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Episode 18 - Are We On Strike? · The Treehouse Show Podcast

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Welcome back inside the Treehouse. I'm Dan, O'Malley. Trey Trenholme has rejoined
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the program after a bit of a hiatus from when he left the radio show
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back in twenty twelve. Very excited to have you back in the Treehouse,
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my friend, thank you, and um Alphie. Are are you supposed to
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be here? Not supposed to be here? Is it? Is there supposed
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to be some sort of thing you're you're you're supposed to be doing or doing
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in spirits? Are you? Are you allowed to talk? How does this
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work? Are you really trying this? Dan? You're really trying to get
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me a thought? Yes? I thought I talked to you before the show,
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Dan, I don't know. I don't know if I feel comfortable doing
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this. What are you worried about? Do you feel like you talking on
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a semi obscure podcast is going to get you in trouble with the Writer's Guild
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of America that I didn't know you were a part of until about five minutes
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ago. I'm not But my point is is I'm not going to get called
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no scab for being entertaining somewhere. Do you really think they're going to accuse
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you of crossing a picket line for being on a podcast, yes for union
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that you're not even a part of the around dude, a podcast that you
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you co host, You're not just a writer for What my point is is,
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I don't want to get called a scab because they will mark you a
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scab and then you get blacklisted for the rest of your life and you are
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never able to join the w G. A dude, that is not true.
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Look how kind they've been to Mel Gibson over and over and over again,
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despite all his best efforts to prove other one. He's not a writer.
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Actually is he is a writer. He's not a good writer. I
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think he had a hand in writing Braveheart. My point is, I don't
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I will only do the show if none of us are entertaining. That went
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two different directions with you with your punchlines, not need to get at the
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same time. The WGA won't let you in at all. Maybe that's what
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we'll do. Alphae. You just play it safe and uh, I'll go
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one way, Trey goes the other. That way, either everybody's mad or
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nobody's mad. They can just choose. Listen, I'll be on the show,
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but I don't want to talk about anything mildly at all interesting, Like
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if we just discuss, you know, boring stuff. I'm all right with
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that. So are you saying you? And going back to ninety seven?
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One? Wait? Was that too funny? One? I want to give
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that they're going to think that it was entertaining. Sorry that that joke was
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too two on the nose there art forms or something. Actually, we did
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our taxes, or at least our our tax guy did our taxes. Finally,
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that's all I got on taxes. Yeah, you can't expand on that,
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because then it might be entertaining, Dan, I know it accidentally might
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be. Yeah. So, so are you a part of the Writer's Guild
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of America or is this one of those things that because of what you do
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as one of your side hustles. Uh, you're a voice actor or you're
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a voiceover artist. I'm assuming that that there are writers in the Writer's Union
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that is currently on strike that right for the shows that you voice. Uh,
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yeah, I mean it's all kind of interconnected. At one point,
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I was Sage, which is hilarious to say out loud. Huh, don't
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you guys wish you were Sage? See what happens when the writers go on
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strike. SAG eligible is what they call it. But uh, it's all
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interconnected. And like I said, the union left und Yeah, SAG eligible,
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isn't that pretty much everyone that goes to seven to eleven on a Friday
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night? Uh, tray laft, tray laft. We just we just see
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we're scabs. Now. I didn't understand the joke. So that's okay,
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traded. Don't come after me. Wga, if you're SAGE, why don't
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you just become SAG because I live in Texas and that would kill so many
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job opportunities because we're a non union state. We're a right to work state,
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and so many of the jobs that are in Texas are non union.
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The second you join SAG, you are no longer eligible to take all those
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non union jobs. So that's there's so many like seminars. Oh you you
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guys want to discuss seminars. We can do seminars. Seminars aren't necessarily entertaining.
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Please God, No, as soon as you call something a seminar,
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everyone just kind of does a micro yawn and starts thinking how long until we
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can make a run for the bar and the hotel lobby. But yeah,
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there's all these seminars that actors will go through in terms of like when should
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I join SAG blah blah blah blah blah, that kind of thing. See,
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it's that type of stuff. I think it's part of the reason why
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so many celebrities get scammed and have their money stolen by business managers is because
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someone comes in that says, you know what, you have more important things
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to worry about. Let me worry about the minutia of the business side,
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because that's what I do. I know how to do this, and you
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go you go act or you go be famous and you know whatever, and
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then I'll handle all your money like okay, cool, I don't have to
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worry about anymore. I found this wonderful person who's super trustworthy, and then
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that super trust with your person takes all their money and runs off somewhere to
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never be seen or heard from again. Yeah, there's all sorts of unscrupulous
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folks that you got to watch out for, as in any business, you
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know what I mean. But the unions, they especially the WGA, because
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the last time they did a strike was what fifteen years ago? Yeah,
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I think it was two thousand and eight. Yeah, they don't f around
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when it comes to scabs. Anyone and everyone that approached any studio that was
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on like the No No list and did any work for them, you're blacklisted
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and you are never eligible then to join the WGA. So there, you
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know, there might be some scabs out there right now going and today's my
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time to go get in there and get my script. Scene by everyone?
