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Episode 281: Be All My Sins Remember'd (SG-A 4.11) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Get in Agate episode two hundred and eighty one. We are
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  Speaker 1: talking some Stargate Atlantis in particular season four episode number eleven,
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  Speaker 1: And from what Maddie told me last week was the
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  Speaker 1: season mid season.
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  Speaker 2: Well back return.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't a two PARTA like he's always been a
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  Speaker 3: two PARTA in the past. There was the Storm in
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  Speaker 3: the I, then in season two there was the Hive
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  Speaker 3: and the Lost Boys with old mate Ford, and then
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  Speaker 3: season three was obviously the return.
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  Speaker 2: And this one, yeah, it wasn't really a two.
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  Speaker 3: Part The only sort of overflow from last episode to
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  Speaker 3: this one is, like I was saying last week, how
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  Speaker 3: it was all set up, like the whole season leading
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  Speaker 3: up to this point was all set up for this payoff.
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  Speaker 3: Is at the end of last week's episode we got
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  Speaker 3: the big giant flash drive that then you know they
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  Speaker 3: had the end because we can now track all the
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  Speaker 3: all the Aurora class ships in the Pegasus galaxy, and
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  Speaker 3: obviously that is part of the plan for what we
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  Speaker 3: see in this episode.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, though like not that I knew it at the time,
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  Speaker 1: it made sense with that sort of tease, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: very very much connected. And look, we'll get into the synopsis,
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  Speaker 1: but I mean the way that you said it was
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  Speaker 1: all payoff and I watched this, I'm like, oh shit, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there was some like big stuff going on, like massive
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  Speaker 1: battles and stuff, and I probably didn't even appreciate it
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  Speaker 1: while it was happening. It was probably a couple of
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  Speaker 1: minutes in. I'm like, hang on, no, this is a
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  Speaker 1: big This is actually a big thing that's happening right now. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of work that's gonet. There's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of money that's gone into this. I should probably pay
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  Speaker 1: pay some more respect to it, all right, be all
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  Speaker 1: my sins. Remembered as Taylor and Ronan evacuate humans from
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  Speaker 1: advancing replicator forces. McKay partners with a Wraith scientist to
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  Speaker 1: try to create a program to shut down the replicators.
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  Speaker 1: Writer Flood, Guero, director and him Keta.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, fun facts.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously we spoke about a couple of weeks ago about
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  Speaker 3: the wraith with a four letter name.
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  Speaker 2: You can say it now, well, no, because guess what,
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  Speaker 2: what wasn't him?
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  Speaker 1: So what wasn't him?
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  Speaker 2: That wraith was not?
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  Speaker 1: What doesn't matter you've named him, whether or not it
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  Speaker 1: is him.
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  Speaker 3: The man under all that Latex and prosthetics in this episode.
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  Speaker 3: In this episode, was not Hauling. Was not Christopher Hydol
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  Speaker 3: who has played that same Wraith since we met him
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  Speaker 3: in Common Ground, so playing the same character obviously, and
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  Speaker 3: Christopher hile Heidel then came in and did all the adr.
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  Speaker 1: Right very much saw him obviously in the in the
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  Speaker 1: in the credits.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, So he was unavailable while this episode was filming,
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  Speaker 3: so they got another guy named Brendan Penny who did
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  Speaker 3: all of this except for the scenes on the hive
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  Speaker 3: during the battle, because that's actually episodes from that's actually
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  Speaker 3: scenes from next week's episode where they flashed back to it.
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  Speaker 3: So every scene of the four letter named Wraith in
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  Speaker 3: this episode on Atlantis, all that kind of star of it,
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  Speaker 3: not not Hauling, not Christopher Hyde all was that kind
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  Speaker 3: of like what they did with Michael remember when old
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  Speaker 3: Mate he wasn't available for that one episode.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like with this one though, they got brave
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  Speaker 1: then because there were a lot of very still very
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  Speaker 1: close shot. I was looking and to be honest, this
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  Speaker 1: is I knew that, no, but like I'm looking at
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  Speaker 1: him and there was just something about the shape of
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  Speaker 1: his face that I thought, oh, you know, I probably
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  Speaker 1: never realized. They don't give him much chance for him
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  Speaker 1: to sit still. And I know what, Christopher Highadol Hidol,
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  Speaker 1: you know what his face looks like. This guy just
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  Speaker 1: looked like a little bit round.
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  Speaker 2: It, like around around the lips maybe and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: That's just the prosthetics.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I never picked up. Apparently not a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people picked it up in the episode.
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  Speaker 3: Wasn't until kind of after after it aired, in a
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  Speaker 3: long time after it aired, that they sort of brought
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  Speaker 3: that up and people were like, oh my god, So
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  Speaker 3: they did.
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  Speaker 2: A really really good job.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, got cha.
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  Speaker 3: And they did praise the Brendan Penny guy because something
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  Speaker 3: very important for him is obviously he's he had to
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  Speaker 3: give the performance like he was Christopher Hydol, so he
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  Speaker 3: had to work on the the pacing of the words
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  Speaker 3: and the right pause stuff, and they said he did
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  Speaker 3: that sort of pitch perfect. So that then when Christoph
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  Speaker 3: Heidel came in later after the performance had already been
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  Speaker 3: committed to film, he then did a d R in
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  Speaker 3: his voice over the top of it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I pretty impressed. I didn't know that. If you
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  Speaker 1: would have said, oh, what was the one big thing
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  Speaker 1: about this episod? I never would have say, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think so they come across.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but obviously we need to find out one thing first.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think?
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  Speaker 2: What what do you think?
