Latest / The Art of Costume Podcast / The Lost Boys

Transcript

The Lost Boys · The Art of Costume Podcast

0:06
Hello and welcome to the Arctic Costume Podcast.
0:07
I'm Elizabeth Joy Glass. And I am a man seeking eternal
0:11
life. Spencer Williams.
0:14
Hello, Spencer. Are you sure about that?
0:17
I'm not sure I've been catching up on all of our spooky season
0:21
episodes, and maybe the eternal life isn't all that's cracked up
0:25
to. Be OK so this is my thing like
0:29
with vampire month sexy vampire month as our spooky.
0:34
Glamorous hot vampire month. As our spooky season theme, I've
0:39
been reflecting a lot 'cause, you know, sexy vampires was
0:43
totally a thing when we were growing up and like, I would
0:48
totally have to be a like Vampire Diaries vampire.
0:54
I can't give up food. You tell me I have to walk this
0:58
earth for eternity, but I can't have a cheeseburger.
1:03
Like no thank you. That's.
1:06
True. I don't know.
1:07
But I mean, there's so many different types.
1:09
I mean, today we're talking about, well, I should say today
1:11
we're talking about the Lost Boys.
1:13
You have like, cool punk riding motorcycle vampires.
1:17
And then in our upcoming episodes, they could eat.
1:20
Yeah, they, the the Lost Boys vampires have a good time.
1:23
And then you have. Yeah.
1:25
Well, Interview with the Vampire, they're, you know, hot
1:29
and they got to live through history.
1:31
And then, yeah, then we have our other two films, which we'll
1:34
I'll save those for later. But yeah, today we're talking
1:38
about The Lost Boys. I am so excited to talk about
1:41
this film. It's, it's a good one.
1:43
It's wild. Honestly, all four of our
1:45
episodes this month are absolutely batshit.
1:48
Oh, they're off the wall. Every single one of them.
1:53
And The Lost Boys definitely is definitely that.
1:57
I, I watched it for the first time this week and I was just
2:01
like, OK, OK, what? Well, I was very excited about
2:08
it because I feel like as two people that talk about costume
2:12
design all the time, I feel like we've referenced the Lost Boys,
2:16
or at least costume designers have referenced the Lost Boys.
2:19
Yeah, many, many times. Because it really is like a
2:22
cultural touch point in terms of that 80s punk rock, goth, you
2:29
know, style. So I'm very excited to get into
2:31
it. Of course, in our annual spooky
2:35
season tradition, I have been sick for the past two weeks.
2:38
So I have my cool deep voice. I don't know if you noticed you
2:41
always. Start off sick.
2:43
You always start off sick. Every spooky season it's like my
2:47
thing. I think it's 'cause like you're,
2:49
do your allergies start to like set, set in the fall allergies
2:53
and if they just like take you out for a week or two
2:55
beforehand. I mean, at this point, ask the
2:58
costume nerd, they probably know better than I do tracking my
3:01
allergies because I swear I saw Daniel last night who happens to
3:04
be in town and I was like, yeah, here I am again.
3:07
Been feeling under the weather right before we record all of
3:10
our spooky season episodes. But nonetheless, I'm feeling
3:14
better. I just sound cool and rugged.
3:17
So I'm excited to get to the Lost Boys.
3:20
So let's get into it. And you know, before I give a
3:23
summary, Elizabeth and I are talking behind the scenes and we
3:26
feel like to give some more context to all of our episodes.
3:30
It might be important to kind of dive deeper into our directors
3:34
as well as the costume designers because it's a much needed
3:38
context when we talk about some of these films like The Lost
3:41
Boys or some of our other vampire films and TV series will
3:46
be getting into this month. So The Lost Boys was directed by
3:50
1. Joel Schumacher, which we have
3:53
mentioned before on this podcast.
3:54
Of course, he's known for his notable work on Elmo's Fire,
3:59
Batman Forever and Batman and Robin, which I will just say now
4:02
I would like to do a Batman and Robin episode.
4:05
And I know. The next season, it is way too
4:08
much fun. Come on you, you said Elizabeth
4:11
sent me ATV show the other day and said we're doing this next
4:15
season. So I'm just saying I would like
4:18
to have. I know, I know.
4:20
And also Joel Schumacher directed the family of the
4:23
Opera, for which we have an episode for.
4:25
Yeah. So good fun.
4:27
Now let's get into the summary. I'll get back to Joel Schumacher
4:30
in a little bit. When I recently divorced, mother
4:33
and her two teenage boys moved to a coastal town to stay with
4:36
her father. It doesn't take long for the
4:38
brothers to realize the area is a haven for something much more
4:42
sinister than party going surfers, and that is the Lost
4:47
Boys. Spoiler, it's party going
4:49
vampires. Yeah.
4:51
Yeah, it's party going vampires. And let's meet our costume
4:56
designer Susan Becker. You will know her work from
5:01
Saint Elmo's Fire, Days of Thunder, Flatliners, Father of
5:05
the Bride, and True Romance. Saint Elmo's Fire being, you
5:10
know, one of Joel Schumacher's films.
5:13
And as I mentioned earlier, we've talked about Joel
5:16
Schumacher on the podcast before actually going all the way back
5:19
to one of the very first episodes of the Art of Costume
5:23
podcast, back then called The Art of Costume Blog Cast, Ha ha.
