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CONVICTED SEAN 'DIDDY' COMBS TO BE UNDER STRICT RULES ONCE RELEASED FROM PRISON, CART BEFORE THE HORSE? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: In the last days, we understand that Sean didd He
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  Speaker 2: Combs is to be under strict rules once released from prison.
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  Speaker 2: Wait a minute, released from prison. He hasn't served his
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  Speaker 2: Measley thirty six months yet, and we're already talking about release.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that putting the cart before the horse hold on
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  Speaker 2: Nelly strict rules?
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  Speaker 1: My rear end.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. I'm want to
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  Speaker 2: thank you for being with us. Why are we already
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  Speaker 2: talking about rules for release? Combs hasn't done a fraction
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  Speaker 2: of his mega thirty six months behind bars, after all
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  Speaker 2: the things the judge heard that he did to women,
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  Speaker 2: and he's doing thirty six months. I'm still reeling over that.
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  Speaker 2: But now his quote rules quote as if he ever
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  Speaker 2: lived according to rules they're called quote stringent restrictions, Well
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  Speaker 2: that's total bs. For instance, he will have to report
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  Speaker 2: to his probation officer quote as instructed. When when he's
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  Speaker 2: got to go to the probation department, that's nothing. He'll
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  Speaker 2: probably have a driver drop him off in front, go
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  Speaker 2: in charm the probation officer and then leave. Maybe he'll
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  Speaker 2: slip him a couple hundred dollars. Remember how he bribed
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  Speaker 2: the hotel employees to quash the video of him beating
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  Speaker 2: Cassie Venturo senseless Anyway, here's the second quote, stringent rule.
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  Speaker 2: His probation officer will be allowed to drop in any time. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: whatever you do, don't have a drink when you're their
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  Speaker 2: probation officer, or you may end up butt naked, getting
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  Speaker 2: videoed having sex and wake up with your rear end
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  Speaker 2: herding like many of the victims claim happened to them. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: you know what. This is what we know happened. After
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  Speaker 2: a split verdict where Shawn Combs is acquitted of rico,
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  Speaker 2: two other accounts come into play.
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  Speaker 1: Shawn Comb's convicted on two felony counts.
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  Speaker 2: There was a massive argument via paper to keep Shawn
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  Speaker 2: Combs behind bars, the defense fighting tooth and nail to
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  Speaker 2: let him out on appeal bond, which means you get
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  Speaker 2: out while your conviction is being appealed. Joining me right now,
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  Speaker 2: Tisa Tales. You can find her on YouTube at Tisa Tales.
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  Speaker 2: Tisa start at the beginning, Start with the verdict, the split.
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  Speaker 3: What happened when the jury walked in, everybody was on
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  Speaker 3: pins and needles.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody in the courtroom expected him to be guilty on
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  Speaker 3: at least the sex trafficking. There was a somber tone
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  Speaker 3: they walked in and when they said please read, and
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  Speaker 3: they said, what do you find ye on count one?
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  Speaker 3: Not guilty? It was a bomb that went off in
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  Speaker 3: the courtroom. The public audibly gassed. Nobody was expecting that.
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  Speaker 3: There were tears of joy from Ditty's side. Count two,
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  Speaker 3: what say ye not guilty?
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  Speaker 4: Again?
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  Speaker 3: Another bombshell went off. People were in utter disbelief. Any
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  Speaker 3: even Ditty's most ardent supporters, did not expect him to
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  Speaker 3: get off on the count of sex trafficking with Cassie.
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  Speaker 3: Count three when they said guilty for transportation of a prostitute,
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  Speaker 3: When they said guilty for the man a, that is
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  Speaker 3: when Didy's team actually cheered, yeah, that's all right, okay, okay,
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  Speaker 3: come on, almost like you were watching a pro football game.
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  Speaker 3: When the other ones came in after that, there were
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  Speaker 3: jaws on the ground.
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  Speaker 4: It was unbelievable. People were looking at the jury, searching.
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  Speaker 3: And to how they can get a verdict in this
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  Speaker 3: day and age.
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  Speaker 4: They heard Cassie's mother the twenty thousand.
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  Speaker 3: They heard Capricorn Clark, they heard about the savage beatings,
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  Speaker 3: and it was unbelievable that the only thing they said
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  Speaker 3: was prostitution.
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  Speaker 4: And that is because Daniel.
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  Speaker 3: Phillips in his testimony actually said, at least I'm guessing
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  Speaker 3: that it was because that he got paid to have
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  Speaker 3: sex for money. It was a travesty. It was an
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  Speaker 3: all out circus. Everybody, including myself, are running to safety.
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  Speaker 2: I got a question for your teas of tails, and
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  Speaker 2: everyone's going to want to know this. You're in a
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  Speaker 2: car right now. You had to leave the courthouse.
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  Speaker 3: Why I had to leave the courthouse because Diddy's supporters
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  Speaker 3: were out of control. The first time I ran in
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  Speaker 3: did my live. Of course, I had two armed security guys.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone told me the people in the courthouse is like,
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  Speaker 3: make sure you have security.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of weird stuff going on.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't just me, but I'll tell you what I experienced.
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  Speaker 3: Diddy supporter is surrounding me, threatening me, saying that they
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  Speaker 3: were going to hurt me. It was a serious situation.
