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04/22/2026 The Dave Allen Show on 580 Live - Johnny Rutherford, Tom Takubo & Margaret Leaf · The Dave Allen Show

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the show. Now our resident pickleball experts John Rutherford,
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Speaker 4: along with we have Samantha Sparks from Recovery Point, and
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Speaker 4: I do want to explain there is there's not going
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Speaker 4: to be a Metro nine to one one pickleball tournament
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Speaker 4: this year, as our husband past, but there is going
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Speaker 4: to be another one. We're going to get into all that. Johnny.
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Speaker 4: We will welcome you into the show. Thanks for being here,
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Speaker 4: my friend. All right, your mike's not working there, John
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Speaker 4: for some reason. Okay, well I'll tell you what, John,
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Speaker 4: how about we have you move over here. We've had
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Speaker 4: some issues with that microphone in the past. Antoine, if
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Speaker 4: you could get a hold of Dale Cooper and tell
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Speaker 4: him we're down a microphone again. I would appreciate it.
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Speaker 4: We've had an issue with that in the past. Let's
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Speaker 4: try you again, John Good morning day, how you knowing?
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Speaker 4: My friend?
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Speaker 3: Doing great? It's good to see you.
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Speaker 4: All right, There's nothing like when that happens on the air.
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Speaker 4: That's what happened last week, and we thought we had
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Speaker 4: it fixed. It was working yesterday, but well you show
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Speaker 4: up and broke you broke it. I have a tendency
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Speaker 4: to do that now, all right, Johnny Rutherford isserve. We'll
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Speaker 4: to start this old thing over again. How you been
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Speaker 4: my friend.
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Speaker 3: I know, I'm great. I'm enjoying retirement helping them.
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Speaker 4: Now, what did you do to deserve a retirement?
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Speaker 3: I don't know. Fifty some years law enforcement and Metro
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Speaker 3: nine on one, but I'm enjoying retirement very much. My
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Speaker 3: wife and I are very happy helping us to this.
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Speaker 3: South Charleston will have been on.
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Speaker 4: Some boards and are you actually getting to enjoy retirement
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Speaker 4: or are you actually very very happy? Okay, all right,
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Speaker 4: I'm just saying I mean retirement to different people means
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Speaker 4: different things.
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Speaker 3: Now, I'm one of those people that I still see
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Speaker 3: my friends and visit my friends. I am very very
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Speaker 3: heavy individual, right now all right and.
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Speaker 4: Talk about this event, and we're going to introduce also
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Speaker 4: Samantha Sparks who is with us. But talk about what
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Speaker 4: you're doing this year. Not I'm doing the typical Metro
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Speaker 4: nine to one one pickleball, but you are doing something else.
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Speaker 3: To talk about it, right Metro. Of course, I retired
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Speaker 3: Metro nine when one decided they weren't going to have
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Speaker 3: the tournament this year, which is fine. We had a
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Speaker 3: great run. We had a great tournament. But through the
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Speaker 3: Nitro Facility down Nitro the best facility in West Virginia.
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Speaker 3: We have lined up a few tournaments, but coming up
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Speaker 3: May sixteenth and seventeenth will be the Paddles for Purpose
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Speaker 3: Pickleball tournament that is being held to help raise funds
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Speaker 3: for a recovery point to help their programs and so forth.
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Speaker 3: The fifteenth will be an open night where we have
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Speaker 3: music and we invite people to come and play pickleball
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Speaker 3: for free and just enjoy the Nitro facility. May sixteenth
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Speaker 3: will be doubles for gender to males and females, and
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Speaker 3: then on Sunday we'll be mixed doubles and we're inviting
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Speaker 3: people come down and play enjoy it. And enjoy employee
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Speaker 3: watch players play. Also with the great social atmosphere that
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Speaker 3: will have down there, we hope you can come down
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Speaker 3: and see us.
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Speaker 4: All right, and you're going to be been out as
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Speaker 4: you said the folks Recovery Point, Samantha Sparks said with us, Samantha,
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Speaker 4: welcome to the show, your first time on the show.
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Speaker 4: Appreciate you being here.
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Speaker 2: Thanks a lotch, Thank you so much.
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Speaker 5: I'm glad to be here, all.
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Speaker 4: Right, So talk about this partnership. I tell that you
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Speaker 4: guys are going to get.
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Speaker 5: Up this absolutely yes.
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Speaker 6: So.
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Speaker 5: Recovery Point West Virginia is a nonprofit organization that provides
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Speaker 5: long term residential recovery programming to men and women who
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Speaker 5: struggle with substance use disorder. And people are actually surprised
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Speaker 5: to find out that it's at no cost whatsoever to
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Speaker 5: our clients. Most folks are in our programming anywhere from
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Speaker 5: nine to twelve months and they receive you know, recovery skills,
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Speaker 5: live skills training, and just a plan to kind of
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Speaker 5: make that transition back into their communities. We actually have
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Speaker 5: four different facilities throughout the state, around eighty to one
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Speaker 5: hundred clients per facility, So around you know, three seventy five,
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Speaker 5: four hundred people, and even though we do get funding
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Speaker 5: from the state around eighteen dollars per day per client,
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Speaker 5: it actually costs us a little over forty dollars per
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Speaker 5: client per day to provide the services that they're getting.
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Speaker 5: So we have to have fundraisers and donations and count
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Speaker 5: on grants also to help fill this funding gap. So
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Speaker 5: we're really excited to partner with you know, the prior
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Speaker 5: Metro nine one one folks here that are helping us
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Speaker 5: again just to continue to spread awareness of our program
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Speaker 5: and how important it is, and again to help us
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Speaker 5: provide those services that we're able to provide.
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Speaker 4: What's the current state of the recovery community, because you know,
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Speaker 4: we've gone through cycles, Samantha and West Virginia. You know,
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Speaker 4: we have the opioid crisis back in John you were
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Speaker 4: in law enforcement at that time, you know all about
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Speaker 4: it in the nineties, and it's kind of transition. Where
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Speaker 4: are we as far as getting I'm not going to
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Speaker 4: get in the specifics of the addictions, but where are
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Speaker 4: we as far as getting people the help that they
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Speaker 4: need in West Virginia right now?
