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Take Responsibility for Your Social Media Habits! · The M&M Experience

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  Speaker 1: So how's my buddy? And more importantly, where's my buddy?
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  Speaker 1: Shall we reveal that we're now eleven We're not eleven
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  Speaker 1: hundred miles away today like we often are.
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  Speaker 2: Let's pull the curtain back. I mean, all you know
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  Speaker 2: what can be breaking loose? Prince Andrew can get arrested. Yep,
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  Speaker 2: there's a new paint scheme for Air Force one.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: I mean all the world has fallen apart. And Mark
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  Speaker 2: the she sall b de Mill of talk shows, wanted
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  Speaker 2: to do since I'm down the Hall, said, why don't
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  Speaker 2: I come running in stick my face in the camera
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  Speaker 2: because we're all like, we're only like fifty yards away
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  Speaker 2: from me.
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  Speaker 1: I could be stead you usually it's eleven hundred miles,
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  Speaker 1: or maybe in New York where it's your thirteen hundred miles,
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  Speaker 1: or maybe you're in Greenville, South Carolina, where it's nine
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  Speaker 1: hundred miles. Right now you're literally forty yards away. I
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  Speaker 1: could get up walk in that. We decided that might
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  Speaker 1: not be a great idea. Can we do the second
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  Speaker 1: best thing? Producer Ronda Kay Morland is like outside my
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  Speaker 1: door with her phone. I think she's going to duck
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  Speaker 1: in shoot me on the side of the head. Pardon
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  Speaker 1: that usage, and then and then and run down the
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  Speaker 1: hall and uh and and wait at you so we
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  Speaker 1: can have and she'll send that to me and I
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  Speaker 1: will post it so everyone can witness the spectacle of
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  Speaker 1: what we're actually and.
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  Speaker 2: Let me also and let me also pull back the
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  Speaker 2: curtain so the audience knows the full extent of the
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  Speaker 2: of the glory that is Mark Davis. Here's Mark Davis
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  Speaker 2: in a nutshell. I get a text in the hotel
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  Speaker 2: early this morning. Hey, come see the new Digs.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I said absolutely, I'll get there as soon as I can.
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  Speaker 2: Then he says, Then he texts, it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: very busy in here. Don't come into the studio. I'll
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  Speaker 2: come down to see you. Tom there. It's cecil Be
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  Speaker 2: to mill trying to organize everything. And then you were
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  Speaker 2: worried I was going to come crashing into your brand
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  Speaker 2: new studio. And I want to have time. I want
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  Speaker 2: to have time to give you the hug and show
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  Speaker 2: you the place. And you were read on time. And
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  Speaker 2: then then let's and let's tell everybody I'm here for
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  Speaker 2: a it's really a private event, but there's a group
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  Speaker 2: we called it it's a CEO summit, and you and
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  Speaker 2: I are going to be co hosting a dinner tonight
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  Speaker 2: with these chief executive officers, and earlier today or later today,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna have an event with Donald Trump Junior. So
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna be it's kind of an exclusive, neat event
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  Speaker 2: presented by Salem Media. So this is a quick in
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  Speaker 2: and out to all my friends in the Metroplex. Sorry,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't have time to really because I'm I'm kind
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  Speaker 2: of in and out of here quickly. We got to
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  Speaker 2: start with I almost fell off the couch this morning
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  Speaker 2: doing a little show prep getting ready, and I come
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  Speaker 2: across my buddy Mark Davis describing this weird Tucker Carlson
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  Speaker 2: incident in Israel. And I don't know how many how
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  Speaker 2: much people know about it, but evidently Tucker went over
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  Speaker 2: to Israel, I think to interview Mike Huckabee.
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  Speaker 1: Which is good, well, well, no is it. It didn't
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  Speaker 1: go well. It's a good it's a good idea, but
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  Speaker 1: it didn't go well. It did not go well.
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  Speaker 2: So apparently it went badly because Mike Huckabee, You're not
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  Speaker 2: gonna out out flank Mike Huckabee.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's a.
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  Speaker 2: Smart guy, and he's pro Israel, and I'm sure he's
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  Speaker 2: bristles at what has been perceived as the a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people accusing Tucker and Candae and these folks have
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  Speaker 2: going full anti Israel.