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  Speaker 3: It got so bad and there was so much chalos
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  Speaker 3: of chaos and violence that they actually had to lock
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  Speaker 3: the courtroom down and force the Diddy supporters across the street.
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  Speaker 3: It was something myself, the news media, mainstream media, new
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  Speaker 3: media have never seen in their lives the level.
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  Speaker 4: And again the jurors, I hope to.
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  Speaker 3: God they know how to sleep at night, because again
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure they did their duty. But when all that
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  Speaker 3: chast was happening, as I was being threatened and ushered
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  Speaker 3: out by armed security people, I thought, this is what
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  Speaker 3: the jury did.
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  Speaker 4: They sent a signal that it is okay to.
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  Speaker 3: Use violence, It's okay to drug people up, it's okay
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  Speaker 3: to live a life of debauchery, It's okay to do
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  Speaker 3: whatever you want. Because guess what if you work hard enough,
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  Speaker 3: and you have enough money and.
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  Speaker 4: Enough delusional fans, and.
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  Speaker 3: You have engrained yourself in culture enough that you can
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  Speaker 3: do whatever you want, and twelve of your peers will
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  Speaker 3: look the other way.
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  Speaker 4: Again, this jury was shocking.
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  Speaker 1: Taste of teals.
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  Speaker 2: When you say that Shawncom's supporters threatened you, what were
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  Speaker 2: they saying?
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  Speaker 4: They were saying, you B, you f and B. We're
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  Speaker 4: going to kill you, you f and B. You've worked apparently.
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  Speaker 3: I work for the fence. You're a plant. You make
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  Speaker 3: this all up because of you. Again, they're not too
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  Speaker 3: smart because of you. That's how this case got started.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna treat you worse than we treated Cassie. Cassie,
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  Speaker 3: what we do to you, it's gonna be nothing that
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  Speaker 3: they had on Cassie.
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  Speaker 4: They were screaming, they were yelling.
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  Speaker 3: Some people were saying, apologize the Diddy, apologize the Ditty.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, thank goodness.
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  Speaker 3: We had Lenny and we had Jimmy, two of the
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  Speaker 3: best arm guards out there.
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  Speaker 4: So the one thing is they and also they started foaming.
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  Speaker 3: Like wild dogs because they realized that I was not
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  Speaker 3: an unprotected woman, and they realized they could not just
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  Speaker 3: do what they felt like. And they started foaming like
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  Speaker 3: wild dogs, screaming, their voices cracking in anger that they
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  Speaker 3: ricially wanted to rip me apart.
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  Speaker 4: This is why their hero had been exonerated.
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  Speaker 3: Even in the best of times, these people that support him,
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  Speaker 3: there's something wrong with it. And I gotta tell you, Nancy,
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't just me.
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  Speaker 4: It was not just me.
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  Speaker 3: It was anybody that didn't have a pro Diddy stamp
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  Speaker 3: from the beginning.
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  Speaker 4: That's who suffered.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me an all star panel that I want to
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  Speaker 2: thank Tisa tales for what she's doing tonight.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Rob Sheeter is joining me. Rob, I really
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  Speaker 1: don't know where to start. This is a blow.
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  Speaker 2: This is a huge blow to crime victims all over
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  Speaker 2: the country. Huge blow. The big news is right now,
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  Speaker 2: Sean Combs is going to jail. Okay, He's going to jail.
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  Speaker 2: I was actually worried that somehow the judge would contriveting
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  Speaker 2: the law. And the law is under the Bill Reform
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  Speaker 2: Act that for these two charges on which he was convicted,
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  Speaker 2: he has to go to jail.
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  Speaker 1: There is no appeal bond period.
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  Speaker 2: But I was so concerned that the judge would somehow
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  Speaker 2: find a way to let him walk. And all this time, Shooter,
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  Speaker 2: we've been hearing. I've got all these letters here. Here's
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  Speaker 2: one from Deontay Nash in fear, in fear talking about Combs,
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  Speaker 2: this long, well documented history of violent retaliatory behavior.
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  Speaker 1: They're afraid.
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  Speaker 2: Rob'shoter, guys, Shooter knows comes better than any of us.
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  Speaker 2: His longtime publicists know more. But now you can find
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  Speaker 2: him at his substack robshooter dot substack dot com and
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  Speaker 2: noney but nice podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Shooter.
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  Speaker 2: I got to tell you, it was like a kick
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  Speaker 2: in the stomach when that split verdict came down.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think everybody was done before. Before I continue, then, Nancy,
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  Speaker 5: I just want to send my best to Tisha. What
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  Speaker 5: happened to her outside that courthouse is horrific. It is wrong,
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  Speaker 5: and I'm afraid these people now have been emboldened. When
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  Speaker 5: we heard the judgment.
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  Speaker 6: I think we were all shell shocked, we were all heartbroken,
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  Speaker 6: we all felt like we'd been kicked in the stomach. However,
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  Speaker 6: as the day has gone on, we do have to
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  Speaker 6: remember Nanty that he has been found guilty of two
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  Speaker 6: very serious charges. If any other celebrity had been charged
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  Speaker 6: with those two charges, those alone and being found guilty,
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  Speaker 6: we would be done with them. So the celebration from
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  Speaker 6: Team Diddy, the disappointment from people who've been watching this
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  Speaker 6: as closely as we have, I think we can take
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  Speaker 6: a step back both sides and realize that this is
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  Speaker 6: not a good day for d Day. He is now
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  Speaker 6: a federal criminal, is in jail tonight, He's going to
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  Speaker 6: remain there, and so at least take some solace in that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Rob Shooter, I've been getting flooded by crime victims,
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  Speaker 2: rape victims from all walks of life that are upset.