5:29
As you'll remember that Joel Schumacher was actually a
5:32
costume designer slash fashion designer who worked with one Roy
5:36
Halston. So we talked about him quite a
5:38
little bit on our Halston episodes.
5:40
I think it's like episode 3 of our podcast.
5:44
So early 'cause I think that was, was that also the first
5:46
interview? Very first interview with
5:49
Jerriana San Juan, the costume designer.
5:51
So I think we need a little context about the director.
5:55
Like I said, Joel Schumacher came from a world of fashion and
5:58
costume design. I think this is important to
6:01
understanding the Lost Boys because of course, as you can
6:04
all imagine, there's not a ton of behind the costume facts
6:08
about the Lost Boys because it just wasn't really documented.
6:12
There's some. From the 80s.
6:13
Yeah, but not a lot. Joel Schumacher studied first at
6:18
the Fashion Institute of Technology and later graduate
6:21
from Parsons School Design in 1965.
6:24
In early 70s, he's working in Hollywood as a costume desire,
6:27
creating wardrobes for films like Play It As It Lays, The
6:31
Last of Sheila, where he dressed stars like Diane Cannon, Joan
6:34
Hackett and Raquel Welch, Woody Allen's film Sleeper and Paul
6:38
Mazursky's Bloom and Love. Oh man.
6:42
Schumacher also worked on theatre projects designed for
6:44
productions like The Time of the Cuckoo, The Prisoner of 2nd Ave.
6:48
and Interiors. And like I said, around that
6:51
time he also collaborated briefly with Halston.
6:54
So I think that's really important as we get into The
6:56
Lost Boys because while we don't have too many costume facts from
7:01
Susan Becker or Joel Schumacher was very evident to me as you
7:05
watch the film, is that Joel Schumacher really approached
7:08
this film with an eye. I mean he really brought his
7:11
inspirations, his love for fashion, his love for
7:15
rock'n'roll and punk and being rebellious and anti
7:18
establishment. All of that really comes to a
7:22
head in The Lost Boys. So while he was not the costume
7:26
designer of this film, you know damn well that he had something
7:29
to say about how this world of it's not it's not Santa Cruz.
7:35
What is it called? Santa, Santa something.
7:37
It's this world. He really is.
7:40
He has his touch on it. That's all I'll say.
7:43
I almost said Santa Barbara. I was like, no, that's
7:46
absolutely incorrect. But I will remember as we take
7:49
this little break, and I will go ahead to the interwebs and let
7:52
you know on the other side of this break and we will talk
7:54
about the costumes of the Lost Boys.
8:01
Hi, I'm Dan who does all the magic behind the scenes.
8:04
I wanted to say thank you. And if you want to support the
8:07
show even farther, go to tpublic.com/user slash the Art
8:13
of Costume where you can buy a couple variations of our logo on
8:17
T-shirts, mugs and stickers. Also, be sure to leave a like
8:22
comment and subscribe. And if you're an audio listener,
8:25
leave us a five star review on Apple Podcast.
8:28
Now back to the show. Hi, I'm Dan, who does all the
8:41
magic behind the scenes. I wanted to say thank you and if
8:45
you want to support the show even farther, head over to the
8:47
Art of costume.com/pot Store where you could buy a couple
8:51
variations of our logo on T-shirts, mugs and stickers.
8:57
Also, be sure to leave a like comment and subscribe.
9:00
And if you're an audio listener, leave us a Five Star review and
9:03
Apple podcast. Now back to the show.
9:11
Spencer, Are you ready to head to Santa Carla, to just the most
9:17
beautiful beachside town you've ever seen?
9:20
Like nothing good ever happens in Santa Cruz.
9:23
Adjacent fictional, you know, beaches like this.
9:27
Santa Carla is definitely not a place you want to be hanging
9:30
out. I think they even say there's a
9:31
pretty high murder rate, right? Yeah, it's it's they say it's
9:35
like the number one murder. It's like the number one Myrtle
9:38
capital of the world or. Something something like that.
9:43
But as we get started, I I just want to start with the opening
9:47
opening scene on the carousel and of course, just seeing the
9:51
people of this fictional town to the song People are strange, a
9:57
cover of the doors song. It's incredible because you
10:01
really just, you automatically, you know what this film is
10:03
basically about and just looking at the people and understand
10:07
where they are and what kind of town this is just based from.
10:11
Looking at the costumes, honestly.
10:13
Yeah, they really set up the scene.
10:17
It's like, OK, this is not the best place.
10:22
It's, you know, and like mostly I think it's the vampires not
10:27
making it a good place. And I just think it's so funny
10:31
that their mom's like, this is going to be great.
10:33
Our new lives where I grew up. The sweetest lady ever.
10:39
It's like, yeah, this is going to be great.
10:41
Yeah, no. When he says like Oh my parents
10:44
were ex hippies, I was like oh that tracks.
10:47
OK, just half of my torso is just not going to be seen in
10:50
this episode. Yeah, I noticed that.
10:52
It's OK. We're still not back in this set
10:54
yet. We're having some lighting
10:56
issues. So for some of our episodes
10:58
you'll see us there and some of us you won't.
11:00
And I guess some of our episodes you'll see Elizabeth and
11:03
sometimes you won't. She's just a floating head this
11:05
episode. Very spooky.
