Latest / Best of Business / Claire Trevett: NZ Herald political editor on Prime Minister Chris Luxon's business delegation to Japan

Transcript

Claire Trevett: NZ Herald political editor on Prime Minister Chris Luxon's business delegation to Japan · Best of Business

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talk ZEDB. Follow
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
• 0:16
  Speaker 2: Do join.
• 0:17
  Speaker 3: I mean now we have got he Zell and here.
• 0:19
  Speaker 3: Political editor Clare Trevette.
• 0:21
  Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning.
• 0:23
  Speaker 3: It's quite busy at the moment, isn't it.
• 0:25
  Speaker 4: The Prime Minister leaves for Japan today and he's been
• 0:28
  Speaker 4: quite vocal about this trip before he leaves.
• 0:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, he's done his usual pre trip round of interviews.
• 0:37
  Speaker 2: He's off to Japan today and back at the end
• 0:40
  Speaker 2: of the week. He is predominantly the start of it
• 0:43
  Speaker 2: is predominantly a business trip. And because the Christopher Lutsen
• 0:48
  Speaker 2: likes to pretend or not for tend, but likes to
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: talk up how everything he's doing is better than how
• 0:53
  Speaker 2: people be forded it, he's done the same with his
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: business delegation and his pre trip interviews where he's taking
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: their heads of their New Zealand, the A and Z Chair,
• 1:05
  Speaker 2: Rocket Lab, Fronterra, Sit, the Superfund, investment people, Zero's estray
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: all the big names and he's claiming that his list
• 1:13
  Speaker 2: is the a list of the business delegation. And in
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: the past he's had concerns that the business delegations going on.
• 1:19
  Speaker 2: The Prime minister's trips have been quote b list. I'm
• 1:24
  Speaker 2: not sure that quite steps up. You usually have a
• 1:26
  Speaker 2: max actually of the big names and their boutique names.
• 1:29
  Speaker 2: But his primary aim, because he is quite a business
• 1:33
  Speaker 2: driven prime minister, is to try and get investment, basically
• 1:37
  Speaker 2: investment in New Zealand, and he's taking the companies over
• 1:41
  Speaker 2: for basically to build on their investment message and cut
• 1:45
  Speaker 2: their deals that he wants them to cut and stuff
• 1:47
  Speaker 2: like that. So he's apparently told his officials that on
• 1:50
  Speaker 2: all of these trips he wants at least a two
• 1:52
  Speaker 2: hour lunch with the big investment funds. Someone remember just
• 1:56
  Speaker 2: and Radurn and New York met with Black Rock and
• 1:58
  Speaker 2: that bore fruits to New Zealand. They fronted up a
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: bit later with billions of dollars actually in facilities for
• 2:04
  Speaker 2: renewable energy projects and stuff. So he's off to that,
• 2:08
  Speaker 2: and then at the end of the week he will
• 2:10
  Speaker 2: have the political part of his delegation, a meeting with
• 2:14
  Speaker 2: Japan's Prime Minister Formio Kasheda, who's actually i think in
• 2:18
  Speaker 2: Ukraine at the moment for the peace summit. Before he
• 2:20
  Speaker 2: goes back to Japan. And that will be where he
• 2:24
  Speaker 2: focuses more on the kind of relationship, the defense and
• 2:28
  Speaker 2: security relationship with Kasheda and building his own personal relationships
• 2:33
  Speaker 2: with them, which can come in handy it subsequent massive
• 2:36
  Speaker 2: international summits and stuff like that. So a bit of
• 2:39
  Speaker 2: a mix.
• 2:40
  Speaker 3: Clear you mentioned the Ukraine Peace Summit. Mirk Mitchell has
• 2:43
  Speaker 3: been sent to that. I'm presuming that the Prime Minister
• 2:46
  Speaker 3: or our foreign Minister or Minister of Defense hasn't gone
• 2:49
  Speaker 3: because they're unavailable.
• 2:51
  Speaker 2: I assume, so I'm not actually one hundred percent well,
• 2:54
  Speaker 2: I mean Luxon of course said is Japan tripin. I
• 2:57
  Speaker 2: think Winston Peter's only got back yesterday the day before
• 3:00
  Speaker 2: from his Southeast Asia one. I think it was actually
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: the foreign Winston Peters, who are smart natural to go
• 3:07
  Speaker 2: on it. He's not necessarily a bad fit. I think
• 3:11
  Speaker 2: that some people would like to see a more senior
• 3:13
  Speaker 2: minister there, like the Defense or Foreign Affairs or the
• 3:18
  Speaker 2: Prime Minister at that summit. But in terms of picking,