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  Speaker 2: They don't really sound mad, yet they're devastated, They're sad.
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  Speaker 2: They can't believe this has happened. I've been already subjected
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  Speaker 2: to a lot of attacks, verbal attacks, and I think,
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  Speaker 2: like what Tisa tells, has been subjected to already. But
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  Speaker 2: I give the credit to the prosecutors for going in there.
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  Speaker 2: And I truly believe this was a David and Goliath
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  Speaker 2: and they went in against one of the highest profile
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  Speaker 2: personalities in our country, Sean Comes, who many people think
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  Speaker 2: that they know and they love him, and for some reason,
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  Speaker 2: that blinded them, that drowned out everything that three sex
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  Speaker 2: attack victims said.
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  Speaker 1: And one had the video? What had the video? I
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  Speaker 1: just I don't get it.
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  Speaker 2: Rob Shooter, give me some insight and to how Sean
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  Speaker 2: Comes got a split vert. But yes, you're right, he
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  Speaker 2: is going to jail on two felonies, two felonies.
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  Speaker 1: That's a victory that Seawan Comes is going to jail.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a victory.
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  Speaker 5: We have to hadn't gone for that, Nancaid, because in
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  Speaker 5: this moment, in this hour, there's not a lot of hope.
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  Speaker 6: Everything seems so bad.
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  Speaker 5: We have let down, not just the people in this case,
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  Speaker 5: but victings around the world. Didd now will be empowered.
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  Speaker 5: This is not the end of the story, Nancy. When
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  Speaker 5: he gets out of jail, if he gets out of jail,
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  Speaker 5: his behavior will not change because he thinks he has
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  Speaker 5: gotten away with it.
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  Speaker 6: Again. If you enable.
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  Speaker 5: Someone, Nancy, they do not change. So mark my words, Nancy,
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  Speaker 5: this is not the end of the Diddy story.
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  Speaker 6: It's the end of a very, very sad chapter. And
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  Speaker 6: I think we've let a lot of people down.
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  Speaker 5: And as far as being concerned about safety, I just
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  Speaker 5: broke reporting that Cassie has now increased her security. Cassie
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  Speaker 5: in New York, her home now has security increased.
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  Speaker 6: And I think a lot of other people, courageous people.
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  Speaker 5: Who came forward assistance, people that worked with Diddy came
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  Speaker 5: forward and testified they're very vulnerable and they are very,
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  Speaker 5: very scared right now.
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  Speaker 2: Linn Shaw joining me, founder and director Linn's Warriors, dedicated
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  Speaker 2: to ending sex trafficking and sex abuse on girls and women.
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  Speaker 2: When I learned about the split verdict, I was speechless.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. But it's happened.
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  Speaker 2: So what do you want the prosecutors to do? Go
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  Speaker 2: home and hide under the bed. Should they had just
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  Speaker 2: never even brought the case. They did it because they
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  Speaker 2: believed it, and I still do believe it. Lynn, I
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  Speaker 2: believe Cassie vent Tira was coerced and beaten into having
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  Speaker 2: sex with male sex workers.
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  Speaker 1: That sex trafficking. I believe her.
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  Speaker 7: I believe Cassie. I believe Jane. I believe sex trafficking.
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  Speaker 7: This is a sober reflection on everything I've been talking
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  Speaker 7: about for about eight weeks now with this trial that
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  Speaker 7: the public and I'm going to say the jurors, okay,
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  Speaker 7: do not understand predation, power, what sex trafficking is. And
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  Speaker 7: a reminder again, this case was not just about one man.
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  Speaker 7: This case was about all of the victory across the
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  Speaker 7: country the world whose voices have been silenced because they
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  Speaker 7: don't come forward because the justice system usually picks power, wealth,
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  Speaker 7: status over believing their truths.
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  Speaker 1: But I want to point.
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  Speaker 7: Out there is hope. I've spent all day coaching people,
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  Speaker 7: talking people, fielding text messages, and I want to say,
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  Speaker 7: you know what, these victims that reach out to me, Nancy,
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  Speaker 7: they're not even angry, you know what they keep saying.
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  Speaker 7: Please Lynn, please remind everybody we're victims. Please remind everybody
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  Speaker 7: we have a voice. Please remind everybody we are here.
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  Speaker 7: And that goes back to I have to do. We
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  Speaker 7: have to do in society a better job of educating
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  Speaker 7: about sex, trafficking, about trauma, bonding, trauma, what predation really
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  Speaker 7: looks like. This is the most frightening thing to empower
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  Speaker 7: this Sean Colms and I just want to make the
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  Speaker 7: commitment that we will work very hard to continue reforming,
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  Speaker 7: raising awareness and working with the justice system.
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  Speaker 2: Straight back out to Tasa Tales, who has made it
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  Speaker 2: to a safe location, taste the Tales.
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk.
