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Hour 2: Trump Derangement Syndrome. · The Mark Simone Show

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Speaker 1: It's more of Mark Mark Simon on seven to tenor.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's Monday, Thanksgiving week, it's Thursday's Thanksgiving and it
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Speaker 2: looks like a windy day. It may affect the parade.
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Speaker 2: They may have to lower the balloons. But we'll see
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Speaker 2: a little rain tomorrow maybe Wednesday morning, but Thursday, no rain.
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Speaker 2: It just could be very, very windy. So if you're
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Speaker 2: going to a big Thanksgiving dinner and you don't want
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Speaker 2: to get a fight about Trump and all that, we're
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Speaker 2: going to have some expert advice for you a little
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Speaker 2: later this hour. A great psychologist that doctor Keith Ablow,
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Speaker 2: has done a lot of work on Trump derangement syndrome.
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Speaker 2: He's sort of getting to the bottom of it psychologically.
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Speaker 2: How bad is it? What do you do with it?
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Speaker 2: Who gets that? Coming up? It's going to be a
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Speaker 2: fascinating later this hour. I notice President Trump did not
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Speaker 2: go to marrow Lago this past weekend, even though it
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Speaker 2: was a cold, windy weekend in Washington, d C. Normally
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Speaker 2: you think he'd want to get down to Florida, but
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Speaker 2: he just didn't want to go to mar Alago this weekend.
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Speaker 2: There was nothing major on the schedule, nothing that would
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Speaker 2: keep him in Washington. I think maybe he's just a
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Speaker 2: little sick of those old ladies at mar Alago that
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Speaker 2: just chase him around the dining room. You know, if
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Speaker 2: he goes anywhere in mar A Lago, the million old
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Speaker 2: ladies you see in the pictures chase him around. Now,
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Speaker 2: Wi you I wan youw. I just think he couldn't
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Speaker 2: take it for the weekend. One thing he did on Saturday,
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Speaker 2: he went to Andrews Air Force Base or whatever they
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Speaker 2: call it now, Joint Base Andrews, which clumsy name, but
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Speaker 2: Andrews Air Force Base for years had the best golf
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Speaker 2: courses in the whole federal government system, believe it or not.
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Speaker 2: Andrew's Air Force Base, it's twenty miles from the White House.
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Speaker 2: It's in Maryland. Has always had this nickname the President's
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Speaker 2: Golf Course, because this facility has two eighteen hole championship
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Speaker 2: golf courses, the East and the South courses, each designed
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Speaker 2: as a par seventy two layout. And apparently it's gotten
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Speaker 2: run down. Like everything in the federal government, it hasn't
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Speaker 2: been kept up to speed. So the president is going
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Speaker 2: to have Jack Nicholas, the great golfer, the legend, but
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Speaker 2: Jack Nicholas runs a company that builds absolute, incredible, state
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Speaker 2: of the art golf courses. Is going to have Nicholas
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Speaker 2: and his company redo these golf courses so they'll be
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Speaker 2: as fine as any golf courses in America. Saturday, during
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Speaker 2: the day, he went out to Andrews, had Jack Nicholson
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Speaker 2: meet him there and they walked the course and figured
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Speaker 2: it out what they're going to do. Remember, Trump has
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Speaker 2: also built dozens and dozens and dozens of world championship
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Speaker 2: golf courses all over the world. Knows exactly what he's doing.
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Speaker 2: So these two experts, you know, you're really lucky to
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Speaker 2: have this guy in the White House. You imagine Obama
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Speaker 2: trying to rebuild a golf course. Can you imagine Joe
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Speaker 2: Biden trying to build anything. So you got these two
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Speaker 2: experts at building golf courses looking this thing over. Trump's
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Speaker 2: an absolute expert at building ballrooms construction. He's been redoing
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Speaker 2: bit by bit by bit parts of the White House.
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Speaker 2: Oh not just the ballroom, but there's a thing called
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Speaker 2: the Palm Court. When you come in to see the
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Speaker 2: President foreign leaders and you go through that door. The
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Speaker 2: first area you're in, it's a big lobby area it's
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Speaker 2: called the Palm Court, was just so old and decrepit.
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Speaker 2: President has rebuilt that completely. It had like a linoleum floor.
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Speaker 2: He put in the finest marble and he fixed the
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Speaker 2: whole thing up, paying for most of it himself or
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Speaker 2: with private donations. He's redone the residence, he's redone the
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Speaker 2: Oval Office. Obviously, some say overdone the Oval Office. But
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Speaker 2: and you know, when you're in the Oval Office, that
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Speaker 2: big Oval Office, there's a doorway on the side. If
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Speaker 2: you go through that door, there's a hallway that goes
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Speaker 2: to the real office, what's something called the real President's office.