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  Speaker 1: Hmmm? Nice in short this week? Yeah, no, like it
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  Speaker 1: was a good follow on from last week. Didn't see
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  Speaker 1: the team up happening like it was weird enough a
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  Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago to bring the Wraith to Earth.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know, this seems a bit
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  Speaker 1: like I can understand why that they would do it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't mean like I don't think this was a
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  Speaker 1: good narrative choice. I'm just like within the story, and
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  Speaker 1: then for this to be like you know what we
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  Speaker 1: need to do. We need to like go right into
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  Speaker 1: like the middle of a giant squadron and go in
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  Speaker 1: and talk to all them, reunite old mate with his
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  Speaker 1: friends and his allies, and just hope that they attempted
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  Speaker 1: enough with what we're offering that they don't just immediately
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  Speaker 1: come at us. Because and then I was getting a
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  Speaker 1: bit like oh, because then we're going to reveal that
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  Speaker 1: we're actually alive, And I'm like, no, that was like
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  Speaker 1: we're trying to get away from I mean, obviously we
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  Speaker 1: don't want the rape to know where we are, but
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  Speaker 1: you know from that sort of in the past and
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  Speaker 1: past and then with the replicators obviously trying to destroy
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  Speaker 1: us at the end of last season, like everybody knows
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  Speaker 1: we're fine, like people people know we're there, and we're
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  Speaker 1: out there, and then on top of someone else that
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  Speaker 1: already knows is my beloved Laren and she shows back
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  Speaker 1: up to Now, mind you, that was one second where
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  Speaker 1: I like had my eyes diverted a little bit, but
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  Speaker 1: then when they pop out and they just start receiving it.
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  Speaker 2: When what popped out, mate, it was all above board.
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  Speaker 1: And inside the pants and he hears female voice, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: am I supposed to know who that is? And you
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  Speaker 1: see a shepherd like Laren and I'm like, oh shit, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And then she pops up on the screen. I'm like, hello, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she still got that Like it's not like the first
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  Speaker 1: time I saw her. It was just like this sort
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  Speaker 1: of like I don't know, oozing sort of style and
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  Speaker 1: sexiness or anything. But you know, she's still she's still
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  Speaker 1: got the power over shep but that's a lot. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was.
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  Speaker 3: It was a little overt when she was like, oh, no,
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  Speaker 3: one can find my drones quite like you, John, And
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, come on, you know.
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  Speaker 1: We do when double one tundras out here, sorry not singles.
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  Speaker 3: You don't know you have to work that hard, like
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  Speaker 3: when when you look like that, you don't have to
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  Speaker 3: try that hard.
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  Speaker 2: To get a man's attend.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe that's part of the game, making them feel like
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  Speaker 1: she still has to.
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  Speaker 3: I suppose Varlet does the same thing, doesn't she. That's true,
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  Speaker 3: Varlett doesn't need to try as hard as she does,
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  Speaker 3: but yeah, no fair cal uh. Fun fact on Laren though,
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  Speaker 3: is her little offsider crewman lieutenant guy that was kind
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  Speaker 3: of like watching the door and was with her, not
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  Speaker 3: the two that were holding up the guns. He was
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  Speaker 3: kind of cut out. But that guy played young Daniel
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  Speaker 3: in two hundred, where they did like the the young
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  Speaker 3: edgy version of s G One where where Varla was like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm pregnant and there was.
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  Speaker 2: The dude in the do rag and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: He was in this.
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  Speaker 3: He was one of the traveler species travel erase, which
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  Speaker 3: I thought was a bit of a fun.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know, especially especially being Daniel, Like it's
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  Speaker 1: a bit different, and I know it wasn't. It's not
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  Speaker 1: like Michael Shanks showing back up. But yeah, when you
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  Speaker 1: when you when you split. I mean in Finnis, I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't you know if she was if he was near
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  Speaker 1: Lara and I wasn't looking at.
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  Speaker 2: Him, Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it sounded like a pig.
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  Speaker 3: No matter where Daniel goes, you can't avoid like Varla
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  Speaker 3: or Lara and the two just most aggressively aggressive sexual
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  Speaker 3: women in both universes. Yeah, I wonder what would happen
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  Speaker 3: if those two men. I wonder if they'd be instant
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  Speaker 3: enemies or instant besties. I feel like they'd be besties.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like they were just yeah, would.
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  Speaker 1: She kill Val? Really? One thing I feel like in hindsight,
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  Speaker 1: getting to the end of the episode, or towards the end,
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  Speaker 1: I realized I didn't pay enough attention to was them
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  Speaker 1: talking about, you know, the their little liquid replicator stuff
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  Speaker 1: going on.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, well, that they became friends, yes, friend yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't understand that the science mumbo
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  Speaker 1: jumbo and they're sitting there and they're they're reshaping it.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't I don't know why you do it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care. And then at the end where Zelenka
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  Speaker 1: well he's like, hey, look, you know, no, no, Rodney
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  Speaker 1: brought them in? Who brought who in?
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, Rodney brought the link.
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  Speaker 3: Zelinka had to go away when the cube was failing,
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  Speaker 3: Zelenka was called the way to help with something else, right,
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  Speaker 3: and then when he came back, by then Rodney had
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  Speaker 3: already created friend.
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  Speaker 2: And she's in the same way.
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  Speaker 3: We talk about a lot of the things where it's
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  Speaker 3: like certain ways characters in this show have said things
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  Speaker 3: that we continue and add into our real lives. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: friends saying hello. Yeah, that's a vocal stym for me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, especially at the end where you know,
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  Speaker 1: I guess some of the main characters are going to
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  Speaker 1: be worried that she's going to get into the realm
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  Speaker 1: of the replicators and go assimilate and just become one
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  Speaker 1: of them. But when she walks in, she's surrounded by them,
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  Speaker 1: they don't detect anything bad coming from her because she's,
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  Speaker 1: you know, technically one of them, and she's just looking
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  Speaker 1: at them hello, And I'm like, oh, that's cold. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're so cold. Yeah. But then I feel like I'm
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  Speaker 1: jumping ahead to talk about it, so I really I
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  Speaker 1: really shouldn't, but you know, once. Yeah, Rodney brought them
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  Speaker 1: back in and was like, look, you're not gonna like it,
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  Speaker 1: but you just have to listen to why I did this.
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  Speaker 1: It was only where I could go and there's this
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  Speaker 1: woman sitting there and I'm like, yes, oh shit, okay,
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  Speaker 1: this is this is different than just building a cube,
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  Speaker 1: and it is.