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  Speaker 2: About what happened when the split verdict was announced in
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  Speaker 2: the courtroom, and then I want to move to the
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  Speaker 2: appeal bond hearing. Let's start with the split verdict. Take
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  Speaker 2: it from the very beginning.
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  Speaker 3: When you heard count one not guilty, A bomb went
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  Speaker 3: off in the courtroom. Not guilty. No one could believe it,
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  Speaker 3: Song did. He's calm side even looked around as if
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  Speaker 3: they hadn't heard correctly. No one thought that the jury
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  Speaker 3: would actually.
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  Speaker 1: Go this far.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody thought that the delay meant that he was actually guilty.
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  Speaker 3: When the second count was read, again, jaws dropped open
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  Speaker 3: did he leaned back in relief.
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  Speaker 4: Raised his hands. The defence team was like, yes, I
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  Speaker 4: get it. They literally pulled a magic act. Okay, they
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  Speaker 4: literally pulled a magic act.
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  Speaker 3: His team, his side start sarted, celebrating, started saying yeah.
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  Speaker 3: When we heard the third count, guilty for the prostitution, okay.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone on his.
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  Speaker 3: Side it was like, that's okay, that's okay. They were clapping,
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  Speaker 3: almost like they were watching a football game. When they
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  Speaker 3: first came out with the verdict. The prosecution was doing
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  Speaker 3: what they were doing. They were looking straight. It's a job,
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  Speaker 3: I would assume, to look like they always have it
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  Speaker 3: under control.
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  Speaker 4: By the time they got.
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  Speaker 3: To the third count, Marine called me, looked over at
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  Speaker 3: the jury and disbelief.
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  Speaker 4: Literally again, she's always.
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  Speaker 3: Very composed, but even for her to finally look over
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  Speaker 3: at the jury on some are you kidding me? And
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  Speaker 3: she just kept looking at the jury as they read
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  Speaker 3: the counts. Again, I know the jury did their best,
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  Speaker 3: but I cannot feel that justice was served. How can
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  Speaker 3: you forget the vicious beatings. How can you forget the
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  Speaker 3: twenty k the mom had to wire and order four
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  Speaker 3: two freak off tastes not to be released.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, that's what she thought when she wired it.
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  Speaker 3: Can you forget what happened to Bonna being hung over balcony?
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  Speaker 4: She might have got the date wrong by a few
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  Speaker 4: days days, but the point is it happened.
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  Speaker 3: How you can get forget Deontay Nash and the best
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  Speaker 3: friend Carrie.
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  Speaker 4: Who got a hangar to the head and.
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  Speaker 3: Saw Cassie get impiled, driven into the corner of a
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  Speaker 3: bed on purpose.
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  Speaker 4: How can you forget all that and.
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  Speaker 3: Come back and say, you know what, we don't see
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  Speaker 3: anything criminal here again. We can argue about the prosecution, prostitution,
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  Speaker 3: got ditty on the head, We can argue about the
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  Speaker 3: prosecution what they could have did better, But the fact
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  Speaker 3: that the jury chose to overlook all that. It brought
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  Speaker 3: me back to what Rob Shooter said weeks ago when
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  Speaker 3: I first started joining you, Nacy, that people get starstrucked
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  Speaker 3: and they want some of that magic. And it makes
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  Speaker 3: me wonder were they starstruck? Were they feeling sorry and
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  Speaker 3: trying to protect a legacy for someone that hit their
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  Speaker 3: depravity and their evil ways behind it.
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  Speaker 4: It makes you want dirty.
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  Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: Sean didd He comes to be under quote stringent restrictions
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  Speaker 2: when he finishes his thirty six months behind bars that
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  Speaker 2: tasted like a dirt sandwich. Why just thirty six months
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  Speaker 2: is fifty months minus time served, which is fourteen months,
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  Speaker 2: which equals thirty six months. For instance, one of the
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  Speaker 2: stringent rules is he must submit to a search of
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  Speaker 2: himself and his property.
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  Speaker 1: Okay for a guy that's stripped.
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  Speaker 2: Down repeatedly wearing nothing but a burka in the sex videos,
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  Speaker 2: I doubt he's gonna mind that at all. Joining Men,
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  Speaker 2: All Star panel back to Tisa tells Joining Us she
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  Speaker 2: had to be escorted by armed guards out of the
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  Speaker 2: courthouse and leave the scene after she was mobbed by
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  Speaker 2: ditty fans. Explain to me what was happening outside the courthouse.
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  Speaker 2: I understand that once the split verdict was announced, the
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  Speaker 2: Diddy followers, the Diddy worshippers, went cray outside the courthouse,
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  Speaker 2: actually dousing each other with baby oil and chanting.
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  Speaker 3: They farmed the circle. It looked like a mush pit
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  Speaker 3: of depravity. They were spraying baby oil on each other,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: jumping around feeling fantastic. One woman and a pair of
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Calvin Klein breasts and agra started jumping up and down, wiggling.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Why they sat.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: There spraying baby on her, and the crowd was channing
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: yay yay, yay go.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: And hyping them up. It was a monstrous bowl of
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: the party depravity.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: When I say, I was sickened, When I say, I
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: sh shook my head. And when I said, these are
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: the peers, these are the jury of the peers. And
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: it makes me wonder as a jury goes home and
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: they look at the television sets and they see what
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: their decision costs and what was on the line, it
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: makes me wonder.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: How can they sleep at night? It was absolute pandemonial.