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Speaker 2: That little hallway goes down to a few rooms. One's
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Speaker 2: a private bathroom, one's a little den, one's a little
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Speaker 2: dining room, one's a little office. And that's where many
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Speaker 2: presidents would really work. Nixon didn't like the big Oval office,
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Speaker 2: so he'd go to a little office work out of there.
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Speaker 2: President turned it into kind of a TV room, and
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Speaker 2: he turned one room. He gets a lot of flak
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Speaker 2: for this. You'll see a lot of articles in the
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Speaker 2: left wing fake news, all the left wing sites. He
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Speaker 2: turned it into a gift shop. Why it's so tacky
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Speaker 2: it's a gift shop. And if you look at the pictures,
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Speaker 2: it's got shelves of gifts, Trump hats of all kinds,
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Speaker 2: Trump matchbooks, Trump cufflinks, trump watches, Trump pens, And they
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Speaker 2: make it sound like this is the cheesiest thing any
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Speaker 2: president has ever done. What is he thinking? A gift shop?
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Speaker 2: What an ego? A None of these articles point out
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Speaker 2: that every president did exactly the same thing, but not
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Speaker 2: on such a good scale. You went to see President Bush,
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Speaker 2: if you went to see President Clinton, if you went
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Speaker 2: to visit any president, they would always at the end
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Speaker 2: walk you over to that thing where they would give
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Speaker 2: you gifts. There was always presidential cuff links, presidential pen, oval,
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Speaker 2: office match books. I mean, I got a big collection
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Speaker 2: of this stuff. They'd give you this. It was mostly
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Speaker 2: the cufflinks. That was the big thing. That the cuff
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Speaker 2: links at the presidential seal. For a million years, that
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Speaker 2: was the main gift. But it's now twenty twenty five
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Speaker 2: and nobody wears cuff links anymore. You never see French
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Speaker 2: cuffs anywhere anymore, so why would you give cuflinks? Nobody
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Speaker 2: can use them anymore. So that's why Trump has switched
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Speaker 2: to hats and all that stuff. You know, they still
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Speaker 2: have the presidential cuplings, although I've never seen him give anybody,
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Speaker 2: and so pens are good, even a pen. It's kind
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Speaker 2: of that most people don't use pens that much anymore.
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Speaker 2: So he didn't go to Marlago this week and stayed
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Speaker 2: in Washington. They were working on the Ukraine deal throughout
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Speaker 2: the weekend. Now, the problem with this Ukraine twenty eight
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Speaker 2: point piece plan, whatever it is, it favors Russia completely.
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Speaker 2: It's very bad for Ukraine. But this is round one.
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Speaker 2: This is how Trump does if you put out a
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Speaker 2: plan that's way too far in this direction, and then
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Speaker 2: you make the other side negotiate back, so he knows
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Speaker 2: what he's doing. There's a deadline Thanksgiving Day. Marco Rubio
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Speaker 2: was asked about that.
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Speaker 3: The deadline is, we want to get this done as
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Speaker 3: soon as possible. Obviously, you know, we'd love it to
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Speaker 3: be Thursday. We'd love to be Ultimately. The important point
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Speaker 3: today is that we have made substantial progress. We've really
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Speaker 3: moved forward. So I feel very optimistic that we're going
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Speaker 3: to get there in a very reasonable period of time,
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Speaker 3: very soon.
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Speaker 2: Okay, but the deal is so pro Russian they think
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Speaker 2: Russia wrote it.
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Speaker 3: No matter what we came up with today. Obviously we
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Speaker 3: now have to take what we come up with. If
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Speaker 3: we can reach that agreement with the Ukrainian side to
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Speaker 3: the Russian side, that's another part of this equation. They
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Speaker 3: have to agree to it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so whatever you see in the agreement, it's not
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Speaker 2: going to be the agreement. This is just round one.
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Speaker 3: I think this is a very very meaningful I would say,
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Speaker 3: probably best meeting and we've had so far in this
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Speaker 3: entire process, going back to when we first came into
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Speaker 3: office in January.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so apparently they're talking, they're making progress, they're getting
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Speaker 2: there in this deal. And again it's round what like
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Speaker 2: the greatest movie you've ever seen that you love, what
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Speaker 2: a brilliant script. If you went and looked at the
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Speaker 2: first draft of the first round of the script, it
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Speaker 2: looked terrible. So it gets rewritten and rewritten and rewritten.
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Speaker 2: That'll total happen until they get approval.
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Speaker 3: It's ultimately have to be signed off of by our presidents.