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  Speaker 3: It does kind of throw back to what we were
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  Speaker 3: talking about last week in that, you know, Carter had
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  Speaker 3: that moment where she was very uncomfortable. She's like she
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  Speaker 3: talks about having an element of sensions and that kind
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  Speaker 3: of thing, and it kind of throws back to us, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: like Carter was concerned but was okay with a small
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  Speaker 3: block of cells, but the second it had human form
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  Speaker 3: and self awareness, yeah, she was a little a little
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: more hesitant. And then Rodney had the line of it
• 10:50
  Speaker 3: it's like, well you don't feel sorry for your bullets,
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  Speaker 3: like and all that kind of thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, I mean, and like we were saying
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  Speaker 1: last week, you think about the difference between how we
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: felt about the replicators when they were just little spider
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  Speaker 1: machines to them, when you had the human replicators or
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: on SG one and when you know, all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden you've got her face and what you know, six whatever?
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  Speaker 1: That what was the bloke that fifth sixth? I'm actually
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  Speaker 1: embarrassed by that. I'm very sorry fifth, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: them just having a little bit more like oh, but
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  Speaker 1: he seems like maybe he's not lying, and that he's sympathetic,
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  Speaker 1: and that the other guy at the head of the
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  Speaker 1: table he was the evil one because again they look human,
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  Speaker 1: and this guy was a softer looking man than the
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: guy that was in charge shitting at the head of
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  Speaker 1: the table.
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  Speaker 2: He was older in British and whites.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, of course he's evil. They played great bad guys.
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  Speaker 1: And then you get in this one. You get this young,
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  Speaker 1: youthful looking woman with big eyes, friendly smile, and you're like, oh, yeah,
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: well she's she's fine. It's like, what about she's literally
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: the same as those other people, Like there's just as
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: much damage. If it's a human, you've got to kind
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  Speaker 1: of brainwash them. This like is programming. You could do
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  Speaker 1: that in half a second, and she's going to turn,
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: you know, terminator. She was already a T one thousand,
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  Speaker 1: for Christ's sake, liquid liquid metal. But yeah, I realized, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this is completely different than where I thought maybe this
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  Speaker 1: was going and then holy god, like where she walked
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  Speaker 1: in that room and hallo and just starts destroying it, right, okay,
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  Speaker 1: well she starts sucking them off your words, not mine,
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  Speaker 1: emitting some kind of frequency or whatever, and they start
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  Speaker 1: like getting dusted like thanos, but it's like, oh no,
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  Speaker 1: they're actually becoming part of her.
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  Speaker 3: And then and that was part of her idea, Like
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  Speaker 3: remember she was at one point she was helping Rodney saying,
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: I think you've underestimated what's going to happen. Yeah, it's
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: going to happen at this time, and where he had
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: to come up with the idea to detonate all those
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: these EPMs.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yah yeah, And then it looked like it was
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: starting to form something over her, Like if if she
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: was not what it was, I would have went, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's forming like a suit of armor. It was essentially
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  Speaker 1: just an extension of herself. But then like that was
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  Speaker 1: last we see of her. When that when that when
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  Speaker 1: that liquid seems to start covering her again, but it
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  Speaker 1: keeps continuing. And then when it has that wide shot
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  Speaker 1: from the from the sky and you're just seeing all
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  Speaker 1: this like the dusting happening being you know I was
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  Speaker 1: gonna say suck, but transferred from one building or multiple
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: other buildings into where she was in the central tower,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, And obviously I'm going
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: to sound like x men. I'm like, she's becoming Omega.
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: Level replicator the Godzilla references, like, we're back to Godzilla
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  Speaker 3: if it starts being able to.
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  Speaker 2: Control its form.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's that moment there where when Rodney couldn't detonate
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  Speaker 3: the zz pms and it's like the tentacle started like coming.
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  Speaker 2: Out of of the big blob and like it was
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  Speaker 2: starting to regain some kind of control.
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  Speaker 1: She's so it is so heavy now, the waight is
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  Speaker 1: the mass is so great. It's actually starting to sink into.
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  Speaker 2: The core of the planet.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god. Anybody just this giant, giant city size mass,
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  Speaker 1: like it just wow flubber from hell.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then for it to have to stop the way
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  Speaker 1: that it did, and then the bombs and all that
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  Speaker 1: sort of suff I'm like, even that, the frantic I
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: don't think we've ever seen Rodney in such a and
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: such a panic of trying to fix the situation in
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  Speaker 1: like a moment's notice, he said, was it this week
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: or last week, how we threw and last week No
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: thrives under pressure, drives underressure of the race, Like well, how
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: about I threatened to eat you? Yeah, you're not joking.
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  Speaker 1: And yet in this there was such pressure and yeah
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  Speaker 1: he did thrive, but I've never seen him so panicked,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think before then this going, Oh, all of
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  Speaker 1: this is going the way that we thought it would,
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  Speaker 1: just not as big as we thought it would or
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: as dangerous as whatever it might have been. It was
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: just that was crazy. And then all you know, it
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: was kind of a bit like you know, the you know,
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: prequel Star Wars, where there was just three big things
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: happening at once, and we're going from that thing happening
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: down there into the control room where Rodney's trying to
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: fixed shit back up into space and we've got this
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: huge battle going on, and then what's happening inside one
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: of the ships. It was just shit happening all over
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: the place. Like it's kind of insane that you like
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: you said, oh, it wasn't the mid season finale. They
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: saved it all so that it could be the beginning
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: of the second half of the season. I'm like, Okay,
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: that's It's one thing for me to watch. I do
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: get to watch an episode next week. But I wonder
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: whether if you had to wait, you know, the two
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: months or whatever it might have been to watch this
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: episode when it's happening live to get this. What do
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: you think is that the rest of the season is
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: going to be.
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, given that it wasn't really a to be continued
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: last week, it was just the it was fun with
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: the first time we've kind of had the talking over
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: the black of.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: The QBBB people, Oh we are a screw? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Do you have any idea what kind of a security threat?