• 20:15
  Speaker 8: In between the jumping up and down with the baby
• 20:18
  Speaker 8: oil woman willingly baby oil being squirted on them, and
• 20:23
  Speaker 8: everybody laughing and having a time like Christmas had just
• 20:26
  Speaker 8: come with Santa and the troll perverted els.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: What happened after that was even more amazing because.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: While that was going on, there were little fires everywhere
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: of these bands of I don't know if they're in cels,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: if they're idiots, what was going on looking for anybody
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: they had ever saw make anti Ditty contest, and by
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: anti Diddy, according to thelm it is pro justice. They
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: were going out their ways to make sure that everybody paid.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: And again I said, this is what that jury cost says.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: Let us know. It's sent a message.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: It's okay to be depraved, it's okay to beat women,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: it's okay to do drugs, it's okay to do whatever
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: you want. And that jury, that jury, when they gave
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: the verdict, signals that. Again, I'm still coming to terms
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: with how the jury got to this. Thank God, this
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: man was denied bail.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Thank God.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Straight out to send me some re joining US Crime Stories,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: investigative reporter on the case from the very beginning, break
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: down the counts for me, said.
• 21:26
  Speaker 9: Nancy, how one is that racketeering, rico conspiracy. Combs was
• 21:31
  Speaker 9: found not guilty on count one. Count two, three, four,
• 21:35
  Speaker 9: and five are those sex trafficking and transportation to engage
• 21:40
  Speaker 9: in prostitution charges. So there was one count each for
• 21:44
  Speaker 9: Cassie and Jane on both of those charges. So the
• 21:48
  Speaker 9: jury found that Combs was liable for both transportation to
• 21:52
  Speaker 9: engage in prostitution charges and not guilty on sex trafficking
• 21:57
  Speaker 9: for either Jane or Cassie.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Straight out to Philip Debate, joining US veteran trial lawyer,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: joining US out of the La jurisdiction, So debate. This
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: is the breakdown. Count one racketeering not guilty. Count two
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: sex trafficking by force, fraud or coercion as it relates
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: to Cassie Ventira, you know the woman that was beaten
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: in that video and dragged back to a freak off
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: her the one that had to get plastic surgery on
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: her face after did he beat her up?
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: That one that's a not guilty.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Count three transportation to engage in prostitution as it relates
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: to Cassie. Guilty that carries a maximum of ten years.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: And that comes, i believe from the sex worker who
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: came in Philip and described Sean Combs wearing a burka
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: from the chin up and naked from the chin down
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: and had him have sex with Cassie on video and
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: directed them that was across state lines. So guilty on
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: that count for sex trafficking by force, fraud, coercion as
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: it relates to Jane victim.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Two not guilty.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Count five transportation to engage in prostitution as it relates
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: to Jane.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Guilty.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: So we got two guilties, three not guilties, split verdict.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: So there was great jubilation at first. When did he
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: followers heard.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Split They heard the words not guilty on count one
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: and went crazy. What do you think is going to
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: happen now, Philip?
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: He will be getting in prison time, There's no question.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Right, another thing debate. Let's get real.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: It's really rare in federal and state court that once
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: you're convicted and a jury convicts.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: You on a violent offence, that you.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Get an appeal bond, which means, okay, Joe, I know
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: he just got convicted, but could you please let him
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: walk free now until we take this all the way
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: up up to the appellate court and get a decision
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: that rarely works.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Agree, disagree?
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: Oh, I agree one hundred percent. No higher court is
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: going to find that this judge abused his discretion by
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: not letting him out or by not setting a bond.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: You know. Robert Crispin joining me, private investigator at Crispin
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Special Investigations, former homicide and former vice detective Crispin. Here's
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: the deal. If the judge had granted Shawn Combs a
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: bond and appeal bond. Now remember once he was arrested, Crispin,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: he was kept behind bars. He did not have a
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: bond right for a reason. He's got money, and he
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: squats right over by Teeterborough, the private airport near New York.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: You know, if the judge had given Shawn Combs an appeal.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Bond, he goes straight to Teeborough and take off, probably
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: under an assumed name.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: When you fly a private plane, you can give a
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: fake ID.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Just it's not the same as going through TSA at
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Hartsville International or LaGuardia or jfk No, where they will
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: frisk you and look in all your bags.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: It's not like that. At a private plane.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: You kind of just walk on onto your private plane
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: that he has, have a glass of champagne and.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Go bye bye us, Hello Paris. That's what happens, Crispin.
• 25:24
  Speaker 10: Yeah. Actually, earlier, just before we came on Nancy, I
• 25:26
  Speaker 10: was trying to find out where his G five to
• 25:28
  Speaker 10: fifty was, because we know that it was out in
• 25:30
  Speaker 10: La a couple of days ago. I was trying to
• 25:33
  Speaker 10: see if they had already got those guys up and
• 25:36
  Speaker 10: running and that plane was coming eastbound, thinking he was
• 25:38
  Speaker 10: going to probably get out and dip out back out
• 25:40
  Speaker 10: to La or back down here to Miami to where
• 25:45
  Speaker 10: his neighbors aren't certainly thrilled about him coming back, but
• 25:48
  Speaker 10: doesn't look like anytime soon he's going to be gracing
• 25:51
  Speaker 10: his presence with these guys. So I was trying to
• 25:55
  Speaker 10: find out where that jet was that I haven't found
• 25:56
  Speaker 10: out yet. But the verdict is just it's harp or king.
