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Brian Galicia - The Unseen Challenges and Triumphs · Quarterback DadCast | Intentional Fatherhood & Leadership at Home

• 0:03
  Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Riley and I'm Ryder and this is my dad's show.
• 0:06
  Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, it's Casey Jaycox with the quarterback dad cast.
• 0:16
  Speaker 2: We are in season five and we continue on.
• 0:19
  Speaker 2: After a fantastic month of February, we're learning so much about some fantastic women, some authors, some just great females impacting us dads, trying to create better ways for us to be better leaders of our home, to create ways we can impact our kids more from a curiosity perspective, a humility perspective, a vulnerability perspective.
• 0:38
  Speaker 2: Those are what I call our superpowers, dads.
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: So what do we have ahead?
• 0:43
  Speaker 2: We have some fantastic dads and a few moms that we're going to sprinkle in over the next few months.
• 0:48
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• 1:01
  Speaker 2: So, without further ado, let's get to today's episode on now on the quarterback dad cast.
• 1:06
  Speaker 2: Well, hey, everybody, it's Casey Jaycox with the quarterback dad cast.
• 1:09
  Speaker 2: We are in season five and every time I say that it feels fantastic.
• 1:14
  Speaker 2: And our next guest is someone I met in the wide world of AAU basketball, or daughters played on the same team last summer.
• 1:20
  Speaker 2: This guy's like tech, tech savvy dude.
• 1:23
  Speaker 2: He had this like high level app keeping scores for our girls and they'd fit live Facebook and every parent was like, oh my God, what is like?
• 1:31
  Speaker 2: This is amazing and I have no idea still how he did it.
• 1:33
  Speaker 2: But and he can't share secrets because then he probably like leave Microsoft to make gazillions of dollars.
• 1:37
  Speaker 2: He has spent 17 years there he is.
• 1:41
  Speaker 2: His name is Brian Galicia.
• 1:42
  Speaker 2: As I mentioned, he's a hoop dad.
• 1:43
  Speaker 2: He's a Pacific UPS logger.
• 1:46
  Speaker 2: He also is a co-author of navigating LinkedIn for sales, which I'm currently reading in a highly recommend checking out, and really his team helps global leaders to grow their revenue on Microsoft 365.
• 1:58
  Speaker 2: But, with all that said, we're going to talk to about Brian the dad and work and learn how he is working hard to become that ultimate quarterback or leader of his household.
• 2:06
  Speaker 2: So, without further ado, mr Galicia, welcome to the quarterback dad cast.
• 2:10
  Speaker 3: Casey gosh.
• 2:11
  Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much.
• 2:12
  Speaker 3: I appreciate the very humbled on your intro.
• 2:15
  Speaker 3: Truly appreciate the opportunity and gang to know you.
• 2:18
  Speaker 3: I mean we got to know each other a little bit over the summer.
• 2:21
  Speaker 3: Still love that those different events, attorneys, quickly as we ended in Chicago.
• 2:27
  Speaker 3: I still remember having a really good dialogue in to know you a little bit better just at the O'Hare Airport.
• 2:32
  Speaker 3: And, yeah, looking forward to this being part of your podcast and sharing some words of wisdom and learning from you as well.
• 2:39
  Speaker 2: Love it and that was.
• 2:41
  Speaker 2: Was that not the best comeback in 15, 16,?
• 2:43
  Speaker 2: You a history.
• 2:45
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, and if anyone's interested, maybe Casey is part of your little deeper, if you can put it because we did, we did to your point, we did record it.
• 2:53
  Speaker 3: It is permanently immortalized.
• 2:55
  Speaker 3: It wasn't unfortunately well, not unfortunately, it was neither of our daughters hitting the game winning shot, but another person that goes to the same high school your daughter goes to.
• 3:04
  Speaker 3: It was just like amazing and, part of it, just really quick.
• 3:08
  Speaker 3: It was a team that are a team lost to earlier and it was payback because we beat this team and we're able in our bracket to come back and win whatever third play or whatever it was.
• 3:22
  Speaker 3: We were able to win the losers bracket of the attorney at Chicago, which was a fun experience for not us but our daughters.
• 3:29
  Speaker 2: So, oh, I'm going to say it was fun for me.
• 3:31
  Speaker 2: I was like I was like I was like I need a shower and I was, like you know, down 20 half and the girls found a way to come back and so fun.
• 3:39
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, 100%, All right.
• 3:42
  Speaker 2: Well, we always start every episode with gratitude, so tell me, what are you most grateful for as a dad today?
• 3:48
  Speaker 3: Oh gosh, there's so many things I grateful for when you think about we just wrapped up the holidays, we're starting 2024.
• 3:54
  Speaker 3: And I'm just grateful one that I have an amazing family, amazing beautiful wife, two daughters that two year point case they have a daughter similar age to yours, junior high school, and they're healthy, they're happy, we have a roof over our head.
• 4:09
  Speaker 3: We're not trying to navigate a war, we're not trying to navigate an illness or not well, not going to, not trying to navigate all these things.
• 4:17
  Speaker 3: And so I'm just super grateful for life.
• 4:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm a half glass bull guy.
• 4:20
  Speaker 3: No matter what's happening and in the world like there's always a learning opportunity when something doesn't go my way, I take two things.
• 4:27
  Speaker 3: One is a realize okay, it could be a lot worse.
• 4:30
  Speaker 3: Two, that whatever's happening there, it's happening for a reason and I'm learning something from it, and so I always take that into account.
• 4:38
  Speaker 3: And so when I think about gratefulness and gratitude, I love how you start off that, because that's how I try to live.
• 4:43
  Speaker 3: Life was like hey, you know what things can be a ton worse and should be just grateful for the people and the relationships, and like opportunities like this to have a conversation.
• 4:52
  Speaker 2: Love it.
• 4:52
  Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you a question.
• 4:53
  Speaker 2: I'm already my curiosity.
• 4:54
  Speaker 2: I got a fight it because I have to say what I'm grateful for.
• 4:57
  Speaker 2: But I'm going to go back to what you just said because I love how we're starting this thing off.
• 4:59
  Speaker 2: So I'm grateful for.
• 5:01
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say I'm actually grateful for this very similar thing health one, but shelter I share with Brian.
• 5:10
  Speaker 2: Right before we we had an unfortunate situation, kind of have a little little, a little bit of an attempted break in everybody over the holidays, which scared the living, you know what, out of us.
• 5:20
  Speaker 2: And thankfully, hopefully, when this episode comes out, the dude that tried this is going to be in the big house.
• 5:25
  Speaker 2: But you're not not ideal to deal with over the holidays.
• 5:29
  Speaker 2: But I'm grateful that one, you know.
• 5:32
  Speaker 2: You know I'd encourage families at home, if, if, to just sit down and talk about what would happen Worst case scenario as a family.
• 5:38
  Speaker 2: Ironically, we talked about this what would happen two days before it happened, and so I'm grateful that my son remembered what to do because he was home alone, and I'm just grateful for the resilience that that is going to come of it, and I too am an optimist.
• 5:55
  Speaker 2: I hope and pray that like we're going to never have to deal this again, but that you know.
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: But I'm glad we had a plan because it definitely helped dramatically.
• 6:04
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you, I love what you said about half glass full and finding a reason.
• 6:12
  Speaker 2: So is that how you're wired, or was that taught?
• 6:16
  Speaker 3: I think a combination of both, casey.
• 6:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's some things that happened to me as a young kid that not to go into here and I don't want to overshare, but there are certain things that if I shared broadly it would you people would be shocked Like, oh my gosh, I had no idea.
• 6:31
  Speaker 3: I think that's how I got wired.