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And are you purposely trying to sound like Ben Shapiro He is a failed screenwriter,
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you know, That's why I made That's why I made the connection.
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No, no, no, no, that's just my general there. It
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may sound stupid, but I'm up to date on all sorts of good information.
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That's that's my general geek voice. But once you say, you say,
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they get blacklisted. But at the end of the day, if someone
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comes up because I think there was someone who ended up writing a hit,
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I mean, doesn't that get overlooked if you know you're bringing in money and
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you have something people want. Yes, and no, there might be some
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exception for somebody that has like the mega hit of mega hits, But for
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the most part, unless you're you know, pumping down a new star wars
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or something like that and bye. And I'll say this, you can tell
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the writers have a lot of power because I believe SAG and everyone else.
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I mean, they've halted production on everything, like they're not even attempting to
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try to go forward. No, because that's kind of what happened in two
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thousand and eight. I remember, I've been seeing all this week on my
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timelines on social media various things and how they and how the writers strike back
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then affected things, and one of one of one of them was because this
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was back when Conan O'Brien's had his late night show before he basically stopped doing
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it and in support of the writer's strike, he still did his job when
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on the show, but they told no jokes did it, nothing that was
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written by someone or that was you know, scabbing or anything like that.
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So one of the things that he would do almost every night during the writer's
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strike was take off his wedding band and spin it on his desk to see
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if he could set a new record from the night before. And on one
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hand, you're like, oh my god, that sounds absolutely terrible, but
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it was Conan O'Brien and he actually kind of made it entertaining and you cared
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about it. But the other thing that it did, and I think a
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lot of people didn't recognize this, We recognize it because we get stuff.
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It actually in a somewhat entertaining way, put a spotlight on the fact that
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there's a writer's strike. This is happening, and this is kind of what
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happens in the middle of it, and we're kind of dealing with it as
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as we go, which is something we all know about. Yeah, the
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writers strike is responsible for such things as Quantum of Solace, one of the
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worst James Bond movies ever made. Because oh yeah, so I wonder,
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Alfie, I wonder if you read the same article I did earlier this week.
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I mean, that's something that I'm a big James Bond fan, and
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you watch all the Daniel Craig James Bond movies, there's kind of there's kind
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of some gaps in terms of quality there. And I like Quantum of Solace,
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but it is probably the weakest one of the Daniel Craig films. And
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it's because I think it was in two thousand and eight or whenever when they
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were producing it, they got in a like draft shooting script to the studios
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minutes before the strike started, and they started filming and the strike lasted what
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like months then it was like six seven months or something. It was like
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one hundred days or something. Okay, not that bad, but that's months.
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Daniel Craig and the other executive producer were the only ones that were allowed
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to make changes to the script. So that's exactly what they did, is
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they took the draft of the script they had and they went in these two
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guys and they pounded out whatever changes they wanted to make and started shooting because
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they're they're on a timeline, they've got a release date, they've got a
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hit next year, and there's no other option but to start shooting. And
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what you ended up with was just painfully awful James Bond stuff that just ripped
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off from other old sixteens James Bond movies. It's is bad, is real
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bad. Like the hot chick in that movie, the one that he screws
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and then eventually dies, that's in every James Bond movie. Her name was
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I think Strawberry Fields, and she dies in the exact same way that the
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Lady and goal fingered Eyes drowned in paint versus oil, but different but the
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same same thing. That's what happens. We ain't got writers there. I
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have an idea, let's do what they did in the previous movie, but
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just changed the color and the substance. Yeah. It is interesting though,
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because there was a I saw what is his name? Is it? I
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think it's Adam, the guy from Adam Ruins Everything. You see it online
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everywhere, but it's also I think it's on True TV. He said.
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I think he's an actor's stand up comedian, but he's also in the Writer's
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Guild of America. Alphy. I'm not sure if you saw this. I
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sent you a link to it if you want to play this. So earlier
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this week, Adam from Adam Ruins Everything goes on CNN to sort of share
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with whoever the CNN anchor as it didn't recognize her, maybe she's non limited
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replacement or something, and he was just sort of telling people, Okay,
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this is the reason for the writers strike. Here's our side of it.
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Because he's on the writer's side, and he brings up a pretty interesting point
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in response to some of the network executives and heads saying, oh, we
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just don't have them all this money that you guys are asking for run this
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industry. Say, Look, times are changing. We are not making as
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much money as we once did. This is not the golden era of television.
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Although some of us would argue the shows are great, what do you
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say to them? So I'd point out the fact that David Zaslov, the
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CEO of Warner Brothers Discovery, which is the parent company of the network I'm
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talking to you on right now, was paid two hundred and fifty million dollars
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last year, a quarter of a billion dollars. That's about the same level
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as what ten thousand writers are asking him to pay all of us collectively.
