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2024 Primary Election Results: Part One · Crosstabs

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SPEAKER_01: Did I say guest?
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SPEAKER_00: Dang it.
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SPEAKER_00: Let me record that then.
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SPEAKER_01: Co-host is what I was trying to say.
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SPEAKER_01: Let's start over.
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SPEAKER_01: We're clear to engage.
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SPEAKER_01: Time on target.
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SPEAKER_01: Five mics.
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SPEAKER_01: Welcome back to Crosstabs.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm Reagan Knope here with my co-host Brian Iverson.
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SPEAKER_01: How are you doing today, Brian?
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SPEAKER_00: I'm great, Reagan.
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SPEAKER_00: Thanks for having me.
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SPEAKER_00: Coming online together.
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SPEAKER_00: I think it's going to be interesting to talk about these results.
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SPEAKER_00: I feel like they're kind of lackluster from what I think we were expecting, but it'll be interesting.
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SPEAKER_00: We're going to run through them, talk about them, see where we think things are at, but it'll be fun.
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SPEAKER_00: We'll kind of go through them all,
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SPEAKER_00: but let's start first with what we both want to talk about,
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SPEAKER_00: which is turnout.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, just, you know, kind of horrible.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm looking at the website now and it'll probably tink up to maybe 32% voter turnout.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's just horrible.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's not even a million voters, a million votes.
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SPEAKER_00: And it's better in some other counties and horrible in others, but the reality is...
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SPEAKER_00: Voters don't care.
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SPEAKER_00: Voter apathy is really at an all-time low from what we can look at from turnout.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, it was very difficult.
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SPEAKER_00: Republicans, Democrats, you name it.
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SPEAKER_00: There was a few shiny spots,
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SPEAKER_00: I think,
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SPEAKER_00: in the turnout that I saw,
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SPEAKER_00: but they're usually tied to either hotly contested congressional primaries or
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SPEAKER_00: something along those lines.
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SPEAKER_00: But even there, in some counties, it was still not good at all.
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SPEAKER_00: So what was your take on it?
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SPEAKER_01: Well, when you were talking about the numbers, I pulled up voter turnout history of primary elections.
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SPEAKER_01: So I would say this...
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SPEAKER_01: feels to me a lot like 2012.
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SPEAKER_01: 2012 was that really sleepy Romney, Obama.
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SPEAKER_01: It was already determined.
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SPEAKER_01: Everybody knew what was happening.
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SPEAKER_01: And we had voter turnout of about 38%.
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SPEAKER_01: And that was still higher than this year.
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SPEAKER_01: But then we had 2016 was 53% turnout in the primary.
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SPEAKER_01: And 2020 was 46% turnout in the primary.
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SPEAKER_01: 2008, the year Obama and Clinton were going at it,
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SPEAKER_01: for the presidential 58% participation.
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SPEAKER_01: So I agree with you, Brian is a low watermark.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know if it is a trend or if it's just this particular election year,
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SPEAKER_01: but there's just,
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SPEAKER_01: you could sense the,
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SPEAKER_01: the apathy out there.
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SPEAKER_01: And I think that that allowed, um,
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SPEAKER_01: certain groups and and types of voters you know to increase their turnout a little
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SPEAKER_01: bit and have big results um because of it i think in a lot of races where you
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SPEAKER_01: didn't have the vote split you had a lot of these close fights but if there was
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SPEAKER_01: vote splitting i think then you had one candidate who kind of stood above and we'll
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SPEAKER_01: look at that as we go into these
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SPEAKER_01: election results but before we get into that because that's what everybody's here
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SPEAKER_01: for we should start with some uh gratuitous self-promotion brian on crosstabs i'll
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SPEAKER_01: link up an email i sent out you and i were both quoted you intentionally were
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SPEAKER_01: quoted in the capital chronicle about some results i tweeted which is always a
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SPEAKER_01: mistake we did a little bit of talking about some of these results and i just
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SPEAKER_01: wanted to know if there was anything in there you wanted to cover to kind of
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SPEAKER_01: you know, paint the broad picture before we go into race by race.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: I think the, the broad, the broad stroke of that.
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SPEAKER_00: And that was really what,
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SPEAKER_00: uh,
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SPEAKER_00: talk,
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SPEAKER_00: I talked with Derek at OPB as well as Julie Shumway and,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: they're,
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SPEAKER_00: I think they're trying to get the sense of things, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Because I think everybody beyond the turnout numbers,
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SPEAKER_00: and even with the turnout numbers,
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SPEAKER_00: I was just looking at it too,
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SPEAKER_00: of the near million,
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SPEAKER_00: 400,000 of those votes came in three counties around Portland.
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SPEAKER_00: So really 40% of our...
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SPEAKER_00: voter turnout is Portland metro area,
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SPEAKER_00: which is,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: again,
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SPEAKER_00: we're not going to have any change in Oregon if we allow those three counties to
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SPEAKER_00: dictate what happens in the state.
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SPEAKER_00: So, but I didn't get into that with the media.
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SPEAKER_00: My biggest thing with the media was,
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SPEAKER_00: is I really,
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SPEAKER_00: I think we,
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SPEAKER_00: Julia and I got into it a little bit talking about
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SPEAKER_00: the difference between Southern Oregon Republicans and Eastern Oregon Republicans
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SPEAKER_00: and kind of maybe that mainstream versus that obstructionist kind of Republican mentality.
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SPEAKER_00: And I thought it was a pretty interesting conversation, one that
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SPEAKER_00: I even told her maybe she'll have to come on the podcast and we could talk about a
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SPEAKER_00: little bit more and just kind of really dive into that a little bit because I think
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SPEAKER_00: there really was something to that that allowed certain groups within groups,
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SPEAKER_00: right?
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SPEAKER_00: So you have these smaller circles within bigger circles that really were able to find,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: footholds and stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: And I think that was pretty kind of interesting, but they're very micro-niche circles.
