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Trans - Rich · GAS MONEY

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_05: Welcome to another episode of Gas Money.
• 0:02
  SPEAKER_05: We got Zap in the building.
• 0:03
  SPEAKER_05: What's up, what's up?
• 0:04
  SPEAKER_05: We got Red in the building.
• 0:05
  SPEAKER_03: What up people?
• 0:06
  SPEAKER_03: It's Bye Ponty.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_03: We got your boy Chubby Sav, aka Sir Chubbs.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_04: We got A G in the building.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_07: His actual name is King Chubs now.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I call him Sir Chubbs.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_07: We got A G in the building.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_05: You gotta be no.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_04: They go on shot.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_05: There's a reason for somebody to call you King of anything.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_05: I don't think it's not king worthy.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_05: No, he's calling me.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_05: Because I'm the king of New York.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_04: Treyway.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_05: How are you the king of New York?
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_05: Um, are you gonna talk about Labor Day?
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_05: Because you give a fuck about it, the only one in the room?
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_04: Happy Labor Day weekend.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_04: That's what Labor Day is.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_04: We got all our Caribbean people on in Brooklyn today.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_04: About to fuck shit up.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_04: Lord of mercy.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_04: Today's the Parkway Day?
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_04: No, but there's a lot of fet that goes on.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_04: So and then it goes into Juve.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_05: Uh Juve is actually Death Day, if you say real fast.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_05: She said the gallon, I said a centre.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_05: So don't go to Juve.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_05: You don't need to.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_05: I've never been to Juve.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_05: I I think last what?
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_05: Keep going.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_05: I think last year at uh Juve, wasn't that when the girl got shot because she didn't give the number?
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_04: That was the game.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_04: No, she didn't dance.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_04: It was two years ago, I thought it was a little bit more.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_04: Last year was the first year that they didn't have a like a big killing that happened at Juve, because it's now six in the morning.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_04: So it's now when the sun's up and it's all controlled by cops.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_05: Also, they changed the whole time.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_04: It's not through the night no more.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_04: It's not just before the parkway.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_04: So it's just extended parkway?
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_03: It's a gentrified version.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_03: So why there was a time where you can walk up and down Eastern Parkway all hours of the night, groping and fondling stray females back in the day.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_05: Sounds like rape culture, man.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, listen, that's what it hey, that's what it was.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_03: Alright.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_03: Um you do some lockers.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not the one at the Puerto Rican Day Parade grabbing asses and shit.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know guys.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_05: Those guys were found free, alright?
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_05: They were good.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_04: Donald Trump is an asshole.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_04: So wait, so we're in those young men's lies.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_04: So we basically had a New York City Freaknik going on?
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_03: What?
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_03: That is the only thing I'm mad that I'm not old enough to have wit to have been a part of an experience.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_03: Freaknic?
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_03: You wanted crabs?
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_03: Like that's what you wanted?
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_03: Freaknik was it.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_05: That shit was popping.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_05: What do you know about Freaknik?
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_05: I saw some videos.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, videos.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_07: That's southern culture.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_07: I'm gonna teach you to try to appropriate it.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_05: I wouldn't want to appropriate that.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_05: That's crabs.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_05: It's like Marty Car times three.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_03: It's bruh.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_03: It's like carnival, like don't compare.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_05: But Southern.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_05: Southern Carnival.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_05: Slave Carnival.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, Kune.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_05: Stop being derogatory.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_05: Kanye apologized, right?
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_05: Black people love him again.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_05: Don't forget that.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_05: He did apologize.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_04: So, so so you know, let me know about that.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_04: He would apologize about what?
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_05: Please afford him.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_05: So Kanye, I mean Kunye, I mean Kanye West went to um uh radio.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_05: It was a radio show.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_05: He's doing this whole Chicago tour right now, actually.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_05: Like he's trying to like, you know, big up the city.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_05: He's doing a lot of positive things.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_03: He's working with Chance the Rapper.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the rapper.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know why.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_05: I think he's an industry playing.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_05: He's doing that, though.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_05: He's an industry plant, that's my opinion.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_05: But you know, we talk about it.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_05: I've never listened to a song of his own.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_05: But he's the biggest artist ever.
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_05: Isn't that crazy?
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_05: That's a little weird.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_03: He went to Grammy without a fucking contract.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_05: Just a mixtape.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_05: It's weird.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_05: It's almost like they're purposely doing this.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_03: No, I actually believe they do.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, I believe he has good, I believe he has good content.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_05: I think he's an industry plant for real.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_05: Like, no.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_05: So you don't like his music either?
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_05: What does it have to do with his music?
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_05: I'm asking a question.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_05: I don't listen to his music.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_05: Really?
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_05: No.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_05: I've heard like one, he had the best.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_03: I had to figure out what you're talking about.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_03: You never listen to two chains Lil Wayne song?
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_05: You ain't want no problem.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_05: I've heard that song because I was out there.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_05: Nah, the one song I fuck with.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_03: The three hats.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_03: That's the Chancer Rapper album.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_03: I asked him, I'm like, yo, what the fuck are those dumbass hats and everybody?
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_05: Why is it a three?
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_05: Chance three is his mixtape album, some short?
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_03: They said something about that's his third mixed.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, some shit like that.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_05: But he So that's what it's like.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_06: So is he gonna get a four hat next?
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_05: I guess.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_05: He's a Chicago nigga.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_05: I'll not speak Drew.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_04: He doesn't even drill rap.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_04: I only fuck with that one song when he when he basically.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_06: So nah, nobody fucks with Chancer Rapper.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_04: No, I keep it, but I only fuck with wrong songs.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_04: I've heard one verse, but it was the best verse on Kanye's album.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_04: The last one that came out.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_04: Is that the one where he said At the beginning of that album?
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_04: He said um I hit that bitch and never call again or some shit at Boha Nuva Rang or some shit.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_04: I remember that the whack one.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_04: I remember that verse that changed it.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_07: The recent one, the one before that.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_05: The one that just came out, I think.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_06: Ultra Light Beam.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_06: Whatever album.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_06: That's the one.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_06: Ultra Light Beam is.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_06: The one before the Life of Pablo.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I don't keep up with his music.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_05: It's garbage.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_03: Life of Pablo is a good album.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_05: To you.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_05: To you.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_05: I fucking to you.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_05: So is anybody gonna really inform me about this?
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_04: Calgary makes great music.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_04: To you.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_04: To you.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_04: So does somebody want to inform me about the video?
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so he went to a radio station.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know the station.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_05: I don't even want to big them up, honestly, because I'm not from Chicago.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_05: And um he cried.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_05: He basically apologized for the way the slave comments made people feel.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know if that's a real apology personally.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_05: He also blamed the people in his circle.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_05: He mentioned Don C by name, saying that he um he felt like he was abandoned and he needed certain people in his circle to kind of let him know.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_05: Like, hey, Kanye, you're bugging.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you need you need you need some to bring you back down to reality.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_03: People did though.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_03: That's the thing.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_03: Like, when you have a bunch of yes men around you, women, you'll never fucking go anywhere.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_05: We call those women.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_03: And that's why a lot of these fucking people a lot of these street rappers continue to put out music because nobody will tell them that their fucking music sucks.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_03: Name one.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_05: You sound really name one.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_03: Name one guy you talking about.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, listen, man.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_03: I don't need I don't I don't need to sit here and uh comfort nobody in particular.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I ain't cool.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_03: But there's a lot of motherfuckers who need to put the mic down.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_03: And rap sandwiches.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_04: He doesn't rap.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_04: But he's on a podcast, and oh, he says it's at lib, so I think he thinks this is his rap show.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_05: Um but how do y'all feel about Kanye's apology?
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_05: There's a lot of Kanye apologists in the room to begin with, so.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_06: I personally feel like it was heartfelt.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_05: Because he cried.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_05: He used his white man voice too.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_05: That's his permanent voice now.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_05: I hate that voice.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_05: That's his permanent voice.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_07: Because I had to go back to interviews, I had to backtrack to see if he actually always sounded like.
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_05: I can tell you the exact interview when he started.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_05: Ellen shit.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_05: No, it was a Chris's show, actually.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_05: Chris Jenner?
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, she had a show.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_06: I didn't even know she had a show.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it was just like Ellen.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_05: And that was the first time.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_07: But I saw the transition from like black Kanye to like I don't know.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_07: But basically in that radio interview, he was like a national black treasure.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, black people can't hate Kanye.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_05: But besides you, I'm not the only one.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_05: I'm really not the only one.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_05: There's a lot of people.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_05: I'm not gonna go back on Kanye's Kool-Aid.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_05: And I I I tweeted out maybe like Oh, you a Kanye slander it, huh?
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I've been slandering this nigga for a long time.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_05: I just don't think he's wake up at a border.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_05: I hate Kanye.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_05: I've only tweeted about him one time ever.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_05: And I was disappointed in him.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_05: And this was before the slave shit.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_05: I saw this shit coming.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_05: I really did.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_05: But I read, you look like you want to say something to Kanye Apologist.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_03: I look like I want to say something to say.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_03: You can you can tell that from this dim lit uh spot.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I can see the furrow in your brow every time I mention anything negative to do with this nigga.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_04: Yo, stop, stop taking shots at my spot, alright?
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_04: I know it's hot, like 10 Jamaican flat boxing.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_04: He's not paying attention to it.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_04: But you know, niggas can't afford brighter lights, man.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_04: Go ahead, man.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_04: Take your shades off and it won't be dim.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_03: I've said it once and I've said and I'll say it again.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_03: I do not think that everything he puts out is gold.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_03: There have been songs and projects that I'm really not a complete fan of.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_03: Name one.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Yesus was something that I wasn't a complete fan of.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_03: Not a bad album.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_04: It wasn't a bad album.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_04: You can say that about Cardi B's album, but I don't mean that it's garbage.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_05: Nah, it's garbage.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_07: But the thing is, you're talking about music, Kanye.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_07: Music Kanye and Personal Belief Kanye are two different people.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, absolutely.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_03: That's why I said Kanye's music is unparalleled.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_03: Like, bro.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_03: Kanye's production.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, the oversampling?
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, that's cool.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_05: The oversampling?
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_05: Yo, I can do this all day.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_03: 21 grammies, nigga.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_05: I can do this all day.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_05: He's just an unsatisfied woman.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_07: That's great.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_07: He's just an unsatisfied feminist and nothing great happen nothing happens to you.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_05: It's great.
• 8:42
  unknown: Think about that.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_05: What is Kanye without a sample?
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_05: What good beat has he made without a sample?
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_05: Alright, first of all, Kanye.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_05: Sampling.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_05: I just wanted somebody to say that.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_01: Sampling and his music, right?
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_01: Probably took a halt after gradu.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_01: Took a halt after graduation.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_05: Answer the question?
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_01: What?
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_01: Give me a good Kanye B without a sample.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_05: Oh shit.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_05: Anyway.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_05: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_05: I don't want to say.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, but hold on.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_01: Wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_01: You know what a mean like a drum table?
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_01: What are we saying then?
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_01: Talking about a fucking wait, hold on.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_01: Are you using are you trying to use the type of sample of the colour?
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_05: Are you trying to crucify his musical talents?
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_01: Are you trying to uh condemn his musical talents off the fact because of the fact that he samples?
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_01: So why are you saying he oversamples?
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_01: No, he doesn't oversample.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_01: So you can a lot of his songs.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_01: I gotta pull into 90.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yo, if you listen to some of the old 90s rap songs, like Q Tib was oversampling.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_01: If you listen to the city, but we're not talking about Q Tib.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_01: Oversamples.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_07: No great song.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_07: Oh whatever.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_07: There we go.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_07: Good life.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_07: Can't tell me nothing.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_07: These are great songs.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_01: Can't tell me nothing to have a sample.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_01: Whatever the case is.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_05: Kanye is a is uh he makes he makes good music.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_05: Nah, he yeah, he makes good music.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_05: We can leave it at that.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know why we're going to.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_01: I thought he was trying to kill him just now.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_05: Chicken P with his nigga boost.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_05: Chicken P with his name.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_05: Good as nothing.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_05: Good and good enough sometimes, you know.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, real talk.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_01: Kanye is the most important figure.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_01: What it to me, in my opinion, next to Tupac is the most important figure.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_05: And that's cool.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_05: And hit to uh to hip hop music.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_05: There's the person that doesn't believe that hip hop culture is black culture.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_05: It's not black culture.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_05: But we can talk about that another time.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_05: But you scared me.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_01: He is the most important uh person for hip-hop music.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_01: This is a with the last thing without culture.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_01: This is a this is a guy with so much pop appeal bringing so much consciousness to his music.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_01: What is Jay-Z doing?
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_01: What?
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_01: I said this is a figure, right?
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_01: A popular figure in hip-hop, right?
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_01: Probably one of the biggest hip-hop uh stars, right?
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_01: Icons, I should say, that is bringing consciousness to their music.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_01: He don't have to do that.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_01: He could just be making his songs talk about like like pimping like by Jay-Z.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_01: What's wrong with Big Pimping?
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_01: No, there's nothing, there's nothing wrong with that, but to use your platform for that kind of uh good, I gotta give it a lot of things.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_01: That's why everybody's so that's why everybody's so let down.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_03: Next to Just Blaze, Kanye was that dude behind the Rockefeller shit.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_03: Like, he helped propel Jay-Z with certain shit as far as mus as far as production.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_03: Now Jay-Z had a lot of producers.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_03: We got Rick Rubin.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_01: Jay had they had just blaze, Pharrell, Rick Rubin, Timbaland, Rick Rubin.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, I understand.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_03: But what I'm saying is he's an engineer.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_03: Rockefeller in-house shit.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_03: In-house shit.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_03: If it wasn't just blaze, it was Kanye.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_03: And Jay-Z didn't even want to give Kanye that chance.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_03: It was Dame who did it.
• 11:57
  unknown: Just like Jay Cole.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, speaking of J.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_07: Cole, he even sample Kanye.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_07: That's how great Kanye is.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_05: You look like what in my opinion.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_07: Well, what is he what is he say what he just said?
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_07: I was just saying how much.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_05: That makes him great because he got sampled.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_05: He sampled workout plans.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, that makes him great.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_05: Um, makes him sample.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_05: Everybody gets it.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_03: Back to the interview.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_03: But back to the interview.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I definitely do think that it was heartfelt or whatever the case is.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_03: You see, as someone who can understand the fight in battling bipolar disorder, you gotta understand certain shit.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_03: And the reality is if you're on medication, if you're this, if you're that, or whatever, you got a chemical imbalance in your brain, you're not fucking thinking correctly.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not saying that, yeah, okay, everybody go sit here and forgive them about the slave comments or whatever the fuck.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_03: But at the end of the day, at the end of the fucking day, everyone has to realize that he's a fucking music producer, he is no politician, he's no freaking, he's he's no uh influential figure in the black community to fucking lose.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_04: Nah, but he kind of is the influential.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_04: He put himself in that predicament.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_04: He put himself in that pedigrement.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_04: Look at what he came up with Jesus Walk and all that.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_04: Everybody was like, oh, this guy is trying to be a pro-black.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, but everybody looked at him as trying to do it.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_04: Franklin, everybody Kanye with everybody broke to do what Kendrick was doing with the whole black panda trying to be pro-black.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_04: That's what everybody expected Kanye to be pro-brack.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_05: Pro black black.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_05: Can't say pro-black.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, like Kanye is a combo, man.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_05: That's all I was saying.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_03: Like I said, y'all motherfuckers fail to fucking realize it fucked him up.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_00: It sounded like a lot of excuses, bro.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like I feel like it propelled him, if anything.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like it propelled him, though.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_03: Nigga, like, you don't think that he got brain damage from that fucking accident?
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_03: There's a lot of people.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_04: You know what I think really fucked him up?
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_05: Excuse me.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_05: There's a lot of people that said that didn't even happen.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_05: So him and a him and a house.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, those are the things.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_02: I feel like I feel like so the pictures when his Joe that never happened.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_04: Movie production.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_04: What I feel really messed him up was his mother passion.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_04: I agree with that.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_04: That's what I that's what I feel like.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_04: I agree with that 110%.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_03: That was the point where he turned out.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_03: Had no return out.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_06: And he turned that's what that's the point where he turned white.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_06: And that's acceptable.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_03: Honestly, but like I said, you know, it all goes back to the mental health shit.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_05: No, I agree with that.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_03: If you're not in the right state of mind as it is, and then the only person who was pretty much holding you down or your rock, or you know what I'm saying?
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_03: And that person goes unexpectedly, that fucked him up.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_03: And the industry is lonely when you at the top.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_07: Okay, so you think that you know what I'm saying?
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_07: Do you think there was there would be a Kim Yeah if there was Don Kim Yeah?
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_07: Kanye West.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_07: Only queers call him now.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_06: I just wasn't gonna say Kim Kardashian.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_06: I just wasn't gonna say the whole name.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_07: What about her?
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_07: Do you think if Donda West was still alive, that he would marry Kim Kardashian?
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_04: No.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_04: Hell no.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_04: Um, porn fetters, I'm as a porn fetters.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I felt like his mother would have talked him out, be like, yo, listen, that's not a smart move in your life.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_04: That's what I feel would have happened.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_04: He listens to his mom above everything.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_04: So I love it.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know, I don't know.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_03: Like, you know, getting back to the shit, his apology, I do think that it was hardfelt.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_03: I don't.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_03: Um I do I do think that it was you know legitimate.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_03: I don't.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_03: And I say that because he even, you know, spoke of dynasty or whatever the case is.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_03: When you know that you have that person in your circle who keeps you grounded and you don't have them no more, like he realizes that he went out on the fucking on the deep end, went off the deep end.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_03: So I think he's just trying to kind of reel it back in.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_05: If I honestly think he's he took an L and this is his way of doubling back because there were people in within his circle.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_05: Would you say John Legend is in his circle?
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_05: John Legend openly spoke to Kanye through Twitter, like straight to the same platform he was using to spew the nonsense.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_05: He said, Brother, like I I would never like not be your friend, but the shit you're saying is bullshit.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_05: And he was he was just saying, oh, listen, I don't take the opinions of this people and blah blah blah blah blah blah.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't register.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_01: So what was Don C gonna do?
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_01: What I wanna know is what is the basic content?
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't matter.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_03: Some people can get to you or speak to you and make you realize shit before any other people before anybody else can.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_03: So maybe that was his person.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_03: But when you're in a manic state, my nigga, you go off the deep end and you say, So that means you refuse to listen to other people.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_03: When you you're not here.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_03: You're not here.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_03: When you when you watch the Ellen show, when he was on there, he was in a complete manic state.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_03: He was either off his meds or whatever the fuck.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_03: You just had he just had an episode.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_03: It happened.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_03: I don't you gotta understand bipolar disorder to understand certain shit.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't wanna chalk this up to you know him not losing, him not taking his meds, or him being fucking psychotic.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_01: Well at the he could have just been very expressive, and that's all it is.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like he said something that was misinterpreted.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_01: Kanye apologies number three or something.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_01: What is the beef with Kanye?
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_01: Define for the people that hate what if for the people that dislike Kanye West right now, because it's opposite Jay-Z.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_03: That's why.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_05: What is the beef with him?
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_05: I just think he makes subpar music now.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, no, no.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_05: What's the beef though?
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_05: Well, like, why do people dislike him now?
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_04: I'm literally trying to.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna tell you what the biggest problem with Kanye is.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_04: To you.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_04: To me.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_04: If when Kanye came up with all his old music like graduation, everybody was like, okay, this is a guy that everybody could relate to that would shine light on everybody else.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_04: Because think about it, as a black male, a lot of shit goes on where we could walk the street, not know if we're gonna get harassed by a cop, not know if we're gonna get shot.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_04: But Kanye, what we didn't even talking about.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_04: But when you have reality, when you have these kids that's like they idolize these sports players, these rap artists, and this is what you're seeing as being pro-black, and then you take a turn and say now black people just sat there and talk about slavery like that, it's like, what am I supposed to start?
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_04: But was looked wrong when he spoke about slavery.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_04: What do you mean?
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, he was.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_03: By him saying the shit was a choice.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_03: This point wasn't wrong.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_03: To you, to you wasn't wrong.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_03: But his thing is thousands of choice.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_03: No, no, no, fuck that.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_03: Delivery is everything.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_03: Excuse me.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_03: We all had this fucking conversation on this on this podcast.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_03: We all agree that his delivery was true.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_03: It's the delivery, but what he was saying was true.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_03: Because guess what?
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_03: Are we gonna continue to sit here and talk about 400 years of slavery and yada yada yada as opposed to advancing as a as a culture?
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_03: Nah, you're right.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_04: You're right.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_04: But this is this is what I'm saying.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_04: But yeah, you're right, but this is what I'm saying.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_04: If I'm a young, a young person, and then what you're saying.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_04: And we're idolizing them, and you switch up, what is that most likely gonna happen?
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_03: Guess what?
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_04: It's opening a broader type of thinking.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_03: But listen, these are these little, these are these kids from that they are looking up to these people.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_04: But you gotta remember, we don't have nobody like MLK and all these people to really look up to.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_04: So who are these people gonna look up to?
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_04: Hey, listen, me people that that's touching them.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_04: You know what?
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_03: Then that's a you can't look up to yourself community that needs to be addressed.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_03: Okay amongst everyone.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_03: I look up to myself every day.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_03: But I'm a different type of man.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_03: I'm an original.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm a people listen, y'all don't y'all know who Charles Barkley is just because of TV, but y'all never actually seen him play.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_03: His shit back in the day was I'm I'm not a role model.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_03: Charles Barkley was not I'm not a role model.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_04: But it's just like this.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_04: It's just like I say, me growing up as a me growing up on-to these people as role models or whatever.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_02: Nah, kind of put himself.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_04: I would say as this us group as a group growing up, right?
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_04: Who are the ones that we like on the block as far as we can say, okay, we would look up to a go-to?
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_04: The go-to, right?
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_04: Now, if y'all go do some shit like that, what are we gonna start thinking?
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, that's cool.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_04: Now we're gonna start doing the shit, and what is it gonna do?
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_04: It's gonna push a block.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_04: Or you can think for yourself.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_04: Too late.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_04: You can think from yourself, but you gotta understand what I'm saying.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_04: When there's certain people that you see and you start idolizing, it don't matter who it is, you start to think, okay, if they're doing something, it's an influence.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_04: It's like now if you was as we was younger, your team.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_04: So you basically say I told you.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_03: So let me let me ask you.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_03: If I fucking go over there and you look up to me and I go to the corner and I freaking black like five fucking people, you you're gonna fucking sit there and say, oh, I'm gonna do that too.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_04: Part of you is part of you is thinking it's cool to do because and it might be exciting because if I'm seeing, if I'm seeing, but if I'm seeing somebody that I idolize doing it, and I'm like, oh shit, this is the person that raised me and taught me.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_03: You see, and this is and this is this is the mental capacity that others don't think about.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_03: Just because you do the shit, doesn't mean that I have to do it.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_03: And even though I look up to you, I don't know what your no no no no You can't judge a person for their actions if you don't know what their choices were.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_03: You dig what I'm saying?
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_03: So people look at the face of things and not knowing what goes on behind the shit before they sit there and say, Oh, okay, this is this, or we'll bring it right back.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_03: But you don't know what my choices were, why I had to shoot five people.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_03: I may not have to sit here and elaborate it to you, because I don't have to fucking explain myself.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_05: That's true.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_05: But if you know following and he looks up to you, you might have to explain.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_05: You have that uh responsibility.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_05: Kanye knows that we look up to him as a people.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_05: He's asked for this by through his music and through his actions.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_05: So if you put yourself on that pedestal, you have a certain responsibility.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_05: Charles Brockley did not want to be a role model, but LeBron James clearly does.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_05: And this is my thing.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_03: And and he's doing everything to be a role model.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so Kanye, that's the point.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_05: We have to hold him accountable.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_03: And you know, you know I don't see that.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_05: I don't I'm not gonna say he put himself in a position to be a role model.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, he does.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, like yeah, I'm talking about.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_05: So, what was the George Bus don't care about?
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_05: Black people should know.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, but that's talking from how he feels.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_03: That's the only record.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_03: It was obvious.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_05: So why did he have to be the one to say something?
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_05: Because he felt like a rap song.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_05: Look, he's not a good thing.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_05: But why was he there?
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_07: He did put it in the rap song.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_05: What are you talking about?
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_05: He did put it in the rap song.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_05: Which one did he do first?
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_05: He said it first.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, so your point is.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_01: What he's trying to say is Kanye's putting himself, put himself in this position.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_01: We can't agree to be in a role model just because of some of the I was just because of some of the good things that he did, like uh speak out, not speak out, but uh mention that Joe.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_05: Why did he tell you his dad was a Black Panther?
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_05: What is this all for?
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_01: To give you some insight on why he does what maybe the way he thinks until how does he think?
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_04: How does he act?
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_04: Just like how somebody mentioned LeBron, right?
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_04: Just like how people mentioned LeBron trying to be an idol doing certain things.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_04: Kanye did certain things.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_04: Now I'm gonna tell you one thing.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_04: When LeBron says something about kneeling and everything in the third game, you know how many people that was still criticizing for not kneeling because at the end of the day, you had these people back home that's looking up to you?
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_04: Just something as simple as that.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_04: So if now I'm looking up to you, and then you're gonna sit there and bash and say slavery was a choice when everybody knows for a fact that people was just taking these black people, using them, dumping them off, and if you didn't respond, you was getting killed.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_04: Jim Brown.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_04: It's fair.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_04: A lot of people, if you if a white guy was to come here and tell everybody in this room, yo, I'll kill everybody that's that third, and he had a gun, guess what?
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_04: A majority of the people are gonna start listening.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_04: It's just like 9-11.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_04: Jim Brown.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_04: Once you put fear in people's hearts, once you put fear in people's hearts, no matter what, you take over their whole minds.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, of course.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_04: That's how it is.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_04: And that was the whole thing.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_04: That was the whole being pushed.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_04: Look at 9-11.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_04: Look at 9-11.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_03: Slavery and Christianity broke black people.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_05: I disagree, but okay.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_03: Excuse me?