• 6:33
  Speaker 3: And I think the thing that even my wife says, brian, you're super resilient, like it doesn't matter what's happening, like two point, we could be 20, 20 points down and I would be going and trying to be that dad on the sidelines going hey, you know what, we got this.
• 6:48
  Speaker 3: Like hey, next play, next next motion, or whatever it is.
• 6:52
  Speaker 3: Like hey, or at work, I mean, because we're both have been seller, sales leaders and all the stuff, and you know what.
• 6:58
  Speaker 3: There's going to be quarters or months or weeks or things that someone's going to say no or someone's going to basically say this was terrible or whatever it is.
• 7:07
  Speaker 3: And I always find that as like I can either dwell in the, the, the um I call it the the sadness, or get caught up in that type of stuff, and I'm like I've realized why, because otherwise you kind of reap what you sow, meaning that if you, if you have a positive mindset, a positive attitude and you have a, a, your tribe is your vibe.
• 7:31
  Speaker 1: I always tell that to my daughters and my wife is like, if you have positive people around you, guess what?
• 7:35
  Speaker 3: It's going to positivity, is going to come back to you, um, and it's going to come from a circle or into your point, gratitude, or being thoughtful on stuff.
• 7:42
  Speaker 3: Because, hey, you know what, there's people out there that need help, or people out there where you can make a difference.
• 7:46
  Speaker 3: And if you can be that person where, like I, go to Starbucks and you could tell sometimes the, the, the baristas are having a bad day, I was like, hey, how are you doing?
• 7:54
  Speaker 3: Thank you for what you're doing, thank you for showing up.
• 7:57
  Speaker 3: You can just see a difference, like all of a sudden they like it doesn't happen always, but most of the time like they're, they're mindset changes.
• 8:04
  Speaker 3: And if I can be that guy and like to change that mindset and if I can make a difference, even if it's minor things, that just kind of gives me that ability.
• 8:13
  Speaker 3: And that's why, like to your point, like why have that attitude?
• 8:15
  Speaker 3: Because I realized it's, it's served me well and it continues to serve me in a very positive way.
• 8:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.
• 8:21
  Speaker 2: It's it's hard to do, it's easy to say it's hard to do.
• 8:23
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm an optimist.
• 8:25
  Speaker 2: I always try to find positive and try to bring positivity to people.
• 8:28
  Speaker 2: And very something what you said and I think what you also described, um, something that I've um bought into, which is a difference between recognition and appreciation.
• 8:37
  Speaker 2: Um, you're just, you're doing a perfect job of just showing your appreciation, which takes time Lily took you three seconds to say that and that person was like man, I was a nice dude and you'll probably be on that person's mind for the next hour, so like, uh, nice, this guy was very thankful.
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: So I love it.
• 8:53
  Speaker 2: That's a um, I love that who you are and how you develop that skill and I'm sure, as a leader of your team of Microsoft, you're you're doing a great job of training people that way, and also just your daughters teaching that way, because I think the more that we do that dads, the more of this world's going to be a better spot to live in.
• 9:08
  Speaker 2: And you know there's many.
• 9:10
  Speaker 2: There's enough problems out there.
• 9:11
  Speaker 2: We're never going to solve them now, but if we can just put a dent in them during our time on earth, well, worlds can be a better spot.
• 9:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it, can you see, because I mean we are the, the, because eventually, both our daughters it's weird to say it because my daughter's a junior, Um, I know your daughter's one year younger but essentially a year and a half she's going to be on her own, she's going to be going off, I hope.
• 9:31
  Speaker 3: Well, whatever choice she makes, it's her choice.
• 9:33
  Speaker 3: But, to your point, we are providing her the guidance as to what choices she can make, so she makes the right choice.
• 9:42
  Speaker 3: And we always talk about consequences and sometimes consequences are not that big of a deal, but sometimes they are.
• 9:48
  Speaker 3: And when you can, to point what happened and you, I mean I loved how you, you had a plan and I think that in life as dads, that we can go do that and think of some of the things that you just kind of the, the taboo types of questions or conversations.
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: I know it's hard, but sometimes you just kind of have to have it because eventually it's better to have that conversation when they're younger or when they're in a situation to where once, if that situation does come up, they know the right and wrong or the decision, the right decision to make, like getting in a car when someone's been drinking.
• 10:24
  Speaker 3: I'm just using some examples that I've had conversation with my daughter.
• 10:27
  Speaker 3: Um, being in a car where, all of a sudden, people are you're trying to distract.
• 10:31
  Speaker 3: I mean simple things like, hey, when you're driving, you've got to be focused.
• 10:35
  Speaker 3: Like no jumping on your phone, no doing doing Instagram stories, no doing any of this stuff.
• 10:39
  Speaker 3: Like you got to be responsible, um, and so those types of things, to your point of putting those plans in place so that, when it happens, the people that look up to you as a dad have the ability to make the right choice.
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: Love it?
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: Nope, so true, all right.
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: Well, I'd love to go inside the Gleisha Huddle and maybe share how you and your wife met and then talk a little bit about your daughters and what they're up to right now.
• 11:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I met my wife actually in college.
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: So you mentioned like we were talking about kind of pre-show.
• 11:11
  Speaker 3: You went to Central Washington, I went to University of Virginia Sound, so I didn't play sports like you do.
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: Well, kind of I did intramurals and I don't have dismissed that because it was dedication to go with my fraternity and all that stuff to go in there and play competitive.
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: I played competitive basketball and we'll say that not to toot my own horn, but we won multiple basketball tournaments in our fraternity and co-ed as well, because I had known I played on a pure men's or teenage boy at the time, but we also had a co-ed team and we were won multiple times.
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: So that was fun.
• 11:44
  Speaker 3: But I met my wife in college.
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: I'm two years older than her and yeah, and we dated off and on and made the decision like, hey, she's the right person.
• 11:52
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to screw around and figure out oh, come on, oh, I should have, should have married that person, realize?
• 11:58
  Speaker 3: No, this is the person I was meant to be with.
• 12:00
  Speaker 3: And so I just stayed in the area and, fortunately enough, she decided to stay with me.
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: She's from California and she decided oh, you know what, I'm going to move away from the sun permanently and live in the Northwest.
• 12:13
  Speaker 3: And we both you know, I guess we both I mean, we live here for a reason because it is beautiful, it doesn't rain all the time, like people think.
• 12:19
  Speaker 3: But yeah, and so we decided to be married for several years before we had kids.
• 12:24
  Speaker 3: That was a conscious choice and I look back going oh, that was an amazing decision because we were able to spend.
• 12:30
  Speaker 3: We were already really good friends and we were dating for a long time, but it gave us really quality time to have a strong marriage before anything else, because you can imagine, when you have kids, it changes dramatically, yeah, and not just with one, but if you decide to have two or three, or whatever it is, and of course, I know you have two and I have two as well.
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: It was just an amazing experience to be a father, and my youngest was born in 2006, and it was the same year I joined Microsoft.
• 12:57
  Speaker 3: And the quick story is I had a successful role at a company called SAP and for those of you in the tech industry probably very familiar with the behemoth of all things business process or the ERP, Enterprise Resource Planning there were the kingpin dwinchpin of that, and so I had a very successful role.
• 13:17
  Speaker 3: But I was traveling a lot, and we all have been in that situation where when you're gone, it's sometimes fun, but when you're trying to raise a family and your story's starting out, it's not fun.
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: One, because you're missing out on key milestones, but two, it's not fair to the spouse because guess who's taking care of an infant?
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: The wife or whoever staying at home.
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: And so I made a conscious decision.
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: I decided to leave, and SAP was really surprised that, like what you're leaving?
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: Like what do we have to do?
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: I'm like, well, nothing, because for me to stay in a selling role, I have to travel and I can't do that anymore.
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: So I actually went to the people I sold to.
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: Microsoft was one of my clients, so I said hey you know what Microsoft?