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SPEAKER_00: And I think it really goes to what I really liked what you said in that Dick Hughes
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SPEAKER_00: piece or that you tweeted that he referenced,
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SPEAKER_00: which you and I are going to really dive into is when do we as Republicans give up
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SPEAKER_00: on an issue?
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SPEAKER_00: And I think what happened,
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SPEAKER_00: like you referenced in your article or your tweet that he referenced,
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SPEAKER_00: which I thought was really interesting,
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SPEAKER_00: is the stolen election from 2020,
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SPEAKER_00: right?
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SPEAKER_00: Like we've been voted vote by mail in Oregon now 24 years now.
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SPEAKER_00: Basically, we've been doing it, perfecting it, I think, from a county clerk level.
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SPEAKER_00: They're getting better at it.
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SPEAKER_00: There's been some changes and some nuances that I don't think you or I are on board with either.
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SPEAKER_00: Motor voter stuff, things like that have really kind of taken away the process.
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SPEAKER_00: the participation trophy from the,
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SPEAKER_00: or giving people the participation trophy from actually saying,
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SPEAKER_00: this is your civic duty to vote.
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SPEAKER_00: And I think the participation trophy mentality of voting creates bad outcomes.
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SPEAKER_00: Whereas if people want to participate and they're forced to, if they need to go vote by mail, great.
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SPEAKER_00: But that idea of showing up at the school or
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SPEAKER_00: what have you, and voting is just kind of lost, that civic duty, that responsibility.
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SPEAKER_00: And that's why I think we're seeing the downward trend in turnout because we're
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SPEAKER_00: seeing this number of ballots going out the door,
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SPEAKER_00: and it's really causing some issues.
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SPEAKER_00: And I think we really need to dive into those issues that are causing people to not
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SPEAKER_00: want to vote versus – because the candidates clearly aren't making people show up
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SPEAKER_00: in droves,
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SPEAKER_00: especially with the Trump versus –
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SPEAKER_00: Biden scenario,
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SPEAKER_00: like you talked about with 2012 Reagan,
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SPEAKER_00: I really see that that just was everybody just kind of like that's kind of where
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SPEAKER_00: I'm at on it.
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SPEAKER_00: I know I probably rambled there a little bit,
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SPEAKER_00: but it's just this confluence of I can't put my finger on exactly what it is.
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SPEAKER_00: But there's something that these voters are just saying, I don't give a shit.
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SPEAKER_01: Brian,
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SPEAKER_01: you've ever had one of those off days where you're like,
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SPEAKER_01: it doesn't just feel right,
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SPEAKER_01: but you don't really know why.
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SPEAKER_01: And you just go to bed early and hope it goes away tomorrow.
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SPEAKER_01: That's what I feel like this election was like.
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SPEAKER_01: It was like, man, I just kind of weird, kind of feel a little off, didn't feel quite right.
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SPEAKER_01: And we're just going to hope it's gone by November.
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SPEAKER_01: And I don't know if it will be because again, like you were saying, it's hard to pinpoint.
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SPEAKER_01: And I think I agree with you, Brian.
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SPEAKER_01: I appreciate you adding a little bit of clarification.
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SPEAKER_01: My point was not that our voting system is perfect and that all the changes that made to it are good.
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SPEAKER_01: My point was this key plank that Republicans keep talking about,
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SPEAKER_01: keep running on,
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SPEAKER_01: keep emphasizing about how the 2020 election is stolen and there's rampant fraud everywhere.
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SPEAKER_01: It's not landing with voters.
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SPEAKER_01: So and I haven't seen a lot of evidence either.
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SPEAKER_01: People are throwing things out there that are easily explained by our laws and by
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SPEAKER_01: changes in voter behavior and people moving from region to region,
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SPEAKER_01: okay?
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SPEAKER_01: And I think as long as we're going to have members of the Republican Party that
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SPEAKER_01: keep running on this,
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SPEAKER_01: I think we're just going to keep losing as a party.
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SPEAKER_01: I think there are some real challenges.
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SPEAKER_01: I think ballot harvesting is bad.
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SPEAKER_01: I think we need to get rid of it.
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SPEAKER_01: But before we do that, we have to win elections.
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SPEAKER_01: And
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SPEAKER_01: If voters don't care or don't seem to be enthused on this point, let's drop it for now.
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SPEAKER_01: We bring it back up when it matters.
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SPEAKER_01: Bring it back up when there's an actual issue.
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SPEAKER_01: Bring it back up when voters are interested in dealing with it.
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SPEAKER_01: But they have other priorities right now.
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SPEAKER_01: The economy, the border.
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SPEAKER_01: You know,
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SPEAKER_01: boys playing in girls sports,
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SPEAKER_01: all these issues,
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SPEAKER_01: I think,
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SPEAKER_01: are popping up a lot more than the election issue.
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SPEAKER_01: We have ranked choice voting on the ballot this fall,
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SPEAKER_01: and that'll give us a lot of opportunity to talk about it.
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SPEAKER_01: I think that's even worse for elections.
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SPEAKER_01: I think that's going to generate more confusion, more apathy.
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SPEAKER_01: But I think for now, we'll talk about the results.
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SPEAKER_01: And then as we move through this campaign, I think we'll have more to discuss on that front.
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SPEAKER_00: Do you believe,
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SPEAKER_00: because I'm curious your thoughts on this,
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SPEAKER_00: confusion is something that Democrats intentionally try to do?
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SPEAKER_00: Or do you think confusion for the voters is just basically...
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SPEAKER_00: makes it easier for incumbents, makes it easier for the ruling class of either party to retain control.
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SPEAKER_00: Is that the goal?
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SPEAKER_00: That's a good question.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know if I have a good answer for that.
