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Nashville Predators 2026-2027 Season Preview: The MacFarland Defence Experiment · Jablam Sports Hockey

• 0:02
  SPEAKER_02: Oh no my god, I spilt my pop every hold on, guys.
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  SPEAKER_02: Let's wait.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh you know what?
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  SPEAKER_02: I'll just clean it up later.
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  SPEAKER_02: Welcome to Jablam Sports Hockey, your home for everything happening around the NHL.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_02: I'm your host, Peter Bojarinov, and every episode we break down the biggest topics all hockey fans are talking about, with writers, radio, TV experts from all 32 teams.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_02: Today we're continuing our 32 team season previews with the National Predators.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_02: On the show, we have Kara Hammer.
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  SPEAKER_02: She's the rink side rink reporter.
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  SPEAKER_02: Welcome to the show, Cara.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, thanks for having me.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_02: And back in the show is Alec Dotry, the beat reporter covering the Preds for the Tennessee and welcome back, Alex.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, thanks for having me again.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_02: And in trending now, we will talk about the Jack Hughes thing that happened last night and the goalie go.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_02: Let's drop the pot.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_02: Last season, the National Predators just missed the playoffs by only four points.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_02: Six in the central.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh, a loaded question to get the show started.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I don't know if there's one answer of exactly what the team needs to uh get back into the playoffs.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_00: I think they have the right mindset going in.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I think there is a few questions, and and Alex may agree with me here, but uh I I think we're just not quite sure of where the roster is even gonna land right now.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, they just sent Ryan Ufko down to Milwaukee.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, they started an opening night with nine defensemen.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_00: And so I think uh it's kind of hard to say what what's the one thing that the Predators need right now?
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_00: Because we also are just now learning about Chris McFarland, the new general manager that they brought in.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, what's he gonna do?
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_00: What does he have cooking?
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_00: Is it something behind the scenes that we're not aware of?
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_00: But I mean, Alex, you're the beat reporter for the team.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, I work for the team and cover them, so I feel Homer biased in me, but what are your thoughts if you could pinpoint one area?
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I I really agree with you.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_03: It it has been a very strange couple weeks because the in particular the defense, like uh, I feel like the forward situation is kind of figured out.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, they've they've got that kind of down, but like the defense situation is very strange.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_03: I think so.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_03: I think the the most important thing is gonna be fixing that.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I mean, like they they don't even really know what their best six defensemen are, or even maybe their top four defensemen.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I mean, Roman Yossi obviously is their top guy, but after that, it's like Roman uh Ryan Efko played with him last night and then immediately gets sent down, as Kara said, and it's like uh uh okay, so what happens now?
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_03: And you got all these guys that are kind of similar.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_03: Um I mean, Brady Shea, Nick Purbix, Nick Haig, uh Ilya Labushkin, who we haven't seen yet, are all very similar size and like style.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_03: And like, but who how do they fit together?
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_03: So like I think that the number one thing is you've gotta figure out the defense.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_03: The the the blue line is like number one priority right now, and that may be something that McFarland does or fixes via trade.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but yeah, it's it's gotta be you have to figure out the blue line.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I just it it in in totality, like the whole thing needs to be figured out.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_03: Um, it's not one pairing, it's not one guy.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_03: It's like, what does this defense even look like?
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_01: What's the deal with defense?
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_01: George McFarlane can't win and hire you.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_01: What is the plan?
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_01: Is it to carry 12 defense in six fours?
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_02: Well, maybe nine or eight.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, sorry, that was my really bad uh Seinfeld impression.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_02: Uh oh, yeah, I got it.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_02: I I figured it out.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_02: I figured it out.
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  SPEAKER_02: On June 1st, you guys mentioned New GM was departed the Avalanche to become president of hockey operations and general manager of the predators.
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  SPEAKER_02: He's made some big moves.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, of course, one of them was bringing in Maverick Bork and Defensive and Ilya Bouchen, like you mentioned, and giving to Dallas a second round pick and a third round pick from Vegas, and then they extended the Quebec native Bork to six years$5.5 million deal.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_02: Kara, have you got any interactions with any of these new guys?
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_02: How do you think they're gonna fit?
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I think when you look at uh Babrik Bork coming in, he's been able to build some interest instant chemistry with Jonathan Marshall.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_00: So I think right away he stands out uh to me as a guy who can come and be an impact player right away.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, you look at uh uh uh the few of the guys that came over from the Colorado Avalanche uh who are familiar with Chris McFarland.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_00: I mean Jack Drury.
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  SPEAKER_00: McFarland has traded for him twice already.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_00: You know, he was in a in a trade earlier in his career and then brought back over.