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  Speaker 1: Do I detect your theory that that Tucker and Huckabee
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  Speaker 1: did an interview and it didn't go well for Tucker,
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  Speaker 1: and in an attempt to smother that and maybe not
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  Speaker 1: even release it or blah blah blah, we then get
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  Speaker 1: the full concoction of Tucker's story of being detained at
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  Speaker 1: the airport.
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  Speaker 2: Is that where That's not my theory, That's what I'm
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  Speaker 2: seeing online. That's we're just asking questions. We're just asking questions.
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  Speaker 2: We're just asking questions here. Is it possible that it
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  Speaker 2: went so badly for Tucker that hey, thought, oh what
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  Speaker 2: am I going to do here? Let me stage an
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  Speaker 2: event that says that I was detained by Israeli authorities. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: Israeli authorities and you and I have been in and
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  Speaker 2: out of there, and I've been in and out of
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  Speaker 2: Israel many times. And let me also pull back the
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  Speaker 2: curtain a little bit. When you're a broadcaster from the
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  Speaker 2: United States and you've got a platform and you've got
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  Speaker 2: some prominence, they treat they do treat you differently. Now,
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  Speaker 2: my experience has always been they treat you magnificently. They
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  Speaker 2: have a VIP lounge and they take you off the
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  Speaker 2: plane into the lounge, and when you're leaving the country
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  Speaker 2: you can go into that lounge and they I mean
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  Speaker 2: so they really roll out the red carpet for people
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  Speaker 2: with radio and TV shows and big platforms like Tucker. Well,
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  Speaker 2: that's apparently what they did. They took him into one
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  Speaker 2: of those VIP areas, asked him a few questions. He's
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  Speaker 2: on his way, he reports he was detained and interrogated.
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  Speaker 1: Mistreated by the evil Israelis.
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  Speaker 2: Cashport, passport confiscated. Well, Israel, for its part, is saying
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  Speaker 2: none of that happened. So so anyway, so Mark Davis,
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  Speaker 2: classic Mark Davis, you because you're not exactly vice president
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  Speaker 2: of the Tucker Fan Club. I used to be, but
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's been a while. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what's going on there right. Look, all of the Israel
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  Speaker 2: stuff has turned everything and I want to talk to
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  Speaker 2: you about that for just a moment because in a moment,
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  Speaker 2: because it really has really put everything into a topsy
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  Speaker 2: turvy perspective. I mean it's and that's the common denominator
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  Speaker 2: is support for Israel or lack thereof. And I want
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  Speaker 2: so let's tackle that in just a moment. Okay, but
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  Speaker 2: but anyway, Mark, you you retweeted this story on x
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  Speaker 2: and you called you called Tucker and gave him a moniker.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I can't claim this. I can't claim this.
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  Speaker 1: It's not mine. But go ahead, Nantucket Borot. It's not
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  Speaker 1: a good day for Nantucket. Borot, of course is the
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  Speaker 1: famous you know, Barrett, a complete idiot traveling the world
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  Speaker 1: and experiencing it as a neophyte. And the Nantucket, of
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  Speaker 1: course is sort of the patrician image that took her
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  Speaker 1: seeks to exude. So I don't I wish I knew
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  Speaker 1: who Nantuck? No credit for it.
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  Speaker 2: I I can't do it now. No, I'm gonna say
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  Speaker 2: you get it. I'm just asking questions. It wasn't Mark
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  Speaker 2: the one who came up with that phrase. And can
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  Speaker 2: I tell a quick personal story in North Texas? North
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  Speaker 2: Texas story? I have dear friend. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: mention his name, but he's a pastor and people who
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  Speaker 2: know my history here know my friendship with this pastor,
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  Speaker 2: and he is a wonderful, beloved pastor. And my Denise
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  Speaker 2: and I built a home that we were so proud
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  Speaker 2: of in Keller and we had a little movie theater.
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  Speaker 2: Uh you know, we had one of those home theaters.
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  Speaker 2: And one night we invited the pastor over to watch Borat.
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  Speaker 2: I've never well, I've never seen I've never seen I've
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  Speaker 2: never seen a person laugh so hard in mind.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I was going to say that speaking of things
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  Speaker 1: that either went well or didn't.