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: This says, it's not as bad as you think.
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: I stripped down its programming as much as I possibly
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: could without sacrificing basic viability. It can walk, it can talk,
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: but it can't replicate or change its form or anything.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: Does she know why she was created? Of course, wasn't
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: She has a certain amount of self awareness.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so so.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm not sure how comfortable I am sending her
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: to her death death.
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: It can't die, it's not alive, and it's a program.
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: I mean, consciousness is just a bunch of ones and
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: zeros and you can call it she all you want,
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: but it's still just a thing. It's a it's a prop,
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: it's a it's a really advanced radio control weapon. I mean,
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: you don'teel sure if your bullets do any of your bombs.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: All right, It's still.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: It's weird, you know.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: I feel like that scene also didn't age very well
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: in the fact that Carter openly misgendered Fran several times there, you.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Know, even just that isolated line where he's like, you
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: can call it a she all you want, it is
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: still an it. It is still a thing. I'm like, ooh,
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: it's funny.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: I remember when sort of that conversation became much more
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: prevalent in society. It's and I was always like, what
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: is wrong with it? As opposed to like, you know,
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: they then being the preferred the preferred tone.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like, yeah, there is a there is
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: a stigma against you know.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: Because a lot of the you know, it's gone to
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: woke and stuff, are you know, still on the all
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: though thems plural, you know, and it is the singular,
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: and to a degree, it's like I get that, but yeah,
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: I do feel like it has been saved for something
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: that's not human not yeah, and that's the negative connotation
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: to it. Why why someone who's you know, a non
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: binary or anything like that doesn't feel comfortable using it?
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: And why and they had to become a more prominent
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: to our pronoun.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I see why people when they are like they like
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: they refer to proprior to it becoming, like you said,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: a much more used term pronoun whatever that you know.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: They oh, so it was a group of people, it's
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: two or more people, they them that group over there,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: whatever it might be. So then it gets it's that word.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Those words get not repurposed entirely, but by a lot
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: of people to represent something because there is no other
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: word that exists. It's like, I think for the fairness
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: of those people that use it, those terms, they do
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: need their own word because then people don't use it
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: to get You can't some that's newly created. You can't
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: go well, hang on, you stole that, you've repurposed that
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: because no, no, hey, you're upset, you're offended that we use
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: they them as not a group, but for an individual
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: that doesn't you know, identify where then created our own word.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: You can't get angry. They will get angry because people
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: get angry.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: We've got no problem calling ice cube ice cube or
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: iced tea iced tea, or Stephanie German or the Lady Gaga.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: But it's like you can't make up words like Z
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: and Z.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: We're not going to use.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Them, you know. Yeah, it's weird. It's weird.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: But a great thing that someone explained it to me is,
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: you know, if you have trouble with the day, then
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: pronoun it's well, because they're both, they're both and there neither,
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: so it's you know, it's they're both a he and
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: a she.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Hence they that so it is a group.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: I mean that that would assume that there are only
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: two to be correct, So I'll go I won't necessarily
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: jump into that, but yeah, but I agree with it,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: like it. I think people use that as a as
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: a derogatory, yes offensive thing to go, oh, well you're
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: not identify you're you're an It's like now couples settled down. Mate.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Having said that, when you know you're having a baby
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: and you don't know what it is it, you know,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: is the reference that you have to.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: A it's a boy, yeah, a girl?
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Rather because you don't get around talking about well
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: maybe you do, so the baby I don't know. Like
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: I've had four kids, but I can't actually remember what
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: happened only the first two. So it's been at least
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: ten and a half years since I've had I've had
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: a baby growing. My wife's been pregnant where we didn't
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: know what what the bub was going to be, and
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I can't remember how we referred to it. It would have
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: probably been it's thrown around. But it's almost like, well,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: that's just a it doesn't apply. It's not offensive when
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: it's a baby that we don't know, because.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: There's also it's not really a human yet either it's
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: a fetus.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean we can speak an abortion all so
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I yeah, and exactly, I know that that brings up
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: a whole other obversation. It's like, well, yeah, is it
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: or isn't it?
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: And you know, I saw I saw a real like
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: snotty TikTok that was Hilarious's this girl just like doing
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: her makeup? And she's like, uh, if a phoenix is
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: a baby, then why doesn't child supports start at conception?
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: If Phoenis is a baby, why if you if you
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: hit a woman who's pregnant.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Why isn't it child abuse?