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SPEAKER_01: I'll just say that I think the progressive movement,
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SPEAKER_01: especially that really dominates in Oregon,
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SPEAKER_01: is very aggressive about making changes to things really quickly.
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SPEAKER_01: And that tends to frustrate voters who move a lot slower.
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SPEAKER_01: and so i don't know if that's the intention but a lot of times that's the outcome
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SPEAKER_01: generating confusion not caring about i would say not caring about the consequences
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SPEAKER_01: sometimes i see that especially with some of these big legislation that they push
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SPEAKER_01: through and and they're told about these potential unintended consequences and they
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SPEAKER_01: seem to move forward without giving a lot of thought to those so i would say they
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SPEAKER_01: don't seem to be concerned with
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SPEAKER_01: considering and accounting for potential unintended consequences.
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SPEAKER_01: They move aggressively and then they fix stuff that's broken,
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SPEAKER_01: but they never take the blame for making that stuff broken in the first place.
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SPEAKER_01: I think that's my frustration,
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SPEAKER_01: but I think a lot of people probably see it the way that you brought it out.
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SPEAKER_01: Brian, where they're trying to cause confusion, that confusion allows them to operate effectively.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean,
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SPEAKER_01: you know this,
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SPEAKER_01: Brian,
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SPEAKER_01: if you've got an issue you don't really like to deal with,
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SPEAKER_01: political consultants and strategists will try to muddy the waters to make it confusing.
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SPEAKER_01: And then it helps you to be able to move on from the issue that doesn't work to the issue that does.
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SPEAKER_01: So that could very well be a strategy.
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SPEAKER_00: We'll definitely dive in that rank choice voting some more as we move through the summer and stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: I think we'll maybe even have an expert on that can even explain it to people.
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SPEAKER_00: I just don't, I think people in general, they want to vote for good government measures and bills.
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SPEAKER_00: Like people feel like, I want to vote for that.
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SPEAKER_00: That sounds like good government.
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SPEAKER_00: People want better government.
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SPEAKER_00: And so when you couch thing, something in a way that makes people think it's good government,
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SPEAKER_00: or it's good policy, then they're going to vote for it.
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SPEAKER_00: And I just, without to your point, the unintended consequences of the outcome of that.
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SPEAKER_00: And I think that that's really going to be where rank choice voting gets into is
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SPEAKER_00: how do we defeat something when a voter base is already going to believe that rank
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SPEAKER_00: choice voting is,
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SPEAKER_00: it's going to be couched as this,
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SPEAKER_00: Oh,
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SPEAKER_00: it's a great idea.
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SPEAKER_00: It's good government.
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SPEAKER_00: It's going to make better government.
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SPEAKER_00: And,
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SPEAKER_00: Everybody wants better government.
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SPEAKER_00: I think that's a universal or fairly universal besides a few obstructionists that
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SPEAKER_00: don't want government at all.
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SPEAKER_00: But, yeah, it should be interesting.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, let's let's not digress into that because you and I are probably pretty good at digressing.
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SPEAKER_00: And let's maybe pivot in and talk about.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, let's talk about the politicos first.
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SPEAKER_00: Let's talk about the pundits because they're more fun.
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SPEAKER_00: Did they get it right?
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SPEAKER_00: Did they get it wrong?
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SPEAKER_00: Because then we can be critical of what they did.
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SPEAKER_00: I think that's more fun than talking about whether we got it right or wrong,
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SPEAKER_00: because I think we were close to 100%.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, I don't know, but my math has me pretty close.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm looking at my notes.
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SPEAKER_01: bolded in my notes, Brian, all the candidates that we picked.
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SPEAKER_01: And for the most part,
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SPEAKER_01: with a couple of exceptions,
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SPEAKER_01: the conventional wisdom really dominated in this election.
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SPEAKER_01: And so we'll probably have pretty high percentages would be my guess.
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SPEAKER_01: But I would say there's there's one person who I feel like even when he's getting
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SPEAKER_01: it right,
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SPEAKER_01: he's getting it wrong.
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SPEAKER_01: And I just want to talk about this because he was quoted in the article with me is Jim Moore.
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SPEAKER_01: He is a political pundit.
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SPEAKER_01: Let me see what his is.
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SPEAKER_01: He's got a title in here.
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SPEAKER_00: somewhere hold on i'm pulling it up but outreach director at pacific university or
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SPEAKER_01: something and and he's one of these guys that is always able to give a quote to
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SPEAKER_01: journalists and that's probably why they like him because he's accessible that's an
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SPEAKER_01: important thing for journalists if you're accessible you're going to get you know
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SPEAKER_01: used you're going to get quoted you're going to be used as a source all that kind
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SPEAKER_01: of stuff but man jim does one of two things
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SPEAKER_01: Because I don't think he's ever run a political campaign.
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SPEAKER_01: This comes up, Brian.
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SPEAKER_01: We keep bringing this up.
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SPEAKER_01: People have never run political campaigns commenting on them.
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SPEAKER_01: It just never goes well because they don't have the experience.
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SPEAKER_01: Go run at least one of these campaigns somewhere for some issue,
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SPEAKER_01: for some candidate,
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SPEAKER_01: and then come back and tell me what you learned.
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SPEAKER_01: Because I don't think that Jim has run a campaign unless I don't know deep in his history,
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SPEAKER_01: but it's been too long.
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SPEAKER_01: Because Jim Moore has two types of quotes, okay?
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SPEAKER_01: Jim Moore, number one, is stating the obvious in the most obvious way possible.
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SPEAKER_01: And that's what he does about 50% of the time.
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SPEAKER_01: And I mean,
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SPEAKER_01: I should go through and just pull up some of these quotes that just make me crazy
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SPEAKER_01: about how,
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SPEAKER_01: well,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: the person with the most votes is probably going to win this election.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Jim, thank you.
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SPEAKER_01: Thank you for that one.
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SPEAKER_01: Voters might be simple, but we're not that simple.
