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162: The Cymatics of the Human Voice: Vocal Effects On Your Biology with Maryn Azoff · The Reverse Aging Club with Meredith Oke

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Maren, welcome to the QVC podcast. I am so
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excited for this conversation. Me as well. Thank you so much for
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having me. All right, so as we were just talking
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about our. You know, the audience here is very in tune with
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frequency healing. We sound healing, light healing,
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and I would imagine, from your perspective,
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the. Our own voice would be the starting point
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for all of that. So I would love to hear your perspective
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on the human voice from. From the Quantum world.
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You're 100% right. That's in my world. This is the. We
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go to tuning forks. We go to singing bowls. We go to. To gongs, and
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they all are incredible tools. So nobody is going to
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diminish how important sound healing from outside is.
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But we have a primary tool that we've had since the moment we were born
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that was designed for this purpose. So
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we do have the ability within our own voice to heal our body, to
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manifest our life, to create the world. We're actually creating
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the world by our resonant frequency and how it taps
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into the entire unified field. And our voice moves
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through our entire body to do that. So knowing our
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voice primarily, I think all humans will begin to thrive.
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Wow. I have. I have chills. Could you. Could
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you unpack that a little more? So it
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starts in the moment that you're born? The very first thing we do is
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cry. Typically, there are babies that don't, and they have their
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reasons for that. But for most of us, the first instinct of a human
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is. Is to inhale spirit inspiration or respiration.
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Right. Respiriting the body. Our first act as a
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human, we have to pull our spirit in
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and wake up the intelligence of this form. And we do that through a big
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scream. And what that does is it
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creates resonance through the entire body. If you've ever held a baby
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crying, you know that we use every muscle of the body when
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we're very, very young. And that voice, which is the original
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voice, aligns our spirit with our form and
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wakes up our whole intelligence from
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there. As we get older, our voice becomes manipulated and minimized,
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and we change the way we use all of those muscles. And we only
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send sound through very specific channels. But that original
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voice of us opening our body, if we can return
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to that, if we could actually get back to using our full voice, that way,
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we're sending a resonance signal through different
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layers of frequency that we have. And
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so I guess I'm jumping here, but the. The chakra system,
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which. I'm using the word chakra because that's one lineage's
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way of of talking about it, but really it's your
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nervous system and it's different groups of nerve endings that run up and down the
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body which create electromagnetic fields off of our form.
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Our voice in its totality will awaken and use all of
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those fields. So we're sending out a full
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antenna spectrum of sound, resonance and frequency into
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the quantum, which then will mirror what
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we're sending out so that we live it in reality.
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These are ancient teachings back in the Rig
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Veda. They speak of the human voices unmanifest form
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and how our voice will create the imprint.
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And then from the 5D we'd say, or the scalar
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field, the matching resonances will then create
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physical reality. Yeah.
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Wow. So what's coming to me is we've really,
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a lot of us have kind of, I think internalized the idea that
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our thoughts have a
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huge consequence in our experienced reality.
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And what I'm hearing you saying is that it's not just
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the thought, it's also the, I don't know what
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word to use tone quality of how we
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articulate that, those thoughts out loud. Yeah, I
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actually, I use the word sound signatures. Sound signatures. Beautiful.
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Okay. Like how, how we produce
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the sound from what support muscles and what resonators the sounds
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move through and have a very specific effect on
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how that sound will be responded to out in the world.
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Wow. And yeah, I was mentioning to you off camera
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that I used to do a lot of theater and back in school
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and I remember some of the voice
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coaches talking about, you know, the different ways that we cut off our voice.
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And I just, I have a memory where they brought in some
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professional theater actors and someone came
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out to introduce them and he was like, oh, we're. Here, here are the
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people around. And he said their names. And then these theater actors came
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and they started speaking and like the whole room filled. They had
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no microphone, they had no nothing. And it, and I just was like,
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what is going on? Like their voices were so
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powerful. Yeah. Commanding.
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Yes. Response. Right. Or commanding. There's so
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many different ways that you can look through this. So I. You'll have to ask
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me and lead me in directions because the voice, it's just such
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a multi dimensional thing. We could talk about how
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it works, but what you're speaking about right now is an embodied voice.
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So you're taught when you go to acting school or music school, but
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even this, I would say classical voice is different than
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original voice than what I work with. But we'll, we'll go to
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here when you're learning how to speak in. In acting school, you're
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learning how to breathe your diaphragm down support and then
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send sound specifically through parts of the body to create
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what the emotional resonance of something is. Emotions
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come from deep within. Emotions are something that are inside of us. So when we
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speak through the whole body and is informing
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the voice of what the emotional quality of what we're saying is,
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not just the thought and the concept of it, but where does that live in
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the body and where does that move from? When someone's listening to you,
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they find you right in that space so you immediately
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connect to them. They don't even need to understand your
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language. The word you're saying wouldn't even matter. They would know,
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oh, this is heartbreaking. Oh, this is gut wrenching. Oh,
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this is passionate or this is sad or this is whatever it might
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be. And it comes from the way we move sound
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from our body out into the world, which then connects directly in
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to the receptor that we are. So the human body is a
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transmitter and a receptor of energy. And how
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we transmit that frequency is how any other human
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is going to receive it. So if I come to you
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from my heart when I speak, your heart immediately becomes
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coherent with mine. And now we're in a heart to heart
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conversation. If I come to you from my head,
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we're going to be head to head, right? There's a lot that happens in this
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world that goes that way, right? Yes. My
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gut from down in my body. I'm going to ground you into your
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deepest body. And now you're going to sit and you're going to listen. You're going
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to stay with me because you're going to be in your body because we're my
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voices. And so I don't say this so people
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manipulate the world, although we can with that and many,
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many different careers, like politicians and actors
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and all that are taught how to manipulate sound. My work
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is to get us to authentic voice so that each person can
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actually live their truth, speak their truth and live and like
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have their world be met from their authentic voice.
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Wow, that is so powerful. So I'd love to
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get into some of how to do that, but first
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I'd like to hear your story of how you connected with your voice
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and with this work. Okay, so if I'll
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tell this as quickly. Okay. Because as we were saying, like I've been looking for
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someone who's, who could do like quantum voice work for a long
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time. So I was so delighted to find you because it
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just, I'm like there Must be someone who's made these connections. And here you are.
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So we'd love to hear. Love to hear the journey. It started with
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performance. It started just like you. You said you went to school for this, right?
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They found my voice when I was 5, and I was already
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a singer. Like, I came into the world with the ability to sing. So the
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first time they heard me sing, they were like, wow, she's got talent,
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right? Natural talent. And then they just put me into voice classes. So
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I got classically trained, and I was given the
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dream to become a performer, an entertainer,
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and it served me for a really long time. I decided I went to
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all the schools, I did all the voice works. I learned the music, and I
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did the acting and the voice, like, all this stuff, and I got this training.
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But throughout that entire process, there was a
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deep underpinning of insecurity.
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And I think that in general, when we're young and someone finds a gift or
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a talent and they say immediately, like, you're going to become a professional at
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this, and they go into hyper training you, there's so much competition
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and comparison and rejection and success, right?