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: It just went through just these massive lists and wrong,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: oh mic dropping.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Not wrong, It was so good.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Or they've been people like you know, you've had
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: comedians in the past and whatever, just people that make
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: make comment and they say, well, if you're you're against
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: the idea of you know, birth control, abortion rights and all
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: that sort of stuff, because you're like, that is a child,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: it's like cool, they care about the baby until it's born.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: It's like on your own, give it up for adoption. Okay, well,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: who's an adopted not my problem anymore, chuck it into
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: the system. The fact that the.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: United States has those like stop drop and roll like
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: doors in fire stations where there's there's literally that thing
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: where you can just like drop down this door and
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: just put your baby in like a in like.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: A post it's like a post office door thing. If
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: you want to abandon your childhood.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: There are worse things that people in a very very
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: desperate and confused state, scared, frightened position have been post berth.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: You know, things happen, but.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: So at least that service or that it does help
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: with that does exist, Like if that person was allowed
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: to get you know, the kind of medical treatment they
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: needed prior.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: If they wanted it, at least have it available.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, she's recovering some areas and be all my sins remembered.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: But let's lighten the mood a little bit, so boarships.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: At the same time, this is the first.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: It was the first time we've needed them, well since
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: I've been here.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Colonel, Colonel, colonels colonel.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Seriously, just like, yeah, how long is this going to
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: keep on going? Yeah? So good And it was so great,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: just like and that was probably where the it being
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: a mid season return pays off, because you're getting welcome
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: back to all these characters that you know consistently there
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: are in every episode, and then all of a sudden,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Ellis and Corbell show up together. Yeah, oh ship. The
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: full band is terrified.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: With that being that you beam in and there's this
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: another man just standing like a foot from your face,
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: dead eye contact with each other.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like it would have been within your right saying
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: oh they come from the same place. They were just
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: in the middle of a talk. It's like no, no, no,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: they were just as surprise to see each other as
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: we were to see them.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Well done to both their ships for beaming him in
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: at the exact same point as.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Well, perfect perfect timing too, Like so the VVX didn't
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: even have to like, you know, double up the layers
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: of it. It's so helpful, so helpful, and you know,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: some great conversations had between them all. And I know
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Ellis is sitting there just getting you know, he's giving
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Rodney an absolute server the.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Toxicity of just the line, the the like a man.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: You couldn't come here and tell us like a man.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, that is the most military thing
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: I've ever heard in my entire life.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: And I then like to then I get it. He's
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: in the like, Okay, Rodney is, but he's still got that,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: you know, like I know he's a military scientist or whatever,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: but I still see him as being a little bit
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Daniel Jackson esquare. He's civilian, he is, but he's still civilian.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: And so I get the understanding that, you know, a
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: colonel may be pissed off with him like Ellis and
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: then look at another colonel like Carter and go, oh god,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: how annoying is that piece of shit? And she really
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: didn't think the same way.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Oh god, it's so good. I don't understand how you
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: guys put up. If you ever talk like that to
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: someone under my command again, you will not be welcome
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: on this base.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Colonel.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Is that clear? Yes, that is good.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: We're done here.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Thank you now. Being a bigger parent, but I have
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: seen that, like when my kids have been rude and
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I give them a what for that Like ellis the
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: way that he sort of looked up to her and
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, I've upset, But the way that he
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: answered her without really moving his mouth. So when she said,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: do you understand it? Yes, I do. And I've seen
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: my kids do that. You know, if they've been rude
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: to their mom or something like that, you know they've
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: hit each other. The boys are rude to their little sister,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: just a little little triggering things that happened to the house,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: and I give him a what for. Just they're just
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: looking at me like, yeah, I've messed up. I'm just
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: going to talk and I'm not going to move my
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: face because that night fishure an man do that in
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: this show, which.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Is brilliant because she got quiet and direct. There wasn't
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: a yell the like can you imagine freaking General Landry
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: like he would have just you know, he would have
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: taken his leather jacket off before you know, and just.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: He would have been brought on a heart attack.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he would have done the Henry Cavill double pump
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: and then he would have started in on Ellie.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I would love to see Bob bumps, but I didn't
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: see that in my head. And he's still got his
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: long shirt tucked in with the tie on. Yeah, yeah,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: it's amazing.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But yeah, just the fact that Carter got so
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: quiet and like that's when you know you've done. Like
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: it's just it's just yeah, it was. It was so good.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I the the.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: I'm evil Homer part of me really wishes Brennan was
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: here just to find out.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: I feel like he would have loved that moment.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: But had that been with weird moment, oh well, actually
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: my reproductive organs on the inside instead of the outside of.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: The woman talking to a colonel or a colonel and
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: you know what, he'd be right because she isn't a colonel,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: just like Carter. No, she's even better.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Number five.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, you've actually got a thing for that.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Aaron Tola was correct.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: The planet has been completely destroyed. Can you detect any
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: trace replicatorselves.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Negative, they've been completely wiped down.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Good.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: I can finally get to work without having to look
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: over our shoulders.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: It's time to begin.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know absolutely can had a little bit
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: of a cliche line that last one. That's not her
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: fault but zero yeah, yeah, sure absolutely, but yeah, okay,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: so that I don't think it would be a while
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: since something as I think some monumentally it doesn't change anything,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: but like a big question mark like that has been
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: certainly me first time a big question has been asked
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: like that in such a short amount of time. Like again,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I thought we're ending with the scene previous and it
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: goes back. Did it cut to black baby? Then pop
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: back up and there you're looking at the scattered remains?
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Yes, So he Rodney deleted the planet out of the
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: system and we kind of went into the screen and
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: it dissolved and the pixels became the de from.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: And as soon as you see the debreed, I'm like, oh, okay,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: so something's alive. Okay, great, here we go. We go
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: through and then you eventually see this ship and the
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: ominous tone that pops up, and I'm like, was that
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: did they some of them become that like, you know,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: what where? What are we about to look for? And
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: then none of these other characters did I recognize? And
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: then you're seeing this body that's but the head is
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: being hidden. I'm like, Okay, who's going to be in
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: charge here? Did not expect Elizabeth? Yeah, so like you can't,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: well you can. I'm sure you could give me one
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: answer if it's if it's the case. If it's a
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: different answer, I'll say. If it's no, you could be
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: like nah, But if it's a yes, you could be
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: like I couldn't possibly say, We'll have to find out.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: But I'm looking at that guy like is this original Weir?
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Is this original half replicator Weir? Or is this just
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: another copy? Or is this what last week's Weir that
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: didn't sacrifice herself? Was she evil the whole time? Was
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: she repurposed? Like I don't know. There was just so
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: much going on and it was in like twelve seconds.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then cut to black and then you get
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: and special appearance by Tory Higginson Like that even saved
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: her credit till after the appearance, so didn't go away.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: But it's a blink and you'll miss it. But if
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: you look very closely at what she's wearing. She's wearing
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: the new Atlantis uniform that she never got I've obviously
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: got in we might see in the video here. I've
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: got my little Elizabeth season one Elizabeth figurine that I
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: brought in last week as well.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: She only ever wore that uniform. The new one with
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: the colors just on the shoulders was for season four.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: So if you look very close to what she's wearing,
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: she's wearing a leather version of the new uniform and
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: has the red command pieces, so she's wearing like an
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: updated She's basically wearing a black leather version of Taylor's jacket.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: So as the first time, it would be far safer
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: and far more accurate to assume that it is last
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: week's like copy, because she's the only one that's come
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: across those new uniforms. What is from what I know
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: so far.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: I.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Would like to save it.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: And this will be somewhat of a spoiler, but I
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: feel like this is the most appropriate time to address
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: it is that this is the final appearance of Tory
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Higginson in Stargates. It may not necessarily be the end
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: of Elizabeth weird storyline, right, but this is the last
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: appearance of Tory Higginson in stargame.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Certainly some answers there.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Yes, I do have a couple of things that I
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: can read.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Like part of me really wants to be pissed off
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: that you said that, but I'm so shocked by it
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: that I actually I'm not angry at all.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Just because we don't in any of those questions you
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: just asked me. I don't believe we ever get an answer,
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: and that's why I kind of wanted to say it
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: to you that way.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Well, so she's almost like a puppet master for the
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: for the foreseeable future. That's why Elizabeth continued.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: I would say, else, we don't get a resolution to
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: those questions you asked in terms of who was that?
