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Prohibition: Drunken Anti-Drinking Songs - A Chat with Liam & Cannon · San Joaquin Sound

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When we're drunk, we're assholes, we're shitty,
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we're messy, and we fiend for substances, you
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know? And that's the point of the music, is we
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write from that kind of part of our body, our
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brains, that is prohibition, you know? That's
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the prohibition mindset, like we call it. You
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should be sad that you even got drunk in the
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first place, is what prohibition should tell
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you. And that's where kind of like, we're very
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influenced by... Country music. Yeah, that's
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where the country roots really dig deep. In some
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of my songs, I have casually mentioned the fact
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that I like to drink beer. This little song is
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more to the point. You're listening to the San
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Joaquin Sound Podcast, the podcast about music
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in Bakersfield and the surrounding San Joaquin
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Valley. I'm your host, AJ Rodriguez. For this
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episode, I interviewed Liam and Cannon from Prohibition.
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They are a power violence band that's here to
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deliver a drunken but anti -drinking message.
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I'm here in East Bakersfield with the band Prohibition.
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Yo, it's Cannon. I do bass and I also do vocals
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and I write lyrics. I'm Liam. I do vocals. I've
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written some shit, maybe most of the stuff. That's
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actually a lie. I've written a lot. I've written
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a lot of the stuff. With Drake, of course. It's
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been a duo. Oh, that's right. It's been a duo
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thing. Yeah, Drake and Liam kind of share like
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one brain cell together. Oh, shit. Also, Drake's
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a vocalist, but he's not here. Rest in peace.
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Yeah, we're missing Drake and Hector on this
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episode. Drake's not here because, you know,
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he's got problems. He's not perfect. But, you
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know, God didn't make nobody perfect. And that's
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what happens. Same with Hector. So we always
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start back at the beginning. So let's talk about
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growing up in Bakersfield. What was growing up
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in Bakersfield like for you? Awesome. Well, OK,
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you know, as a kid. And I feel like a lot of
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people relate to this growing up. You were like,
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oh, this sucks, bro. Like, I wish I was in L
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.A. or New York. But as you grow up, you realize
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that sucks. And you don't want to be in one of
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those cities. Bakersfield's awesome. You know,
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home of the country sound. All the greats have
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been here. And it's also home to a lot of great
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hardcore and punk acts. Yeah, I guess just growing
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up, it felt more like a small town. Now that
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I'm older, I realize it's not that small. That
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might be due to the influx of people from Vegas
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and L .A. moving in, but it's nice. It's awesome.
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I didn't grow up here at all. I'm from Colorado.
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I moved from Colorado to L .A., and I lived in
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Venice Beach for a number of years. I think I
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moved to Venice Beach when I was eight or something
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like that, maybe nine. But I moved to Venice
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and then I remember moving. I moved with my sister.
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I was living with my mom before. I moved in with
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my sister who was here because she was in the
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fucking Navy. The most years I remember, I was
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like 16 when I moved here. And at the time I
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was like, yeah, this is a shithole. I lived in
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LA. It was way cooler. Way more stuff to do.
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And then I got to the scene. I met our drummer,
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Drake, and I was hanging around Jerry's a lot.
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And I think Mario from God looked at me and he
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went. you're Bakersfield as fuck and then that's
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when I understood Bakersfield and I realized
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that maybe this town maybe this town has exactly
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what I need because I love getting fucked up
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every day and I love the people here that are
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fucked up and this town is actually insanely
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sick compared to LA because you can almost you
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feel like you know everyone but at the same time
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you don't Yeah, it also feels more genuine. LA
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is full of wannabes. People tell it how it is
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here, like Mario and a lot of the older fools
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who I've hung out with that are in the scene
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and sick. For sure. So growing up, what type
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of music were you listening to and what type
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of music were your parents having you listen
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to? My dad has always kind of been like a punker
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kind of guy. So, you know, I grew up around...
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All of the classics and then also some of the
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more distasteful stuff like Anal Cunt and Cancer
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Slug. But so he kind of brought me into the harder
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aspect as well as when I was younger, he introduced
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me to things like Crystal Castles and the Mountain
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Goats. So very eclectic. And then my mom was
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more into. I guess like dance or, uh, eighties
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goth and whatnot, like Depeche mode and Susie
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and the Banshees. But, um, so yeah, I, I guess
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I grew up around a very broad variety. Uh, and
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then I kind of always have been into like more
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of a, I guess, indie rock sound or alternative
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sound. And I think that's what brought me into
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the DIY aspect of punk and, you know, grind and
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all that. There's a certain, although all of
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the sounds may be different, there is a community
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around the DIY environment. And I think that's
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what brought me here. Yeah, DIY is my favorite
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thing for sure. Fuck, mine sounds way more lame.
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than cannons. Um, I grew up in Colorado, so,
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you know, most of the time when my mom or sister
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was on the radio, it was at the time country
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hits like, um, earliest I can remember is like
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Blake Shelton. My sister loved Florida Georgia
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line. And then, you know, I, I, I started riding
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with my brother a little bit more as a kid. He'd
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pick up chicks with like six year old me or something
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like that. Awesome. and uh he had he'd go to
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the fair and just have me sit in the front seat
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and just call shotgun even though damn sure wasn't
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supposed to be in that front seat and um he he
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had limp biscuits the chocolate starfish on cd
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and the the earliest like memories was just like
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listening to that and i was like what is this
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this is great and then you know he was like the
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bad kid and i was like dude i want to be like
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this fool this fool's sick And then my mom listening
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to, which I don't listen to at all, she strictly
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listened to like Italian slop, whatever Italian
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music she was listening to. I don't understand
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it. I don't know what it is. Did we say that
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on the podcast? Slop? Italian slop. I'm Italian.
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I'm first generation Italian. It's Italian slop.
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I don't know what else to call it. Traditional
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Italian music. But it's a bullshit. Pretty much.
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If I don't understand it, I'll call it bullshit.
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And she would listen to that and then... I don't
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know. I moved to LA and I got into the more underground
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scene at the time. Being in LA, I feel like the
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music scene out there is so crazy that you almost
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get stuff before people even know it. Like I
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was listening to a lot of weird shit that then
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became popular amongst my friends here in Bakersfield.
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And I was like, oh, you don't know that? You
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don't know that guy? I've been listening to him
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when I was in LA. Just like some weird bullshit.
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I don't know any examples here. Like early Uno
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the Activist and shit like that. Like early Shortline
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Mafia and other crazy just deep cut normal hip
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hop stuff that would seem like normies would
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listen to but just doesn't have the most fans
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behind it. I think that's pretty much it. And
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then I went back to my country roots and now
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I listen to that shit. What's the best? Traditional.
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It's Bakersfield. Yeah, you've lived in Bakersfield
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a while, and then I was like, you know what?
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Buck Owens is the shit. Merle Haggard is the
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shit. Let's start listening to this again. These
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guys rule. Do you remember your earliest concerts?
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That's a good one. I think when I was like three
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years old. So, you know, Bright House? Before
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they became Spectrum. oh yeah yeah so it used
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to be bright house and they used to have like
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a a thing at a park i forget maybe like oh yeah
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the amphitheater thing yeah yeah it would like
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rosedale or something i forget but yeah i think
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it's off it's off stockdale i want to say yeah
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i i think it was neon trees were playing and
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so my dad took me to see neon trees when i was
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a youngin And that was awesome because they did
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that shit for free and that was cool. That's
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cool. We need to bring that back, by the way.
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Shout out Bright House. Fuck Spectrum. Yeah,
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let the coolest communications company bring
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back free concerts and we'll all subscribe to
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your cable 100%, not lying. I would also my soul
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to Bright House if they do that. But other than
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that, I don't remember too much. And then I think
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maybe when I was... I was obsessed with Alex
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G. Alex G's the shit though. Yeah. And I was
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like 14 years old. And so my dad was like, yo,
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let's go to Jerry's. Let's get you prepared for
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a concert. Alex G played at Jerry's? No, no,
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no. I was about to lose it. It was in LA at the
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Echo Theater. Yeah. I think it's the Echo Theater
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or like Echoplex or something like that. Yeah.
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I've seen a couple shows at the Echo. It's a
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nice theater. People just call it the Echo. The
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Echo. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. In LA at the Echo,
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Alex G was playing. And so my dad was like, yo,
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let's pull up to Jerry's Pizza, you know, the
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Bakersfield staple, and watch these bands. And
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it was like some psychobilly, rockabilly shit.
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Fuck rockabilly. No, it was, you know, as...