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_05: I disagree, but okay.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_05: Why do you disagree?
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_05: Because wait, what is the point?
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_05: What what about Christianity broke black people?
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_05: Hey, he's talking about like, oh, um, it took their whole religion and the whole way of thinking.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_07: You're gonna you're gonna go to hell, or you're gonna go to hell.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_07: Everything you were practicing before was wrong.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, but don't you ask that's any religion?
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_05: I was I was about to I don't know why we're pointing out Christianity if all religions.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_05: That's all religions.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_05: That's all religions.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_05: Let me ask you some.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_05: Islam was in in Africa before Christianity was.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_03: Don't you think that it was planned out that they gave slaves the Bible instead of education?
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_05: They gave them both.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_03: No, the fuck they didn't.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_05: They didn't do.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_05: They did not give it a job.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_05: They did not allow them to read or anything.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_05: So the the slaves the white people preached.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_05: Did you guys watch the Nat Turner movie?
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_05: I did.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_05: That's based on a real event.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_05: You know what Nat Turner's job was?
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_05: To go around and teach gospel to other slaves.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_05: He used that same book as the reason for why he revolted.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_05: So if who taught him how to read?
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_02: That's a good question.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_05: A slave master.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_03: But you get it's not something that was.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_05: No, but he used the Bible as his reasoning for revolting.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_05: No, he wasn't.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_06: No, he wasn't.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_06: So he wasn't a house nigga.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_06: No, he wasn't.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_04: At the end of the day, he wasn't a house nigga.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_04: And I'm gonna tell you right now, I don't feel like his apology was sincere because it's like you say what you say, and this is my thing.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_04: If I say something and I feel bad of it, within maybe two days I'll start feeling bad.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_04: Kanye is full of shit.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_04: How long did Kanye go before saying, oh, let me apologize.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_04: I feel like there were people in his camp like you're going to go down.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_04: You have to see the platform he's at.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_04: You can't just say something, then take it back.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_04: That means you stand for nothing.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_04: I can't wait to see that.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_04: No, because I can say dumb shit and y'all defend me.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_04: If I sit here if I sit here and if he said something, and two days later, but listen, you know what?
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_04: I was off my shits.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_04: I said something wrong a couple days.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_04: People were going to be able to do that.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_04: But he doesn't believe he said something wrong.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_03: He said something back.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_03: He did say something.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_03: If y'all didn't listen to if y'all didn't see the delivery.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_03: He said his delivery, like.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_04: And it was it was it was two, three days or a week later.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_04: Listen.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_04: I feel like he could have done that way bigger.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_03: It was TMZ who cut the purpose shots.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_04: It's really that simple.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_04: We know we know TMZ's gonna do that type of shit.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_04: So as a person that's in that limelight and being a role, you gotta watch what the fuck you say and how you say it.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_03: Listen, we we we've discussed this on the podcast already.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_03: And what's done is done.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_03: You can't change it, whatever.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_04: I think the nigga would just say, yeah, I'm about to lose Brad.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_05: I personally I'm just happy I have another person that's not a Kanye apologist because it's three on two right now.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know what Ace stands.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_03: That's actually three on three with the two of y'all motherfuckers.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_05: No, I don't I don't think so.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_05: Maybe four on four.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_04: So who's who the two people?
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_04: Because I know I've been losing weight.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, both one and a half.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_05: Nah.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_04: I would rather be two people than two.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_04: Well, Zach, you don't count as a person.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know what he's talking about.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_04: You don't have a mustache.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_05: So anyway, next topic, let's segue.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_05: We can uh Ace wanted to segue into um uh violence and the sensitivity in um um um media because we were talking about you know the shooting of five people in the corner.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_05: And like how simple that was to come out of your mouth.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_05: Like you didn't talk about robbing somebody, you talked about killing five humans.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_03: Because I went I wanted to go to the extreme.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, but you see how it's kind of easy for all of us, not just you, of course.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_05: But uh a lot of our topics, a lot of the things that we're geared to is towards violence.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_05: Don't you think that's gonna eventually catch up to us in the long run?
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, if you grow up playing GTA, absolutely.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_05: So you don't think that's a problem?
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_05: Like we have the take A's out here?
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_03: No, no, because there's there is a difference between what's being played in a video game versus you actually going out and doing it.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_03: But no, but that's all you're seeing.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_07: But that that's all you hear in rap songs and stuff.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_07: What people idolize.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_03: Well, then yeah, I bring that back to their poor upbringing and their poor race.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_05: Not only poor people, because we're gonna be able to do that.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_05: I was raised in a great home and I and I still have two-parent household rich with money, still shooting school.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_05: Like what?
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_03: Their poor opportunity.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_05: Little Pump was in Harvard.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_05: No, that's a lot.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_03: To know this is a game if you don't do this shit in real life.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_03: That's what I'm talking about.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_03: Everyone is taught or should be taught the difference between right and wrong as a child.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_03: And there's certain things that you know is just make-believe, and then there's certain things that are real.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_03: So if you're taught this shit, you know what I'm saying?
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_05: Like, so you don't think that there's a correlation between the aggressive media, aggressive video games, aggressive violence in our music, and the violence in our culture overall?
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_05: I'm not talking about black culture, I'm just talking about let's say American culture.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_03: Bro, this is what our country was founded on war and genocide and fucking killings and brutal.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_03: We've been desensitized to this shit.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_03: The only difference is that it's being filmed and uploaded on social media.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_03: That's it.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna give you a difference right now.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_05: There's more school shootings now than there were ever.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_05: So you don't think there's no code?
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna ask you this.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_04: You say evolution, bro.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_03: You say evolution has to have a catalog.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, of course.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_03: All right then.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_03: So there's more chances for school shootings.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_04: You say you say the upbringing.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_04: You're trying to tell me that all these people that's in gangs and doing older shit didn't have a parent in their life saying, yo, don't be on the corner, don't be on the streets.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_04: I know people that literally know people that's like that.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_04: I literally know people that had that, and guess what?
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_04: And they're still getting back.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_04: But the influence doesn't have to be.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_04: But what if they didn't have that certain type of love at home that drove them?
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_04: It's just the influence of being like this.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_04: If I hear a rapper making, talking about, oh, he was selling drugs, making um more than what my mother's making.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, what do you think I'm gonna start to stare into?
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_04: Fast money that I'm gonna say, okay, I can make 500 in a day.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_04: You get what I'm saying?
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_04: But that that goes back to your mentality.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_03: That doesn't have to do with the way that you were raised.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_04: But you just said it has to do with your upbringing.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_04: I'm showing you that it doesn't have to do with your upbringing.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_08: But I'm trouble with upbringing as well, because if your father taught you, this is ace by the way, if your father taught you or your mother taught you other business choices, you wouldn't even look at hustling on the corner because you know better.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_08: You know real estate is what you need to get into.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_08: But this is all industry.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_08: I agree with you.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_08: That's what you choose.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it's what you get.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_03: But if you choose to be easily influenced by my nigga, I grew up with a bunch of motherfucking gangbangers and killers.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, okay.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, yeah.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_03: I've you know, like I've partaking a certain activity and shit, but I've no, all right, I'm not doing this or I'm not doing that, I'm not, whatever the case is, because that's just not my thing.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I know about it.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_03: I'm in the streets, I'm hanging with these motherfuckers, I'm you know, act acting the fucking fool to a certain extent.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_06: But that's just not your thing.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_06: It can be somebody else's thing.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_03: I was brought up.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_03: Like I know I'm gonna do it.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_03: It can be somebody else's.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_07: It can be somebody else's thing.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_07: If they what if they what if they grew up in a good home and then they realize I can sell a whole brick?
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_07: It might not be their thing where they can they can equate or like adapt to that type of lifestyle.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_07: Let me tell you something.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_07: I grew with chuckling.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_03: You know what's different.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_03: You know what, but that's being a hustler.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_03: That's no no no money you know what it is.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_03: You know what it is?
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_03: If you're selling drugs, I'm gonna tell you the monster right now.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna tell you exactly what it is.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_03: What are hurting drugs?
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_04: What?
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_05: A brick is coke.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_05: Coke.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_05: You hurting people?
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_05: Let me ask you.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_05: Hurting people for your per personal gain, you're not gonna really care because you're making money.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_05: Let me ask you something.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_04: When you was growing up, what did they say um runs the world or moves the world?
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_04: Money.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_04: Okay then.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_04: So what was one thing that your parents always told you?
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_04: She gave you options.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_04: She told you you could go to the street, you'll fucking end up probably in jail, but you'll make money this and throw, or you could get a legal job, let's say real estate, and make money, right?
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_04: But what's the end goal of everything?
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_05: Money, money, money.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, then money.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_04: So now it don't have to be upbringing or whatever the case may be.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_04: It's just the fact that I need money to pay my bills, I need money to survive, I need money regardless for whatever the case may be.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_04: My parents are telling us to go to cover.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_04: I'm just gonna sit there and in my mind, it might be like, okay, I may not shoot somebody with my friends, but I may sell drugs with my friends, but you're still taking else's life.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_04: You're ruining somebody else's life and you're still taking that bad fall.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_04: You can't say, you can't say I didn't have a terrible upbringing.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_04: All I could all you can really say is I just wanted money and I wanted money now.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_05: It's not only the person he sells drugs to, he has to understand the how the drugs get here.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_01: My thing is Exactly.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_03: Black people don't own no fucking uh ships and fucking planes.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but people die to get the drugs into this country.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_05: My thing is that blood is on your hands too.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_04: All I was gonna say, you can't br you can't do you wear do you wear um.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I I wear conflict diamonds.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_05: I have a cell phone that has conflict uh minerals in them.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_05: Everything I wear is conflict minerals.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_05: Well, you can look at the government for trying to sell different types of minerals.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_05: Because I'm not trying to make money off anything I'm wearing.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_06: I'm not trying to advance myself.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_06: You can look at the government for selling different types of drugs.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_06: If if you want to look at it, they sell us harmful things for their own property.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_06: Exactly.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_06: Dict equality.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_06: That's what I'm trying to tell you.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_06: So drug dealers aren't capitalists?
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_06: So let me tell you this.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_04: So are we going to blame the government's upbringing, like their parents, for this?
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like forefathers?
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_04: I agree with you, but that's how blaming the homes of these kids and all these teams or whatever.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_04: Holding them accountable.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_04: What about the government?
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_04: I know exactly who people he's talking about.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_07: We can't all take down the government.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_06: Woody like no, we have to take the government.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_07: Um we actually can.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_07: So we can take down the government.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_07: Absolutely.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_07: How come we couldn't take that play?
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_07: How come we couldn't take down the play?
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_04: Like I said, fear.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_08: But like Kanye said, it was a choice.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_08: It's not a choice.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_08: It's the fear.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_08: So we should all just ban this black people and attack the government.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_08: People get a smoke.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_08: Listen, it's black people alone will get 18% of this population.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_08: It's the fear.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_08: Like I keep saying.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_08: It's the fear of them implementing uh martial law and uh we can't do shit.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_08: Think about it.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_08: We're not like their arms.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_04: Think about it.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_04: We don't have to do that.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_04: We can take down government, but if we try to fight them, if we try to fight them violently, we'll fucking lose.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_04: But there's other ways in the world to take down a government.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_04: With our dollar infrastructure.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_04: We spoke about this.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_04: How are we gonna fight them with the stuff?
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_03: We spoke about this too.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_03: You will go.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_03: Guess what?
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna be real with you.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_03: Like I said, if everybody stood the fuck up right now and said fuck this shit and started whatever, the you do you really think that the police are gonna be sitting there trying to fucking do their jobs?
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_03: So why don't we just be home protecting their family?
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_07: So why don't we make black coin instead of using American?
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_07: You don't have the infrastructure.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_07: But somebody can make Bitcoin?
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he has the infrastructure.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_05: White people.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_04: Let me ask you a question.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_04: No, I think it was Asia.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_04: We're gonna make you said make black coin, right?
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_04: Now let me ask you something simple.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_04: Now, I make let's say somebody makes black coin.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna tell you right now, you're not gonna join it, because why?
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_04: You still have that fear of losing all your money over something that's not 100%.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_08: No, it's more like you need uh a hundred million people with a hundred million dollars to do some shit like that.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_04: But I'm just saying, let's say, let's say they created it, you'll still have a bunch of people that's scared to take that.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_04: It's like the stock market.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_04: You can make money off the stock market, but guess what?
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_05: People are scared to lose money.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_05: Black people don't support black people.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_05: Y'all seen what happened in that um that uh that the hair salon?
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_05: No, it was a nail salon where the Asian ladies be.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_05: Not the Asian, not that one.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_05: It was an Asian guy who punched a black woman in the face.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_05: And then the next day they had a half off sale, and all it was only black people buying shit there.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_05: Like I said.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I'm not gonna front.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_03: I think she kind of brought that shit on herself.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't matter.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_04: But that doesn't matter when it's black people, it doesn't matter.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_04: Like black people know what stand together.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_04: Well, that's it.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, it's a nigga with a monkey that's that I'm not buying shit.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_04: What the fuck happened after?
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_04: They had a fucking sale and now they took their two times what they were fucking making.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_04: Because of fucking niggas.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_03: Because the parents of the child spoke out and said that they didn't think anything was wrong with them.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_03: Let me tell you something like that.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_03: That right there.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_03: That like silences everybody because it's like, why do you give a fuck about something that I'm okay with?
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_03: It is not my child.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_04: You know why happening with users or something?
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_04: Because I'm gonna tell you exactly what people don't realize.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_04: What happened behind closed doors?
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_04: HM probably said, yo, we're about to lose a shit ton of money.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_04: Let's pay this family a little bit extra, let them speak out on it, and guess what?
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_04: We're gonna get out there.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_03: You know how many people sold it?
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_03: So the family is probably.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_04: It's about the money.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_03: It's about your moral value.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_03: Everybody has a number.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_04: Everybody has a number of numbers.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_04: Everybody has a number.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_04: It's about how much about how much.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_04: Five million dollars for you to eat a bitch ass, you're gonna do it because you don't have five million dollars today.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_04: And that's something that you don't want to fucking do.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_04: Everybody has a fucking number of what they want to do.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_04: Everybody has everybody can be bought.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_04: Listen, everybody.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_04: So hold on, hold on.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_04: So Amazon No, everybody cannot be bought.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_03: There are some people out there that you cannot.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_03: But listen, that's what I'm saying.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_04: You're saying that that's something that you would say can't be bought, but if the right price came to you, out of here.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_04: That makes it say 200 fucking million, that dick is going in your fucking mouth.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_04: That's what you're gonna say.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_04: You're gonna have circumstances, it can't be recorded, can't nobody know all the people.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_04: No, it's not.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_04: Everybody has a number.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_04: Everybody has a number.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_04: No, it's not.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_04: Everybody has a number.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_04: I give it, I give it.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_04: Y'all admitting y'all gay right now.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_04: It's not about being gay.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_04: You're not admitting about being gay.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_04: Uh-oh.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_04: It's not about being gay.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_04: Uh-oh.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_03: So, how many millions of dollars do you need before you suck a dick's ass?
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know, because the offer never hit the table.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_05: Wow, you have a price.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_05: You can be both how much money you need.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_05: I'm an original man.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_05: Money doesn't mean anything to me.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_05: I'm an original man.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_05: Money does not mean anything to me.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_08: So he just answers the question.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_08: Everybody does not.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_08: No, no, no.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_08: He's saying I'm not a everybody.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_08: I'm talking about y'all.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_08: Money.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_08: No, it depends on how they choose to get what they want.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_08: It could be money and it could be happiness in other forms.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_04: Like what?
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_04: You you think these killers are happy that they're killing people?
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_08: Alright, so every person who doesn't love money and go out there to hustle every night.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_04: What do you mean they don't love money?
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_08: No, no, no, I'm saying, like, so what would be the other thing?
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_08: Every person that's on this planet is not a hustler.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_08: Every person on this planet doesn't say, yo, I need to make two grand tonight.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_08: What can I do?
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_08: And they don't go out there and do what they gotta do to go get it.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_08: Everybody's not like that.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_08: So you can't really be mad at a person for being born a certain way.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_08: But it it has a good percentage to do with the parent, their upbringing.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_08: But it also has to do with the individual and the choices they choose to make.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_08: So just like just like we were talking about, how much money does it cost for you to put a dick in your mouth?
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_08: I don't have this listen.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_08: I don't think there's a number on this planet.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_04: If a nigga came here with$500 million, Ace, I'm sorry to say You be sorry to me.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_04: It's your mouth, you do not put a dick.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_04: I see you being the type to be like, listen, it ain't going to my mouth, I'll lick it for$500 million.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_04: $500 million you don't fucking have that you can move anywhere in the fucking world and get off the fucking radar that nobody knows shit.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_04: 500 million cash?
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_04: Nowhere.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_04: Is it cash?
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_04: Cash.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_04: I don't want to hear shit because you selling your motherfucking sex tape for a million dollars.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_04: But you can't tell me you don't have a price.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_02: That's different.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_02: What do you mean that's different?
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_04: But look, that's what I'm saying.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_04: That's a price for a certain situation.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_04: Every situation has a different price.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_04: If a stool came in with a cash with 500 million cash, he said cash though.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_04: Every situation has a different price.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_03: Guess what?
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_03: Some of those prices are priceless.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_03: You can't be bought.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_04: Listen, I'm telling you right now, if a guy told you straight up right now, yo, all you gotta do for the money.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_04: How much money can I pay you?
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_04: How much money can I pay you to kill my money?
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_04: Now see, a situation like that.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_04: Listen, a situation, a situation like that, a situation like that, I'll tell you right now, it's gonna be a sticky situation.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_04: But I'll tell you right now, you won't you won't even understand, you won't understand the type of shit I'll do.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_04: Because I'll think a lot of shit make you think she's dead, take that money.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, no.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_01: You're gonna kill her in front of me.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_01: And I'll be right back.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_04: In front of you, see now, now this is the bare hands, you gotta strike her.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_04: With the bare hands, that's another price.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_04: Because now, now, now it gotta come.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_04: No, because this is the thing.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_04: Now it comes down to exactly what A said.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_04: What she do.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_04: Now you feel me?
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_04: It gotta be something that really pissed me up.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_04: Everybody have a price.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_04: Because no, everybody has a price.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_04: Everybody has a price, but at the end of the day, now your price may be to kill her, I get 500 million, but you're not thinking about the future price of going to jail and um serving life in jail.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_04: I don't even think you know what?
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_04: You and you have to look at it, you have to look at it, you have to look at it above money.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_06: It's all about self-preservation.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_06: So look, it's all about self-preservation.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_06: It's not really about the money, it's about how I'm gonna survive the day to the day to the day.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_06: Okay then.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_04: But you're making it money.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_04: Five million.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_04: If making a million, you already thought about how you survive in day to day to day.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_05: Um I I I get I get um Chubby's uh point, and I I agree with him to an extent.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_03: Everybody does not have a price.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_03: Everybody is not willing to be born, and you cannot buy a certain shit.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not gonna kill nobody for bread, I disagree.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_01: Like look as far as uh nurturing goes for the chickens you either feel one way about a thing or another.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_01: Me, my personal experience, I used to hang out back when I was in the middle school.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_01: I used to hang out with the uh the dudes in the hood, right?
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_01: I used to hang out with the dudes in the hood just because I wanted to be like cool.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, let me hang out with them.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm hanging out with them, and we go on the jokes one day, and I'm like, yo, that's not cool.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_01: I'd rather chill my friends that talk about wrestling and shit.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_01: Wrestling gay, by the way.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_01: It's all about who you it's all about who you are, son.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_05: Well, he has a DSO.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_05: Anyways, just to get back to the topic at hand, I feel like even though Red disagrees, I feel like um we're we've been desensitized through media more than normal.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_05: When I go onto Twitter and I see a video of somebody getting shot, it's just like that stuff is pretty easy.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_05: But when that stuff wasn't readily available to me, I remember going on World Star, and those videos used to like they didn't even give you a thumbnail.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_05: They had a blank over it, they're like, yo, listen, this is very worn graphic, blah blah blah.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_05: But time's and that shit is easy.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_05: But so you don't think that has an effect on us as humans, but that's also social media.
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_07: Like it's social media though, but if you see it in person, it's different.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_04: Let me tell you something.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_04: Let me tell you something.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, because look at look at look at a very, very thing that we can do.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_03: How often would you see those types of things?
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_04: Not often.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_04: Because look at all these rap rappers popping Zans and all this stuff.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_04: Look at what's the common drug now in these young in these youth.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_05: Lean.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_04: Lean and Zans.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's that's that's what these rappers are fucking pumping now.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_04: Think about it.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_04: That's heroin.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_04: Little pumping.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_04: You feel me?
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_04: Like, and that's what everybody's thinking is cool.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_04: When you see all these rap all these rappers again locked up and being like, oh, for driving without a license, guess what all these kids are starting to do now?
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_04: Drive it out.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_04: Drive without free.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_04: I don't I don't know, okay.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_04: No, people have been doing it.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_04: People have been doing it, but it's more people that's doing it now.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_04: No, it's not.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_03: Shouts to DMX, because he was the first time.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_04: There's more people doing it now thinking it's cool, especially in like my neighbor that I grew up.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_04: There's so many kids I see now that aren't even allowed to get a permit.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_04: And they don't realize the risk of doing it because they're seeing people doing that thinking it's fucking cool.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_08: There's also inconsistencies in the law.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_08: If you don't have a license, therefore there's uh uh less penalties they can give you, less less fines.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_08: And that is true.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_08: If you have a license and it's suspended, you'll get arrested for driving.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_08: But if you don't have a license and you're driving, you get a ticket.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_08: It's it's it's the law.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_08: We're living within between our lines.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_05: Um can we uh just switch gears to this uh Cardi the Cardi B shit?
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_06: So on TMZ, not TMZ, actually it was on TMZ, Cardi B like did like a kind of short sit like semi sitcom joke kind of thing where she played Coretic Caretoscott King in the real housewives of the civil rights movement.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_03: For those of you who don't know how to Coretiscott King is the wife of Dr.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_03: Martin Luther King Jr.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_06: She held it down.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_06: It's not common out.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_03: Listen, a lot of people don't know these things.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_06: Well, the King family is very very offended about this type of issue.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_03: As they should be.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_06: And I feel like do you think it's okay to joke?
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_06: Because people joke about these things all the time.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_06: The Chappelle show.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_06: But they're not jokes, though.
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_05: Martin Luther King definitely cheat on his wife a lot.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_05: The FBI used to go to her all the time, like, look, we have these women set up and it's cheating.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_05: And she said, But why would the FBI?
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_05: She said, verbatim, my this movement is bigger than my marriage.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_05: And she's still fine.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_05: Because they're trying to destroy the black civil rights movement.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_05: Like, are you not going to be able to do that?
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_03: If you destroy the foundation of the household from where the fuck are you gonna march?
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_03: From the head of the movement, then you know what I'm saying?
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_03: It starts a downward spiral.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_06: But going back to the topic.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_03: Shout out to Coretta, she held it down.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, she held it down.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_05: She's a writer now.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_05: She didn't even know that until I just told you that.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_06: I didn't know that.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_06: I didn't know.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_06: Of course not.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_05: You from the South, you should know this.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_06: Anyway.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_06: Not a joke.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_05: This is real life.
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_06: I feel like it's all fire, but okay.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_06: I think I feel like it was all in good satire.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_06: So you would approve that the comedy.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_06: No way.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_06: I said I feel like it was you said Kanye?
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_05: That nigga's got Kanye on the brain, man.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_05: I said comedy, but continue.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_04: Kanye come with five minutes.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_06: What's what you addict?
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_06: Anyway, going back to the topic.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_06: I feel like it was all good.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_06: The viewers don't need to see or hear that.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_06: I feel like it was all in good satire, but certain lines shouldn't be crossed.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_06: Nobody can hear what he says, by the way.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_06: I feel like it was just all in good satire, but I feel like certain things shouldn't be touched on or joked upon.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_05: So what do you mean it was in good satire?
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_05: I don't get that.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, she shouldn't just play.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_05: She just shouldn't have played her.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_05: What do you mean by that?
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_04: With her lifestyle, she should not have took that apartment.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_04: She should not have to be a man.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_04: So if I So if Janet Jackson did it would have been okay?
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_04: Why?
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_04: Because Janet Jackson is more respectable.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, we're gonna get into respect politics soon, nigga.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_04: Glad you said that.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_04: The only thing she really got negative really about is her titty popped out.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_05: I've seen a bottle in her pussy.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_04: Oh wow.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_04: I got the picture.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_04: It's not a fake picture.
• 46:51
  SPEAKER_04: It's not a fake picture.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_04: But this is the thing.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_03: It's the one where she was lounging, right?
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_03: That's not fake.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_03: That was her.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_03: I got those.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_04: When she was outside and the fucking picture.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_04: But this is my thing.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_04: If you look at somebody like Cardi B, Cardi B does not have a good face in public eyes.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_05: Cardi B's job is to entertain.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_05: Cardi B.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_05: What she was doing was trying to entertain.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_05: So I don't understand why who she has to do with the city.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_04: It's just like let's say fucking 6ix9ine goes and try to fucking play fucking some Spanish activist.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_04: People are gonna look like that.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_04: Why can't he do that?
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_04: Because people's gonna look, that is not what you have to do with the city.
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_04: That's different from satire in the actual CV's role.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_04: In a public eye, if I'm thinking you're some ratchet burr bitch.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_04: But it's it listen, it doesn't look good.
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_04: It doesn't look good, bro.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_04: It don't.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_04: It don't.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_04: It don't.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_04: That's like saying fucking okay.
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_04: Look at Will Smith playing Ali and all that.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_04: Nobody's gonna say that.
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_05: Will Smith has done some gay shit.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_04: Why is he allowed to play Ali?
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_04: Ali was a Muslim movie gay shit.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_04: People are looking at Will Smith.
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_05: You've never seen that movie, the first fucking movie?
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_05: Whoa, what gay shit?