• 26:00
  Speaker 10: It's a black eye to the victims. It's terrible, horrible
• 26:05
  Speaker 10: for any of these victims that want to come forward,
• 26:08
  Speaker 10: or any witness that wants to put their ass on
• 26:10
  Speaker 10: the line, raise your right hand and testify against somebody.
• 26:13
  Speaker 10: When a jury's going to find that guy not guilty,
• 26:17
  Speaker 10: that's really bad for these witnesses and victims. They know
• 26:20
  Speaker 10: what's coming.
• 26:21
  Speaker 9: Now.
• 26:21
  Speaker 10: Look what's happened to our reporter As she was leaving
• 26:25
  Speaker 10: the courthouse, they were attacking her. This guy was found
• 26:28
  Speaker 10: guilty of federal parts.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: And I'd like to point out Rob Sheater what they
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: were saying to Tisa Hills.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: Rob.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: They were saying, we're gonna do worse to you than
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: we did to Cassie Sheter. I mean, Diddy has to
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: be condoning this. He has been orchestrating the crowd. He's
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: been orchestrating everything.
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Nancy, I think looking for Diddy to do the
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: right thing at this moment is unrealistic.
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: This is who he is. The whole world to see
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: who he is.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: And unfortunately there's a large amount of people out there
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: who are just perfectly fine with this. Nobody can pretend
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: anymore that we don't know who did he is. We
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: know we've seen him on tape. That tape will exist forever.
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: We've heard the testimonies, we've heard the accounts, we've heard
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: the details, we've seen them, and yet some people still
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: support him. There's nothing we can do about that, Nancy.
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: And to think that Diddy is going to stop it,
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: that ain't going to happen.
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: He's going to encourage it.
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: He wants people out there, he wants the violence, he
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: wants people screaming. This to him is the party that
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: he always wanted to throw shape.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: You know, Rob Shooter, everything you're saying can be transposed
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: to him before he was arrested. You know, in every case,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: I've told you this before off air. I've seen a
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: million homicide scenes. I've been to the Morgue, I've seen
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: it all. But there's always a moment in a trial
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: that just twists the knife very disturbing. And in this trial,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: there were two moments like that for me.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: And one was.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: In the Hotel Intercontinental video beat down where she had
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: already been beaten and she was backing up and she
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: tried to hold up She's right handed was holding holding
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: her mouth I think, with one hand, the right hand
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: and holding up her left hand against Sean Comb's like
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: she could fight him off, okay. And the the other
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: moment was when she was getting beaten and she was
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: down on the floor and Combs had a.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Glass, a liquor glass held.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Up ready to throw down at her face, and she said,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: can't you see what's happening?
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: And nobody did anything.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: It's just like in the courtroom, the jury didn't do
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: any They didn't.
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: They didn't, Nancy. It's heartbreaking. People I know who.
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: Have worked with him, who knew him, many of us
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: are on a text exchange and they're heartbroken, and a
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: lot of people are really worried to I don't want
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: to keep hopping on about this, Nancy, but this is
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: a very dangerous man. This is a man who allegedly
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: try to fire bomb the car of somebody that was
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: dating his.
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: Girlfriend, his ex girlfriend this is a.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: Dangerous, dangerous man, and what that jury has just done
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: has said it doesn't matter.
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: It's okay.
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: You keep being puffy, you keep being you, and we
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: will support you. But let me just say, Nancy, we
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: can't just blame the jury here. We've got to blame
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: the person that did it. And that's did he did.
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: He is responsible for all this. Everything else is a
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: red herring. He's the problem and he will continue now
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: to be a problem.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Doctor Cheryl Eric, who is a clinical and forensics psychologist,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: explain the effect this is going to have on not
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: only these victims that we heard on the stand, but
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: other victims everywhere.
• 30:07
  Speaker 11: Nancy, Once there is the threat of violence, that power
• 30:11
  Speaker 11: control tactic shapes everything that happens after that. We have
• 30:16
  Speaker 11: a jury who heard evidence about a tremendous amount of violence, threats,
• 30:21
  Speaker 11: threats of blackmail, videotaped assaults that were maintaining the power
• 30:26
  Speaker 11: and control, and yet they didn't feel that they had
• 30:29
  Speaker 11: enough evidence to be able to find that what was
• 30:32
  Speaker 11: happening there was not consensual. Trafficking has to do with force, fraud, coercion.
• 30:39
  Speaker 11: Consent is anything, but when somebody really scary makes you
• 30:45
  Speaker 11: an offer, that you cannot refuse that is not consent.
• 30:50
  Speaker 11: And what I think people are failing to understand about
• 30:53
  Speaker 11: the way that the even the threat of violence shapes
• 30:56
  Speaker 11: behavior is that when someone does not believe that they
• 30:59
  Speaker 11: can survive a threat by actually fighting back, they use fawning,
• 31:04
  Speaker 11: They use appeasing, they use the freeze response. They are
• 31:08
  Speaker 11: trying to placate the person who is scaring them. And
• 31:12
  Speaker 11: this man certainly has no shortage of people who were really,
• 31:15
  Speaker 11: really frightened of him and still are.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: And I think that.