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  SPEAKER_00: So there's a lot of belief in in Jack and what he's capable of.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_00: I'm excited to see him.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_00: He just uh yesterday was my first chance to actually meet him in person.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_00: And Alex, I don't know if if you've spoken to him a bunch, but you could tell he just has that hockey mindset.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_00: He was on the gold carpet and he was ready to get inside and put his skates on and get out on the ice.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_00: So he stands out to me also.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_00: I felt like Ross Colton had a had a good showing last night in his debut in a Gold Smashville jersey.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, he was able to show kind of the physical bodies that he's able to do.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_00: And also, I think we can agree that these guys have a chance to really shine here as as having bigger roles compared to the teams they were previously on, you know, being with the Avalanche, obviously skating with with guys like like McKinnon and Landiscog, and you've got Cal McCarr on your roster.
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  SPEAKER_00: So what are they able to do now with a bigger role?
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I the only thing I would add is the about Jack Drury is that you know he was named uh one of the assistant captains.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_03: So that they have they have four assistant captains, O'Reilly, Stamcos, Forcesburg, and now Jack Drury.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_03: Um they do like a rotation thing where it's like two of them are at home captains and are at home assistant captains, and then two are road assistant captains.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_03: And I think Jack Drury will be one of the road guys, I believe.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_03: But um uh that I mean that says a lot.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_03: I mean he's 26 years old and just got here, and uh he he definitely uh made made an instant impact in terms of the leadership of the room.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_03: Um he he is not a he's not a very like um I I think he's he's definitely more of the lead by example, kind of like Riley.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_03: Um probably in the room when it's just when it's just them, he's probably more vocal, but like at least publicly.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_03: He's not like a he's not like a uh a big talker or anything, but I I think he he definitely leads by example.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_03: He's an he's an excellent face-off guy, like one of the best face-off guys in the league.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_03: He'll be on the penalty kill pretty much all season.
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  SPEAKER_03: Good replacement for Michael McCarran, who they traded to Minnesota last year.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, really, really physical guy, really smart.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_03: Just I think he's he's probably the one that like instantly brought with him a bunch of chemistry.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_03: Although I would say Kara's right, like the Maverick Bork thing with Jonathan Marchus, like from day one, they those have been stapled together, and uh, I think that that's gonna work out well for both.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_02: That sounds great for those two.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, and again, like you guys mentioned, uh McFarland making those trades with his former club.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Predators uh get uh Jack Jerry, Chase Bradley, and a third round pick, Colorado, which was interesting.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you what you thought about this, Alex, but them uh Colorado getting uh Feder Svechkov and Zachary Lauro.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_02: They were just uh re-locked up or extended in March.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_03: Uh were they?
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_03: I um I didn't I don't remember that.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_03: But I this you know the the the the problem with those two guys, I think Svechkov and LaRue.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_03: Um I I I was surprised when they when McFarlane moved them, but I I think you know we'd already seen kind of what they what the role that they had, and I guess McFarlane just saw something in them that he didn't feel uh would be good for the future, or at least not something that would fit for what he what he wanted.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and also uh you know getting getting the guy he got in was pretty crucial.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_03: So um Svetkov is the one that I would like I think he's probably the most likely to really have success there.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_03: Zach I I think he's probably a uh a tweener at this point, like he's probably an NHL slash AHL guy, a fourth-line winger.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_03: But Svetchkoff could grow into a legit middle six center, and uh that could really work for Colorado, who I mean they already have incredible depth.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_03: If they have even more, that would be great for them.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_03: But um, I yeah, it was a little surprising to see him deal those guys away, but um, I think they did good in the return.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_02: Carrie, you've uh talked to many of the players on the team.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_02: Who do you say has one of those unique personalities?
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, well, we have a great group of guys.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um unique personality.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, losing Luke Evangelista, that was definitely one of the top personalities.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_00: Also, I think, you know, we're kind of missing the the Michael McCarons and the guys that really were able to bring it.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_00: But so far, uh a guy that I have thoroughly enjoyed and I am most excited for this upcoming season is Matt Wood.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_00: I he's a little shy when you talk to him.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_00: He is all hockey all the time.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_00: And um he, you know, I've I think I interviewed him during the preseason.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_00: And then the first his mouth were I just love playing hockey.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_00: And so he is a guy that you can just look to.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_00: He's always uh in a great mood, a great personality.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_00: And um uh like I think that it if things go his way, he could be a huge piece to this puzzle um in the forward lineup.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_02: Last year, UC Saros had another not-so great year who has still has five years left on his 7.7 million contract, while Eustace Ananen was top 20 in saves made above expected in league while making only one million.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_02: Alex, does coach Andrew Burnett have to lean on his cheaper goaltender to have a better chance to make the playoffs?