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Who was that that we saw? Was that the Elizabeth
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: from last week? Is it our original Elizabeth? Is it
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: a complete replicator Elizabeth? I don't believe we get an
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: answer to those questions. So I'll get into some stuff
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: that I've got here for you.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: That is.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: It is spoiler free in regards. It doesn't ruin anything
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: for the show going forward, but it provides a little
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: bit of context in terms of the behind the scenes
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: and Tory and all that kind of stuff, And yeah,
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: I just feel like this is the best time to
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: address because I almost feel like, because of what happened
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: behind the scenes, this storyline is kind of dropped and
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: abandoned in a way, because I think the production was
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: counting on Tory, because much like when Ford was written
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: out of the show at the end of season one,
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: his contract for season two was, you're a recurring character
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: and we're giving you four episodes. So we did the
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: first episode he did Runner, and then did the two parter.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: Tory got the same deal, so she finished up at
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: the end of season three. She was given four episodes
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: for this season. She did the first two episodes of
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: the season and then she did this Mortal Coil and
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: be all my six So contractually she's done.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: So I'll read you some of the stuff.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: This is from a Joseph Malatzi blog post in two
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: thousand and eight.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Geez, you've done some research.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: I certainly have. I hate it, but I went in
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: too Reddit and I found it. Weir's role was actually
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: I can't read it.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: We need it. We need a little bit of mood music.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Can you played on a six please? Mitch?
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, piece off.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: You just just play it lightly.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Where do I know this from?
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: This is where would be Sarah McLaughlin.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just feel like I've seen it, you know,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: used for this reason in a movie or TV. So
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to think of what the most mainstream
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: thing might be.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know anyway.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Weir's role was originally envisioned as a parallel to the
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Hammond role in SG one, and so unlike the team,
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: it was an intended that she head off World every episode,
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: like it or not, the character of Weir was indented
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: to play a supporting role to that to that of
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: the team. Still, while Brad was running Atlantis, he was
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: very supportive and protective of the character, working hard to
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: make sure she got her fair share of stories and
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: to suggest otherwise it's not only disingenuous, but a slap
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: in the face of the guy who was the driving
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: force behind episodes like Before I Sleep, the Real World
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: and Long Goodbye.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Tory was always trying to bring more to Weird.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: During those pauses, she was frustrated on how Weir was
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: being written and she wasn't being active instead was passive,
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: So how could she be a leader in an interview
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: with gate World, Tory, Higginson said, I think that my
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: character we never found a place for her. I think
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: that everybody can take a bit of a responsibility for that,
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: obviously myself included. So yeah, I imagine that was it.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: They thought, here's this woman character that we're not really
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: able to explore to her full right. So many of
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: the episodes I was just there in the background, which
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: was challenging, which wasn't challenging for me, And they were going,
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: why are we paying this chick when she's only in
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: it for a couple of scenes, you know what I mean?
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: It made a lot of sense.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: I thought, that's how I hypothesized it. So it made
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: a lot of sense to me. And this is where
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: it gets a little bit gross.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Ah.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: A decision came down following season three, coinciding with Wright's
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: own role in the series diminishing to reduce Weir's character dramatically. Originally,
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: producers wanted to make We're a recurring character, but Higginson
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: instead chose to leave the show. In a live chat
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: in the two thousand and eighth Thing, Higginson record the
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: story I found out because I kept going to them.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: I kept going to them saying, I have a feeling
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: my character. You're not doing anything with me, and you
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: guys have me for six years. So they all signed
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: a six year contract when.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: This show started.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: WHOA, And I don't want to, you know, be here
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: not doing anything. Let me know what's going on. And
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: they kept saying no, no, no, it's great. We love you,
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: we love you. Things can be great. And I said, well,
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: if that's the case, can we do something with her?
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: And they kept reassuring me that nothing. The very last
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: day of filming Season three, as I finished filming the
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: last scene on the day, I was called up to
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: the office and was told my character was going to
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: be to become recurring if I chose to be.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: So I thought that was not.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Very dignified way to deal with it, and I was
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: a bit surprised. So my reaction was one of yeah,
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: I was a little bit surprised.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: I was a little bit upset by how it was dealt.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: With because I wasn't upset at the decision because I
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: understood it. I kept going to them and saying, I
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: get it, I get what's going to happen. Just give
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: me some notice so I can pack my apartment and
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: move back to LA. So I wasn't upset with the decision.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: I was upset with how it was handled. Um wow,
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: I talk for the whole song.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Here we Go. I thought I'd bring it back.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Um.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: So that was in two thousand and seven, then in
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: two thousand and eight. This is transcribed from an interview
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: she did in late January two thousand and eight. Ummm.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: The interviewer asks, do you miss her? So this is
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: after she's done all this stuff. Do you miss her
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: as a character now that you haven't played her for
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: a while. Is she someone you think about or is
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: it just another role that you've moved on from? And
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: Tory said no, I definitely think about her. I mean,
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: and I think especially because this last year it's been
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: so strange.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: I haven't known if I'm coming back or not. There's
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: been no.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Clarity as far as where her story goes, so that's
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: been really hard to put to. Yeah, she crosses my
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: mind a lot, and I wish her well. For all
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: I know, she'll be back again next year with a
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: redhaired actress playing her, the joke being that she started
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: out blonde, yeah, and then to it yeah. The interviewer
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: then asks, have you heard any more about whether you're
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: going to be asked back, and Tori says, honestly, well, actually,
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: I'll just come in. I'll just come out in the
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: open now, I think I can say it. I'm not
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: coming back. They did come to me and asked me
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: to come back this year, meaning season five, but it
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: was very unclear as to what it was going to be.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: They were going to well, what they were going to
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: ask me to do. It was unclear as to if
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: it was going to be tidying up her or if
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: it was going to continue to be a.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Vague is she there? Is she not?