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Speaker 3: Although I feel very comfortable about that happening given the
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Speaker 3: progress we've made. And then obviously there's the Russian side
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Speaker 3: of the equation. But again, we think we have some
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Speaker 3: pretty substantial insights over the last nine months into some
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Speaker 3: of the things that are really important to them.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, remember they did the Gaza peace deal. That
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Speaker 2: took a lot of rounds, but they learned a lot
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Speaker 2: from that that they've applied here to this. Speaking of Gaza,
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Speaker 2: the president has had all the hostages he can visit
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Speaker 2: the White House and no number of these hostages telling
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Speaker 2: horror stories about torture. You know, well, the crazy left
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Speaker 2: out there protesting Israel, the absolute horrible villains in this
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Speaker 2: where the Hamas idiots with it wasn't just torture, many
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Speaker 2: of them telling stories of sexual abuse, men being abused
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Speaker 2: by men sexually. It's just the most ugly stuff imaginable.
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Speaker 2: Now you're probably saying, yeah, I didn't know that. Well,
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Speaker 2: it's because obviously the media looks the other way on it.
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Speaker 2: They make it look like Israel's the bad guy here
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Speaker 2: when Hamas has been the most awful thing on earth.
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Speaker 2: That everything they've done talking about war crimes, the worst
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Speaker 2: stuff in the world, and of course the media totally
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Speaker 2: ignoring it. This story about the sexual abuse of these prisoners.
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Speaker 2: Go back look at all the Sunday shows see if
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Speaker 2: you see a word about this there the hostage is
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Speaker 2: telling these stories. Not a word on these Sunday shows,
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Speaker 2: but they'll do a half hour on Marjorie Taylor Green.
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Speaker 2: So I don't know why I still I don't know
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Speaker 2: why I still watch these Sunday shows. They are so
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Speaker 2: corrupt and so fake and so awful. Hey, here in
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Speaker 2: New York, you got the governor's race coming up next year.
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Speaker 2: You got Elis Stephonic who looked like a shoe in
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Speaker 2: for the nomination the candidate, but then Bruce Blakeman jumps in.
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Speaker 2: Now Blakeman is the finest county executive in America. And
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Speaker 2: what is a county executive? Well, it's like a governor.
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Speaker 2: He's the governor of Nassau County and he's done a
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Speaker 2: brilliant job. Elise Stephonic, lover, she's brilliant, she's great, But
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Speaker 2: she's a legislator. Does she have any management experience? Because
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Speaker 2: you're a great legislator, does that necessarily mean you'd be
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Speaker 2: a great governor?
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Speaker 4: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Kathy Hochel came out of the legislator legislator les later
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Speaker 2: who it was Couoma that picked her as a legislator
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Speaker 2: picked her to be the lieutenant governor. Now, what you
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Speaker 2: usually do if you're a governor, you picked somebody who's
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Speaker 2: not so great so you don't get shown up. And
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Speaker 2: then he picked her, and of course she was just awful,
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Speaker 2: and we got stuck with her as governor. You can
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Speaker 2: blame Cuomo for picking her, but if you say that
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Speaker 2: to him, he'll say, yeah, but you guys re elected her. Well,
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Speaker 2: he's got a point there, so you'll have a legislator
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Speaker 2: versus a former legislator. Now, if Blakeman jumps in, he's
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Speaker 2: the only guy with any management experience, a great governor himself.
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Speaker 2: And you know, Stephanic is very smart, number one in
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Speaker 2: her class at Harvard and all that. But let's be honest,
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Speaker 2: Blakeman is as smart as anybody. So he's gonna be
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Speaker 2: her equal, if not better, on that score. Now, Stephanic
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Speaker 2: is stronger upstate. She's from upstate. She's an upstate type.
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Speaker 2: Blakeman is a more sophisticated, downstate New York City sort
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Speaker 2: of a guy. And half the votes for governor are
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Speaker 2: here in New York City. But can Blakeman play upstate?
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Speaker 2: I don't know. But he's a very smart guy. And
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Speaker 2: he went up there and did a two were of
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Speaker 2: Binghamton and all these different areas, meeting with people, you know,
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Speaker 2: going to the diner, talking to people like a Bill
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Speaker 2: Clinton kind of a tour, and that's what you got
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Speaker 2: to do. So he's weighing it very carefully. He's a
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Speaker 2: very smart guy, so he'll check it out real carefully.
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Speaker 2: He's got to make a decision in the next couple
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Speaker 2: of weeks on whether to run. He was at the
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Speaker 2: Binghamton diner last week. Now, this could mean a primary,
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Speaker 2: and a lot of people said, well, this is not good.
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Speaker 2: We don't want to have a fight. Why should we
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Speaker 2: have a prime? Well, you want a primary. Even President
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Speaker 2: Trump said, you know, you're better off having a primary.
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Speaker 2: You don't want to have a coronation of a candidate
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Speaker 2: that never works. That's not a good idea. You don't
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Speaker 2: want to Kamala Harris sort of a coronation. You want
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Speaker 2: a primary. Somebody wins and earns the nomination. That's the
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Speaker 2: best way to do it. So we'll see what happens.
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Speaker 2: We'll take some calls in a minute. Eight hundred three
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Speaker 2: to two one zero seven ten is the number. So
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Speaker 2: I've had two, three, four Thanksgiving dinners already? Is it five?
