34:24
Speaker 2: this would be my number one.
34:26
Speaker 4: Actually this maybe more for me.
34:27
Speaker 1: There's three other one.
34:28
Speaker 2: To be number two, maybe number two.
34:31
Speaker 1: There's four, there's four other one. There's three other ones. Sorry,
34:36
Speaker 1: And this is this is a real chicken and it
34:38
Speaker 1: really was killed in this scene. It was crushed in
34:41
Speaker 1: between these two people. The blood is real. This is
34:43
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two, twelve thousand dollars budget. They really did
34:47
Speaker 1: kill a chicken. And John Water says he gets questions
34:49
Speaker 1: about this all the time, but this is when Mike.
34:53
Speaker 1: But also if you have a chicken coop, why do
34:55
Speaker 1: you need the eggman so badly?
34:58
Speaker 2: Good point, It's not enough. It's not enough.
35:02
Speaker 1: And that was my biggest takeaway is after this movie,
35:05
Speaker 1: like I would say to my girlfriend randomly, eggs, I
35:08
Speaker 1: need eggs egg Man, and she would say, like, no, no,
35:12
Speaker 1: that's not funny, that's gross. I don't want to talk
35:14
Speaker 1: about this, Okay, So that's shockingly number four. Then we
35:21
Speaker 1: have three left. I would say number three is the gaping.
35:29
Speaker 2: So you're gaping. Gaping is less less extreme than the chicken.
35:37
Speaker 1: I don't agree for me, And because like Mark, I
35:41
Speaker 1: don't know other than pink flamingos, I have never seen
35:49
Speaker 1: a man do this in my life. But I want
35:54
Speaker 1: to read the description of this on Wikipedia. Entertainers at
35:59
Speaker 1: the Way feature a topless woman with a snake act
36:02
Speaker 1: and a contortionist who flexes his prolapsed anus in rhythm
36:06
Speaker 1: to the song Surfing Bird, which is by the surf
36:12
Speaker 1: rock band The trash Men, and it goes ba ba
36:14
Speaker 1: ba uh mau mau baa ma and is literally a
36:19
Speaker 1: man flexing his anus in the camera to the tune
36:25
Speaker 1: of this song as like, this is Oh, this is
36:28
Speaker 1: who we have for entertainment for the Reset wedding reception.
36:31
Speaker 3: The crowd reactions are yes, what it is, just like oh,
36:36
Speaker 3: They're just like, oh, look he's doing this.
36:39
Speaker 4: They're just like just not.
36:40
Speaker 3: There's no whether the contortionist or him, there's no difference
36:43
Speaker 3: in their reaction.
36:44
Speaker 4: Yeah.
36:45
Speaker 2: So I actually wanted to have him perform during our
36:47
Speaker 2: wedding reception, but the same times out that he died
36:49
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty unfortunate thing.
36:52
Speaker 1: Well, it just sort of it's just sort of different culturally,
36:56
Speaker 1: you know, because me and Ryan being straight. It's like
36:59
Speaker 1: finding out that and uh, you know, I can't think
37:03
Speaker 1: of an example, like like when Andy married Ashley. Perfect example.
37:08
Speaker 1: There's like the Persian sugar ceremony where I don't remember
37:12
Speaker 1: I was part of it. I had to like set
37:14
Speaker 1: it up, and I was so worried I was gonna
37:15
Speaker 1: screw it up, but I had to like throw sugar somewhere.
37:18
Speaker 1: I don't remember, so in gay weddings. This is just
37:21
Speaker 1: a common thing that happens all the time. The grooms
37:24
Speaker 1: are doing it, the grooms are doing it together.
37:27
Speaker 2: Wow, in sync?
37:30
Speaker 1: In sync. Wow, that takes a lot of It's like,
37:32
Speaker 1: it's like straight couples practice for the first dance, and
37:36
Speaker 1: that's what you guys did. Is you practice for that?
37:42
Speaker 2: No, it's kind of you know, what's it's kind of,
37:45
Speaker 2: of course cute. How this is kind of you know,
37:49
Speaker 2: coming up because obviously it is very niche of a performance.
37:54
Speaker 2: But again, as Mark said, uh, definitely outraged. The chicken
37:59
Speaker 2: situation way higher up, and to me it was actually
38:03
Speaker 2: genuinely disturbing, whereas this one, I was just like, oh,
38:12
Speaker 2: this is actually possible. But nothing more than that.