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All Right, So I would say, if you're being paid two hundred and
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fifty million dollars, Ted Sarandos made about fifty million last year. These companies
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are making enormous amounts of money. Their profits are going up. It's ridiculous
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for them to plead poverty when the writers who are making their shows, some
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of them, are not able to pay their rent or their mortgages. I
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literally know writers who have had to go on assistance because they have not been
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able to make their year. The if you if you look at these companies.
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They're making more money than ever. It's the people who make the shows
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for them that are making less. Adam Coniver, thank you so much for
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coming on, because you ruin everything. You may have just ruined my career,
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but I don't mind. I appreciate you coming on. Larious. Yeah,
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funny anchor joke. Look at me. I could be a writer too,
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couldn't i? Adam, Yes, you certainly could. Uh so.
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I mean I don't want to wait into any of the political stuff on this
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because everything these days, every everything these days gets twisted into right left,
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uh you know, blue red, whatever nonsense, and this doesn't necessarily have
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to be about that people we're going to frame it that way. I don't
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think it's to me, it's more about it's more about all the rich guys
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have all this money and they want to claim that they don't have enough money
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to pay you, which is something that the three of us have heard time
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and time and time again in our radio careers, and not just radio careers.
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We've heard it in any other job or any other industry that we've ever
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been in, or have friends that have ever been in, or are in
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family that have been in or are in. They always get taught you know
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what, it's just not in the budget. And then when the CEO says,
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sorry, it's just not in the budget, he hops in his plane,
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flies across the country and charges the company for him flying his own plane.
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It's a dumb business idea too, to just waste waste so much towards
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one salary. It's idiotic. If you, as a company can get away
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with paying your CEO less, why don't you. It tells me that your
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company is not operating in the best interests of its shareholders, of its employees,
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which they never do, but still shod the shareholders would disagree with you.
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Yes they will shareholders if their stock prices going up. They they're more
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than happy to pay that CEO whatever they want because they don't care. All
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they're caring about is their bottom line. With the great irony to me is
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there all They like to throw out the word shareholders, when in reality it's
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the shareholders that have the most money, because there are lots of people that
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are shareholders in the companies for which they work, but they don't have a
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voice because they don't have enough money at the table to be heard. And
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so one of the great problems with money is greed. I forget exactly you
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know, the exact details on it. But there was a research study that
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some you know, biologists did, I think with chimpanzees where they introduced into
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their little society money and they immediately became greedy. They're also they also created
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you know, sex for money while they were at it. But at the
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at the end of the day, it was still about greed. And you
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know, I'm not saying that the rich shouldn't be rich or anything like that.
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By God, if you want to get it, get your money and
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absolutely enjoy it to a certain degree, you've earned it. But it also
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becomes a sickness where it's like I have this, but I want even more.
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There was even another study done recently. It said they ask people at
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different income levels what would it take to make you happier? And at every
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income level they said they wanted more. And that include people that we're making
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a million dollars a year, they wanted more. At people that made ten
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million dollars a year, they wanted more. And it's almost like it becomes
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a mental sickness type of a thing. Well, ultimately, when you are
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willing to pay a CEO or a board of directors or whomever a ridiculous amount
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of money as long as your stock price keeps going up. What you're doing
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is you're focusing on short term gains. It's all about that next quarterly report,
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all about like you know, the next call where you can say,
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oh my god, we did so great in our stock prices up, We're
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going to do a buyback and all this crap, and your stock price is
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going to go up even more blah blah blah, as opposed to long term
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health of the company. Yeah, because you know what was not mentioned in
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any of that, and the things that are typically not heard in some of
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those sales calls with you know CEOs and the CFOs where they talk about the
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big where they talk about the stock prices going up, the revenue is up
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a bita and all of these things you don't typically hear about. Is the
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product good? Yeah exactly, Yeah, they don't is what your company built
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on good? And that's something that seems to get lost a lot of time.
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Instead, it's more about not just the bottom line, but what's the
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stock price today? Well, but there is, I mean, especially right
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now, if you're at the CEO of an entertainment company, you are dealing
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with an incredibly changing landscape. And one of the biggest things is, and
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if you follow sports, it's gonna come home and slap you in the face
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real quick. Is that all you know, the local sports networks, they're
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now you know, Balleies, they were Fox Sports whatever. If you're reading
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the papers, they've all gone bankrupt. And one of the big things that's
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fueling the bankruptcy is this ever changing landscape of you know, one of the
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things that most of these entertainment companies made their money off of was cable subscribership,
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and that the cable companies paid them a subscription fee to carry their network.
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Well, now that so many people are cutting the cord and going with
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you know, apps and different that the economics of it are changing. And
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there are some CEOs that, yes, make way too much. A two
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hundred and fifty million is ridiculous, But then you know, you take I
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mean, look at what happened with Disney when they brought Bob eigerback. You
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know, one of the things that makes cecos if they're really good is the
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fact that they're looking not just the next quarter, but they're looking five years
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down the road and see you know what's coming up next. And honestly,
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and that's why I said, I'm not against CEO's making a lot of money.