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: I need to change in scenery.
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: What could I do?
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: And they said well, I don't know about sales, but you sold this thing to us, so why don't you implement it?
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: Okay, I was never in IT, but I took a job in IT and it was probably.
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: It was a hard experience because, as a seller and sales leader, I'm like I'm not to say IT is a bad thing it wasn't, but that's just not my gig.
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: I'm a very people like the UK, so I'm a very people oriented person.
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: And, granted, you deal with people in IT, but you're not dealing with the external side and you're solving problems, but you're solving problems internally and so then, so anyway, long story short, I took a job at Microsoft and that's how old the length I've been at Microsoft is how old my oldest daughter is, and so it's kind of like this amazing experience.
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: I've been at Microsoft 17 years, which is how old my daughter is, and I reflect going wow, that is just to be at a company for one period of time for 17 years.
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: I look back and I didn't think I was going to be here this long, and so my oldest is a junior in high school and my youngest is a middle schooler.
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: She'll be in high school it's hard to believe.
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: My oldest will be a senior and my youngest will be a freshman the same high school, and so they're just thriving.
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: My oldest still plays basketball, like yours, my youngest unfortunately.
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: Not unfortunately, but she decided that she wanted to pause.
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure if she's going to go back.
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: She was playing in a select team for a high school but she just realized hey, you know what, I want to try something different, which is great.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: As a dad, it was a little disappointed, I mean behind the scenes, like because I'd love to see both my daughters play for the same high school team or a team, but that didn't occur.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: So who knows if that's going to occur?
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: But yeah, two daughters.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: And then I have two dogs, two golden retrievers, which you can imagine a household with, and there guess what?
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: The golden retrievers are girl dogs too.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: So I'm a girl dad, I am end to end, I'm the only boy in the house, I'm the only man in the house.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: So anyway, hopefully that gives you a little context in my spouse and my two daughters that just adored and very proud and grateful because they're just thriving, they're doing well in school and they just have made good choices.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: So good, love it.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, I actually have.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: We have golden tree or I recetter.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: So there are 11 year old Stella.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: We lost Jenny this summer and then we just we have a new puppy named Harley and she's like six months old and, oh my God, she's the frickin, probably one of the best dogs I've ever had.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: But it's like it's.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: It's funny when you lose a dog you're like, oh my God, the world's ending, and then somehow you get another one and they that loves right back where you know.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: But they're hard to hard, to hard to say goodbye to.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'd love to go back in time and have you share what was life like growing up for you, for what you can share, and talk about the impact your parents had on you now that you're a dad.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I grew up in Portland, oregon, and I am first generation American citizen.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: So my parents are both Filipino, so they grew up and born and raised in the Philippines and for those of you who are listening, who come from an ethnic family, it's different, much, much different.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: So, especially in a Filipino family, where hard work and awards and recognition and straight A's, all stuff was ingrained in my soul, which sometimes is a good thing, which creates my work ethic and my resilience, but sometimes it was a little over the top because nothing, unfortunately, was ever good enough.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: Sometimes for my family or my parents, they're like oh great, you got an A.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Well, how come you didn't get an A plus?
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Or how come you didn't get this?
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: Or hey, where's the award?
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: How come you didn't get this award?
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: How come you didn't do this?
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: And so that was a little bit hard.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: I'm not going too many details, that was a little bit hard to kind of swallow, but it really defined me because, to your point, casey, it created that resilience and peace to go and go one.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: How can I define what I want to do?
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: So I break the cycle.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: So I'm not that to my kids, because there's a certain point where you are who you are as a dad or a father figure, or whatever it is because of your upbringing, and that's totally true with me and what happened to me I did not want to define to my daughters.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: And I'll give you a good example Both my parents again when you think about the work ethic worked super hard.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: So my father was an Assurant Disambraner for the state of Oregon and he traveled all the time.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: Like in my teenage years, I never saw him because he was on the road, he was gone.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: And so for critical events like I ran cross country, I played basketball not very competitively in high school, but I played and so it was one of those things I look in the stands going oh no one was there.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: I just figured out that my friends took me to stuff, and so my mom was a nurse manager at a hospital that was really close to my house and that defined her Like she literally would spend the work waking up, morning, moments of the morning to the evening working, and so she would come home, make dinner and then she would just restart again.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: But she missed the opportunity.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: She didn't have the opportunity to go engage because she just was super busy with work and my dad was home.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: So it for me, when I look back and going you know what, when I become a dad, I don't want that to be the experience that I want for my daughters, and so that's why I was telling a little bit of story with Microsoft, where I left a very good job working at SAP.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: We're at a good trajectory to go there, and I'm like you know, I don't want to have that same experience for my daughters, and so I purposely made a choice to take less money to do something totally different that was outside, outside of my comfort level, to just support what I believed in its end.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: To this day I have no regrets to what I want to do.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: So that gives a little backstory because it just, and I'm authentically, I'm very appreciative of what my, my parents had had given to me.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: They're both still alive, but I'm not as close with them because it's just, it's hard to relate to them because their priorities of certain things that they valued, is not what I value, and so it's hard to have conversations because they ask about certain things that, for me, I don't really care about.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: I'd rather have a conversation about how things are happening in the family and it's not actually just more of, hey, how are people doing, like really getting to know the experience and the journey not necessarily that you're trying to strive for something just because you got an award or you got some recognition.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: That's important, but what's more important is the journey and the life lessons and the conversations and experience in the relationships you're building.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Wow, it does make sense.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: I mean being in the tech industry for years and knowing what it takes to work at Microsoft or Amazon or Google.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: It takes some grittiness and resilience and think on your feet and you're now learning a little bit more about you.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Did I hear you right?
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: You say so.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Your mom and dad were first generation.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: They actually immigrated from the Philippines here to.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: They first went into Canada, and this was back in the 60s, and then they moved and, fortunately, got sponsored by the hospital in an accounting company that my dad worked for, and then eventually, and if you can believe it, they moved to a city called Primeville, oregon.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: And for those of you who don't know, oh, they said pride.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: I was like, well, that's serendipitous.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I know no Primeville, which is just out of Bend Oregon.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: So for those of you who kind of know Oregon, geography, central Oregon, bend Oregon is like a hotspot for, like in the summer, rafting a whole bunch of outdoor stuff.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: And then the winter is great because there's Mount bachelor, it's a big ski resort there, and so outside of Bend is a city called Primeville, and so that's where my parents originally moved to, where they had my old.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: I'm a the youngest of three, three kids.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: I have an older sister and older brother, and then when they moved to Portland, because my mom got a job at a hospital, then my dad got his job at the suit of Oregon, so he was coming to Salem all the time if it wasn't traveling, and then my mom was working at a local hospital in Portland, oregon area and I was born in Portland and literally the house I grew up in and we just sold the house to care for my parents, because now that they're in a spot in their life where they can't live safely on their own so they're in a memory care facility out where my sister lives on the East Coast we had to sell their house to ensure that they have care for however long they have for their remaining life.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: And so it was serendipitous to kind of go through that process of cleaning out the house, doing all that stuff and it's selling it because that was literally the only house that I have ever lived in.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: I know some people have different journeys.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Because some people move around like there are an army family or military family.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: Their parents just moved.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: I was one of those kids that, literally from the day I was born into, when I graduated, or just recently, because we just sold the house just this year Literally that house is the only house I've ever knew in my lifetime.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: So Well.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: We have more in common.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I know all too much about caring for a parent.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: I took me and my wife took care of my dad for her 20 years before he passed away in December 29, 2021, in and out of Cicada living facilities, memory care at the end of life Not an easy journey, bro.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: So my heart goes out to you guys.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: It's you'll actually read about it in chapter eight.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: I talk about winning the relationship.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: We'll win the relationship with my dad, not the dementia.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: My dad at one point accused me of stealing all his money to build a house.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: You know it's like, oh, you're right, the hard knife is the hard.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: But it's like I had to realize that's the disease, that's not him.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: But the blessing was at the end of his life.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: It was almost like the dementia went away.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: It was the most bizarre, surreal experience.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: And then, thankfully, I was on, I went, I almost had caregiver burnout at times because it was just got so exhausting.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: And then, at the end of life, I spent every day with him for about a month and was there for his last breath and is you know?