11:07
Yeah, in in theme, in theme. But what I think I love most
11:13
about this opening scene, it's just seeing like almost every
11:20
fashion trend of the 80s, you got like your punk rock 90s
11:25
grunge is about to hit it. And you see like all these
11:31
different, especially like, you know, alternative style people
11:37
interspersed with just the most 80s vacation, like the visors
11:45
and like the little swimsuits. And I'm like all the vacationing
11:49
tourists amongst what are honestly like a lot of cool
11:53
looking people. Yeah, I know.
11:55
It's a great place. I wrote them.
11:57
The fashion choices emphasize rebellious, anti establishment
12:01
look that was just seeing from typicals 80s styles blended with
12:04
like 80s mall culture with like the punk and golf styles.
12:08
So it's kind of interesting to see and we'll talk about this
12:11
with one of our main characters later.
12:14
But it's like you see like the people that are kind of
12:16
afflicted by this town and which is why the vampires blend in so
12:20
well. And you see the people there
12:21
that obviously are like tourists, the very colorful
12:23
people, the people that are there, you know, they're at
12:26
Santa. They love this beach town and
12:28
they're very happy. And just kind of the the anti
12:33
establishment rebellious look just kind of feeds off of it and
12:37
slowly pulls them into the dark crevices of this town.
12:43
Yeah, it's it's very exciting. I also just want to mention just
12:46
that song being a cover of, you know, from the Doors.
12:49
Jim Morrison is really like a recurring theme in The Doors in
12:54
this film. But let's talk about obviously
13:00
why we're all here. Our Lost Boys, which, you know,
13:04
the vampires, of course, who we love.
13:08
I found this very interesting. So The Lost Boys was inspired by
13:11
the concept of JM Berry's Peter Pan and its titular Lost Boys,
13:17
which of course are the interesting characters in the
13:20
cartoon. Or a bunch of children.
13:22
I'm not a Peter Pan fan. I've been pretty clear about
13:25
that throughout my life, so I find Peter Fan would be cringing
13:28
every way. So actually The Lost Boys is my
13:30
favorite iteration of the story. In ways I mean.
13:36
I think it's the logical conclusion if the Lost Boys ever
13:40
leave Neverland and grow up. Yeah, so essentially, I mean, so
13:45
the film transforms this idea into a darker teen vampire
13:49
narrative where the Lost boys remain eternally young and
13:52
rebellious, mirroring the desire to avoid the pains of growing
13:56
up. The film's Co writer James
13:58
Jeremius was struck by Anne Rice's novel Interview with the
14:02
Vampire as well. And this idea of eternal
14:05
childhood, which can be another theme for the rest of our month
14:08
as well. Yeah.
14:10
And Rice, honestly. So combine these two together,
14:14
this idea from Peter Pan and Interview of the Vampire, we
14:17
have the child, the Lost Boys with the film by Joel
14:21
Schumacher. Yeah.
14:24
I mean, it's, it's a fascinating way to look at it because
14:27
originally they approached Joel Schumacher with this like child
14:30
like story and he got a hold of it and he was like, well, that's
14:34
not exactly. Have you had Interview with the
14:37
Vampire? Yeah, So with that, we have a
14:44
quote from costume designer Susan Becker from the website
14:48
Defunct. She said my view of this film
14:51
and the story from the very start was that these kids were
14:54
like homeless kids banded together like creating their own
14:57
family, but no one, no one was taking care of them, et cetera,
15:00
et cetera. Lost boys living in a coastal
15:03
town almost like. So it's really is a simple
15:07
concept. These are people from different
15:09
places, different parts of the world coming together and
15:13
creating their own family, which is very similar to Interview
15:17
with the Vampire, Peter Pan, The Lost Boys.
15:20
And that is essentially the idea of the Lost Boys.
15:23
So which is why, that being said, each of these characters
15:27
really do kind of have like their own personality in their
15:30
clothing, which will come to find out.
15:32
The title, I was like, OK, Peter Pan, Lost Boys, all right.
15:36
And watching it, you're like, OK, especially towards the end.
15:40
But to know that it was directly inspired by Peter Pan?
15:43
That's wild. Yeah, I actually didn't put it
15:46
together until I was doing research for this episode.
15:49
I was like, Oh yeah, that is what they're called.
15:52
So let's talk about our vampires.
15:55
Obviously a very different type of vampire that we're used to
15:58
seeing, especially at this point in 1987.
16:02
You know, on this podcast, we've talked constantly about like,
16:05
Bram Stoker's Dracula and this, you know, centuries old vampire
16:10
and long robes, you know, trailing castles and
16:14
candelabras. But these are gothic fantasies.
16:18
Yeah, our gothic fantasies, Crimson Peak.
16:21
I mean, we could go on and on about like trains and whatnot.
16:24
These vampires are essentially supposed to be the young and
16:27
sexy, you know, teen vampire that was so cool.
16:32
They, we don't even know how old they are.
16:34
They might not be centuries old at all.
16:36
They're just cool, you know, Santa Cruz kids are now vampires
16:41
and I think that really helps. The costumes really help cement
16:45
that. Especially inspired by all these
16:48
punk rock style icons and rock'n'roll icons like Jim
16:52
Morrison. So I figured we'd kind of go
16:54
through each of these vampires and look at their costumes and
17:00
and there was a according to prop store, I believe actually
17:05
quite a few of these costumes were sold a couple of years ago.