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SPEAKER_01: And then there's the other half where he's just like, just totally wrong.
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SPEAKER_01: Just completely outright, straight up wrong.
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SPEAKER_01: And that's what makes me crazy about how journalists keep going back to him and get these quotes.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like, are you reading the quote that he sent you and you're still okay with publishing it?
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SPEAKER_01: And it just, it makes me crazy.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, have you ever, you've read probably 800 Jim Moore quotes in your career, Brian.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, am I off base here?
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SPEAKER_00: You watch him on, was it Your Voice, Your Vote or whatever.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean,
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SPEAKER_00: and then all you want to do is jump through the TV screen and punch him,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: because of what he said.
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SPEAKER_00: And you're like, you have no idea what you're talking about.
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SPEAKER_00: Like zero, it's almost like, and he talks about the legislature, like he's there all the time.
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SPEAKER_00: I've been down there for five years now.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, solid.
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SPEAKER_00: I've never seen the guy in the building,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: and that's the part that really drives me nuts with some of these people.
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SPEAKER_00: They can literally, you sit at home and read some blogs and then now you're an expert in political stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: Like it's just, it's silliness to me.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't know where the expertise comes from, but it definitely doesn't come from experience.
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SPEAKER_01: Here's the quote he had in the article I was also quoted in.
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SPEAKER_01: We may have had turnout on the lower end of normal, but those voters really knew what they wanted.
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SPEAKER_01: Because they checked the box for the candidate they wanted.
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SPEAKER_01: That's how voting works, man.
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SPEAKER_01: How does he know that?
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SPEAKER_01: It makes me crazy.
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SPEAKER_00: Did he talk to every one of those voters in that area and said,
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SPEAKER_00: oh,
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SPEAKER_00: yeah,
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SPEAKER_00: I was for sure I knew who I was voting for?
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SPEAKER_00: Like, that's a complete lie.
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SPEAKER_00: It makes no sense whatsoever about that.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's just making taking these broad strokes and just owning them.
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SPEAKER_00: So and he said, you know, one of his primaries, he was really watching.
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SPEAKER_00: was that he thought was going to be close was my wife's primary.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, I remember that was on his blog thing.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he goes, one, he didn't get the other.
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SPEAKER_00: And she won 91% of the vote, by the way.
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SPEAKER_00: Good job.
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SPEAKER_00: I think she almost did better.
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SPEAKER_00: And she had two people against her.
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SPEAKER_00: So good luck with that, Jim.
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SPEAKER_00: So I don't know.
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SPEAKER_00: I just think the pundits drive me nuts.
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SPEAKER_00: I think that some of this stuff,
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SPEAKER_00: I mean,
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SPEAKER_00: like Betsy Johnson can go out there and I'll listen to her because guess what?
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SPEAKER_00: She's done it.
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SPEAKER_00: You know,
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SPEAKER_00: like I'll listen to her,
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SPEAKER_00: her pontificate about a race or a candidate or something like that because there's
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SPEAKER_00: some real,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
17:03
SPEAKER_00: experience there like a lifetime of experience where she's been in the trenches
17:09
SPEAKER_00: from the legislative side as well as the campaign side.
17:12
SPEAKER_00: I'll listen to her when she's on the news talking about stuff because
17:16
SPEAKER_00: you know,
17:16
SPEAKER_00: she's probably got pretty good ideas and pretty good thoughts because she's been there,
17:22
SPEAKER_00: but not Jim Moore.
17:23
SPEAKER_00: Like, waste of time.
17:24
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what KATU does, but I don't know how much they pay that guy.
17:28
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he's got to get paid to be that accessible person.
17:32
SPEAKER_00: I'm assuming he's a paid.
17:33
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if they have to say that or not.
17:36
SPEAKER_00: If they're paid, maybe he does it because it's great for
17:39
SPEAKER_00: pacific university that he's there i i don't know i never knew pacific university
17:44
SPEAKER_00: was a political science hotbed uh over there so who knows too frustrating all right
17:51
SPEAKER_01: so we started brian with our predictions and and our prep in very first episode
17:57
SPEAKER_01: episode one we talked about the statewide and congressional so let's run through
18:00
SPEAKER_01: those
18:02
SPEAKER_01: Secretary of State,
18:04
SPEAKER_01: Brian,
18:04
SPEAKER_01: I will say I wasn't surprised that Tobias Reid won,
18:07
SPEAKER_01: but I was surprised at how much he absolutely dominated State Senator James Manning,
18:13
SPEAKER_01: including in his home county of Lane County.
18:16
SPEAKER_00: I'm with you.
18:18
SPEAKER_00: I thought it would be a little tighter.
18:21
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it seemed like Manning was doing some stuff.
18:26
SPEAKER_00: I saw things where he was going around and talking to the central committees and that sort of stuff.
18:32
SPEAKER_00: So he was doing...
18:33
SPEAKER_00: some of the work,
18:34
SPEAKER_00: but,
18:35
SPEAKER_00: uh,
18:35
SPEAKER_00: I,
18:35
SPEAKER_00: I tells you Tobias being on the statewide ballot for,
18:39
SPEAKER_00: you know,
18:39
SPEAKER_00: and I think the primary helped him,
18:41
SPEAKER_00: the Democrat,
18:43
SPEAKER_00: uh,
18:43
SPEAKER_00: governor's primary last time.
18:44
SPEAKER_00: I think that probably helped him out a lot as well,
18:47
SPEAKER_00: but sure looks like this one's already over before it started in the general.
18:52
SPEAKER_00: So as well.
18:54
SPEAKER_00: So I would say that Tobias is, uh,
18:57
SPEAKER_00: Our new secretary of state.
18:59
SPEAKER_01: I think that's absolutely right, Brian.
19:00
SPEAKER_01: I mean, you look at this.