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_02: That, unfortunately, what you have to do.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, no, it's not.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_05: Because Denzel didn't have to do that.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_05: What gay shit did Will Smith do?
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_05: I'm asking.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_05: Dentel, I mean, Will Smith was getting fucked on fucking camera as a character on one of his movies.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_05: And what movie is gay shit?
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_04: I can't even tell you what the name of the movie was.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_04: Six degrees of separation.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_04: Some gay shit.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_04: That's what it sounded like to me.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_04: But this is what I'm saying to you.
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_04: Why he allowed to play a Muslim?
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_03: Nah, nah, that was different.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, we're gonna defend Will Smith now.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_04: Big Willie time.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_04: Because look at look at Will Smith in the public eye.
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_03: He's someone who can be looked at as a positive fucking figure.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_04: I agree with him.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_04: That's why.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_08: His point is if he did that, why is he allowed to play a Muslim?
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_04: Because people are still looking at Will Smith as a positive figure.
• 48:38
  SPEAKER_04: Bullshit.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_04: A positive figure.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_04: Niggas is not looking at Cardi B as a positive figure.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_05: What is positive or negative?
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_05: You know Robert Downey Jr.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_05: who's playing fucking Iron Man who kissed love around the world.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_05: That nigga was a fucking fiend.
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_05: He was an addict for most of his life.
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_08: Just like acting is for other people.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_08: That's why this kids are not going to be able to do that.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_04: I like how this always goes back to Kanye.
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_04: And if a lot of politics are if Kanye were to try to sit there and play Martin Luther King, I guarantee people would have a fucking problem.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_05: So okay, so can we still play Martin Luther King?
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_04: Hell no.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_05: Anybody can play anybody.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_04: It's acting like my eyes, no.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_04: I wouldn't want meat Melissa.
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_04: What movies do we want?
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_03: So why the fuck do I want Caretta's Cardi B playing Coretta's?
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_03: That's what I'm saying.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_08: Does any of us know who played Tupac Chicago before he played Tupac Shakole?
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_08: Nah.
• 49:23
  SPEAKER_08: Oh alright.
• 49:23
  SPEAKER_08: So but that was cool.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it should be.
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_08: Exactly.
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_04: What are you talking about in the new movie that just came out?
• 49:28
  SPEAKER_08: Any movie.
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_08: Any Tupac movie, did you know the person?
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_08: Give him the mic, give him the mic.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_04: Repeat yourself.
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_08: Any Tupac movie, did you know the lead actor before the movie was a big thing?
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_08: Tupac was an actor himself.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_08: I don't know why we hold him to this pedestal either.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_08: No, it's not.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_04: If I don't know anything about you in my eye, I'm obviously.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_04: Who gives a fuck about your eye?
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_04: But she's playing a role.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_04: She's not playing a role.
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, it doesn't matter.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_04: She's not a positive figure.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_04: It's like saying, it's like saying the clout.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_04: I'm about to leave.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_04: I'm leaving.
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_04: Clout is okay.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_04: So look, so I don't have the I don't have the activist clout.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_04: If Cardi B were to go and do that to Aretha Frank, you think niggas will be okay with it?
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_04: No.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_04: I mean Aretha Frank just died.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_03: I would have respected to Jerry P.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_03: Hansen playing Corona Scott King before this bitch.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_03: You feel me?
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_03: Why?
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_03: Just because she's black?
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_03: No, it's not even black.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_03: Isn't Cardi half black?
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_05: I listen.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_05: Trinidadian.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so she's black.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_05: It depends on who you ask.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_03: Whatever.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_03: She's black.
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_03: Um some trainees would be like, she Spanish.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_03: Whatever.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_03: Whatever the fuck.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_03: But like I said, people are black too.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_03: She's not your public image.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_03: She's unsavorable in certain motherfuckers.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_05: Because everybody's going to look at it.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_05: It's like a slab.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_05: But what if she's just this is not the case, but if Cardi B was a great actress, she should be able to play anything.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I don't know.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_05: She's not.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_05: But that's why I brought up the Will Smith thing.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_05: If Muhammad Ali's family came out and said, I don't want this gay nigga playing my dad because we're Muslim.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_05: No, but if they did, but it would have removed that.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_05: No, but the point I'm trying to make is you can't discredit her just because of who she is as a person if her acting skills are there.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna put it to you like this.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_03: It's not about me discrediting her.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_03: What I'm saying about exactly representing her.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_03: But this is acting.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_03: I think I get it.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_03: I think I get it.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_03: I disagree.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_03: I disagree.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_08: So you're saying it doesn't matter what she what what she's known as, her acting skills shouldn't discredit the role.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_08: So how about the people who only know the movie and the the story behind the movie because Cardi B is attached to it and now they think of the lead singer, the the uh the main characters, yeah, they're associated with that.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_08: That's just ignorant.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_08: That's like that's like let's say because they're uninformed.
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, that's ignorant.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_08: Let's say we got to the bottom of it, though.
• 51:49
  SPEAKER_04: Let's say Kim Cli Kim went and played one of those roles.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_04: People are gonna look at it the same way because of what she's known for.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_05: You know, there's a lot of good actors that were bad people.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_05: I just gave you guys two examples.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_04: I understand that.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_04: Even fucking Charlie Sheen, good actor, terrible person.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know about good actors.
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_05: But uh all I know is that we we give a lot of uh um yeah, the nigga from the.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_05: So you feel like everybody should be getting a chance.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_05: No, if they're good, because this is my personal opinion on Cardi B.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_05: I don't want her in the in the in the house of hip-hop because I think she's making a mockery of hip-hop.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_05: I think she has a great personality.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_03: So she's okay with being in the house of the kings?
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_04: If she's playing a person, so let me ask you a question.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_04: So let me ask you a question.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_04: If there was a movie and they had fucking Post Malone um acting as John F.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_04: Kennedy, you don't think people are gonna look at him like that?
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_04: No, I don't know.
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_04: That's the problem as long as Post Malone is doing a good job playing John F.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_04: Kennedy.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_04: Hell no, people gonna look at it like a big thing.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_04: The problem with Post Malone is that he's making money off of something.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_04: But people still look at it, like look at the way you're fucking talking about certain shit and they're gonna be.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_04: I disagree because then like I said, Robert Downey.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_07: But I'm just saying Say Mason Mandela.
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_05: No, but that doesn't make any sense.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_05: Who's Mason Mandela?
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_05: Mason Mandela.
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_05: No, Mason Mandela.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_05: Nah, he's this guy is so uneducated.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_05: So Nelson.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_05: Don't act like you knew who he was talking about either.
• 53:07
  SPEAKER_06: Nelson, please, please.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_06: Nah, I was talking about Mason Mandela.
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_05: That's that's just the point I was trying to make.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_05: So wait, okay, so let me ask you.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_04: I think the skit was garbage.
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_04: It was terrible.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_04: So let me ask you a question from the question.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_04: If Osama went and played Gandhi, right?
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_04: And his acting was perfect.
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he could play Gandhi, but he also gotta go to jail.
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_04: Fucking bug it.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_04: Fucking bug it.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_04: I understand.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_03: I understand where you're coming from.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_03: Totally.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_03: But let's be real.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_03: In the eyes of anybody who's fucking real cognitive, she ain't the person to fucking play that role.
• 53:41
  SPEAKER_05: I disagree with you, bro.
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_05: She did a terrible job because this was a terribly written script.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_05: The guy said it himself.
• 53:47
  SPEAKER_05: He took all the blame because the jokes weren't funny, and blah blah blah blah blah.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_05: He's like, oh, TMZ didn't give you guys the full scope of everything, the guy that made it.
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_05: And he said that you're making jokes?
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_05: Come on, man.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_05: It was a joke, it was sad to her.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_05: But she's gonna- that's the role she was given.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_05: So are you gonna blame her?
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_05: If I write that, if I write that.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you can definitely blame her.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_04: I agree with you.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_04: You know why?
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_04: You know why?
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_04: You write bad.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_04: I gotta read the script before I fucking say it.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_04: I can look like, yo, this is fucking terrible.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_04: Did y'all see Tropic Thunder?
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_04: But then again, you can't expect that.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_04: I actually like that movie.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_03: You can't expect that from Cardi.
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_04: Why?
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_08: Look at it.
• 54:17
  SPEAKER_08: Because she doesn't know better is basically what she knows better.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_08: Okay, then so why is she playing a lot of a lot of things?
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_05: Did y'all see Tropic Thunder?
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_05: Robert Downey Jr.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_05: literally plays a black person.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_05: But it's satire.
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_05: So he was in blackface for the sake of pointing out how ignorant blackface is.
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_05: Like that was the whole point of his character.
• 54:37
  SPEAKER_05: Look how far method acting can go in.
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_05: That is except if I'm good enough, I can do blackface.
• 54:43
  SPEAKER_05: That was nobody was offended.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_05: And that was no, people were offended.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, Brandon T.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_05: Jackson was offended.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_05: He was like, What do you mean, you people?
• 54:49
  SPEAKER_05: That was the funniest fucking line in the movie.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_05: So it just goes to show you to you.
• 54:53
  SPEAKER_05: It just goes to show you that overly.
• 54:55
  SPEAKER_05: As long as you're yeah, nobody was outraged.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_05: You didn't see Black Twitter like, yo, fuck my own.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_05: That's what I'm saying.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_05: Because he did a good fucking job.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_05: So that's the point I'm trying to make is as long as the product is good.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_05: If this skit was good, do you think we'd be sitting here talking shit about Cardi B?
• 55:07
  SPEAKER_05: Some people would grant it.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_05: But if it was a good product, everybody would be like, oh shit, Cardi B killed the title.
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_03: I personally wouldn't be talking about the bitch if you was if y'all didn't bring her up on the podcast.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, I and I understand that, but what if she did an excellent job?
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_05: I can give a fuck about it.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_05: What if she did an excellent job in a movie or a show that you like?
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_05: What if she was on power and she killed her role?
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_05: You wouldn't you wouldn't be you wouldn't be giving her credit?
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_05: That's crabbing if I'm gonna do the job.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_05: That's that's terrible.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_03: Well, first off, how the fuck are y'all even gonna make up my mind before I even say what the fuck I was gonna say?
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_03: Go ahead, go ahead.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, it's not gonna give credit where credit's due.
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_05: Your partner in crime made up your mind for you.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_05: That's him.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_05: Alright, so you would give her the credit.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_03: I agreed on what?
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_05: No, I'm just asking.
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_05: You would give her the credit.
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I said, yeah, I said, I give her credit where credit's due if she did a good job.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, and that's all the point I was trying to make.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_03: Um rapping, she sucks.
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_03: Actually, I agree.
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_05: That's debatable.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, acting is definitely debatable, bro.
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_03: So you're saying that her acting was good.
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_05: And that one thing it was terrible.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_05: But that was a terrible.
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_05: So she was on a whole show loving hip hop.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_05: That's acting.
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_05: You feel like that was that was her true self?
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, no.
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_05: That was acting.
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_05: That was absolutely herself.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_05: The only thing she acted was when she acted like she was fucking DJ's self.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_05: But we could that's the whole difference.
• 56:12
  SPEAKER_03: The only thing she acted like she acted like she writes her own fucking music.
• 56:15
  SPEAKER_05: I don't think she's ever did that either.
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, she did.
• 56:17
  SPEAKER_05: I don't think so.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_07: I don't think she's gone on a tangent about saying I write my own material, I practice everything.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna send you the uh the rant?
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, okay, cool.
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_05: So we all we all understand that the Cardi B shit was insensitive.
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_05: That shit was black.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, but was it insensitive?
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_05: It wasn't as a black Native American.
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, cool.
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_05: As a Southern black, did that offend you?
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_05: I did not.
• 56:45
  SPEAKER_05: So nobody was offended by that shit.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_03: You know what it is I don't care about her enough to be offended by anything that she does.
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_05: I ain't see the shit, so you don't see anything.
• 56:53
  SPEAKER_05: Alright, that's cool.
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_05: Uh we can rap on that.
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_05: But uh, Red brought up a topic of respectability, right?
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_05: And I was on black Twitter, like I normally am, and they brought up this debate.
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_05: So I'm gonna present you to two women.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_05: One is Erica Baudu.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_05: She has three kids by three different men, and she's like praised, right?
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_05: Erica Badu is a praised woman, you would say.
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_05: You don't think she's a praised woman?
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_05: She's praised, she's praised, she's praised.
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_03: She's praised in the in the certain circle.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_05: In the black circle, she's definitely praised.
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_03: Come on, no, you cannot disagree there.
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_05: She's what is she painted as?
• 57:30
  SPEAKER_05: A black queen.
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_03: Like they've they've actually kind of painted her to be a bit of a fucking crazy person.
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, no, I agree with that.
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_05: But is she ever looked at as a hoe?
• 57:38
  SPEAKER_03: Uh no.
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_03: I don't I don't think so.
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_05: So then we have Black China, who has three kids, three different baby dads.
• 57:46
  SPEAKER_05: But that's the way she portrays herself, though.
• 57:48
  SPEAKER_05: Whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 57:49
  SPEAKER_05: Black China doesn't portray herself in a different manner.
• 57:51
  SPEAKER_05: How?
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_03: Zap, zap, zap.
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_03: Let him finish.
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_03: Let me finish.
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_05: She's about to have a kid by the NBA and all that.
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_05: What's the other nigga's name?
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_05: The 18-year-old kid.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_07: Is she really?
• 58:01
  SPEAKER_07: That was the rumor.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_07: I don't think she's doing that.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_07: That's the rumor.
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_06: She was just at a retirement.
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_05: She was just let's just pretend she has three kids for the sake of this argument.
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 58:09
  SPEAKER_05: That's what they were saying.
• 58:10
  SPEAKER_05: So, why is one a hoe and one is not?
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_05: Because the way she trades.
• 58:13
  SPEAKER_06: Erica Badu was in six flags throwing a car?
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_06: Wait, that makes you a hoe?
• 58:16
  SPEAKER_06: Let me ask you a question.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_04: That makes you an unfair parent.
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_04: Let me ask you a question.
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_04: Was Erica Badu in these videos half naked?
• 58:23
  SPEAKER_04: With Erica Badu getting out of here.
• 58:25
  SPEAKER_04: Erica Badu is known about having a fat ass.
• 58:27
  SPEAKER_03: Erica Badu, wasn't she in that video running butt ass naked?
• 58:30
  SPEAKER_03: Butt ass naked.
• 58:32
  SPEAKER_05: Then she had a video where she was pouring.
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_05: She was pouring fat.
• 58:37
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not giving you a pound no more.
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_05: You should have never gave him a pound.
• 58:41
  SPEAKER_05: She had that video on World Star where she broke.
• 58:44
  SPEAKER_05: That's it.
• 58:44
  SPEAKER_05: Full frontal nudity.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_05: She was pouring chocolate and shit.
• 58:49
  SPEAKER_03: Does anybody even know which song?
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know a single song by Erica Badu.
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, was there any sort of social consciousness?
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_00: C C the Children really masturbated Erica Buddha.
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_03: Was there any sort of social consciousness in this?
• 59:00
  unknown: There was a message behind all that.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_03: Nakedness and chocolate is not a little bit of art.
• 59:03
  SPEAKER_03: No, no, no, not the chocolate shit.
• 59:05
  SPEAKER_02: So why was the chocolate shit?
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_02: That was art.
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_07: So why was the chocolate shit?
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_07: I'm not asking you to talk about it.
• 59:17
  SPEAKER_05: First of all, but no, but that was the act.
• 59:20
  SPEAKER_05: That was the acting role.
• 59:21
  SPEAKER_04: That was an acting role.
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_04: What are you talking about?
• 59:25
  SPEAKER_04: Black China's out here hoeing.
• 59:26
  SPEAKER_05: How?
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_05: Erica Multiple.
• 59:28
  SPEAKER_05: She was a stripper.
• 59:28
  SPEAKER_05: Let me ask you a question.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, that's one that's one concrete thing you have.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_05: She was a stripper to bust it open.
• 59:34
  SPEAKER_05: No, you can't prove that.
• 59:35
  SPEAKER_04: Let me ask you a question.
• 59:35
  SPEAKER_04: Let me ask you a third question.
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_08: Is the stripper necessarily a hoe?
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_04: In this generation?
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_04: And this generation?
• 59:48
  SPEAKER_07: You have to hoe for your money in this blogging.
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_03: No, no, but to an extent.
• 59:52
  SPEAKER_03: You have to hold it.
• 59:53
  SPEAKER_07: Because look, I can't just I can't I can't just walk over to you.
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_07: Hey, how you doing?
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_07: How's your day going?
• 59:59
  SPEAKER_07: You're not gonna just throw money at you.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_04: But let me ask you, let me ask you.
• 1:00:03
  SPEAKER_07: But if I put my ass on you and do all this, I'm gonna get more money.
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_04: You know why I'm gonna say is I'm gonna say you have tendency.
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_04: So you're hustling now.
• 1:00:09
  SPEAKER_04: No, you know why I'm gonna say you have whole tendencies?
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_04: Could put like this.
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_04: Put like this.
• 1:00:13
  SPEAKER_04: What are we raised as children?
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_04: Your body is sacred, your body's supposed to be covered this and third.
• 1:00:17
  SPEAKER_04: If you're willing to show me your own side of money.
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_04: You're on my side.
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_04: Why are you yelling at me?
• 1:00:22
  SPEAKER_04: What's the difference between that and prostitution?
• 1:00:24
  SPEAKER_03: Were you taught?
• 1:00:24
  SPEAKER_03: Were you taught that your body's a temple?
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_04: He's lying.
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_04: Look at this thing.
• 1:00:28
  SPEAKER_04: I was taught that, but guess what?
• 1:00:29
  SPEAKER_04: I made up my mind to do my own thing.
• 1:00:32
  SPEAKER_04: I made up my mind to do my own thing.
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_04: But I'm not doing it for money.
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_04: I'm not doing it for money.
• 1:00:37
  SPEAKER_04: And does okay, does stripping, does stripping not lead to them being prostitutes and all that shit?
• 1:00:41
  SPEAKER_04: No.
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_04: Not all the time.
• 1:00:43
  SPEAKER_07: Not at all.
• 1:00:44
  SPEAKER_07: No!
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_04: Can we say majority time?
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_05: Erica Badu in Black China police.
• 1:00:49
  SPEAKER_01: Can we just first clarify what makes a hoe a hoe?
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  SPEAKER_01: What is a hoe?
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  SPEAKER_01: Me for me?
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  SPEAKER_01: Fucking for money.
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  SPEAKER_05: That's the old definition for me.
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  SPEAKER_05: No, no, I disagree.
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  SPEAKER_05: No, you can't say benefit off of it.
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  SPEAKER_05: It gotta be money.
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  SPEAKER_05: No, I've never fucked for money.
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  SPEAKER_04: I've never fucked for money.
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  SPEAKER_04: That's why I'm saying it can't be benefit.
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  SPEAKER_04: It gotta be benefit.
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  SPEAKER_04: It gotta be money.
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  SPEAKER_08: If it could be uh shelter over your children's house.
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  SPEAKER_08: That's not a hoe.
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  SPEAKER_07: I mean a head.
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  SPEAKER_07: So she's just doing what she gotta do.
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  SPEAKER_06: So black China is just having kids with all these big with all these hypothetical rappers.
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  SPEAKER_06: Why can't she have a person?
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  SPEAKER_06: But she was in a relationship.
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  SPEAKER_06: Why can't she have a kid with a regular person?
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  SPEAKER_06: Why can't she have a kid with a regular person in?
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  SPEAKER_05: She was in a relationship.
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  SPEAKER_05: Why can't she have a kid?
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  SPEAKER_05: Erika Badu's kids are with all rappers too.
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  SPEAKER_04: So what the fuck?
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  SPEAKER_04: Okay, but she's in the industry.
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  SPEAKER_04: So is black China.
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  SPEAKER_04: Let me ask you a question.
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  SPEAKER_04: Let me ask you a question.
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  SPEAKER_04: Was Erica Badu's kids out of relationships?
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  SPEAKER_04: I think two of them.
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  SPEAKER_04: Andre 3000.
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  SPEAKER_04: Now, Black China's kids out of relationships?
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  SPEAKER_04: Rob Kardashian's.
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  SPEAKER_04: Alright then.
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  SPEAKER_06: Rob Kardashian was a come up.
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  SPEAKER_06: They were all in relationships.
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  SPEAKER_06: Rob Kardashian was a come up.
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  SPEAKER_05: Rob Kardashian was a come-up.
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  SPEAKER_05: But they were in a relationship.
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  SPEAKER_05: Okay, you know how I'm playing a role.
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  SPEAKER_05: Okay, I'm gonna put this out.
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  SPEAKER_05: That wasn't a real gossip.
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  SPEAKER_05: Let's go.
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  SPEAKER_00: Can you prove it?
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna attract the 300 pound white guy.
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  SPEAKER_00: What's the problem with the guy?
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  SPEAKER_00: But would we date a 300 pound white guy if he didn't have money?
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  SPEAKER_00: Bro, what I'm asking you.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm asking you that has to do with can you she was home for a specific reason?
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  SPEAKER_05: Prove that to me.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yes, I can.
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  SPEAKER_04: I can hurt because you know why?
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  SPEAKER_04: Because Rob had the kid at me, bro.
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  SPEAKER_04: She was dating Rob.
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  SPEAKER_04: She was dating a black guy with an epic robot at the kid.
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  SPEAKER_04: But let's say, look, she had a kid in it, Ferrari.
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  SPEAKER_04: She fucking with Rob and cheating with the other motherfucker.
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  SPEAKER_05: Ferrari.
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  SPEAKER_05: Ferrari.
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  SPEAKER_05: So you've never been cheated on.
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  SPEAKER_04: I've been cheated on the road.
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  SPEAKER_04: So that relationship but what do I look at?
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  SPEAKER_05: If I get cheated on what do I want to do?
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  SPEAKER_07: She was dating him for an opportunity.
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  SPEAKER_05: You cannot prove none of that.
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  SPEAKER_05: So you're gonna brought a cat.
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  SPEAKER_05: A track record, you can.
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  SPEAKER_05: How?
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  SPEAKER_05: Because she's cleaning at me.
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  SPEAKER_05: Because I'm passionate about hoes?
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  SPEAKER_05: Yes, no, you're not.
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  SPEAKER_05: You gave me that whole too.
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  SPEAKER_05: All the women is photoshoes.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I know.
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  SPEAKER_05: You said bitches.
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  SPEAKER_04: I ain't no hoes.
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  SPEAKER_05: You're about I ain't no hoe.
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  SPEAKER_05: And you a woman, too.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, right.
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  SPEAKER_04: But like I said, black China's track record.
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  SPEAKER_05: He would be the record.
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  SPEAKER_05: Wait, wait.
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  SPEAKER_05: Can we be able to say what did she start doing?
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  SPEAKER_06: What Erica Badu Erica Badu, what?
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  SPEAKER_06: She started rapping, right?
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  SPEAKER_06: No, she was a singer.
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  SPEAKER_07: Singer rapping, she's raped, though.
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  SPEAKER_07: But regardless, making music, making music, making music.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yes, she's a good thing.
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  SPEAKER_05: I want to know what point you're trying to prove.
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  SPEAKER_05: You're a big thing.
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  SPEAKER_06: Black China's track record was hoeing for money.
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  SPEAKER_05: No, that was not her track record.
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  SPEAKER_05: She was a stripper for her.
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  SPEAKER_05: Her track record was she was a stripper.
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  SPEAKER_05: Alright, so the magic question.
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  SPEAKER_05: She potentially turned into a hustle.
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  SPEAKER_05: Is Cardi B a hoe?
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  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_05: I don't think so.
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  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
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  unknown: I think she's a hustler.
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  SPEAKER_05: So tell me how So she's using a she's using a pussy for hustles.
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  SPEAKER_05: Oh my goodness.
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  SPEAKER_08: I didn't necessarily say she was hustling pussy, but you don't know.
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  SPEAKER_05: Ow! Child support! That's a hustle now?
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  SPEAKER_05: Can you tell me the hell?
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  SPEAKER_04: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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  SPEAKER_04: So hold on, hold on.
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  SPEAKER_04: Cardi B?
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  SPEAKER_04: Hold on, hold on.
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  SPEAKER_04: Hold on.
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  SPEAKER_04: So hold on, hold on.
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  SPEAKER_04: Child support.
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  SPEAKER_04: I say Cardi B is a hustle.
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  SPEAKER_04: I thought you said.
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  SPEAKER_04: So wait, so wait, so so wait.
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  SPEAKER_04: What's so bad about child support?
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  SPEAKER_04: Please explain this to me.
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  SPEAKER_04: What did you think?
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  SPEAKER_07: Can you Okay, let me ask you a question?
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  SPEAKER_04: Let me ask you.
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  SPEAKER_07: Paul George! Let me ask you a question.
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  SPEAKER_04: But let me ask you a question.
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  SPEAKER_04: So he doesn't have to pay what?
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  SPEAKER_05: Are you out of your phone?
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  SPEAKER_05: So you don't have to pay what?
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  SPEAKER_05: Let me tell you another challenge.
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  SPEAKER_04: You know how?
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  SPEAKER_04: That's right, because that's how you're talking about.
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  SPEAKER_07: And wasn't she a stripper?
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  SPEAKER_04: Can you strip it?
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  SPEAKER_04: If you can't.
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  SPEAKER_04: Let me explain something to you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Would she be attracted to Paul George?
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  SPEAKER_04: Speculating.
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  SPEAKER_04: Let me explain something to you.
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  SPEAKER_04: Would she be attracted to Paul George?
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  SPEAKER_04: Strongly speculated.
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  SPEAKER_04: But I'm presenting you facts.
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  SPEAKER_04: You know what's messed up about Paul George's situation?
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  SPEAKER_04: What?
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  SPEAKER_04: He offered Shorty money to get rid of the kid.
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  SPEAKER_04: That's where he fucked up in his situation.
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  SPEAKER_04: That's why it looks so bad.
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  SPEAKER_06: And then it's just like, well, she's having the kid.