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Like, it's both, but they're. It just. You're
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always trying to beat someone else out for the role. You're always in
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this, like, comparative place. So there's a lot of ego
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that gets caught into that. And depending on how strong our ego
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is, how often we could be rejected or not or how often
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we're given the roles, it really affects how we feel about what our
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abilities are here. So meanwhile, I had a. I had
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both. I had success, I had failure. I had all of it. But I. I
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still was in this. Like, I just never felt good
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enough. Even though I was great, I never felt good enough.
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And I think that our schools do. They. They give us
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that. They give us that. There's never enough. There's always the more. There's always
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the next character. There's always the person who you're trying to compare
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yourself to and trying to become the best, right? And that just
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wasn't my world. It just. It didn't work out for. For my soul and for
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who Maren was. It wasn't. There was always a dissonance is what I'd say,
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right? So the talent was there,
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but there was always this underpinning, as I said, of insecurity and
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needing to prove something or those nerves that people get when they
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get up to sing or they get up to perform of like, am I going
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to be good enough? Am I going to mess this up, all that like that.
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For what I say, it shouldn't be there. There's no. Once you actually
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understand what you are and how this thing works, there's no reason to
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evaluate it. We just have to live it right.
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So the. The idea of. For a while, that was
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going on, and then ultimately, I was working with
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this record label when I was 19 years old, and I was in a
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situation that was very. Not creative. I was, like, singing other people's
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songs and doing this for the sake of being famous.
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It was really like, why anybody would get signed to this particular group. We were,
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like, put together to be a harmony group,
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but we weren't creatively in control. We were, like. We, like, auditioned to
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be part of this group. And this idea of being signed to a record label,
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everyone's dream. But while I was living it, it was a nightmare. It just didn't
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feel good. I didn't get. Get. Get along that well with the girls that I
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was paired with. We got along, but it wasn't like, you know, it didn't feel
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like the way it was supposed to feel, I think, to be an artist and
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create. And so I decided that I was just not going to be a singer
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anymore. I decided to quit. My whole life, I had done
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nothing but this. My whole life. And I decided that I wanted to find out
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who I was without being known as the voice,
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because that was how I was known. Like marin's the singer. And I left
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my life. I left everything. I had to figure out who the heck
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I was. And this is young. I'm 19 years old, but I just. Wow. Yeah,
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that's early to do. To do the big pivot.
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Soul level. I know that there's something else I'm here for,
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but at a teenage. At that time, that's not what marin's
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thinking. She's just thinking she's unhappy and she's, you know, whatever. Not.
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Not satisfied. But at the same time, at a soul level, what I
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come to understand now Is that what was driving me Knew that I had a
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different destiny. So I quit everything and didn't know who
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I was supposed to be. And a very long story short, I end
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up traveling to the other side of the world to find myself. So I get
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to australia to try to figure out who I'm supposed to be in this world.
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So I had to, like, separate myself from everyone who already had a design on
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who marin's gonna be to people who nobody knew me. And I had to, like,
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find out parts of myself. And when I got there,
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I ended up on an ashram
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with that. That someone that I had met there brought me to, where they did
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this fire ritual called Agnihotra. I don't know if you've
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ever heard of this, but it's a Vedic fire ritual where
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in a copper pot, a copper pyramid with cow
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dung and brown rice and ghee, you chant these mantras over this
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pot. So this was in a
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place called Cessnook in Australia, where there was. In 35
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years of drought, and there was all this farmland that was
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dry and cracked, and you couldn't. Couldn't grow anything on it. But
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this ashram that we were on was plentiful.
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It had fruit trees and gardens growing massive like
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beetroots and kale. And like, it was. It was just abundant.
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And there were all these water limitations because of the drought, so there
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was legal water limitations. And they weren't watering anything more than
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anybody else. What they were doing instead was they were chanting these mantras
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over these copper pyramids and then putting the ash on the
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ground that were full of this frequency. And it was
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creating this whole conversation with Earth that seemed almost
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impossible. And so I.
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That's so cool. That was my first taste of
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what you're talking about here with the voice being part of the quantum
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connection and how resonance that moves from us
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feeds the soil, feeds the whole biosphere
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that's around you. And how even now we could
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say people, there's science around this. Like the frequencies that help plants
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grow. Plants grow best to Bach. Certain
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sounds, right. But people who tend to plants, I don't know if you
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do. I sing to my plants all the time, and because of that, they are
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growing beautifully. They live so well. It's like they want to
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be spoken to and sung to. And the resonance there, that connection
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makes such a difference. Right? Bright. So anyway, back here, I saw
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it for the first time, and I stayed on that ashram. And the. The things
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that started changing in me, my eyesight improved, my. My overall
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health improved. There was all of this shifting in myself
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from this mantra. And I had this moment of realizing
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the voice is not performative. It's not for
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entertainment. Like, yes, it's joy inducing for sure.
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It increases serotonin, it increases dopamine, it
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oxytocin, like all of our bliss chemicals when we sing
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are lit. And so, yes, it is for that. That enlightening and
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that joy, but it's not for attention and it's not for, like,
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seeking validation and all of those things. Our voice is
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creative, our Voice literally
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creates the physical world. So then as
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I started looking into it, I saw, you know, in these ancient texts,
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they speak about this, that the human voice is unmanifest form, as you already
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heard me say, and that the sou that moves through this body
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actually goes through the fifth chakra, which is the center of
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manifestation, and it moves this resonance
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through the entire form. If you look at the chakra system, we
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have earth at the bottom, we have water at the
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second, we have fire at the third, we have air at the
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fourth. Fifth is ether, sixth is space.
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So the ether is the element that we don't get taught in the
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West, Right? Well, it's been taught on this
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podcast. So our audience is all down with the ether.
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Imagine that your voice is a tool that takes all
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those other elements, moving sound,
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resonance through them, out through the ether, and then
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culminating or conjuring is a word. I use all of those
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elements to become what you physically
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get to experience out there. Right. And this is our
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life. Wow. Could you say that one more
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time? When you use your totality of your
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voice, you're going to breathe and you're going to root down
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into the whole body. So sound gets produced through the
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entire body, which means that you're. You're
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activating earth, water,
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fire, air, and that's all moving through the
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ether and the space, which is our
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mind. When you talk, we said our thoughts are so
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important. Right. The mind here or the head, the third eye
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is the. What kind of visionary, like, what kind of space can
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you create to see that manifestation to
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actually happen? So our mind being open is
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everything, and our mind being able to be expansive enough to
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allow to hold space for all those elements to then
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create what you're moving through your throat chakra. When
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you're. When you move sound through the whole body, out of the throat, you're
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then calling or conjuring all of these elements to come together
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to create into what we call physical reality
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that which we are expressing out.
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Wow. Absolute magic. Absolute
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magic. That every one of us
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possesses that we all have access to. Right, then.
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This isn't about having a specific talent as an
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actor or a singer. This is our inherent.
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This is what our biology is meant to be doing.
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Yes. So what
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happens along the way that
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stops us from having our. The full expression
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of our sound signature. The
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outside world, other people's creations,
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because we are the creator, but we are first informed
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by what the others who have come before us have created.
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We have this. False, very false. In
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the. In my experience, a depiction of that our
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eye, we call this the third eye here at the. At the middle there.