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As lame as people want to say it is, you know,
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slapping the stand -up bass and shit, that's
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kind of awesome. Early rockabilly is way cooler
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than any other rockabilly. Yeah, it was underground
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rockabilly, bro. You want to understand. Even
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though it wasn't the same environment, it was
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cool. I got a taste of how, you know, live music
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is. And then, yeah, I saw Alex G. And then slightly
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before I got... more into the scene i also saw
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ween in la with my dad i dragged my dad everywhere
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in la ween was one was one of the best bands
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i've ever seen live nice my earliest thinking
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back to like the earliest i can barely remember
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it i think it was in colorado still it was florida
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georgia line i'm pretty sure it's awesome at
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um our our county fair and i remember just climbing
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like cattle gates trying to see like the view
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because I could barely see shit from all the
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towering people above me. And so I climbed some
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cattle gates, and I was looking at it, and I
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was like, this is great. They had the flashing
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lights and everything, and I think the second
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most memorable since Canon named a couple, I
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think I saw, I think the headliner was Little
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Tracy at the time, which is terrible now, now
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saying that. You love Tracy, come on. I do. I
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do love Tracy, but I like his earlier psychedelic
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phase where he talked about cool shit. Where
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he was more like a Lil B type of guy. Yeah, when
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Little Tracy was like Lil B and he hated the
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government and he basically sang slam poetry,
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that shit was cool. But I think he was playing
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and I think Uno opened for him or was Uno the
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activist opened for him or was second. And that
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show, that was like the first, the show I can
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really remember. and at that show I was like
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this is sick because I think it was in whatever
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they call I think they still call it a mosh pit
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even though it's really not but you know people
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are just jumping around and you can barely stand
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because there's fools jumping on you and stuff
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like that but I think that's the most memorable
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those are the two shows that I would say were
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like my first the first one doesn't really count
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because I can barely remember it but it's still
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technically the one that I saw first, Florida
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Georgia Line. They were sick. From what I can
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remember, it was mesmerizing. I still remember
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it, and I was probably like seven years old.
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It was a cool show. It's a good memory. Yeah,
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no, it was sick. My sister and her boyfriend
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at the time took me, and it was just, at the
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time, it was like my mom didn't want me to go.
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And I remember sitting there and being like,
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hell yeah, fuck you, mom. We're doing this. And
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it wasn't even like some punk shit. It was just
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like a corny country band. It was hella sick.
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This is slightly off topic, but you guys know
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that screenshot of Kylie Jenner and what's his
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name from Blink -182, the drummer? Travis Barker.
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You know, when they commented, I want a mosh.
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That's how being at the little Tracy show felt.
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Exactly. That's what it reminds me of. Do you
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remember a moment or something? Inspiration that
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made you decide when you wanted to make your
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own music. Yes, it was. This is fucked up to
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say without him here. For me, I know Ken's probably
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got a deeper cut than I do. But it was... Shit,
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sorry Drake. It was a day Drake and now his ex
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-girlfriend, I'll say her name, her name is Matilda.
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It was a day they were fighting. You don't need
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to cut that, fuck it. Her name's Matilda and
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Drake used to date her. Was it Pop -Off Deathbed?
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Yeah, it was a time me and Cannon, Cannon was
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playing the acoustic and they were fighting.
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And I started doing like, I don't know, semi
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-country vocal, semi -indie, I don't know what
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you would call it, like folk. It was almost like
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folk punk. Yeah, it was almost like folk punk,
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but they were fighting about, I think it was
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Drake spilling something on his bed sheet. and
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i was just canon was strumming some beautiful
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shit and i was like because i squirt on sheets
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when you're not home i spilled it all over your
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bed and this is me stealing an alex g um melody
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but i said something along the sorts and then
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i was like canon we should keep doing this i
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was like we should keep just making bullshit
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music let me cut in real quick uh it's on bandcamp
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it's called pop off deathbed and it's still up
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it's still up you can go listen to it now it's
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pretty much when i decided i was like you know
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what maybe i should because i've always seen
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people in bands i've always seen canon and pump
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fake and and the local jerry's performers who
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i barely know but and you know the fools from
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god who i've already mentioned um i've already
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mentioned mario but i was like at that point
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i was like i want to be like them you know i
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want to i want to write my own stuff that's meaningful
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and throw it on stage and see what people think
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about it because at the end of the day that's
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kind of what everyone's doing is throwing it
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together either meaningful shit or dismeaningful
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shit and seeing what other people think yeah
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When I started experimenting with music was,
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this is going to sound lame as hell. Bro, wait,
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I'm lying. Wait, I'm fucking lying. I made rap
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stuff before Prohibition. Okay, tell us about
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that real quick. Fuck, it was so bad. It's trash.
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Is it on SoundCloud or is it buried? I think
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I have an audio file and I also think my buddy
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has an audio file posted on SoundCloud right
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now. Um, I was best friends at the time when
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I lived in LA, I think I was 15 or 14. My buddy
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was, um, he, he was certified. I don't know.
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You take classes in LA or some shit and you can
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get certified on pro tools. So it makes you look
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better in your resume, but he used pro tools
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and he would, he would get artists to come to
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his house and he would make beats and then mix
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and master their, their, their track. And, um,
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I would get plastered at his house because he
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lived in a very nice house with a walk -in closet
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for a bar. And I would just grab whatever bottle
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I felt like that day and just get wasted. And
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one day, I have a video of it in my phone. One
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day, I got really drunk. And my buddy's girlfriend
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at the time filmed me. And I was just rapping
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in his studio. And I think at the time, we called
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it... My name was like smoothie B because it
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was really funny and ignorant. It was ignorant
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is what it was. It was straight ignorant because
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at the time he had a sneaky link come and she,
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and he was rich. So she wanted, it was kind of
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the situation where, and then, so we made tracks
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and I have them, I might have them somewhere
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in my audio files, but it was just generic LA
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rap shit where I was making like generic tracks,
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um, rapping about nonsensical stuff. and it was
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pretty, it was all right. I would say looking
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back at it now, it's cringe, but at the time,
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it was good. At the time, I was like, this is
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some shit, but that was the first time I've ever
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tried to create something, and that is the last
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time I'll ever try to create rap. I think Liam
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has me beat, but so when I first started doing
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music, it was super lame. I was heavily into,
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are you familiar with Macintosh Plus? plus aj
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no so i was super into is this your digital damnation
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era how is this before how do you know about
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that are you not dude he fucking nard ward how
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do you know about that Holy shit. I had to do
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research for the episode. I had to find something.
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No, no, no. How do you deal with that? Have you
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heard any of those tracks? Do you mean Elevator
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or Portrait? Oh, my God. I'm so glad I'm such
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a deep cut that he couldn't nard war my ass.
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Yeah, I had nothing for you. I'm not going to
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lie. If he would have pulled up Smoothie B, like
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the full track list, I would have left my own
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house. I would have left my own house. That would
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have been it. Yeah, Digital Damnation. I'm talking
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even prior to that bullshit. But I was super
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into Vaporwave, Macintosh Plus and all that.
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And so I was like 12, maybe 11, 12, 13. And I
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downloaded Audacity and I just was trying to
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sample a bunch of old shit, trying to make it
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sound like Vaporwave. one of the ones that i
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actually still like to this day i still have
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the file is la connection all i did was slow
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it down and add reverb which by the way shout
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out vaporwave that is the predecessor to slow
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to reverb fuck all you tiktok heads so i was
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doing that and then digital animation came about
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because i've always kind of been into electronic
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music especially like electro punk and just shit
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like that and obviously indie so Digital Damnation
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was a project where I was trying to do indie
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music, but I didn't know how to play anything.
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So I would load up FL Studio, the trial version,
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and try to make a song without saving it or anything.
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Yeah, that's my beginning was electronic, indie,
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and Vaporwave when I was like 13. And then you
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moved on to Coma Erotica. Bangers. That's just
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like DJ shit. Bangers, though. Thank you, bro.
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Bangers, bangers, bangers. But that's just like
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mashups or just like, it's just electronic dance
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music. Yeah. Digital Damnation actually had my
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vocals on it, but no one will ever hear that.
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I'm on the hunt now. I'm going to look for it.
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You're also in Twin Barbecue, which is an indie
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band that sounds nothing at all like Prohibition.
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Yeah. It is. Yeah, exactly. You know, I guess
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I got like a rough side and a soft side, you
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know. You know what song I liked that I listened
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to that you made? Save for the price tag. How
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do you have that? What is safe for the price
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tag? I'm going to be honest. That sounds crazy.
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That sounds good. I found it on your SoundCloud
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called Canon Radio. That's on my solo SoundCloud.
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That was really good. Thank you. Hey, thank you.
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I just upload like demos. That was like before
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Twin Barbecue was super serious, and I was going
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by Cattlehead, which I might bring that back.
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RIP Cattlehead. I remember that. He's going to
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come back, bro. Don't worry. Yeah, that was when
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I was still kind of doing it on my own. And it's
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still up. Yeah, Canon Radio on SoundCloud. I
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was going to ask about pump fake and stuff. Do
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a little pump fake history. But since Drake's
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not here, I don't know if it's... I mean, I think
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from Canon you'll get most of it. But I've also
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been behind. I've probably been at 90 % of every
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pump fake practice because I lived with the guy.