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Speaker 5: I mean, I think we're continuing to move forward, and
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Speaker 5: like I said, you know, obviously there's a lot of
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Speaker 5: stigma around people in recovery, and I think the more
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Speaker 5: advocates we can have of people who are not in recovery,
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Speaker 5: I think that is so important. So I think just
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Speaker 5: reaching those parts of our stay and being in those communities.
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Speaker 5: Our clients do a lot of service work also in
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Speaker 5: our communities, so you know, that's positive experience for those
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Speaker 5: in the community to have interactions with them, because at
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Speaker 5: the end of the day, you know, they're people, and
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Speaker 5: my mistakes just look a little bit different than theirs.
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Speaker 5: So at the end of the day, you know, we're
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Speaker 5: just trying to provide that help to these people to
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Speaker 5: get back on their feet.
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Speaker 4: Now, how long have you been involved with Recovery Points.
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Speaker 5: I've been there about five months, so I'm still pretty new.
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Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, what's what was the learning experience like for
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Speaker 4: you when you came in? I mean, what have you
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Speaker 4: learned on the job?
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Speaker 5: Yeah? So I'm actually here from public education, so it
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Speaker 5: was a whole different kind of sectorship for me into
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Speaker 5: nonprofit work. But I'm so happy to be here. And
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Speaker 5: I also didn't have a lot of tremendous knowledge about recovery.
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Speaker 5: So I'm also new to the recovery world, learning a
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Speaker 5: lot about just kind of twelve this twelve step programming
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Speaker 5: and alcohol iss Anonymous, which we use there in our
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Speaker 5: programming too. So I'm learning a lot. And you know,
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Speaker 5: it's been an honor to talk with our clients and
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Speaker 5: hear about some of the things they've experienced.
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Speaker 4: What's the biggest misconception you think that the general public
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Speaker 4: has about the recovery community.
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Speaker 5: That it is simply just a choice or poor more
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Speaker 5: and and it's truly an illness and it's in this
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Speaker 5: addiction and it can be treated.
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Speaker 4: Smother of sparks is here h and also John Ruththerart,
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Speaker 4: I want to talk about the continuing growth and the
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Speaker 4: popularity of pickleball. You and I been You've been coming
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Speaker 4: on the show the last couple of years. I know
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Speaker 4: where I live over in Tay's Valley. One of the
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Speaker 4: housing developments that just open up there put in pickleball courts,
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Speaker 4: uh inside within the housing development over there.
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Speaker 3: This things huge, It's huge, it keeps growing. What's fun
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Speaker 3: to watch is it started off as a senior citizen
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Speaker 3: type program.
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Speaker 4: Now, but how did you get that? Because you're nowhere
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Speaker 4: near of seniors.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Now, it's it's it's great. It's such a great sport.
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Speaker 3: It's it's a great The great part about it it's
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Speaker 3: so social. It's Uh, you play, you play game and
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Speaker 3: you you put everything you have into it in best
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Speaker 3: and afterwards you shake hands and uh, you meet so
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Speaker 3: many people. What's fun to watch Right now, there's so
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Speaker 3: many young people get into it. This is filtering down
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Speaker 3: to the high schools now. Uh, the high school teams
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Speaker 3: are having club clubs that now have pickleball in it
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Speaker 3: and everything. I live in South Charleston and I go
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Speaker 3: by job On Park and every day after school there's
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Speaker 3: a there's a whole group of kids from South Charleston
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Speaker 3: and g W High School. Plan.
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Speaker 4: You talked about it being club sports, but eventually I
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Speaker 4: think we're going to see that as an s sac
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Speaker 4: sport in West Virginia. I think, I mean, along with
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Speaker 4: wrestling and track and all the other things. I think
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Speaker 4: you're gonna see pickleballs part of that.
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Speaker 3: I think it will be. We've talked about that. We've
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Speaker 3: we've we've always had the thing to three to five years,
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Speaker 3: we'll have a have that in the state, and we
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Speaker 3: we believe that Nitro has the best facility in the state.
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Speaker 4: Twice you said that.
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Speaker 3: Now I know, and they would be a great place
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Speaker 3: to have the tournament. But you know, I want to say,
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Speaker 3: but well, like you said, Nitro has their courts. Centa
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Speaker 3: Holmeons has recently put in courts. Charleston has courts. South
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Speaker 3: Charleston has multiple courts all of the city. It's grown
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Speaker 3: so much. It's just it's just a great sport. And uh,
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Speaker 3: it's it's very social and you can really get out
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Speaker 3: and meet some people and it's welcoming.
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Speaker 6: Uh.
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Speaker 3: They take people from all ages and all skilled levels.
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Speaker 3: The tournament itself. You can register for the tournament at
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Speaker 3: Pickleball tournaments dot com and you can actually you you've
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Speaker 3: played from fifty below or fifteen above, from a very
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Speaker 3: beginning beginner to almost a very skilled person.
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Speaker 4: Now you know, you've done the Metro nine to one
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Speaker 4: one term for the last couple of years, this time
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Speaker 4: re achieving up in the recovery point. Why do I mean,
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Speaker 4: I don't see why the switch, but why recovery point
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Speaker 4: because you have helped a lot of different.
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Speaker 3: You know, I have been around recovery point a little bit,
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Speaker 3: especially with the Sheriff's office. We worked at times well
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Speaker 3: you know, close to each other there. We always have
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Speaker 3: an event every year were Recovery Point invites down local
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Speaker 3: law enforcement and we get to see some of the
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Speaker 3: people that we have met working that have changed their lives.
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Speaker 3: And it's very impressive to watch these people change their
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Speaker 3: lives and you see what it's done for some people's lives.
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Speaker 3: So we're personally, I'm very proud to be part of
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Speaker 3: this because I've seen it change lives, but most of all,
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Speaker 3: I've seen them changed their families. That's important.
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Speaker 4: Nine to eighteen, And I think it's a very good
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Speaker 4: point that you bring up in Samantha. You can weigh
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Speaker 4: in on this that when somebody is in the throes
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Speaker 4: of addiction, it's not just that person. It is, as
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Speaker 4: John said, it's the family, it's the loved ones, it's
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Speaker 4: the friends, everybody, for lack of a better term, everybody
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Speaker 4: is suffering at that point.