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And we say that this would be I1 and I2 are two seeing eyes.
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And then our third eye is there. But what actually exists is that our first
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eye is our pineal gland. We are visionaries here
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to create the world. And our second and third eye get to then
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witness our creation. But when we're younger,
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we're being informed by the world that's already been created that we enter.
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So we look through I1 and I2 and see reality,
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and then say, okay, how do I think about and
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restructure and create from the reality that exists? And
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for a lot of us, that means we're going to limit our potential.
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So the depending. I mean, in my work, it's heartbreaking,
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but the first time most people open their mouth to sing,
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someone around them tells them that they're not good or to shut up. Or now
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like, shh. Or obviously you can't sing or whatever it might be.
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And I've heard story after story about this. But even if we go without
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singing before that, one big yell
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that your parents say no in any kind of a harsh way
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creates a nervous system response from something that's naturally
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moving from us to. And tightens
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that muscle or tightens that up. The next time we go to
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express ourselves, we're going to have to move through something that
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contracted, so we're going to have to really
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push through. And the more and more and more that happens, the more and more
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contracted we become. So, yes, the vocal cords work
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even with very little muscle support. Our breath can move into our
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lung and we can make some sound through the vocal cord, but we lose the
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capacity to breathe down all the way to our body and support from the
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root all the way up. So what you get then, if we're looking at
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that system of elements, is we're not accessing earth,
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which is shakti, that creates physical reality.
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We're not accessing water, which is the ability to move our emotions,
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energy in motions, right? And emotion moves
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particles. So if we aren't moving our emotions,
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we're not moving as much particle as we could be moving to create
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some shift in our life. And then we're not firing that
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out into the world to catalyze it into creation.
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Instead, what we get is some air, which is enough to just
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support some vibrational sound here, and a thought process which is
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very limited, right? Because we're not actually in this body,
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activating the full intelligence of what we are.
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So we're Limited to what we can create. We could still think and dream and
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all of that, but we can't manifest it because you can't
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manifest life without that earth and that water and
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that fire. That's how physical world exists. Right? We've got
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the soil, we've got the water, and we've got the sun that
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activate all the physical life that we get to live. And
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then we get our dream that we get to make physical.
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But we get. We get condensed and we get stifled and
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we get. Corseted is the word I actually use. Like, we get tight
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to living these dreams. Like, we still have these ideas, but we
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don't have the embodiment energy to actually create that into physical
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form.
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This. This makes so much sense.
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So what do you see when you
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support people to access their full sound
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signature? Like, it's not, you know. You know, I'm
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like, oh, I. I need to learn some breathing techniques because sometimes when I'm doing
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a podcast, my voice tightens. Right. But that's just a very,
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what you're saying, like a very surface level. You're
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talking about accessing something much deeper. And so how I would imagine you
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people's lives transform way beyond just how their voice sounds.
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Vocal transformation. You can
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rebirth yourself whenever you're ready. To every one of us,
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I always. The Buddha. The Buddha. Every day, we are born again. It
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is what we do today that matters most. It is what we do today
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that matters most. It is what we do today that
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materializes the most. But we are all carrying around
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the story of who we think we are. And we're carrying that around
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not just in our concepts, we're carrying that around in our fascia, in our water,
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in our body, in our cells. So I can decide to change my
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mind, fine. I can convince myself with affirmation that that is
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not. But still, the physical form reacts to
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the world the way that it's holding memory. So our primary
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release has to be somatic. We have to get the
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cells to vibrate differently. And our
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voice, if you've seen any cymatics, you know, any work of
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putting sand on a. On a plate or water in a singing bowl, the
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cymatics that get created, our own voice does that to every drop
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of water inside of our own cellular structure. So when we start to do
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voice work, we're literally expressing the
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past out so that the water can
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build a whole new self. What I help people with is
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profound life changes. I mean, I can honestly tell you that there
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is nothing anybody listening what you think might be
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10 PhDs away from you or another person's
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life. We're talking about quantum here. We're not talking about a time
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space reality. We're talking about things that can change on a
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dime whenever you're ready to shift the frequency that
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you're carrying. I have watched marriages that were done
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re completely fall in love again. I have watched women who are infertile
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have babies. I have watched people who are hundreds of
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thousands of dollars in debt get completely out of that and become their
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own success millionaires. Like I've watched. I have watched
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health. I've watched heart disease reverse itself. I have watched so
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many things go down, it's unbelievable. But
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that's why I dedicate my entire life to it. I can tell you there is
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nothing that a human cannot reverse
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once we decide to change that imprint. And we could say, oh
32:04
yeah, it's years and years and years. It's even epigenetics, Right.
32:08
But there's study around epigenetics too. And so the
32:12
epigene is a protein sheath that is
32:16
around the DNA code. And it's literally
32:19
depicting what part of our DNA expresses and
32:23
doesn't express. And cortisol and adrenaline and all those
32:26
stress hormones create that epigene to activate those parts of
32:30
us. But all the other stuff that I mentioned already. Dopamine,
32:33
serotonin, oxytocin. When you're in a bliss state,
32:37
the whole epigene can transform and different parts of your genetics will
32:41
start to come out. So when I look at the human
32:44
DNA, the epigene is
32:48
0.01% of our DNA makeup.
32:51
Every single human has access to
32:53
99.99% of DNA that
32:57
is not the way ours is currently expressing. And
33:01
we can change the way we express our DNA just by shifting how that
33:04
epigene moves. And the voice has the
33:08
power to relieve all of the
33:12
stressor hormones that create that continual epigenet expression
33:15
and shift how that moves so that you can actually get other
33:19
aspects of you to start to show up.
33:23
Right. Yeah. No, this, this
33:27
is, this is so good because, yeah, we, we
33:30
talk a lot, you know, in this corner of the world about
33:34
grounding being in natural sunlight,
33:37
honoring the light and dark cycles of nature,
33:43
because we are filled with liquid crystal
33:47
that is being, you know, charged by that
33:51
cycle. And we really understand, yeah,
33:55
that we've been imprinted and we're holding on to
33:59
whatever past traumas or belief systems that have come our
34:02
way dealing with material reality. And so
34:06
what I'm hearing you say is that the voice
34:10
Is like the unlock
34:14
for all of that. Yes. And we just
34:17
have it here, sitting here right inside of us.
34:22
And we were shushed. I mean, we were pacified. We were told
34:26
in this world, we are told not to express ourselves
34:30
authentically because when we're very, very young, it looks like temper tantrums.
34:33
You're crying loud, you're crying in the middle of the night. And like all these
34:36
times where your parents need you to be quiet, or you're teachers
34:40
in school need you to be quiet, or your priests or your rabbis need you
34:43
to be quiet, like everyone, we're taught to keep what our natural
34:47
expressive thing is in. But that is our
34:51
original intelligence. We express it, we move it out, and we
34:55
have a reset. If we don't move it out,
34:58
we don't get a reset. We get the repetition of the exact same thing again
35:02
and again and again. So now we're looking at layers and layers
35:06
of conversation that have been going on internally and that we have not
35:10
been allowed to just simply like what we knew when we were babies. We just
35:13
went.