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  SPEAKER_06: I don't want to go on child support.
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  SPEAKER_04: And why'd he double down and get another kid then if you don't want to put it?
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  SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_04: He's already known.
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  SPEAKER_04: If he was a smart person, you know what he would have done?
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  SPEAKER_04: You know he'd have done.
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  SPEAKER_04: He could have just made a pay child support.
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  SPEAKER_04: I would have put myself on child support and paid less.
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  SPEAKER_04: At the end of the day, you knew you had a kid.
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  SPEAKER_04: You knew you were laying down.
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  SPEAKER_04: You knew what the fuck you was doing.
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  SPEAKER_04: So what are you telling me?
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  SPEAKER_04: What are you telling me?
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  SPEAKER_04: You could see, and that's why you're talking about the city.
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  SPEAKER_04: Nobody can sit here and say child support.
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  SPEAKER_04: Because at the end of the day, if you're doing what you're supposed to do, they're not going to put you in child support.
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  SPEAKER_04: I'm going to reign.
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  SPEAKER_05: What?
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm going to rank.
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  SPEAKER_04: What?
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  SPEAKER_05: This nigga that buy papers hang out with their kids.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm going to rein on the topic again.
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  SPEAKER_04: I want y'all to tell me why one of these are respectable because if you had a kid and you got caught cheating less than what?
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  SPEAKER_05: How I just need somebody to answer a question.
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  SPEAKER_03: Please.
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  SPEAKER_03: Erica Baidu, regardless of that, one time she was in a video with chocolate syrup.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: But at the end of the day, that was the art.
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  SPEAKER_03: She's an artist.
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  SPEAKER_03: She's a singer.
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  SPEAKER_03: She composes music.
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  SPEAKER_03: What does black China is?
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  SPEAKER_03: Black China's a host of artist.
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  SPEAKER_03: A business woman.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm listening.
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  SPEAKER_05: An opportunist?
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  SPEAKER_05: A business woman.
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  SPEAKER_05: What is she what her what are her businesses?
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  SPEAKER_05: She has Um eyelash line and she models for fashion over.
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  SPEAKER_05: So she's also, I'm speaking.
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  SPEAKER_05: She's also a video vixen.
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  SPEAKER_05: So basically, all the girls on Instagram.
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  SPEAKER_03: What does she really have?
• 1:06:08
  SPEAKER_03: What does she really do?
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  SPEAKER_05: Those three things that I told you.
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  SPEAKER_05: She makes more money than anybody in this room.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay, because she has a fucking a business.
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  SPEAKER_05: No, you see?
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  SPEAKER_05: You can't see it.
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  SPEAKER_05: Black China is not known for eyelashes.
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  SPEAKER_05: What are you talking about?
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  SPEAKER_05: Do you buy eyelashes, nigga?
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  SPEAKER_05: How the fuck would you know?
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  SPEAKER_05: How would you know?
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  SPEAKER_05: You are gossiping, my dude.
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  SPEAKER_06: I don't think so.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you don't think so, but these are her businesses.
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  SPEAKER_07: People don't just Google Black China to say eyelashes.
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  SPEAKER_03: Those may be a business's never equipment.
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  SPEAKER_03: A business is equated from a home.
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  SPEAKER_03: They are profitable.
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  SPEAKER_05: From the gossip, they gotta bring it to me, maybe, but no strong speculation.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm sorry.
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  SPEAKER_05: That's that's the word.
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  SPEAKER_03: So you don't think she's using those bullshit businesses?
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  SPEAKER_05: They're not bullshit, they're from her platform.
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  SPEAKER_03: For her platform, right.
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  SPEAKER_05: Because she's the brand.
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  SPEAKER_03: She was a regular bitch on the corner.
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  SPEAKER_05: I know.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but they're not profitable, my nigga.
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  SPEAKER_05: They need to step their gate.
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  SPEAKER_05: Because I don't know them personally.
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  unknown: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: How if you hear me.
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  SPEAKER_03: The only reason why she is who she or whatever is because she was a fucking video hoe and no, because she got a kid.
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  SPEAKER_05: She was in a video hoe before.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm not gonna buy the word hoe, my nigga.
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  SPEAKER_05: She was a video hoe rapper.
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  SPEAKER_05: You cannot prove future.
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  SPEAKER_05: She was fucking future.
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  SPEAKER_05: You cannot prove nothing in this shit.
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  SPEAKER_05: It's all speculation.
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  SPEAKER_05: Video of her fucking?
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  SPEAKER_05: There's nothing in the shit.
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  SPEAKER_05: It's the video of her sucking dick.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, a partner of her.
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  SPEAKER_05: Wait, but a partner.
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  SPEAKER_03: Who she was getting paid from.
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  SPEAKER_05: What do you mean?
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  SPEAKER_03: That nigga paid her.
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  SPEAKER_05: Do we post?
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  SPEAKER_05: Like what happens?
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  SPEAKER_05: Okay, so I'm gonna we're gonna agree to describe it.
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  SPEAKER_05: Carrying themselves, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Her body's not altered.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, she's actually she's older too, much older.
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  SPEAKER_01: So she's definitely.
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  SPEAKER_03: She comes from a different a different place.
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  SPEAKER_03: So she was home in the episode era.
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  SPEAKER_05: King Chubb just signing out.
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  SPEAKER_05: So if you have three kids at a wedlock, you automatically hoe?
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  unknown: No.
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  SPEAKER_03: For sure.
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  SPEAKER_03: It just means you have poor pussy management.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: Alright.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I want y'all to look at every woman.
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  SPEAKER_05: But they don't want to get married.
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  SPEAKER_05: I want you to look at every woman you know that has three has three kids at a wedlock and let them know that they have a lot of people.
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  SPEAKER_05: Okay, three by three different fathers?
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  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but all of uh, okay, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm pretty sure we can all look around and find somebody not like.
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  SPEAKER_05: Black China's own have been too.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_05: You see, I just think there's a hypocritical undertone here.
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  SPEAKER_05: And as a feminist, I want to make sure that all women are treated.
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  SPEAKER_01: How do you see it?
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  SPEAKER_05: How do you see both of those women?
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  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_05: Black China was dealt a very difficult hand in life because she started off.
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  SPEAKER_05: Oh, wait.
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  SPEAKER_05: So you're gonna, oh my god, and roll your eyes to that.
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  SPEAKER_05: But when we were talking about those ignorant black kids that's out here shooting people, you gave them a pass.
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  SPEAKER_05: Get the fuck out of here.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I'm gonna call out the hypocrisy.
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  SPEAKER_05: That's bullshit.
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  SPEAKER_05: If you can't agree, if you can agree that a kid that didn't have the right pass in his life, right guidance, okay.
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  SPEAKER_05: Black China had the same problem.
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  SPEAKER_05: Black China's mom's shitty.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, look at her, look at her upbringing.
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  SPEAKER_05: She had a negative model.
• 1:09:21
  SPEAKER_05: She didn't just say that.
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  SPEAKER_05: She said it a while back.
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  SPEAKER_03: But no, what I said, she just said she had to subdive.
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  SPEAKER_05: She had to suck dictative feed for her family.
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  SPEAKER_05: And that's her, that's her in the middle.
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  SPEAKER_05: That's her model as a mother.
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  SPEAKER_05: So if you're gonna give those black kids a pass for their life, all right.
• 1:09:35
  SPEAKER_01: So get back to what you think about uh black women.
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  SPEAKER_05: I think the hand that she was dealt, she did a lot with, and she made herself a businesswoman.
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  SPEAKER_05: And I can respect that.
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  SPEAKER_05: You know, this is also the guy that wants to give everybody information this way.
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  SPEAKER_05: What is the business?
• 1:09:52
  SPEAKER_05: Wait, what business?
• 1:09:53
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, for Black China.
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  SPEAKER_05: What is the business?
• 1:09:55
  SPEAKER_05: First of all, her name itself is the business, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: She's she's built a business.
• 1:09:59
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, she can go to any of these clubs and get a money or appearance.
• 1:10:02
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it appears.
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  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_05: She has an eyelash line.
• 1:10:04
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 1:10:06
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, like she sells lip gloss and shit like that, man.
• 1:10:08
  SPEAKER_05: The same thing that y'all praise Kylie for.
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  unknown: No, exactly.
• 1:10:10
  SPEAKER_05: I don't praise Kylie.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm a man.
• 1:10:12
  SPEAKER_05: Nigga, you're a Kardashian too, nigga.
• 1:10:14
  SPEAKER_05: What the fuck?
• 1:10:15
  SPEAKER_05: You support Kylie and you're a Kardashian about the fault.
• 1:10:17
  SPEAKER_05: What the fuck?
• 1:10:18
  SPEAKER_05: Alright, I expect.
• 1:10:18
  SPEAKER_05: So Travis guy is a Kardashian?
• 1:10:19
  SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
• 1:10:20
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, but continue.
• 1:10:21
  SPEAKER_05: So uh And Erica Badu is the same thing.
• 1:10:23
  SPEAKER_05: I just don't understand why they're not judged the same way.
• 1:10:25
  SPEAKER_05: I'm a feminist and equality is a good thing.
• 1:10:26
  SPEAKER_05: I guess it's I mean, just yeah, it's the way they I guess they the way they catch it.
• 1:10:29
  SPEAKER_06: Eric Abadu doesn't have a fake ass.
• 1:10:31
  SPEAKER_06: Erica Badu.
• 1:10:32
  SPEAKER_05: How you know?
• 1:10:33
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, nigga, that ass is real.
• 1:10:34
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my goodness.
• 1:10:38
  SPEAKER_01: I am going to tell y'all the video.
• 1:10:39
  SPEAKER_01: The masturbator.
• 1:10:42
  SPEAKER_01: It's window seat by Erica Badu.
• 1:10:44
  SPEAKER_01: It's in black and white, I believe.
• 1:10:45
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 1:10:45
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 1:10:46
  SPEAKER_01: It's not.
• 1:10:47
  SPEAKER_01: It's not in black and white.
• 1:10:48
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 1:10:48
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah.
• 1:10:49
  unknown: Damn, yep.
• 1:10:51
  SPEAKER_01: Masturbation.
• 1:10:52
  SPEAKER_01: Said window seat.
• 1:10:53
  SPEAKER_01: I was so happy when I found that video on demand because I caught it on MTV.
• 1:10:57
  SPEAKER_01: And you know how you can't get it back until like hours later?
• 1:10:59
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, damn, son.
• 1:11:01
  SPEAKER_01: I seen it on demand.
• 1:11:02
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, all right.
• 1:11:04
  SPEAKER_05: Since we're talking about women, feminism, inequality, can we talk about uh Ace's topic about should a woman go to jail for false accusation?
• 1:11:12
  SPEAKER_05: Should a woman go to jail?
• 1:11:14
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 1:11:15
  SPEAKER_05: She should.
• 1:11:15
  SPEAKER_05: For can you leave, nigga?
• 1:11:18
  SPEAKER_05: Damn.
• 1:11:19
  SPEAKER_05: For false.
• 1:11:20
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, I'm gonna get the topic out.
• 1:11:21
  SPEAKER_05: Should a woman go to jail for false accusation of rape?
• 1:11:25
  SPEAKER_05: I believe this topic came up because there was a football player that uh it was actually two of them that shit.
• 1:11:30
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, there's a long time ago, right?
• 1:11:31
  SPEAKER_05: That football player shit?
• 1:11:32
  SPEAKER_05: No, she accused- I don't know, I don't think it was that long.
• 1:11:34
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know what their name is.
• 1:11:36
  SPEAKER_05: So she accused Yeah, LeVar Island.
• 1:11:40
  SPEAKER_05: The woman's name was what?
• 1:11:41
  SPEAKER_05: We gotta put on blast.
• 1:11:43
  SPEAKER_05: She was she was she was white.
• 1:11:46
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 1:12:09
  SPEAKER_06: I feel like that's an extreme.
• 1:12:12
  SPEAKER_06: That's consent.
• 1:12:13
  SPEAKER_05: Wait, what's consent?
• 1:12:15
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, I think she's consenting that.
• 1:12:16
  SPEAKER_06: No, she can't consent, she's sixteen.
• 1:12:17
  SPEAKER_05: There's no consenting for underage, you fucking southern bell.
• 1:12:22
  SPEAKER_06: Thank you.
• 1:12:26
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, I'm not good.
• 1:12:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, motherfucker.
• 1:12:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, put her underneath the fucking president.
• 1:12:35
  SPEAKER_05: So you think they should get more time?
• 1:12:37
  SPEAKER_05: They should get mad.
• 1:12:41
  SPEAKER_03: I'm just gonna put it to you like this.
• 1:12:43
  SPEAKER_03: When you put the title of rapists in someone or rapist, that's a big thing though.
• 1:12:48
  SPEAKER_03: If if if it's not publicly like clarified, yeah, don't you go in the system or some shit?
• 1:12:55
  SPEAKER_03: Like that that stain is worn on you forever.
• 1:12:59
  SPEAKER_07: Even if even if you go back to society, you're like, okay, this is a known rapist.
• 1:13:03
  SPEAKER_01: You get like you put on that sex offender shit list, right?
• 1:13:06
  SPEAKER_01: Oh man.
• 1:13:08
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta, and then you gotta go to everybody's door, like, yo, I'm a rapist.
• 1:13:11
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think you have to go to door-to-door.
• 1:13:12
  SPEAKER_01: And then you have to go to the nearest precinct, like I'm a rapist.
• 1:13:15
  SPEAKER_01: What is rape?
• 1:13:16
  SPEAKER_01: Rape is unconsensual sex with a woman.
• 1:13:19
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so what the book definition.
• 1:13:22
  SPEAKER_05: So what she described is not rape.
• 1:13:24
  unknown: No.
• 1:13:25
  SPEAKER_05: She didn't describe it.
• 1:13:26
  SPEAKER_05: No, it's the parents that fought.
• 1:13:27
  SPEAKER_05: It was the penis inside of her faithful.
• 1:13:28
  SPEAKER_05: So then why did the law decide that that was rape?
• 1:13:31
  SPEAKER_05: Because they're all in, they all in on bringing the black man down.
• 1:13:34
  SPEAKER_05: So it's a black and white thing.
• 1:13:35
  SPEAKER_05: So it's a black and white thing.
• 1:13:38
  SPEAKER_06: Another situation where this happened, um, it was a college football player, I believe.
• 1:13:42
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that's that's the one I was talking about.
• 1:13:44
  SPEAKER_06: A college football player, I don't know the exact details, but uh uh there was sex in some type of nature.
• 1:13:51
  SPEAKER_06: The woman the woman said even fucking me.
• 1:13:53
  SPEAKER_06: She's a Kobe fan.
• 1:13:55
  SPEAKER_07: There was sexual contact.
• 1:13:59
  SPEAKER_06: The woman in college said that she was raped, and then it came out that she actually wasn't raped, but he did time serves and everything that's fucked up his career.
• 1:14:07
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he didn't, he he lost a scholar.
• 1:14:08
  SPEAKER_05: No, he lost like the chance of going to the to the NFL.
• 1:14:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:14:11
  SPEAKER_05: So what do you think should happen next year?
• 1:14:12
  SPEAKER_05: She should go to jail.
• 1:14:13
  SPEAKER_05: She lied.
• 1:14:14
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, anybody who lies on anybody has to get that.
• 1:14:18
  SPEAKER_05: But how many years did he do?
• 1:14:19
  SPEAKER_05: He didn't do anything.
• 1:14:20
  SPEAKER_05: He just didn't go to the street.
• 1:14:22
  SPEAKER_05: He didn't go to the NFL.
• 1:14:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he lost his dreams.
• 1:14:24
  SPEAKER_01: And you know what?
• 1:14:25
  SPEAKER_01: He lost his dreams.
• 1:14:26
  SPEAKER_03: She should she should fucking she should be held in there for at least three and five years.
• 1:14:29
  SPEAKER_03: She should be held accountable.
• 1:14:32
  SPEAKER_01: And then that's gonna re- and maybe get raped by a woman.
• 1:14:34
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 1:14:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, let him know.
• 1:14:35
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I don't want to say man.
• 1:14:37
  SPEAKER_05: It feels like.
• 1:14:37
  SPEAKER_05: I mean by a woman though.
• 1:14:38
  SPEAKER_05: I don't as a feminist, I don't agree.
• 1:14:40
  SPEAKER_05: With a dill though.
• 1:14:41
  SPEAKER_05: That's nice.
• 1:14:41
  SPEAKER_05: That's not fair.
• 1:14:42
  SPEAKER_05: That's not quality.
• 1:14:43
  SPEAKER_05: He didn't get raped.
• 1:14:45
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, but look, he was decent.
• 1:14:47
  SPEAKER_05: Do you think he should be given money?
• 1:14:48
  SPEAKER_05: No, absolutely.
• 1:14:49
  SPEAKER_05: What if he did get raped?
• 1:14:50
  SPEAKER_05: But look, no, no.
• 1:14:51
  SPEAKER_05: NFL contracts aren't guaranteed, so what money am I giving him?
• 1:14:53
  SPEAKER_05: Scholarships.
• 1:14:54
  SPEAKER_05: No, he's he's done with school, he's done in school.
• 1:14:56
  SPEAKER_01: The word is you don't know what he could have done in that time as an NFL player and achieved.
• 1:15:00
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, but he could have been a fucking.
• 1:15:02
  SPEAKER_05: So how much should we give him then?
• 1:15:03
  SPEAKER_05: What?
• 1:15:03
  SPEAKER_05: Since we're giving everybody handouts, how much should we give him?
• 1:15:05
  SPEAKER_05: Since we give everybody handouts.
• 1:15:09
  SPEAKER_05: There's players on the roster that don't make that money.
• 1:15:11
  SPEAKER_05: I'm not saying I don't know about that.
• 1:15:12
  SPEAKER_01: What is that?
• 1:15:12
  SPEAKER_01: George?
• 1:15:13
  SPEAKER_01: Paffanelia?
• 1:15:15
  SPEAKER_01: Pafanillia.
• 1:15:16
  unknown: Okay.
• 1:15:16
  SPEAKER_01: Good looking, brother.
• 1:15:18
  unknown: Let me know what they mean because I'm off the dog.
• 1:15:20
  SPEAKER_01: This guy, Darius, just came in with some.
• 1:15:23
  SPEAKER_01: After the whole debate.
• 1:15:24
  SPEAKER_00: Allegedly.
• 1:15:25
  SPEAKER_01: Allegedly.
• 1:15:25
  SPEAKER_05: He allegedly came in.
• 1:15:27
  SPEAKER_05: Who's he talking to?
• 1:15:29
  SPEAKER_05: Me?
• 1:15:29
  SPEAKER_05: I'm I'm uh I'm anti-class.
• 1:15:33
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, give it give it to I can sell one.
• 1:15:36
  SPEAKER_05: Alright, look.
• 1:15:38
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, let's just let's just put ace nose.
• 1:15:40
  SPEAKER_03: Let's get away.
• 1:15:41
  SPEAKER_01: Let's go at ace knows.
• 1:15:43
  SPEAKER_01: Look, look.
• 1:15:43
  SPEAKER_01: Would you like a shot of Henny?
• 1:15:45
  SPEAKER_03: I can see a fucking IG story now.
• 1:15:48
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you know what we should do to those women who uh wrongfully accuse men of rape?
• 1:15:53
  SPEAKER_01: We make the we make it so that they cannot, if they ever get married, and if they ever divorce, they don't get shit.
• 1:16:00
  SPEAKER_01: That's not good, uh?
• 1:16:01
  SPEAKER_05: No, no.
• 1:16:02
  SPEAKER_03: That's not good enough?
• 1:16:02
  SPEAKER_03: That's not fair because we're not doing that to the men.
• 1:16:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's true.
• 1:16:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're right.
• 1:16:06
  SPEAKER_01: Fuck.
• 1:16:07
  SPEAKER_01: I try to come up with uh some cool shit.
• 1:16:10
  SPEAKER_03: They try to say that shit, oh, um men fuck who they can, women fuck who they want.
• 1:16:14
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
• 1:16:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, men marry who they want, and women marry who they want.
• 1:16:17
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that was a very quick end of debate right there.
• 1:16:19
  SPEAKER_05: I remember that.
• 1:16:20
  SPEAKER_05: Men marry who they want.
• 1:16:22
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, men marry who they desperately want.
• 1:16:26
  SPEAKER_05: No.
• 1:16:27
  SPEAKER_05: Hell no.
• 1:16:27
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, they do.
• 1:16:28
  SPEAKER_05: Women rarely propose to men.
• 1:16:30
  SPEAKER_05: What the fuck?
• 1:16:31
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, y'all talking.
• 1:16:32
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, no, I get what y'all saying now.
• 1:16:33
  SPEAKER_01: I get what y'all saying.
• 1:16:34
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just saying there's a lot of desperate.
• 1:16:35
  SPEAKER_05: Women don't choose the man, like I'm gonna marry you because they're gonna be.
• 1:16:44
  SPEAKER_01: The whole Tinder conversation last week.
• 1:16:47
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, I'm saying more desperate women than uh, actually, I don't know.
• 1:16:51
  SPEAKER_05: I don't think so.
• 1:16:52
  SPEAKER_00: I don't I don't think so because I think there's more desperate like we talked about last week, social media.
• 1:16:57
  SPEAKER_00: One woman, there's thousands of men that just want to have sex with that one.
• 1:17:00
  SPEAKER_01: Look, I can show you on my Facebook right now, Shorty will put a this isn't meaningful.
• 1:17:05
  SPEAKER_01: There's this chick that put up a post like, damn, I'm bored.
• 1:17:07
  SPEAKER_01: What y'all doing?
• 1:17:08
  SPEAKER_01: What we do is I would fuck you.
• 1:17:09
  SPEAKER_01: And you just see all the dudes just flood to that one fucking.
• 1:17:13
  SPEAKER_03: But see, that's that's the balance, though.
• 1:17:15
  SPEAKER_03: But that's the fucking balance.
• 1:17:17
  SPEAKER_03: Even though, even though there are more women than men, women pretty much have like the say so women a fuck or whatever the case is.
• 1:17:25
  SPEAKER_05: That's because men are weak.
• 1:17:27
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, men are weak and they're so you think they should take it?
• 1:17:29
  SPEAKER_06: We just talked about rape.
• 1:17:30
  SPEAKER_06: What are you talking about?
• 1:17:30
  SPEAKER_06: So we just say men are weak.
• 1:17:32
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, we are.
• 1:17:33
  SPEAKER_06: I'm not saying take it in that sense.
• 1:17:37
  SPEAKER_05: What sense is there?
• 1:17:39
  SPEAKER_07: Stand up for yourself.
• 1:17:40
  SPEAKER_07: What are we gonna have to do?
• 1:17:43
  SPEAKER_07: What nature?
• 1:17:44
  SPEAKER_05: You control the sex.
• 1:17:45
  SPEAKER_05: We're gonna have sex in this.
• 1:17:47
  SPEAKER_05: Who controls the sex?
• 1:17:48
  unknown: Nah, it won't work for men.
• 1:17:49
  SPEAKER_05: I control the sex in my relationship.
• 1:17:53
  SPEAKER_08: Bedroom bully.
• 1:17:55
  SPEAKER_08: I don't know what that means, sir.
• 1:17:56
  SPEAKER_08: I would equate to that.
• 1:17:57
  SPEAKER_05: I'm an original.
• 1:18:00
  SPEAKER_05: But um, yeah, we're gonna get kind of off topic.
• 1:18:02
  SPEAKER_05: Oh no, no, yeah, just put them underneath the just give them a sentence, man.
• 1:18:06
  SPEAKER_05: So we agree that false accusations of rape should jail time, absolutely.
• 1:18:11
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 1:18:12
  SPEAKER_03: You're in court under oath.
• 1:18:13
  SPEAKER_03: You're in court under oath.
• 1:18:14
  SPEAKER_03: Especially once you've sat there and ruined somebody's fucking chances at life or a career in the NFL.
• 1:18:21
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 1:18:21
  SPEAKER_03: That's a life-altering experience.
• 1:18:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like no, she really needs to fucking sit down and do some hard time for that.
• 1:18:26
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 1:18:26
  SPEAKER_05: And what do you think should be done to actual rapists?
• 1:18:30
  SPEAKER_05: They get raped back first.
• 1:18:32
  SPEAKER_03: I honestly think that people who are legitimate rapists like they can't control.
• 1:18:38
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 1:18:38
  SPEAKER_03: Forcibly taking pussy without like a.
• 1:18:40
  SPEAKER_03: Like a snoop dogging that one movie.
• 1:18:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:18:44
  SPEAKER_03: Honestly, I think I think all rapists should be excommunicated.
• 1:18:49
  SPEAKER_03: And um they should just really be like shipped off somewhere, like and rape each other.
• 1:18:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like so.
• 1:18:56
  SPEAKER_03: You know what?
• 1:18:57
  SPEAKER_03: Let those mother let those motherfuckers like try to get away.
• 1:19:01
  SPEAKER_07: But rape is so useful loosely used though.
• 1:19:03
  SPEAKER_07: It's just like, okay, you he gave me two shots at Henny, then we ended up having stuff.
• 1:19:06
  SPEAKER_03: I was in a taking.
• 1:19:08
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I'm talking about when you f- How do you prove it?
• 1:19:11
  SPEAKER_03: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:19:12
  SPEAKER_03: Like prove what?
• 1:19:13
  SPEAKER_06: I was I was in a I was in an altered state of mind, and he took it.
• 1:19:17
  SPEAKER_06: Like definitely a alcoholic.
• 1:19:18
  SPEAKER_03: That's why I don't like dealing with those who drink alcohol.
• 1:19:22
  SPEAKER_00: It's the same as we.
• 1:19:23
  SPEAKER_00: I was too high.
• 1:19:24
  SPEAKER_00: I got too high, so I just wanted to talk dick.
• 1:19:26
  SPEAKER_00: First of all, high pussy is the worst.
• 1:19:28
  SPEAKER_01: I've never lost my sense of on while our pussy is the worst.