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Speaker 5: Absolutely, Yep, everyone is affected.
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Speaker 4: John give us all the details again.
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Speaker 3: Well, register now at Pickaball tournaments dot com and we'd
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Speaker 3: love to see you. The tournament is in May fifteenth
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Speaker 3: or excuse me, sixteenth and seventeenth. Come on down, but
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Speaker 3: go to Pickleball Tournaments dot com and register and come
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Speaker 3: on down and play. And if you don't want to play,
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Speaker 3: just come down and meet a great group of people
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Speaker 3: and see the facility and what we've got here in
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Speaker 3: Kanaal County.
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Speaker 4: All right, and Samantha, if people want more information about
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Speaker 4: Recovery Point, give us that contact information.
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Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely, so they can go to Recovery Point WV
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Speaker 5: dot org and can read more about our organization there
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Speaker 5: and even register for the Pickaball tournament there as well.
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Speaker 4: All Right, John and Samantha, I appreciate you being here.
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Speaker 4: Because with your background, you would think I'm gonna speak
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Speaker 4: as you. You would think I want to stay as
16:14
Speaker 4: far away from the stuff as possible. But do you
16:15
Speaker 4: saw something that you thought you could help? What made
16:17
Speaker 4: you decide to want to get into politics?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: I was zero political. But in twenty fourteen, you know,
16:23
Speaker 2: if people remember we had been under Democrat control for
16:25
Speaker 2: about eighty two years. West Virginia was not in a
16:28
Speaker 2: great place. Coal mines were shutting down, jobs or leaving.
16:31
Speaker 2: We were in five hundred six hundred million dollar deficit,
16:35
Speaker 2: and some folks came to me and said, hey, listen,
16:37
Speaker 2: we've heard you may be interested in being involved, and
16:40
Speaker 2: it would make a tremendous difference as we try to
16:43
Speaker 2: change the trajectory of West Virginia to have a physician
16:46
Speaker 2: when it comes to healthcare. At the time, I remember Obamacare,
16:48
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff was a hot, hot button topic,
16:51
Speaker 2: and so it's kind of one of those things. You know,
16:52
Speaker 2: we either put up or shut up. But you know,
16:56
Speaker 2: I've always been a big believer in servant and trying
16:58
Speaker 2: to give back any way that you can. And so
17:01
Speaker 2: I threw my name in the hat and I was
17:04
Speaker 2: kind of the dog that caught the car, and here
17:05
Speaker 2: I am, here you are. What have you been most
17:07
Speaker 2: proud of during your time in office? Just a couple
17:09
Speaker 2: of things, I mean big, big things with healthcare. So,
17:12
Speaker 2: for example, one of the biggest challenges for any healthcare
17:15
Speaker 2: provider in West Virginia is just trying to get people
17:18
Speaker 2: to be able to afford their medications. I mean, you
17:20
Speaker 2: literally will spend sometimes a third of your time just
17:22
Speaker 2: trying to figure that out. And one of the things
17:24
Speaker 2: we've been able to do is PBM legislation that gets
17:28
Speaker 2: down the weeds into the particulars. But pabms are very
17:31
Speaker 2: complex systems. They control the prices on drugs. Legislation that
17:36
Speaker 2: we done became the model for the entire country so
17:39
Speaker 2: that it kept prices lower. I know they're still crazy expensive,
17:43
Speaker 2: but they would have been a lot higher had we
17:46
Speaker 2: not worked.
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Speaker 3: On some of that.
17:47
Speaker 2: But that's one big key piece that sticks out. Another
17:49
Speaker 2: one was two seventy eight. You know, we have a
17:52
Speaker 2: horrible substance abuse crisis. You know, my legislation back then
17:56
Speaker 2: dropped opioid prescribing over fifty percent in the state of Virginia.
18:00
Speaker 2: As a consequence of that, we're seeing you know, it's
18:03
Speaker 2: taking several years to take place, but we're seeing overdose
18:05
Speaker 2: rates drop far more dramatically than the rest of the country.
18:08
Speaker 2: So those are things that I'm very proud.
18:09
Speaker 4: Of what's been left undone, or in other words, if
18:13
Speaker 4: you are reelected, what do you still hope to accomplish.
18:15
Speaker 2: Listen, we always have new problems. I mean, look right now,
18:18
Speaker 2: what's going on with the sixty minute special where you've
18:21
Speaker 2: got people drinking muddy water down to mcdowll and Wyoming
18:24
Speaker 2: and other places to West Virginia. You look at our
18:27
Speaker 2: education system. I've been a big supporter of school choice. However,
18:31
Speaker 2: the fact is ninety percent of our kids are still
18:33
Speaker 2: in the public school system, and we need to really
18:36
Speaker 2: address the foundation to set our public school kids for
18:39
Speaker 2: success over the next ten twenty years. These are things
18:42
Speaker 2: that need to be tackled, need to be addressed. Healthcare
18:45
Speaker 2: obviously still a major major issue, So we'll never not
18:50
Speaker 2: have problems here in West Virginia. It's the point is,
18:53
Speaker 2: do you have people that's willing to roll up your
18:55
Speaker 2: sleeves do the hard things, not be worrying about political points,
18:59
Speaker 2: and doing what's right for the people West Virginia to
19:01
Speaker 2: try to fix these problems and make them, as you know,
19:04
Speaker 2: as good as we can make them for people in.
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Speaker 4: You talked about again, we're talking to Senator Tom Tacuba.
19:09
Speaker 4: You talked about the changeover. You have eighty three years
19:13
Speaker 4: of Democrat rule. You were there when it rolled into Republican.
19:16
Speaker 4: Now it's it was a little at of time. Now
19:18
Speaker 4: it's become what I have phrased, a super duper majority
19:21
Speaker 4: within the Republican Party. That's that's quite a change, especially
19:24
Speaker 4: for somebody, as you said, who's originally from southern West Virginia.
19:27
Speaker 4: You've seen the change. It's really remarkable, the changeover after
19:32
Speaker 4: all those years to now being republican, I mean, way
19:35
Speaker 4: way far republican.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And we did that with fundamental conservative values. Right.