35:17
It was done. We didn't hold grudges, we didn't have
35:21
resentments, we didn't have these stories. We just cried it out
35:25
and we moved on. Next. That's what we did when we were very, very
35:29
young. But once they tell us we're not allowed to express that
35:33
we now have that living inside. So the next time someone does something similar to
35:37
what we didn't get to move past, it just makes it worse.
35:41
Gets thicker, gets deeper. Right. So
35:45
as simple as expressing it out, as simple as something like a primal scream,
35:49
which I take people through a lot, just getting
35:52
out. And then there's space. And from space, you can
35:56
actually make a choice of how you want to move forward,
36:00
of how you want to think about something. But if you don't get it out,
36:03
you're just going to keep thinking about it and feeling about it the same way
36:06
you've always thought about it and felt about it. There's no room for change. Change
36:10
where there is not space. Right. So we have to create the
36:14
space internally. And the voice helps you express that all
36:17
out so that you actually have reflection in space.
36:22
And then you can make a better choice moving forward.
36:26
So is that where the. The vocal transformation
36:31
would start for most people is it is accessing
36:34
the expression? Yeah. So the
36:38
framework of what I do, there's many different ways that this work
36:42
moves, but I'd call it the fundamentals of what I do is a chanting
36:45
practice that moves from the root chakra. Up through the crown.
36:49
So very basic yoga technique, the Bija mantra is the seed sounds.
36:54
But one way, the way that I teach it, that I haven't seen it taught
36:56
elsewhere, and if anyone out there is teaching it that way, please come find me
37:00
because I want to compare notes, is that there's a way to
37:03
support them that I, in my yoga teacher trainings, was never
37:07
taught. So it's not just a simple like repeating
37:11
of a sound. It's where in the body it's placed, it's how it's supported in
37:15
there. And you're actually opening up the physical aspect of that
37:18
part of the body. So layer by layer, from the
37:22
time we're conceived until who you are now, all this stuff is stored
37:26
inside. And it's all getting in the way of your ability to
37:30
plug into the quantum field in the way that you want to,
37:34
that one wants to. And instead what we plug in with is all of the
37:38
unprocessed things that are standing in the way of the person that we want to
37:41
create now. So you start with a chanting practice. It takes nine
37:45
months to do the first phase of it, which is the exact amount of time
37:48
it took to be born originally. You can use your
37:52
voice or working with your voice, you can rebirth your entire system. System.
37:56
And by going through each chakra for 40 days, you
37:59
can begin to open the energy field,
38:03
see what's still sitting in there, see what's needs to go
38:07
and what is maybe undercharged and needs to amp up. And
38:11
you begin to wake up these wheels of energy and get
38:14
yourself into your correct alignment, which then you just
38:18
see the whole process. The physical world starts to change around you.
38:22
Your health improves, all of your habits start
38:26
to change. And the reason why that happens is because a chanting practice
38:30
increases alpha brainwave state. So
38:34
your voice, when it's used in its totality,
38:38
requires your diaphragm to move down. When it does
38:41
that, it's going to press into your gut. Your gut is your
38:45
instinctual center. It's going to open up
38:49
the area of the heart simultaneously, which is your emotional
38:52
center. And as you move the sound through all those resonators, it's going to
38:56
increase brain alpha brainwave in your gray matter,
38:59
which is going to increase your, your mind's ability to
39:03
make new brain pathways. So your neuroplasticity
39:07
increases. And when you're actually doing a chanting practice,
39:11
you're creating an open field where all of these
39:14
intelligences are working together congruently.
39:19
Most humans function very heavily one way or the other.
39:23
I'd say most of us are headstrong. Yeah. Some of us are, though.
39:27
Highly. Like someone who's physically highly challenged will
39:31
be. You know, their gut keeps them in fear of like, a world that will
39:34
harm them. Someone who emotionally has been damaged a lot has a heart
39:38
that closes off and prevents connection at an emotional level.
39:42
Right. That's normally where the. The brain or the head
39:46
has to cope. Like tons of coping mechanisms and. And
39:49
strategy and logic. So we need to become a
39:53
completely congruent vessel. All three of these brains
39:57
are as important as each other. So we need to take it out
40:01
of the head and give some of it back to the body. And when you're
40:03
chanting or singing or using your voice in this way, in
40:07
this original way, all three of those brains will be
40:10
congruent. So you get to reset the system. You get
40:14
everything to come back into your most. Your highest levels of intelligence.
40:19
Wow. Okay. Yeah. And so it's like the, the
40:23
sound. It's funny. My voice feels
40:27
better talking to you than it did than it
40:31
normally does. Usually I can feel like the more I talk, I. It
40:34
starts to get tired and close up. And now I'm like, oh, so here
40:38
I'm picking up your. Your vibes, Marin.
40:43
So it sounds like the. The. The voice is.
40:47
Is clearing the field and also like a kind of
40:51
internal. Almost the way you
40:54
described it with the muscles that the sound is.
40:58
Is having like a physical impact on. On
41:02
our biology. Yes. So you're.
41:05
There's a couple of reasons. It has to do with the way the muscles work.
41:09
The. The average human is sucking everything
41:13
in all the time. We're so used to, like, holding in our stomachs. Holding
41:17
look good. And to also just learning how to hold back
41:21
what's really in there has created this wall and this kind of
41:24
coarsening, as I said before. So when you do this voice work, you're actually
41:28
working muscles in a very different way. You're. You're
41:31
opening what we've become so tight around
41:35
so your organs get more room to move.
41:39
Your breath changes as that diaphragm drops
41:43
so that your. Your whole system is detoxifying itself.
41:47
It's incredible. Most people don't breathe correctly. We walk
41:51
around breathing in a coping breath. We do not breathe the way we were designed
41:54
to breathe. So when we do voice work, it retrains
41:58
the breath. Now if I were to say, like, take a deep
42:02
breath. Right. See, some people would breathe
42:06
up into their shoulders. This is how we breathe. But this is not
42:10
the way we're designed to breathe. As I'M sure you know, but the. This is
42:13
feeding the head. And this has all come down to us bringing
42:17
prana to the head, bringing our life force up. We're designed to breathe
42:21
diaphragm down, and the bellies comes out and the waist
42:24
comes out, and the low back even expands, and the root of the body
42:28
drops to the earth. Our breath, every time we
42:31
breathe is a way that our soul and our spirit takes our body and
42:35
claims it. And when we breathe that way, our
42:38
whole nervous system goes into parasympathetic.
42:43
Our whole body says, okay, I'm here. And all this
42:46
intelligence from the root to the crown and back is functioning together.
42:51
But when we breathe up, we're breathing into the upper lung,
42:55
which sends a signal to the body that we're stressed and our sympathetic
42:58
nervous system takes over. So the vast majority of people that
43:02
I work with start with a sympathetic nervous system breath.
43:06
So just that alone, to support sound, we need to breathe the diaphragm
43:09
down and then activate muscle in a way that
43:13
supports that diaphragm to stay down and then
43:18
really controls how fast it returns to its original point.
43:22
So once we actually train our voice down, our
43:26
whole breath will, after I say about 90 days, takes about three months
43:30
for somebody who breathes up to be switched into a
43:33
downward breath. That in itself will change a human life.