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: So I know too well about the journey you're on and if, maybe, when we get offline.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: I'm more happy to share like resources of things that really helped us, cause my dad, we had to like essentially sell everything to get him into Medicaid and once you get on Medicaid it wasn't the best.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: So I'm more happy to share kind of what things we've learned along the way, cause it's it takes an army.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I appreciate that, casey, yeah Cause I think all of us as dads too, like eventually it's gonna happen to us.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: And I think we've had those conversations with our kids Like, hey, so these are the things you have to be prepared for.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: And the thing that we want my wife and I are making sure we have very clearly in place is that they don't have to struggle with trying to figure out like, oh my gosh, how am I going to pay for this care or how are we going to do those things.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: So that cause that's what my sister and my siblings had to figure out is like when you were going through Casey is like like they had their Romanian income, was the house, and so like, okay, we got to sell this so that at least we can burn down the cost of what that is for however long they live.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: And if they outpace that Romanian balance, cause they own their house, which is very fortunate then what do we do?
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: And then, to your point, medicaid, medicare kicks in and do we put them in a place that allows them to have that continuity of care to go do that?
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and fortunately enough, I think.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Well, my sister, who was the one, has been the one cause they moved to the East coast to go do that.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: But, yeah, it's one of those things that it really puts life in perspective, because you realize that these phases of life that you're going through now that we're at our certain age, then we're running into that situation with aging parents and what do you do with it and how do you accommodate for it?
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: And, to your point, you have to separate, like what they're telling you when they have a certain type of disease.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: You're talking about it's that's not them, but it comes out and so you can't take it personally.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: And that's the thing I struggle with is that sometimes it's the stuff that I did share on the podcast but that impacted me.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: It makes it hard to go through that with my parents, especially my father.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, thoughts and prayers with you, buddy.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Hope it's a smoother, a smooth process.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Adakira, ask you what prompted mom and dad to want to come to United States or Canada, then to United States.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the biggest thing like everyone, especially back in the day, it's just an opportunity.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: They really realized like, hey, you know what?
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: We're gonna start a family.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Because none of my siblings were born in the Philippines.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: My brother was born in Canada, in Vancouver, which is kind of for people who, in the geography, were in the state of Washington.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Just outside of the Northern border of Washington is a city called Vancouver, or BC, british Columbia.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: That's where my brother was born, and so I think for them they just realized that, hey, they wanted to provide an opportunity.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: It's like the American dream.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: They wanted to provide an opportunity and they thought, okay, what country is gonna be able to do that?
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: United States.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: And so they out of both my parents, because my parents had pretty large families, especially my mom.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: My mom is one of eight kids and so my mom was actually one of the first people on her side of the family become a US citizen, and so she created the opportunity to like the time before and she moved to Canada.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: She was the first one out of the family in the Philippines to move to Canada and so she started to sponsor her parents and all the siblings to go to Canada and they just by chance were able to jump another step and go from Canada to the United States, and they just recognized that.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Hey, you know what I want?
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: An opportunity for my kids.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: And it was one of the things interesting too, as a side note, when you think about the a culture like the Philippines.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: They wanted to teach me their native language, which is called Tagalog, which is it's a Spanish.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: It's very Spanish derivative, so anyone who speaks Spanish.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: You go to the Philippines, you probably can speak the native language because it's so similar.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: But my parents purposely decided not to teach me their language because they didn't want to have me have an accent.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: So if you know any Filipinos like, especially ones that are pure Filipinos that have recently immigrated, there's a unique accent, like any Asian culture, there's unique access to it and people don't recognize I'm Filipino because they kind of may know, because my last name is very Filipino, so it's very Spanish.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: People think I'm Hispanic or Spanish, but when I say I'm Filipino, then I go, oh, that makes sense.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: But I'm like well, you don't speak, you don't have an accent.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, there's a reason, because my parents chose not to, and I am a little sad about that because part of that culture kind of went away.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: And I want to figure out well, what opportunity can I bring back?
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: And my daughter, my oldest daughter actually wants to go to the Philippines because she wants to embrace the culture, she wants to learn about these, like, hey, dad, have you been there?
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: I'm like.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: I, fortunately enough, have been there three times and I went there recently as an adult, because I've been there as a kid but had never gone there as an adult.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: And I was able to do that on behalf of Microsoft because we had a Microsoft thing that was happening there a couple of years ago.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: Best experience ever to go into kind of my immersing myself in a culture that I grew up in, but immersing myself as an adult to really experience what that culture's like in the native country that my parents grew up in, so Did you get to meet any of your family over there?
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: I did not at the time because I was.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: I only had four days there and unfortunately, all four days was like me, deep, like you can imagine.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: As you know, working at a tech company like Microsoft you don't get any downtime.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: You're like going in, you're doing your thing and then you leave.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: So I did not get a chance and the one thing is the only direct family I have is my mom has a sister that still lives there, but I was not able to actually connect with her and her family.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: I thought she was out there but got to learn, got to know a lot of the Microsoft people there and the culture, so, which is very cool.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: So your parents pushed you?
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Is that a?
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Is that a?
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Is that a?
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: This is a naively.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Is that culturally?
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Is that, is that a common way of life from the Filipino culture like press, hard press?
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: It is from a standpoint of academics, and recognition is a big thing, and so if you talk to any Filipinos, or Asians too I don't want to generalize it, but in the Filipino culture one respect your elders, work hard and that recognition will eventually come.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: And I think, as a dad, and also just in tech, I realized that it doesn't always work that way.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: And I say that because even at Microsoft, I had some great mentors and managers that told me hey, brian, like you're too nice, but also you got to self advocate, you got to ask for what you want, because even your hard work and you're doing great work, but if you don't see anything, it's never gonna come out.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: And I was like, what do you mean by that?
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: And then I recognized that I'm like, wow, I was getting passed up for promotions.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Right, you're getting passed up for recognition, like Microsoft has a whole bunch of awards that they give to people.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: And I thought at the time there was one thing I was doing in a role that I thought I was doing an amazing job at, and people were telling me that.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: And then I was like, oh, who's gonna win it?
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: And it wasn't me.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: And I realized, well, what just happened.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: And then some other person finally gave me what I said to him Brian, well, did you ever ask for it?
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: I said no because I thought just by doing hard work, that was just gonna recognize it.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: And it's like, no, that's not how it works here.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: And that was a rude awakening because I think sometimes people who aren't in the kind of the background that I have and it's that lived experience when you don't do that, then you kind of have to play in a different it's a different ball game.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: It's like playing chess and checkers.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: When someone gave me that awareness that allowed me to kind of go oh, that makes sense.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: And the good news is I was I'm able to instill that to my daughters in a way too.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: It's like, hey, can you know what?
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: We had this brief conversation about basketball, casey, about my daughter, and it's like sometimes you just have to go to the coach and say something in a polite, in a respectful way, and it's not about other people, it's about, hey, what can I do?
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: It's never about comparing yourself.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Oh, why did this person get this?
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Like no, no, no.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: It's about hey, you know what?
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: I want to be able to do this.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: What can I do to get a promotion or get this type of thing.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: And I've shared that with my daughters and saying, hey, you know what In life?
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: You know it was gonna get the things you want, but if you don't ask, guess what?