17:10
I don't remember how much, but it was quite a bit as you can
17:13
imagine. So we have these brilliant
17:17
images, which if you're watching us on YouTube, you'll get to see
17:20
close-ups of some of the garments each actually each of
17:24
the vampires main principal costumes that we see.
17:28
So they're. Jackets.
17:30
They're jackets, which are basically their own characters
17:33
in this film. Yeah, and I love Dwayne's like
17:37
Jaguar jacket. Yeah, it's so cool.
17:42
Billy Worth, who plays Dwayne, he has the long black hair and
17:48
his leather jacket, you know, it's nothing in terms of
17:51
construction. It's just like a aged, well
17:54
leather jacket. Kind of reminds me of like the
17:56
Indiana Jones one we were just talking about in our previous
17:59
episode. But has this painted on or
18:02
airbrushed Jaguar all down the right arm?
18:06
I think it's airbrushed and it looks like an inlay at certain
18:12
parts. You can see, like on the the
18:14
sleeve, you can kind of see the jagged edge of the leather where
18:19
it's been cut. And I think that's just so cool
18:22
and clever and just like a great detail you can only see when
18:28
you're paying attention. Yeah, and actually look at close
18:31
Art 2, looking at his necklace in his earrings where it looks
18:35
like teeth of some kind. He does kind of have like a
18:37
beast like feel to him. And he looks very wild.
18:43
Very kind of, I don't want to say caveman, but like, I mean
18:48
like it's like a 1980s caveman look, honestly.
18:52
Yeah, I I think he was watching George of the Jungle a lot
18:59
maybe. That checks out, honestly, But
19:04
probably one of the most wild jackets we've ever seen on this
19:08
podcast happens to be on Marco, played by Alex Winter.
19:12
I want this. I want this jacket.
19:16
I love this jacket. It's insane.
19:21
For those who are just listening, we're talking about
19:23
the one that that has just all sorts of art, patches, things
19:28
hanging off of it, frayed edges. I think it's actually looking
19:32
at, I think it's a denim jacket. Oh, it's it's absolutely a denim
19:36
jacket. You can see how it frays at the
19:38
bottom. He's kind of like covered.
19:41
Well, you can actually get them that way.
19:42
We're like the buttons are covered on the jacket, but you
19:46
can see it in this picture, like the button hole.
19:50
But yeah, it's just like it's a denim jacket that he's just put
19:53
appliques and like painted on and just put like all this stuff
20:00
over. And it's so cool.
20:02
And like he was my favorite looking of the vampires,
20:05
honestly. Like I had like the most random
20:11
intrusive thought when I was watching this though.
20:14
I was like, Oh my gosh, if they had made Twilight in the 80s,
20:19
this man would be Jasper. Yeah, that's that's fair.
20:24
But he's just so cool looking. I I don't think he ever says
20:27
anything, but he was my favorite.
20:31
Yeah, that's true. I I don't really remember his
20:34
roles except just every time I saw him, I was just kind of
20:37
struck by his jacket. I also like it because it kind
20:40
of reminds me, you know, this is a coastal town.
20:43
It reminds me of, like, art you would see kind of lining
20:46
beaches, honestly, if you were to go to, like, a pier or a
20:49
farmer's market. Like, just a style of, like, it
20:52
almost looks like Princess Leia on his back.
20:55
I don't know who this woman actually is supposed to be, but
20:57
the art style to me just feels almost kind of like, you know,
21:01
the multimedia. Yeah.
21:03
A little graffiti, be almost, maybe.
21:06
I don't know. It's it's a work of art.
21:08
It's wild. I don't know how you would
21:10
explain this jacket to anyone. Like if I ever had the money and
21:16
this came back on the market, I don't care how much it is like
21:21
I'm I'm buying it. The fringe on the top left.
21:25
You know what it reminded me of? Harley Quinn's jacket from Birds
21:30
of Prey. Like it's that.
21:31
Wild. I love it.
21:32
I also almost saw it as like one of those little like military,
21:36
like epileps, 'cause he's kind of like the right hand man even
21:40
though he's taken out first, but it.
21:44
Happened. That's how it goes.
21:46
True, they knew which one to go for first.
21:50
I think my favorite vampire of If I were to be any of them, I
21:54
think I would want to be Paul, played by Brooke Mccarter.
21:57
I can see that. Yeah, he's just, he's a little
22:00
bit more subtle. He has.
22:02
We have this cool have like black trench coat.
22:06
Yeah, almost. It almost reminds me a little
22:09
bit, like a war coat a little bit.
22:11
A little bit. It's very, very early British
22:15
punk. I feel like, you know, the first
22:18
two we talked about, they're very American punk.
22:21
This is very early British punk, almost like Cruella.
22:26
With the Bobby pins on the left side.
22:31
I don't know what happened to the aging of the lapel in this
22:34
photo. It didn't look like that to me
22:36
in at the actual film, but I love that metal piece though.
22:41
That's Bobby pinned on the right side as well.
22:43
It also to me, like you said about our last vampire, does
22:47
kind of give like a military feel as well a little bit too.
22:50
Like they're kind of giving rank to each other as their little
22:53
vampire cult, which is quite sweet.
22:56
It almost looks like because I'm looking at the picture and it
22:58
almost looks like they're what there was like a zipper or
23:02
something on this this tan side that has or a chain that has
23:07
since disappeared. Yeah, probably.