• 31:18
  Speaker 11: These really normal autonomic nervous system survival responses, fawning, appeasing,
• 31:25
  Speaker 11: the freeze response, These are things that need to be
• 31:27
  Speaker 11: understood better by juries, understood better by the public, and
• 31:32
  Speaker 11: even by survivors themselves.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: You know, Rob Shooter.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Would you look one more time at these celebrations going
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: on outside the courthouse after the split verdict was announced.
• 31:46
  Speaker 12: Take a look, thoughts, Nanci.
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: I can tell you, as somebody who knows puff those
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: people standing outside that courts have never met him. They've
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: never been to his apartment, they've never been on his
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: private plane. They've never had a text or an email
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: or a phone call with him. I have he doesn't
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: care about any of those people, all those people who
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: have took their time, their energy to go and support
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: this guy. Let me talk to them directly. He does
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: not care about you. If he can treat his girlfriend
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: Cassie the way that we've seen him treat it on video,
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: this is not testimony, this is video.
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: If he can treat.
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: Someone who he's supposed to love like that, how do
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: you think he can treat you. He doesn't care about you.
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: You're wasting your energy on him, And honestly, my friends, stop,
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: he doesn't care. He's laughing at these people outside that
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: court has he's egging them on, but he doesn't care.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: You know, Rob Sheeter, You speak with so much conviction
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: and so much feeling, and that tells me that you
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: know something something.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: You haven't told me. Why do you believe this?
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: What did you observe to make you say what you
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: just said.
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: I've observed a really selfish person, Nancy. I've observed a
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: person who doesn't have any shame, who has no sense
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: of pride, who has no sense of decency. He's a
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: really bad man, and through his career, through the media,
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: through his products, he has managed to come us all
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: to kid us all into believing he is somebody else. Now,
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: I hoped that day was coming to an end. In fact,
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: I could even tell you the day that I thought
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: it was ending. It was today. I'm absolutely punched to
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: my gut, to my stomach to know that Puffy once
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: again rises. Maybe not like a phoenix, but justice does
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: not feel as if it has been sod shooter.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Do you know that people aren't flooding the courthouse the
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: judges chambers with letters please don't let him out.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: We're afraid.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: From Cassie Ventura's lawyer to Deonte Nash, so many others
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: in fear, just like what you're saying. And we heard
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: earlier how this affects people. They saw what happened to
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: kid Cuddy, they saw what happened to Cassie, and now he's.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Going to walk crime stories with Nancy Grace. Another stringent
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: rule set down by the judge comes.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: We'll have to live in a home approved by the
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: probation officer.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, what a mansion suffice? I bet it does.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Speaking of the mansion, a man is where many of
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: the so called free coughs occurred. But what went on
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: behind those mansioned walls? Was pure hell according to many
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: of the victims, after the split verdict, when everyone or
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: I sprang each other with baby oil outside the courthouse.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: And baying and yelling and.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Celebrating, Comes goes back into the courtroom Sidney for the hearing.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Right the hearing on is there going to be an appeal? Bond?
• 35:34
  Speaker 9: Is?
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Comes going to walk out of the courthouse a freeman today.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: During that hearing, Comes briefly tries to raise his hand
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: to speak after the judge denies his request for release again.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: The judge seemed to ignore the move and instead asks
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: the US Assistant Attorney Marine Comy to respond, and she says, quote,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: he is extremely violent with an extraordinary temper, who has
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: shown no remorse and no regret. And it makes me think, Sinney,
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: about that fake apology. I'm going to keep that up
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: and play it for you in just a moment, said
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: where he does all this apologizing after beating Cassie, But
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: according to what we learned in court and sworn testimony,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: he continued the violence after the apology video. That's what
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: she said, no remorse and no regret at all.
• 36:34
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that is definitely what the judge and prosecutors are thinking.
• 36:39
  Speaker 9: Comy referenced the violent incident with Jane after Colmes knew
• 36:44
  Speaker 9: he was already under investigation. The judge referenced the multiple
• 36:50
  Speaker 9: instances of Colme's trying to reach out to potential witnesses,
• 36:54
  Speaker 9: trying to sway their opinions of what they might tell
• 36:58
  Speaker 9: investigators after this and mistigation began when Comes was well
• 37:02
  Speaker 9: aware it was underway. Judge to harmony and also referenced
• 37:06
  Speaker 9: Mark Agmophillo's own closing arguments. You full throw the feed
• 37:10
  Speaker 9: told the jury that there was violence, domestic violence in
• 37:14
  Speaker 9: all of Come's relationships. Y'all own that, and it may
• 37:18
  Speaker 9: have helped on some of these charges. It may have
• 37:21
  Speaker 9: helped with the guilty not guilty verdict, but it is
• 37:25
  Speaker 9: definitely coming back to bite him now.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Straight out to Lynn Shaw. This also happened in the proceedings.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: This is after Comes tried to raise his hand to
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: address the judge directly during the arguments, And this is
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: after the split verdict when everybody was celebrating outside. Now
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: comes the appeal bond, where the judge is going to
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: decide will Comes walk free tonight?