19:42
Speaker 2: We went and tackled hard things, and I was the
19:43
Speaker 2: leadership for much of that, right. But we did the
19:46
Speaker 2: big ticket items. We were pro life, pro gun, pro business,
19:52
Speaker 2: pro jobs we got. I went all over the world,
19:57
Speaker 2: all over the country, telling West Virginia story, trying to
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Speaker 2: recruit and bring things back here. We got new Corps
20:02
Speaker 2: and time Ats and form Energies and all these companies
20:05
Speaker 2: that came to West Virginia doing the things that we
20:07
Speaker 2: set out to do. And that's what I've said for
20:10
Speaker 2: many years. We grew that super majority, not because we
20:14
Speaker 2: were trying to just go out and recruit as many
20:16
Speaker 2: Republicans as we can, but the people West Virginia saw
20:19
Speaker 2: the changes that were taking place, and they rewarded us
20:22
Speaker 2: for that. And so when we've gotten into the past,
20:26
Speaker 2: you know, a couple of years, we've taken a turn
20:28
Speaker 2: away from those conservative principles and we're doing things more
20:35
Speaker 2: for political points, and as a consequence of that, you're
20:38
Speaker 2: starting to see us regress and backtrack, which which is
20:41
Speaker 2: incredibly concerning.
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Speaker 4: Hey, it's been said to me, Tom that there's many
20:46
Speaker 4: people that have said that they think that the original
20:50
Speaker 4: message that got the Republicans in charge, when that big
20:53
Speaker 4: changeover was made twenty fourteen, whatever it was, that it's
20:57
Speaker 4: starting to I'm not saying it's going away, but it's
20:59
Speaker 4: the people are starting to get away from that a
21:02
Speaker 4: little bit, and they're starting to drift a little bit
21:04
Speaker 4: into these other things.
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Speaker 2: Would you agree or disagree with that? Yeah, I would
21:06
Speaker 2: agree with that, because you know, it's easy. Just do
21:09
Speaker 2: the right thing. People see that, they respect that, they
21:13
Speaker 2: will reward that. But for some reason things have shifted
21:19
Speaker 2: and it's more about political points. It's more about talking
21:24
Speaker 2: points than it is actually doing the work and getting
21:26
Speaker 2: things done. And I have concerns that if we continue that,
21:31
Speaker 2: we're going to continue to aggress in the wrong direction.
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Speaker 4: What if you had to go back and look at
21:37
Speaker 4: the twenty twenty six legislative session, what's your takeaway from it?
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, we haven't done anything for the past
21:44
Speaker 2: two years, and that's what's been hard to say and watch.
21:47
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I've said so many times, a
21:50
Speaker 2: job is so much more than a paycheck. We worked
21:52
Speaker 2: for about a year and a half, just as an example,
21:54
Speaker 2: with a bill called Teams West Virginia. Now, now this
21:57
Speaker 2: was modeled after Jobs Ohio, Jobs Ohio as a program
22:00
Speaker 2: by Governor Casey back in the day. I think he's
22:02
Speaker 2: around twenty twelve, wildly successful, seven billion dollars of new investment,
22:06
Speaker 2: new in jobs, in Ohio. He came here as a
22:09
Speaker 2: consult and worked with us for about a year and
22:10
Speaker 2: a half, and he said, hey, we did a lot
22:12
Speaker 2: of great things, but we didn't get it all right,
22:14
Speaker 2: but I'll help you guys do a better job on
22:18
Speaker 2: the bill and what we did, and these guys had
22:21
Speaker 2: no interest in it. They actually fought against pushing it.
22:25
Speaker 2: This kind of stuff makes no sense to me. Now,
22:26
Speaker 2: when you say these guys had no interest in it,
22:29
Speaker 2: I mean you're not. I don't I don't think and
22:30
Speaker 2: I want to put words in the mouth time. You're
22:32
Speaker 2: not talking about Democrats, You're talking about other Republicans. I'm
22:34
Speaker 2: talking about talking about the leadership of the Senate.
22:37
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, it's been it's been a campaign, this
22:41
Speaker 4: Republican primary, all of the say to West Virginia quite frankly,
22:44
Speaker 4: like no other. I mean, it's been kind of ugly.
22:48
Speaker 4: You walked in carrying a flyer that many people got
22:50
Speaker 4: in the mail over the last couple of days. What
22:52
Speaker 4: do you make of this that the Republican primary has
22:56
Speaker 4: turned out to be as nasty as what it is?
22:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, I don't think there's anything Republican
23:01
Speaker 2: about it, to be honest with you. So if you
23:02
Speaker 2: look at all the junk that is coming through the mail,
23:05
Speaker 2: this is all dark money from out of the state
23:08
Speaker 2: of West Virginia. You know, politics is supposed to be local.
23:11
Speaker 2: It's supposed to be about the people that you know,
23:13
Speaker 2: that you trust, that you know inside politics, outside politics,
23:16
Speaker 2: that you can put your faith in. This money that's
23:19
Speaker 2: pouring into West Virginia that we've never seen before. This
23:22
Speaker 2: is all coming from d C, New York, New Jersey, California,
23:26
Speaker 2: all recruited to come in here and run against local people.
23:30
Speaker 2: And the question I would have is why, Because it
23:33
Speaker 2: shouldn't cost anything. You know, if I'm going to spend
23:35
Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of dollars or people willing to do that,
23:38
Speaker 2: they want something in return. If it's good, it would
23:43
Speaker 2: be free. Right, every legislator, doesn't matter if it's a
23:45
Speaker 2: Republican or Democrat. We all sign up for this job
23:48
Speaker 2: to do good things for West Virginia. That's free. We're
23:52
Speaker 2: eager we want to do that. So if someone's out
23:54
Speaker 2: there willing to spend literally it's over a million dollars
23:57
Speaker 2: now in just this primary, why it's not something good?
24:01
Speaker 2: I can tell you that and then the second question
24:04
Speaker 2: is where are you going to find the people that
24:06
Speaker 2: you can buy that's willing to push this agenda. And
24:10
Speaker 2: and that's what we're seeing, all these flyers. It's a
24:13
Speaker 2: bunch of it's a bunch of bologney. It's all lies.