23:10
I'm sure these, you know, they're, they've been auctioned
23:13
off now, but before, I have a feeling these costumes weren't
23:15
exactly taken care of all the time.
23:19
I would not be shocked if they were not.
23:23
Yeah. But then we have our our leader,
23:26
which I also feel like kind of leads it to that British punk
23:30
you were just talking about. We have Kiefer Sutherland, who
23:34
plays David. What what a great character.
23:39
I mean, he's, he's the guy. He is the guy.
23:42
He was like so simple but like that's totally what made him
23:46
stand out as the leader compared to the rest of them.
23:50
Like, yeah, I think it is because he is just so kind of.
23:54
Thing. It's not even simple.
23:56
It is just a very minimal list, especially when you're talking
23:59
about like compared to Marco, who had, who's the opposite of
24:02
minimalist. David really is the minimalist.
24:06
And yeah, you're right, it is kind of menacing because he's
24:09
just black, but his hair doesn't love the talking, if we're being
24:13
honest. Yeah, the spike, the bleach
24:16
blonde mullet. Yeah.
24:18
Do they all have mullets or is it just him and Marco?
24:22
It's just him and Marco. The others just have, like, that
24:25
very typical 80s hair band, long hair.
24:28
Yeah. Which I mean, I was really born
24:31
in the wrong era because this, this would have been me,
24:34
Elizabeth. OK, Spencer.
24:37
I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying that's that's what I
24:40
want for myself. OK, cool.
24:42
I mean, yeah, absolutely. I don't think I could pull off a
24:46
beach blonde mullet though. No, I don't think you can.
24:49
You were supposed to disagree with me.
24:51
Spencer, have you seen how pale each of us are?
24:55
OK. I don't think either of us can
24:58
pull that off. So going forward, we'll leave
25:05
our vampires for a little bit. Let's talk about some of our
25:08
other main characters, Michael and Sam.
25:11
I was reading this article by Niall Flynn called how cult film
25:16
The Lost Boys defined bad boy style.
25:19
And it kind of came down to one element which you could kind of
25:23
see in Michael, which I I just absolutely loved because it
25:27
really is a touchstone that is very, very relevant nowadays in
25:31
fashion. It is the one solo dangly
25:34
earring which really just spoke bad voice style.
25:38
And it is referenced in a film as like, like that one earring
25:42
really is a moment in transition for Michael as he starts to get
25:46
into his new vampiric state. Niall Flynn said it wasn't till
25:52
the 80s that modern Western society really got a hold of
25:56
them being earrings spearheaded by British musicians such as
25:59
George Michael, which, you know, Jason Patrick's character is
26:03
named Michael as well. When Michael starts to wear one,
26:06
which incidentally, it represents A watershed moment in
26:08
his metamorphosis from human to vampire.
26:11
Combined with a quick temper and proclivity for sleeping all day.
26:14
The earrings symbolize adolescent revolt, much as in
26:18
the Lost Boys adolescent revolt symbol the social deviation of
26:22
vampirism. So I mean that that earring is
26:27
carrying a lot of water for Jason Patrick's character
26:31
Michael, because, you know, he does kind of have that like
26:34
typical 80s, you know, kind of new kid to the town, but then
26:40
throwing a leather jacket, some sunglasses and the dangly
26:44
earring, whole new guy. And I think it's so funny
26:48
because he has like the very I, I, I understand Michael is
26:53
supposed to be, I was assuming a high schooler going into his
26:56
senior year, right? Despite the fact that he looks
26:59
28. Yeah.
27:02
He he kind of does. You could definitely get drinks
27:05
with Jason Patrick at this moment, I'm sure.
27:08
Oh, yeah, there were tires at the in the film where I was
27:12
like, wait, is this just like a much older brother who's just
27:16
like, has decided to like, stay with his mom and little brother
27:20
just, you know, as moral support?
27:24
And then the mom is like, when school gets back in session,
27:27
things are going to change. And I was like, no, no, he's
27:29
supposed to be a high school. He he looks great.
27:32
People age differently. Oh he looks so good.
27:35
He is fine in this movie, I just didn't buy that he was in high
27:41
school but I digress. He has that very like the all
27:50
American working man look of the plain white tee, leather jacket,
27:58
jeans and boots. And like, he doesn't really kind
28:04
of like, until he gets that earring, aside from his
28:07
motorcycle, I'm like, this doesn't strike me as a kid that,
28:10
like, would be attracted to, you know, being the cool kid.
28:14
He just seemed to be like, I just want to live my life and
28:18
ride my motorcycle. Goodbye.
28:22
Unlike his. I was going to say unlike his
28:25
brother who was just like on the edge of being like a prep a
28:31
preppy in the 80s. He really is like the ray of
28:36
sunshine. We're talking about Corey Heim,
28:38
who plays Sam, one of Corey Heim's many popular roles.
28:44
Yeah, he is. Like, he's the complete opposite
28:47
of his brother Michael, or really any of the vampires as
28:50
well, because he is very colorful, very color blocked.
28:54
All of his 80 pattern 80s patterns are clashing together.
28:58
It is fantastic. And it just kind of shows to me
29:02
like he, you know, we talked about the beginning, how the
29:05
colorful people of this town kind of feel like the fish out
29:08
of water a little bit compared to the rest of this town that's,
29:11
you know, gone deep into, you know, adolescent revolt.