• 3:22
  Speaker 2: he picked map Nature because of his own background. He
• 3:24
  Speaker 2: has been a defense minister in the past, but more
• 3:27
  Speaker 2: socially he was involved in his previous life and kind
• 3:31
  Speaker 2: of logistics in war zones around getting humanitarian aid and
• 3:35
  Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff, so, which is one of
• 3:36
  Speaker 2: the focuses of the Ukraine summit. So because New Zealand's
• 3:40
  Speaker 2: a small country, it's basically Ukraine's attempt to try and
• 3:45
  Speaker 2: get as many international voices as they can behind their
• 3:49
  Speaker 2: own hopes and dreams for a peace plan in that
• 3:52
  Speaker 2: war against Russia and Ukraine. Russia wasn't invited, China has
• 3:57
  Speaker 2: decided not to go, and so they're kind of talking now,
• 4:01
  Speaker 2: I think today or later tonight when they meet, they'll
• 4:04
  Speaker 2: be talking about the logistics of humanitarian aid and all
• 4:07
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. Yesterday was more more general talk
• 4:12
  Speaker 2: and yeah, so Matt Matchell's there, so it's kind of
• 4:15
  Speaker 2: good to have. It's about nineteen ninety countries going. So yeah,
• 4:20
  Speaker 2: there was some pressure here from the Ukrainian community, quite
• 4:24
  Speaker 2: understandably for New Zealand to go. In New Zealand should
• 4:27
  Speaker 2: be there. So he's not necessarily the level of minister
• 4:31
  Speaker 2: that people might have wanted, but nonetheless a relatively appropriate one.
• 4:34
  Speaker 2: So he was supposed to ring me before I came
• 4:37
  Speaker 2: on here, but he hasn't.
• 4:38
  Speaker 4: So I'm sure you'll track him. I'm sure you'll track
• 4:43
  Speaker 4: him down throughout the day. Claire, you're also at the
• 4:46
  Speaker 4: Labor reginal conference today. You're going to be covering Chris
• 4:49
  Speaker 4: Hipkin's speech, which is going to be around eleven fifteen
• 4:52
  Speaker 4: am this morning.
• 4:53
  Speaker 2: What are you expecting, Yes, the last of the regional
• 4:57
  Speaker 2: conferences before they go into the general conference. So this
• 5:01
  Speaker 2: is him talking to the troops while they sought out
• 5:03
  Speaker 2: what they want to talk about at the at the
• 5:06
  Speaker 2: main conference. He he's come straight off the back of
• 5:10
  Speaker 2: Field Days where he issued yet another one of his
• 5:14
  Speaker 2: long trail of sorrows, admitting that Labor had kind of
• 5:19
  Speaker 2: its relationship with the primary sector had soured significantly and
• 5:24
  Speaker 2: he took some flax for that. He's done it before
• 5:27
  Speaker 2: on a number of issues around Labour's promises, around transport
• 5:31
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that, just the stuff that he's kind
• 5:34
  Speaker 2: of in admitting their wrong stage of things before he
• 5:36
  Speaker 2: moves on to what they're going to do next time.
• 5:39
  Speaker 2: Talking to the party base is a lot different from
• 5:42
  Speaker 2: talking to your critics, so he will be hopefully kind
• 5:46
  Speaker 2: of more listening than talking. We're not exactly sure what
• 5:49
  Speaker 2: he's going to talk about and specific, but he is
• 5:52
  Speaker 2: expected to give a slightly different speech to that the
• 5:55
  Speaker 2: one he's delivered in the past. Before they go into that,
• 5:58
  Speaker 2: there's some talk about so the members will all be
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: sorting out what they want to pass and the form
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: of remits at the national conference. There's some talk from
• 6:06
  Speaker 2: the Auckland one that they want to be able to
• 6:09
  Speaker 2: do away with the leader's right to make the so
• 6:11
  Speaker 2: called captain's calls. Whether that one makes it onto the
• 6:15
  Speaker 2: floor will be interesting to see. That was the process
• 6:18
  Speaker 2: set to Sindra do News too. It's not really a process,
• 6:20
  Speaker 2: it's just a political reality means we have to rule
• 6:24
  Speaker 2: out doing this, ruling out the capital gains tax and
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: stuff like that. So there'll be a lot of talk
• 6:28
  Speaker 2: about the kind of text. But it is his home region,
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: so he should have a fairly a pretty friendly audience there.
• 6:35
  Speaker 3: Thanks Claire. Good to catch up with you.
• 6:37
  Speaker 1: For more from News Talk z'b listen live on air
• 6:41
  Speaker 1: or online, and keep our shows with you wherever you
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.