24:15
Speaker 2: They know it's lies. And that's that's what's uh tough
24:18
Speaker 2: to watch these guys. You know, they were there one
24:20
Speaker 2: of what you know, they've they've come out and said
24:21
Speaker 2: all kinds of things on me. They've junked everybody's mailboxes
24:25
Speaker 2: saying that we we don't want boys and girls. You know, look,
24:28
Speaker 2: I've got two daughters. Uh, they played contact sports, lacrosse, soccer, basketball.
24:33
Speaker 2: I would flip my lid if they let a boy
24:35
Speaker 2: play in girls sports, right, they shouldn't do it. But
24:39
Speaker 2: they'll say all this stuff. You know, Amy Grady was there,
24:41
Speaker 2: she said, Tom, I was there.
24:43
Speaker 3: I was there.
24:43
Speaker 2: I know they're lying.
24:44
Speaker 11: You.
24:45
Speaker 2: You fought for that. You explained all this to them.
24:48
Speaker 2: What we were against was the fact that they were
24:50
Speaker 2: trying to regulate in c Doublelake something completely different than
24:53
Speaker 2: than the boys and girls sports. But they don't care,
24:55
Speaker 2: they'll lie, they'll say whatever.
24:57
Speaker 4: And again I think it's really interesting. I'm not taking
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Speaker 4: insides either way, but but I am I'm looking at
25:04
Speaker 4: this saying that this is almost unheard of in a
25:06
Speaker 4: primary like this isn't this isn't the Democrats coming against
25:11
Speaker 4: you and others. This is Republicans, as you say, your words,
25:15
Speaker 4: from out a state that are coming against you and others.
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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think they're Republicans. They said they you know,
25:20
Speaker 2: some of these guys act like they're the they're the
25:22
Speaker 2: the ultra right. I don't think there's anything right about them, because,
25:25
Speaker 2: I mean, think about it, what are conservative values. We
25:28
Speaker 2: believe in small government, local control, spending control. They don't
25:33
Speaker 2: do any of that. You know, they want to tell
25:35
Speaker 2: you exactly how to live, how you're going to do it.
25:38
Speaker 2: That they vote big government. They say they want tax cuts,
25:41
Speaker 2: but they don't control spending. They don't do revenue measures
25:45
Speaker 2: to grow the budget so that you can do these things.
25:46
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, prime examples is the candidate run
25:49
Speaker 2: against me, you know, the flyer that we brought in, right,
25:51
Speaker 2: it's and they didn't just wasn't on me that this
25:54
Speaker 2: was all over the state. This is these groups from
25:56
Speaker 2: out of state doing cookie cutter things.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you actually brought this particular flyer, and and I'll
26:00
Speaker 4: explain this to the listeners. I saw that someone sent
26:04
Speaker 4: that to me from northern West Virginia yesterday with somebody
26:08
Speaker 4: totally different than you. It wasn't even you. But it's
26:10
Speaker 4: the same picture, just photoshopped.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, you know. So it's a picture of me
26:14
Speaker 2: beside AOC and Joe Biden and we're baseball uniforms and
26:19
Speaker 2: they've got big d's And they said, hey, Guba's bad
26:22
Speaker 2: for the wrong side. You're talking about a guy who led,
26:25
Speaker 2: who was the majority leader, that led the most conservative
26:30
Speaker 2: agenda in the entire country, and now all of a sudden,
26:33
Speaker 2: I'm a Democrat. But what they're trying to do is
26:34
Speaker 2: a distraction. So if you look at my opponent, for example,
26:37
Speaker 2: his campaign funds, the vast majority of his money is
26:40
Speaker 2: from Democrats. So why if he's such an ultra conservative,
26:46
Speaker 2: why do conservatives not want to funding. That's the question
26:50
Speaker 2: voter should be asked. And don't take my word for it,
26:52
Speaker 2: just go look it up on the campaign finance reports,
26:55
Speaker 2: and it's the whole thing is a distraction. Look at
26:59
Speaker 2: the agenda. You know, they don't want us talking about
27:02
Speaker 2: the fact that that people's got horrible drinking water conditions.
27:06
Speaker 2: They don't want to talk about the fact that this
27:08
Speaker 2: glade formula needs to be fixed so that the public
27:11
Speaker 2: school kids can be protected. They don't want to talk
27:14
Speaker 2: about the fact that healthcare is still tough, affordability is
27:19
Speaker 2: still tough. So that they distract you, and they talk
27:21
Speaker 2: about issues that have been done, We voted these things,
27:24
Speaker 2: they're done. This is all stuff in the past, but
27:27
Speaker 2: they want to continue to distract people away from the
27:30
Speaker 2: realities of what we need to be working on. And
27:32
Speaker 2: that's troubling.
27:34
Speaker 4: How's the campaign gone. And when you've been out on
27:36
Speaker 4: the trail, whether you're door knocking or candidate forums or
27:38
Speaker 4: whatever you do, what are you hearing from people? Senator?
27:41
Speaker 2: Same thing. They're they're tired. They're tired of the muck
27:44
Speaker 2: and agenda. They're they're they're tired of the lies that
27:46
Speaker 2: are being told. They're tired of the stuff coming in
27:49
Speaker 2: their mailboxes.
27:51
Speaker 7: You know.
27:51
Speaker 2: The question I keep getting asked is why are they
27:53
Speaker 2: not talking about real issues? Why are they not talking
27:55
Speaker 2: about things that matter to us? And and the fact
27:58
Speaker 2: is they don't. They don't have an agenda, so that
28:00
Speaker 2: They're just going to keep distracting until they can. You know,
28:03
Speaker 2: they'll try to get elected and then they'll try to
28:05
Speaker 2: do these things that the dark money people want them
28:07
Speaker 2: to do.
28:08
Speaker 4: You have a campaign website or social media or anything
28:11
Speaker 4: you want to want to plug.
28:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, just doctor Tom Tacubo dot com is a website.
28:15
Speaker 2: But you know, of course we have Facebook, doctor Tom
28:18
Speaker 2: Tacubo for Senate. But and of course my contact stuff's
28:22
Speaker 2: on there. Anybody has questions, feel free to reach out
28:24
Speaker 2: to me. I'm happy to call you and talk about
28:26
Speaker 2: these issues.
28:27
Speaker 4: Final thirty, Why should someone vote to re elect Tom
28:29
Speaker 4: to Cubo to State Senate.