29:16
So to me, it's just like, this is their way of saying like he
29:19
came to this town and he's just feeling kind of like trying to
29:23
find his place and he doesn't fit in.
29:25
He's trying to, but he just loves his comic books and just
29:28
wants to, you know, he's out of fun close to town.
29:31
He's having fun. So he's so funny, though, in
29:35
terms of his costumes. Susan Becker went off with
29:38
these. Costumes.
29:39
No, I know. Well, I was also thinking
29:42
because like Michael talks about how like, you know, his parents
29:45
were ex exhibits. He's like, Oh yeah, my name was
29:47
almost Moonbeam. I'm like, that's such a hippie
29:51
thing to name your child. And it almost feels like Sam is
29:55
really going in the other direction from his parents with
29:58
that. Almost like preppy.
30:01
Like would not be shocked to see him walking around the mall in
30:05
the 80s. Oh.
30:06
Totally. This is a mall's kid.
30:08
Mall kid hand down. Yeah, he's trying to make him
30:12
his own personality outside of like, not just his parents, but
30:15
I think also his brother. For sure.
30:19
I also just want to, I quickly, I mentioned this earlier, but I
30:22
want to come back to this also talking about like just
30:24
aesthetic of the town and Joel Schumacher.
30:28
Joel Schumacher, the director was a big Jim Morrison fan and
30:31
was like made a conscious choice to kind of incorporate his style
30:35
into the film's aesthetics. And it was kind of like a direct
30:37
influence for a lot of these characters, just looking at, you
30:41
know, this black and white photo we have of Jim Morrison.
30:43
And of course, his photo makes it onto a huge poster in the
30:47
vampire layer as well. Too that you see for like 5
30:50
minutes. Yeah, it's just there, which I
30:55
get it. I have a big Stevie Nicks photo
30:57
like this in my living rooms. You do.
31:00
So some other characters are just integral to the heart of
31:04
the Lost Boys are of course the Frog Brothers, which I have come
31:10
back to these characters so many times and research for a lot of
31:14
our episodes. I was so happy because so many
31:17
like of these movies, it's like, oh, the nerdy kids like know
31:21
what to do and like they're they're like, you know, ah,
31:25
let's go for it, let's go for it.
31:26
And then like, push comes to shove, like they don't do
31:29
anything or they run away. I liked that the Frog brothers
31:32
were like, yeah, we know what to do.
31:35
They get to it. OK, They're scared, but they're
31:37
still, like, following through. They're still like, no, we can
31:40
do this. We know what to do.
31:42
And I was just like, man, who raised these kids?
31:44
It's that rare moment where us as nerds are finally, you know,
31:49
useful, useful. And we're in charge of
31:51
something. We know how to kill vampires
31:53
because we have 1000. You and I, if all of a sudden
31:56
people were like, we're looking for an expert who needs to
31:58
understand what vampires wear and, you know, how to interact
32:02
with them, we'd be like, hey, we have multiple podcast episodes.
32:06
And, you know, if we write, yeah, this is that's what's
32:11
happening to the Frog Brothers. So it's kind of our dream actors
32:16
Corey Feldman and Jameson Newlander played the Frog
32:19
brothers, Edgar Frog and Alan Frog.
32:23
And I, I saw this come up and research a couple times and then
32:26
I in that documentary, Joel Schumacher kind of said it was
32:31
true essentially was that Corey and Jameson were essentially
32:35
told to basically binge Sylvester Stallone, you know,
32:39
Rambo movies, but then also like really take inspiration from
32:43
commandos, military men, GI Joe, because these two frog brothers,
32:49
they're warriors inside. Of them Oh yeah I was gonna I
32:53
was gonna say I like they must love Rambo 'cause it's it's
32:58
written all over like their wardrobe that the bandana the.
33:06
With the brain, I feel like Alan Frog kind of looks like
33:11
Sylvester Stallone in this. Moment a little bit, yeah.
33:15
It's really weird. I love it.
33:17
I obviously love these two actors too, and just like such
33:21
like 80s icons. And yeah, I've referenced these
33:26
Frog Brother costumes so many times.
33:29
If you go back to one of our previous episodes when we had
33:32
Amy Paris on to talk about the Stranger Things, I mean, how
33:35
influential The Lost Boys was on films like or series like
33:40
Stranger Things. Of course, like it to this day
33:43
the Lost Boys is referenced. And of course, when they made
33:47
this film, no one knew that was going to be the case, of course.
33:50
So definition of a cult classic. One other character we have to
33:55
talk about is of course, star played by Jamie Gertz, who is
34:00
absolutely stunning. I beautiful.
34:04
I understand why Michael falls. He, I mean he crashes out in
34:08
like day one of living in this town.
34:10
Just seeing her at that concert, which that concert was wild, by
34:14
the way. Oh my gosh, the sexy saxophone
34:17
player on the. And the oiled up man.
34:20
And I was like, that was one of those moments.
34:23
I was like, I don't know what we're watching, but I'm not
34:27
hating it. Yeah, you see, Star, she wears
34:33
the same costume pretty much throughout.
34:36
She does put on a jacket at some point, which again, has a very
34:39
military feel to it. Or think we're putting a thread
34:42
together. I felt like that was almost her
34:44
camouflage to be in with, you know, the Lost Boys was was that
34:50
jacket. Definitely.