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: The answer is always no yeah.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: And the worst thing it's sometimes like that goes against me because my daughters go.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Oh Dad, I want this.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: I'm like no, it's like, well, I wanted to ask you and so, it's funny, they now take that as an opportunity to I want this for Christmas or whatever it is.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: And it's like that's outside the reasonable bounds of asking I want this, whatever it is, and so anyway.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: But it's good that they're kind of have that DNA to ask those questions.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: You said in the very beginning, these are like hard things to learn, but also it can be obviously very tough on maybe someone's mind or how growing up.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: But also there's good things that came out of it Besides.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: So besides, like you know, the resiliency you've learned, were there other like core values that you learned growing up that you've applied with your kids.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I think core values would be surround yourself with really good people, because I was fortunate enough when I was growing up.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: I have three close friends that I still keep in very close contact with and people go oh my gosh, you still stay in touch with high school people.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: I'm like, absolutely, because you think about the experience, not just in high school, but there's one person in particular to your point, like when I was selling my parents' house, this person was instrumental.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: His him and his family were instrumental in it.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Because I don't live in Portland that's where I grew up, and my parents in this house I'm like, oh my gosh, what am I gonna go do?
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: Because I have a family, I have a job.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: I can't be in Portland 24 by seven to go get this house in order and do all the stuff.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: And so all my friends stepped up, but this one friend in particular really stepped up to just help me.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: So like, hey, brian, what do you need?
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Like I'm here, like take advantage of me being here.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: And it was amazing because he was able to do a whole bunch of stuff that gave me one piece of mind that I didn't have to feel like I had to be down there every weekend to go do something, and during the week he was able to take care of stuff that I didn't have to go, drop everything and then go down there.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: And so I think that's one is just kind of saying, hey, you know what?
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Who are people that you can surround yourself, that will uplift you or support your dreams and stuff, because it's hard to be in a dad and having been a dad of two daughters, especially my oldest one, who's dating and all that stuff.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: It's like it's super hard and I'm sure the dads let's see this who kind of relate, but when you're a dad of a daughter you just kind of have other things that you have to be thought, because we're all men, we're all boys, we're all teenagers at one point or another, and so instilling yourself like, hey, you got to surround yourself with good people and you think that's one thing that I've been very grateful for in the fact that so far so good, that both my daughters have surrounded themselves with good people, like people that you can trust, people that you've had at their homes.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: You get to know their family, you get to know them personally and they kind of you kind of become a father figure or a mother figure, like my wife is super close to many of the girlfriends that my daughters have, and that's what you want.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: I think the other one is that it goes back into hey, things happen for a reason and so embracing the suck People have heard that term is like sometimes things aren't gonna go your way and so you kind of and I still listen to my kids is like sometimes you're not gonna get a varsity or you're not going to get straight A's or you're not going to whatever it is in life.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: There's something in there that you're gonna learn from, and what you learn from that is one don't make that mistake again if it's something that you don't wanna repeat.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: But two, embrace that opportunity because if you don't fail like if you have that feel of failure you're never gonna learn anything.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: And so always putting, trying to put yourself out there and going you know what oh, I've never done this before like I applied for a job and you're like, oh, dad, well, why would I apply for the job if I don't have experience?
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: I'm like, well, guess what?
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: No one in life is gonna be perfect at a job.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Like no one all of a sudden wakes up and goes I'm gonna be the CEO of Microsoft.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: But some people have that mindset because they realize that's our goal.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: So having that mindset to say, okay, that's gonna be my goal.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: What am I gonna do to surround myself with good people?
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: What am I gonna do to surround myself with learning opportunities, to get to set myself up so that when the timing's right, I can get me put in that place to go?
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: Do that Not just for myself but hopefully for my daughters as they mature and become amazing women and whatever they decide to do.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Hello everybody.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: My name is Craig Coe and I'm the Senior Vice President of Relationship Management for Beeline.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: For more than 20 years, we've been helping Fortune 1000 companies drive a competitive advantage with their external workforce.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: In fact, beeline's history a first to market innovations has become today's industry standards.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I get asked all the time what did Casey do for your organization?
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: And I say this it's simple.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: The guy flat out gets it.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Relationships matter, his down to earth presentation, his real world experience applied to every area of our business.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: In fact, his book when the Relationship and Not the Deal has become required reading for all new members of the Global Relationship Management Team.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: If you'd like to know more about me or about Beeline, please reach out to me on LinkedIn.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: And if you don't know Casey Jcox, go to CaseyJcoxcom and learn more about how he can help your organization.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Now let's get back to today's episode.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: What was the so the things you talked about starting yourself great people.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: You learned maybe growing up and then now you're.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Obviously you taught you and your wife, I taught your daughters that You've gone through some resiliency made the good and the bad Are there.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Is there a story where you've had to apply that with your daughters that really kind of further cemented that learning moment that you could share with them?
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Do you think?
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think just what we had over copy a couple of weeks ago, it was like my oldest daughter's been having some.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: Just her high school basketball experience has been, I would just say, challenging, and it's one of those things that you just never know, because you don't get to choose a coach in that type of scenario, and so it ends up being, hey, you know what You're dealt, the card you're dealt, and so what can you do to go ensure that you have that?
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: And so it's this ongoing conversation I've had ever since we had that conversation.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: This is ongoing conversation.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: I think a lot of it is just being hey, you know what, megan, you have to make a decision on what you want to do and what are the things that are gonna help you achieve where you wanna go.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: So if it truly is basketball, basketball is gonna be part of your life post high school then you gotta fight for it.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: You gotta figure out what are other ways that you can go dry the conversations and the communication to go advocate for what you want.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: So advocating is a big thing like meaning that, and she does that in school too, which is good.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: It's like, hey, you know what Early on, especially as you started to where grades start to count in middle school, and it's hard to say it's like middle school, county, like at least here in our school district your grades in middle school start to count and so into what you define as when you get your GP and all that stuff.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: And so, as in my kid, both my daughters are fortunate to have really good students and when they were struggling in certain classes, I said hey, you know what Megan like?
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Have you talked to your teacher?
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: And they at first, when she was younger, she was like dad, why would I?
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: I'm like well, it's because you wanna.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Basically, it's okay to say that you don't understand something.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: It's okay to ask questions.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: People don't ask for help.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: They ask for help, Like I think, in your spot on case.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: I think too often in life people feel like, oh my gosh, I can't ask for help.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: That's like a football, I'm like, as I mentioned, like what I was doing with my family and dealing with what my sister and I were trying to deal with my parents.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: I'm like, if you don't ask for help, guess what?
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: You're alone.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: And in life you're never alone.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, fortunately enough, we have amazing spouses and kids and all that stuff and probably have a really good set of friends.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: And it's like that in life, from when you're a young person to now, especially any dad listening to this, it's like, whatever you're struggling with, you gotta find a tribe, find people that are relatable, find your friends or find people that you can have a conversation with and ask for help.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: And I think that's the other thing too.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: Is that moment of?
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm getting older, I'm almost 50.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: And I think about how my body is changing.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: It's changed ever since I turned 40.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: But as you get older, you're like, oh my gosh, there's certain things that are happening and so you just gotta take care of yourself.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: You gotta realize, okay, there's certain things that have to happen and you can't do it alone.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: So what I mean by that is like you go into physician, and physicians are not just the body, but it's also the mind.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: And so I first and foremost people think, oh, counseling, that's a bad word, I'm like not necessarily, because being able to have an open conversation with a professional about what's happening in your life, whatever that is, it's actually freeing.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: And I thought originally, oh, can I talk to?
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: When I, several years ago, before I go to counselor, my wife went to a counselor.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: She's like Brian, why don't you?
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: go to a counselor.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: I'm like, why would I?