19:01
SPEAKER_01: I'm not that these are always correct,
19:03
SPEAKER_01: but almost 400,000 votes cast statewide in this primary versus 275 for the Republicans.
19:09
SPEAKER_01: You'll see a similar margin probably statewide.
19:12
SPEAKER_01: And the journalists will probably be on pretty hard about election denialism in the meantime.
19:18
SPEAKER_01: And that's probably not going to work.
19:20
SPEAKER_01: for him in a secretary of state race.
19:22
SPEAKER_00: Well, and he didn't, and you know, neither Manning and Manning's voters will come over to Tobias's vote.
19:28
SPEAKER_00: I mean, there was no negativity within their primaries or anything.
19:32
SPEAKER_00: So there, there won't be any sort of, uh, you know, voter fallout at all on this side of it.
19:38
SPEAKER_00: And, and you and I talked about it.
19:40
SPEAKER_00: I mean,
19:41
SPEAKER_00: As far as Democrats go, Tobias has been a fairly decent treasurer.
19:46
SPEAKER_00: I don't think anybody's had, there hasn't been any, any issues in his office.
19:50
SPEAKER_00: You know,
19:50
SPEAKER_00: nobody's suspected him of fraud or malfeasance like we've had in the secretary of
19:55
SPEAKER_00: state's office.
19:56
SPEAKER_00: So I think it'll, that's probably helped him out a lot.
19:59
SPEAKER_00: There's not a lot of, I mean, I,
20:02
SPEAKER_00: This is probably one of those times in a treasurer's office where you want zero controversy.
20:06
SPEAKER_00: You want zero Willamette Week articles about your office.
20:10
SPEAKER_00: And so he's done it for eight years.
20:12
SPEAKER_00: He's done a pretty good job of that.
20:14
SPEAKER_00: So I think it's been a pretty difficult road for Senator Lithicum to hoe in trying
20:23
SPEAKER_00: to beat Tobias in the general.
20:25
SPEAKER_00: But, you know, we'll maybe have one of them, both of them on and talk about it.
20:29
SPEAKER_00: We'll see what they got to say about it.
20:32
SPEAKER_01: The only person probably who's been critical of Tobias Reed is Jeff Goodman,
20:36
SPEAKER_01: running for state treasurer.
20:38
SPEAKER_01: And he just got also absolutely smoked by Elizabeth Steiner.
20:43
SPEAKER_01: And I was hearing from my Portland area Democrat friends who are texting me.
20:47
SPEAKER_01: They're like, Jeff Goodman, a Democrat?
20:50
SPEAKER_01: Because he'd appeared on the ballot a couple times as a Republican.
20:54
SPEAKER_01: And this is one of those ones where...
20:57
SPEAKER_01: I wasn't sad to see,
20:58
SPEAKER_01: you know,
20:59
SPEAKER_01: if you look at it,
21:00
SPEAKER_01: do you think Jeff Goodman would have been more of a Republican style treasurer than
21:04
SPEAKER_01: Senator Steiner?
21:05
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
21:05
SPEAKER_01: But here he switched parties and I'm not OK with it.
21:09
SPEAKER_01: The reasons that he did it aren't good reasons to me.
21:13
SPEAKER_01: And so I'm glad to see him get just absolutely demolished here.
21:17
SPEAKER_01: This is another one of those ones where we talked about Steiner and Boquist both being
21:22
SPEAKER_01: sort of giants in their parties, been around the legislature and the legislative process a long time.
21:28
SPEAKER_01: Both real quality people.
21:30
SPEAKER_01: I think that we should try to get them on the podcast too.
21:32
SPEAKER_01: I think it'd be great.
21:33
SPEAKER_01: Maybe we'll host the only debate for this entire election and maybe we'll only have 10 people listen.
21:40
SPEAKER_00: I was going to say it might be our lowest listened to podcast, but you and I would love it.
21:45
SPEAKER_00: And I, I think, well, we probably have, you know,
21:49
SPEAKER_00: 60 or 70 of the legislative body, though.
21:52
SPEAKER_00: They would listen to it.
21:53
SPEAKER_00: They'd probably find it interesting because it is such inside baseball and the treasurer stuff.
21:57
SPEAKER_00: But my thought was is I found it very interesting that the Oregonian endorsed Goodman over Steiner.
22:06
SPEAKER_00: Like, that was...
22:09
SPEAKER_00: What did they see that the rest of the voting population saw that this was going to
22:15
SPEAKER_00: be a Steiner versus Boquist race?
22:20
SPEAKER_00: That's what I would ask the Oregonian.
22:22
SPEAKER_00: What did you guys hear?
22:24
SPEAKER_00: Or what made you upset about Steiner, that Senator Steiner, that you went with Goodman?
22:29
SPEAKER_00: Because I don't know, that's a huge fail if you ask me.
22:34
SPEAKER_00: On their part, I mean, Duke got 20% of the vote.
22:37
SPEAKER_00: Like, can't endorse for somebody that's basically a non-sequitur.
22:41
SPEAKER_00: Maybe they did it just to make it seem like they were contrarian.
22:44
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
22:45
SPEAKER_00: Who knows?
22:46
SPEAKER_00: But I doubt it.
22:48
SPEAKER_01: Brian,
22:48
SPEAKER_01: I agree with you,
22:49
SPEAKER_01: and I feel like I was talking to somebody not that long ago about how terrible it
22:53
SPEAKER_01: is for your campaign to be endorsed by the Oregonian,
22:55
SPEAKER_01: but I might just be misremembering that.
22:58
SPEAKER_01: Oh, wait, that was you, Brian.
22:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I have no idea what they saw.
23:02
SPEAKER_01: No idea what they saw, honestly.
23:04
SPEAKER_01: They're...
23:06
SPEAKER_01: Uh, again, conventional wisdom in the attorney general primaries prevails.