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Yeah, to be honest, I didn't write shit. I wrote
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very few for Pump Fake. From what I've seen,
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Drake's written 90 % of everything. That's kind
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of Drake's passion project. Yeah, that's why
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I thought we maybe don't need to mention it too
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much because it's his thing. Dude, I was going
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to talk about Bring My Shit Back. Oh, I think...
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That song is so good. Yeah, no, I think I remember
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Bring My Shit Back. I think one of his homies
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didn't steal from him, but stole from another
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homie, and he got very pissed off just from the
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principle. I think that's the best. Like, one
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of the best songs that I've heard from Bakersfield.
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About that song, I was... super into chat pile
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all the time are you familiar so chat pile has
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a song just like they're kind of like a noise
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rock uh industrial hardcore group i guess i don't
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know buzzword buzzword but um they have a song
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about homeless in you know the u .s and how it's
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fucked up they don't have anything and i was
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super inspired by that because you know that's
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a big deal especially in california and so i
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was like yo drake would you write a song about
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like You know, the problems homeless people face.
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And he's all, well, when I was younger, actually,
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a homeless person, or not just a homeless person.
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Let me take that back. A tweaker stole my skateboard
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and all the shit. See, I'm totally wrong. I'm
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totally wrong about that. That's probably definitely
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the origin story. It is. So I wanted to write
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like a meaningful song. And Drake, it has meaning,
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but it was the opposite direction. Drake was
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like, well, guess what? A fucking tweaker took
22:54
all my shit when I was in high school. So fuck
22:57
him. And that's where Bring My Shit Back came
22:59
from. It's a relatable song because I feel like
23:02
everyone's had stuff stolen from them. So your
23:06
band Prohibition, how did that start? Honestly,
23:09
it started. With what we said earlier was pop
23:13
-off deathbed. Oh, my bad. We would do those
23:17
songs, like I said, about just talking. 90 %
23:22
of it was talking shit about Drake. Because talking
23:24
shit about Drake at the time was low -hanging
23:26
fruit. And it was just funny to shit on Drake
23:29
and his girlfriend at the time. Because, yeah,
23:32
we would just blow the fuck out of them. We would
23:33
just do that same shit that you can go listen
23:35
to it right now, a pop -off deathbed we did.
23:38
Dotbandcamp .com. Yeah, and we would do like,
23:41
there's there's dray i squirt on sheets i think
23:43
is one of the tracks there's one where it's like
23:45
i pee in public bushes or some bullshit like
23:48
that some of it wasn't entirely from drake some
23:51
of it was just stupid nonsensical edgy bullshit
23:55
like it was um registered registered offender
24:00
it was jerking off a heart park or something
24:03
no i think the whole point of the the whole point
24:05
of the thing was pissing i think we're pissing
24:07
drunk at heart park and that's how you can get
24:09
like you know if your dick's out in public you
24:11
can get sex offenders you know what i mean so
24:13
it was like that yeah most of it was just from
24:16
drake it was drunk at the time fighting and we
24:19
just kind of we were we were always drinking
24:22
and i'd grab the acoustic and me and lean would
24:25
be like let's write something right now we would
24:28
do it we'd always be drunk on pop off and we
24:31
i just recorded it off my uh my voice memos on
24:34
my phone yeah yeah and off pop off we'd always
24:36
be plastered on pop off when we wrote every single
24:39
shout out kenny for giving us the name pop off
24:42
deathbed he's actually on the first track on
24:45
the band camp kenny kenny's a sick fool who's
24:47
been in a couple punk bands who's the the drake's
24:51
exes um drake x's mom's like boyfriend or husband
24:55
or whatever it is now but he he's got a voice
24:58
to him and i just remember hearing he's just
25:01
got a fucked up voice really he's just sit there
25:03
and he's like he mumbles his whole sentences
25:06
but then he's mumbling this full sentence and
25:08
then he just goes i'm talking about like the
25:10
pop -off deathbed and then we all like look at
25:14
each other almost and we're like wow that's it
25:16
that's great that's what we're gonna call it
25:18
i almost i almost with I wish Prohibition was
25:20
called Pop Off Deathbed. I do, too, because it's
25:23
such a cool name. It's such a really good name.
25:25
But we made Pop Off Deathbed, and I recall one
25:28
time we were recording Pop Off Deathbed, but
25:31
I don't know who... It wasn't really... We weren't
25:35
doing lyrics at all. Or, no, Kenny was. I think
25:37
this is the first track on Pop Off Deathbed.
25:39
He was freestyling. Yeah, it was me on... Yeah,
25:43
in Pop Off Deathbed, I played... I think in the
25:47
credits it says The Cup. Because I think at that
25:50
time, I forget the act who was doing it, but
25:51
I saw it in like fucking middle school. Where
25:54
it's these guys, it might be like the Blue Man
25:56
Group or some bullshit like that. Where they
25:58
played music, but using household objects or
26:01
hitting household objects. Stomp. What? There's
26:05
this thing called stomp. Stomp clap? I think
26:07
it is stomp. They like hit trash cans and a bunch
26:11
of stuff. Yeah, exactly. I think it was stomp.
26:12
Because I was in a music class at one point and
26:15
they showed us that. it was kind of basically
26:17
that so i think canon was still on guitar i think
26:20
matilda was hitting two shoes together sorry
26:22
are you talking about the first track yeah yeah
26:25
i wasn't even on guitar i was hitting shit too
26:28
i have one because i was gonna say yeah i think
26:30
we were all doing stop i have the credits right
26:32
here canon was on the mug drake was on the counter
26:36
matilda was on the print The paintbrush. Liam,
26:41
you were hitting a sandal. Hell yeah. Haven was
26:45
hitting a bong, and Kenny was rapping. Yeah,
26:48
so that's where it really started. It was some
26:49
stomp -esque. Now, that's DIY. That's not where
26:53
it started. That was probably the end of Pop
26:55
-Off Deathbed. That was the first track. It was
26:57
the first track, but I think before that we were
27:01
doing, it's Squirt on Sheets and all that. Oh,
27:03
yeah. That was when we found the name. Yeah,
27:05
and then we brought everyone on top of it. I
27:08
think Matilda, too, was like, Like, you guys
27:10
fucking make music while me and my boyfriend
27:13
are fighting? And we were like, yeah, it's hilarious.
27:15
You need to listen. Shit's awesome. Because we
27:17
recorded all of it prior. And at that point,
27:21
that's when the first track is when Kenny gave
27:22
us the name. And then we were the villain that
27:24
we were. And we kept making the bullshit we made.
27:27
And then one time, we wanted to make Pop -Off
27:32
Deathbed without... We made Pop -Off Deathbed
27:34
without Drake and Matilda fighting. With no motive,
27:36
really. We were just like, hey, you want to make
27:38
music? Yeah. and drake looks at us and um at
27:41
the time in matilda's house the kenny played
27:45
in a band so there was drums there's a drum set
27:47
in one of the rooms and drake was like do you
27:49
mind if i play drums and we were like fuck no
27:52
play drums and it was like five in the morning
27:54
her mom was sleeping her her kenny was sleeping
27:57
were we drinking oh i think i was drunk because
28:00
to be honest i barely remember there because
28:02
yeah you were there i have no recollection you
28:04
played the acoustic Yeah, we were probably drunk.
28:07
Yeah, you played the acoustic. Drake played the
28:09
drums very fucking quiet because we were scared
28:11
of getting yelled at. And I was just singing
28:13
the most bullshit lyrics. And that's kind of
28:16
what I accredit Prohibition, when Prohibition
28:19
was born. That's when the whole plan came into
28:24
fruition. Even though Prohibition was made. seven,
28:29
eight, almost a year after. It was probably a
28:32
year after. Yeah, a year after we accredited.
28:34
Maybe six months, maybe. I don't know. Yeah,
28:37
we still accredit Prohibition to that because
28:39
if that never happened, we never would have realized
28:41
we had the dynamic trio that we do. Because honestly,
28:44
I think it was you, me, Drake had a conversation.
28:47
We were like, yo, what if we turn that little
28:50
bit about drinking? I think it was during Prohibition
28:54
practice at Justin's house, I think is when we
28:56
hit that. is when we hit that whole, hey, should
28:59
we do this? Well, prior to that, we were like,
29:03
we just had a conversation. We were hanging out
29:06
like normal. We were just kind of like, yo, what
29:08
if we turn this into a power violence slash grind
29:12
band? Yeah, at the time. We were like, yeah,
29:14
that's awesome. At the time, we had no idea what
29:17
we wanted to be, and then I think it was me or
29:19
someone else, but I think I was like, what is
29:22
no one doing? In Bakersfield, power violence
29:25
and grind band. Yeah, and at the time, it was
29:26
PV. And then I was like, I told Drake and everyone,
29:29
I was like, bro, I might rap. I might've rapped
29:31
in my past, but I have no fucking musical credentials.