43:38
That in itself will create a whole different level of energy
43:41
and vitality. Your bowels function differently, your heart is
43:45
different. Everything about your life, like the number of people three months
43:49
into working with me that are like, I don't understand. I'm actually present.
43:53
I'm here, I'm in the world because the breath is in the body.
43:57
And that's the way we're designed with every single breath. So those
44:00
people who do know how to breathe with their diaphragm, who maybe do breath
44:04
work or take yoga classes or have worked with somebody who's taught them that
44:08
still, when I work with them and I say, take a deep breath, they'll breathe
44:12
down. But if I ask them if they breathe that way all the time,
44:16
they'll say no. When I concentrate on it,
44:19
yes. So you. You know how to move the diaphragm, but it's
44:23
not the way you're breathing every day. And so for that, you're surviving, you're not
44:27
thriving. And once we get that breath locked
44:31
in, because when I. When we talk about voice work, the
44:34
voice is the voice is the voice. So whether you're speaking,
44:38
singing, chanting, screaming, whispering, any way you use
44:41
your voice, the muscles are Always all the same.
44:47
So anybody who looks at me and says, like, I can speak, but I can't
44:50
sing, like, no, that is not true. The difference
44:54
between speaking and singing is just sustain. When I
44:57
speak, I use all the same muscles which keeps my
45:01
voice in my body. The same resonators are being activated, which means
45:05
that when I speak, I'll be moving through my emotional centers and
45:09
through my, like, embodied sense self. You'll. You're going to meet me
45:13
and my real vibrational frequency. And then when I
45:16
sing, I just have to sustain that note
45:20
a little more. That's all. The
45:24
only difference is that I'm going to use that muscle a little bit more so
45:27
that I hold a tone longer than I have to when I'm speaking.
45:33
But we immediately in our brain say, I'm not a singer.
45:37
Yeah, no, that's. I say that all the time. Everyone,
45:42
mark my words, everyone can sing. If you have pitch problems,
45:46
it's probably because you're not in your circadian rhythm. You're not
45:49
really listening from your body to what sound is coming to you.
45:53
You're listening through your ears and you already have a thought process that
45:57
says, I don't hear pitch. Well, so you don't actually hear the pitch.
46:01
You hear a pitch coming through thought layers that you can't even track.
46:05
Right. Actually get in the body and feel
46:09
a sound. We can replicate that sound and every human
46:12
can get to that place. They just might have to work a little harder than
46:15
others. Wow.
46:19
So you. Did you just say that there's a connection between pitch and
46:22
circadian rhythm? Potentially, yeah. What
46:26
is. Say more because we're
46:30
not. We're not in our body and we're not connected to
46:34
the. The resonance of the Earth, the Schumann resonance, you
46:37
know, the resonance of the planet. Her own heartbeat that matches our own
46:41
heartbeat. So when we are living in a lot of
46:44
artificiality and when we are not sleeping well and when we are, you know,
46:48
running on all these different coping mechanisms that we have in our body,
46:52
they're all just layers of distortion in our field.
46:56
So when a tone comes at you, you can't
47:00
be with that sound. There's too much
47:03
distortion. So our job is to get the
47:06
distortion cleared. We have to get to the
47:10
present. We have to be in a nervous system that's grounded
47:14
and we have to be open to receive that sound. We do not just hear
47:17
sound through our ears, we hear it through every bit of our body.
47:21
Our whole body is a receiver. So when we only hear with
47:25
our ears or when we only. When we think with our heads, right? And we
47:29
hear a sound through our head and we're not in the
47:32
resonance of everything. It's much easier to not be able to hear
47:36
pitch correctly or to not be able to iterate pitch
47:40
correctly. You can hear it, but you can't, you
47:44
can't hold it because you're not actually in the body. And those pitches
47:47
are made from the whole form, not just from a vocal
47:51
cord in the head. It's. That's made from the whole body.
47:55
Right? Would
47:59
that translate out from pitch as well to
48:03
say, a person's ability to receive
48:07
affection or support? Of course.
48:11
It's all the same thing. Everything is sound. If
48:15
you haven't heard that one yet out there, if you don't realize this,
48:19
everything is making sound. Just because our
48:23
senses are not able to pick up certain frequencies
48:27
and really we pick up a tiny amount of what's really going on in
48:31
this planet. Just because we are not
48:34
sensorily plugged in to pick it up at a certain hertz
48:38
or a certain frequency doesn't mean it's not vibrating and it's not
48:41
making sound. It's just not making sound within our auditory ability to hear
48:45
it because. But our body still feels it. And that information
48:49
that's happening here that we're not consciously aware
48:53
of, is still informing everything. So when you're
48:57
in someone's auric field, their heartbeat, the
49:01
way their pulse is moving and their breath and everything, all of that
49:05
is your body's being informed by when they're close to you. And your
49:08
ability to receive that and to be open and even share that.
49:12
This is all heart chakra stuff, like your ability to, to give
49:16
and to receive must be imbalance. But when the
49:19
head is protecting or when we're closed off in these ways, we, we can't
49:23
receive it. So we're basically.
49:27
I, I'd say the human race is basically in a,
49:31
in a challenge or what Our true test is how, how open can we stay?
49:35
How much space can we contain? How much room can we make for all
49:38
opinions, for all ways of being? How, how
49:42
much can, can we feel
49:46
when we see a world where so much is painful? We're in a
49:50
world right now where we lose track of just how pleasurable it
49:54
actually is as well. And we focus on how painful it is. And
49:58
we keep reiterating like the pain
50:01
we see with the way that we're treating each other in the world,
50:05
we're actually getting numb feeling because
50:09
it's too much to feel. But the greatest
50:13
of art is made by those who can feel it
50:16
all. And so our great
50:20
test, I think, is to not close this, not close
50:24
down is to keep sharing who we are and
50:27
to allow others to be received and share who they are. And
50:31
when we can open up that conversation, we realize
50:35
that we don't have to hold all the pain of the world. It's not our
50:38
job. The pain of the world moves through us. It moves out of us.
50:41
It comes in, it goes out. And so does all the joy and all the
50:45
pleasure and all the beauty. It's not only pain here, it's
50:48
everything. But we don't want to feel the
50:52
bad stuff, what we call the bad stuff. And we shut that
50:56
down, and we could take that to the voice. The reason why people do not
51:00
mostly share is because
51:04
maybe they weren't great the first time they sang. They didn't
51:08
compare to who their favorite artists were, so they think they're bad. They
51:12
don't want to feel bad, so they don't try
51:16
or they experience
51:19
somebody outside making them feel bad about what they
51:23
just shared. Whether that's a singing voice or whether that's my truth, like,
51:26
this is how I feel. And someone said, nope, how you feel is not allowed.
51:30
How you feel is wrong. Once we feel the pain
51:35
of not being received, we start to shut it down and say,
51:38
I don't want to feel that pain anymore, so I'll stop sharing.
51:43
Instead of. They just are limited to what they can
51:46
receive. But what's happening through me is the absolute truth.