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Speaker 2: I think we even got one down the hall here today.
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Speaker 2: You know, we have these buffets all over the place
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Speaker 2: down the hall that way Power one oh five front
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Speaker 2: of Charlemagne Studio is it's Golden Corral, very good caterer,
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Speaker 2: and they do these beautiful Thanksgiving dinners and turkey and
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Speaker 2: ham and stuffing and sweet potatoes in every kind of
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Speaker 2: pumpkin pie pee can I mean, the longest most elaborate
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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving buffet. This is the fourth time they've been here
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Speaker 2: in the last ten days, so I've had for these
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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving dinners. I got to be honest. Thursday, I don't
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Speaker 2: think I can eat any more turkey. I don't want
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Speaker 2: to see anymore cranver. I've had enough. Hey, by the way,
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Speaker 2: there's a buffet down the other end of the hall
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Speaker 2: with it's delicious and what the food these scones. Well,
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Speaker 2: it's delicious. But I didn't Normally the restaurant has a
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Speaker 2: big sign or something, but I didn't see. I mean,
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Speaker 2: I said, it's right in front of light f M.
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Speaker 2: I said, who did the buffet? It's phenomenon? He said, oh,
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Speaker 2: Luftanza Airlines meeting airline food here, but it was great.
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Speaker 2: So I guess it's just American airlines US airlines that
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Speaker 2: have bad food. This Leftan's a pretty good food there. Anyway,
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Speaker 2: we'll take some calls. We'll get to Trump arrangement syndrome.
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Speaker 2: We've got an expert to explain it to us, but
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Speaker 2: we'll take some calls. Next. Eight hundred three to two
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Speaker 2: one zero seven ten is the number. Eight hundred three
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Speaker 2: to two one zero seven ten.
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Speaker 1: It's the Mark Simone show on sevent tenor.
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Speaker 2: Well, let's take some calls. Eight hundred three two one
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Speaker 2: zero seven ten is the number, and let's go to Stuart,
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Speaker 2: South Carolina. Stuart, how you doing?
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Speaker 5: Hey?
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Speaker 4: Mark?
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Speaker 5: How you do?
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Speaker 6: I just heard the Melia masker mentioned a couple times
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Speaker 6: by Vincent on Friday. I just want to set the
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Speaker 6: record straight. It happened in nineteen sixty eight, Lieutenant CALLI yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 6: massacre in Meli. Later on he was exonerated for that,
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Speaker 6: and nobody mentions that. And I just want to add
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Speaker 6: that in. I remember when it happened, Verbert ohay.
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Speaker 2: But I said it was illegal, but it is illegal.
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Speaker 2: I'm massacre civilians, isn't it?
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Speaker 7: Yeah?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you have to go through the case and everything else.
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Speaker 6: But like I said, he was eventually exonerated. And the
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Speaker 6: fact that these Democrats are telling the military men and
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Speaker 6: women they have no dog in this fight. If soldiers
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Speaker 6: end up saying I'm not going to obey this law,
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Speaker 6: you know, or this order because I think that it's illegal,
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Speaker 6: they're going to get tried under the US UCMJ and
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Speaker 6: probably put in prison in Leavenworth. I mean, what they're
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Speaker 6: telling these people is unconscionable.
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Speaker 2: Well, but it was pretty smart of them. It was
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Speaker 2: you know, this is a world of trolling people. Now
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Speaker 2: they were trolling Trump. He overreacted a little. I mean,
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Speaker 2: he's still right. He's absolutely right. I mean they're talking
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Speaker 2: about sedition.
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Speaker 6: But and that's absolutely right. Sedition right near Fort Gordon
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Speaker 6: in Augusta. And there are a lot of military people
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Speaker 6: here on Vice President of Vietnam Veterans of America North Augusta.
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Speaker 8: And people are outraged.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely outraged.
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Speaker 2: All right, good call, Stuart, thanks for calling. Let's go
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Speaker 2: to Steve in Manhattan. Steve, how you doing.
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Speaker 5: Don't blame me. I voted for Pap Buchanan.
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Speaker 2: Now there's nobody under ninety who knows who you're talking about.
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Speaker 2: But okay, he was a great guy, Pat Buchanan, he
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Speaker 2: was a regular guest on the show. I love the guy,
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Speaker 2: but I think he's been dead twenty years and he
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Speaker 2: ran for president like thirty forty years ago or something.
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Speaker 2: Those of you that don't know who that is. Let's
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Speaker 2: go to Mike and Florida.
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Speaker 8: Mike, how you doing, good morning, Mark, Yes, Mike, I
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Speaker 8: have a quick story that kind of illustrates how the
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Speaker 8: president is in person. I a number of years ago
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Speaker 8: worked on an infomercial and he was the guest, and
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Speaker 8: I had met him previously a couple of times, but
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Speaker 8: on another show. And so the producer comes down in
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Speaker 8: just the usual skiel that dude, don't look at him,
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Speaker 8: don't talk to him.