23:10
SPEAKER_01: We got Dan Rayfield and we got Will Lathrop,
23:14
SPEAKER_01: which again,
23:14
SPEAKER_01: even though it's third ranked on the list here,
23:18
SPEAKER_01: seems likely to be one of the more interesting races at the top of the ticket.
23:24
SPEAKER_01: Uh, and I think we'll see how that one develops.
23:26
SPEAKER_01: Any thoughts on that?
23:27
SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah, I agree.
23:29
SPEAKER_00: I think, uh,
23:32
SPEAKER_00: The problem with this AG race,
23:34
SPEAKER_00: I believe,
23:34
SPEAKER_00: is you're going to have two,
23:38
SPEAKER_00: I think,
23:38
SPEAKER_00: very well-liked candidates from the business community,
23:44
SPEAKER_00: from those sort of folks.
23:45
SPEAKER_00: Rayfield built a pretty good relationship base across the aisle in a bunch of different areas.
23:51
SPEAKER_00: And I think everybody likes Will's story.
23:54
SPEAKER_00: I think that the numbers are...
23:57
SPEAKER_00: Clearly tilted in Rayfield's camp on this one.
24:01
SPEAKER_00: But Will's done a good job.
24:03
SPEAKER_00: I think he did a good job getting around the state.
24:05
SPEAKER_00: I think he's got a great story.
24:06
SPEAKER_00: I think he's got a great idea.
24:08
SPEAKER_00: He's got a... I just don't know in a presidential election...
24:14
SPEAKER_00: Can he make enough people counterintuitive to the Trump v.
24:20
SPEAKER_00: Biden scenario to get them to switch and vote Republican if they voted for Biden?
24:28
SPEAKER_00: That's going to be pretty interesting.
24:29
SPEAKER_00: This could be a money issue in this race as well.
24:33
SPEAKER_00: I think that Rayfield has proven that he can tear the doors off of fundraising.
24:38
SPEAKER_00: So I feel like if...
24:42
SPEAKER_00: and I was talking to somebody the other day,
24:43
SPEAKER_00: I was like,
24:44
SPEAKER_00: if,
24:44
SPEAKER_00: if Will goes out and raises $2 million,
24:46
SPEAKER_00: Ray Phil will raise four.
24:48
SPEAKER_00: If Will kills it and raises three, Ray Phil will raise nine.
24:52
SPEAKER_00: Like he'll just, you know, uh, he'll just raise more.
24:56
SPEAKER_00: And I think the,
24:57
SPEAKER_00: the,
24:59
SPEAKER_00: the,
24:59
SPEAKER_00: the top cops stuff,
25:01
SPEAKER_00: the,
25:01
SPEAKER_00: the DA races,
25:02
SPEAKER_00: it seems like there's been something that the Democrats have really tried to move
25:07
SPEAKER_00: into across the country over the last 10 years.
25:10
SPEAKER_00: I'm glad Republicans are paying attention to it.
25:12
SPEAKER_00: I'm excited that Will's, you know, going to give it a good go.
25:17
SPEAKER_00: I've donated to his campaign.
25:19
SPEAKER_00: So I hope other people out there do as well.
25:22
SPEAKER_00: So that'd be my pitch for Will.
25:24
SPEAKER_00: I like the guy.
25:24
SPEAKER_00: I'm not running his race, not involved, just a lonely old donor.
25:30
SPEAKER_01: Now we go to the ones where you and I split on our predictions,
25:33
SPEAKER_01: but we sort of hedged at the end as we saw the money pour in.
25:38
SPEAKER_01: Congressional District 3, you had Maxine Dexter with over 50%.
25:43
SPEAKER_01: Did I get that right, Brian?
25:44
SPEAKER_01: Hold on, I'm switching over to federal.
25:46
SPEAKER_01: Over 50% in that primary for Congressional District 3.
25:50
SPEAKER_01: 47% now.
25:50
SPEAKER_01: 47-32 against Sushila Jayapal with Eddie Morales coming up third, 13%.
25:58
SPEAKER_01: percent i think spending decided this race you know brian i think there are some i
26:04
SPEAKER_01: was listening to opb's political podcast and uh they were talking to earl
26:08
SPEAKER_01: blumenauer about all the massive spending in this race and how bad it is and
26:13
SPEAKER_01: blumenauer said he thought dexter could have won it without the money that's you
26:16
SPEAKER_01: know that's maybe true but jaya paul's close enough there where it's really a
26:21
SPEAKER_01: question at that point it gets real competitive real fast
26:25
SPEAKER_00: Did you notice,
26:27
SPEAKER_00: and I'll answer your question on that with the money because I think that's interesting,
26:30
SPEAKER_00: but Dexter had a decisive lead.
26:34
SPEAKER_00: And then that late 30,000 vote dump from Multnomah County that came in, all Jayapal votes.
26:42
SPEAKER_00: which I thought was very interesting.
26:44
SPEAKER_00: So she really closed the gap there,
26:46
SPEAKER_00: um,
26:48
SPEAKER_00: in that scenario,
26:50
SPEAKER_00: which I thought was pretty interesting because Dexter had a,
26:52
SPEAKER_00: she was over 50% and then settled back down right after that late dump came in,
26:57
SPEAKER_00: I think was,
26:58
SPEAKER_00: I think she needed the money.
26:59
SPEAKER_00: I think 15 points in this race without.
27:04
SPEAKER_00: what,
27:04
SPEAKER_00: 600 grand coming in late and just pounding Jayapal on one side and then propping up
27:10
SPEAKER_00: Dexter at the end.
27:11
SPEAKER_00: I think, you know, the, the A, what was it?
27:15
SPEAKER_00: The, the APAC, APAC, right?
27:16
SPEAKER_00: The Jewish pact that came in and spent a bunch of money on that one.
27:19
SPEAKER_00: They, they were significant and I think it mattered.