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: And so that mixed with other contractual things, I chose
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: not to do it. And it was sort of tough
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: because I felt a sense of responsibility and mostly towards
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: the fans. I wanted to give them a sense of closure,
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: and I felt that I was sort of being betraying
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: not by saying no to do it, but I didn't
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: feel it was going.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: To be closure.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: I wasn't convinced it was going to be tiding her up.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: So I felt, well, then if you're just going to
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: continue this sort of vague dragging on every year, and
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: I wanted clarity and I thought at the end of
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: the day, however much fans might be disappointed and not
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: to have her in it for another episode, I think
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: they would appreciate my reasons.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Why, I hope so hmm.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's why I think, in answer to the
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: questions you had, the reason we don't get a resolution
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: to that is because I don't think the production were
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: able to tell the story they wanted to in what
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: they set up in this cliffhanger, because yeah, there's no
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: mention of this in the rest of this season. It
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: was always going to be their plan to do something
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: for next season, and they asked Tory back, and Tory declined.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, at that point, it's like she's got
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: the power. But because she's played the character for long
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: enough that you can't just recast, you can certainly do
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: something with iman. The fact that, again we'll look at
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: that and go, she's a replicator, a replicator issue or
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Jason whatever that she could turn into somebody else. But
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: surely that image, the Tory Higginson image of Elizabeth Weir,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: is the power that she can have over If that
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: was if that was the intent to have the power
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: over the SGA team, we.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Had to have the previous leader of the mission suddenly
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: potentially be I mean, we don't really know what she
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: was about to begin on her Aurora class. We don't
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: know like what the plan was, whether it was going
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: to be whether she was going to rebuild the replicators
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: or if you know what the plan was, whether she
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: was going to be an adversaria kind of she sounded
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: very sinister, yes, you know, but that was.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: That all on the delivery because she's like, this is
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: my final line, because I'll never see you again.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and obviously we haven't seen Oberroth in a while,
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: and presumably Oberoth was destroyed when the planet was destroyed,
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: and there's there's no way to get him back now,
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: like you know, every replicator has been destroyed.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, yeah, wow, oh yeah, like even just
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: you know, the Omega style of like I said, you know,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: just dusting all those replicators on the planet. But then
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: when they actually all started to like come from the ships,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: holy shit, they're done. Like that's that's seemingly like that's.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was it. They they kind of wrapped
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: up the replica the Azurin Replicator storyline, I.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Mean, thank god, Yeah.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Very quick. If you think about it. We're only introduced
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: at the beginning of season two, so it has felt longer.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Though I think that is.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: A long It's two and a half seasons, not consistently obviously,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: but can.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: You imagine, if you know, the end what the middle
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: of season four? Actually, no, I think it was probably
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: season five was by the time we never saw a
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: p office again, now, you know. But he died several
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: times and came back and came back with the face
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: plate and all that.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: And he was like one there from the start, and
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: we love Tim and all that as oppose the replicators going,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: aren't you just like a kind of a copy of
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: something that we didn't like on the other show?
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: So wow, okay, well, yeah, that that flaws me, to
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: be honest.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's why I wanted to talk about it
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: here rather than you know, any other episode where there
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: may be some kind of allusions to this. I thought, well,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: you know, given that.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: You could have had me on a string mate, right, dangled.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: Little carrot, just it's the series finale, Tory's back.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I just I wanted to address it here
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: because it's yeah, like I said, like I said last week,
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: you know, we're is my favorite Atlanta's character, and Tory
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: is the main reason of that.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: So and narratively speaking for the characters, I guess the
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: last time they saw even the face of Weir and
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: not there Weir, they knew that, but we're making a
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: sacrifice play for them. Yeah, like that's their last time
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: they'll ever see it. And like you said, so okay,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: and you said, oh, we the Elizabeth Weird story continues,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: but not Tory Higgins. You just mean, like obviously that
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: character just exists out there or there's.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: There are references to Elizabeth Weir.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, next season, Oh well, I'll cover it then.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I guess. I guess what I can say with I
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: guess some type of certainty is that, yeah, that's the
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: last without Toy being there, that's the last time that
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: they'll have seen her, and that she did not which
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: I didn't mention it last week, I don't think. But
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: while we said the idea of these these clones or
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: copies or cyborgs, whatever it might be in any movies
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: and TV shoe like they are these people and then
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden they just have to accept it.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: They these guys kind of accepted it pretty quick like
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: they sort of said, Okay, it's a shame that they
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: get to go back to their lives in Atlantis and
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: we remember all of that, but they're like, okay, well
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: let's just jump on in and like it was a conversation.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: We didn't really see a lot of we didn't have
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: any heroics at a final moment for them to sort
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: of farewell even the episode, let alone their place in
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: the story, in that fictional world, and for that now
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: to in hindsight go, well, that was the last time
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: we see Tory Higginson as a weir that our characters
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: like respect like and acknowledge.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well they kind of in a way, Like especially
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: I feel like Rodney and John they kind of got
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: to say goodbye to Elizabeth in last week's episode. They
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: kind of you know, I think at one point Rodney
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: kind of apologizes or John apologizes for not rescuing her
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: and she's been like, well that didn't happen.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: And then Rodney at the end, Like Rodney has certainly
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: shown he can be emotional and he does actually care
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: for people, but when he's getting snappy, it's just go
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: continue to going back to last week, you know, having
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: a having a cry to Zelenka and yeah, saying this
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: is back it all over again. Yeah, and you're like,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: oh shit, man, that really affected you, Like we know
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: that it did, but it really did. And then now
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: you're going, this is just like that, and then where