28:31
Speaker 2: People know what they're going to get. You know, I've
28:33
Speaker 2: worked with the people for many years, both inside politics
28:36
Speaker 2: and outside politics. They know I'm going to do absolutely
28:39
Speaker 2: everything I can to try to help make their lives better.
28:42
Speaker 2: I'm going to do it with integrity. I'm wanna do
28:44
Speaker 2: it with honesty, and if that's what they're looking for,
28:47
Speaker 2: that's that's what they'll get.
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Speaker 4: Doctor Tom Tacubo, State Senator. I appreciate you being here,
28:52
Speaker 4: best the Lucky in your campaign. Thanks a lot.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks thanks for having me.
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Speaker 4: Thanks for being here, and what officer. Are you running
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Speaker 4: for I'm not running for office. I wish I was.
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Speaker 15: No, we may have.
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Speaker 4: We might have a breaking story here. You want to
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Speaker 14: Oh, I don't know. But if I ever do, you
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Speaker 4: a headline here from the City of Charleston, the city's
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Speaker 4: Municipal Beautification Commission in the canag Garden Clubs celebrating the
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Speaker 4: city's one thousandth tree initiative, the Appalachian Spring Project. So
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Speaker 4: talk about that.
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Speaker 14: That's right. So our city Municipal Beautification Commission Committee has
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Speaker 14: seeded a project to not only beautify the area with
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Speaker 14: one thousand trees, but it also, we hope is going
31:45
Speaker 14: to have an economic impact. It's going to improve the
31:48
Speaker 14: quality of air in the city. I think it's going
31:51
Speaker 14: to just bring people out to enjoy and see the area.
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Speaker 14: And I think when visitors come by, they'll be drawn in.
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Speaker 14: So we we has started planting a thousand.
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Speaker 4: Trees, a lot of trees.
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Speaker 14: Yes, it's a lot of trees, and it's taken a
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Speaker 14: lot of experts, local experts, people national experts have helped
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Speaker 14: catalog the current trees that we have and figured out,
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Speaker 14: you know, where the new trees can go, what we
32:17
Speaker 14: can do with our current trees. And it's going to
32:20
Speaker 14: be what's called an urban canopy here in Charleston.
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Speaker 4: Okay, So why is this so important? I mean, we
32:25
Speaker 4: all love trees, but give us the health aspects of it,
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Speaker 4: give us a rece of Why is this so important?
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Speaker 14: It's really important, I think, especially for us here in Charleston,
32:34
Speaker 14: a community that you know, our populations a little bit
32:38
Speaker 14: on the decline. We've had our coal industry past, we've
32:42
Speaker 14: lost some chemical jobs. So this is it's I would say,
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Speaker 14: it's a strategic beautification project. So as you said, it's
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Speaker 14: not just about the trees, it's about improving our quality
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Speaker 14: of air, our quality of life. You know, studies show
32:57
Speaker 14: that just by having more trees around you in a
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Speaker 14: city can make residents feel better. There's actually a market
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Speaker 14: improvement in mental health. People get outside more, they exercise more.
33:09
Speaker 14: Those are all great things. It's also going to improve
33:11
Speaker 14: property value and so people, you know, these trees are
33:15
Speaker 14: going to reach into the neighborhoods of the West Side
33:17
Speaker 14: and also the East End, so not just downtown around businesses,
33:21
Speaker 14: or not just along the boulevard. We all think of
33:22
Speaker 14: our boulevard which is so pretty, and with the Capital
33:25
Speaker 14: Connector project, these trees will be kind of a crown
33:28
Speaker 14: jewel of that. But they're also going to have economic
33:32
Speaker 14: impact throughout the city and also a conservation impact. You know,
33:36
Speaker 14: we live in a very biodiverse region here in Charleston,
33:39
Speaker 14: which people don't really realize. But these trees are going
33:42
Speaker 14: to add to conservation efforts and they're going to increase
33:45
Speaker 14: our biodiversity.
33:47
Speaker 4: You know, you talk about the beautification aspect of it.
33:50
Speaker 4: I've interviewed several people from the City of Charleston that
33:52
Speaker 4: have talked about the amount of people that are choosing
33:56
Speaker 4: downtown living because it goes in cycles. You know, years ago,
33:59
Speaker 4: everybody wanted to live in the suburbs, and a lot
34:01
Speaker 4: of people still do, but especially with younger people, Margaret,
34:04
Speaker 4: we see that they want to live in an area
34:07
Speaker 4: that is walkable. Many of them don't have cars, you know,
34:11
Speaker 4: they bicycle, or they walk or public transportation or whatever.
34:15
Speaker 4: The trees are a big part of bringing those people in.
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Speaker 14: Oh yeah, they sure are. They sure are. And I
34:21
Speaker 14: think that when you see a city that's planned well
34:24
Speaker 14: and that has the urban canopy, the you know, many
34:27
Speaker 14: of the trees are going to be flowering, it's going
34:31
Speaker 14: to bring people. You know, if you build it, they
34:33
Speaker 14: will come. And if certainly, if you're someone that lives downtown,
34:36
Speaker 14: you're going to have a direct a direct impact from
34:39
Speaker 14: those trees. It's going to be really fabulous. And one
34:43
Speaker 14: of the things that's great about it too is that
34:46
Speaker 14: one of the things I've been involved with or is
34:48
Speaker 14: helping build some community engagement around it, like what we're
34:52
Speaker 14: doing today talking about it, but we also have a
34:54
Speaker 14: lot of free events this week to celebrate the.
34:57
Speaker 4: Trees we'll talk about.
34:58
Speaker 14: So today is Earth Day, by the way, so it's
35:02
Speaker 14: a great day for us to be talking about this.
35:03
Speaker 14: And the library's got a little reading program this morning
35:06
Speaker 14: for kids. But also tomorrow we have Chris Higgins, our
35:11
Speaker 14: city arborist, and he is leading a walk at spring
35:14
Speaker 14: Hill Cemetery and he's going to be talking about the
35:18
Speaker 14: trees and talking about what's up there in the cemetery.