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I'm not against anybody making a lot of money if you're good at what
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you do. But what I'm tired of is seeing you know, you know,
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high level or even mid level executives making an ass ton of money and
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in a lot of cases they don't seem to know what they're doing, and
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there was no guarantee that they knew what they were doing going in, but
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they were still pulling seven, eight nine figures. That to me is what
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is is astounding. If you're if you're making the company money and you're doing
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well, and you know what, if the product is good and the company
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meaning all the employees inside of it seem pretty good, then by god,
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that's a you've earned it, absolutely As opposed to just running a business where
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your sole focus is your stock price, then that, like Alfie, like
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you said, that's not thinking long term success. That's just short term nonsense.
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And in all this, I hope that I hope that the that the
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WJ is successful. I hope that they get theirs and that they stick it
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to companies that are otherwise hiding cash, going oh, we can't pay you
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up, because ultimately, what you're going to get a better product. Overall,
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the more writers in a room, the better ideas get filtered through,
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and you end up with more quality entertainment and you get higher painfully business exactly.
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And I think that in solidarity with the WGA, we should absolutely have
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zero punchline to end this segment. Okay, I'll here's one for you.
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they only pay them four hundred and fifty thousand a year, and the last
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if they're midway through the race, if it was late, when that time
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comes, whoever is in the lead when you know time expires, that's who
26:11
wins. So it's not we're running five hundred laps, it's whoever gets the
26:15
most laps in in this time. Well, yeah, I mean typically they're
26:19
gonna run most of those f one Yeah, they run between fifty and sixty
26:23
laps, and but yeah, it's a hard time limit, and a lot
26:30
of that has to do with the fact, you know, you have to
26:30
remember these things, the operations, because it's not like NASCAR, where you're
26:36
in one continent and you're just kind of you load everything in an eighteen wheeler
26:38
and go from one to the other. These things, you know, they
26:42
have big transports that they have to load these cars in, and you know
26:47
they fly in. You know, they're all over the world, so in
26:51
any if there's a delay, it screws everything up. So that's why there
26:55
is a very hard time limit on them. I think one of the big
26:57
things that helps any sort of spoil to emerge is accessibility, and the two
27:03
you just mentioned, trey F one and soccer are pretty accessible. Part of
27:07
the reason basketball is so much more popular than baseball is because of accessibility.
27:11
When you're a kid, it's a lot easier to find a basketball to play
27:15
with than it is all the stuff you need for baseball or even football,
27:19
and so soccer that's pretty much the same thing. Do you have a ball,
27:23
do you have a foot, then you can play soccer. Same well,
27:27
maybe not exactly the same, but F one is fairly accessible. You
27:30
get good enough driving your ass off on the bush every day, maybe one
27:33
day you end up on a you know, in an F one race car
27:37
Man. There's a new movie coming out that is kind of exactly based on
27:42
this. It's called Grand Tresmo. It's produced by Sony. It's pace by
27:47
PlayStation, and it's based on the PlayStation game Grand Tresmo. And the whole
27:53
bit is young kid plays Grandreismo online a whole lot. It's got the whole
27:57
setup with like the racing wheel and the chair and all that stuff, and
28:00
he wins some crazy big Grand Resmo tournament and they're like, all right,
28:03
you're an F one driver, now, kid, let's go. And during
28:07
the pandemic. That's what a lot of I think NASCAR and F one drivers
28:11
did is racing sims have gotten so good. I guess that a lot of
28:18
them just got online and streamed on Twitch, and if I remember it correctly,
28:22
they got a little too good at it and a little too comfortable.
28:25
Because one NASCAR driver dropped the in word in the middle of a stream.
28:29
Yeah, yeah, you know, that probably wasn't his first time saying that.
28:33
Oh, they they've actually been doing that for a while. I remember
28:37
what dropping the in word in stock cars? Yeah, we all knew that.
28:41
Yeah, surprise. There's a reason why I've never seen the brown eminem
28:45
on the hood of the car. But no, I remember the only reason
28:52
how if he's not laughing is because he's still on strike. Yeah, they
28:57
didn't. It was like Jeff Gordon, Jimmy Johnson and daale Or and Art
29:00
Junior, and they showed their their racing setups, and this was over a
29:06
decade ago, and I mean it looked like they had the full arcade thing
29:10
in their house. But I mean they had like three big screens and actual
29:15
driver's chair and everything, and that's a lot of them. What they did
29:18
in their off time is you know, they were still racing, just E
29:22
racing. I guess, well, I think there's a whole I believe there's
29:25
an E racing league, both F one and NASCAR now yep. But the
29:32
whole idea of you being so good at at a game that you can all
29:36
of a sudden do it in real life. I mean that is how like
29:40
the US military has been thinking for the past twenty thirty years or so.