27:23
SPEAKER_00: I think it really mattered.
27:25
SPEAKER_00: And you couldn't turn on Portland TV without either seeing something bashing
27:30
SPEAKER_00: Jayapal or something telling you about Dexter.
27:32
SPEAKER_00: So they clearly knew it was a two person race.
27:35
SPEAKER_00: Eddie Morales was never in the mix as this goes.
27:40
SPEAKER_00: So at least we were correct in picking the top two.
27:44
SPEAKER_00: I thought Jayapal was I thought she was going to get more support,
27:47
SPEAKER_00: to be honest,
27:47
SPEAKER_00: from the terrorist caucus.
27:50
SPEAKER_00: that her younger sister is a part of.
27:52
SPEAKER_00: And I thought,
27:53
SPEAKER_00: you know,
27:53
SPEAKER_00: she would get some of that,
27:55
SPEAKER_00: like even videos from AOC or,
27:58
SPEAKER_00: you know,
27:59
SPEAKER_00: to really dive into that left-wing contingent of voters,
28:02
SPEAKER_00: but that really never materialized.
28:04
SPEAKER_00: So I'm wondering if there was some issues that happened behind the scenes,
28:08
SPEAKER_00: it'd be great to know if there was something that Jayapal couldn't go and secure,
28:12
SPEAKER_00: uh,
28:13
SPEAKER_00: you know,
28:14
SPEAKER_00: Bernie Sanders,
28:15
SPEAKER_00: you know,
28:16
SPEAKER_00: AOC kind of stuff to bring them to the table because clearly Dexter was able to go
28:20
SPEAKER_00: get that.
28:21
SPEAKER_00: So I don't know.
28:23
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what happened there.
28:24
SPEAKER_00: And,
28:26
SPEAKER_00: but Eddie,
28:26
SPEAKER_00: Eddie,
28:27
SPEAKER_00: poor Eddie just,
28:28
SPEAKER_00: you know,
28:29
SPEAKER_00: isn't going to go anywhere,
28:29
SPEAKER_00: but he's still got a job as a city councilor.
28:32
SPEAKER_00: So he'll be all right.
28:34
SPEAKER_01: I think we'll see Eddie Morales again, almost certainly.
28:36
SPEAKER_01: And I think the squad, I think the problem with the squad is they've got fame, but they don't have money.
28:41
SPEAKER_01: They don't have money to spread around a lot of places.
28:43
SPEAKER_01: Only AOC and Bernie can raise real money, and a lot of the dollars, they flow elsewhere.
28:50
SPEAKER_01: I am obligated to point out,
28:53
SPEAKER_01: Brian,
28:53
SPEAKER_01: that technically the Israel PAC didn't endorse Dexter,
28:57
SPEAKER_01: but it sounds like a lot of their donors and money funneled to Dexter and funneled
29:02
SPEAKER_01: to this other group.
29:03
SPEAKER_01: to sort of keep the Israel thing off to the side of this particular race.
29:09
SPEAKER_01: But overall,
29:10
SPEAKER_01: I think this is a better outcome if you're pro Israel,
29:13
SPEAKER_00: because I think that's going to be more reasonable.
29:15
SPEAKER_00: Reagan money is a better endorsement than a title.
29:20
SPEAKER_00: A hundred percent.
29:24
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
29:24
SPEAKER_01: So then we go back to the results page and we scroll down and we go to
29:30
SPEAKER_01: The fourth district primary, Monique Despain, 48%.
29:33
SPEAKER_01: Amy Ryan Courser, 41%.
29:34
SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry.
29:38
SPEAKER_01: Monique Despain, 58%.
29:40
SPEAKER_01: Amy Ryan, 41%.
29:43
SPEAKER_01: That's about what we expected, probably a little closer.
29:46
SPEAKER_01: But I think Monique's probably trying to hold on to some cash,
29:49
SPEAKER_01: trying not to spend it all in the primary,
29:51
SPEAKER_01: knowing that she was out there a little bit more,
29:54
SPEAKER_01: had the backing of the kind of establishment Republicans and the endorsements,
29:58
SPEAKER_01: trying to conserve that cash for the fall battle with Val Boyle.
30:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
30:03
SPEAKER_00: this is one of those where when you look at turnout,
30:07
SPEAKER_00: too,
30:07
SPEAKER_00: this is where we start seeing depressed turnout,
30:10
SPEAKER_00: right?
30:11
SPEAKER_00: CD3 race, you know, had nearly 100,000 Democrat voters to Valhalla only getting 70,000 voters.
30:18
SPEAKER_00: So this just shows you like you got outside of that Portland metro area where there
30:22
SPEAKER_00: wasn't a contested primary race.
30:25
SPEAKER_00: and it just you know the turnout just went to nothing and and i think this one will
30:30
SPEAKER_00: be interesting i know the nrcc's tagged this one as a what is it plus 4d they've
30:35
SPEAKER_00: called it only so val oil's got a little bit of stink still or at least they're
30:40
SPEAKER_00: trying to create as much smoke as they can around the lamoda stuff and keep keep
30:44
SPEAKER_00: the fires flaming in that thing i think uh
30:48
SPEAKER_00: You know,
30:48
SPEAKER_00: Amy Ryan Courser,
30:51
SPEAKER_00: I think it's probably time to hang up the spurs,
30:53
SPEAKER_00: Amy,
30:54
SPEAKER_00: I think,
30:55
SPEAKER_00: and just call it a day.
30:57
SPEAKER_00: She's tried, unless she wants to go, which one did we say she hasn't ran for?
31:01
SPEAKER_00: One or two.
31:02
SPEAKER_00: I guess she could run for Cliff Bences at some point, so maybe she'll do that one.
31:06
SPEAKER_00: She's got two more to go.
31:08
SPEAKER_00: But Monique, it should be interesting to see what she does here.