29:36
Like I used to go to music school. I used to
29:38
go into a school that taught me French and we
29:40
would hit like music school first thing in the
29:42
morning. But other than that, which was decades
29:46
ago, I have no fucking clue what I'm doing. I
29:48
don't know when to, I know when to time in on
29:50
a beat, but not a band. And so the, the, the
29:53
consensus was. Power violence is being done in
29:56
Bakersfield. The other consensus was, what takes
29:59
the least amount of skill? Grind. So the first
30:02
part of Prohibition was, Liam, you don't get
30:07
lyrics, which I was totally fine with. It was
30:09
just you doing, just straight screaming into
30:13
the mic bullshit. And then Cannon will handle
30:16
the lyrical side of the whole band. No, you got
30:20
all the lyrics in. I was writing most of the
30:23
lyrics at the time. Yeah, you were like, uh run
30:25
in the store for me and then it was just me going
30:27
yeah And it was just me doing, like, not pig
30:31
squeals, but, you know, I don't want to scream
30:33
into this mic right now. You were kind of almost
30:34
hitting a pig squeal. Yeah, I was just doing
30:37
nonsensical vocals. We were almost mints core
30:40
in the beginning. Yeah. And, you know, we got
30:42
mad at some friends of ours. They were like,
30:45
fuck you guys, you're not a grind. We're like,
30:48
yeah, we are. But low key. Hitting the death
30:50
to false grind. We kind of were mints. But I
30:54
feel like we've kind of. gotten more comfortable.
30:56
We are straight PV now. There is no grind aspect.
31:00
We're more comfortable in the skin of power violence
31:02
now, I think. I've learned how to cut into a
31:07
band beat, and I've learned how to do PV vocals,
31:10
so now we've stepped our game up and gotten into
31:14
the realm of, in my opinion, decent PV. Yeah.
31:18
How can you describe power violence to people
31:20
that haven't heard of that before? Fucking...
31:24
very fast. What we do is very short songs, lots
31:28
of fucking feedback, noise. Um, I, in some cases,
31:34
you know, we try to do breakdowns as fast as
31:36
we can. Violent. I mean, it's power violence.
31:39
Sometimes we like to throw in the false violence
31:41
gimmick, like how we can not just kind of started
31:44
with the, with the breakdowns and stuff. Uh,
31:47
in the beginning was more so like that. And then
31:51
later, As we've kind of grown as a band, we've
31:55
gone the path of being fast as hell. Yeah, the
32:00
baseline of PV. Yeah. Fast. You know, we play
32:04
songs and, you know, when Luna's there from fucking
32:07
Spiral Blast, she always yells, play faster.
32:11
And that's basically PV in a nutshell. Play faster.
32:14
Shout out Luna. Shout out Zim. Your blast beats
32:16
can always be faster. Your vocals can always
32:19
be louder. You can always be nastier. Yeah, you
32:21
can always be fucking nastier. It's PV in a whole.
32:25
But yeah, how I would describe power violence
32:28
is fast, heavy. It doesn't have to be heavy,
32:31
but it has to be hard. Fast, hard, and obviously
32:36
violent. And I really respect a band, a power
32:42
violence band that has a message. I also respect
32:44
a band that does not have a message. I mean,
32:45
PV's also another... adjacent to grind you know
32:49
no matter how much you're gonna say you're not
32:50
grind if power violence is a step away they're
32:53
very similar grind i feel like is less strict
32:56
i feel like it's more ignorant and i feel like
32:59
it's more nasty i guess if that makes sense what
33:03
i was getting to is you know pv also unintelligible
33:07
you know i guess what you could say is i don't
33:09
know if this is accurate or not i might be an
33:11
idiot but power violence is more Power of violence
33:15
is to hardcore punk where grind is to metal.
33:21
I think is where the split goes. I'm not going
33:25
to disagree. I couldn't explain it better. But
33:28
honestly, same shit. Who cares? It's awesome.
33:31
It's all the same shit. It's just a different
33:33
day. One description, epic. So what does Prohibition
33:38
stand for? You talk about having messages in
33:40
songs. Prohibition, I think we all made a couple
33:43
songs. And I think we were deciding on a name
33:47
on Drake's couch in his dad's room when I lived
33:50
there at the time. And we were all deciding,
33:53
what should we call this? And everyone came up
33:57
with names. And then I remember looking up at
33:59
Drake and I go, Prohibition. Because at the time
34:02
we knew we were going to make... What we call
34:05
drunk violence is, you know, just drunk PV. Drunk
34:08
bullshit said into a PV band. And it's just the
34:16
normal 19 -whatever prohibition. They stopped
34:19
making alcohol. People still bootlegged it. People
34:23
still drank it at the time, I remember, in the
34:25
prohibition. They would make, they would sell
34:27
it at the general stores. These bags of grape...
34:31
grapes pretty much not bags of grapes but grape
34:33
juice and they would always have on the back
34:36
instructions on what not to do do not store them
34:40
in your cabinet in the darkest place in your
34:42
house do not leave them there for one to two
34:45
months or they will contain alcohol which was
34:48
just the instructions on how to make alcohol
34:50
because alcohol is banned so prohibition kind
34:55
of the name is just what we don't want you to
34:57
do and we don't want you to get belligerently
35:00
drunk and become an asshole yeah well it's like
35:03
you know you know the band insult no they're
35:06
awesome but they have they have us they have
35:08
a couple songs that are kind of just bullshit
35:10
and some songs that are meaningful and um or
35:15
as meaningful as they can get but with prohibition
35:18
it it it is ignorant and it is stupid and uh
35:23
we're drunk most of the time we make the songs
35:27
The thing about Prohibition, though, is that
35:30
it is anti -drinking, but not in a straight -edge
35:33
way. More in like... Don't fuck up your body.
35:37
Don't fuck up your life. Yeah, and when we play,
35:41
we always... It's fun for us to just get as drunk
35:44
as possible. Even now, we're super drunk just
35:47
because that's the way of Prohibition. And even
35:49
though the band is slowly killing us... It is
35:55
a message. We're living through the message.
35:59
Don't be like us. Don't be an alcoholic. Don't
36:02
be an asshole. Don't be a degenerate. Don't be
36:04
a junkie. And that's what prohibition is about.
36:07
But the point of view that we write all the songs
36:10
through is through this kind of counterpart we
36:14
all carry when we drink. And so when we're drunk,
36:19
we're assholes. We're shitty. We're messy. fiend
36:24
for substances you know and that's the point
36:29
of the music is we write from that kind of part
36:31
of our of our body our brains um That is prohibition,
36:37
you know. That's the prohibition mindset, like
36:39
we call it. The prohibition mindset is I shouldn't
36:43
be fucking drunk. It's not that entirely. Everyone
36:46
has their own prohibition mindset, don't get
36:48
me wrong. But my prohibition mindset is when
36:50
I do some drunk -ass bullshit and Taylor, Noah,
36:54
or whoever, one of the homies says, Yeah, and
36:58
says prohibition mindset. just tells me i'm very
37:02
fucked up and i probably shouldn't be doing the
37:04
shit that i'm doing and that's what it should
37:06
be banned we write the prohibition exactly it
37:10
should be banned but it shouldn't be banned but
37:11
that's kind of how we write the songs is through
37:14
this character that we all kind of embody that
37:17
is just a drunk asshole i remember one time it
37:21
was ohio the the drummer of pump fake since we
37:25
already got to that I was very much, we all have
37:28
numbers to our names. We have Prohibition 1,
37:30
me. Prohibition 2, Cannon. Prohibition 3, Drake.
37:35
Hector's Prohibition 4. But I was plastered on
37:40
Ohio. No, it wasn't Ohio's birthday. I'm bullshitting.
37:43
But Ohio was there. We were doing pump fake.
37:47
And he had a bottle of Kessler. And I got plastered.
37:50
And it was 12 o 'clock. My girlfriend's birthday
37:53
struck. I was so fucking drunk that I forgot
37:57
her birthday. Didn't wish her a happy birthday
38:00
when the clock struck 12. Didn't wish her birthday
38:03
when the clock struck 3 in the morning. I fell
38:05
asleep and she was pissed off. And that's just
38:09
prohibition in a nutshell. Don't be me. Don't
38:12
be an asshole. Don't forget the shit that you're
38:15
not supposed to forget. You know what I mean?