• 1:19:36
  SPEAKER_06: But the thing is, look, look, now you can get a DY for driving high.
• 1:19:40
  SPEAKER_06: You should.
• 1:19:41
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you should.
• 1:19:41
  SPEAKER_05: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 1:19:42
  SPEAKER_05: You're driving under the influence.
• 1:19:43
  SPEAKER_05: So driving too slow is dangerous, too, nigga.
• 1:19:46
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, it definitely is.
• 1:19:47
  SPEAKER_05: You're bugging.
• 1:19:49
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I'm not doing 30 on the freeway.
• 1:19:51
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I'm five.
• 1:19:52
  SPEAKER_05: I've seen niggas doing 30.
• 1:19:53
  unknown: Last night?
• 1:19:54
  unknown: Well, that's late.
• 1:19:55
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, wow.
• 1:19:56
  SPEAKER_05: He's being very specific.
• 1:19:57
  SPEAKER_05: You incriminating?
• 1:19:58
  SPEAKER_05: We don't even know he's talking right now.
• 1:20:00
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, license plate number we should run.
• 1:20:03
  SPEAKER_05: Alright, um, so we done we're done with the women.
• 1:20:05
  SPEAKER_05: What else we got on the dock?
• 1:20:07
  SPEAKER_05: That was poor phrasing.
• 1:20:08
  SPEAKER_05: We're done with well, you're a feminist.
• 1:20:10
  SPEAKER_05: I'm a feminist, so I can say I can say whatever I want.
• 1:20:12
  SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
• 1:20:12
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, being a feminist is lit, man.
• 1:20:13
  SPEAKER_05: Y'all should uh transfer over.
• 1:20:15
  SPEAKER_06: So we just get out of jail out a free car.
• 1:20:18
  SPEAKER_06: Get out of everything.
• 1:20:18
  SPEAKER_05: We got like a car or something?
• 1:20:20
  SPEAKER_05: No homo at the end of the shit.
• 1:20:21
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I don't have to say we got an actual uh gay baby scenario, and then we got Eminem.
• 1:20:30
  SPEAKER_05: Which one y'all will talk about first?
• 1:20:31
  SPEAKER_01: Let's talk about the Eminem shit, because this thing is hot right now.
• 1:20:34
  SPEAKER_01: Ace has a lot to say about this.
• 1:20:35
  SPEAKER_01: Feminine.
• 1:20:36
  SPEAKER_08: Nothing to say before besides how I'm fucking ecstatic.
• 1:20:39
  SPEAKER_08: Uh this is Rhett's topic.
• 1:20:40
  SPEAKER_08: Why do you like why do you like Eminem?
• 1:20:42
  SPEAKER_08: He likes white.
• 1:20:43
  SPEAKER_08: Besides who it was, it was lyricism again.
• 1:20:48
  SPEAKER_08: It was play on words, it was a manipulation on events, it was it was bringing more attention to talent versus who you can pay to get to get a record popping.
• 1:20:59
  SPEAKER_05: Eminem is so got soft to me.
• 1:21:01
  SPEAKER_08: Eminem's uh I just don't like the anger.
• 1:21:04
  SPEAKER_08: So just like we said about Kanye, it depends on the time because you can't expect somebody to be the same person every time.
• 1:21:09
  SPEAKER_08: Because I'm not the same.
• 1:21:11
  SPEAKER_08: But you were so he he's a psycho.
• 1:21:14
  SPEAKER_08: He's a fucking psycho from the minute I heard Eminem.
• 1:21:17
  SPEAKER_01: He's on he's not on drugs.
• 1:21:18
  SPEAKER_08: Nah, he he he's uh been he's known to be sober now.
• 1:21:21
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, sober.
• 1:21:22
  SPEAKER_08: That was the transition that you noticed.
• 1:21:24
  SPEAKER_08: That'll make him not a fiend at one point?
• 1:21:25
  SPEAKER_08: No, no, no.
• 1:21:26
  SPEAKER_08: Once a fiend always a fiend, so yeah, once a drug addict goes a drug addict, it's just how you or do you do drugs anymore?
• 1:21:31
  SPEAKER_05: There's other ways to do drugs without doing drugs.
• 1:21:33
  SPEAKER_08: But what I'm saying, why I'm so happy, is because he's now shedding light on Drake and uh like a lot of people out there that are just being a good thing.
• 1:21:40
  SPEAKER_08: You actually care about the gossip.
• 1:21:42
  SPEAKER_08: They're being glorified for bullshit that they're distributing.
• 1:21:45
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, why do you think it's gossip if it's Emma hasn't said anything like anybody else?
• 1:21:49
  SPEAKER_05: My thing is about Drake.
• 1:21:50
  SPEAKER_05: Why are you formulating songs around that's absolutely true?
• 1:21:53
  SPEAKER_08: He didn't say anything different, but the thing is, who's listening to the other people that said anything?
• 1:21:57
  SPEAKER_08: Meek Mill.
• 1:21:58
  SPEAKER_08: Who's Meek Mill?
• 1:21:59
  SPEAKER_08: This is Eminem.
• 1:22:00
  SPEAKER_08: This is Eminem.
• 1:22:01
  SPEAKER_08: This is Eminem.
• 1:22:01
  SPEAKER_08: The goat, nigga.
• 1:22:02
  SPEAKER_06: Whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 1:22:04
  SPEAKER_06: Whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 1:22:04
  SPEAKER_06: The goat.
• 1:22:05
  SPEAKER_06: Nah, he's a living goat.
• 1:22:06
  SPEAKER_06: I feel like I feel like that was just thrown in there for clickbait.
• 1:22:09
  SPEAKER_06: What the fuck would happen?
• 1:22:10
  SPEAKER_06: Tupac is the goat.
• 1:22:12
  SPEAKER_06: I feel like that was just like Tupac had a better, he's not a better rapper than Lil Wing.
• 1:22:16
  SPEAKER_06: I was just throwing, I feel like it was thrown in there for clickbait.
• 1:22:18
  SPEAKER_06: If I say this about Drake, me on people gonna listen because it's gossip.
• 1:22:20
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, let's not gossip.
• 1:22:21
  SPEAKER_05: This is proof, y'all.
• 1:22:23
  SPEAKER_05: Not gossip, not gossip, not not gossip, not gossip.
• 1:22:25
  SPEAKER_06: Like China's a hoe, but Drake don't got ghostwriters.
• 1:22:29
  SPEAKER_03: It's trendy to speak about Drake.
• 1:22:32
  SPEAKER_06: Like, especially he's doing an amazing tour right now.
• 1:22:34
  SPEAKER_06: Like, let me just throw some Drake in there.
• 1:22:36
  SPEAKER_05: This is the point.
• 1:22:37
  SPEAKER_05: Eminem is the GOAT at putting words together.
• 1:22:41
  SPEAKER_05: I give you that.
• 1:22:41
  SPEAKER_05: Lyrically.
• 1:22:42
  SPEAKER_05: That's what I just think.
• 1:22:42
  SPEAKER_05: I'll give you that.
• 1:22:43
  SPEAKER_05: Lyrically.
• 1:22:43
  SPEAKER_05: That's about it.
• 1:22:44
  SPEAKER_05: You're not outrapping him.
• 1:22:45
  SPEAKER_05: That's about it.
• 1:22:47
  SPEAKER_03: That's all that's why he didn't even mention Drake as a rapper.
• 1:22:50
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he never mentioned his name.
• 1:22:51
  SPEAKER_05: He named some niggas.
• 1:22:52
  SPEAKER_05: But I said he got soft because he blurted out the word faggot.
• 1:22:56
  SPEAKER_05: It's a different time.
• 1:22:57
  SPEAKER_05: That's crazy.
• 1:22:57
  SPEAKER_05: It's a different time.
• 1:22:58
  SPEAKER_05: We can't say faggot.
• 1:23:00
  SPEAKER_08: He's not known as a feminism.
• 1:23:01
  SPEAKER_08: He'll go to jail for nothing.
• 1:23:03
  SPEAKER_08: As a feminism.
• 1:23:04
  SPEAKER_06: He won't go to jail.
• 1:23:05
  SPEAKER_06: It's freedom of speech.
• 1:23:06
  SPEAKER_05: He's not known as a feminist.
• 1:23:08
  SPEAKER_05: They're locking niggas up now if you're not a feminist.
• 1:23:10
  SPEAKER_05: They lock you up.
• 1:23:10
  SPEAKER_06: So if I call somebody gay, I'm getting locked up.
• 1:23:12
  SPEAKER_06: That has nothing to do with feminism.
• 1:23:17
  SPEAKER_06: So I can get locked up for calling somebody a faggot.
• 1:23:19
  SPEAKER_06: Not to cut you off.
• 1:23:20
  unknown: Hate crime.
• 1:23:21
  SPEAKER_10: Hate crime.
• 1:23:21
  SPEAKER_05: Now if you say faggot and then punch him, you definitely.
• 1:23:24
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, but if you just punch him and then say faggot afterwards, nah, you're still going to jail.
• 1:23:28
  SPEAKER_05: So you just can't use that word, you know?
• 1:23:30
  SPEAKER_05: And uh eminently.
• 1:23:32
  SPEAKER_06: What if I just think he's a faggot, not like a gay person?
• 1:23:35
  SPEAKER_05: That's my thing.
• 1:23:35
  SPEAKER_05: I use the the word faggot.
• 1:23:37
  SPEAKER_06: It's not it doesn't mean pink.
• 1:23:38
  SPEAKER_05: I like to use it to it's straight men.
• 1:23:42
  SPEAKER_03: How old was that?
• 1:23:43
  SPEAKER_05: I was born in 94.
• 1:23:44
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 1:23:44
  SPEAKER_03: How old are you in 99, 2000?
• 1:23:46
  SPEAKER_06: Shit, that's mad.
• 1:23:50
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so y'all don't know the real fucking Eminem.
• 1:23:54
  SPEAKER_00: First of all, first of all, I know the real fucking Eminem going there.
• 1:23:58
  SPEAKER_02: You did not see it in real time.
• 1:24:00
  SPEAKER_02: In what?
• 1:24:00
  SPEAKER_03: You didn't see it in real time.
• 1:24:02
  SPEAKER_03: It's different.
• 1:24:02
  SPEAKER_03: You were six years old?
• 1:24:04
  SPEAKER_03: It's different.
• 1:24:05
  SPEAKER_08: Seven.
• 1:24:05
  SPEAKER_08: I just like just like yo, I love Tupac, right?
• 1:24:08
  SPEAKER_08: But I can't never I never experienced Tupac the same way.
• 1:24:13
  SPEAKER_08: The difference is I never experienced Tupac the way the generation who was there to live the time.
• 1:24:19
  SPEAKER_05: I grew up on Eminem.
• 1:24:20
  SPEAKER_05: You grew up on an Eminem show.
• 1:24:22
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, well, you know what?
• 1:24:23
  SPEAKER_03: What whatever.
• 1:24:24
  SPEAKER_03: The Slim Shady LP, which was his first fucking LP, wasn't all that?
• 1:24:28
  SPEAKER_03: Like 99.
• 1:24:29
  SPEAKER_01: First of all, Eminem was making a whole bunch of parody rap songs.
• 1:24:33
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:24:34
  SPEAKER_01: And the real Eminem show.
• 1:24:37
  SPEAKER_01: Gatman and Robin.
• 1:24:38
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, can I can I finish?
• 1:24:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's gonna continue.
• 1:24:40
  SPEAKER_01: Defend the white host.
• 1:24:41
  SPEAKER_03: Those first two albums, like the first album where he was talking about number drugs and killing his mom, Mike and the closet and all that shit.
• 1:24:49
  SPEAKER_03: And then the second, the second Chatter Mouth was when he was like he was using the word faggot crazy, and he got so much fucking heat and flack from everybody.
• 1:25:04
  SPEAKER_03: That's why when he performed, I think it was at the VMAs or MTV awards, he had Elton John.
• 1:25:10
  SPEAKER_03: Oh okay, that makes sense.
• 1:25:11
  SPEAKER_03: That was like, listen, emerging.
• 1:25:13
  SPEAKER_03: We gotta bridge this gap.
• 1:25:14
  SPEAKER_03: Like I'm not bro, I'm not I don't hate y'all motherfuckers.
• 1:25:17
  SPEAKER_03: I'm just using this lyrically, whatever the whatever the other thing is.
• 1:25:20
  SPEAKER_05: For the young niggas, we got the song Forever.
• 1:25:22
  SPEAKER_05: The song Forever with that Drake that Drake was on, and they uh Eminem is on the last uh he has the last verse on the song.
• 1:25:29
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, okay.
• 1:25:29
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he you know, people always talk about how he his verse was making like he was dissing everybody on the song with him.
• 1:25:35
  SPEAKER_05: And uh he displayed, you know, his lyrics.
• 1:25:37
  SPEAKER_05: I respect uh Eminem, he's in my top five all time.
• 1:25:40
  SPEAKER_03: Lyrically, there's nobody that's outraphy.
• 1:25:41
  SPEAKER_05: I don't think I don't think anybody can out rap him on a on a technical level.
• 1:25:45
  SPEAKER_08: And Eminem also, if you notice his pattern, he will always kill or bomb somebody who he's with, who he's working with.
• 1:25:53
  SPEAKER_08: Like he how many times has he killed Dre in a song?
• 1:25:58
  SPEAKER_08: Many times.
• 1:25:59
  SPEAKER_08: So that doesn't always mean something negative, it's kind of his style of attacking his environment.
• 1:26:03
  SPEAKER_08: Because his just like his ego is like, I'm the biggest motherfucker.
• 1:26:14
  SPEAKER_03: They try to count him out as whatever, and I'm like he went through his own set of shit.
• 1:26:19
  SPEAKER_03: Like the nigga grew up in Detroit, in a trailer park, in the trailer park, went to mad different schools, got bullied, and beat the fuck up.
• 1:26:25
  SPEAKER_06: Walked in on his mom getting fucked.
• 1:26:27
  SPEAKER_03: He was poor, he was this, he was that.
• 1:26:29
  SPEAKER_06: That's the movie, nigga.
• 1:26:30
  SPEAKER_06: So nah, that's real life.
• 1:26:31
  SPEAKER_03: So why isn't his struggle recognized?
• 1:26:33
  SPEAKER_03: Why isn't his like struggle recognized?
• 1:26:35
  SPEAKER_03: Because we okay.
• 1:26:38
  SPEAKER_05: I want to kill my mother type shit.
• 1:26:40
  SPEAKER_01: White angst is something we don't relate to.
• 1:26:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like that's that's that Columbine shooting type music, bro.
• 1:26:44
  SPEAKER_01: Real talk, and that's what I think as.
• 1:26:46
  SPEAKER_05: But he did influence a lot of the rappers that we claim are the kings right now, like Kendrick, J.
• 1:26:54
  SPEAKER_05: Cole, they all logic, even though I don't listen to his music.
• 1:26:59
  SPEAKER_05: Bro, what is his music about?
• 1:27:03
  SPEAKER_08: Logic, logic is the logic is the careful.
• 1:27:07
  SPEAKER_05: This is forever.
• 1:27:08
  SPEAKER_08: Logic is about the Bob Marley hip uh Bob Marley of hip hop right now.
• 1:27:12
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know if you want to go on record saying that.
• 1:27:16
  SPEAKER_08: Alright, cool.
• 1:27:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, oh yeah.
• 1:27:19
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay, okay.
• 1:27:20
  SPEAKER_00: What would you say?
• 1:27:21
  SPEAKER_00: He's black, so he gets the pass.
• 1:27:25
  SPEAKER_08: I seen a I seen a meme.
• 1:27:27
  SPEAKER_08: Everybody forgets that Bob Marley was half.
• 1:27:28
  SPEAKER_08: I seen a meme, and it was everybody loves him.
• 1:27:32
  SPEAKER_08: What's the matter about he what he pushed?
• 1:27:33
  SPEAKER_08: Logic doesn't really, it's not because he's white or why anything, why I like him.
• 1:27:38
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:27:39
  SPEAKER_08: It's because of his lyrical content.
• 1:27:40
  SPEAKER_08: I seen this.
• 1:27:41
  SPEAKER_08: And I started to listen to his shit.
• 1:27:42
  SPEAKER_08: And I realized he was black.
• 1:27:44
  SPEAKER_08: So I was like, oh shit.
• 1:27:45
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, oh, yeah, he did say that.
• 1:27:46
  SPEAKER_05: Would you be comfortable with Logic calling you the N word?
• 1:27:48
  SPEAKER_08: Like I would I'm I'm not sure.
• 1:27:50
  SPEAKER_08: If he came up to say, Well, what up, my nigga?
• 1:27:51
  SPEAKER_08: If he said what up, my nigga, that's a little different.
• 1:27:53
  SPEAKER_08: I I'm I'm very weird with that word.
• 1:27:56
  SPEAKER_08: I let it offend me for certain people, and I let it not for others.
• 1:28:00
  SPEAKER_08: I don't like when Spanish people use that word.
• 1:28:01
  SPEAKER_08: So my girlfriend.
• 1:28:03
  SPEAKER_08: My girlfriend's in the room.
• 1:28:03
  SPEAKER_08: She she's Dominican.
• 1:28:04
  SPEAKER_08: She's a little darker than me.
• 1:28:07
  SPEAKER_08: Whatever.
• 1:28:08
  SPEAKER_08: So I'm white compared to her, she says.
• 1:28:10
  SPEAKER_08: But um I get offended if she says nigga.
• 1:28:13
  SPEAKER_08: Well, my girlfriend's also Dominican.
• 1:28:15
  SPEAKER_08: He is.
• 1:28:15
  SPEAKER_08: Tell her don't use that word.
• 1:28:16
  SPEAKER_08: She looks at me like she's like, nigga, I get more, I I I feel it more than you do because in society, I'm blacker than you.
• 1:28:23
  SPEAKER_08: So how are you gonna tell me that I can't say it?
• 1:28:25
  SPEAKER_08: But at the same time, still still doesn't change.
• 1:28:29
  SPEAKER_08: Still doesn't change the fact that I allow it to let the little hairs on my back stand like that.
• 1:28:33
  SPEAKER_08: I can't control that.
• 1:28:33
  SPEAKER_08: I can't control that.
• 1:28:34
  SPEAKER_00: I can't control that Dominicans weren't in the field getting whipped.
• 1:28:39
  SPEAKER_00: Getting called niggas?
• 1:28:40
  SPEAKER_00: Never been called Coca-Colos.
• 1:28:43
  SPEAKER_05: The whole Caribbean is the slave trade.
• 1:28:45
  SPEAKER_05: You don't know that.
• 1:28:46
  SPEAKER_05: You don't know that.
• 1:28:48
  SPEAKER_03: Here's my only plight with Spanish people who are using the nigga using the nigga.
• 1:28:52
  SPEAKER_03: If right, there are so many who will fail to identify with and will say swear up and down, I'm not black, I'm Dominican, I'm not black, I'm this, I'm not black, I'm not gonna be like, how about we identify bury that fucking word?
• 1:29:07
  SPEAKER_01: Huh?
• 1:29:07
  SPEAKER_01: How about we just bury that fucking word?
• 1:29:09
  SPEAKER_05: No, that's my word, nigga.
• 1:29:11
  SPEAKER_03: If you if you identify and you and yeah, absolutely.
• 1:29:14
  SPEAKER_06: So Post Malone was just like, I'm a I'm black, so nigga.
• 1:29:17
  SPEAKER_05: I'll slap fire to Post Malone.
• 1:29:19
  SPEAKER_05: I ever see that nigga, bro.
• 1:29:20
  SPEAKER_05: So why would you stop?
• 1:29:23
  SPEAKER_05: What sense of using that term?
• 1:29:24
  SPEAKER_05: I can use that word because I'm a nigga.
• 1:29:26
  SPEAKER_05: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:29:26
  SPEAKER_05: Like I'm a feminist, I can call you a bitch.
• 1:29:28
  SPEAKER_05: But how is he a nigga if he's not black?
• 1:29:30
  SPEAKER_05: I don't want to be a nigga.
• 1:29:31
  SPEAKER_05: You a nigga anyway.
• 1:29:33
  SPEAKER_05: Nah, nigga is a term of endearment.
• 1:29:35
  SPEAKER_05: It's a term of endearment, all right?
• 1:29:37
  SPEAKER_05: It's is uh Thomas from why do we say what up, my nigga?
• 1:29:41
  SPEAKER_03: No, if we go out the racial draft, I'm drafting Tommy.
• 1:29:44
  SPEAKER_03: All right, brother, his name is Thomas, alright.
• 1:29:46
  SPEAKER_03: You know why?
• 1:29:47
  SPEAKER_03: Because only black people say the word motherfucker like that.
• 1:29:50
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 1:29:51
  SPEAKER_03: White people don't use that.
• 1:29:52
  SPEAKER_03: They say motherfucker.
• 1:29:54
  SPEAKER_03: They don't say it like he does.
• 1:29:56
  SPEAKER_03: Motherfucker.
• 1:29:57
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 1:29:57
  SPEAKER_05: What were we talking about?
• 1:30:00
  SPEAKER_05: No, we was uh what was the topic?
• 1:30:02
  SPEAKER_05: Let's talk about Eminem.
• 1:30:05
  SPEAKER_03: That's just my thing.
• 1:30:06
  SPEAKER_03: Like, you know, black people they don't give Eminem the credit that he's not.
• 1:30:09
  SPEAKER_01: Nah, I think they do because we recognize that this guy comes from the gutter.
• 1:30:14
  SPEAKER_01: They don't feel that way.
• 1:30:16
  SPEAKER_01: They don't feel that way.
• 1:30:17
  SPEAKER_03: They don't feel that way.
• 1:30:18
  SPEAKER_03: They feel like the social media blacks.
• 1:30:25
  SPEAKER_03: The nigga bought you 50 cents.
• 1:30:26
  SPEAKER_03: Are you not happy?
• 1:30:28
  SPEAKER_03: Like, ye bought you 50 cent.
• 1:30:30
  SPEAKER_03: The the the biggest, probably one of the most ignorant motherfuckers in the biggest nigga in the industry.
• 1:30:37
  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
• 1:30:37
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:30:38
  SPEAKER_03: Like when it comes when it comes to being niggerish and and and and trolling people and this is a good thing.
• 1:30:42
  SPEAKER_01: When it boils down to some culture votes.
• 1:30:45
  SPEAKER_08: 50 definitely tastes cake.
• 1:30:46
  SPEAKER_01: Whoa, how's that voice of him?
• 1:30:47
  SPEAKER_01: I was just fucking around.
• 1:30:48
  SPEAKER_01: No, but he's a white guy taking another a black guy that's selling, you know, the killing black music shipping it to black people.
• 1:30:55
  SPEAKER_03: I can understand if Eminem grew up in a fucking uppity white area and had some Leo opponents.
• 1:31:00
  SPEAKER_06: So I'll bring it determines if I can say nigga now.
• 1:31:03
  SPEAKER_05: Absolutely, Lutley.
• 1:31:04
  SPEAKER_05: Huh?
• 1:31:05
  SPEAKER_05: So now I was white growing up around black people, I can just say nigga.
• 1:31:09
  SPEAKER_05: It would be a lot like the people in Oakland.
• 1:31:10
  SPEAKER_05: So Eminem can say nigga.
• 1:31:12
  SPEAKER_05: I would not be offended if Eminem said.
• 1:31:15
  SPEAKER_05: So Eminem said nigga, you are.
• 1:31:17
  SPEAKER_05: I would not be, I would not feel a type of way to be.
• 1:31:21
  SPEAKER_03: So I encourage, I encourage one of my closest white friends to say the word nigga alike.
• 1:31:25
  SPEAKER_05: But like what happens when he says it when you're not around?
• 1:31:28
  SPEAKER_07: You're teaching him to punch in the face.
• 1:31:30
  SPEAKER_03: See the thing is he's I I know.
• 1:31:32
  SPEAKER_03: He knows the time and place.
• 1:31:34
  SPEAKER_03: He's not he's not a racist.
• 1:31:36
  SPEAKER_03: That motherfucker don't even like white girls like that.
• 1:31:38
  SPEAKER_03: Nobody should.
• 1:31:43
  SPEAKER_03: He enjoys the black sugar, he enjoys the brown sugar.
• 1:31:45
  SPEAKER_01: He enjoys the brown sugar.
• 1:31:46
  SPEAKER_01: Is that an ancestral thing or something?
• 1:31:50
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, wow.
• 1:31:50
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 1:31:51
  SPEAKER_05: His motherfucker is more black than I am.
• 1:31:53
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:31:53
  SPEAKER_05: I mean you're Native Americans.
• 1:31:55
  SPEAKER_05: You Native.
• 1:31:57
  SPEAKER_05: You're ready, no?
• 1:31:58
  SPEAKER_05: Literally.
• 1:32:00
  SPEAKER_03: That motherfucker black in a meeting but like when he's around, like he says, nigga, I don't feel no type of way.
• 1:32:04
  SPEAKER_03: He came up in the hood.
• 1:32:05
  SPEAKER_03: I've known that motherfucker since high school.
• 1:32:07
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I definitely understand what you're saying.
• 1:32:08
  SPEAKER_08: So I went to school with um, it doesn't matter, we're getting off the topic of MM, but I went to school with predominantly whites.
• 1:32:14
  SPEAKER_08: What schools you go to?
• 1:32:15
  SPEAKER_08: Uh West Milford High.
• 1:32:16
  SPEAKER_08: Well, when you when you go to a white, when you live in the house, my school for High, I got me, I got me.
• 1:32:25
  SPEAKER_03: I don't even think you're saying words right now.
• 1:32:27
  SPEAKER_03: No, I can't say that.
• 1:32:28
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, so um, like I said, with it with that N-word, you uh if it's if I want you to offend me, I'll let it offend me.
• 1:32:35
  SPEAKER_08: But it's a context.
• 1:32:36
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it's definitely context.
• 1:32:37
  SPEAKER_08: I just don't like I just trying to offend me.
• 1:32:40
  SPEAKER_03: I just don't like the group of six Spanish motherfuckers saying the word nigga every three weeks.