29:44
I swear to god, I was just thinking the same thing. And it's
29:47
it's like, you feel really cool if you can truly own everyone in your
29:51
call of duty league, but you want to be careful not to be so
29:52
good that you actually end up in the military. Yeah, exactly, because
29:57
contacts you they're like, yeah, exact, don't for you? Uh huh.
30:02
Yeah. You don't want to be running around the desert in a you
30:04
know, in some you know, ft up call of duty league hoodies skin
30:11
or running around looking like a fox with a bazooka like in Fortnite. So
30:15
should I get into F one Trey? Absolutely? Who's your who's your guy?
30:18
Is it? The Lewis Hamilton's Um, I do like Lewis Hamilton,
30:25
Max Ver Stopping, you know, I mean Max or Stapping is the best
30:30
there is right now. Uh, but he's just he's even a little prickish
30:37
for me and that that's saying something. But he's he's very good. I
30:41
mean that's they're all F one drivers are the twenty best drivers in the world.
30:48
No, you know, there is no second place, really is it?
30:52
So is it like those twenty drivers and then that kid that played the
30:55
video game crashing hand of the walls into a ball of fire. Yeah,
31:00
I mean there's F three, there's F two, and there's F one,
31:03
and they're basically considered the best drivers in the world. And if you ever
31:06
doubt it, see what happens when I mean, hell, there are there's
31:10
there's one American driver maybe I get now he's Canadian. I mean it's but
31:15
it's also it's one of those sports don't counts, like you would basically have
31:19
to be born wealthy in order to be an F one driver. It's or
31:22
hell, any race car driver. It's not like, yeah, it's not
31:26
cheap. By the way, Trey, if you want to uh unlock the
31:30
cheek code on how to get Alphie interested in something, truly interested in something,
31:34
find him a hot chick to follow into it. Yeah that is how.
31:38
That is how Alphie has gotten into any of his major hobbies. Yeah
31:41
anything, get into ballroom dancing because he had a crush on someone who was
31:45
into ballroom dancing. What else was it, Alphie, Rather help you,
31:48
I'm on strike. He got his certified weather spot or certification because he had
31:56
the hots for a meteorologist. Quit acting like this, this is uncommon or
32:00
this is unique to me. Everything that anyone has ever done throughout all of
32:04
human history has been too impressive. Woman. That is true, and I'm
32:07
not saying that that is that that is a unique thing to you. However,
32:12
where you make it unique is you take it to another level that most
32:15
guys don't. Most guys get bored after a little bit. You're like,
32:17
I don't like weather that much. She's not into me. I'm no longer
32:21
into weather. Instead, Alfie doubles down. Alphie, You're like, I'm
32:27
gonna know everything about weather. Now. It's in a skill point. Now
32:30
it's a new like a skill tree where you're like, all right, same
32:35
thing with the same thing with ballroom dancing. There was there was a chick
32:37
who he really had the hots for that was into ballroom dancing and it didn't
32:40
work out between the two of them. But Alphie's like, I'm a pretty
32:43
good dancing there. I'm gonna I'm gonna keep dancing my ass off. Who's
32:46
your who's your your your team or your company or whatever it's called. Tredy,
32:51
you got the Honda either, you have the Mercedes McLaren Mercedes? Okay?
32:55
Makes sense? Is that the Lewis Hamilton guy? Yes? Okay?
33:01
Should we be in Danna? You went on this too? No? I
33:06
think I'm good. I'll tell you if you really And it's actually it's fascinating,
33:12
especially now that if you go back. But I mean, one of
33:14
the things that has led to F one's surge in popularity is the Netflix series
33:20
Drive to Survive, And if you haven't watched it, it's fascinating, and
33:23
especially if you watch it from so I think it's now and it's fifth season,
33:30
but fourth or fifth season, and you watch the start of it,
33:32
and it's fascinating because there's a guy named Daniel Ricardo who at the time when
33:37
they started was probably the hottest driver young up and coming driver and there was
33:44
basically he moved from Team Red Bull, which then they elevated Max Verstappen.
33:49
And now you go five seasons later, Daniel Ricardo didn't even have a ride
33:52
and Max Verstappin is considered the best in the world. But but yeah,
34:00
and Alfie, if you're on it, like you watch these F one races
34:04
and just the pre and post race and you just look it is. It
34:07
is where all the most beautiful people in the world hang out. Oh yeah,
34:12
I believe me. On Monaco and and the French Riviera and all this
34:15
stuff in Austin, Texas. It's in Miami. This weekend, I was
34:22
actually at the I remember one Sunday. I think it was a Sunday or
34:24
Monday. Um, it was the day after an F one race happened in
34:30
Miami. We were actually at the Miami Airport and the people walking around with
34:34
all the jackets, Oh my god, the logos lit Monaco, Miami,
34:39
Luxembourg, Flugerville. Were they really in Flugerville? Isn't that where the track
34:49
is or is in Round Rock? No, it's it's south of Austin.