38:15
Speaker 1: My loge is gonna be the same as John Waters
38:17
Speaker 1: when I was watching an interview with him, is like,
38:18
Speaker 1: I kill chickens every day through secondhand consumption of chicken,
38:23
Speaker 1: so I don't kill chickens while having sex with someone
38:27
Speaker 1: and crushing them. But like, seeing the death of a
38:30
Speaker 1: chicken in this way just didn't wear weird me out
38:32
Speaker 1: as much. But I don't know, that's just me Ryan,
38:35
Speaker 1: which would be higher on your list being.
38:37
Speaker 3: Straight from me personally the chicken, So I think seeing
38:41
Speaker 3: it the second time, I was kind of like, I
38:43
Speaker 3: think especially because you're like your memory of seeing it
38:45
Speaker 3: the first time, because it's all shock, and then you're like, Okay,
38:48
Speaker 3: what's going to hit me harder at this time? Or
38:50
Speaker 3: what's going to hit me again just as hard? And
38:52
Speaker 3: like the asshole thing, of course is just like you're
38:54
Speaker 3: kind of like what is this real? Like how is
38:56
Speaker 3: this working? And then the chicken is like Oh. At first,
39:00
Speaker 3: you're like this could just be like a puppet or
39:02
Speaker 3: an already dead chicken, but then you like when you
39:04
Speaker 3: see it kind of move on its own, you're kind
39:06
Speaker 3: of like, oh, this thing is real, and it's like,
39:07
Speaker 3: did you guys ever seek Do you guys ever see
39:09
Speaker 3: Cannibal Holocaust?
39:11
Speaker 1: No? I know, I know all about it.
39:12
Speaker 3: Sorry if it's it's not a common rental, but they
39:16
Speaker 3: kill a turtle in that movie. It's an Italian horror
39:18
Speaker 3: movie and it's just very disgusting and it's very very
39:21
Speaker 3: cold and mean, and I've always been like I saw
39:23
Speaker 3: it once and I was like, I genuinely will never
39:25
Speaker 3: see this movie again because it's just so disgusting and
39:28
Speaker 3: heartless and it's the way they do It is genuinely terrible.
39:32
Speaker 3: And I was always just like that's always just stuck
39:33
Speaker 3: in my head. So the chicken one was like bad.
39:36
Speaker 3: Then they bring a second one in and I'm like, guys, like, yeah.
39:39
Speaker 1: As a moviegoer, you start to think, oh, this has
39:43
Speaker 1: to be fake. But then you realize, like of course
39:45
Speaker 1: you're watching the video quality, you're realizing it's nineteen seventy two.
39:48
Speaker 1: You know, like, oh, this is real.
39:50
Speaker 2: And the chicken's very interesting. It's also very interesting how
39:54
Speaker 2: the actor is actually like what job they did? Because
39:58
Speaker 2: this chicken like being at she crashed in between the
40:01
Speaker 2: two of them. It was actually struggling to survive, so
40:03
Speaker 2: probably some scratches were actually involved in the blood might
40:06
Speaker 2: have been actually the blood of the actress, which just
40:08
Speaker 2: actually even kind of adding on top of this quite
40:11
Speaker 2: disturbing scene in the first place.
40:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't be comfortable with any of this, So yeah,
40:18
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I'm biased to support the chicken
40:21
Speaker 1: scene because my girlfriend walked out on it, but yeah,
40:25
Speaker 1: it's a tough watch number two and you might be
40:29
Speaker 1: shocked if this is number two. But is it is
40:31
Speaker 1: eating shit? It's number two for me. So this the
40:38
Speaker 1: most famous scene in this movie is Divine, the actress,
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Speaker 1: who is the filthiest person in the world. There is
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Speaker 1: a single long take where a dog, so you know
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Speaker 1: it's not fake, you know, especially in nineteen seventy two,
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Speaker 1: they could not fake this. A dog comes on camera,
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Speaker 1: there's no cuts. The dog shits on the ground. This
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Speaker 1: is the end of the movie. This is like the
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Speaker 1: last scene. Divine picks up the ship as soon as
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Speaker 1: the dog shits on the ground and she eats it
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Speaker 1: for real in real life and smiles for the camera,
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Speaker 1: smiles for the camera, and you could see that she's
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Speaker 1: like trying not to vomit. Yes, again, this is a
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Speaker 1: comedy that is registered in the Library of Congress. And
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Speaker 1: the only thing that's come close to John Waters since
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Speaker 1: honestly is Jackass. Like Jackass in Jackass, which is a
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Speaker 1: theatrically released film, Dave England eats animal feces in the
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Speaker 1: film and they don't edit it. So honestly, like I think,
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Speaker 1: John Waters isn't John Waters in Jackass, Ryan he is.
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Speaker 4: He's in two.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's in Jackass too.
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Speaker 3: He does to make we men disappear when the giant
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Speaker 3: woman falls on him on the bed.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yes, and it's and like John Water, Like I honestly
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Speaker 1: think that Jackass is partly inspired by John Waters.