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  Speaker 2: He laughed until tears were streaming down here. And anybody
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  Speaker 2: knows him knows how much he loves to laugh. But
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  Speaker 2: if you will laugh, you will laugh. Is that it's
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  Speaker 2: come on face? It isn't that one of the funniest
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  Speaker 2: movies you've ever sad? Absolutely, I mean it said very
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  Speaker 2: very politically incorrect. I mean you one would think maybe
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  Speaker 2: a pastor could be but but he's on en up
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  Speaker 2: type pastor. He's really relatable and he's one of these
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  Speaker 2: wonderful guys. Is a good thing. You'll never forget his laughter.
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  Speaker 2: All right, what else is going on? What's on tap?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let me let me, let me share an expansive
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  Speaker 1: thematic thing here for you for a moment. Are you
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  Speaker 1: aware of this? Mark Zuckerberg on the stand in this trial.
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  Speaker 1: It's about social media. There's a twenty year old woman,
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  Speaker 1: but there are hundreds of cases behind her looking to
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  Speaker 1: sue Zuckerberg, Facebook Meta all this for the terrible things
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  Speaker 1: that have happened to people's social media. I'm no fan
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  Speaker 1: of big tech. Social media is poison and the greatest
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  Speaker 1: thing to happen in our lives. At the same time,
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  Speaker 1: they're positives negatives. What's the difference, you mean personal responsibility.
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  Speaker 1: I'm addicted to something too. It's called the concept of
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  Speaker 1: personal responsibility. If you've got a kid, you know, who
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  Speaker 1: is horribly disturbed because he can't get off of TikTok,
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  Speaker 1: it ain't TikTok's fault. It's you for being a bad parent.
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  Speaker 1: And if you're an adult and all you're doing is
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  Speaker 1: doom scrolling, it is not Instagram's fault. It's your fat
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  Speaker 1: Get the heck off it, put it down, take a walk,
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  Speaker 1: get in some sunshine. Personal responsibility has been lost. Now
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  Speaker 1: are there algorithms and things that these platforms do to
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  Speaker 1: lure us?
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  Speaker 2: In?
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  Speaker 1: One hundred percent? I see them. I feel them. If
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  Speaker 1: I feel it sending me content all the time that
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  Speaker 1: I'm inherently interested in, I'm somehow able to put the
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  Speaker 1: dang thing down and talk to my wife and eat
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  Speaker 1: a meal and read a book and take a walk.
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  Speaker 1: This is making me a little crazy. Now, if countries
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  Speaker 1: and states want to limit this to say, no kids
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  Speaker 1: on social media with firm age restrictions, I'm all about that.
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  Speaker 1: But this notion it was like cigarettes, Mike. It wasn't
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  Speaker 1: Philip Morris's fault that you're hooked on cigarettes. It's people
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  Speaker 1: quit smoking every day. So this is making me a
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  Speaker 1: little crazy. Am I wrong? Well?
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  Speaker 2: Here are two themes that I think are very much
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  Speaker 2: resounding in the zeitgeist this week. In particular, Number one,
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  Speaker 2: I am really intrigued by the government intervention, if you will.
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  Speaker 2: In television program we got the FCC and there was
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  Speaker 2: this whole fake thing about the supposedly fake where the
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  Speaker 2: TELLIFO interview. Well okay, but but then on the other
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  Speaker 2: hand you got Brendan Carson. Well we're going to crack down.
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  Speaker 1: On the view.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, will you stop it with it? Will you stop
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  Speaker 2: it with And in a way I think the subject
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  Speaker 2: you just introduced. We talk about government intervention. What role
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  Speaker 2: does the government play? What role do these social media
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  Speaker 2: companies play? And the other thing that I think resonates
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  Speaker 2: with what we've been talking about all week, is this
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  Speaker 2: all of the Tucker Carlson, Candice Owens shenanigans are all
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  Speaker 2: or the war right now between Meg and Kelly and
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  Speaker 2: your your best friend forever, Chris Cuomo.
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  Speaker 1: Are you seeing those two going on? I am She's
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  Speaker 1: right in torching him a little bit about some of
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  Speaker 1: the nancypot But it's not about right or wrong. It's
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  Speaker 1: about one thing. It's about clicks.
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  Speaker 2: It's about engagement, mark and it's the same thing you're
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  Speaker 2: talking about with social media. These social media content creators,
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  Speaker 2: all they care about is monetizing how many eyeballs they get,
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  Speaker 2: and you can't overstate that, and that's.