• 1:32:45
  SPEAKER_03: So is them.
• 1:32:46
  SPEAKER_03: They offend me the most.
• 1:32:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yo, holy.
• 1:32:47
  SPEAKER_03: And yo, I literally almost got into it with one of them because I called a nigga spic to his face.
• 1:32:52
  SPEAKER_03: And he got upset.
• 1:32:52
  SPEAKER_03: You break.
• 1:32:53
  SPEAKER_03: I don't give a fuck.
• 1:32:54
  SPEAKER_03: The nigga got upset.
• 1:32:55
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, like, yeah, but it's acceptable for you to sit here and say this shit 50,000 fucking times.
• 1:33:00
  SPEAKER_03: There's other people.
• 1:33:01
  SPEAKER_01: So are they allowed to call each other spic?
• 1:33:03
  SPEAKER_05: No, I don't think so.
• 1:33:04
  SPEAKER_01: Spic is legit a word to offend.
• 1:33:07
  SPEAKER_01: So is nigga.
• 1:33:07
  SPEAKER_05: So is nigga.
• 1:33:08
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:33:11
  SPEAKER_01: Spic is not the Spanish nigga.
• 1:33:13
  SPEAKER_01: Nah, nah, no, that's not the span.
• 1:33:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yo, I'm on his side.
• 1:33:15
  SPEAKER_01: You tried the ER?
• 1:33:16
  SPEAKER_01: Say the ER word.
• 1:33:17
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta fix your mouth a certain way to let that shit go out your mouth.
• 1:33:19
  SPEAKER_01: Nigga.
• 1:33:20
  SPEAKER_01: Nigga.
• 1:33:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yo, and the tone in your head.
• 1:33:23
  SPEAKER_01: What's up, my nigga?
• 1:33:23
  SPEAKER_05: I should have spoken.
• 1:33:26
  SPEAKER_05: You gotta say with a southern accent.
• 1:33:30
  SPEAKER_05: What's up, my nigga?
• 1:33:33
  SPEAKER_00: Nigger.
• 1:33:36
  SPEAKER_00: The egg just comes out naturally.
• 1:33:38
  SPEAKER_01: It comes out evil for some reason.
• 1:33:41
  SPEAKER_01: Nigger.
• 1:33:41
  SPEAKER_01: Nigger.
• 1:33:42
  SPEAKER_01: Nigger.
• 1:33:43
  SPEAKER_01: You tell that gets deeper and fucking crispier in the tone of your voice when you said that?
• 1:33:47
  SPEAKER_05: No, words have power, man.
• 1:33:48
  SPEAKER_05: That's all I'm saying.
• 1:33:49
  SPEAKER_05: Nigger.
• 1:33:50
  SPEAKER_05: So Eminem gets a black pass.
• 1:33:52
  SPEAKER_05: He gets the black card.
• 1:33:53
  SPEAKER_05: Post Malone gets beat up on site.
• 1:33:55
  SPEAKER_05: You know.
• 1:33:56
  SPEAKER_05: And Spanish dudes, you have to have at least one black person in your group to say the N-word.
• 1:34:01
  SPEAKER_05: You got to get permission.
• 1:34:03
  SPEAKER_05: Nah, but you can't give if I And that's only in your group.
• 1:34:07
  SPEAKER_05: If I can give a person permission to say the N-word, that's not stopping the other black dude from up the street from punching them in the face.
• 1:34:12
  SPEAKER_05: He's a black dude, he's the other black dude from up the street.
• 1:34:14
  SPEAKER_05: Nah, but his man's he knows not the bigger.
• 1:34:17
  SPEAKER_06: I'm talking about the Spanish guys that were saying it.
• 1:34:18
  SPEAKER_06: What if their black homies said, it's okay.
• 1:34:20
  SPEAKER_05: Nah, but for me, I went to PS92Q, right?
• 1:34:23
  SPEAKER_05: And I was the it was only three black kids in that school.
• 1:34:25
  SPEAKER_06: And I Mind you, it's a named after a black person.
• 1:34:27
  SPEAKER_05: And I literally experienced people darker on you.
• 1:34:32
  SPEAKER_05: They called you like chocolate in the club.
• 1:34:33
  SPEAKER_05: Calling me Coca-Cola.
• 1:34:34
  SPEAKER_05: Like they were darker than me.
• 1:34:35
  SPEAKER_05: And I'm just like, motherfucker, what?
• 1:34:37
  SPEAKER_05: And then these are the same people that now that I see them, it's all yeah, we all black.
• 1:34:41
  SPEAKER_05: And it just doesn't register with me up here.
• 1:34:42
  SPEAKER_05: That's why I have this automatic feeling.
• 1:34:44
  SPEAKER_05: And it's just ironic that I'm with a Dominican woman, so it's like I feel the same thing.
• 1:34:50
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I don't eat rice.
• 1:34:51
  SPEAKER_05: But yeah, no, no.
• 1:34:52
  SPEAKER_05: You eat like peas and peas?
• 1:34:54
  SPEAKER_05: I don't no, I don't eat beans.
• 1:34:56
  SPEAKER_05: That's why I don't like rice.
• 1:34:58
  SPEAKER_05: So I just it's just like uh a visceral response when I hear that word coming out of those specific people.
• 1:35:05
  SPEAKER_03: So like I said, it's all about context and how you're using the word.
• 1:35:09
  SPEAKER_03: Like I said, if I have a motherfucker standing around nigga, hit it a nigga hit it, that's that right there is like, okay, my dude, like enough with that shit.
• 1:35:18
  SPEAKER_03: But my white and Hispanic friend who literally grew up in the hood with black, like who identified like my white friend, of course, he can't identify as black.
• 1:35:32
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:35:32
  SPEAKER_05: He can identify with a struggle.
• 1:35:35
  SPEAKER_05: Because being black is uh is a struggle thing, it's a cultural thing.
• 1:35:38
  SPEAKER_03: But you get what I'm saying.
• 1:35:39
  SPEAKER_03: But there's certain things he would never explain.
• 1:35:41
  SPEAKER_01: I just kind of feel like that word should be played.
• 1:35:43
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you don't believe that hip-hop is a black culture.
• 1:35:47
  SPEAKER_01: I thought I just said I feel like that word should just be buried.
• 1:35:49
  SPEAKER_01: What?
• 1:35:50
  SPEAKER_01: Nigga?
• 1:35:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, nigga.
• 1:35:52
  SPEAKER_03: Nigga, please.
• 1:35:52
  SPEAKER_05: So you guys want to talk about the gay baby thing?
• 1:35:54
  SPEAKER_01: Uh why you call him a gay baby and he's dead.
• 1:35:58
  SPEAKER_05: No, that was our topic.
• 1:36:00
  SPEAKER_05: And now there's a gay baby.
• 1:36:02
  unknown: What?
• 1:36:03
  SPEAKER_05: Alright, let's get into it.
• 1:36:04
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
• 1:36:04
  SPEAKER_05: He was like five.
• 1:36:05
  SPEAKER_05: He was nine.
• 1:36:06
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 1:36:07
  SPEAKER_05: Alright.
• 1:36:07
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:36:08
  SPEAKER_05: So a nine-year-old.
• 1:36:09
  SPEAKER_05: That's accurate, though.
• 1:36:09
  SPEAKER_05: He is a baby and he's gay.
• 1:36:11
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, so niggas is wild, man.
• 1:36:14
  SPEAKER_05: They're trying to paint me as the devil.
• 1:36:15
  SPEAKER_05: But um, a nine-year-old boy committed suicide after coming out to his classmates.
• 1:36:20
  SPEAKER_05: Um, and this sparked a lot of debate online.
• 1:36:22
  SPEAKER_05: You know the City Girls?
• 1:36:23
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 1:36:23
  SPEAKER_05: Your favorite group?
• 1:36:24
  SPEAKER_06: My favorite group?
• 1:36:25
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I'm sad, bitch.
• 1:36:29
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, so that was the question.
• 1:36:30
  SPEAKER_06: There was a question mark behind it.
• 1:36:32
  SPEAKER_05: You about to turn this into real with a y'all.
• 1:36:34
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so um people are saying that number one, can a nine-year-old identify as anything?
• 1:36:39
  SPEAKER_05: So at nine years old, did you identify as straight?
• 1:36:42
  SPEAKER_05: I knew they'd not like pussy.
• 1:36:43
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 1:36:44
  SPEAKER_01: No, but your very your brain is very mandible.
• 1:36:50
  SPEAKER_01: I'm about to say some next shit.
• 1:36:51
  SPEAKER_01: I don't even know.
• 1:36:52
  SPEAKER_01: Uh your brain, your brain is like super sensitive at that point.
• 1:36:57
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:36:57
  SPEAKER_01: What like it's like you could be either or, I think.
• 1:37:00
  SPEAKER_01: But me personally, I was fucking with the shortties.
• 1:37:03
  SPEAKER_00: But at the same time, like nine-year-old kids were just focused on playing with other guys and stuff like that.
• 1:37:08
  SPEAKER_00: So, like sexuality, like he could like that's the thing with like when you put in media and stuff like that on TV, like I forgot that question.
• 1:37:15
  SPEAKER_05: But were you playing boot not because you're gonna but were you playing booty tag because it was fun or because it was women?
• 1:37:19
  SPEAKER_05: Because it was women.
• 1:37:21
  SPEAKER_05: Nah, yeah.
• 1:37:22
  SPEAKER_05: Nah, because it was women.
• 1:37:24
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, because it was women.
• 1:37:25
  SPEAKER_01: Because it was women.
• 1:37:27
  SPEAKER_01: Like, like, I don't know.
• 1:37:29
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe because the I do have another outlet to scrap that game at them.
• 1:37:33
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:37:33
  SPEAKER_07: I mean he wasn't booty tagging with niggas.
• 1:37:36
  unknown: I'm sorry.
• 1:37:38
  SPEAKER_03: When I when I was what two like I don't however old I was, the first time that you saw a pants, like on the screen or that weren't moms.
• 1:37:49
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, right, right.
• 1:37:50
  SPEAKER_01: I kind of was afraid the first time I grabbed titties.
• 1:37:53
  SPEAKER_01: Pussy.
• 1:37:54
  SPEAKER_03: Um, once I saw that, once I saw the female anatomy, the neck bite, I knew from that jump.
• 1:38:01
  SPEAKER_03: No, this is a weird.
• 1:38:03
  SPEAKER_03: This is a weird ass story.
• 1:38:04
  SPEAKER_01: I was in I was in I was in my I was in third grade, right?
• 1:38:07
  SPEAKER_01: It was like eight years ago.
• 1:38:08
  SPEAKER_01: Nah, nah, this is a weird ass story.
• 1:38:09
  SPEAKER_01: So this uh this is a shorty always starts.
• 1:38:11
  SPEAKER_01: There's a shortie that lives in my building, a floor underneath me.
• 1:38:14
  SPEAKER_01: She was coming to visit my sister because there was friends, right?
• 1:38:17
  SPEAKER_01: She was probably like 14 years old.
• 1:38:18
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like like nine or something, or eight.
• 1:38:21
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, so she comes through.
• 1:38:22
  SPEAKER_01: So she's in my sister's room, and I always used to like flirt with her or whatever, whenever she's just seen titties one day.
• 1:38:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yo, she was just laying in my sister's bed, and I pulled up right behind her.
• 1:38:31
  SPEAKER_01: Where the fuck am I learning this shit as a kid?
• 1:38:33
  SPEAKER_01: First of all.
• 1:38:34
  SPEAKER_01: I pulled up right behind her.
• 1:38:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yo, I don't know where the fuck I learned this shit from.
• 1:38:39
  SPEAKER_01: But I pulled up right behind her.
• 1:38:41
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 1:38:41
  SPEAKER_01: You know what she does?
• 1:38:42
  SPEAKER_01: She sits up, kind of like fixes me, so I'm sitting up, grabs my hands and makes me grab her titties.
• 1:38:48
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you're a rape.
• 1:38:50
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 1:38:50
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm pulling away because she's being mad for me.
• 1:38:52
  SPEAKER_01: No, you were raped.
• 1:38:53
  SPEAKER_01: I'm pulling away and she's just wilding out and makes a lot of sense why you have commitment issues.
• 1:38:57
  SPEAKER_05: You're a rape.
• 1:38:58
  SPEAKER_03: I was raped by one of my sister's friends.
• 1:39:00
  SPEAKER_05: Uh no, but it's it's so funny how I was kind of inviting that kind of energy, but then when it happened, I folded.
• 1:39:06
  SPEAKER_05: So you believe a nine-year-old could be gay.
• 1:39:08
  SPEAKER_05: That's that's the point I'm trying to do.
• 1:39:10
  SPEAKER_05: But I'm saying, like, what I was going to back.
• 1:39:18
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, man.
• 1:39:19
  SPEAKER_05: Commitment issues.
• 1:39:20
  SPEAKER_05: Like I said, go back and like go have commitment issues as well.
• 1:39:22
  SPEAKER_05: I only got I got commission.
• 1:39:24
  SPEAKER_05: I think you got a contract over there.
• 1:39:26
  SPEAKER_01: Nah, I got commitment issues because uh then did a lot of nasty things with other guys' girls.
• 1:39:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, and that's what fucks me up.
• 1:39:33
  SPEAKER_05: You kissed them too, didn't you?
• 1:39:35
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe a couple of them.
• 1:39:36
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you sucking straight, bro.
• 1:39:39
  SPEAKER_01: When I was untrained.
• 1:39:40
  SPEAKER_01: When my mom was untrained, yeah.
• 1:39:41
  SPEAKER_05: I probably think when you were young and dumb.
• 1:39:43
  SPEAKER_05: That's the dangerous part, man.
• 1:39:45
  SPEAKER_05: About fucking with other people's girls, man.
• 1:39:46
  SPEAKER_05: That's why I don't do it.
• 1:39:47
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but um Literally, you literally sucking dick, man.
• 1:39:49
  SPEAKER_05: I don't think I don't think you could be gay at nine years fucking old.
• 1:39:52
  SPEAKER_05: You could be straight.
• 1:39:53
  SPEAKER_05: You could just be I just don't think you don't.
• 1:39:55
  SPEAKER_05: Something.
• 1:39:55
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
• 1:39:56
  SPEAKER_06: But like I was trying to tell you before, media is very suggestive.
• 1:39:59
  SPEAKER_06: So like if I like all this lesbian gear, whatever the thing is, L G B Q.
• 1:40:04
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, GQ.
• 1:40:06
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 1:40:07
  SPEAKER_06: Look, in order for you to be.
• 1:40:09
  SPEAKER_06: What's the I?
• 1:40:10
  SPEAKER_06: What's the IA?
• 1:40:11
  SPEAKER_05: Intersex and an asexual.
• 1:40:15
  SPEAKER_05: That's another letter every day.
• 1:40:17
  SPEAKER_05: Asexual is the absence of sex.
• 1:40:18
  SPEAKER_05: So why is it on their spectrum?
• 1:40:20
  unknown: Because they want to be included.
• 1:40:21
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody wants to be included.
• 1:40:23
  SPEAKER_05: Asexual is self-sex.
• 1:40:24
  SPEAKER_05: Once they add the P, it's lit for y'all.
• 1:40:27
  SPEAKER_03: Pedophile.
• 1:40:27
  SPEAKER_05: They're gonna add the P and it's over.
• 1:40:30
  SPEAKER_05: Y'all think I'm joking.
• 1:40:31
  SPEAKER_05: All right.
• 1:40:31
  SPEAKER_05: It's not wrong.
• 1:40:32
  SPEAKER_05: They're gonna add the P and it's over.
• 1:40:33
  SPEAKER_06: Like I was like I was saying, there's a lot of suggestive stuff in media.
• 1:40:36
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:40:37
  SPEAKER_05: The mental insanity of reality.
• 1:40:39
  SPEAKER_06: It's over.
• 1:40:41
  SPEAKER_06: So the kid couldn't have even really been gay.
• 1:40:43
  SPEAKER_06: He just knows like he can be straight.
• 1:40:44
  SPEAKER_05: No, because I'm saying he cannot even be.
• 1:40:46
  SPEAKER_06: I'm saying like he cannot even be gay.
• 1:40:48
  SPEAKER_06: I enjoy hanging out with my male friends.
• 1:40:50
  SPEAKER_06: I haven't experienced female contact like that.
• 1:40:57
  SPEAKER_06: I haven't experienced female content like that, so I don't know.
• 1:41:00
  SPEAKER_06: Let me ask you a question.
• 1:41:01
  SPEAKER_06: At nine?
• 1:41:02
  SPEAKER_05: So and he's what I've I've had a they take they can take a little bit longer.
• 1:41:06
  SPEAKER_05: Wow, okay.
• 1:41:07
  SPEAKER_05: I had a this is a dead person we're talking about, by the way.
• 1:41:09
  SPEAKER_05: Um I had a good point.
• 1:41:11
  SPEAKER_05: I've heard a listen piece.
• 1:41:12
  SPEAKER_05: I've heard anecdotal evidence.
• 1:41:14
  SPEAKER_03: Listen from don't don't don't fucking turn into pussies, bro.
• 1:41:16
  SPEAKER_03: Wait, what happened?
• 1:41:18
  SPEAKER_03: Wait, hold on.
• 1:41:18
  SPEAKER_03: He's about to hang himself.
• 1:41:20
  SPEAKER_01: He's about to hang himself.
• 1:41:21
  SPEAKER_01: What's wrong?
• 1:41:21
  SPEAKER_03: I'm just saying like I hate when people do that shit.
• 1:41:24
  SPEAKER_03: What?
• 1:41:24
  SPEAKER_01: He's a dead kid.
• 1:41:25
  SPEAKER_01: Listen.
• 1:41:25
  SPEAKER_01: Baby.
• 1:41:26
  SPEAKER_01: He's a gay kid.
• 1:41:28
  SPEAKER_01: Why you gotta label him?
• 1:41:30
  SPEAKER_01: He's a dead kid.
• 1:41:31
  SPEAKER_01: He's a dead call a kid.
• 1:41:33
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 1:41:40
  SPEAKER_01: We just lost every sponsorship we were in the world.
• 1:41:43
  SPEAKER_01: I can't uh say rest in peace.
• 1:41:44
  SPEAKER_01: No respect to a nine-year-old that killed himself.
• 1:41:46
  SPEAKER_01: I'm making about that.
• 1:41:47
  SPEAKER_03: I'm saying, like, yeah, that's cool, bro.
• 1:41:48
  SPEAKER_08: It's not you just call us both pussies for saying rest in peace to the young brother who's dead now.
• 1:41:53
  SPEAKER_08: Word.
• 1:41:53
  SPEAKER_08: Just because he had to voice his opinion and couldn't fit in the city.
• 1:41:56
  SPEAKER_08: Guess what?
• 1:41:57
  SPEAKER_03: Young.
• 1:41:58
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not lying.
• 1:41:59
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not done up packing this topic.
• 1:42:01
  SPEAKER_05: I'm just what I'm just trying to what I'm saying.
• 1:42:03
  SPEAKER_05: So the city girl.
• 1:42:05
  SPEAKER_05: One of them, no, it's not.
• 1:42:06
  SPEAKER_05: One of the members of the cities girls.
• 1:42:07
  SPEAKER_05: I forgot City Girl's a gay baby, the same thing.
• 1:42:09
  SPEAKER_05: This is the same thing.
• 1:42:10
  SPEAKER_05: Watch.
• 1:42:10
  SPEAKER_05: She made a tweet and they're digging up all of their old tweets because that's what they're doing to celebrities right now.
• 1:42:14
  SPEAKER_05: That Doja Cat Bish are doing the same shit.
• 1:42:15
  SPEAKER_05: They build you up to tear you down.
• 1:42:17
  SPEAKER_05: So her tweet was saying that if my son was gay, I'll beat the gay out of him.
• 1:42:23
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:42:24
  SPEAKER_05: That's a little harsh.
• 1:42:25
  SPEAKER_05: How do you feel about that?
• 1:42:26
  SPEAKER_05: If your nine-year-old son.
• 1:42:28
  SPEAKER_05: Yo, if you go out of Facebook right now, you're gonna see all these posts being shared.
• 1:42:31
  SPEAKER_01: It's just funny shit like that.
• 1:42:32
  SPEAKER_01: Just those those things are meant to be funny.
• 1:42:34
  SPEAKER_01: I guess they're just playing around and being funny.
• 1:42:36
  SPEAKER_05: Nah, she was dead serious.
• 1:42:37
  SPEAKER_08: So what?
• 1:42:37
  SPEAKER_03: That's how she feels like it's a good idea.
• 1:42:38
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and that's my internet.
• 1:42:39
  SPEAKER_08: So what's the question?
• 1:42:40
  SPEAKER_05: I want to know, is that crossing a line?
• 1:42:43
  SPEAKER_03: Everybody doesn't accept that shit.
• 1:42:44
  SPEAKER_05: Beating the gay out of your baby.
• 1:42:46
  SPEAKER_08: Um, I don't think that's possible at all.
• 1:42:50
  SPEAKER_05: Nah, there's no genes that determines you gay.
• 1:42:52
  SPEAKER_05: Sure about that.
• 1:42:53
  SPEAKER_05: You can lay on the sword about that?
• 1:42:55
  SPEAKER_08: Do you even understand hydrogen bonds?
• 1:42:57
  SPEAKER_01: How hydrogen bonds?
• 1:42:58
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, there we go.
• 1:42:59
  SPEAKER_08: No, no, no, I'm just saying, like, there's things that you just don't understand.
• 1:43:03
  SPEAKER_08: So everybody chemically is different.
• 1:43:05
  SPEAKER_01: So there's a gay, there's a gene or a chemical reaction that have you done any research?
• 1:43:11
  SPEAKER_01: I think I haven't, but it just wouldn't make sense to me because you are a ghost right now.
• 1:43:17
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, put on put on the mic.
• 1:43:20
  SPEAKER_01: We have a special guest.
• 1:43:21
  SPEAKER_05: Now we have two, we we have two feminists in the building.
• 1:43:24
  SPEAKER_09: Well, everybody should be a feminist, but I'm high.
• 1:43:27
  SPEAKER_09: This is Carrie.
• 1:43:27
  SPEAKER_09: Um Ace's girlfriend.
• 1:43:29
  SPEAKER_05: I thought you said I'm high.
• 1:43:33
  SPEAKER_09: No, not today.
• 1:43:34
  SPEAKER_09: Um, but basically, like they are researching different things that can lead to people, you know, identifying as gay or straight.
• 1:43:41
  SPEAKER_09: Just like so there can be multiple genes, obviously the environment.
• 1:43:44
  SPEAKER_09: So there's things called epigenetics, right?
• 1:43:46
  SPEAKER_09: So your environment can affect gene expression.
• 1:43:48
  SPEAKER_09: So there's different things that can influence, I guess, your sexual identity.
• 1:43:53
  SPEAKER_09: But you can't really say one gene causes.
• 1:43:56
  SPEAKER_09: The same thing with like if you have a twin and one twin can be gay, the other twin can't um isn't.
• 1:44:01
  SPEAKER_09: And sometimes um what they find is like there's more androgen um exposure in the womb, you know, so that can affect, you know if a person identifies like basically androgens are what um determine male sexual organs.
• 1:44:16
  SPEAKER_10: So it's different.
• 1:44:17
  SPEAKER_09: They are they I'm saying there are research, they are researching it now, but there can be things genetically that do influence.
• 1:44:24
  SPEAKER_01: They spiking that research for a whole bunch of shit.
• 1:44:27
  SPEAKER_03: The the idea of they were born that way is basically.
• 1:44:31
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, hold on.
• 1:44:31
  SPEAKER_05: Now I'm gonna throw a big rope.
• 1:44:33
  SPEAKER_05: Fuck Lady Gaga.
• 1:44:34
  SPEAKER_05: Now I'll just play.
• 1:44:35
  SPEAKER_05: Uh so how do you explain the women that have been into men their whole life and then they got cheated on three times in a row, and now they're a lesbian?
• 1:44:45
  SPEAKER_05: That's different.
• 1:44:46
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, no, no, it's the same thing.
• 1:44:48
  SPEAKER_09: So that's women both cheat.
• 1:44:50
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 1:44:50
  SPEAKER_09: Shut the fuck up.
• 1:44:51
  SPEAKER_05: That's a little What did that have to do with anything?
• 1:44:54
  SPEAKER_09: I to be honest, that's hard to That's using a trauma.
• 1:44:57
  SPEAKER_09: Think about exactly because one that's their personal that's their personal yeah, like.
• 1:45:01
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, so then you have the gay group that all have the same thing in common that they were molested and that made them gay.
• 1:45:08
  SPEAKER_05: So were they born gay?
• 1:45:10
  SPEAKER_05: Were they turned gay, or did they they were destined to be gay to begin with?
• 1:45:13
  SPEAKER_09: There's too many factors to determine that, that's what I feel like.
• 1:45:16
  SPEAKER_09: You can't really know at that point because everything's a good thing.
• 1:45:21
  SPEAKER_05: So, what is the bottom line of what makes somebody gay?
• 1:45:23
  SPEAKER_09: It's hard.
• 1:45:24
  SPEAKER_09: You uh what I'm saying is when you and another man do something together that causes you to bust a nut.
• 1:45:29
  SPEAKER_09: It's hard to pinpoint it.
• 1:45:30
  SPEAKER_09: It's hard to tell simulation, it is a mixture of uh genetics and the embarrassment.
• 1:45:35
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, so it's nature and nurture.
• 1:45:37
  SPEAKER_09: Exactly.
• 1:45:37
  SPEAKER_09: I think it's both.
• 1:45:38
  SPEAKER_09: I think it's both.
• 1:45:38
  SPEAKER_05: I think it's a chemical imbalance, personally.
• 1:45:41
  SPEAKER_08: Yes.
• 1:45:41
  SPEAKER_05: Personally.
• 1:45:42
  SPEAKER_08: This is the most estrogen we've had in a podcast.
• 1:45:44
  SPEAKER_08: I think that's a that's a large week, nigga.