31:11
SPEAKER_00: It was pretty,
31:12
SPEAKER_00: a lot closer than I thought it should have been because Monique spent a decent
31:16
SPEAKER_00: amount of money running
31:17
SPEAKER_00: Outraged Amy.
31:19
SPEAKER_00: So that's, I would think, a problem if I'm in that camp.
31:25
SPEAKER_00: I would be a little concerned about only doing a 58-41 camp.
31:31
SPEAKER_00: Republican win in that primary,
31:33
SPEAKER_00: I think,
31:34
SPEAKER_00: with somebody who spent a couple hundred thousand dollars versus Amy,
31:37
SPEAKER_00: you know,
31:37
SPEAKER_00: only raised 10 grand or so.
31:39
SPEAKER_00: So I think that would be concerning to me if I was a Republican.
31:43
SPEAKER_00: I think if you're Monique to Spain,
31:46
SPEAKER_00: you've got to figure out a way to shore up your base in a hurry if you're going to
31:50
SPEAKER_00: take a run at Valhalla.
31:51
SPEAKER_00: So we'll see what happens there.
31:55
SPEAKER_01: Brian, you mentioned Amy Ryan Courser needs to hang it up.
31:58
SPEAKER_01: Speaking of people who need to hang it up,
32:01
SPEAKER_01: Jamie McLeod Skinner, 29% got beat in her home base of Deschutes County.
32:09
SPEAKER_01: Brian, I don't know about you.
32:11
SPEAKER_01: This is an embarrassing loss.
32:15
SPEAKER_01: This is her fourth or fifth run.
32:17
SPEAKER_01: You're totaling her primaries in general elections.
32:21
SPEAKER_01: She can win a primary when she's got no opponent,
32:24
SPEAKER_01: but when she has real opposition,
32:25
SPEAKER_01: just like Secretary of State race four years ago,
32:29
SPEAKER_01: she just gets demolished.
32:31
SPEAKER_01: And I just think she needs to go to local.
32:34
SPEAKER_01: She needs to go to state legislature.
32:37
SPEAKER_01: Same thing with Art Robinson.
32:38
SPEAKER_01: Couldn't win a congressional race to save his life.
32:40
SPEAKER_01: Drops down to the state legislature, wins immediately, right?
32:42
SPEAKER_01: There's just – you've got to build –
32:45
SPEAKER_01: and not just an identity, but like a body of work.
32:48
SPEAKER_01: I think sometimes voters are looking for what have you done?
32:51
SPEAKER_01: And Jamie McLeod Skinner, all she's done is abuse her campaign staff.
32:55
SPEAKER_01: So I think that's a problem for her, honestly.
33:00
SPEAKER_01: Janelle Bynum is going to give the match that political consultants secretly wanted to see.
33:06
SPEAKER_01: The rematch between Bynum and Chavez Dreamer is on.
33:10
SPEAKER_01: That's going to be probably one of the most watched races in the country, Ryan.
33:14
SPEAKER_00: I think I think Jahun put on Twitter, who's the Lori Chavez Dreamers chief of staff said, bring it on.
33:22
SPEAKER_00: So I'm looking forward to that.
33:25
SPEAKER_00: I think a lot of people kind of wanted to see it.
33:27
SPEAKER_00: But I really think this is when the Democrat establishment even just said we've had
33:33
SPEAKER_00: enough of Jamie McLeod Skinner.
33:34
SPEAKER_00: But you're right.
33:35
SPEAKER_00: She did.
33:37
SPEAKER_00: Everybody loves a comeback story.
33:38
SPEAKER_00: Alex Strelatos won that House District 4.
33:41
SPEAKER_00: Nobody even ran against him, and now he's going to be in the Statehouse.
33:44
SPEAKER_00: He ran twice for Congress and didn't get anywhere and realized,
33:49
SPEAKER_00: uh-oh,
33:49
SPEAKER_00: maybe I need to start back at the bottom again.
33:53
SPEAKER_00: And Amy Ryan's probably done that.
33:54
SPEAKER_00: But the problem there is, you know, when you go to the statehouse level, it has to be where you live.
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SPEAKER_00: And then that could be a challenge.
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SPEAKER_00: So in regards to versus Congress,
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SPEAKER_00: where you can just kind of pick and choose as long as you live in the state.
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SPEAKER_00: So we'll see.
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SPEAKER_00: But I'm done with Jamie McLeod Skinner.
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SPEAKER_00: I hope that Oregon's done with Jamie McLeod Skinner.
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SPEAKER_00: And for my own world, I sure hope that Laurie Chavez Dreamer makes us done with Janelle Bynum.
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SPEAKER_00: But we'll see.
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SPEAKER_00: We'll see how the race translates over the course of time.
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SPEAKER_00: And that's going to be a barn burner.
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SPEAKER_00: That's the one thing for sure we know is both sides of the aisle think they can win that race.
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SPEAKER_00: And they will pour a ton of money into it.
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SPEAKER_00: And turnout's going to probably dictate that thing.
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SPEAKER_01: I agree with you there.
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SPEAKER_01: So now, just one more quick note.
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SPEAKER_01: The 6th Congressional District went exactly like we expected.
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SPEAKER_01: Salinas and Erickson did hardly anything, one going away.
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SPEAKER_01: You look at this one, 47,000 votes in the Democratic primary, 39,000 votes in the Republican primary.
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SPEAKER_01: The six could still be competitive in the fall.
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SPEAKER_01: And I hate saying that because I said before,
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SPEAKER_01: I didn't think that this one was going to be competitive,
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SPEAKER_01: but I'm looking at these numbers and going,
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SPEAKER_01: maybe it's still out there.
35:09
SPEAKER_01: So we'll see.
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SPEAKER_01: I think that race will have to develop.
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SPEAKER_01: We'll see how the polling goes.
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SPEAKER_01: We'll see how much money gets spent, but could come back.
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