35:20
Speaker 14: And that's tomorrow night at six thirty. And then on Friday,
35:25
Speaker 14: which is Arbor Day, the mayor is going to be
35:28
Speaker 14: planting a tree at Piedmont Elementary along with the Municipal
35:31
Speaker 14: Beautification Commission, So that's going to be one of the
35:35
Speaker 14: trees from the canopy. And we also are doing a
35:39
Speaker 14: free water color class with Beth Laughlin who is a
35:42
Speaker 14: local artist. That one you have to sign up for
35:44
Speaker 14: with the library. And then on Saturday, we have a
35:48
Speaker 14: whole slate of events at Capital Market from one to
35:51
Speaker 14: three and everything is free. The West Virginia State University
35:55
Speaker 14: Extension Office is going to be there with cookies can
35:57
Speaker 14: decorate cookies shaped like trees. Our city Director of Public Art,
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Speaker 14: Jeff Pearson, is going to be leading an arts project
36:07
Speaker 14: people can contribute and then he's going to build something
36:09
Speaker 14: out of everybody's contributions. No art skills required, should be allot.
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Speaker 4: It's important to put that out there for people like me.
36:16
Speaker 14: For some more than others.
36:17
Speaker 10: Right.
36:19
Speaker 14: And then also our garden Club is going to be
36:22
Speaker 14: doing a project with kids with seeds and they're going
36:24
Speaker 14: to build little miniature greenhouses and be able to take
36:27
Speaker 14: those home and you know, kind of start to understand
36:30
Speaker 14: how a seed grows into something.
36:32
Speaker 4: Well, we'll go over all these things again a minute.
36:35
Speaker 4: But for people that don't know your background, Margaret, I
36:37
Speaker 4: didn't do a very good job of introducing you. Just
36:39
Speaker 4: tell us how to tell us about your involvement.
36:41
Speaker 10: In all this.
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Speaker 14: So I am a part of the canag Garden Club,
36:44
Speaker 14: which is part of West Virginia's only chapter of the
36:48
Speaker 14: Garden Club of America. And so our garden Club, of
36:51
Speaker 14: course does a lot of gardening, but one of our
36:54
Speaker 14: big things we do is community projects. You know, we
36:58
Speaker 14: like to get a involved with how our landscape can
37:03
Speaker 14: improve the health and wellbeing of our community. And that's
37:07
Speaker 14: something I'm really passionate about. Don't ask me about my
37:10
Speaker 14: green thumb, but you know, talk to you could be passionate.
37:13
Speaker 4: About it without having all the skills.
37:14
Speaker 10: It's okay.
37:15
Speaker 4: I mean, look, I'm the world's biggest music fan, but
37:17
Speaker 4: don't ask me to play guitar.
37:18
Speaker 14: You know exactly you get it. So, you know, one
37:21
Speaker 14: of the things we've done are the flowering boxes on
37:24
Speaker 14: the garages. I don't know if you've seen those on
37:26
Speaker 14: the City Garage downtown, and we've done some great things
37:28
Speaker 14: in Rufner Park and on the carriage trail so around
37:32
Speaker 14: the city and now we have been involved in this
37:35
Speaker 14: project with providing along with the city. We've partnered with
37:38
Speaker 14: the city and the library and some others to provide
37:41
Speaker 14: this programming to celebrate the trees and educate about the
37:44
Speaker 14: trees and then also actually our garden club. Just on Monday,
37:48
Speaker 14: hot off the press, we have won a pretty prestigious
37:52
Speaker 14: award from the Garden Club of America. We applied along
37:55
Speaker 14: with garden clubs throughout the country and commuted for the
38:00
Speaker 14: Founder's Fund Award, and we were one of the finalists
38:04
Speaker 14: down against a garden club in New Orleans and one
38:07
Speaker 14: in Florida, and at the national meeting in New York
38:11
Speaker 14: City on Monday, our garden Club was received the awards.
38:16
Speaker 14: So that gives us forty thousand dollars to put toward
38:19
Speaker 14: the trees here. So we are super proud about that.
38:22
Speaker 4: That's something really that the city of Charleston in the
38:24
Speaker 4: surrounded area should really really be proud of.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, we are.
38:27
Speaker 4: I mean, you go against New Orleans and I have
38:30
Speaker 4: never you know, full disclosure, I've never been to New Orleans,
38:33
Speaker 4: but I've certainly seen enough of it either on television
38:35
Speaker 4: or whatever to know that it's known for it flowers Florida.
38:38
Speaker 4: It's Florida, Okay. So to get that award with that
38:42
Speaker 4: kind of competition, that's pretty good stuff.
38:44
Speaker 14: It's pretty amazing. It's a real achievement. It was a
38:47
Speaker 14: lot of work, and you know, people had to come
38:50
Speaker 14: and visit and interview people here locally. They walked to
38:53
Speaker 14: our city streets. They really looked very closely at what
38:56
Speaker 14: we're doing. And what it says is that they believe
38:59
Speaker 14: in what we're doing, which is really amazing. And you know,
39:03
Speaker 14: another thing I want to add about the projects the
39:05
Speaker 14: events we have is on Monday, on the twenty seventh,
39:08
Speaker 14: we have someone coming in. His name is Mark Biscano
39:11
Speaker 14: and he is one of the nation's leading experts in
39:14
Speaker 14: urban forestry and he is for the last twenty years
39:19
Speaker 14: has been intimately involved and attached to the Cherry Tree
39:23
Speaker 14: Blossom Festival in Washington, d C. And so he's going
39:27
Speaker 14: to be giving us a free lecture. He's a real
39:29
Speaker 14: gat for us. He also believes in what we're doing
39:33
Speaker 14: and he's going to be giving a lecture at the
39:35
Speaker 14: planetarium at the Clay Center on Monday, and he'll be
39:38
Speaker 14: talking to us about you know, what an urban canopy
39:41
Speaker 14: can do for a community. You asked about that. If
39:43
Speaker 14: you want to know more, you should go. But also
39:47
Speaker 14: with his attachment to the cherry blossom festival, he's going
39:50
Speaker 14: to give us an idea of what our city can become.
39:53
Speaker 14: You know, maybe we will have a festival like that
39:56
Speaker 14: in Win many years.
39:57
Speaker 4: Why not? Yeah, I mean you mentioned that one in DC.