• 37:51
  Speaker 12: Okay?
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: The judge looks over.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: At the defense and he says as Sidney just reported.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Quote you full throatedly. I've never even heard anybody use
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: that phrase, but he did.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: You full throatedly in your closing argument told the jury
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: there was violence and domestic violence is violence. You said
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: this was the case that did have violence. This is
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: the judge talking to Combs as to the basic question
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: of violence.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: You conceded that in your closing argument.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Now throughout this comes is furiously passing notes back and
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: forth to Agnifilo, who is trying to stand there and
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: argue and read Ola. Shawn comes his notes. Wait for it,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Lynn Shaw. Agnifilo responds, I.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Just think we should trust him. He's not gonna flee.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: He just deserves a chance.
• 38:52
  Speaker 7: Lynn, Please let us all get off this dirty diddy,
• 38:56
  Speaker 7: degenerate merry gourround that we're all on. How dare that lawyer?
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: How dare he? He's got a wife, he's got a daughter.
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: I believe he's got sisters, a mother, talk like this
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: violence is violence?
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Trust him.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: We have seen everything to the.
• 39:11
  Speaker 7: Contrary, including video evidence of Cassie being beaten. How much more.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Do we need?
• 39:18
  Speaker 7: This goes back to this is one of the worst
• 39:20
  Speaker 7: days here at the Warriors to have all of this
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  Speaker 7: video to hear the way they're talking about victims, trust him,
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  Speaker 7: trust him. There's no way anybody should trust him. I'm
• 39:32
  Speaker 7: here in New York City and Rob Shooter's correct. We've
• 39:35
  Speaker 7: got these dirty Diddy disciples running around. People should be
• 39:37
  Speaker 7: in fear of this guy. But that brings me to
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: how does he get away with all of this for decades?
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: What about the victims that I've been up for forty
• 39:46
  Speaker 7: eight hours now, counseling, helping, giving out phone numbers, resources,
• 39:50
  Speaker 7: Come stay with me if you don't want to be alone.
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  Speaker 4: What a slap in.
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  Speaker 7: The face today to all of these victims, survivors of
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: any kind of sexual abuse. And you know what, this
• 40:02
  Speaker 7: is the problem with sex trafficking. Nobody I'm a broken record.
• 40:05
  Speaker 7: Nobody understands it. Nobody understands what forced for coersion. Nobody
• 40:10
  Speaker 7: understands coersion. And you know what, it is time we
• 40:13
  Speaker 7: change it up. But this is a travesty. What a
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: slap in everybody's face.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Sean Comes goes to jail, split verdict, not guilty on Rico,
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  Speaker 2: not guilty on two counts of sex trafficking, guilty on
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: two counts of bringing people across state lines. To engage
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: in illegal activity, that being prostitution, as it relates to
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Cassie Ventura a victim, and Jane not her real name,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: a victim. To Robert Crispin joining me PI but former
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: beat coop, former special investigator with the Federal Task Force
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: for the US Department of Justice, and on and on,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Robert Crispin, have you ever been in a case where
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: the bad guy walks?
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  Speaker 10: Oh, my god, Nancy, this brought back. This brought back
• 41:06
  Speaker 10: such a memory of a guy who was leaning over
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  Speaker 10: the balcony holding two kilos of cocaine in a CBS bag,
• 41:13
  Speaker 10: getting ready to drop it on the floor because the
• 41:16
  Speaker 10: Feds were knocking on the front door, and I was
• 41:18
  Speaker 10: covering the back door, and he dropped it and I
• 41:21
  Speaker 10: got it, and I idt him, and we went to
• 41:23
  Speaker 10: the jury and the jury found him not guilty when me,
• 41:28
  Speaker 10: as the Federal DEA Drug agent, watched him drop that bag.
• 41:32
  Speaker 10: And you know why, Nancy, because juries are so unpredictable.
• 41:37
  Speaker 10: You know why, we didn't pull his DNA off the bag.
• 41:40
  Speaker 10: But I watched him. I watched him drop those kilos
• 41:44
  Speaker 10: of cocaine out of the ground. These juries have a
• 41:46
  Speaker 10: mind of their own.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: I know how that must have felt shame. And the
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: thing is this is a violent.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Crime, Philip debay from what the judge was saying. When
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Shawn Comes raise his hand trying to speak to the
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: judge while Agniffilo was arguing, the judge acting like he
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: didn't even see him. The judge did note the wide
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: divergence between what the state wants a sentencing and what
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: the defense wants is sentencing, But hearing what the judge said,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: the judge can't just erase from his mind what he
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: saw on the Cassie beat down video. He cannot erase
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: from his mind what the victim said on the stand.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: According to these stringent rules, Comes will be prohibited from
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: drug use. Well wait a minute, aren't we all prohibited
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: from illegal drug use?
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: How is that a stringent rule?
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: And speaking of drugs, many of the women in the
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: civil complaints claimed they were drugged before being stripped and
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: video taking part in free cough as they call them videos,
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: I call it rape, okay, speaking of putting the cart
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: before the horse, Sean Comes.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Is still behind bars, isn't he?
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, didn't he get a whopper thirty six months?
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Thanks judge for that rape victims all over the world
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: now hiding under their beds. Thanks to you, Judge, we
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: wait as just as sudden faults.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Goodbye f