34:52
It's it's uh, it's where Bergstrom used to be based. I mean,
34:57
oh okay, yeah, I got you. But h I can't remember the
35:01
actual city that it's in, but it's a little more south but technically it's
35:07
something like that. Yes, come on, who's the best driver right now?
35:16
Max for stapping, Okay, thanks for stapping. The Ferrari team Carlos
35:21
signs and uh I just drove a blank on the other guy's name. Um
35:27
like Mercedes, Red Bull and Ferrari are although McLarens having a very good year
35:34
in there, No Toyota in there. No uh Chevrolet in there. Uh
35:40
no, none of them. I think I think Chevrolet. Chele Ford is
35:45
getting back into F one starting next year. Cool, but uh, Honda
35:50
does make engines, but they're not really competitive. Well no it's not.
35:54
Mowers aren't competitive in F one. They don't really have the team sponsorship.
35:58
They're just the engine builders. They're not like Mercedes and Dameler who actually build
36:02
engines. But yeah, it's McLaren Ferrari. And then you have the poor
36:07
HOSS team, which is the one that's basically Canadian American owned, and uh,
36:12
everyone treats them really nicely. You guys are doing great. They suck.
36:17
We just liked your ear. They're the Jamaican bobsled team of F one.
36:22
Yeah, I mean it's you know, Hosses owns. You know,
36:25
it's Stewart Hoss Racing and NASCAR And I forgot the guy's first name, but
36:31
hot, I mean eight pours millions into these things, and he just they
36:37
can't find the right driver. Like every time it looks like they're making progress
36:40
that they just absolutely shoot themselves in the foot. And that's got to make
36:44
them absolutely sick to their stomachs to see that they're successful in stock car,
36:49
which is basically boxy vehicles, but once it comes down to having to shave
36:52
the thing to look more aerodynamic, they can't seem to figure it out.
36:55
That's and the funniest thing is they're they're the head of their racing as this
37:00
chairman guy, I think his name is Gunther and uh, and he's quite
37:05
the potty mouth and he gets really pissed off at his drivers. But then
37:09
at the I just can't think of a guy hass's first name, but you
37:13
know, and he just looks so defeated at the end of races where they
37:15
just absolutely sucker that he's just like, oh, it's Geen geene haws because
37:20
I have to call Jean. He's going to hate this. And then there's
37:23
some expletives in there. Who do you think win, Trey? Who do
37:28
you think we would win in a race? Max Verstappin or Verstapping or um
37:32
Dale, Earnhardt Senior? What are they driving? A car F one or
37:39
a NASCAR Uh huh A pair of you goes, Oh, yeah, that's
37:45
what I want to see. You want to get me into racing. Let
37:47
me see something more accessible, Like we were saying, get the best racers
37:52
in the world and put them in like a go cart, and let's see
37:54
true skill that they're doing the the days of thunder Cold Trickle and the the
38:00
guy from Guardians the Galaxy, they're doing the rental Chevy Malibus. Yes,
38:05
exactly, that's what I want. That's what Yeah, I loved that I
38:07
want. I want could trickle and up against rowdy in rental avises. If
38:13
if if, if they're you know, if we're going with the rubbing is
38:15
racing philosophy, I'll go with Earnhardt. Uh technical driving skills. If it
38:21
was just actually on a course, I'll go with for Stapping. But it's
38:27
all say though, because because F one it's more of a challenging course because
38:30
there's twists and turns and it's more unexpected word, you know, NASCAR it's
38:34
just like okay, oval pretty much. I mean, they run a couple
38:37
of road courses, but they only turn left. And it's like like there
38:42
is F one drivers. When they can't come to the States, they'll end
38:45
up doing something and driving a NASCAR They did it last year somewhere, and
38:51
all F one drivers are like those cars have no brakes, but you know
38:54
they're used to very very light cars that I mean, but F one drivers
39:00
for everything NASCAR does in the pit, like track bar and all these other
39:05
things that helped the steering and suspension, the F one drivers they're doing that
39:08
real time on their steering wheel along with shifting and everything else. And you
39:14
know, it's just it's so technical and it's why, you know, it's
39:17
why an F one car costs about twenty five million and why a NASCAR cost
39:22
about five hundred thousand. So do they have to basically memorize each course before
39:25
they go or on the steering wheel like the rest of us. Do they
39:29
have like the Google Maps lady telling them which way to turn? Up up
39:31
ahead. Now they do like the old map Quest print out and they just
39:35
tape it to the dash and so they're going one hundred and like two hundred
39:39
and fifty miles an hour, and it's like veer right ye, rerouting,
39:45
rerouting, just stopped at a red light. I don't know where to go.
39:54
I say, Alfie, go for it, and Trey, if you
39:58
really want to get Alfie into it with you find him a girl to follow
40:00
into it or just a really hot euro dude that could go both ways.
40:07
That's half of the F one drivers do they do? They do squats?