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I I just think that we're at a place in the NHL where you have more goalie tandems.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's uh you you you are not gonna see the the 70 start workhorse anymore.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_03: You're not gonna see guys get 65 to 70 starts.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I mean, if you see Soros gets 50 starts, that's fine.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_03: Uh even even with what they're paying him.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_03: Um, because uh Oninen is more than capable of getting those other 34.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_03: Um I mean, like would you would you want it to be to where Soros is playing so well that you just have to start him every game for sure?
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_03: But the the league is the league is more uh is faster, the league is is more competitive than ever.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_03: You've got more games in a shorter amount of time, and you have every game is huge.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_03: You can't take games off, you can't you can't like uh take a week off.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_03: You have to be ready to go every night, and goaltenders are a big part of that.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_03: So um I like for example, uh you know, last night UC Saros, what did he make?
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_03: 29 saves, something like that, or 27 saves.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, I think he looked pretty good.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, uh, he was probably one of the better players for the predators last night.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_03: Um, was was really on it.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_03: Uh but I don't know that that means he'll start Saturday.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_03: I I mean I Brunett talked about it at practice today.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I asked if he was sure he was gonna start in in net on Saturday against Dallas, and he said it was a game time decision.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_03: In previous years, I don't even think it would be a question that Saros would start the Saturday game.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_03: Uh now it's like, uh, we might go on and then because you know we don't want to make him do make Saros do too much too early.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_03: So I think it's gonna be a pretty even split, uh, probably more of an even split than it's been in previous years.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_02: Speaking about a ton of players on this team, there still are a ton of RFAs and UFAs in this roster for next season, and new GM Chris McFarland has been able to at least extend them since July 1st.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_02: What's the situation with some of these players?
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_02: Or at least specifically UFA, everybody's favorite veteran, Ryan O'Reilly, former first round pick, Matthew Wood, and uh the guy that they sent down has some good numbers, Ryan Ufko, former fourth round pick, uh Alex, and then you can follow up, Cara.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_03: I'm sorry, the the so you're you're asking like which guys are kind of the next to to be kind of big on the team.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_03: Is that what you're asking?
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry, no, no, no.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_02: I mean they're all UFAs and RFAs.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, like these guys, right?
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_02: So, what do you think are the plans are for oh gotcha McFarland with you know at least Ryan O'Reilly Wood and Ufko?
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, gotcha.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, yeah, no, O'Reilly, I think is um I as much as I would love for Ryan O'Reilly to just play the rest of his career in Asheville, he's been so great since he came in 2023.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I think they have to they have to deal him.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_03: I I don't think that they should sign him to an extension.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_03: He's 35, he still has a lot of value.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_03: Um he could definitely go win a cup somewhere.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_03: Um uh if you go to the right team.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_03: But I so I don't see them extending Ryan O'Reilly or or signing him to to an extra deal.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Ufko um and the other, the other uh who are the other RFAs?
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_03: Matt Matt Wood is the big one.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Matt Wood's definitely gonna get signed.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, they're they're gonna figure out whatever they can.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_03: He's a big part of the future.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_03: Of course I think so.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_03: I think he will get I you know, Ufco, uh it'll it'll be more of like a uh smaller deal, nothing, nothing too big for for right now because we just don't know what he's gonna be.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, but but of the of the contract situation right now for like the young guys, Matt Wood is the one that like they need to make the number one priority.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_03: Get that guy assigned to a good a good team-friendly deal for a few years, uh, because he's he's gotta be a part of the future.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_02: Kara, what one thing would you be happy for us to talk about the team if we talked again in April?
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_02: If it happened.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, in April.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I hope we're thinking about playing in the postseason.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_02: I think yeah, I'll maybe other than that.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_00: That would be the that would make everybody happy to do, right?
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_02: All right, time for some trending now.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_02: Uh New Jersey devil star Jack Hughes didn't seem like he was thrilled when uh ESPN analyst AJ Malenko uh made a comment during their interview during the first intermission of Thursday's season opener against the Philadelphia Flyers.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_02: She quote said, Let's wrap you in bubble wrap and use plastic cutlery this year.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_02: Does that sound good?
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_02: After uh obviously Hughes has had many injuries, and of course the injury that he had last season.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_02: Uh what do you want to add to that, Alex?
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_02: What are your thoughts on it at least?
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_03: I so I I saw this and like it it sparked a lot of conversation in the in the media room where I was at.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_03: Um uh it was a pretty strange moment.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, like I you know, like uh intermission interviews, you know, uh are often tricky, and and Kara obviously has a lot of experience doing that.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_03: And I I I would imagine it's a very a very quick situation where you have to judge immediately what is this guy's state of mind right now?
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_03: You know, like is it like what's this game situation?
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_03: Are they losing?
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_03: Are they winning?
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_03: How is he playing?
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_03: What's going on in the ice?
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_03: And like you have to make a really quick call on like what kind of question am I gonna ask?