• 1:45:48
  SPEAKER_08: She's making up for chubbs.
• 1:45:50
  SPEAKER_08: She's on the mic this week, so he's you know bringing extra estrogen to it.
• 1:45:53
  SPEAKER_08: KOcho's making up for chubbs right now.
• 1:45:55
  SPEAKER_08: No, but I I definitely think it's um a large percentage of uh your environment, environment being what you see and what you ingest.
• 1:46:03
  SPEAKER_08: Have you seen Disney's Channel?
• 1:46:05
  SPEAKER_08: Excuse me.
• 1:46:05
  SPEAKER_05: Have you seen Disney's Channel recently?
• 1:46:07
  SPEAKER_05: No.
• 1:46:07
  SPEAKER_05: No, I haven't.
• 1:46:08
  SPEAKER_08: I never I never really watched Disney.
• 1:46:10
  SPEAKER_08: I was always a rate it all movie type of kid.
• 1:46:12
  SPEAKER_08: Facts.
• 1:46:13
  SPEAKER_08: Okay, that's facts.
• 1:46:14
  SPEAKER_07: So you were nurtured to be straight?
• 1:46:15
  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
• 1:46:16
  SPEAKER_08: So would you would you be a gay man without that?
• 1:46:19
  SPEAKER_08: Would you be a gay man?
• 1:46:20
  SPEAKER_08: You'd be a gay man without that.
• 1:46:21
  SPEAKER_08: Nah, because I grew up in a house of women, so I had plenty of choice to be a fucking Batiman.
• 1:46:26
  SPEAKER_07: Okay, but uh, you had beer though.
• 1:46:30
  SPEAKER_07: But you gravitate.
• 1:46:31
  SPEAKER_08: He was smacking ass every second.
• 1:46:33
  SPEAKER_08: I didn't see what he saw.
• 1:46:34
  SPEAKER_08: I didn't see him.
• 1:46:35
  SPEAKER_08: You heard.
• 1:46:35
  SPEAKER_08: I know no, no, no, no, I just knew he wasn't there because he was smacking ass.
• 1:46:38
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly, but you didn't know.
• 1:46:39
  SPEAKER_08: No, no, no, it's just because he didn't know as a kid.
• 1:46:42
  SPEAKER_08: No, no, no, no, no.
• 1:46:43
  SPEAKER_08: I didn't know Vare was not around because he was smacking ass.
• 1:46:45
  SPEAKER_08: I just knew he wasn't around and then later realized that those faces that I saw was the reason why he wasn't around.
• 1:46:50
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 1:46:51
  SPEAKER_08: So, um, back to what I was saying, I don't remember.
• 1:46:56
  SPEAKER_08: AG, take us away.
• 1:46:57
  SPEAKER_05: So the the whole point is, are we allowed to tell somebody how to raise their child?
• 1:47:01
  SPEAKER_05: If I have a nine-year-old son and I want to beat the gay out of him, why can't I do that?
• 1:47:07
  SPEAKER_05: Child abuse is a thing.
• 1:47:08
  SPEAKER_05: No, but child rearing is also a thing.
• 1:47:10
  SPEAKER_05: Discipline is a thing.
• 1:47:11
  SPEAKER_08: That's a difficult topic.
• 1:47:12
  SPEAKER_08: Uh that's a difficult uh question for me to answer for the simple fact I don't have a child.
• 1:47:17
  SPEAKER_08: But do you plan on having kids?
• 1:47:18
  SPEAKER_05: But I feel like if you saw your son walk out of your wife's room with her heels on and one of her no, maybe not.
• 1:47:25
  SPEAKER_05: Playing dressing on her makeup and heels.
• 1:47:27
  SPEAKER_05: What are you doing as a father?
• 1:47:29
  SPEAKER_05: How old is he?
• 1:47:30
  SPEAKER_05: He's nine years old.
• 1:47:31
  SPEAKER_08: Chill.
• 1:47:31
  SPEAKER_08: Nine years old playing with.
• 1:47:34
  SPEAKER_08: No, no, no.
• 1:47:34
  SPEAKER_08: I would I would back back into the room real real quick to see what else he does after that.
• 1:47:40
  SPEAKER_08: So you would let him trot around.
• 1:47:41
  SPEAKER_08: Hold on.
• 1:47:42
  SPEAKER_08: I would let him do him to see who he chooses to be.
• 1:47:46
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, and then he sachets at the end.
• 1:47:49
  SPEAKER_08: Then I'm gonna go back into the room, do a little collective thought, and assess the situation.
• 1:47:55
  SPEAKER_08: See what I should or should not do, because in the end, that's not you're not gonna be.
• 1:48:01
  SPEAKER_08: Hold on.
• 1:48:01
  SPEAKER_08: I gotta realize, I gotta step back as that for that straight father that I envision myself as Mr.
• 1:48:06
  SPEAKER_08: Macho.
• 1:48:07
  SPEAKER_08: Why is he playing with heels?
• 1:48:08
  SPEAKER_08: Do I not have did I not give him sufficient amount of shit to gravitate to to be aware of and other things to play with?
• 1:48:16
  SPEAKER_08: Then some heels.
• 1:48:19
  SPEAKER_08: Now play with your name.
• 1:48:20
  SPEAKER_08: What if that's just what he wants to do?
• 1:48:22
  SPEAKER_08: Exactly, exactly why I would have to go back in the room and assess my shit.
• 1:48:26
  SPEAKER_08: Maybe it'd be a good one.
• 1:48:27
  SPEAKER_08: I don't know what the I don't know if I would mention it to him until he's older.
• 1:48:31
  SPEAKER_08: I don't know if I would say something right away.
• 1:48:33
  SPEAKER_08: I don't know.
• 1:48:34
  SPEAKER_08: I don't want I don't know if I'd ask him a question.
• 1:48:36
  SPEAKER_08: Knock on wood, bro.
• 1:48:37
  SPEAKER_08: But from what I know now, they know what in this room.
• 1:48:39
  SPEAKER_08: But from what I know now, I don't want to.
• 1:48:41
  SPEAKER_08: Alright, if you would ask me this question six years ago, I'm gonna honestly tell you, I'd knock his fucking head off.
• 1:48:45
  SPEAKER_08: No, I'm that's my answer right now.
• 1:48:48
  SPEAKER_08: That's it's a little different now.
• 1:48:51
  SPEAKER_08: So Red Red and Red thing.
• 1:48:52
  SPEAKER_08: No, no, no, hold on.
• 1:48:53
  SPEAKER_08: Red and I come from the generation of older people telling us, yo, y'all don't know shit.
• 1:48:57
  SPEAKER_08: Y'all don't know shit.
• 1:48:58
  SPEAKER_08: Y'all kids nowadays, you you don't you don't come from nothing.
• 1:49:01
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, but let me let me explain.
• 1:49:02
  SPEAKER_08: Let me explain.
• 1:49:03
  SPEAKER_08: Let me explain.
• 1:49:04
  SPEAKER_08: But we're the generation, they're like, all right, we don't know shit.
• 1:49:07
  SPEAKER_08: What should be we be?
• 1:49:08
  SPEAKER_03: What have you taught us?
• 1:49:09
  SPEAKER_03: Like, okay, if we don't know shit, right, besides us.
• 1:49:13
  SPEAKER_08: But besides this yard, what else have you shown us that we're supposed to be looking up to?
• 1:49:18
  unknown: Right.
• 1:49:18
  SPEAKER_08: So that's why now in in this the now that I said six years ago I'd have knocked his head off.
• 1:49:24
  SPEAKER_08: Now I look at that a little differently.
• 1:49:26
  SPEAKER_08: Is it my fault that my son is now playing with high heels?
• 1:49:30
  SPEAKER_08: Is it his mother he looks up to the more so he's trying to be like his mother?
• 1:49:33
  SPEAKER_08: Is it that he's into heels and he wants to be a fashion designer?
• 1:49:37
  SPEAKER_08: Is it he's gay?
• 1:49:39
  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
• 1:49:40
  SPEAKER_08: We don't know because how does he know anything about sex if he's never seen it?
• 1:49:44
  SPEAKER_08: How does that mean you're allowed to do it?
• 1:49:46
  SPEAKER_08: How does he even know if he's gay?
• 1:49:48
  SPEAKER_08: Because science only believes in you knowing what you've seen and heard.
• 1:49:52
  SPEAKER_08: I don't believe that.
• 1:49:53
  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
• 1:49:54
  SPEAKER_08: I believe in seeing knowing and seeing things that you've never seen before.
• 1:49:57
  SPEAKER_05: So you believe that DNA has a memory card?
• 1:50:00
  SPEAKER_05: Have you heard that concept?
• 1:50:01
  SPEAKER_08: I've heard that concept, and they say that that's true but in women because when they look for uh genetic no no for genetics in women only.
• 1:50:10
  SPEAKER_08: Because in men you can't genetically track the history as you can in women.
• 1:50:15
  SPEAKER_05: Explain.
• 1:50:16
  SPEAKER_08: Explain.
• 1:50:17
  SPEAKER_08: So in your genetic makeup, your hist like when they when they find fossils, if they find a male fossil versus a female fossil, they can't age or trace as much genetics or history as they can in a female.
• 1:50:29
  SPEAKER_08: A female co ha uh carries the genetic coding.
• 1:50:32
  SPEAKER_05: Oh.
• 1:50:33
  SPEAKER_05: We're just like the sauce.
• 1:50:34
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, you're just you're just you're just fabric.
• 1:50:36
  SPEAKER_08: You're just fabric, a canvas.
• 1:50:38
  SPEAKER_08: So why do men matter so much then?
• 1:50:40
  SPEAKER_08: Because we make ourselves matter because we're more self-conscious.
• 1:50:42
  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
• 1:50:43
  SPEAKER_08: That's why I'm glad we're feminist.
• 1:50:44
  SPEAKER_08: I don't got these things.
• 1:50:45
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, we're we're the reason that a lot of women do the shit that we say, yo, you don't need to do that.
• 1:50:48
  SPEAKER_08: You don't need to wear makeup.
• 1:50:50
  SPEAKER_05: Do I have a vagina?
• 1:50:51
  SPEAKER_08: Like we say you don't need to wear makeup in this society, but at the same time, we're not fucking with you if you're ugly, we say.
• 1:50:57
  SPEAKER_08: Men do a lot of things for women.
• 1:50:58
  SPEAKER_05: I think we do everything.
• 1:50:59
  SPEAKER_05: I mean we do everything for things.
• 1:51:00
  SPEAKER_05: That's only good.
• 1:51:01
  SPEAKER_08: Yo, I tell my girl that shit all the time.
• 1:51:03
  SPEAKER_08: Yo, I forget my keys, I forget my phone, because I'm thinking about your ass.
• 1:51:06
  SPEAKER_08: I'm trying to make sure you got your shit right.
• 1:51:09
  SPEAKER_08: Even though she has all her shit together, I'm suit I'm sidetracked about her.
• 1:51:13
  SPEAKER_08: Because I'm thinking about it.
• 1:51:14
  SPEAKER_08: So it's their fault.
• 1:51:15
  SPEAKER_08: Setracking.
• 1:51:16
  SPEAKER_08: It is.
• 1:51:16
  SPEAKER_03: Actively remind him though.
• 1:51:19
  SPEAKER_08: She actively reminds me about my shit, but still, men are a little weaker than women in this sense.
• 1:51:24
  SPEAKER_08: I think shit, I'm weaker than my girlfriend in this sense.
• 1:51:27
  SPEAKER_08: Let me speak for myself.
• 1:51:28
  SPEAKER_08: Like physically?
• 1:51:29
  SPEAKER_08: Like she could take you in the back?
• 1:51:30
  SPEAKER_08: Mentally.
• 1:51:31
  SPEAKER_08: Mentally.
• 1:51:32
  SPEAKER_08: Because I think I need her more than she needs me emotionally.
• 1:51:36
  SPEAKER_05: This is going to be a sharp.
• 1:51:37
  SPEAKER_08: No, no, no.
• 1:51:38
  SPEAKER_08: Yo, no, no, no.
• 1:51:40
  SPEAKER_03: If I didn't have her, bring out the violin and the um shit.
• 1:51:43
  SPEAKER_03: Say whatever you want.
• 1:51:45
  SPEAKER_08: Say whatever you want.
• 1:51:46
  SPEAKER_08: But I wouldn't be able to sit here and compose myself and just chill like this on a regular basis if I didn't have somebody as an outlet.
• 1:51:52
  SPEAKER_08: That's sweet.
• 1:51:53
  SPEAKER_08: Alright?
• 1:51:53
  SPEAKER_08: So fuck fuck you.
• 1:51:55
  SPEAKER_08: No.
• 1:51:55
  SPEAKER_08: So if I didn't have her, I'm a little bit dressed and she needs you to get dressed.
• 1:52:01
  SPEAKER_08: Nah, I need her to.
• 1:52:03
  SPEAKER_08: When she's taking two hours in the bathroom, you need to hurry that.
• 1:52:05
  SPEAKER_08: This is a single man's movie.
• 1:52:06
  SPEAKER_08: I'm ready in five minutes.
• 1:52:08
  SPEAKER_08: So I take the last five minutes of her three hours so that it doesn't bother me.
• 1:52:12
  SPEAKER_08: But that's not the case.
• 1:52:13
  SPEAKER_08: So like I was saying, if I didn't have her, I'd be very violent.
• 1:52:17
  SPEAKER_08: Not because of sex.
• 1:52:18
  SPEAKER_05: Light skin.
• 1:52:19
  SPEAKER_08: No, no, no, no, no, no.
• 1:52:20
  SPEAKER_05: You gotta prove yourself understand.
• 1:52:21
  SPEAKER_05: Fuck you.
• 1:52:23
  SPEAKER_05: I didn't say red skin.
• 1:52:24
  SPEAKER_05: I'm light skinned, motherfucker.
• 1:52:25
  SPEAKER_05: That's racism.
• 1:52:26
  SPEAKER_05: I got shit.
• 1:52:27
  SPEAKER_05: I try to take care of.
• 1:52:28
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, you're not a Native American, so you can't say that.
• 1:52:31
  SPEAKER_08: But I'm a feminist.
• 1:52:32
  SPEAKER_05: I can say anything.
• 1:52:33
  SPEAKER_08: I can say anything.
• 1:52:34
  SPEAKER_08: So you're trying to say only light-skinned people got a road rage.
• 1:52:37
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 1:52:37
  SPEAKER_05: Light-skinned blacks.
• 1:52:39
  SPEAKER_08: Not true.
• 1:52:40
  SPEAKER_08: Not fucking true.
• 1:52:42
  SPEAKER_08: I don't know.
• 1:52:42
  SPEAKER_08: What about my red skin?
• 1:52:43
  SPEAKER_08: Is that cool?
• 1:52:45
  SPEAKER_05: Alright, let's uh let's bring the topic.
• 1:52:47
  SPEAKER_05: Let's bring the topic right back around.
• 1:52:49
  SPEAKER_08: Um, I don't know how I would.
• 1:52:51
  SPEAKER_08: I would have to I'd have to assess the situation.
• 1:52:53
  SPEAKER_08: I wouldn't say I would knock his head off.
• 1:52:54
  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
• 1:52:55
  SPEAKER_08: I'd have to figure out where this is coming from.
• 1:52:57
  SPEAKER_08: Red, what are you doing?
• 1:52:58
  SPEAKER_08: He knows about what gay is.
• 1:52:59
  SPEAKER_05: Red, what do you do?
• 1:53:00
  SPEAKER_05: Your son walks out the room, heels, lips, lip gloss, and the chassis at the end.
• 1:53:04
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, you changed the whole fucking dynamic just now.
• 1:53:08
  SPEAKER_08: It's whole different.
• 1:53:09
  SPEAKER_08: You said playing with heels.
• 1:53:11
  SPEAKER_08: You said playing with heels.
• 1:53:12
  SPEAKER_08: You said anything.
• 1:53:17
  SPEAKER_08: You added like this.
• 1:53:18
  SPEAKER_08: I'm sorry.
• 1:53:19
  SPEAKER_08: He just added lip gloss, but I didn't hear the lip gloss.
• 1:53:22
  SPEAKER_08: You said you sached lip gloss.
• 1:53:24
  SPEAKER_03: He said he was playing with heels and sacheting back and forth.
• 1:53:27
  SPEAKER_08: Nah, nah, no, no.
• 1:53:28
  SPEAKER_08: Okay, so I maybe missed all of that.
• 1:53:30
  SPEAKER_08: So my right now in response, I wouldn't think about that.
• 1:53:33
  SPEAKER_08: I would ask him, yo, what the fuck are you doing?
• 1:53:34
  SPEAKER_08: This is what I like to do.
• 1:53:36
  SPEAKER_08: Please explain.
• 1:53:37
  SPEAKER_08: I'm not sure.
• 1:53:37
  SPEAKER_05: That was a nice recap.
• 1:53:38
  SPEAKER_05: And this is what I like to do, Dad.
• 1:53:40
  SPEAKER_07: Why do you like to do it?
• 1:53:41
  SPEAKER_05: Because this is fun.
• 1:53:43
  SPEAKER_05: What is it exactly that you're doing right now?
• 1:53:45
  SPEAKER_05: Like niggas?
• 1:53:46
  SPEAKER_05: I like walking around at heels and doing this move.
• 1:53:49
  SPEAKER_05: I think it's called shit.
• 1:53:50
  SPEAKER_03: I honestly don't even want to fucking know.
• 1:53:52
  SPEAKER_03: I would just go.
• 1:53:53
  SPEAKER_03: I would s I would sweat and I'll speak to everybody.
• 1:53:55
  SPEAKER_03: And that's and that's and that's just being real, my nigga.
• 1:53:57
  SPEAKER_03: Like, if I if I ever had a gay son, God forbid, I really don't know how to fucking react to it.
• 1:54:02
  SPEAKER_09: Why is it so bad?
• 1:54:03
  SPEAKER_09: Why is it the end of the world if you have I'm gonna say this, a black gay son.
• 1:54:08
  SPEAKER_09: Like I understand this is an issue with the black community too, like in terms of homosexuality.
• 1:54:12
  SPEAKER_09: It's harder for a lot of black gay men to come out in like compared to white men.
• 1:54:18
  SPEAKER_09: So in in the sense, people feel like in the white community it's a little easier to come out.
• 1:54:22
  SPEAKER_05: For me personally, I'm a big fan of my dynasty.
• 1:54:26
  SPEAKER_05: I'm a narcissist and my kids have to pass on my dynasty.
• 1:54:29
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, so it's more about my son is gay, he can't pass on shit besides shit, literally.
• 1:54:34
  SPEAKER_05: So Harpies That's my personal anecdote about why I don't want a gay son.
• 1:54:40
  SPEAKER_05: If I had a gay daughter, cool, she don't belong to me anyways.
• 1:54:42
  SPEAKER_02: What about uses a surrogate though?
• 1:54:43
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's not.
• 1:54:44
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, no, no.
• 1:54:44
  SPEAKER_05: It's not no right way.
• 1:54:47
  SPEAKER_05: It's not my way.
• 1:54:48
  SPEAKER_05: On the mouse.
• 1:54:48
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so you're more about the lady.
• 1:54:50
  SPEAKER_05: Traditional.
• 1:54:51
  SPEAKER_05: I'm I'm I'm traditional.
• 1:54:52
  SPEAKER_05: We're traditional sperm in my house.
• 1:54:54
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:54:55
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's it.
• 1:54:56
  SPEAKER_03: We're traditional, I prefer key and lock combination.
• 1:54:59
  SPEAKER_05: For him to leave the house at 18, we have to fist fight.
• 1:55:01
  SPEAKER_05: And when when he wins that fight, then he can leave the house.
• 1:55:03
  SPEAKER_05: And that's how it works.
• 1:55:04
  SPEAKER_05: Nah, I'm I'm I'm gassing that part.
• 1:55:06
  SPEAKER_05: But honestly, that's how I feel about the whole gay thing.
• 1:55:07
  SPEAKER_05: I don't want a gay son because he can't pass on my dice.
• 1:55:11
  SPEAKER_09: It's not you having a problem with him being gay.
• 1:55:13
  SPEAKER_05: No, I don't I don't like the lifestyle personally.
• 1:55:14
  SPEAKER_05: I don't think it's a it's a positive lifestyle.
• 1:55:16
  SPEAKER_05: Like if my son was a heroin addict, I would feel the same way.
• 1:55:18
  SPEAKER_05: I'd be like, oh, why are you a hero addict?
• 1:55:19
  SPEAKER_05: I just treat it the same way, honestly.
• 1:55:23
  SPEAKER_05: To me.
• 1:55:24
  SPEAKER_05: To me.
• 1:55:25
  SPEAKER_05: I don't I don't think gay people are any worse than any me or you.
• 1:55:28
  SPEAKER_05: I just don't like that type of lifestyle.
• 1:55:29
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 1:55:30
  SPEAKER_03: No, I feel like unfortunately, the age that we live in, this bullshit is being fucking pushed onto us.
• 1:55:37
  SPEAKER_03: And it's like, yo, not for nothing.
• 1:55:39
  SPEAKER_03: I had this conversation with my man yesterday.
• 1:55:41
  SPEAKER_03: And I said, this is the reason why I don't want to have kids.
• 1:55:43
  SPEAKER_03: All of this fucking gender this, gender.
• 1:55:47
  SPEAKER_03: Like, my nigga, it's only gonna get fucking worse.
• 1:55:49
  SPEAKER_03: There's only two.
• 1:55:50
  SPEAKER_03: It is, it is.
• 1:55:51
  SPEAKER_03: It's only gonna get worse.
• 1:55:52
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna call you what the fuck you were born as.
• 1:55:54
  SPEAKER_03: You gotta dick it.
• 1:55:55
  SPEAKER_03: I don't care what you want to be called.
• 1:55:57
  SPEAKER_03: You are this, you are that.
• 1:55:59
  SPEAKER_03: Simple as that.
• 1:56:00
  SPEAKER_03: Bruce Jenner is a man.
• 1:56:02
  SPEAKER_03: That's a man.
• 1:56:02
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not referring to him as her.
• 1:56:05
  SPEAKER_03: Regardless of it.
• 1:56:06
  SPEAKER_05: Only if you're trolling it.
• 1:56:08
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 1:56:08
  SPEAKER_05: That's it.
• 1:56:08
  SPEAKER_05: But at the end of the day, that's a man.
• 1:56:10
  SPEAKER_03: His mom, she was born a man.
• 1:56:12
  SPEAKER_05: She's a man.
• 1:56:12
  SPEAKER_05: What is mama name?
• 1:56:14
  SPEAKER_01: Don't you like sp what don't you like about the gay shit specific?
• 1:56:17
  SPEAKER_03: I don't like, I don't like.
• 1:56:19
  SPEAKER_03: Listen.
• 1:56:20
  SPEAKER_03: The language, the lingo, the oh, like that shit?
• 1:56:24
  SPEAKER_03: Wait, what?
• 1:56:25
  SPEAKER_03: My nigga, that shit is so fucking annoying.
• 1:56:29
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's that's that's another thing.
• 1:56:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like, let me like the voice, the voice altering.
• 1:56:33
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like that's a thing.
• 1:56:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's my that's my biggest problem.
• 1:56:38
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, not the flamboyant.
• 1:56:39
  SPEAKER_03: This difference between being homosexual and being.
• 1:56:44
  SPEAKER_05: Why do women accept a uh a dude who actually wants to replace you?
• 1:56:50
  SPEAKER_05: You understand that?
• 1:56:51
  SPEAKER_05: Like the gay man wants you, man.
• 1:56:53
  SPEAKER_05: He wants your lifestyle.
• 1:56:54
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 1:56:54
  SPEAKER_05: Like he wants to replace you in society.
• 1:56:56
  SPEAKER_05: Why gay niggas don't like female?
• 1:56:58
  SPEAKER_03: Why do you champion them?
• 1:57:00
  SPEAKER_03: They freak they we're not, we're actually not competing.
• 1:57:02
  SPEAKER_03: They're spiky.
• 1:57:03
  SPEAKER_03: You don't think so?
• 1:57:05
  SPEAKER_09: If I'm straight, I'm getting a straight man, right?
• 1:57:08
  SPEAKER_09: Okay, gay.
• 1:57:10
  SPEAKER_05: No, they're getting men.
• 1:57:11
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 1:57:13
  SPEAKER_05: They they target straight men all the time.
• 1:57:16
  SPEAKER_05: They want you a man.
• 1:57:16
  SPEAKER_05: I'm chilling.
• 1:57:17
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, they do.
• 1:57:18
  SPEAKER_05: I promise you.
• 1:57:18
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's true, but straight men ain't getting turned out.
• 1:57:21
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, right, Ryan.
• 1:57:22
  SPEAKER_01: You don't think that's a problem?
• 1:57:24
  SPEAKER_01: No, wait, wait, wait.
• 1:57:25
  unknown: As a woman, I don't know.
• 1:57:26
  SPEAKER_01: That's not a problem, nigga.
• 1:57:27
  SPEAKER_01: What?
• 1:57:27
  SPEAKER_01: As a woman, I don't know who's a big thing.
• 1:57:28
  SPEAKER_01: A straight men getting turned out?
• 1:57:30
  SPEAKER_05: Being turned out gay?
• 1:57:31
  SPEAKER_05: No.
• 1:57:33
  SPEAKER_05: Describe to me a gay man to you.
• 1:57:35
  SPEAKER_05: What is he doing?
• 1:57:36
  SPEAKER_05: What is he acting as?
• 1:57:38
  SPEAKER_09: Well, there's I think there's there's no, there's different types of gay men.
• 1:57:41
  SPEAKER_09: Okay, what is this?
• 1:57:42
  SPEAKER_09: Okay, so you're gay, right?
• 1:57:43
  SPEAKER_09: You're a gay man, you're attracted to men.
• 1:57:44
  SPEAKER_09: There's different types, right?
• 1:57:46
  SPEAKER_09: You can have you can have you can have men who sort of wear makeup, do all that stuff.