38:16
Don't fuck up. is the whole mindset of prohibition
38:20
is you shouldn't be drunk and fuck up being drunk
38:23
is not an excuse for you to be an asshole which
38:26
is an unwritten song that we have uh being drunk
38:29
is an excuse is something we should drop but
38:31
haven't yeah it's like how you mentioned straight
38:35
edge straight edge is people who don't drink
38:38
telling people who drink to not drink But prohibition
38:42
is more like people who drink telling people,
38:45
don't be like me, don't drink. And almost whenever
38:49
you think of drinking songs, you might think
38:53
of like a party song about getting drunk or having
38:56
fun with your friends. This is not that. This
38:59
might be a drinking song, but it is sad. There's
39:05
violence. There's anger. It's really almost like...
39:09
Look at this. Don't do this. You should be sad
39:12
that you even got drunk in the first place is
39:14
what prohibition should tell you. And that's
39:17
where kind of like we're very influenced by country
39:20
music. Yeah, that's where the country roots really
39:23
dig deep. Especially like I'm drinking double
39:25
and I've got this drinking thing, you know? No,
39:28
it's... What is it? I'm drinking double, she's
39:35
acting single. Great country song. Those two
39:38
songs are... There's so much good country bullshit.
39:42
Even like David Allen Coe, Jack Daniels, If You
39:45
Please. That's a great influence for the kind
39:48
of music we write. There's this Bottle in My
39:50
Hand by David Allen Coe, which is literally talking
39:52
about his girlfriend left him. But this Bottle
39:54
in My Hand will not leave me. And that is just
39:57
such a good country classic. And a lot of our
39:59
music just does come from... If you look at any
40:03
country greats, they always have a song about
40:05
drinking and about how much they love. George
40:07
Jones got a DUI on a lawnmower because he loves
40:10
drinking so much. The record, you know, Prohibition's
40:15
Greatest Hits, Volume 1, and I'm excited to hear
40:18
Volume 2 later. So it starts out with a sample
40:22
of a country music that says, beer, it makes
40:25
me a jolly good fellow. Tom T. Hall. Yeah. And
40:29
as you hear that, it makes you a jolly good fellow.
40:33
You hear a beer opening and then you hear feedback
40:36
that makes it doesn't seem so jolly. It doesn't
40:40
seem good. And then you hear the screaming of
40:44
the power violence and the beats kick in. So
40:47
I just think that's such a good picture of what
40:50
you're talking about, of what you're trying to
40:53
say. I want to be honest with you. I didn't mean
40:55
to do that. Yeah, we did. I don't know if you
40:58
guys meant to. I wasn't there for the first Prohibition
40:59
recording at all. Oh, yeah. I missed the whole
41:02
recording. The first demo was actually just me
41:04
and Drake. I stepped in for vocal stay, too.
41:07
Those songs were actually Drake's ideas. Shout
41:10
out, Drake. The Tom T. Hall and... Drake did
41:15
not... think about the tom t hall i actually
41:18
put drake on the tom t hall song i like my bad
41:21
but well drake's the one that uh put it in told
41:24
me he told me to do it i'll give him the benefit
41:27
of the doubt but i showed him that tall that
41:29
tom t hall song which yeah the goat of country
41:32
because i mixed the record and basically like
41:35
with those two songs drake kind of told me like
41:37
oh add these i was like okay and then you know
41:40
i i pitched them down i had a little tape effect
41:42
and whatever but um yeah the Point of the songs,
41:47
though, is to convey the feeling of the album.
41:50
Even though they're entirely different, it's
41:52
country music and we're power violence. It's
41:56
the same message and the same sadness. Couldn't
42:00
have said it better. Yeah, we just relate to
42:02
that kind of music. Country music, especially
42:05
for me, when I started Prohibition, was... When
42:10
I look back on it, I think a lot of songs in
42:13
general that have double entendres or triple
42:15
entendres don't really mean to do the things
42:17
they're doing. It's just the things they're saying
42:21
happen to correlate. And I think with Prohibition,
42:24
I've listened to country music. Like I said,
42:26
the first band I've ever listened to was Florida
42:29
Georgia Line. And I think most of the time when
42:32
I talk about Prohibition bullshit and I... say
42:35
the things that prohibition is about is i look
42:38
at country music and then i go there's a certain
42:40
correlation there that maybe is intentional subconsciously
42:44
or not but a lot a lot of the country music is
42:47
a lot of good country music in my opinion a lot
42:50
of late country pre -911 as i would say is alcoholic
42:56
and if you look at all that alcoholic country
42:59
not a lot of the greatest people do the alcoholic
43:04
songs. Like again, George Jones got arrested
43:06
for a DUI. David Allen Coe is not the greatest
43:10
guy. Johnny Paycheck, who wrote a lot of alcoholic
43:15
songs, died broke. A lot of those guys did not
43:19
end up well. And I'm not going to correlate that
43:21
with drinking, but I'm going to say drinking
43:23
maybe did contribute. And drinking is not a great
43:26
thing, but it's the thing a lot of people will
43:30
do. and a lot of people will love just like me
43:33
but realize it's fucking terrible yeah pretty
43:36
much and that's what prohibition is trying to
43:40
uh tell the youth tell the people who do drink
43:43
it's almost like a straight edge band but it's
43:45
but i hate straight edge bands because they're
43:48
they're not how is the straight edge fool gonna
43:51
tell me that drinking is fucking bad i drink
43:53
and he doesn't he doesn't know the the half of
43:55
it uh on that note i do see the point i love
43:59
straight edge music i love straight edge punk
44:02
and straight edge music is the greatest hardcore
44:05
music of all time for sure i i think with some
44:08
of the people in straight edge music they they
44:10
start with being a degenerate and then they kind
44:13
of realize i don't need this like it's it's i'm
44:16
good off that but there are some people who don't
44:19
touch a substance in their life and they preach
44:21
about it which like i still understand why they're
44:24
doing you shouldn't because you don't know the
44:26
heartaches you don't know the the hands -on experience
44:28
i like straight edge hardcore because i think
44:31
it's the greatest genre because again it's it's
44:33
shit like what we do it's meaningful it foundation
44:36
is one of my favorite favorite hardcore bands
44:38
of all time they're straight edge i don't give
44:42
a fuck that they're straight edge they just preach
44:43
about shit you should be doing which yeah you
44:45
shouldn't be doing what i'm doing and getting
44:46
plastered and spending all my money on liquor
44:48
you should be trying to better yourself and be
44:51
a good person yeah that's just another thing
44:54
that i really loved about prohibition that you
44:56
had a country influence and it's just it's kind
45:00
of out of left field you wouldn't think it would
45:02
work but it does i mean we're a country town
45:06
so how does living in baker seal that And for
45:10
you, being from Bakersfield, how has that affected
45:13
how you make music? It has affected me personally
45:17
a lot. Not just the Prohibition stuff, but for
45:21
Twin Barbecue, very heavily influenced by folk
45:25
and country. And honestly, there is a direction
45:28
nowadays where everybody's trying to be country
45:31
in a sense. For real. Even though some of those
45:35
people don't know shit about it. Who made that
45:39
new? Okay, Post Malone made one. I'm going to
45:42
be honest. Fuck Post Malone and fuck everyone
45:45
there that's rich as shit. Who made one? Beyonce
45:47
made a country album? Beyonce won the CMA Awards,
45:50
which was the country music awards. That bitch
45:52
should not have won country music awards at all.
45:55
I'm not saying you have to be country to make
45:56
a good country song, but it's fucking Beyonce.
46:00
Yeah, it's rich people who weren't. country to
46:03
begin with and that wannabe country, because,
46:07
you know, I think people do it because it appeals
46:09
to the blue collar. It's in the times now. Yeah,
46:12
exactly. People want to act like they're blue
46:15
collar or working class and you're not. But so,
46:18
so I kind of straight away, but living in Bakersfield,
46:22
being born and raised in Bakersfield, you know,
46:24
my, uh, grandparents loved country, of course.
46:28
And, uh, Yeah, I mean, it's awesome. Twin Barbecue,
46:35
my indie band, is influenced by it, obviously,
46:37
because modern day indie is very influenced by
46:40
folk and country. And apart from that, it's just,
46:44
you know, it's good, soulful, meaningful music.
46:47
And with Prohibition, even though it's the exact,
46:51
not the exact opposite, but sonically it is,
46:55
the message is still there. The lifestyle is
46:58
still there. because you know old school country
47:01
outlaw and things like that country started a
47:06
wave that you know they rockabilly rock and roll
47:09
it started a pipeline pretty much to being anti
47:13
-government and anti this and that like johnny
47:16
cash hates the government and he preaches anti
47:19
-government hate all the time And it's the same
47:22
shit that we're pretty much doing. Same thing
47:24
with rap music, same thing with punk rock, same
47:26
thing with metal to some regard. And so I think
47:30
it's just the messages, uh, and the feeling that,
47:34
you know, inspires us. Yeah. I mean, same shit
47:38
with Kent, like McKinnon just said, like, if
47:40
you go look at early Johnny Cash or, um, David
47:43
Allen Coe, David Allen Coe was a great outlaw,
47:47
terrible person. I'm going to be honest, but,
47:49
um, David Allen Coe just didn't want to sign
47:52
a record deal. He was so anti -government, so
47:54
anti -record deals. And Johnny Cash the same.