51:51
So let me be the truth, regardless of what
51:55
other people's responses are to it. And then once I have
51:59
it expressed into the world, it empowers me to keep on
52:02
growing. And I think that. I think that
52:06
a lot of us are stuck. We're just stuck.
52:10
And expression is the key out. The voice is the key out. Once
52:13
we. And we knew it from infants, from babies. Once we express it,
52:17
it's not in us anymore, and we can move forward,
52:21
but we are holding too much of it in. So we stop. We just
52:24
numb. We just stop feeling. And the thing with
52:28
life is that the less you allow yourself to feel, the less you will
52:32
allow in. You can't change. You can't
52:35
manifest your life. You can't. Yeah.
52:39
You can't connect to everything that is. When you won't allow
52:43
everything that is to be. When you have it on your
52:46
tiny little terms, you'll get life on your tiny little
52:50
terms. Why? Because we are the creator
52:54
of this reality. Every one of us gets to live this life here.
52:57
Like I Think that the human birth is the golden ticket. I tell
53:01
everyone all the time, we think that this earth is so difficult
53:05
and so painful. And we see, we keep telling that story and we keep creating
53:09
that truth. But we really got the golden ticket. The
53:12
guts, the instincts, the emotions and the cognitive,
53:16
intellectual. And we have the ability to make the
53:20
world like to create whatever we could dream
53:23
into existence. So what are we
53:27
dreaming? And why do we keep creating the
53:31
dream of war and dissonance and turmoil and
53:35
lack and all those things like that? It does not
53:39
only exist here, it exists here if that's what you dream. But
53:43
so does the total opposite exist here.
53:46
So we have to decide who we are and
53:50
who we want to be here and what we're willing to put out. But
53:54
the world does not just give it to you. It doesn't.
53:58
Well, and it feels like, like such a risk.
54:02
I work with a lot of people and I've been working with myself,
54:06
obviously, right. And it's like we'll build the dream and build the vision
54:09
and gain the knowledge and a lot of us get stuck
54:13
just like study more and study more. I don't know enough yet,
54:17
I don't know enough yet to go out into the world. And
54:21
it's the moment where it's time to take a step
54:25
and be seen and be expressed.
54:29
I'm a new health coach and I'd love to work with people who need
54:33
help with their digestion and
54:38
a freeze point for so many of us. And then
54:41
we may or may not work for it, but then there's always more and more.
54:44
So I'm hearing you saying, like we. You're helping
54:48
us to create a sense of safety
54:51
within our own selves with our. The tools
54:55
that we were born with so that
55:00
that risk doesn't feel impossible. All
55:05
yes, you will. You will resonate. The world will bring you what you
55:09
are. So if you're full of fear,
55:12
you'll meet people who will see your fear and they will not come to you
55:16
because they'll be afraid to come to you. Right.
55:20
What the voice work will do was, is it will reset your nervous system and
55:23
it will build your confidence, which I say is
55:27
primordial. The confidence comes with the body itself.
55:31
There is nobody out there that can break your confidence. There is
55:34
nobody out there that gives you your confidence. Either
55:38
people can support you and put wind under those wings. And if
55:42
you're fortunate, people will see your gifts right off
55:46
the bat and will start to, to help you. But that's not
55:50
the case of everybody. Some people Write such underdog stories where
55:53
no nobody around them supports them. And they have to
55:57
prove to themselves as a soul to this world,
56:01
that even if nobody sees it, I am it,
56:06
right? And there's the confidence. It comes with the birth.
56:10
The fact. The mere fact that you were given a body, that you were given
56:13
your heart, that you were given the dream and the visions that you have. The
56:17
mere fact that that even exists is enough for every one of us to have
56:21
confidence in who we are. But our society did not
56:24
give us that confidence. Our society is an ego
56:28
driven society that taught us again, like I said from the beginning, to
56:31
compare and to compete and to be jealous and envious,
56:35
to want what others have. And we, we look outside of ourselves
56:39
for some level of validation that is unnecessary.
56:43
We already are it. When we do
56:47
this voice work, we reclaim all of that it ness. And
56:51
then we get share it. And you know, there are people who would look at
56:54
me and say, maren, you're crazy. I'll never do that work with you. And there
56:58
are people who say, okay, I feel this off you and I want what you're
57:01
talking about. Let's go, right? What I know is that this
57:05
works. So I will show up and give it to
57:09
anybody who's ready because it works. So to these
57:12
healthcare for these people, you're talking about if you know
57:17
that certain supplements, that certain breath practices, that certain
57:20
psychological whatever it might be that you need to help your digestive system,
57:24
if you know that it could benefit another person,
57:29
even if you only know the first two pages of the book, but you know
57:32
that if you give them the first two pages, they will begin to
57:36
have healthier bowel movements and a clearer state of mind, which of course
57:39
they're interlinked, right? Why would you not put that out
57:43
there? You're helping
57:47
somebody else. And this is the biggest thing.
57:50
Our voice is our contribution to the world.
57:54
It's not about us. I ask people all the time,
57:58
whose voice do you think it is?
58:02
It is a mixture. It is nothing more and nothing less than the
58:06
planet which is the body that you're in and the soul that
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came to incarnate. My soul's not named
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Marin. Marin is the personality construct that I
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developed to navigate the world, right? And the name that my parents
58:20
gave me. My soul came in with a
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purpose. It came in with a contribution that then
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activates the body. And these two things will make
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something happen here in life, right? Whatever that might be. So
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when we deal with voice work, or when we're looking at our voice it's our
58:38
soul's dynamic life urge for truthful
58:41
expression. What is your truth?
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Your soul's truth? We have to get beyond the person
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that was created by an ego driven world that we
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were taught to protect. This ego, God forbid
58:57
anybody tells me I'm wrong. I've been told I'm wrong so many times
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now that I'm like, okay, okay, I'll be wrong, I'll die wrong.
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But at the same time, people who've shown up for this and do this work
59:08
with me, they see what it does and I'm not the one doing this for
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them. They do it for themselves. They show up, I show them
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how to do it. They have to do it. I cannot heal you.
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You have to heal you. But your voice, your own voice and this work will
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do it. So when you're dealing with someone who like what
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you're saying, people who say, I'm new out the gate, I don't know enough, I
59:30
have more to do. All I would say is, what can you do to
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help somebody today and
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find people who need that help? And whether or not you're
59:40
perfect, it doesn't matter. I'm not a perfect person. Nobody's a perfect person. Like, we're
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all still on this incredible evolutionary track that hopefully we're all
59:48
going to be evolving until we're not here anymore. So there's always room
59:52
for growth and all of that. But if
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you're scared to share, that's all people are gonna
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feel like. When I'm talking about singing,
1:00:03
when I see people start to sing and they're nervous, they're scared to sing,
1:00:08
the first thing happens is that they don't breathe.
1:00:11
They're in their head, their heart is pounding, their tongue is numb, it's moving.
1:00:15
And they just like get the song, the first lyric in and they just like
1:00:18
jump out of the gate. And you can feel that they're nervous, right? So
1:00:22
the whole audience knows they're scared. And what, and what happens?
1:00:26
The audience is scared. We're
1:00:30
nervous for the person we're not in the song. We're
1:00:33
in the nerves that we're looking at and it's making us nervous, right?