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Speaker 4: Mm. Yeah yeah.
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Speaker 1: Any any thoughts or the things you want to discuss
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Speaker 1: with with Divine Eating Ship, with.
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Speaker 3: Divine gags you just know, like oh yeah, just like yep,
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Speaker 3: there's no there's no getting around this.
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Speaker 1: Daniel day Lewis couldn't act in this scene.
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Speaker 2: The music is great too. It's like, how much is
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Speaker 2: that dog in the window?
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Speaker 4: To me?
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Speaker 3: What's so funny too, is after the credits, like the
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Speaker 3: movie kind of ends and they just have like this
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Speaker 3: little thing at the end.
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Speaker 4: I think it's well.
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Speaker 1: Also, I want to mention to go back to the
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Speaker 1: scene we just discussed with the man Danus is the
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Speaker 1: fact that it's surfing Bird, which family guy has like
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Speaker 1: an ongoing health The surfing bird is like the worst
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Speaker 1: song of all time. Uh. The fact that it's surfing
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Speaker 1: Bird adds to the mystique of the scene. And unless
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Speaker 1: we have nothing else to say about Divine Eating Ship,
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Speaker 1: my number one most rattled in this movie is again
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Speaker 1: this is I keep saying this. This is a comedy
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Speaker 1: that is in the library of Congress for being culturally significant.
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Speaker 1: Divine philates her Son on camera. It is in the
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Speaker 1: movie Crackers plays her son, or the character Crackers is
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Speaker 1: her son. There's a scene where Divine philates Crackers. They
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Speaker 1: show it on camera for real and it is her son.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. Actually I kind of like overlooked that.
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Speaker 1: You happen to overlook that. Does anybody disagree with me?
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Speaker 3: I think by this time you're just like it's just
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Speaker 3: like just.
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Speaker 4: Beaten to a corner. You're like, Okay, what the fuck
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Speaker 4: is going to be next? And then they end it.
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Speaker 4: I think this ship is worse my personal opinion.
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Speaker 3: I think like take away of course, like the dramatic
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Speaker 3: aspect of that, like just the visual of the ship.
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Speaker 4: It's like, oh my god.
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Speaker 1: Now, So I'm going to disagree with you, Ryan, and
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Speaker 1: I'll pose this to you. Would you rather eat fresh
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Speaker 1: dog shit or have your dad perform a sexual act
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Speaker 1: on you?
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Speaker 3: Was the one hundred percent straight the person I can't
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Speaker 3: allow that, So I guess I'm.
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Speaker 4: Maybe a dog shit.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my counter I get.
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Speaker 3: I say, I'm saying taking the drama out of it,
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Speaker 3: but like the visceral, like because you can be extreme
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Speaker 3: and like when Divine is doing that, there's no restraint.
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Speaker 3: When when when she's doing that, like the like the dog,
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Speaker 3: when I think she realizes like she touched the electric fence,
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Speaker 3: she's like, oh shit, like this was worse than I
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Speaker 3: thought I was gonna be.
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Speaker 4: And it's just like you can just like feel it.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, did you know what I think was actually
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Speaker 2: happening over here in the scenes that we tried to
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Speaker 2: I think kind of not even justified, but kind of
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Speaker 2: dismiss it kind of internally, as in, oh yeah, it's
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Speaker 2: just actors exactly. We know there's no actual bloodline connection whatsoever.
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Speaker 2: So I think our kind of brain allows us to
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Speaker 2: go through this scene like like at these In my case,
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Speaker 2: I'm not so this deep. I just kind of okay,
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Speaker 2: like fine, yeah, I live with it.
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Speaker 1: It's not it's not crazy to not be following the
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Speaker 1: plot of this movie if you're watching it. So I
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Speaker 1: was watching it and I was like, oh, I thought Crackers,
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Speaker 1: Like during the scene where she's blowing crackers, I was like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I thought Crackers was her son. And then I was like,
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Speaker 1: wait a minute, is Crackers her son? And I looked
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Speaker 1: it up a Wikipedia and I was reading and this
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Speaker 1: says Crackers was her son. I was like, holy shit, Crackers,
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Speaker 1: I thought he was her son.
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Speaker 4: But I'm build up.
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Speaker 3: It's like he's like, I want your power, mom, like
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Speaker 3: you're so powerful and you're so great, like I need
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Speaker 3: your power, and she's like I need yours and you're like, okay.
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Speaker 4: All right, yeah they don't kind of yeah.