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Speaker 5: Okay.
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Speaker 8: So of course I'm the stage manager. So I go
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Speaker 8: to the back of the dressing room and in the
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Speaker 8: outer room there's a big burly security guard and he
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Speaker 8: stops me. And the President Trump is in the other
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Speaker 8: room tying his tie. So the god goes what he needs.
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Speaker 8: I go on the stage, my Mike on the stage manager,
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Speaker 8: I just wanted to show mister Trump his walkout, and
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Speaker 8: Trump stops what he's doing looks and he goes. He
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Speaker 8: walks out and he goes to the security guard. You
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Speaker 8: listen to this guy pointing to me. He knows what
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Speaker 8: he's talking about. I said, Hi, Hi, miss, nice to
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Speaker 8: meet you again.
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Speaker 4: I just want to show you.
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Speaker 5: Yes.
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Speaker 8: He put his yes, Mike puts his arm on my shoulder.
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Speaker 8: I walk him down the hallway. He loves me, and
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Speaker 8: this illustrates who he is. He wasn't insincere, he wasn't
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Speaker 8: blowing smoke. He's genuinely like that.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, no, he's When he goes into a
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Speaker 2: building or anywhere, he always like to say hello to
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Speaker 2: the doorman first. If he comes into a radius. He's
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Speaker 2: the only guest I've ever since go into the control
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Speaker 2: room say hello to everybody in there.
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Speaker 4: Uh.
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Speaker 2: That's the way.
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Speaker 8: He is, the very very gregarious guy. And he has
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Speaker 8: love in his heart and he's not you know, if
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Speaker 8: he has to fight, he will. You look, he's fought
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Speaker 8: the toughest guys in New York, you know, lobsters and
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Speaker 8: bad landlords and unions and politicians. So you know, sometimes
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Speaker 8: you have to you know, sometimes you get more, you know,
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Speaker 8: flies for money, but sometimes you kick him in the butt. Good.
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Speaker 5: We can do both.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, good call Mike, thanks for calling you. You know,
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Speaker 2: if you talk. There's people that work in the White
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Speaker 2: House for like thirty years, forty years. They're just staffed.
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Speaker 2: They're there through every president.
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Speaker 4: Uh.
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Speaker 2: And a bunch of them have told me the only
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Speaker 2: president who ever comes into the kitchen to talk to them,
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Speaker 2: you know, the people who work in the kitchen, it's Trump.
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Speaker 2: He'll walk in every you know, every few days, says,
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Speaker 2: how you doing, what's going on? And here you guys
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Speaker 2: need anything. He'll walk around the grounds, talk to the
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Speaker 2: gardeners every how you're doing, you need anything? Got everything?
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Speaker 2: You need everything? Good?
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 2: And they've been there for decades. I've never seen another
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Speaker 2: president do that, does that all, you know. I always
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Speaker 2: noticed when he comes to the big donors thrown a
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Speaker 2: big fundraiser in the apartment on Park Avenue or Fifth Avenue.
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Speaker 2: Whenever the candidate walks in, the big big candidate, I
18:14
Speaker 2: don't want to measure. Your name's Mitt Romney. But whenever
18:17
Speaker 2: the big candidate walks in, it's always the same thing.
18:22
Speaker 2: The wife will come over first, and he'll like swap
18:24
Speaker 2: the wife out of the way, get out of the way,
18:25
Speaker 2: where's the husband? Where's the guy right in the check?
18:27
Speaker 2: I want to talk to him? And all he wants
18:29
Speaker 2: to do is talk to the big donor. But I
18:30
Speaker 2: always watch when Trump walks in. He always ignores these people.
18:33
Speaker 2: He always wants to talk to the waiters first, the
18:35
Speaker 2: bartender first, the woman checking the coach. He'll always talk
18:39
Speaker 2: to her first. He'll make the donor's weight. He's always
18:41
Speaker 2: been that way. Let's go to David in Brooklyn. David,
18:44
Speaker 2: how you doing? Yep, we lost him. Let's go to
18:49
Speaker 2: Ray and oh the story, Ray, how you.
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Speaker 7: Doing all right? Mark's mom?
18:54
Speaker 2: Let me check, yes it is.
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Speaker 9: I worked on me precinct in the on seventy sixty
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Speaker 9: seventh Street there.
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Speaker 7: You alt. I rebuilt that whole precinct.
19:10
Speaker 2: Way you were.
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Speaker 7: No, I did construction there.
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Speaker 2: Oh okay, because with your voice, it wouldn't work if
19:17
Speaker 2: you went stop police. It doesn't sound right.
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Speaker 7: I know, I got it. I got a crazy voice.