34:52
And you kind of really, she kind of fits in being like the
34:56
bohemian type in this town with beads, the shawl, which I mean,
35:01
that is an incredible shawl. It it's just she kind of gives
35:06
like, you know, what I was thinking about as driving home
35:09
earlier, It's like when you go to like these beach towns and
35:11
you have like all these attractions.
35:13
Santa Cruz, of course, like you go to like the fortune tellers
35:17
attraction and you pay like 20 bucks.
35:19
That's kind of what I think of when I think of Star a little
35:22
bit. Surprisingly, not a lot of
35:24
information on said costume, which is why it's because she's
35:28
like one of the only two women in this film essentially.
35:33
But I will say you could all hit up our friend Natalie Lucia,
35:36
who's been on the podcast before.
35:38
She's done a great cosplay and has reached out to the costume
35:41
designer to talk about said costume.
35:45
So she's like a Lost Ways expert.
35:47
So check out her Instagram, we'll we'll link it below.
35:52
We have one more character and I wasn't going to include her, but
35:55
I decided I will because to me she just gives such strong
35:59
Elizabeth energy. And talking about Lisa, you
36:04
played by Dianne Wiest. Why are you always right?
36:09
This is you. Yeah, that's me if I was a
36:11
hippie back in the day. Yeah, their mom is so sweet.
36:15
I love her. Yeah, she is.
36:18
And she's just I, she's like, so like casually cool.
36:22
Like she's definitely their mom. But I'm like, Oh yeah, you were
36:25
ex hippie because you were letting these kids do almost
36:28
whatever they want. Yeah, she's like, do whatever
36:30
you want. I'm trying to be dating.
36:32
She starts dating like very. Vampire.
36:35
Yeah, she starts dating pretty quickly, but she had coastal
36:40
kind of mother vibes though. Very comfortable, very plush.
36:44
Oh yeah, love her sweaters. She's lots of nits.
36:49
She's the coastal grandma before you become a grandma like.
36:53
Yeah, she's like, she's Pokémon evolution.
36:57
Yeah. Yeah, I just, I love Diane Weiss
37:03
at weest and I just, you know, I was this right before or right
37:08
after Edward Scissorhands. Like she's just, she's really
37:11
just killing. She's at this.
37:13
Moment. So yeah, this like, this whole
37:16
movie, especially like, I loved her relationship with her dad
37:20
and like, at the end when like everything's revealed and she's
37:23
just like, what? Like, hold on.
37:29
What did we get into? But the grandpa like, drives
37:35
through his own home 'cause he sees what's happening.
37:38
And in my head, I'm like, how did this grandpa like know what
37:43
was going on? And then he he walks to the
37:47
fridge, takes out a cola and is like, the only thing I don't
37:50
like about Santa Carla is all the damn vampires.
37:54
And that's how the movie ends. And like, everyone's face is
37:57
like, you knew there were vampires here and you didn't say
38:00
shit. Like, is this common knowledge?
38:03
Why didn't the mom know and warm warn her children?
38:07
Like what? It's a wild town, Santa Carla.
38:14
Anyway, that was what I texted you was the movie just ended and
38:17
I was like what the fuck? And by the way, for all four of
38:22
our episodes this month, we have had a text exchange for each one
38:25
saying, wow, that was wow, Yeah. Yeah.
38:29
And that brings us to the end of the Lost Boys, which was just so
38:33
much fun. I had fun.
38:36
I'm glad we did this. I was a little nervous to do The
38:38
Lost Boys, but yeah, I think it paid off.
38:41
I agree. I agree.
38:44
I I really wasn't sure about it, but you were like, no, like it's
38:49
good. Like all dude.
38:50
Spencer did like all the research.
38:52
I was like OK if you can figure it out like.
38:54
Go for it. Yeah, I had.
38:56
Such a good time. It's just really about breaking
38:59
down as, like I said, this movie and and like there might not be
39:03
a lot of costume facts, but if you just put it on context, I
39:06
think you could read a lot of the stories that are like in
39:09
between the lines. And that's what we love when we
39:12
do this podcast. So with that, I think we should
39:16
give it the old Stitch rating as we say.
39:21
I think this is definitely like a 3.5 stitches for me.
39:28
Like it's really holding together visually.
39:32
Everything was on point. I'll say.
39:35
Like story wise, I was a little bit like what?
39:40
Huh. Like we'll talk about a movie I
39:43
think was maybe too long this month.
39:47
I think this movie was too short.
39:48
It was it was it? It was a cool 90 minutes.
39:52
Like it went by. If you just need a little fun
39:54
flick to watch this spooky season, Lost Boys is where it
39:57
is. Yeah, and they don't, they don't
40:00
play around either to get right into the vampiring pretty
40:02
quickly. They really do.
40:05
That's what I'm saying he fell in love with star Michael did in
40:07
like the 1st 10 minutes and then the vampires are like well
40:10
that's not cool so. 5 seconds and I really feel this is like
40:16
one of those. Every now and then I'll watch a
40:19
movie from like the 80s or 90s and I'll be like, I wish someone
40:25
would go and make like an HBO miniseries of this.
40:29
That would be fun. Like to see that for the Lost
40:31
Boys. Right.
40:33
Like a really good, a little scandalous HBO miniseries.
40:38
But I will say, if they do do that and whichever costume
40:41
designer ends up doing that, we're sticking to the 80s
40:45
though. I want bullets and leather
40:46
jackets and and denim jackets and all that crazy stuff, don't
40:52
I? Don't make it modern, no.