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_03: Uh what kind of a response am I gonna get?
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_03: What am I, what's my what's the end result gonna look like here?
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_03: And she is absolutely a professional, she's great at what she does.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_03: I I have no problem with the comments she made, or I'm sorry, the I guess the question, I guess it was kind of more of a question comment at the end there.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I thought his reaction was was crazy.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_03: I I don't understand why he got so upset about it.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, like I I I think that there's a part of it that I understand he's kind of in game mode, but like like your injury was pretty silly, man, with the stake knife stuff and uh like the plastic cutlery was just like a throw.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_03: Like it would be so easy for him to just kind of skate away and just laugh it off and move on.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_03: But he chose not to do that, and he chose to make himself uh um to get upset about it.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_03: And um, I just find I found it really silly.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_03: I I did not understand why he got so upset.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_03: I thought the question was fine.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_03: Um uh I you know, but but again, saying like it's a tough job doing those interview, uh interview um interview roles because you just don't you don't know what you're gonna get, you don't know what what kind of reaction uh you're gonna get out of this player.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_02: Uh speaking about a person who's dealing with health issues, I sometimes you have to put yourself in their shoes, and I am doing that with Jack Hughes.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_02: If you're dealing with health problems, no matter how it happened, you deal with a lot of bouts of depression.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't think, especially some of the younger people or people who haven't dealt with health issues understand that.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_02: And being a pro-athlete, it's even probably more further on because you don't know what you're gonna what's gonna happen with your career, or say maybe a Jack Hughes who's dealt with a couple of injuries, and it's it's it's really hard to get through, and it's a little depressing.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_02: And if you finally get to do what you love to do, it's it's a little it's a little tough situation on my end.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Kara, for you were you ever in a situation yourself and that you might have put a a question out there and then you didn't feel great about it?
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, all the time.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's just part of being a reporter.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, in any in any situation, right?
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like there's always a question where you think, ah, I wish I could have that one back, or I wish I would have phrased there as a reporter anywhere who has not felt like there was just a way they could have raised it, phrased it better.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it happens to all of us.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, and that's why I try to be a little quirky because if I do stumble, yeah, that guy's just not fool.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_02: All right, and then of course, last night we had a goalie goal.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody loves a goalie goal, don't we?
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, the New York Rangers goaltender Igor Shirkin completed the win with his goalie goal.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_02: So there's been roughly 20 goalie goals in NHL history, but we've seen like six in like the last three years, which is crazy.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_02: What's going on with goalie goals?
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_02: Kara, do you like goalie goals?
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_00: I love goalie goals.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, who doesn't love the uh Paccarina goalie goal?
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like we've showed that a million times in the reaction from our uh broadcast goalie, Chris Mason.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Alex Wood.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_03: There you go.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_03: I I uh I think this is the this has to be the first one that happened on like opening week, right?
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_03: Like I can't remember there ever one happening this early in the season.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_03: Usually they're spread out, so like this has to be the first one that that's happened in the opening night area.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's I I'm pretty sure it's pretty uh the only one that's happened this early, but it's crazy.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_02: Like, there's been six in the last three years or something.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_02: So line Linese Allmark 2023, Tristan Jerry 2023, Philip Gustafson, Alex Njelkovich, Ilya Sirokin, 2025, and now Shishurkin.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_02: What do you what do you think?
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_02: I believe and of course you guys mentioned uh Renee one happened in 2020.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_02: Why do you think Alex is happening more frequently now?
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I well probably because more more teams are pulling their like pulling an empty net uh in situations where they probably don't need to, like where they're up two.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_03: I'm sorry, where they're down two.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_03: Uh so like the goalies can yeah, when they're when you're only up one, you're not gonna try it.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_03: But like if you're up two, you're gonna try it.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_03: If definitely if you're up three, so like you see them in that situation.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_03: Well, by the way, I I believe uh I I I think it's still true that I believe Nashville is the only team that has scored one and also had one scored against them.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_03: Um because Ilya Sorokins was against against the Predators, um, and of course Pecorina.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_03: So I I believe that's right.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_03: At the very least, it's that the goalie actually took a shot because you know sometimes they get credit for the goals.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_03: Like I think Chris Mason's goal was uh was like that, where it was like he got credit for it.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_03: Isn't that right, Kara?
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_03: It was like he didn't shoot it, it was like uh it just went in.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_03: Is that what happened?
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_00: I kind of think so.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we'll have to confirm with Mace.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but I I believe Nashville's the only team that has had one scored on them and also scored one, so well, we gotta ask Chris uh Mason because he's the goalie expert.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_02: All right, that's it for this episode, Kara.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you for joining me.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_00: And Alex, thanks for having me.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and Alex, thanks for coming back.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_02: Definitely, Peter, I appreciate it.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, thanks.
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