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: I'm like that shows weakness.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: I'm like.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: Then I realized well, why wouldn't I go to a doctor for my daily checkup?
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: I go to all these.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: I go to a dentist, I have my teeth clean.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: I'm like, why wouldn't I go to a counselor to have my ability to have stuff in my head cleared out?
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: And so I tried to instill that my kids too, to say you know what, to your point, it's okay to ask for help, it's okay to tell us or tell someone that something's wrong and that you need support.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: And if they're the right person, again it goes back into the vibe as your tribe, the good people.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: If you're surrounding yourself with good people, guess what?
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: They're not gonna judge you, they're not gonna care.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: They're like, oh my gosh.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: They're gonna say, hey, casey, how can I help, brian, how can I help?
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: And that is the best type of people that you want to surround yourself with.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: And that's what that longevity, like the friends I made when I was a little kid.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: I haven't endured that because, no matter what's happened in your life, I could pick up the phone with these three people and tell them anything, and they would just listen.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: They wouldn't judge me, they wouldn't care, they would just listen, and that's what I wanted.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: So my daughters were like, hey, you're gonna have this window of people you're investing time in and so invest in the right people.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: Because if you're investing in the right people like friends are gonna come and go, but eventually those people some of them are gonna be your lifelong friends and they're gonna be there up and down.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Well, kelly and Darren, who you know.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: I've known them since junior high, grown up.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: I have many high school friends I'm still close with.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Anything what you talked about there describes the power of vulnerability.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: I lean in on vulnerability my whole life.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: I'm almost 52.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: I think vulnerability is a sign of strength.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: The people that don't ask for help they're the ones that have the problems.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: I think the people that do ask for help are the ones that fix themselves, and I think what a great gift we, as dads, can give our kids when they see us ask for help.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Like I make fun of myself.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Like if you Googled like worst handyman and click images, you might see my face.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Like that's not my.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: I suck at fixing things.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: I don't have the engineering mind to do it and usually my go-to is like well, how many words can you type per minute?
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Or how many people can you speak in front of?
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: That's what I can do, good at, right.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: But we all got our strengths and weaknesses.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Instead of like feeling bad about it and lying, pretending that we, like you, hired a pilot or you guys had pilots to fly to the Philippines.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: You didn't try to flight yourself.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: You've been in the ocean, that's right.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: And so I think, like Darren was a previous guest on like episode once, like nine you're gonna be episode like two, almost 250, believe and we talked about like the power of saying you're sorry.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: So like those types of things like realizing that you know, no one's perfect.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: We're all flawed, we all have gaps, but let's, the sooner that we just own it and then fix it, life becomes a lot easier.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Like you said to your word freeing, you know this frame mm-hmm, and I've actually interviewed multiple people that talked about dads who got depressed and have sought therapy and by the time this episode comes out, well, it'll be the first time in five years We've had women on the podcast.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: This is always for dads.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah but I'm, I'm interviewing it's dr Michelle Watson.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: When it comes out she's she serves and she counsels, you know, for marriage, divorce, but speaks at many like large father dad conferences and so I was like excited to have her on just kind of like, you know, shake up the who the guests are, but also just serve the dad's in a different way through, instead of like stories work the same but just do something a little different.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: So I Love you doing that.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: Casey.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: One is for great diversity, but it's also perspective, because I think when you get different perspectives From different angles, that gives you the broader point of view.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: I know you're a sports guy, former quarterback Can you think about like playing football, like you got to see the entire field and guess what?
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: Like when you're playing quarterback, you see one perspective because you're on the field and you have a coach in the box Seeing a total different thing that you're you can't see, and so I think that's I love how you do that, because when you can get Different perspectives from different people and learn from that, that's such a Opportunity.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: Again, learning I'm a girl, have that growth mindset and I know this cliche, but you can have a growth mindset in life, especially as a dad and go, you know what?
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: You're never gonna be a perfect dad and no, your kids are gonna always surprise you in a good and a bad way sometimes.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: And there's no book, so you kind of have to just kind of roll with the punches and learn.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: There's no manual.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: We all leave Not qualified and leave the hospital like you're really letting me take this thing home.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: I'm not qualified.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: This is not a good idea, doctor.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, our parents figured it out.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: We'll figure it out, others will figure it out, that's right.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: If you were to so one.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: I wanted one question I was like asking dads is an area, their dad game, where they know might not be their best or they struggle a little bit that might we might build to relate to other dads?
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: And I'll maybe I'll leave my witness here, my mind I struggle with.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: I've gotten better through, I think, these conversations.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: This being a competitive person, my gap is patience and I can feel it when it gets like kind of fired up, and I can figure out when it's like oh no, I'm, you know Like I'm in mind of, like dude, it's not that big a deal, just chill out, and I really self-talk my way out of it.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Or my wife will say hey, dude, You're being a dipshit, chill out, I like you're right, I am my bad, and then and then I'll use that thankfully, because I've triggered my mind and train my mind you be like okay, not either.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: I pity Patty in the corner and go feel sorry for myself.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Or I go say, hey guys, dad was not as best right there, my bad, you know, and try to get there, forget, like ask for forgiveness and that in that and only it's freeing for me, I'm also teaching them a lesson that you can forgive, ask for forgiveness and apologize.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: So now that I've let my witness tell me what is an area your dad game that you're working hard to become that better leader, you're home.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I appreciate it, Casey.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: I think one thing is is like, especially dad, sometimes I'm a big car guy and so I like things very meticulous, like if you were to go in my car, like I think for most bad it's very clean.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: Like if I had an opportunity to wash my car all the time it's therapeutic, I like I love washing my car because it's like get all the dirt off and it looks clean.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: It's when I became well.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: First one I married my mice, my, my spouse.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, granted, she's amazing, it's not that way.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: So when I go in her car there is Like water bottles, there is wrappers, there is stuff sitting in her vehicle that that my OCD goes.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I kind of just trash all this stuff, it cuz I just, and she's okay with it, but just because about that stuff bothers me, or Like the thing about Kirby and I don't know, maybe some people listening to the podcast were late when my, my wife or my daughter, my oldest, are, who's driving she's 17, so she's been driving for a year when they curved their wheel.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it's like it's just because it you can't do anything about it, because you basically curved the wheel.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: So you either pay a couple hundred dollars to have some fixer, you just kind of leave it alone.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: And so what I've learned over time, casey, is that when my kids were younger they were not Like their kids.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: So they open the doors, I slam and oh look, they would put tents in the car and that would bother me so much because, like driving a car, I'm like, oh my gosh, there's like a huge dent on my door.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: And so my OCD was like you know what I got to get a little protector and do all the stuff.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: So it never happened again.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: But then I realized, like what, what is there anything to that?
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: Like, why does it matter?
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: Because it doesn't at the end of the day doesn't matter, not really.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: And so it's the imperfection.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: Sometimes the imperfection is the perfection, or I mean me, I mean.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: I just made that up, but that's the thing I constantly work on and that's gotten better, where stuff like like my daughter I mean, she's driving a used car and we bought her a safe one and I just walked out and I noticed, oh my gosh, she curved a wheel, because in our high school I mean I'm not sure if it is like in your high school, for the high school you live in Maple Valley but in when we live, our high school the parking lot is super narrow in some spots and so she just took, took the corner too tight, because I've seen it, I've seen so many people.
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: You walk out of her basketball gym and you see people do that, you hear that Because happens all the time.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: It's super dark and people don't realize this curve there, and so I realized you know what, not a big deal and doesn't bother me, I'm not gonna fix it.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, whatever it is, what is, and I think that's where I just Can, because they, they know that about me and so they're very cautious.