40:54
Yeah, modern's not cool there, I say.
40:58
No. There's nothing cool about
41:00
modern society right now, so no. Sir, what's your situating?
41:07
I think I'm going to go with like a, you know, 3.5.
41:11
I was like out of three, I don't know, like it's it's a cult
41:14
classic. It's fun, it's campy.
41:17
It's also stupid, but like that's the fun of it.
41:20
I don't know. The costumes are top notch.
41:23
I think the production design is great.
41:26
I think, yeah, like, I don't know, 3.53, it's like it's a
41:31
solid, solid film. There's nothing bad about it.
41:34
It's just also not like I didn't look up to see if it won the
41:38
Oscars either, you know? No, I think we all know who did
41:40
it. Yeah, So I was like, it was,
41:42
yeah, it's good fun. It's something I agree.
41:45
Like, I could just turn this on, listen to the music, you know,
41:48
drink a glass of whiskey or something and just watch some
41:52
good old vampire blood sucking. Just melt.
41:55
Yeah, it just, it's perfect. It's perfect for that.
42:00
But I think we'll have a little bit more fun playing our
42:03
favorite game. Are you ready, Elizabeth?
42:05
I am. Let's do it.
42:08
The one costume to rule them all.
42:16
All right, well, I actually, I thought it was going to be a
42:18
little bit harder, but I think I decided on my one costume rule
42:21
them all. I had to go with the very
42:24
colorful jacket worn by Marco just because, I mean, it's a
42:29
work of art, it's chaotic. It is probably one of the most
42:32
chaotic costumes we've seen on this podcast.
42:35
And for that, you just have to give it credit because it
42:38
really, it really took a lot of swings to some people, it might
42:43
be some misses. And for that I love it for that.
42:45
So it's it's everything, literally it has everything on
42:49
it. It really is.
42:51
It is everything. Marco's whole look is
42:53
everything. That's why I didn't put an image
42:57
for my one costume to roll them all.
42:59
Cuz it is Marco's costume. It is that jacket I saw when you
43:04
were first like, oh Lost Boys. I looked up Lost Boys and I
43:07
recognized like the cover of like all the vampires, like
43:13
standing in a row. Yeah.
43:15
And then Marco, this, this like promo shot of him with the red
43:20
background. I was like, oh, I've seen that
43:22
before. Yeah, it's, it's a wild I, I
43:25
could imagine seeing that photo in a textbook somewhere about, I
43:29
don't know, 1987. I Yeah, yeah.
43:33
If someone told me this was like some like hair band like front
43:38
front man in the 80s I'd believe you.
43:40
Yeah, totally, 100%. And that brings us to the end of
43:45
The Lost Boys. I'm kind of sad it's over
43:48
already, but it was a lot of fun.
43:51
But fortunately for you all, and actually for us too, because I'm
43:55
also very excited. Yes.
43:57
We're in our spooky season and like we do every year, we do an
44:00
episode every week of October. So we got three more vampire
44:05
flicks to get through and the next one I am dying to talk
44:09
about. I'm so excited you finally
44:12
watched. It I'm not done yet, I have one
44:15
more season. Will you tell everyone what we
44:17
are talking about next week? Next week we are watching AMC's
44:23
incredible sexy adaptation of Anne Rice's Interview with the
44:30
Vampire. We're going back to one of our
44:34
favorite stories, an update on our favorite.
44:39
We did an episode for Interview with the Vampire, the movie from
44:44
the 90s, a spooky season or two ago, and we're back with the
44:50
with the TV series The Modern update.
44:53
And I am very excited. I I'm loving it.
44:56
So season 2 was just released on Netflix yesterday.
45:00
So I'm very excited. I got a whole nother season
45:03
watch before next week and it will be done because I love this
45:07
show. I binge through the first season
45:09
very quickly. It is good, it is hot, it is
45:13
sexy, just like our theme says. Yeah, and like the first, 'cause
45:18
I last night I watched the first episode, Oprah again to, you
45:21
know, get, get started on slides and whatnot.
45:24
And I was like, ohh, this is another one.
45:26
They get right into it. Hmm.
45:28
And it's also not afraid to like, lean into it too.
45:32
Like it's, it's pretty gory too, like the blood and whatnot.
45:36
I've had to look away a couple times.
45:39
It's great. We're going to New Orleans for
45:41
this one. It's going to be so much fun.
45:43
And we're talking about seasons one and two.
45:46
By the way, season 3 is not out quite yet, which gives us
45:49
opportunity to just talk about it again in the future, which
45:52
I'm thrilled about. In the meantime, e-mail us at
45:55
theartofcostume@gmail.com. Let's know who your favorite
45:59
vampire was from the lost boys. Why was it David?
46:03
Why was it Marco? Or maybe you were into Sam and
46:05
Michael and you just you're anti vampire.
46:08
And if that's the case, it's gonna be a long month for you.
46:12
Follow us on Instagram at the art of costume pod TikTok at the
46:15
art of costume. And if you have not yet
46:18
subscribed to us on YouTube, so you can see US and our beautiful
46:23
backgrounds and our and us showing pictures of said
46:27
costumes. So you could really just take in
46:30
the full The Art of Costume podcast experience and you could
46:33
see me wear this leather jacket, which is very warm right now.
46:38
Oh, I bet everybody we'll see you next week.