39:59
Speaker 4: I mean I gues friends that live in DC and
40:01
Speaker 4: I'm basically the whole town. The only thing that can
40:03
Speaker 4: make DC stopping its tracks is the cherry Blossom Festival.
40:06
Speaker 4: What it happens there, and cherry blossoms are great and
40:08
Speaker 4: a lot of cities around America I do that as well.
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Speaker 4: That's where can people learn I know you've given a
40:13
Speaker 4: lot of information here, but is there a single place
40:15
Speaker 4: where people can learn more about all or single two
40:17
Speaker 4: or three places where people can learn more.
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Speaker 9: About all these?
40:18
Speaker 2: Yeah?
40:19
Speaker 14: Thanks for asking. The best place to go is social media.
40:23
Speaker 14: Check out City of Charleston social media page. It's all
40:26
Speaker 14: on there. All the events are on there. And also
40:29
Speaker 14: if you have a question, you can just email me
40:31
Speaker 14: at kanaw gc at gmail dot com and that information
40:35
Speaker 14: is on the city social too. That email address, so
40:37
Speaker 14: you could just send me an email.
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Speaker 4: Margaret, It's always a pleasure to have you on the
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Speaker 9: The video was.
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Speaker 4: Released yesterday, I know, folks at WCHS Television release with
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Speaker 4: permission from the family. I'd seen it several because it's
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Speaker 4: had actually seen it a few days earlier. So the
47:23
Speaker 4: story goes back to forty five year old John Lucas
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Speaker 4: of Clendon And being struck and killed by a Canawha
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Speaker 4: County Emergency Ambulance Authority ambulance around the Tutors in Elkview
47:34
Speaker 4: at around two am last Thursday. Now, there was a
47:37
Speaker 4: press event held yesterday and Sean Snuffer, who was the
47:41
Speaker 4: Chief Deputy with the Canawa County Sheriff's Department, was there
47:44
Speaker 4: along with prosecuting an attorney deb Rusnick, members of her staff,
47:49
Speaker 4: and I'm going to make a statement here and I
47:52
Speaker 4: do want I'm asking you to just bear with me
47:54
Speaker 4: when I make this statement. A rare move of seriousness
47:59
Speaker 4: on my behalf because I laugh about everything. I mean,
48:02
Speaker 4: I'm the guy that's got cancer that's making fun of it. Okay.
48:07
Speaker 4: I thought the Canawa County Sheriff's Office and the office
48:11
Speaker 4: of deb Rusnick handled the thing perfectly because it is
48:17
Speaker 4: an ongoing investigation and despite the keyboard commandos all demanding justice,
48:28
Speaker 4: that's what we all want. It is an ongoing investigation
48:35
Speaker 4: and your threats of rallying the troops online are not helping.
48:43
Speaker 4: It is a tragedy all around what happened. But I
48:47
Speaker 4: would say let the professionals do their jobs and to
48:53
Speaker 4: continue the investigation. And it does appear as prosecutor deb
49:00
Speaker 4: Usnik said that what was initially thought to have happened
49:08
Speaker 4: on how the entire thing played out, there have been inconsistencies,
49:13
Speaker 4: and she and the others at the presser yesterday addressed
49:18
Speaker 4: that they will get to the bottom of it. Let
49:23
Speaker 4: them do their jobs. My heart bleeds for the family
49:29
Speaker 4: and others associated with mister Lucas. I cannot possibly imagine
49:35
Speaker 4: what they are going through right now. But I will
49:38
Speaker 4: say this, if that were a member of my family,
49:44
Speaker 4: my immediate circle, that I wouldn't appreciate all of the
49:50
Speaker 4: Facebook vigilanteism. And don't get me started on people with
49:57
Speaker 4: the whole say their Name's movement. As far as the
50:01
Speaker 4: ambulance drivers go, you are only hurting the investigation by
50:07
Speaker 4: doing that. As well intended as it may be, my
50:11
Speaker 4: social media feed was filled up with it yesterday. You
50:14
Speaker 4: are hurting the investigation by doing that. And by the way,
50:18
Speaker 4: making threats, as Deb Rusnick pointed out, you making threats
50:22
Speaker 4: against people online is a crime instead of West Virginia.
50:25
Speaker 4: So when you say, whoever these drivers are, we are
50:29
Speaker 4: going after them, guess what? You just committed a crime?
50:33
Speaker 4: All right, Let the investigation play out and at that time,
50:40
Speaker 4: if you're not happy with it, then make your voice known.
50:43
Speaker 4: But now is not the time. As I said, my
50:45
Speaker 4: heart bleeds for mister Lucas and his family, But what
50:50
Speaker 4: I have seen on social media here in Kanawa County
50:54
Speaker 4: over the last twenty four hours is not helping. It's disgusting,
50:59
Speaker 4: and it's not helping at all. Let the investigation continue
51:04
Speaker 4: and the charges are filed not filed. Whatever, we'll find
51:08
Speaker 4: out later. Just cool down a little bit.
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Speaker 1: TJ.
51:13
Speaker 6: Meadows coming up with talk line. Ours is a country
51:16
Speaker 6: of laws. It is not a country of street justice, vigilanteism, threats.
51:22
Speaker 6: As you talked about, everyone in this country enjoys a
51:27
Speaker 6: presumption of innocence. That is the heart of the American system.
51:33
Speaker 6: They're on it, they're investigating, they'll review it. Yes, the
51:36
Speaker 6: video is damning well, yes, looking at the video, some
51:41
Speaker 6: other decisions potentially could have been made.
51:44
Speaker 4: I'm not going to say one way or the other
51:45
Speaker 4: because you know what, Dave, I wasn't there and you're
51:48
Speaker 4: not part of the investigation. I'm not part of the investigator.
51:50
Speaker 4: Social media. Let it play out and trust in the system,
51:55
Speaker 4: and if it doesn't play out, then address it. But
51:59
Speaker 4: the investor gation is being greatly hindered in Kinawk County
52:02
Speaker 4: right now by social media. As a life in general
52:05
Speaker 4: is greatly hindered by social media.
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Speaker 6: But that's just me what you got on the show today,
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Speaker 6: Jeff Jenkins will recap that story. Coming up with the
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Speaker 7: Man.
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Speaker 6: They went after it last night, didn't they. What does
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