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: But then the day is like you know what, doesn't matter, yeah, so it's like those little things that I my time spent my time, attention to be focused on so many other things which I'm not perfect, to your point, but I've learned where, where I was 15 years ago when my kids were super young, totally here.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: So Love it.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: I'm sure there's many dads at home that can this young, old, middle-aged, the, the unnecessary freak out.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: That doesn't, you know, doesn't need to be.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: No, here's a perfect example.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: Like my son last night, like he decides to go work out like at 815 at night and he didn't get home like 945.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: And my first thought was like dude, why couldn't you go like at 7 and get home at like 830?
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Then you're getting it.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: But he's almost to see the senior high school is gonna be gone.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: And my wife's like, does it really matter?
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: Like Well, kind of, because I get up early with the kids and I don't want to, I send it to annoying.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Like hey, bud, get up, but in the end it still doesn't matter.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: He's with a friend, he's exercising, he's healthy, he's safe, he got home on time.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: He like I'm like dude, chill out, not a big deal, you know.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: So I mean this.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: That's therapeutic for me, just like saying this to you.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: It's my selfishly, that's why I did the podcast.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Everybody serve you, but I'm also serving myself.
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: I Love it.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: It's a great way case because you know, if you're verbalize it, then it becomes like it's kind of like a Counseling session in a way this is like you're laying it out and just Laying that pressure that's built up, go free, and probably freeing by you saying that.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: So yeah, 100%.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: I totally is Okay if you were to summarize, if you were to summarize kind of what we've talked about the dads can take from our conversation today and, like your two or three actionable thoughts or Mindset, tricks or lessons that they can use to try to implement in their life to become that L ultimate or better quarterback of our home.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: Brian, tell me what comes to mind.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing is communication, casey.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: I think it is, I mean, what you have with your spouse.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: What I have with my spouse and my kids is having open communication.
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: And it's always gonna depend because personalities and all stuff like some kids want to talk, some kids don't but Having that opportunity where you're always there so they know that they can have a conversation, and not just for your, your kids, but like having that conversation with your spouse and having that open dialogue to where it's kind of like that feedback at your point, like I am one of those leaders at work that takes feedback in a very positive way.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: It's like you know what nothing's taboo, like you can tell me anything.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: Like if I'm not being that best leader to you, then Tell me, give specific examples and but that's what I want.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: It's like don't just have generalities, don't just do what I like if you're gonna say something, do it pretty close in the moment, because if you tell me six months from now, go and hey, that thing you did six months ago sucked, I'm like okay, well, I can't do it much about it now Cuz I haven't six months ago.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: So open communication I think is so critical in life in general, because when you hide stuff or you don't, it's that Unsend word, then you misinterpret something and then it just gets worse.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: Um, I think the other one is that, well, how about we just talked about embrace the imperfection, like nothing's gonna be perfect and so if you try to be that perfect dad, that will never happen.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: I think that's what that's a great thing to aspire to is like, hey, what can we do to have the highest probability to be that best father or father figure, dad to whoever you're a dad to.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: But I think if you can embrace the fact that life is a journey, there's gonna be, things are gonna happen that are not gonna go the way that you want it to.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: So just know that it kind of what we're talking about to use your tribe, use the people around.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: You have them.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: And if you don't Go, figure out ways whether it's a new friend you can build or a professional something you have to have an outlet.
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: You have to, yeah, have that ability to talk to someone or people that are relatable, and it doesn't have to be a man, it doesn't have to be another dad, it could be to your point of that, but that that woman who's a counselor.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: It could be someone like that.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: I might my my my counselor is actually a woman and I purposely chose that because I thought Do I want to have a man be a counselor to me?
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: Or like no, because I want a different perspective.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: I'd rather tell that to a woman who doesn't know anything about me and as it's not a dad and I can share certain things that are happening in my life that is maybe father-related and maybe not, that gets me that unique thing.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: So anyway, those are a couple of, hopefully, key takeaways.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: If people listen to this and got some value out of it.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: Those are things I would say to think about and embrace and work on, because it's not it's, it's a life journey, and I, when I say that you can't just overnight do something, you have to, what's your point?
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: Like work, figure out, what can you constantly work on and aspire to make 1% better.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: How do I make it 1% better than what just happened?
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Love it.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: I will summarize what you said.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: And gets the power of grace.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Give yourself grace.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: People want change, people want that.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: We want it now, you want it.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: But it's like that, if you want it now and you get it now, it's not gonna last.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: So, like Embrace, like Brian talked about the imperfection of like you're gonna, the struggle might take a while but learning is always in the struggle.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: There's a great quote by Tony Bennett, the former wazoo coach, now at Virginia, talks about summarizing but he says life adversity is life's golden ticket and Very kind of.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: You've summarized out here about like you know the lessons when something bad happens.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: May I think about it.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: Something happened to me at 17 years old as a playing football that still positively impacts me to this day and it still was one of the hardest things ever went through, but I'm grateful I went through.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: It wasn't fun at the time.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: I'm so grateful I went through it now.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: So Okay, before we go into the lightning round, which is, I go completely random on you, I want to make sure that how do people if people are listening at home they're like people always see know who Microsoft is, but if they don't know what you're doing at Microsoft and they want to connect with it.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: They want to learn more about how can they get this, get the copy of navigating LinkedIn for sales.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: Tell me a little bit about, well, tell us about a little bit about what you do at Microsoft and how they can learn more about.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Get your book.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and that takes Casey for giving me that opportunity.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: So one is that you and I huge on LinkedIn.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: I think that's especially as a dad, and I'm sure most of these dads listening on the podcast are working professionals.
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: If you really want to activate your personal brand and what you stand for and create opportunities to do stuff like this, or just get your visibility out there, you can find me on LinkedIn.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: So LinkedIn comm slash in slash Brian Galicia, brin, gali, cia.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: You know you can follow.
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: I'm very consistent on posting unique things on stuff and every Friday have a Thank goodness it's Friday newsletter that gets sent out.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: They just one allows people to get to know me a little bit better.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: In case you see these If people ask, me why you post a lot of stuff about your family.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, because it's an important part of my life.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: And guess what, as business professionals it's not just about work.
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: Like we carry relationships with people, even a provisionals business professional setting, because of the relationships you want to have.
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: And guess what?
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: Like you get to know people and so I want people to get to know me on a personal level digitally, so that if it makes sense to have a conversation like we're having right now, case Naturally comes out, and so on that site or on my LinkedIn profile, you're gonna see a link to my book if anyone's interested in it, or For those, of course, on Amazon, I'm sure probably a hundred percent of you are.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: If you just type in my name, brian Galicia, brin GALICIA you're gonna.
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: I'm the only Brian Galicia out there that has published a book, which is kind of unique because I have a kind of awesome, and so you'll find navigating LinkedIn for sales and I'm Shout out to my co-author, mellie Melanie, because I co-authored the book specifically, and you get a case because I'm reading yours win the relationship, not the deal, because anyone who's a dad, who's in a selling profession, can relate to not just the relationship, that can relate to the book of using LinkedIn, because that is a natural way to Drive a digital connection, because we're not always gonna have a face-to-face conversation or even a verbal conversation.
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: How are you gonna get someone's attention digitally?
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: And some of the stuff that you start to read in the book is some of the things that, when I co-authored the book with this person, it was really an opportunity to take the lessons I've learned as a seller and a sales leader and put in it in a way that and it was A bucket list item I'd try, like you probably, how you wrote the book, I did it because I didn't do it for the money.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: I did it because I wanted to have something that no one else has done in my family to say you know what?
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: I'm a published author, so those are ways to get a hold of me.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: I'm also on X.
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: I swear for me to say that.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: Twitter, but if anyone who's on X same same first name, last name I'm not as active on it, but when I, when I am, you're gonna see another side of me because, as you're a big football sports fan, kc, I'm a huge sports fan and I Apologize to any of the Husky fans out there because I'm not a Husky fan, I am a organ duck.