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Speaker 2: No, you got a nice voice. Good voice, very peppy,
19:26
Speaker 2: very lively sound.
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Speaker 9: I'm eighty, I'm eighty six years old.
19:30
Speaker 2: Perfect right now, target demo.
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Speaker 9: I worked on the precinct there and we rebuilt it
19:37
Speaker 9: and that whole area across the street was the Russian
19:45
Speaker 9: what do you call residency, and they got cameras all
19:49
Speaker 9: over that precinct, all over that area.
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Speaker 2: All right, I don't know what the hell you're talking about,
19:54
Speaker 2: but you sound happy about it. What do you mean
19:56
Speaker 2: you built a.
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Speaker 9: We did the the precinct there, the old precinct. We
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Speaker 9: rebuilt it where eighty or sixty sixty seventh Street. Oh,
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Speaker 9: the nineteenth priescingc Yeah, the nineteenth, the firehouse.
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Speaker 2: I got to be honest, that did in that nineteenth
20:17
Speaker 2: precinct kind of run down. Yeah, you built that. It's
20:21
Speaker 2: not exactly an architectural digest that place.
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Speaker 7: I know.
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Speaker 9: It's an eighteen eighty sixth facade.
20:28
Speaker 2: I know what you're talking like. It's the taiz Ma Hall.
20:30
Speaker 2: It's not the best look.
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Speaker 5: In the it was.
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Speaker 9: The inside of it is good.
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Speaker 2: I've seen the inside. It's okay.
20:38
Speaker 7: I mean it's functional that Oh yeah, yeah, I just
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Speaker 7: want to let you know about the.
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Speaker 2: Decorator. I wouldn't go around showing that to anybody.
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Speaker 9: There's also a spy room in that precinct which they
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Speaker 9: have cameras looking at the Russian consulate right across the street.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll assume they do. Yeah, all right, Ray, good call.
21:02
Speaker 2: You sound like a great guy. Thanks for calling. Hey
21:05
Speaker 2: when we come back. One of the great psychiatrists and
21:07
Speaker 2: he's actually a great life coach. Now, but doctor Keith Ablow,
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Speaker 2: best selling author. You've seen him all over television. He
21:14
Speaker 2: has some real insight into Trump derangement syndrome. What is
21:18
Speaker 2: it really all about? Well, this is fascinating. We'll get
21:21
Speaker 2: to this next on seven to ten. WR get hiss.
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21:32
Speaker 1: Now back to the Mark Simone Show ONR.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know this Trump derangement syndrome, it's a very
21:40
Speaker 2: serious thing. And there was a psychiatrist wrote an op
21:44
Speaker 2: ed piece of Wall Street Journal saying it's a serious disease.
21:47
Speaker 2: It's so. Miranda Devine had doctor Keith Ablow on her
21:52
Speaker 2: big Great podcast and he really had some insight into
21:55
Speaker 2: Trump derangement syndrome. Doctor Keith Ablow, who's also a great
21:59
Speaker 2: life coach, best selling author. Follow him on Twitter to
22:03
Speaker 2: get his all of his books, and of course you
22:06
Speaker 2: see him all over television. Doctor Keith Ablow. How you
22:09
Speaker 2: doing I'm doing well.
22:11
Speaker 5: Mark, how are you.
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Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm good.
22:13
Speaker 6: So.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Miranda Devine was on the show. She was telling
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Speaker 2: us about I mean, you experts, you know, we think
22:20
Speaker 2: Trump Arrangement Center. It's kind of a funny name, but
22:23
Speaker 2: you found it. It's a real mental disorder, isn't it.
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Speaker 4: Well, listen, you know this is a common, common thing
22:32
Speaker 4: that's afflicting people. We're not going to find it in
22:35
Speaker 4: a diagnostic manual, but I'll tell you people who object
22:41
Speaker 4: to autonomy and are not grounded in the self. You know,
22:46
Speaker 4: the self's a miracle, it's connected to God, It's where
22:49
Speaker 4: we operate most powerfully from. It's the center of human beings.
22:54
Speaker 4: If that is, for whatever reason, really frightening to you,
22:58
Speaker 4: then Donald Trump's going to be real frightening to you,
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Speaker 4: and you're subject to trumped arrangement syndrome.
23:04
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, the politics, you know, they hated Bush, they
23:08
Speaker 2: hated Cheney, they hated Nixon. But with Trump it sets
23:12
Speaker 2: them off. He sets them off in a way I've
23:14
Speaker 2: never seen anybody. What is it in his personality that
23:18
Speaker 2: makes them crazy?
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Speaker 5: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: I think you're absolutely right. He is number one. There's
23:25
Speaker 4: no confusion whatsoever about his gender. He's hyper male, he's
23:30
Speaker 4: hypt and this offends some people.
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Speaker 5: They don't even know that offense them.