40:13
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for all of your plumbing needs. Again, I don't want to jump back
45:06
into the political stuff on it really at all. But I'm still kind of
45:09
intrigued by this writer strike that we were talking about before Alpha. You seem
45:15
to have perked up, so I feel like maybe you're not as worried about
45:20
being called a scab by the people on strike. I'm still not gonna be
45:22
entertaining. In fact, I'm prepared with a list of topics to talk about
45:28
that are purposefully unentertaining. Really, Yes, would you like to know about
45:31
Scandinavian designer Jorg Jensen and his growing up in mid century modern art world?
45:44
Now? I guess not? You sure? Pretty sure? Pretty sure?
45:47
Yeah? You don't want to know about the short history of his Danish design
45:52
company? How short one to three, four, five, six, seven,
46:00
eight, nine, ten, twelve, fourteen, fourteen forty pages?
46:08
What is it? From? Forty pages on a on a on a Danish
46:13
mid century modern designer? Yeah? Do you know that Jorgensen's Father's name was
46:17
Jorgan? I guess so? And that he was a grinder at the local
46:24
knife cutlery cutlery factory. Was that the job he always dreamed of having?
46:31
Yes? You know that his father Jorgan? In nineteen twenty six described the
46:37
harsh conditions of the factory, but also expressed his love for the beautiful countryside
46:40
surrounding Ravad, which I guess is somewhere in Denmark. How do you have
46:47
this information, let alone forty pages of it? I mean, you don't
46:52
keep this sort of thing around, Dan, No, I was prepared for
46:55
the writer's strike. Now what else? Oh well, Trey, thank you
47:05
for asking. Were you aware that in eighteen eighty the Jensen family moved to
47:09
Copenhagen and your Gensen started an apprenticeship with the goldsmith A. R. Anderson,
47:15
which you completed in eighteen eighty six. So is do you just have
47:21
one subject of you know, obscure flatwear designers? I mean that's my first
47:29
go to on the pile. I also could talk to you guys about,
47:31
let's say, proper ironing technique. Would you guys like to know about that?
47:37
Oh no, no, Alphie, you're the one that told me years
47:40
ago just to get a steamer that way, don't have to iron ever again,
47:44
I know, which is why steaming is far too entertaining, Dan,
47:49
which is why we're talking about ironing here. Sorry, thanks for thanks for
47:52
bringing me back on topic. Would you guys like to know about, um,
48:00
how to remove moss from your patio power washer. Yeah, that's pretty
48:07
much it, guys, right, I feel like it's a really boring game.
48:13
Perhaps you'd care to know about different varietals of kale. Definitely, definitely
48:22
not. And this is a reason why I really hope that the Writer's Guild
48:28
of America gets what For the most part, they want to be able to
48:34
get back to work and writing things so we're all entertained again as opposed to
48:37
being left up to our own devices. Because you see, hear what happens.
48:40
I could read you instructions on how to build ikea flat pack furniture m
48:46
I'd rather I would right now. I don't want to hear you do it,
48:51
but I would pay to watch you do it. I'm actually not that
48:57
horrible at it. It's just you gotta you gotta have like five times the
49:00
amount of space that the item is going to take up, and you've got
49:04
to have every tool imaginable at your disposal, and you need to make sure
49:08
that the flooring color is the opposite of any sort of the pieces and parts
49:14
and tools that come in said fox. You lay down like a neon Matt.
49:19
That way you can find the inevitable thirty screws you're gonna lose. You'll
49:23
need a regular white light, you'll need a kneon light. A black light
49:27
as well will also help to find the little pieces that run away. And
49:30
also if you have any pets, just locked them in a different room because
49:36
the cat will sit on the instructions and the chihuahua will run off with the
49:38
Alan Rinch. I am definitely speaking from experience there. Yeah, where is
49:46
that Alan Rinch? Get back here? Would you guys like me to read
49:53
selected excerpts from the Writer's Manual, The elements of style by stroke, what
50:01
type of writing all of it? Definitely not, although I really do I
50:09
appreciate something that Trey contributed as the Writer's Guild of America strike continued the jokes,
50:19
they're not on late night television right now because all the writers are on
50:22
the picket lines. So on Tuesday, I guess, is when the strikes
50:28
started. And what do people do when they strike? They typically hit the
50:36
picket line, right they have their their their sign saying we're protesting. But
50:39
these are all a bunch of writers in Hollywood, so I mean they all
50:44
I mean, the pressure is kind of high. You think they'd have some
50:46
good signs, right, and yeah, they actually do well. They got
50:50
burned during the last strike because I remember seeing some anecdote from a writer that
50:57
was protesting in New York City and an NYPD comes up and he goes,
51:00
Hey, who are you guys, And they're like, we're the w GA.
51:02
We're protesting, you know, because we're writers and we're on strike now.