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: And so, even though the Pac-12 is leaving this year and everything's gonna be big 10, I cannot find myself rooting for For the Huskies.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: I might lose some followers that way.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: That's okay, but it's just like I had a hard time.
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: I will go on.
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: It's great that they won, because the kudos that they beat Oregon three times in a row, but I for next Monday, it is go blue.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: So Well, when this episode comes out, it'll be probably in February, february or March, because we're a little bit backlogged.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: So when we know you'll either be go blue or go go dogs and we'll know what happens then.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, absolutely I will make sure everything's linked in the show notes so that people can't connect with you.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: I think we've.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: You know, it's like I said, we don't.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: There's no script.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: Everybody we start these episodes, I show the guest before they come on.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: That's a blank piece of paper and then I leave a couple pages of notes.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: And again, I hope that one thing you take from this conversation today is like, like Brian saying, it's like Build that tribe and if you just ask a few questions and get to know someone, like learn more about people than versus talking always about yourself, like watch what can happen and you're building these relationships.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: And you know I teach something in my coaching business role which I didn't again.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: I accidentally started this business through LinkedIn, for the record.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: Like LinkedIn kind of opened up these doors.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: I was like maybe I should do this coaching thing and now I love it.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: It's like my calling, but I teach what's called.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: I teach my kids this it's like have a boomerang mindset, which means serve others, throw positive boomerangs, but don't keep score.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: Don't worry about when it's gonna come back to you, because if you keep serving people, it will always come back to you and live my whole life that way.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, it's now time to go into the lightning round, where I ask you random Questions that I just gonna think about on the fly.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: It's gonna show the effects of taking too many hits not bong hits, but football hits in college.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: Are you ready?
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: I'm ready.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: Yes, okay.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: Your job is to answer these quickly as you can.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: My job is to try to get a giggle out of you.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: Okay, well, I'm gonna giggle so that doesn't okay.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, true or false?
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: You once kicked a 68-year field goal, ups, false.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, true or false.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: You made a three-point hookshot to win the 1999 Intermural Championship UPS, I just giggled up, man joke.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, true or false?
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Your favorite song is Tiffany.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: I think we're alone now.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: False.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: No, okay, I had to think about the song.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: It's like oh yes, I know the song you're talking about.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: That might be in your head for the rest of the night.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: I apologize, yeah no, it probably will be.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: I'm going to put it on my Spotify list and like oh, there, it is Okay.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: If I was going to come to your dinner, if I was going to come to your house for dinner tonight, tell me what we'd have.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, it would probably be tacos.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: It's a big taco family Sounds good, yeah, okay.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: How about if I was to go to the Philippines?
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: What would be one Filipino food?
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: I must try.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh geez, there's so many.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: I think you would want to try lumpia.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: And so when I say lumpia, if you've never heard of it before, is essentially, if you've been to a Chinese restaurant and you have an egg roll, it's essentially it's an egg roll, but it's super delicious.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: That sounds freaking money.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: Right now I'm trying to like I've eased off the eating the last few days.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: I've put on some like maybe four pounds on the on the LB so I was like pretty much fasting, pretty much, but now I'm like going to go pound like nine egg rolls or lumpia those are called Sounds delicious Okay.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: Tell me the last movie you watched.
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  Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I saw gosh.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: What's that thing?
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: On Netflix, Rebel Moon.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: If you haven't.
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  Speaker 3: Anyone hasn't seen that on Netflix.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: It never get in movie theaters, but I'm a big sci-fi person and I was just curious and it was.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: It was amazing, it was just and it was there's going to be a follow-up show because of course Netflix and they do that they put it on a cliffhanger and so I hopefully it gets renewed, but they didn't.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: They couldn't finish the story because it was.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: They left a cliffhanger to where you just hope that Netflix renews the money again.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: I think they will, cause I looked up like it's Rebel Moon two coming out and it should be, but that was the last movie I saw on Netflix or to move into.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: If you were to book a vacation right now, just you and your wife.
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  Speaker 2: Where are you going?
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: Oh, hawaii, and we actually just booked our vacation.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: We went for spring break.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to the last island.
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  Speaker 3: My kids, so my wife and I, have been to all the islands, all these, all the ones that you can go on a commercial flight and go to.
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  Speaker 3: I know there's some other islands that you can go charter something that we're not, that we're like we got to.
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  Speaker 3: So we're going to Hawaii in April.
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  Speaker 3: But, yeah, hawaii is our.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: We got married or not married, we got.
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  Speaker 3: We went to our honeymoon there.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: Like at least every year or every other year we go to Hawaii.
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  Speaker 3: So Hawaii is our kind of key destination.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be in Kona in April for spring break, so have you been to Kona, have you?
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: I love Kona.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we love.
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  Speaker 3: Kona.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we went there for the first time a couple of years ago and this was like just as COVID was ending and we'd never been to Kona before.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: That was in one island that my wife and I had never been to and the kids had never been to.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: We just loved it.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: One because of you're on the edge and you get all the tropical stuff, and then when you go in the middle you get the volcanoes.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: Like it's a totally.
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  Speaker 3: It's like am I on the same island and you go in the middle and it super pitch black and we didn't get a chance to go to the observatory at the very top but when it was pitch black, but yeah, I love that's what.
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  Speaker 3: That's one of our favorite items now.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me your favorite 80s comedy movie.
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  Speaker 3: Oh gosh, 80s comedy movie so many.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: Is that one in Chicago?
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: I don't want to say, because we're in Chicago, the Ferris wheel.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: Was that 80s movie or was that 90s?
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: I think now it's 80s actually made Riley, my daughter, watch that movie on the flight to Chicago.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: Chicago.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's classic, I mean it's.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: Ferris.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: It is so many, so many funny little things and because, like for anyone who's been Chicago, you just relate to it, because there's a whole bunch of stuff that just like, makes you want to go to Chicago.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: So right, okay, if there was to be a book written about your life, tell me the title Resilient Okay, love it.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: If it's a resilient, brian is killing it.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: Every single Amazon books and Barnes and Noble airports it's selling that everywhere.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: So now Netflix is going to make a movie out of it and I need to know you are the casting director who is going to start you in this critically acclaimed new hit movie.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: It's your chance to show off your body.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: Man, you're going to be the rock.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: Maybe because he's not Filipino, because you think about famous Filipinos.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: The only one that is like a sports person is me and he pack you out, but I don't know he wouldn't be with, he wouldn't be playing me.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: Good, I'll go for Brad Pitt.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, who doesn't want Brad Pitt?
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: Hey, there we go.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: We're going to see Brad Pitt turn Filipino.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, he's been really called resilient yeah.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, now last question Tell me two words that describe your wife Beautiful and amazing.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: Easy, well done.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: We both giggled.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: I think you giggled less and I'm means I'm laughing at my own joke, which is never a good thing, but that's what dads do.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: I want to thank you so much, man, for spending time with us.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: We'll make sure you're everything's linked in the show notes and this comes out, I believe, at the end of February or early March and this episode comes out everybody.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: I want to make sure that other dads, if you, if you listen to this episode today and you found value in it, you learned a little bit about it and you, you learned a little bit about something about yourself.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: Great time to share this episode with somebody.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: Obviously, the more dads we can impact, I think the better world this is going to be for all of us.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: The more we can share with what Brian and I talked about with our kids, the more we're going to have a better world around us.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: But I'm very grateful for you spending time with us today and we should nothing but the best, brother, and hopefully our paths continue to cross on the basketball court 100%, casey.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: I truly appreciate it and, yeah, hopefully all the dads listening to this I became a follower, so hopefully then we'll, we'll, we'll generate more positive vibes out for all the fathers out there.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you, buddy.