47:57
He was on drugs and he loved fucking liquor and
48:00
hates the government. And that's just at the
48:04
same time, that's what we're doing. It's definitely
48:06
different, definitely different sound than what
48:08
they're doing. But same principles, really. Same
48:11
principles. Johnny Cash wrote a bunch of songs
48:13
about alcohol. David Allen Coe wrote a shitload
48:15
of songs about alcohol. George Jones was on that
48:20
David Allen Coe song. Go listen to it. It's probably
48:23
one of my favorite country songs of all time.
48:25
This Bottle in My Hand. There's just so many
48:28
good country songs about getting fucked up and
48:31
drinking that... When I started Prohibition,
48:34
of course, I used to drink with Drake when I
48:38
lived with him and we started Prohibition so
48:39
much. I used to spend probably half of my $1
48:43
,000 check at the liquor store. I would just
48:46
get plastered. I'd get blackout drunk every day.
48:48
The whole goal was to see how long it took me
48:51
to get the shakes and get alcohol withdrawals.
48:54
Which is not a good idea. Which is not a good
48:57
idea, but it was a funny idea at the time and
48:59
I was committed. While I got drunk, I was listening
49:01
to country music the whole time. I was listening
49:03
to The Greats. I was listening to Merle Haggard,
49:05
Buck Owens. Even those two got songs about drinking
49:08
alcohol and getting fucked up. When we wrote
49:10
Prohibition, I started thinking, I was like,
49:13
you know what? What do we do when we come to
49:15
the Goodman household? We always get fucking
49:18
plastered. We always get very drunk, and we always
49:22
make really dumb decisions. I think, you know,
49:26
as a whole, I didn't say this, but as a whole,
49:29
I think we all agreed that the song should be
49:32
all about being drunk and the dumb mistakes people
49:35
make while being drunk. Because at the end of
49:37
the day, being drunk doesn't lead to good things.
49:40
It always leads to bad. And that's what Prohibition
49:43
is about. The bad. Yeah. I mean, personally,
49:48
I don't drink. And when I listen to your music,
49:51
it doesn't make me want to. Good. I've seen a
49:55
couple straight edge homies break edge. I don't
49:58
fuck with them. If you break edge, if you break
50:00
that commitment of being sober, I mean, it is
50:04
me that's saying this that is drunk as we're
50:06
speaking, but if you're upholding a commitment
50:09
of being straight edge, keep it, gang, because
50:11
you're doing what a lot of people can't afford
50:14
to do or don't want to do mentally. So that's
50:18
the big commitment. Yeah, it's very mentally
50:21
taxing. Shouts out, big influence for Prohibition
50:26
right now as a whole is Internal. The Internal
50:29
is the album. Scrape is the band. They have a
50:33
10 -song EP, 4 minutes 34 seconds. When we first
50:38
heard that shit, I remember me and Drake being
50:40
in his house and he played it and I was like,
50:42
this is PV right here. They have a song that's
50:45
like 3 seconds long, 4 seconds long. They have
50:47
a 30 -second song. I think they're... 10th song
50:50
their last song in their their ep is like a minute
50:53
30 so that really puts them into perspective
50:56
how long the other nine songs are and that's
50:59
what we were like when we started recording prohibition
51:02
we were like We just need like a 10 second song.
51:04
We need a fucking 10 second song, a 20 second
51:07
song. We're not going over a minute was the first
51:10
Prohibition mindset was like, if our song's over
51:13
a minute, it's fucking boring. Let's not run
51:15
that up. Growing up with my pops too, he has
51:17
a Sweatin' and Skatin' Volume 3 Spaz CD. And
51:21
so I've always kind of loved like the 30 second
51:25
hardcore Power of Violence songs. I love that
51:29
shit. I'm going to say a big shout -out to Going
51:32
Underground. I had to cop. I saw the last spaz.
51:35
It's a whole spaz compilation that I copped on
51:38
vinyl. Shout -out Ronald. Shout -out Taylor.
51:42
Shout -out Tay -Tay. Shout -out everyone who
51:44
works at Going Underground. Shout -out Nate.
51:46
If you live in Bakersfield right now and you're
51:49
not peeping the latest shit that's getting dropped
51:51
at Going Underground, you're obviously not in
51:55
the scene. I'm going to be honest. You're just
51:57
fucking up. But yeah, big PV inspirations. It's
52:01
country music, and it's that classic PV, except
52:05
for, I don't know, internal too much. I've only
52:07
heard the one EP, but they're really what set
52:11
us to what our songs... They put into perspective
52:14
how long our songs should be and how many songs
52:16
should be how long. Let's talk about some of
52:20
your live shows. You've played some shows in
52:22
town at the 415. You've played some out of town
52:24
ones. You have any stories you want to tell about
52:27
that? Shouts out our best show. Two best shows.
52:30
I'll say the first one. I know Cannon will have
52:32
some shit to say. Our best show from everyone
52:35
at the 415 who owns it and a lot of people. We
52:39
played with, I wish I had the jacket in my hand
52:42
right now, but probably one of my favorite PV
52:45
bands. Probably top. Honestly, no, it's probably
52:48
my favorite PV band of all time. Which is, it's
52:51
really biased because I played with them. Livid.
52:54
Shouts out Livid. We played a show at 415 with
52:58
Livid. And I think we were second to last or
53:01
third to last or something like that. From what
53:05
everyone says at the 415, it was Prohibition's
53:08
best show ever. Which, in my opinion... Maybe
53:13
one of the worst. I love it too because it's
53:15
so memorable. We were all so drunk. Cannon was
53:20
drunk. I think he was fucking up his bass parts.
53:23
I was fucking up my lyrics. And I was forgetting
53:25
my lyrics as well. I was fucking up my lyrics.
53:27
Drake was fucking up his. But Drake, he's wearing
53:30
his crust pants, which if you've ever seen Drake
53:32
in the wild, he used to wear these crust pants
53:35
that had holes and shit in them. Fuck, how do
53:41
I say this without catching? The beater, the
53:45
thing that will hit your kick drum, got stuck
53:49
in one of the holes in his pants. So when he
53:51
kicked his foot down, it wouldn't kick the drum.
53:54
It was stuck in his pants. So mid -set, he took
53:57
his pants off, which he had shorts, and then
53:59
under his shorts, underwear on. So he threw his
54:02
pants into the crowd, interrupted the whole show,
54:06
and... kept playing, and I remember talking to
54:09
the guys, Cannon talked to the guys at Livid
54:11
too, and I talked to the guys because they were
54:13
just the best fucking band I've seen in a good
54:15
minute. Probably still best, top five, top three,
54:19
four or five shows I've ever been at. Livid is
54:21
amazing, and I'm so glad we got to play with
54:22
him. Honestly, I fucking wish we could play more,
54:25
but he threw his pants out, and Livid was like,
54:27
you guys would hit LA, and at the time we were
54:29
kind of our grind violence phase, and they were
54:33
like, Cannon said, Oh, yeah. So I was talking
54:37
to them. I was like, yeah, we want to play more
54:39
out -of -town shows or whatever. And I forget
54:43
his name, honestly, but Shadow Livin'. And he
54:45
was like, yeah, you'd be great in L .A. I was
54:48
like, why? Because all the fucking, the mints
54:50
guys are out there. He's all, well, yeah. Shouts
54:54
out, Livin'. I think. But it was fun. I think
54:56
if Canon agrees, we can call this our best show.
54:59
The Destructive Warehouse. The Destructive Warehouse
55:02
show, I think, was. was also a fucking insane
55:06
one um not based on performance but i think the
55:11
performance for me and you the vocals alone probably
55:14
fresno destructive warehouse we played with uh
55:18
baspal we also play with john connor no no john
55:23
connor didn't make it it was that um they didn't
55:25
make it It was that Black Metal. Not Black Metal.
55:28
Sorry, I'm an asshole for even calling the Black
55:30
Metal. I hate Black Metal. Well, actually, you
55:31
were sleeping in your car. No, no, no. What are
55:34
they called? I don't want to pronounce the name
55:35
right now because I can't pronounce it correctly.
55:38
Yeah, I forget. The Fools Who Want to Invite
55:40
Us to Santa Clarita. Yeah, that's right. But
55:44
John Connor we're supposed to play. They played
55:46
a house show recently with Spyro Blast that Luna
55:49
and Dolly threw on. But John Connor's awesome.
55:51
We were supposed to play with them in Fresno.