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  Speaker 1: What gets and that's what they're posturing and doing these
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  Speaker 1: over the top things and picking these feuds and fights
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  Speaker 1: when they ordinarily wouldn't be doing that. So no, none
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  Speaker 1: of which is genuine. I don't think any of it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think Megan and Chris Cuomo hate each other
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  Speaker 2: that way.
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean all this I don't think Candace owns even
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  Speaker 2: is as invested as people think you and.
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  Speaker 1: Candace is broken. I don't think Tucker. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: these people think they're broken. I don't think they've thought
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  Speaker 1: about it enough to be anti semitic. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: about look at me, new kind of conservatism, new right
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  Speaker 1: what we do so anyway, but are.
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  Speaker 2: Very but it's very pragmatic. It's not just look at me.
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  Speaker 2: It's not about ego, it's about the bank account. It's
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  Speaker 2: about the business model. And this is the problem. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you and I have been in this business for decades.
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  Speaker 2: We don't have to sit around here and throw bombs
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  Speaker 2: in order to try to get attention, in order to
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  Speaker 2: try to make a decent living. You and I have
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  Speaker 2: had a great successful career without having.
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  Speaker 1: To do that.
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  Speaker 2: But in that space, in that world, you've got to
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  Speaker 2: keep one up in yourself. You've got to keep getting
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  Speaker 2: more outrageous. You got to start saying, I like Hitler,
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  Speaker 2: you got to go crazy, you got to go over
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  Speaker 2: the top, because then you'll get attention.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't. You're right, I don't think they think much.
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  Speaker 2: About the positions because I don't think they really hold
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  Speaker 2: many positions. You know what their position is, how many
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  Speaker 2: people do I have watching me today?
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  Speaker 1: How much?
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  Speaker 2: And then how much because if people have to understand,
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  Speaker 2: particularly like with YouTube and other platforms, there is a
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  Speaker 2: specific monetary value to how many eyeballs you've got, and
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  Speaker 2: they got to check every month. Maybe that's so that's
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  Speaker 2: what's good question. So I have a twofold purpose in
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  Speaker 2: my final question. One is to plug it and the
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  Speaker 2: other is to ask you about it. So in the
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  Speaker 2: i'd say weeks in the weeks to come, we're going
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  Speaker 2: to give us a little eminem extra podcast of this,
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  Speaker 2: not on the radio, not on anything, to.
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  Speaker 1: Just all you the exactly just to the podcast. What
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  Speaker 1: kind of fire hose of action is that going to
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  Speaker 1: be in view of the forces that you and I
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  Speaker 1: have just described.
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  Speaker 2: Well, our first day is how much we like Hitler.
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  Speaker 2: After that we've reathed on everything. The moon landing took
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  Speaker 2: place in Arizona. The earth is flat. I don't I
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  Speaker 2: don't like you at all, I don't hate you.
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  Speaker 1: I can't I can't stand you.
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  Speaker 2: Episode one, episode episode two, Nancy Guthrie is on a
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  Speaker 2: beach somewhere, so you know, we know where she is,
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  Speaker 2: and it was Israel that did Israel behind it. And
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  Speaker 2: I think we'll be in good ship. We'll be on
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  Speaker 2: some good start. We'll be we'll get our first check
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  Speaker 2: by you. I'm so glad to see you in person.
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  Speaker 2: Congratulations to the new digs and the new Ronda was
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  Speaker 2: so cute. I mean, she's showing me the space. I said, Ron,
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  Speaker 2: you can put some pictures, pictures up on this wall.
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  Speaker 1: Here. You got looks like Lisa on the on the
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  Speaker 1: on the wind.
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  Speaker 2: In your wall, in your job about her studio with that,
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  Speaker 2: and they're they're kind of that's a little smart. It
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  Speaker 2: was a little nurse ratchet over there. They got to
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  Speaker 2: get on the belt. They got to get some flash
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  Speaker 2: or something. I'm gonna you're a blotted plant tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, how about that? All right, I'll never really see
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  Speaker 1: you later see as soon as you bet you and
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  Speaker 1: we'll all see you the Mike Gallagher shows soon as
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  Speaker 1: we're done ten o'clock, right at six sixty am. The
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  Speaker 1: answer