23:36
Speaker 4: Necessarily, but they're unconsciously deeply offended that he has masculinity
23:43
Speaker 4: in every mannerism, right, So that's one one aspect of it,
23:48
Speaker 4: for sure.
23:49
Speaker 5: Another is, I'm sorry, you're.
23:52
Speaker 2: Right, it's like nineteen fifties, really tough masculinity. We haven't
23:56
Speaker 2: seen that in a president in years. So that's a
23:59
Speaker 2: good point. What's the other one.
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Speaker 4: It's like John Wayne is holding you know, office, and
24:05
Speaker 4: people don't know what to do about it. The other
24:08
Speaker 4: thing is that he is not in any way ambivalent
24:14
Speaker 4: about things. He expresses things very definitively. If you waffle,
24:19
Speaker 4: if you want to play both sides in the middle,
24:23
Speaker 4: then this is going to make you very nervous, and
24:26
Speaker 4: you're going to take it out on Donald Trump because
24:30
Speaker 4: he adds up the numbers and then in a very
24:33
Speaker 4: direct way, he'll say, look, here's how it looks arithmetically.
24:38
Speaker 4: You don't have the leverage you think you do. I
24:41
Speaker 4: just did all of the variable analysis. Here's your choices.
24:46
Speaker 5: Now. That would appeal to people who love.
24:50
Speaker 4: Logic and who really like honesty, but it doesn't appeal
24:54
Speaker 4: to people who want nothing to have reality, and right
24:59
Speaker 4: now Donald Trump is on the side of reality, truth, honesty,
25:05
Speaker 4: and people who would like to be an avatar of themselves,
25:10
Speaker 4: to be anything to anyone, and to assert that countries
25:15
Speaker 4: don't need borders. I mean, listen, almost half the electric
25:19
Speaker 4: or whatever thinks maybe countries don't have to have borders.
25:22
Speaker 4: That's like delusional, and Donald Trump in that way will
25:26
Speaker 4: tell you, well, that's craziness. They will therefore hate him,
25:31
Speaker 4: fear him, and be subject to Trump derangement syndrome.
25:35
Speaker 2: So if Donald Trump came to you and said, show
25:37
Speaker 2: me what to do to be more likable, would you
25:40
Speaker 2: show them or would you say, hey, just be yourself.
25:44
Speaker 4: I would say, You've got to be yourself. In a
25:46
Speaker 4: lot of ways, the antidote to Trump derangement syndrome is
25:50
Speaker 4: more exposure to truth and to trumpisms. However, I would say, listen,
25:57
Speaker 4: you might throw in even additional humor to tell people
26:02
Speaker 4: it's okay, as he's done recently. He said listen, you
26:05
Speaker 4: can you can call me a fascist if you and
26:07
Speaker 4: I've been called worse. So if he's able to tell people, listen,
26:13
Speaker 4: here's what's happening, I know. I know that, the fact
26:18
Speaker 4: that I'm quite definitive, the fact that you know, people
26:20
Speaker 4: call me, you know, hyper meal. I know this offense
26:23
Speaker 4: some people. It's okay, we're going to get there together.
26:26
Speaker 4: I suppose you could do that in Olive Branch. But
26:29
Speaker 4: really I wouldn't change Donald Trump, and I would advise
26:32
Speaker 4: him keep going, man, this is what we need.
26:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right now, doctor Keith Abler. People are going
26:38
Speaker 2: to Thanksgiving dinner. They're going to probably get in a
26:41
Speaker 2: fight with relatives that have Trump to arrangement syndrome. What
26:44
Speaker 2: can they do to deal with it? Or should they
26:46
Speaker 2: just humor them? What should they do?
26:49
Speaker 5: Just humor them?
26:51
Speaker 4: One of one of the things about trump de rangement
26:53
Speaker 4: syndrome is it's very rigid. You know, if people don't
26:58
Speaker 4: come to my office, they may not get over it.
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Speaker 5: Right.
27:00
Speaker 4: So I would say, you sidestep it, you smile, you
27:05
Speaker 4: ask them more questions, let them talk, and don't interact.
27:09
Speaker 4: Don't insert your own opinions, because you know what, you're
27:12
Speaker 4: not going to convert anybody at Thanksgiving and what you
27:16
Speaker 4: want is peace. And so you can't in some ways
27:19
Speaker 4: you just can't engage. So you dodge, you weave you
27:23
Speaker 4: talk about other subjects. If people insist on talking about that,
27:26
Speaker 4: ask them more questions about what they think, rather than,
27:31
Speaker 4: you know, boldly saying you're so completely up face, you're delusional.
27:38
Speaker 4: That's not going to work with the stuffing.
27:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you see the psychiatrist wrote the op ed
27:43
Speaker 2: for the Wall Street Journal last week about Trump derangement syndrome.
27:46
Speaker 2: It's an actual mental disorder, and he seemed to take
27:51
Speaker 2: it very very seriously on the chart of mental disorders.