55:53
But yeah, but Spall. They're amazing. Awesome
55:56
grind. Shouts out to Spall. They are fucking
55:58
peak grinder that I can hear right now. Not entirely
56:01
based on performance, but we had the honor to
56:04
play with... Dispero. Dispero was... They invited
56:07
us to Santa Clarita. Check them out, please.
56:09
They're amazing. They're a fucking very sick,
56:11
just crust band. They are insane. They are very
56:15
good. We also had the opportunity to play with
56:17
some of the great bands. ultras and speed plans
56:21
speed plans is one of the best punk bands going
56:24
on right now uh we are so good so good we also
56:28
learned about them from gold and i listened to
56:30
them there's so much energy so good they're also
56:34
real guys they're not like all flashy or whatever
56:37
they're just real guys who are actually punk
56:40
at the time i I took for granted Speed Plans,
56:43
but now it's one of those things where I didn't
56:46
know who Speed Plans was. Kind of like a lot
56:48
of the bands here, like Livid. I didn't know
56:49
who Livid was before I played with them. I played
56:52
with Speed Plans, and after I looked them up
56:54
and I listened to a lot of their shit, and I
56:55
was like, we just got blessed. They are very
56:59
good. We also had a gig where we played with
57:01
Homegrown. We played with Homegrown, I think.
57:05
Oh, no, I've seen Homegrown once. We played with
57:06
them. Awesome people, dude. They're amazing.
57:08
Shouts out ACXDC, too. We played with them. We
57:11
played with ACXDC, Antichrist, D. McCore, and
57:13
Floaters. Floaters from Japan and the Goats.
57:16
Homegrown, great people, humble. They're funny.
57:20
Orange County legends. Yeah, ACXDC, though, legendary
57:23
band, amazing band. When we got the opportunity
57:26
to play with ACXDC, I think Drake texted the
57:28
group chat and was like, do you want to play
57:29
with ACXDC? And I remember me, Cannon, Drake.
57:34
And, you know, Drake's ex all went to ACXDC,
57:37
an ACXDC show. With Hong Kong, fuck you. At the
57:41
time, they were special guests. They weren't
57:43
to be announced until we showed up. It was, the
57:45
headliner was Desmond. No, who was the headliner?
57:48
The headliner was Hong Kong, fuck you. Hong Kong,
57:49
fuck you. Then it was special guests. And I remember
57:51
ACXDC got thrown on. First time I've ever heard
57:53
them because, I don't know, maybe I'm a poser,
57:55
but I'm not too big into the scene. I've obviously
57:58
grown and thought more about the scene and listened
58:01
to more shit. But at the time ACXDC got played,
58:04
it was probably like a year, maybe two years
58:05
ago. And ACXDC got played. I remember looking
58:08
at my girl and I was like, this is some sick
58:10
ass shit. This is peak. Life changing music.
58:12
It is fucking sick. And when we got the opportunity
58:14
to play that, I honestly, I was so drunk. I don't
58:17
remember the set for ACXDC, but I just remember
58:19
being fucking excited to see ACXDC being played.
58:25
What are your plans for the future with the band?
58:28
uh honestly we don't really think about it at
58:30
all go straight edge yeah go uh we're gonna keep
58:34
writing music eventually we've been kind of on
58:36
hiatus we've all been doing you know we all got
58:39
jobs pretty much now like i don't know about
58:41
everyone but like you know drake has his job
58:44
canon i'm starting school hector's in school
58:46
drake's starting work liam's working yeah we're
58:49
all just super busy with real life shit we're
58:51
all becoming so it's kind of harder to run up
58:55
some shit because I work a 9 to 5. But eventually
58:58
we're going to write another... X Prohibition
59:02
X. Before that, we're going to write another
59:05
album, Prohibition's Greatest Hits Volume 2.
59:08
I'm probably going to keep the same format where
59:11
it's one long song, six minutes, you know, whatever,
59:13
when it's like five tracks. Yeah, we're going
59:18
to do another album eventually. When we have
59:20
time, we're going to get to it. And we're going
59:22
to write something with a little more substance,
59:25
a little harder, a little faster. Exactly. We're
59:27
just going to grow. And then, you know, who knows?
59:31
Maybe we'll take a straight edge journey. Yeah,
59:33
I think Prohibition. But for now, maybe another
59:37
EP or two, you know? I think Prohibition would
59:41
maybe bang out two EPs before I hit 21. Because
59:45
in reality, I want to hit... I want to do another
59:49
EP where there's a lot of songs from the shit
59:52
that's been dropped now on Bandcamp, Spotify,
59:55
SoundCloud. The EP, the only one we've dropped.
59:59
There's probably five or six songs that have
1:00:02
been cut out because it was in our grind phase
1:00:04
where we can rewrite to be more PV. Yeah, we
1:00:07
have a couple old ideas that are decent that
1:00:11
we'll redo. And then we have some new ones that
1:00:13
we've been writing. And then my whole goal is
1:00:15
to... go straight edge and show all the fools
1:00:21
who are straight edge that I know in the scene
1:00:23
that I am in that being straight edge means stop
1:00:26
fucking doom scrolling, stop drinking 700 milligram
1:00:29
caffeine, fucking C4, stop taking pre -workout,
1:00:32
stop doing all that shit. It's too stimulating.
1:00:34
If you're going to be straight edge, I might
1:00:36
as well stop getting drunk and showing you how
1:00:38
to do it. Yeah, you got to be fucking straight.
1:00:41
I'm going to rip the fucking 70 inch off my wall
1:00:43
right now and fucking become straight edge. Shout
1:00:45
out all of our straight edge friends so you guys
1:00:47
are strong. Yeah, if you're straight edge, you're
1:00:49
better than what I could ever be. Even if I become
1:00:52
that edge. But I hope to maybe write, like Cannon
1:00:56
said, two EPs of meaningful drunk bullshit and
1:00:59
then start a band called X Prohibition X is my
1:01:03
plan. That's actually already a band from Bakersfield.
1:01:05
Yeah, shouts out. When we started Prohibition,
1:01:08
I got pulled. We're going to stay Prohibition.
1:01:10
I'll take the name. They have one song, but it
1:01:13
was recorded live. On the compilation. I remember
1:01:17
Tay -Tay or Mario. I think it was either Taylor
1:01:19
or Mario. who told us when we first started Prohibition
1:01:22
that that was already a pre -existing Bakersfield
1:01:26
band. And I remember saying, like, great minds
1:01:28
think alike. And they were straight. They are
1:01:30
straight edge or were straight edge. I think
1:01:31
that's why. It actually sounds really good. That's
1:01:33
why I want to start the band. It's not power
1:01:35
violence. It's not the same. They're just punk.
1:01:38
Punk is sick. It's cool. And every other genre
1:01:40
is sick. Don't get me wrong. I'm not going to
1:01:43
exclude you. But I want to start. When they told
1:01:46
me X Prohibition X was a thing, which is. Exactly
1:01:49
why I even have that name in my head right now.
1:01:52
Why I'm saying my future band wants to be called
1:01:54
X Prohibition X is to take the torch. From straight
1:01:58
edge fools and run with it and be more straight
1:02:01
edge than them. We can't take the name, dude.
1:02:03
I want to take the name because I want to be
1:02:04
more straight edge. What if you ask for permission?
1:02:06
You just go say, yo, can we have the name? This
1:02:09
is a big America. Say, we'll turn straight edge
1:02:13
like you if you give us the name right. So we're
1:02:15
going to leave prohibition in the dust and turn
1:02:18
into ex -prohibition ex? I've talked to you about
1:02:21
this before. Maybe you're too drunk, but I want
1:02:23
to leave. being as drunk as I am, I mean, in
1:02:28
this room we're recording in, there is empty
1:02:31
gallons, and when I moved, I've left maybe 30
1:02:35
gallons of vodka, empty gallons of vodka bottles
1:02:37
over. I want to start a band called X Prohibition
1:02:40
X and do straight edge more than anyone else.
1:02:44
Like, there's the greats of straight edge, only
1:02:45
one. Foundation. There's a lot of good straight
1:02:50
edge bands, but in my opinion, how straight edge
1:02:53
are they? Do they have a real iPhone that they
1:02:57
do scroll on? Do they do all that shit? I want
1:03:00
to become straight edge, get a flip phone. You
1:03:02
know, maybe fucking speak to people in Morse
1:03:04
code, but I want to make X Prohibition X some
1:03:06
gold straight edge bullshit. Not gold as in the
1:03:10
band, but like some golden ticket edge. The true
1:03:13
edge. The one true edge? Some fucking Amish edge
1:03:16
shit where I don't... The no edging edge? The
1:03:18
no edging edge. I don't jerk off. It's actually
1:03:20
all edging. I don't jerk off. I don't... I fucking
1:03:23
don't even use Netflix. I'm out here scrolling
1:03:24
cable TV. Doing fucking shit like that. You don't
1:03:27
eat food, that gives too much dopamine. I go
1:03:30
to Erewhon and buy food because it doesn't have
1:03:32
any fucking chemicals in it. I'm on that wave
1:03:35
of straight edge. But I could be talking all
1:03:37
this shit and not do it because nicotine probably
1:03:39
is going to be the hardest thing to quit when
1:03:41
I become straight edge. But who knows how it
1:03:44
will go. Not to interrupt him, but so yeah, as
1:03:47
you can tell, big plans for Prohibition. Yeah.