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: he did take another step towards being a better human.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: When's link is all right, I'm just gonna leave, then
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: he's like, hey, hey, look, thank you, thank you for
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: offering to try and help, and thank you for accepting
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: me being an ass. It's not you, it's me and
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Selinka going hey, you know, you're welcome. It's fine, Like
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: we've all got our own, you know. On top of
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: his link is saying to him, You're not the only
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: one that misses them. It's like, yeah, it's like, don't
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: forget about us, but I do respect that you may
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: have had more to do with certain people or that
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: you had a relationship. You're not me, I'm not you,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: so I can't possibly understand how you handle grief lots
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: of this stuff. So oh shit, wow, you're blame my
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: god damn mind. Then wow, because like you know, here
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: we've referenced a bunch of times like you and I.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: We got to interview her at a super and over
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: one year.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: Do you know that's what we need, Alban If you're
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: still out there listening, what I would love is the
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: Sarah mon Glaughlin I will remember you just to a
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: montage of photos of Tory Higginson and the last one
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: being the photo of you me to no, it's with you,
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: Tory and Lincoln and I'm taking the photo yeah and that,
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: and then it just fades to black.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: And I'm in a King of the North.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're just as King of the North.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: Essentially, Lincoln's in one of the tightest white shirts he owns.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Look great.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Tory looks very flustered with him, and I've taken.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: She looks stunning that though she did so, I don't
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: know how much I would have allowed myself to actually
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: ask her about Stargate, because I knew that I hadn't
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: seen Atlanta. Yeah, but I probably would have been, like
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: you most love being a part of this franchise, like, well, yeah,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: she's been taken to Australia to get paid by people
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: to get autographs and photos were there because she's a
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: part of this franchise and we'll be able to do
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: so for another twenty years. But I didn't know there was,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: you know, some sour milk.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, yes, that's unfortunate. Yes it is, and
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: in honor given that she was in and Hoorah last
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: ship and given that hoororh was a Gilmore Girl's episode.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: I'm wearing my dosies like a T shirt.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Oh is that what that is?
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah? That's that's the supermarket in the Gilmore Girls town.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. I mean there's some niche you know, I
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: love niche merch but that, yeah, Dosi's Market. That is
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: something that is something else.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Love it.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: There's another one that Kim's Antiques, which is the antique
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: shop in the story.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. Well when you say I'm going to
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: get it, this is stuff that's a vailable. You're not
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: making this up yourself?
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, just buy it online from the placing
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: my T shirts.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Right, I mean, I'm judging it. But I wish that
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: other like franchises would also do that. Yeah, I do em.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Did we ever make you a stark industry shirt? Did that?
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Way back?
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: The colored one that's a little starch industry.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: I embroidered that, like I had to get my you know,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: to give the logo to my our digital guy here
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: at work way back when I say can you put
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: this into a particular file type so that I can
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: take it to an embroidery shop and then show up
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: there with a bunch of blank polos and said can
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: you please put it over the chest? Please, right over
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: the heart. And I still wear that when I'm mowing,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: like it's bleached and dirty and ripped, and and I'm like, no, no, no,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: it's my working shirt.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: The only ones I've had custom made was the Team
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: Stark Team Rogers ones we had done for Wow, the
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Civil War.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but every other one that I've got is I
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: can buy it online.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: I wore that shirt to death too, my Team Rogers.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah we're Team Rogers, Okay, we all love onman, but
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Civil were team we were a team cap. And that
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: print started to come off in you know, the wash
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: and then the would be dryer and stuff. I kept
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: that until the last like scary skin piece of the
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: white print fell off. And I still might have the
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: blue shirt that I just wear at home kicking about
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: the house. So yeah, niche niche merch from Stargate, send
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: in your suggestions absolutely.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Quick, little rapid fire of some little bits of trivia
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: for you. Like you said before, with the with all
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: the battle stuff, this episode has the highest CGI budget
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: for a single episode of Stargate ever.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: There was a deleted scene.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: Where Carter and Caldwell discussed the fact that Hermiod is
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: no longer aboard the Daedalus was obviously Hermiad would have
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: gone back to the home world in un Ending and
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: he is no longer with us and called Well disclosed
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: that he's actually divorced. In the audio comment Charry, they
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: talk about how Arc of Truth is about to come
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: out on DVD, which led into what I alluded to
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: last week. So the reason Amanda wasn't available, especially for
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: these last couple of episodes, is because she was off
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: filming Arc of Truth and Continuum. All these episodes were
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: being filmed. Even though Ark of Truth is obviously set
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: before this and Continue was set after this season, she
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: only had two days available on set to do this episode.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: So all the stuff you see with Carter in this episode,
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: she didn't never know. This might have been the first
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: time you've heard the name Kanaan is, who Taylor references
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: as the father of her baby.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, right, right right, yeah, yeah, And what I'm like
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: that she sort of mentioned it, and then like Shepherd
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: just goes off and says to card, yeah, taking her
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: out of commission, Why is that she's pregnant. I'm like, God,
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: it seems like a secret she's been trying to keep.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: And she's like, oh, John was such a dick about that.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: He was such a dick about that.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: Like mart Gera has this big, long speech about in
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: the autommon because he wrote it, but it wasn't great.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: It wasn't a great thing to do. He did it
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: from a place of love, but it was very it
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: was not great. It was a bit nikky.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Hey jealous, Yeah, hey jealous.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: And the fact that it can tails written by man
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: because every single person when they find out Taylor's pregnant,
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: who's the father.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Who's the father?
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Who's the father? Like it matters.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Hi doing that.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: She's a strong independent woman. She don't need no man.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Have your Father's day, everyone
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: Geek, get into Gate, Get into Gate, Stargate podcast, Get
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: into it now before it's too late.