51:06
And he goes, oh, you're right, is huh, Well,
51:07
why don't you signs better? And now they now they know to come prepared
51:14
with just loads of sign ammunition. Did they immediately hire that police officer to
51:20
be in a writer's room? Because they did. They really should just hire
51:23
him right away for one of the cop shows. But Trey did find this.
51:29
I guess it was on MPR. There's like everyone's collecting online and posting
51:34
on social media all the writers Guild strike signs because it says on the top
51:38
of a lot of them writers Guild on strike. And then it's like a
51:42
white blank space on the bottom half of the sign so they can write in
51:45
their own things. Yeah, it looks like a name It looks like a
51:49
name tag on a on a with a pickt. Yeah. And one of
51:53
the things that that's sort of at the core of this negotiation and or strike
52:01
is the writers are worried about the onslaught of artificial intelligence replacing them and and
52:10
them basically be losing out to you know, you know, chat GPT taking
52:15
taking their jobs. And it seems like that's a legitimate concern if you look
52:23
at I mean, I guess technically we're in the infancy of AI and it's
52:28
already doing stuff, you know, whether it's mimicking hit songs you know from
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artists that you don't know if it's Drake or not or what, or faking
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kidnapping. M that sounds like the sounds like the premise of the next Rambo
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movie. Did you did y'all see that story? So there was some woman,
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I don't remember what state, but she got a call and you know,
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it was her daughter screaming I've been kidnapped. I've been kidnap, you
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know, and them wanting, you know, saying you know why, or
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transfer ten thousand dollars or whatever. And it turns out it was a big
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hoax. The daughter was fine, and you know, daughter came home,
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you know, mother was freaking out and police are around and it's like what's
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going on And turns out, yeah, someone had just hijacked her number and
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or just not her number, but her voice. They said, you know,
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just if you have a voice voice recording, like your outgoing voicemail,
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they can take that, plug it in and then you know, get you
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to say anything. And it was all a hoax. Okay, that actually
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makes me feel a little bit better. I thought you were saying that an
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AI like chat GPD bot actually kidnapped a woman and was holding her for ransom.
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That's probably two years away, but it's coming sky Nut. Yeah.
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It's kind of like cats, like as soon as chat GPT gets thumbs were
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all screwed. Yeah. Well, actually one of these lines on the on
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the picket lines and Writers Guild on Strike wrote chat GPT this, uh success
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no writer is just the what I got it. It took a second.
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Well, uh, succession without writers is just the apprentice and look how that
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worked out. Uh. On another sign, chat GPT doesn't have childhood drama.
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That's a good one. Our therapists keeps saying, we have to stand
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up for ourselves. So here we are. Sorry, I'm mad as hell
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and I'm not going to take it anymore. Was not written by a producer.
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You're going to be the villains in the limited series about this. That's
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true, very true, studio execs when you demand fair compensation and it's a
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picture of a Pikachu looking distraught. Writer, I have a family to feed.
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Studios who told you to have a family? Yeah? Uh, this
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this one, This one's one of my favorites. I like your offer as
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much as you like an angry female lead and dre what was your favorite?
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My favorite was you came up with Quimby not us, oh, which I
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guess for those who don't know, Quimby was a very short lived network that
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was a show like ten minute highlights of shows like all the funny part.
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They just convinced it down to like ten minutes a piece or something and a
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bunch of people sake money into it, and I think it lasted six months
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before it went belly up, ironically, about as long as the standard could
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be video. Yeah, that's I guess. My question though, aren't there
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writers striking at the wrong time, because technically, if we're going into the
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summer, so all the ship, you know, late night shows aren't live.
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I think all the season finales have probably already been filmed. Yeah,
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the season finales are about to start airing doing make sweeps. Yeah. Yeah,
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the timing is definitely not ideal, but that's kind of I guess that's
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just the situation that they're in. I guess it would have been interesting to
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see if they could have somehow found a way to strike, you know,
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at the beginning of when shooting production happens, going into the fall, for
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all those all those news shows that are coming out and everything, that's probably
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would have been the best time. And oh eight it was smack dab in
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the middle. I mean it was noticeable that the writers went on strike because
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like I don't remember when it was. It was either in the fall or
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the beginning of the year, but you know, it made a different There
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were life shows just shut off, and everyone noticed. I don't know if
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anyone's going to notice that much right now, but you know, when you
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get an onslaught of bad reality shows, I guess people will literally catch on.
57:30
And that's kind of what happened. I mean it was after it was
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in that time frame where more reality shows became a thing because you didn't really
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need as many writers on that. Yeah, you don't. I mean that's
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the secret of reality TV is basically, I mean it's Discovery and all the
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you know those other networks that they figured it out. You know, all
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you have to do is unique camera equipment and some people to shoot. And
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you know, there's your big production cost because in general, and especially in
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the beginning, you're not paying any of the people. Crap, did either
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of y'all write to write your own writer? Strike signs for this bit?
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No, no solid where he exactly we are standing in solidarity with the writers?
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Is it? Is it guild or is it guys of America? We're
58:30
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