1:00:38
So our number one responsibility is to
1:00:42
be what we are, become the song. I always tell anybody who's
1:00:45
listening who sings that three count breath at the beginning of a song is
1:00:49
everything. If you're scared to sing, wait until you're not
1:00:52
before you start to sing. If an audience has to wait
1:00:56
a while to watch you, until you're ready to breathe
1:01:02
and actually Sing the song without it being about you singing.
1:01:06
Instead, you actually become the song. It's worth the
1:01:09
wait. We'll wait five minutes, we'll sit there and be like, I wonder why we're
1:01:13
waiting. But when you actually come out the gate
1:01:16
from the embodied place of singing the song, that's why
1:01:20
we sing. We sing to move
1:01:24
emotion. We sing to tell a story. We sing
1:01:27
to share something authentically. But when there's too much
1:01:31
I in the way of all of that, that's what you get.
1:01:35
You get. I. You get even. Some of the greatest artists
1:01:39
that we know, they're just doing vocal gymnastics. They're not really making you feel
1:01:42
anything. They're just showing you how great they are. Right.
1:01:46
But what about, like, becoming the song?
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That's what we're true. Art is born. That's where. That's why
1:01:53
we share. We don't. We're not the singer. We're the
1:01:57
song. So back to life. Let's take
1:02:01
it out of that music. You're not the person
1:02:04
who's teaching someone how to get a healthy body, how to get a healthy
1:02:08
gastrointestinal system. Right. You are the. The
1:02:11
message itself. You are the teaching itself of, like, here,
1:02:15
you need help. This is how you get your help. I'm here to share
1:02:19
with you the information. I'm not here to share with you, me.
1:02:24
And the faster we can get. Get to that, I think
1:02:29
just the more clients you're going to get.
1:02:33
Whether or not she becomes successful, this is about, how can
1:02:37
she actually serve the world, or he served the world.
1:02:42
And the more we can align ourselves with that, the easier it is to share
1:02:45
what's going on. Yes. Because
1:02:48
all of these. All of these choices that we make are really just
1:02:53
spiritual growth exercises.
1:03:00
It feels like, oh, I. I have to, you know, learn how
1:03:04
to record something and put it on the Internet. It's a spiritual growth
1:03:08
exercise, and you are giving us
1:03:11
a profoundly overlooked tool. Yes.
1:03:17
So do you want to feel very quickly? I'm not sure how much. Yeah. Want
1:03:20
to feel really quickly what it's like differently.
1:03:24
Yeah. As I was saying just before about the singer, like, the throat gets
1:03:28
tight and the tongue goes numb and the heartbeat starts to race. And when that
1:03:31
happens, the first thing that happens is the breath moves up
1:03:35
to that breath we were talking about before. So you
1:03:39
up here. Yeah. You're losing lyrics. You start like, your
1:03:43
head's just got you right. So the key. And I, like, feel my
1:03:47
throat tighten. Right. Especially if I have to. If
1:03:50
I'm, like, giving a presentation it's like the first 10 minutes it's like flood. And
1:03:54
then the longer I talk it's like. And I can like, oh, there it goes.
1:03:58
I don't know why, but I'm probably, I'm not breathing. Okay.
1:04:01
The breath and then also the head. When the head takes the voice,
1:04:06
the throat closes up towards the head.
1:04:10
When the heart takes the voice, the throat opens down towards
1:04:13
the heart. So we always want
1:04:17
the voice to move through the heart which
1:04:21
is the largest resonator. Our sound mostly comes from
1:04:24
down in here and moves through here up to the
1:04:28
head so we get to those higher notes of our range. So we want the
1:04:32
impetus of our voice or the way it moves to be a downward breath and
1:04:36
a downward support to let sound come through the chest. So let's just take our
1:04:40
hands on the waist and take a breath
1:04:44
into the waist. So feel your breath
1:04:47
come down and the waist go wide and the strength there. Can you
1:04:51
feel that strength? Yeah. Okay, let's exhale that.
1:04:56
Let's do it again. And I want you to feel what's happening as you do
1:04:59
that with your whole throat area and your whole upper chest. So breathe into the
1:05:03
waist and
1:05:06
see if you could feel the expansion. So the chest
1:05:10
feels like it expands, but the sides of the throat also get wider.
1:05:14
Can you feel that? Yeah. Okay, so let's do that
1:05:18
one more time. Breathe in and fill that up.
1:05:23
Feel that with. And now suck your stomach in
1:05:27
and feel what happens instead.
1:05:31
It all closes down, right? Yeah. Everything
1:05:35
collapses. So the exact
1:05:38
replica of what happens here at the bottom of the body is what's
1:05:42
happening at the top. If our breath goes up and we suck our
1:05:45
stomach in, we're closing. Throat chakra head is going to control everything
1:05:50
because none of our low body is activated. But if we get the breath to
1:05:53
the lower body and we open that up, we now
1:05:57
have support muscles down here. You could feel that like strength at the
1:06:00
bottom that is going to send sound up through.
1:06:04
So the throat is open, the chest is open and the body's nice and strong.
1:06:08
And this is how we should feel when we speak all the time. This
1:06:12
is. You'll feel confident, you'll feel empowered, you'll feel in your body
1:06:15
and present level headed open hearted when we get our
1:06:19
voice down in here. So let's just do an ah, a nice
1:06:23
open eye to see what that feels like. If we breathe down to the waist
1:06:26
once that waist is strong, what I want you to do now is I want
1:06:30
you to press the waist into the hands. So not only is
1:06:34
the wide. The waist. When you first breathe, it gets nice and strong. Now I
1:06:37
want you to take those obliques, and I want you to expand them even
1:06:40
further. Okay. Strong side body.
1:06:44
And then we're just going to drop the open jaw to an ah. Okay,
1:06:48
so let's feel that. Breathe into the waist. Press
1:06:52
the waist into the hands. Drop the jaw.
1:07:04
Oh, yeah. Now that, you know
1:07:08
one more time. Your jaw. The smile gets in the way. So we want the
1:07:12
jaw. I'm having fun. And keep laughing.
1:07:16
Okay. And just let sound move,
1:07:20
because what you're going to feel is the whole channel of sound that moves through
1:07:23
you. It's a very powerful exercise. Yeah, I felt like a pillar. Almost
1:07:27
like a. Like a. Like an empty
1:07:30
pillar. Yes, exactly. Is your connection
1:07:34
to universal life force energy. Ah is the sound that
1:07:38
connects us to the entire universe, which is where Aum comes from.
1:07:42
And Amen and Allah and Amun and all
1:07:46
those words that we have. Ah is the sound that opens up this
1:07:49
channel to connect us to all the power that we have.
1:07:53
Right. So let's feel that together. If we feel the waist go wide,
1:07:57
we're going to open the entire channel for a big open ah. See how much
1:08:01
ah you can make and feel. If you could feel it moving through
1:08:04
your heart as well. So you not only have the waist here, but you
1:08:08
could feel sound coming through the chest. See if you could feel that. Let's breathe
1:08:11
in. Press the waist wide. Drop the jaw.
1:08:26
Oh, wow. You feel that?