1:03:51
Only the time will tell. All right, we come to
1:03:53
the last segment of every show. Shout -outs.
1:03:58
You know, we've done a lot already. We have.
1:04:01
But are there any shout -outs to bands that people
1:04:06
should listen to that are from Bakersfield? That
1:04:09
are from Bakersfield, that's a hard one. Sorry,
1:04:11
you know, Bakersfield bands. Because it's a Bakersfield
1:04:15
show, you know. I fucking have no clue. Well,
1:04:19
you know, first off, let me name drop my own
1:04:22
shit real quick. I do music with my dad. It's
1:04:26
kind of like an indie rock post -punk project.
1:04:30
Under his own name right now, D. Cal on Bandcamp,
1:04:34
D. Cal. And then apart from that, you know, obviously
1:04:39
our boys and Only One, Gold. Resolve. Resolve.
1:04:44
uh glass angels hey don't forget about the one
1:04:47
true uh what's on your phone case right there
1:04:49
oh indie rock and so real role legends so real
1:04:54
shout out alex i love alex alex one of my favorite
1:04:57
aunties and nate um in case you know the whole
1:05:02
band the whole band the whole band is he come
1:05:04
on but um Yeah, them. No more. Big shouts out,
1:05:08
No More. They're not a band anymore, but No More's
1:05:12
my goats. No More's my goats. For sure. Shout
1:05:15
out Epilepsy. Hey, I'm going to say a big shout
1:05:18
out right now to Soda Crackers. The Soda Crackers
1:05:20
are bringing back big Bakersfield sound. They're
1:05:23
bringing back the classic country. They are what
1:05:25
I hope every country artist now aspires to be,
1:05:28
and that is 60s traditional. Not that pre -9
1:05:33
-11 bullshit, which I'll say right now. There's
1:05:35
post -9 -11 country and there's pre -9 -11 country.
1:05:38
Post -9 -11 country is just, I love America.
1:05:42
I'm driving on a dirt road. Post -9 -11 country
1:05:46
is outlaw. You don't even have to be outlaw,
1:05:49
but it's just country. It's just good, clean
1:05:51
-fashioned country. Like he said, so real. Resolve.
1:05:57
Gold. Big shouts out gold. They've already been
1:06:00
on the podcast. Only one. Pump fake, even though
1:06:03
they're not too big of a thing anymore. Let me
1:06:06
name drop my own project again, Twin Barbecue.
1:06:08
Twin Barbecue. We're bringing Indie to Bakersfield
1:06:10
because, you know. I'm trying to think. Oh, hey,
1:06:13
big shots on Spiral Blast. Some more PV. Spiral
1:06:16
Blast. Some more PV bangers. Also, Drunk Punks
1:06:18
is hippies. Their other project, Luna and Zim,
1:06:23
they're geniuses. They're young geniuses. Eviscerate.
1:06:28
They've been doing this shit for a minute. Hey,
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wait. I've been talking about Mario all day.
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Oh, God. Big shouts out. Oh, God. Greed and Human
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Disgust. Greed and Human Disgust is a fucking
1:06:38
good punk band. Maybe one of my favorite punk
1:06:41
bands. I'm going to be honest. They play at Bakersfield
1:06:43
every other day. They need to be playing bigger.
1:06:45
But they're still the shit. They're still the
1:06:47
shit. They need to go play LA. They need to go
1:06:49
play fucking Wisconsin, Ohio, New York. Alaska.
1:06:53
Big shouts out fucking God. They're the shit.
1:06:56
One of the best bands ever, check him out on
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Bandcamp. God is to what Merle Haggard is to
1:07:01
Bakersfield. And that's God, G -A -H -D, just
1:07:05
so you get it right. When I think of Bakersfield,
1:07:07
I think of Buck Owens, Merle Haggard, God, and
1:07:11
gold. Amen, brother. And that's what I think
1:07:14
of. Those are the fucking greats that are doing
1:07:16
it right now. If there was a Bakersfield punk
1:07:19
band that if they ranked it, I would say Gold
1:07:23
God. the rest in any order you want. Also, this
1:07:26
isn't necessarily the podcast for rap yet, but
1:07:30
shout out our boy Stop Living, Christian. Yeah,
1:07:33
no, it's a fucking Bakersfield boy right there.
1:07:35
He's a Bakersfield legend. He's been doing it
1:07:37
for years. If we're shouting out musicians, it's
1:07:39
Stop Living. It's fucking... Big shout out. I
1:07:43
love Lasuna. Listen to that fool, even if it's
1:07:45
not some band adjacent shit. Shout out 99 Buck.
1:07:48
Shout out AJ Woods. AJ Woods. Simona. Big shouts
1:07:53
out, Simona. Simona. She's the GOAT. She doesn't
1:07:55
play music, but she's a legend. She doesn't play
1:07:57
music. Support your local drag queens. While
1:07:58
we're at Simona, shout out Sadie Gogo. Sadie
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Gogo, my favorite. She gave me her wig at a drag
1:08:04
show. She's my favorite. Shout out all the queens.
1:08:06
Shout out all my drag queens in Bakersfield.
1:08:08
For real, it's a hard thing to do out here in
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the most red state in California. And if you're
1:08:13
listening to this and you're not in Bakersfield,
1:08:15
come to Bakersfield. It's awesome. It's cooler
1:08:18
than fucking L .A. If you're from L .A., fuck
1:08:20
all that phony bullshit. Come to Bakersfield.
1:08:23
If you're looking for a scene that will invite
1:08:25
you with open arms and not just look at you like
1:08:31
you're some piece of allergy in the sea, it's
1:08:36
Bakersfield, baby. We're all about community.
1:08:38
We're all about protecting our supporters. Go
1:08:41
to the 415. Go to Jerry's. RIP Narducci's too.
1:08:45
While we're saying shoutouts, big RIP Narducci's.
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I've heard Gold say their name. I've heard a
1:08:51
lot of people say their name. Another great venue
1:08:53
that I wish I could have played at. Shouts out
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the Mud. Shouts out the Babylon. Shouts out the
1:09:02
fucking... Shout out Jerry's Pizza on occasion.
1:09:04
On occasion. Shouts out the Boxing Room, man.
1:09:07
Shouts out... Munoz Boxing Gym. It was ahead
1:09:11
of my time. I didn't even live in Bakersfield
1:09:14
before it was done. But I wish I could have time
1:09:17
traveled and seen the shows they had at Munoz.
1:09:20
Shout out Bakersfield. Shouts out Bakersfield
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as the hell. If you want to be in a big city
1:09:24
vibe, but in a small town community, I think
1:09:29
Bakersfield is the perfect place for you. I don't
1:09:30
shout out corn because, you know, I've talked
1:09:34
to people about this. And they want to defend
1:09:36
them, even tailoring them. But honestly, if you're
1:09:38
from Bakersfield, you want to rep Bakersfield,
1:09:40
you can't even play the mechanics arena. So what
1:09:44
if it sells out? Play your own hometown. I'm
1:09:47
going to keep it a stack. Fuck that. Shots at
1:09:48
corn. Jonathan Davis said one time in his interview
1:09:52
that he used to live in L .A. or Long Beach or
1:09:55
whatever the fuck. He said, the interviewer asked
1:09:59
him, why did you move back to Bakersfield? And
1:10:02
he said, I want to do redneck shit. And that's
1:10:05
Bakersfield, baby. Shout out Wheeler Walker Jr.
1:10:07
I love that man. I hate Wheeler Walker. Yeah,
1:10:11
fuck that guy. Honestly, big shout out to all
1:10:14
the bands that have been from Bakersfield, come
1:10:16
from Bakersfield that I even haven't named. Big
1:10:18
shout out the scene that Bakersfield is, the
1:10:20
country scene, the punk scene. Shout out our
1:10:21
friends and family. Yeah, the punk scene, the
1:10:24
415 as a whole. If you're going to a show, make
1:10:27
it the 415 as your first. It's home. It's great.
1:10:32
Jerry's is great, too. I think Bakersfield as
1:10:35
a whole. Pull up. Listen to the bands. We got
1:10:39
some shit you want to hear. I think that's all
1:10:42
I got to say. Shout out Oildale. Oildale's the
1:10:49
best. Cut that, cut that, cut that. Oildale's
1:10:52
the best sub -city of a town ever. I think I'm
1:10:56
glad to be on this podcast.