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Speaker 2: And they were licking a lot of things like leading
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Speaker 2: up to that too, like they were licking a lot
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Speaker 2: of things in the house. So maybe it's just like
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Speaker 2: I think this, yeah, the sofas afterwards rejecting marble.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, m And that is my That is my list
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Speaker 1: of the top ten most disturbing things in Pink Flamingos.
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Speaker 1: We can go to Pink Flamingo's advice unless you have
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Speaker 1: other thoughts that you wanted to.
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Speaker 3: Share, can we because we Mark brought this up earlier,
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Speaker 3: where like the volume in these movies, I couldn't stop
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Speaker 3: laughing when she gets to the birthday gift, which is
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Speaker 3: a piece of shit in a box, and her reaction
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Speaker 3: when she screwed.
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Speaker 5: Oh my god, I just throws. I fucking laughed so
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Speaker 5: hard just because the way she reacted. And then whoever,
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Speaker 5: I think she's with Cookie and she has the envelope,
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Speaker 5: and the envel just says fatso like it's weird to her.
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Speaker 5: It was just I fucking killed me. I'm sorry, It's
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Speaker 5: just like her scream made me laugh so hard.
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Speaker 1: So this movie has a narrator, and the narrator is
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Speaker 1: John Waters, and he intentionally talks in like a thick
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Speaker 1: Baltimore accent. But he says at one point in a
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Speaker 1: location known is downtown Balmer, and that's how Baltimore people talk,
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Speaker 1: which is disgusting. Well, I have my advice, but does
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Speaker 1: anybody want to share any other thing?
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Speaker 2: And I just say that, like, and there's just one
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Speaker 2: quote Raphael wrote down like when we were watching the movie,
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Speaker 2: and this is about Cotton that I really loved. I
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Speaker 2: never because like there's a lot of famous also quotes
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Speaker 2: in this especially when Divine's like her politics are like eats,
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Speaker 2: you know, fucking.
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Speaker 1: Well, sorry, I'm I'm interrupting you, Mark, because that was
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Speaker 1: my advice. When I asked, okay, sorry, what are your
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Speaker 1: political beliefs? Divine said, kill everyone, condone first degree murder,
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Speaker 1: advocate cannibalism, eat shit. Filth is my politics, and filth
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Speaker 1: is my life. That's my advice.
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Speaker 2: I continue, Mark, why don't you want to be now
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Speaker 2: quoting Cotton. Yeah, So, like Cotton is just first of all,
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Speaker 2: Cotton is a traveling companion, so she's there willingly, like
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Speaker 2: following Vine around and they ask Cotton. The reporter that
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Speaker 2: comes like, so they capture the marbles and they're going
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Speaker 2: to execute them, and Divine calls all the like paparazzi
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Speaker 2: to come and like, you know, newspeople to come and
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Speaker 2: see what's happening. And one of the news guys says
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Speaker 2: to Cotton, I see a smile on your lips. Does
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Speaker 2: murder make you happy? And Cotton goes murder merely relieves tension.
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Speaker 2: For murder to bring happiness, one must already be happy.
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Speaker 2: And I am completely at peace with myself, totally happy.
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Speaker 2: I just love that, Like that's so psychotic. So my
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Speaker 2: advice is just be completely at peace with yourself and
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Speaker 2: totally happy.
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Speaker 4: Great, Ryan, I can't think of anything great that's better
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Speaker 4: than that. So yeah, yeah, Ryan.
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Speaker 1: If you're if you're in the mood for it, next
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Speaker 1: time you're over. And the litter robot is a cycling
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Speaker 1: you can just scoop something out of there and give
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Speaker 1: it a bite.
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Speaker 4: We should record it.
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Speaker 1: Refall what is your painful mango advice?
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Speaker 2: So I also I'm going I'm going to quotes, and
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Speaker 2: I have a quote from the beginning. I'm not sure
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Speaker 2: we kind of never recovered this initial moment where the
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Speaker 2: Marbles actually have some sort of drop interview with potential
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Speaker 2: spies on the Vine. But in one of those interviews
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Speaker 2: there was this quote, you can eat ship. For all
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Speaker 2: I care is sandstone. There are two kinds of people,
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Speaker 2: people like me and assholes.
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Speaker 1: If nobody was going to say that, I was going
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Speaker 1: to bring that up. So thank you Fall That's a
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Speaker 1: perfect to end this episode. That exactly is that so
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Speaker 1: still true today? Still true today, is still true in life,
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Speaker 1: and very fittingly, the little robot is going off, so as.
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Speaker 4: My cats get a bite.
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Speaker 1: They participate in the theme. They're pooping in the background.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Katz. We'll go to the next film of
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Speaker 1: the Trash trilogy. Sorry, and we'll catch you on the
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Speaker 1: flip