27:56
Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw that, and listen.
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Speaker 4: I think what it is is, it's a subset. It's
28:02
Speaker 4: basically that, you know, those who want to be cared
28:07
Speaker 4: for as though they have a parent in the state,
28:14
Speaker 4: those who don't really want to assert their individual and
28:17
Speaker 4: individuality and autonomy, and who would like there to be
28:22
Speaker 4: no reality about the world.
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Speaker 5: They are that group that.
28:28
Speaker 4: Are subject to Trump derangement syndrome and right, and so
28:33
Speaker 4: the bottom line is is it a clinical condition.
28:36
Speaker 5: We wouldn't medicate it.
28:37
Speaker 4: We wouldn't you know, and I wouldn't coach anyone out
28:39
Speaker 4: of it without a lot of time in my office.
28:44
Speaker 4: But the bottom line is that people should reflect who
28:47
Speaker 4: are subject to that. Is it possible? But because I'm
28:51
Speaker 4: not feeling empowered myself. That looking at someone that powerful
28:57
Speaker 4: and certain is deeply offensive to me.
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Speaker 2: Huh. Now, what else Miranda said has to do with
29:04
Speaker 2: daddy issues? Is that? Is that true?
29:07
Speaker 4: Well? That masculinity quotient is so high in Trump that
29:15
Speaker 4: if you have ambivalence about that role and your family
29:19
Speaker 4: the you know, if if you have deep questions about
29:23
Speaker 4: who your father was or what you thought of it,
29:25
Speaker 4: or or or your own masculinity, you may well be
29:30
Speaker 4: more vulnerable Trump arrangement syndrome. Because here's a big mac
29:36
Speaker 4: eating guy who is nonetheless a healthy man, a strapping fellow,
29:43
Speaker 4: even even you know, past his sixties. And that too
29:50
Speaker 4: causes people consternation. They're like, how can he not be
29:53
Speaker 4: eating carrots and other vegetables to show us how healthy
29:58
Speaker 4: that is? And it will be pulling, you know, near
30:02
Speaker 4: all nighters. So it deeply, deeply concerns people who want
30:08
Speaker 4: to feel somewhat vulnerable and therefore as though the state should.
30:12
Speaker 5: Take care of them, and who might vote.
30:16
Speaker 4: For you know, government officials who say, don't worry, we'll
30:20
Speaker 4: control everything. You don't need to have any power. Donald
30:24
Speaker 4: Trump says, no, no, you should have autonomy. Start being yourself,
30:27
Speaker 4: be grounded as an individual, make your own choices. These
30:32
Speaker 4: things cause people a lot of anxiety. It's also the
30:34
Speaker 4: key to a good life. Well, hey, great stuff. We're
30:38
Speaker 4: out of time. Hey, next time I gotta ask you.
30:40
Speaker 4: You treated Hunter Biden for a while.
30:44
Speaker 2: I think you might be true.
30:45
Speaker 4: That was reported in the news.
30:46
Speaker 2: Yes, I think he might need some more sessions.
30:50
Speaker 4: Yeah, the same address.
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Speaker 2: Well, great stuff, doctor Keith Ablow. You can get his
30:57
Speaker 2: books on Amazon. And if people want to contact you,
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Speaker 2: what's the best way.
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Speaker 4: Best way is info at Keithablow dot com or just
31:06
Speaker 4: visit Keithablow dot com and there's a link.
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Speaker 5: You can get right to me.
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Speaker 2: Check out his website Keithablow dot com. Doctor Keithablow, great stuff,
31:14
Speaker 2: Thanks for being with us.
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Speaker 4: Thanks Mark, all.
31:17
Speaker 2: Right, take care. Interesting stuff. So now remember Thanksgiving dinner.
31:21
Speaker 2: Don't get into a big fight with everybody. Just nod
31:24
Speaker 2: and yes them to death and change the subject. Hey,
31:27
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31:53
Speaker 2: So we're just about out of time. Well, we are
31:56
Speaker 2: happy to clear up things for you. Marthorie Taylor Green
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Speaker 2: is not. They had nothing to do with Donald Trump.
32:01
Speaker 2: They keep a rift, a terrible breakup of no relationship
32:05
Speaker 2: at all. The other headlining split in the mag of
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Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Green with some fringe character who the only
32:14
Speaker 2: people have paid any attention to her, with a fake
32:16
Speaker 2: news always covering her because she'd say something silly. So
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Speaker 2: she's left politics. She says she's gonna run in twenty
32:24
Speaker 2: twenty eight thinking it over. Ah, you just say that
32:27
Speaker 2: makes you look important that way. Everybody still talks to
32:29
Speaker 2: you because they think you might be running anyway. We're
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Speaker 2: out of time. Don't go away. Buck and Clay are next.
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Speaker 2: I'll be back tomorrow ten to noon, and I hope
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