1:08:30
Yeah. So there's your. It took me a few
1:08:33
tries, but that last one, I think I integrated. Your instructions,
1:08:37
and I really felt it. You feel the waist strong.
1:08:41
You feel the heart, and now the throat
1:08:45
is open, and you have all of this sound. This sound
1:08:48
is the bedrock of the voice in all the
1:08:52
ways we use it. So when I speak, I feel that
1:08:56
pillar, my words. I choose my words
1:08:59
from my mind of what I want to share, but it
1:09:03
moves sound through my emotional center as well. Right. So my voice is
1:09:06
now encompassing every part of my being. And when I
1:09:10
speak, my words are wrapping around that
1:09:14
open pillar of sound. Nothing is collapsed in here
1:09:17
and just kind of small and tight and sort of kind of doing
1:09:21
its thing. Right? Everything is supported, supported in this open channel.
1:09:25
And now I speak, and you can hear how much sound resonance
1:09:29
is there. I'm conducting more energy,
1:09:33
and this way my voice is way more impactful. As I send it out
1:09:37
into the world, those particles are going to be moving way
1:09:41
faster than they are. If I just kind of ask for what I want
1:09:45
in this kind of. Can I have that? Is this. Is it okay for me
1:09:48
to be who I am? I really love if we would do
1:09:51
right. Instead, it's here I am world moving
1:09:55
sound, resonance out into the quantum field moving
1:09:59
earth, fire, water, air, space, ether
1:10:03
out into the world. Watch how fast you start to manifest
1:10:07
things. Watch how fast your clients sign up with you. Watch how fast
1:10:11
the love of your life enters your world. Watch how fast that
1:10:14
money that you need to get into the bank gets into the bank. Just all
1:10:17
of it, whatever it might be. Watch how fast that brilliant idea that you
1:10:21
think that you can't come up with because you open the channel
1:10:25
of universal consciousness and it all starts to
1:10:29
move through you.
1:10:34
Incredible. Yeah. And I can. I mean, just
1:10:38
doing those few rounds with you, I'm in a completely different
1:10:42
place. I can feel like there's tingles. All
1:10:46
the tingles are happening.
1:10:51
Vera, this is such amazing work. I love it
1:10:55
so much. As I said at the beginning, when I found you and your
1:10:59
website, I was like, oh my goodness, I've
1:11:03
been looking and searching. So please let us know
1:11:06
how, how we can find you. I know there will be people who would
1:11:10
love to, after hearing this, love to come to a retreat or work with you
1:11:14
in some way. How does that happen? Beautiful. So my Instagram
1:11:17
is Vocal Underscore Transformation. My website
1:11:21
is vocal transformation.com and
1:11:25
I do, I have retreats all, all over the world throughout
1:11:29
the year. I'm in upstate New York. I hold some in New
1:11:32
York, but mostly traveling. I do have,
1:11:36
I have online courses. I have one on one coaching
1:11:40
for the truly dedicated student who feels like they
1:11:44
need the one on one teacher. And I also do a nine
1:11:47
month cohort every year where I take people through the entire
1:11:51
chanting practice in a group and we go through this whole
1:11:55
rebirth together. So there's so many ways to plug into
1:11:58
amazing. When is, when is your next
1:12:02
cohort happening? They start in September, so
1:12:06
I just. Okay, I just started this one. So next year.
1:12:09
So next September for the live cohort,
1:12:12
vocaltransformation.com to find a retreat coming
1:12:16
up near you, recorded work
1:12:20
and one on one options. Yes.
1:12:24
Amazing. And you mentioned you are in an upcoming documentary. What was
1:12:28
that called? It's called she Healed. It's a
1:12:31
biohacking documentary that they just made them. They just
1:12:35
released one called Biohack Yourself Lally. And they're
1:12:38
putting this one out this year about women's health and
1:12:42
how biohacking isn't really a female led industry,
1:12:46
but this is around women's health and it's lots
1:12:50
of different biohacking tools. It felt really good to bring something that is this.
1:12:54
Yes. Deep. Yeah. Because we're way beyond
1:12:58
biohacking with all of this.
1:13:02
To reduce the quantum world to biohacking is. Yeah.
1:13:05
It's a little reductive, but helpful. Helpful in many ways.
1:13:10
It will all the way so good.
1:13:13
But yes. I mean, this is. This is deeply profound work.
1:13:18
And I think we all,
1:13:22
you know, there are certain sort of fundamentals, I think to health.
1:13:26
And I would. I would now include doing void,
1:13:30
you know, connecting to our voice and our sound signature
1:13:33
as a fundamental healing tool. So
1:13:37
thank you for following your dreams, for opening this space.
1:13:42
It's so funny. You're the third woman I've interviewed in a week who has a
1:13:45
story of walking away from traditional media
1:13:50
just because she was like, no. And the
1:13:54
opportunity was right there. And they.
1:13:58
And you all kept walking to find your true. Your true path.
1:14:02
So thank you for doing that. Thank you. It's world changing.
1:14:06
Thank whatever horses that be that would just like no Marin in this
1:14:10
lifetime. You're not going to sell your soul to industry. Yep.
1:14:16
Good. We'll keep going. And I just want to say one last thing if I
1:14:20
can. Sure. Yeah. Please. My whole entire life is
1:14:23
for. Is to see the awakening of what it is we are.
1:14:27
And our conversation today was so much about how who we think we
1:14:31
are gets in the way of all of what we are.
1:14:35
And when we do this voice work, we become the tuning fork
1:14:38
for the entirety of this realm. Not just for humans,
1:14:42
for the animals, for the trees, for the plants, for the waters. Like what we
1:14:45
are capable of moving energetically through our
1:14:49
system can be of such great benefit to this planet.
1:14:53
So I chose not to go to industry standards of how like man
1:14:56
decides the business of life needs to look. And I
1:15:00
chose to instead work for the powers that be, which is
1:15:04
truly this incredible planet that we're.
1:15:07
We're lucky enough to be born into and like to be a part of in
1:15:11
these bodies. And so I feel like right now the human race
1:15:15
has. Has a decision we need to make about what our
1:15:18
places here and what we're going to do on this earth as
1:15:22
humans. Like, where is humanity? It seems to be something that
1:15:26
we're losing sight of. And so this voice work is
1:15:29
such an important and very powerful key if
1:15:33
to help humanity reclaim that heart center, to
1:15:37
reclaim what we are. And when we reclaim this,
1:15:41
we will see this entire world change. We will bring it
1:15:45
back to the goodness of what it is. So I just. If
1:15:49
you at all feel a call to finding your voice in service to
1:15:53
that, please come find me. Yes.
1:15:58
Yes. Beautifully put. Thank you for
1:16:01
expressing that. And, yeah, I have nothing to add,
1:16:05
that is. We're on the same page.
1:16:09
It's funny. I'm just remembering I occasionally
1:16:13
do, like, solo casts, and I did one where I was
1:16:16
called your voice matters. And
1:16:20
it meant more than I even realized when I said it at the time.
1:16:25
Our voices matter. We are. We
1:16:28
are. We got the golden ticket. Let's. Let's go for
1:16:32
it.
1:16:37
Thank you, Maren. I would love to do this again sometime.
1:16:41
Thank you so much for having me.