• 1:57:51
  SPEAKER_09: And they don't they don't offend you?
• 1:57:53
  SPEAKER_09: No, they don't offend you.
• 1:57:54
  SPEAKER_05: Why would they be like, but they're trying to be you.
• 1:57:55
  SPEAKER_05: If I see Post Malone, I'm offended because he's trying to be me.
• 1:58:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, word.
• 1:58:01
  SPEAKER_03: That's female word, though.
• 1:58:02
  unknown: That's not feminine.
• 1:58:03
  SPEAKER_03: No, it's not.
• 1:58:04
  SPEAKER_01: That's what it's traditionally meant to be.
• 1:58:06
  SPEAKER_01: That's what it's chose to be.
• 1:58:07
  SPEAKER_01: But wearing it.
• 1:58:07
  SPEAKER_01: But that's word.
• 1:58:08
  SPEAKER_03: That's that's where it came from, though.
• 1:58:10
  SPEAKER_03: It was like women's clothes were designed for women.
• 1:58:14
  SPEAKER_05: This is why I don't know.
• 1:58:14
  SPEAKER_05: But change is a change is not always a positive thing.
• 1:58:17
  unknown: We don't own makeup.
• 1:58:18
  SPEAKER_00: You can't kill.
• 1:58:19
  SPEAKER_05: Stop.
• 1:58:19
  SPEAKER_05: That's a different culture.
• 1:58:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's a traditional thing.
• 1:58:21
  SPEAKER_00: That's a cultural thing.
• 1:58:24
  SPEAKER_00: That's a cultural thing.
• 1:58:25
  SPEAKER_07: When you go to the women's section on a boutique or whatever, there's gonna be dresses.
• 1:58:29
  SPEAKER_07: There's not gonna be dresses in the men's section.
• 1:58:32
  SPEAKER_07: I'm just trying to protect women.
• 1:58:33
  SPEAKER_03: That's that's a kilt is a cultural thing.
• 1:58:37
  SPEAKER_03: They don't wear that every day.
• 1:58:39
  SPEAKER_03: They don't wear it, they don't wear it because they say, oh, I want to be a bitch today, and I'm gonna go put on a kilt and I'm gonna go the fuck out in the street.
• 1:58:44
  SPEAKER_03: No, like it's different.
• 1:58:46
  SPEAKER_03: So the kilts is basically now things are changing where women don't have ownership of everything that's traditional.
• 1:58:51
  SPEAKER_05: So there's just not why would you want to lose ownership?
• 1:58:53
  SPEAKER_09: So there's I I'm confident.
• 1:58:56
  SPEAKER_09: Like, listen, you're if you're that's more of an insecure thing.
• 1:58:58
  SPEAKER_09: If you're thinking of, oh, this man is gonna steal my man.
• 1:59:01
  unknown: Like, no.
• 1:59:01
  SPEAKER_05: But it's not only stealing your man, it's replacing you in society.
• 1:59:05
  SPEAKER_07: So when you go on a website to shop, there should just be no sections.
• 1:59:08
  SPEAKER_07: There should just be one section of clothes.
• 1:59:10
  SPEAKER_08: I guess she's saying she doesn't feel like only ones that are allowed to shop.
• 1:59:13
  SPEAKER_08: AG, it's like you.
• 1:59:14
  SPEAKER_08: She's she's confident in herself.
• 1:59:16
  SPEAKER_08: She doesn't think that a gay man can take her place.
• 1:59:19
  SPEAKER_01: But if but if he's active until he gets turned out, and also it would never get to the it would never get to that point because everybody at the end of the day, everybody at everyone.
• 1:59:31
  SPEAKER_01: It might happen by accident on purpose one day.
• 1:59:33
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody at the end of the day is gonna have a preference.
• 1:59:37
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, a transgendered male.
• 1:59:39
  SPEAKER_05: That is a male that looks like a woman.
• 1:59:41
  SPEAKER_05: It's a fucking man.
• 1:59:42
  SPEAKER_05: Literally a man that has uh morphed his body into a woman.
• 1:59:47
  SPEAKER_05: You know, that's not offensive to a woman.
• 1:59:49
  SPEAKER_01: No, it's not at all.
• 1:59:51
  SPEAKER_00: Why would it be like that's like a white person getting his skin literally?
• 1:59:57
  SPEAKER_01: Pigmented black.
• 1:59:58
  SPEAKER_05: Wait, stop.
• 1:59:59
  SPEAKER_05: Thank you.
• 2:00:00
  SPEAKER_05: Wait, why would that be offensive in your eyes?
• 2:00:02
  SPEAKER_05: Because of the the point that Zab brought up.
• 2:00:04
  SPEAKER_05: Like that's a white person going to get pigment surgery.
• 2:00:07
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, okay.
• 2:00:08
  SPEAKER_08: My offense is because from across the street, when I see a rat and I'm looking at it in the street, I don't want to.
• 2:00:13
  SPEAKER_05: Who are they trying to attract?
• 2:00:16
  SPEAKER_05: You! Men! And I trying to attract another gay person?
• 2:00:20
  SPEAKER_08: Okay, though.
• 2:00:21
  SPEAKER_08: I'm staying my offense.
• 2:00:22
  SPEAKER_08: Stay in my offense.
• 2:00:23
  SPEAKER_08: Like this is where I'm offended.
• 2:00:25
  SPEAKER_08: So, yeah, exactly.
• 2:00:26
  SPEAKER_08: That's a lie.
• 2:00:26
  SPEAKER_08: That's a trick.
• 2:00:27
  SPEAKER_08: You shouldn't be tricking people into liking something that they're supposed to be.
• 2:00:31
  SPEAKER_01: What if they what what if they always do the same thing as rape?
• 2:00:35
  SPEAKER_01: What if they always wore the shirt that said I'm transgender?
• 2:00:39
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, no, no, no, no, no.
• 2:00:40
  SPEAKER_09: You're not being forcibly penetrated.
• 2:00:42
  SPEAKER_05: Why are you being locked you're being locked?
• 2:00:44
  SPEAKER_05: I was very insensitive.
• 2:00:46
  SPEAKER_05: Listen, I do believe that transgender women should disclose them.
• 2:00:50
  SPEAKER_05: Transgender men, they're women.
• 2:00:51
  SPEAKER_05: Everybody who's transgender.
• 2:00:52
  SPEAKER_05: How are they?
• 2:00:53
  SPEAKER_05: No, they're not you?
• 2:00:54
  SPEAKER_05: They're women.
• 2:00:54
  SPEAKER_05: Can they put it in a life?
• 2:00:56
  SPEAKER_05: How are they a woman?
• 2:00:58
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, no.
• 2:00:58
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, no.
• 2:00:59
  SPEAKER_05: That's not how you're not.
• 2:01:01
  SPEAKER_05: You can't paint my skin white and I'm not going to be able to do it.
• 2:01:02
  SPEAKER_05: What makes you a woman?
• 2:01:05
  SPEAKER_06: Estrogen.
• 2:01:06
  SPEAKER_06: What?
• 2:01:06
  SPEAKER_06: Eggs.
• 2:01:07
  SPEAKER_06: Bleeding.
• 2:01:08
  SPEAKER_05: I want her to define it.
• 2:01:09
  SPEAKER_05: I want her to define it.
• 2:01:10
  unknown: One, I identify as a woman.
• 2:01:13
  unknown: Right?
• 2:01:14
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 2:01:15
  SPEAKER_00: I identify as a fucking penguin.
• 2:01:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'm a penguin now.
• 2:01:18
  SPEAKER_05: Hold on.
• 2:01:18
  SPEAKER_05: Let's unpack this.
• 2:01:19
  SPEAKER_05: I'm a penguin.
• 2:01:20
  SPEAKER_05: I'm a penguin.
• 2:01:21
  SPEAKER_05: You identify as a woman.
• 2:01:22
  SPEAKER_05: I identify as a woman and all the female sex oriented.
• 2:01:25
  SPEAKER_05: Can we just stop right now?
• 2:01:27
  SPEAKER_09: I'm a cisgender.
• 2:01:27
  SPEAKER_09: What is a woman?
• 2:01:29
  SPEAKER_09: Cisgender means I am a woman that identifies as a woman who's also attracted to men.
• 2:01:34
  SPEAKER_05: What else can you identify as?
• 2:01:37
  SPEAKER_05: Rightfully so.
• 2:01:38
  SPEAKER_03: What can you identify as a woman?
• 2:01:39
  SPEAKER_05: I'm a penguin.
• 2:01:42
  SPEAKER_05: You as a human being, what can you identify as besides a woman?
• 2:01:45
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, um, Afro-Latina.
• 2:01:46
  SPEAKER_05: So I'm like and hispanic woman is a Latina.
• 2:01:50
  SPEAKER_05: Latina.
• 2:01:50
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, continue.
• 2:01:51
  SPEAKER_05: So woman again.
• 2:01:53
  SPEAKER_06: I want penguin rights.
• 2:01:54
  SPEAKER_05: Go ahead.
• 2:01:56
  unknown: Um I don't know.
• 2:01:57
  SPEAKER_05: All of the things will be womanly, right?
• 2:02:00
  SPEAKER_05: Because you were that way.
• 2:02:02
  SPEAKER_05: You have the organs to be a woman.
• 2:02:03
  SPEAKER_05: You were born naturally.
• 2:02:05
  SPEAKER_05: So a man who has altered himself.
• 2:02:08
  SPEAKER_05: Women do have a lot of people.
• 2:02:11
  SPEAKER_05: He's an idiot.
• 2:02:12
  SPEAKER_05: A man that has altered himself to attract your mate, how is that not disrespectful to you who identifies as a woman?
• 2:02:20
  SPEAKER_05: I don't understand that.
• 2:02:21
  SPEAKER_09: Because I don't see it as competition.
• 2:02:22
  SPEAKER_05: No, it doesn't have to be competition.
• 2:02:24
  SPEAKER_05: But it is.
• 2:02:25
  SPEAKER_09: No, people let it affect them.
• 2:02:27
  SPEAKER_09: Like, why the fuck do I give a shit if this guy is fucking a man?
• 2:02:30
  SPEAKER_09: He's not fucking.
• 2:02:33
  SPEAKER_09: If I catch him fucking my man like that, you know what I'm saying?
• 2:02:35
  SPEAKER_09: If people let it let it affect you, like that's their lifestyle.
• 2:02:38
  SPEAKER_09: Why are you so into the competition?
• 2:02:40
  SPEAKER_05: Because he's setting he's setting a trap to attract the people that it's not supposed to be attracting.
• 2:02:49
  SPEAKER_05: I wish it was I really wish he's black.
• 2:02:51
  SPEAKER_05: The reason why it's not that is because they have to let me and you know, hey, I don't when I walk into a room, I don't let anybody know that I'm straight.
• 2:02:56
  SPEAKER_05: I don't have to.
• 2:02:57
  SPEAKER_05: Why do I have to know what your sexual preference is when you walk into a room?
• 2:03:00
  SPEAKER_05: I'm a penguin.
• 2:03:02
  SPEAKER_09: I'm saying when you're in that complicated situation, like you said, you don't want to be tricked into seeming that you're attracted to a woman and it's a man.
• 2:03:09
  SPEAKER_06: Penguin lives matter.
• 2:03:11
  SPEAKER_06: You need to disclose it when you're trying to attract a partner.
• 2:03:14
  SPEAKER_05: But why you why do you have the aesthetics of a woman trying to attract other gay men?
• 2:03:19
  SPEAKER_05: I don't understand that.
• 2:03:20
  SPEAKER_05: Wait, what a tr a man who becomes a woman.
• 2:03:25
  SPEAKER_07: He doesn't have to announce that he's a man because it's obvious.
• 2:03:29
  SPEAKER_08: If you're a transgender woman, she just answered that.
• 2:03:31
  SPEAKER_08: She she said it's a good one.
• 2:03:32
  SPEAKER_08: What would that make you not always?
• 2:03:35
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so what would that make you?
• 2:03:37
  SPEAKER_05: A lesbian to that category.
• 2:03:38
  SPEAKER_05: But you are a man to begin with.
• 2:03:40
  unknown: You're a lesbian.
• 2:03:41
  SPEAKER_05: But you're a man.
• 2:03:42
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 2:03:43
  SPEAKER_09: It's exactly so right now, it's not it's not so cut and dry, is all I'm saying.
• 2:03:47
  SPEAKER_09: It's not so cut and dry.
• 2:03:48
  SPEAKER_09: Which it should be.
• 2:03:49
  SPEAKER_09: Because they don't make it that way.
• 2:03:51
  SPEAKER_09: Right now it's a lot about how you identify.
• 2:03:54
  SPEAKER_05: But that's why it's not all about your male sex organs, but identify as I can identify as the same thing as you?
• 2:04:01
  unknown: Yes.
• 2:04:01
  SPEAKER_05: And why is that okay?
• 2:04:02
  unknown: Yes.
• 2:04:03
  SPEAKER_05: How does that make any sense?
• 2:04:04
  unknown: Because what makes you a woman is your body.
• 2:04:06
  SPEAKER_05: Nobody can hear what you're saying.
• 2:04:09
  SPEAKER_01: No, that doesn't make sense.
• 2:04:10
  SPEAKER_01: What?
• 2:04:10
  SPEAKER_01: Because what do you feel like?
• 2:04:13
  SPEAKER_01: No, because what makes you a big thing?
• 2:04:14
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, but you what makes me a man or what makes you a woman is our biology.
• 2:04:19
  SPEAKER_08: Alright, so the thing that she the thing that I think is being overheard, what she said, I'm not defending, I'm just defending her.
• 2:04:24
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, coming to the defense.
• 2:04:26
  SPEAKER_08: Defending her.
• 2:04:28
  SPEAKER_08: No, what she just said is how the people feel about themselves.
• 2:04:31
  SPEAKER_08: I'm not agreeing.
• 2:04:32
  SPEAKER_08: I'm just saying that that's a good thing.
• 2:04:33
  SPEAKER_01: But wait, you don't think that is irrational?
• 2:04:36
  SPEAKER_01: Extremely irrational.
• 2:04:37
  SPEAKER_01: It definitely is very irrational because you cannot feel like a woman and be in a because what how how does a woman feel?
• 2:04:43
  SPEAKER_01: That's like that bitch.
• 2:04:43
  SPEAKER_01: What was it?
• 2:04:44
  SPEAKER_03: Rachel or whatever.
• 2:04:46
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, Rachel what?
• 2:04:47
  SPEAKER_03: Rachel Dolezar.
• 2:04:48
  SPEAKER_03: She feels like a black.
• 2:04:49
  SPEAKER_03: That's offended as a trans talk right there.
• 2:04:52
  SPEAKER_05: I was offended by that.
• 2:04:54
  SPEAKER_05: You're not fucking black.
• 2:04:55
  SPEAKER_05: A white person trying to be a black person.
• 2:04:57
  SPEAKER_05: It's the same thing.
• 2:04:58
  SPEAKER_08: Why are you not offended as a woman?
• 2:04:59
  SPEAKER_08: See again, like Red has mentioned before, it's it's all about the verbiage.
• 2:05:03
  SPEAKER_08: Nowadays it's a completely different conversation.
• 2:05:05
  SPEAKER_08: No, it's not.
• 2:05:06
  SPEAKER_08: Yes, yes, because they've created the conversation.
• 2:05:09
  SPEAKER_08: Although we don't want to respect it and accredit it, it's still the norm now.
• 2:05:13
  SPEAKER_08: That's how things are viewed.
• 2:05:15
  SPEAKER_08: Because we do have this.
• 2:05:16
  SPEAKER_08: We control the norm, right?
• 2:05:18
  SPEAKER_08: Yes, we do.
• 2:05:18
  SPEAKER_08: Because just like just like we said about the social media and the influence of how uh children are being brought up or how we are being brought up now, it does have a major impact on topics just like this as well.
• 2:05:30
  SPEAKER_08: Because just like the Amish, they don't believe in gay, they don't believe in anything, they don't they also believe that if you see a sin, it's as bad as committing a sin.
• 2:05:39
  SPEAKER_08: So you are now a sinner.
• 2:05:40
  SPEAKER_08: So if you think about life in that sense, you're kind of right in their sense.
• 2:05:46
  SPEAKER_08: So it's all of the pa based on how you view yourself.
• 2:05:50
  SPEAKER_05: But the Amish people do not go out and push their lifestyle on anybody.
• 2:05:55
  SPEAKER_05: Absolutely do not.
• 2:05:56
  SPEAKER_05: Gay people are asking me to accept their negative lifestyle.
• 2:06:00
  SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
• 2:06:00
  SPEAKER_05: Transgendered person is.
• 2:06:03
  SPEAKER_08: Because it's negative to him.
• 2:06:04
  SPEAKER_08: Just like I can give you something.
• 2:06:06
  SPEAKER_08: I don't want to yell over things.
• 2:06:07
  SPEAKER_08: I just want to get to this exact point.
• 2:06:08
  SPEAKER_08: You said, how is it negative?
• 2:06:10
  SPEAKER_08: Just like they want to feel good.
• 2:06:12
  SPEAKER_08: How about something that you want to feel good about makes me feel uncomfortable like a motherfucker?
• 2:06:16
  SPEAKER_08: Hold on, hold on.
• 2:06:17
  SPEAKER_08: That's the negative.
• 2:06:18
  SPEAKER_08: That's the majority.
• 2:06:20
  SPEAKER_08: So how about if, okay, so how about if we said that's on you that you feel like a woman, but you're a man.
• 2:06:26
  SPEAKER_09: That makes no sense, though.
• 2:06:28
  SPEAKER_08: It's the exact same thing.
• 2:06:29
  SPEAKER_08: That makes a lot of sense.
• 2:06:30
  SPEAKER_08: No, no, no.
• 2:06:31
  SPEAKER_08: It's literally yin and yang.
• 2:06:34
  SPEAKER_03: Because they they identify that because they want to identify penguin.
• 2:06:38
  SPEAKER_03: But guess what?
• 2:06:40
  SPEAKER_03: I understand that, but let me ask you this.
• 2:06:42
  SPEAKER_03: If I want to identify as an NBA player, motherfucker, it don't work like that.
• 2:06:46
  SPEAKER_05: It's the same thing.
• 2:06:47
  SPEAKER_03: That's my response to them too.
• 2:06:49
  SPEAKER_09: Because it's not that simple.
• 2:06:50
  SPEAKER_09: Guys, you're you're degrading.
• 2:06:52
  SPEAKER_09: What do you mean it's not that simple?
• 2:06:55
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like.
• 2:06:57
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so if I just want to identify as a man, I can like a woman that I can.
• 2:07:00
  SPEAKER_00: Just like, well, I'm a woman now.
• 2:07:01
  SPEAKER_00: If that's how you feel, yes.
• 2:07:03
  SPEAKER_00: I can't pop out a baby.
• 2:07:04
  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's disrespectful for women.
• 2:07:05
  SPEAKER_00: It feels like an NBA player.
• 2:07:08
  SPEAKER_00: But he hasn't had any of the accolades to be an NBA player.
• 2:07:12
  unknown: You guys are taking it personally.
• 2:07:13
  SPEAKER_05: I'm taking it personally for you as a woman.
• 2:07:16
  SPEAKER_09: When it's not, this is about them and who they why the fuck can't they be themselves?
• 2:07:20
  SPEAKER_05: No, they can absolutely be themselves.
• 2:07:21
  SPEAKER_05: Be themselves, but they can be themselves But they can't be a woman because they're not a woman.
• 2:07:26
  SPEAKER_08: No, whatever they do.
• 2:07:26
  SPEAKER_08: They don't even want to be themselves.
• 2:07:28
  SPEAKER_08: Well, we're arguing many, many topics at once.
• 2:07:30
  SPEAKER_08: Yes.
• 2:07:32
  SPEAKER_08: Red just said they don't even want to be themselves, they're selves that they are born as.
• 2:07:36
  SPEAKER_08: But hold on, hold on.
• 2:07:37
  SPEAKER_05: Hold on, hold on.
• 2:07:38
  SPEAKER_05: There's no such thing as that.
• 2:07:39
  SPEAKER_05: Hold on.
• 2:07:40
  SPEAKER_05: That's gobbledygoop.
• 2:07:41
  SPEAKER_05: Come on, we can't do that.
• 2:07:42
  SPEAKER_05: It has to be.
• 2:07:43
  SPEAKER_08: In terms of sexual and gender identity, it's not them fucking.
• 2:07:46
  SPEAKER_05: How many genders are there?
• 2:07:47
  SPEAKER_09: Them trying to be all this other self.
• 2:07:49
  SPEAKER_05: How many genders are there?
• 2:07:52
  SPEAKER_05: No, no.
• 2:07:53
  SPEAKER_05: According to um transgender.
• 2:07:56
  SPEAKER_05: One, there's it's not.
• 2:07:57
  SPEAKER_05: What's a cisgender?
• 2:07:58
  SPEAKER_09: It's not.
• 2:07:59
  SPEAKER_08: Okay, so cisgender just means you you're you identify as what you're born as.
• 2:08:06
  SPEAKER_09: So you're gay.
• 2:08:06
  SPEAKER_09: And you're saying cisgender, you're a cisgender male.
• 2:08:11
  SPEAKER_09: Because you are.
• 2:08:13
  SPEAKER_05: You're assuming you're assuming TC this is straight people.
• 2:08:20
  SPEAKER_05: That's straight people.
• 2:08:21
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 2:08:22
  SPEAKER_05: Why do we need the term cisgender for what?
• 2:08:24
  SPEAKER_05: What do we need for meaningless terms?
• 2:08:30
  SPEAKER_09: Two different things.
• 2:08:31
  SPEAKER_05: Alright.
• 2:08:32
  SPEAKER_05: Sexual identity is what you want to penetrate, right?
• 2:08:34
  SPEAKER_03: No, sexual identity.
• 2:08:36
  SPEAKER_03: Sexual identity who you're attracted to.
• 2:08:40
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so look, look.
• 2:08:41
  SPEAKER_03: So look, look, look, look.
• 2:08:42
  SPEAKER_05: Now I want her to educate me.
• 2:08:44
  SPEAKER_05: I want her to educate me.
• 2:08:45
  SPEAKER_05: So sexual identity is who you're attracted to.
• 2:08:47
  unknown: Gender identity is different.
• 2:08:48
  SPEAKER_05: So there's only two things you can penetrate, right?
• 2:08:51
  SPEAKER_05: A man or a woman.
• 2:08:54
  SPEAKER_05: Well Dogs.
• 2:08:55
  SPEAKER_05: Dogs are either men or women.
• 2:08:56
  SPEAKER_05: So what are you talking about?
• 2:08:58
  SPEAKER_09: There are people who are born with both.
• 2:09:00
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 2:09:01
  SPEAKER_03: They are maphrodite.
• 2:09:03
  unknown: So it's like it's a big thing.
• 2:09:03
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, so there's three things you can't be simple as.
• 2:09:05
  SPEAKER_05: No, I want to I wanna make it simple.
• 2:09:07
  SPEAKER_05: So there's three There's three things you can penetrate.
• 2:09:12
  SPEAKER_05: A man, a woman, or the both, right?
• 2:09:14
  SPEAKER_05: So why are they 82 genders then?
• 2:09:17
  SPEAKER_05: Why are the different talk it to the mic, talk it to the mic.
• 2:09:20
  SPEAKER_09: I to be honest, I don't know the whole complicated spectrum in terms of gender.
• 2:09:24
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I feel I feel like we're putting this all on you.
• 2:09:26
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's not really fair.
• 2:09:27
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 2:09:28
  SPEAKER_09: I don't know all of them.
• 2:09:29
  SPEAKER_09: I don't know all of them.
• 2:09:30
  SPEAKER_09: I'm just saying, like in terms of my personal opinion.
• 2:09:35
  SPEAKER_05: No, I don't either.
• 2:09:36
  SPEAKER_05: I care about my kids.
• 2:09:37
  SPEAKER_05: I care about my kids, right?
• 2:09:38
  SPEAKER_09: Your point as to why having a homosexual son would bother you that.
• 2:09:42
  SPEAKER_09: That makes sense, right?
• 2:09:43
  SPEAKER_09: Because it wasn't so much like it was the lineage.
• 2:09:46
  SPEAKER_09: Like I understand that.
• 2:09:51
  SPEAKER_05: So let me actually wish what should I do, right?
• 2:09:53
  SPEAKER_05: I have a son and there's a clear transgendered person across the street.
• 2:09:57
  SPEAKER_05: This is a man who looks like a woman.
• 2:09:59
  SPEAKER_05: And my son is attracted to this.
• 2:10:00
  SPEAKER_05: How do I explain to him that he's not wrong for being attracted to women features, but he's wrong for being attracted to a man that is trying to be a woman?
• 2:10:08
  SPEAKER_09: It's just him being aware.
• 2:10:11
  SPEAKER_09: That's what they're doing.
• 2:10:12
  SPEAKER_09: So do you think that's about all the things are going to be a good thing?
• 2:10:14
  SPEAKER_05: So you think it's fair that I have to tell my son he has to feel uncomfortable because somebody feels uncomfortable.
• 2:10:21
  SPEAKER_05: Why not?
• 2:10:21
  SPEAKER_05: I feel uncomfortable.
• 2:10:23
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 2:10:24
  SPEAKER_08: Yo, AG, the thing about that, yes, that is your responsibility because you chose to have you're supposed to be in control of um procreating, and you chose to have a child in this society.
• 2:10:35
  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
• 2:10:36
  SPEAKER_08: Therefore, yes.
• 2:10:37
  SPEAKER_08: So my argument all the time is I don't I want to have a child, but I do not want to have a kid in New York City.
• 2:10:42
  SPEAKER_08: I'm having seven of them.
• 2:10:43
  SPEAKER_03: I like I said, I had this conversation.
• 2:10:47
  SPEAKER_03: I had this conversation with my boy yesterday, and I don't even want to have kids in America.
• 2:10:51
  SPEAKER_03: Fuck New York.
• 2:10:52
  SPEAKER_03: Fuck fuck all this dumb shit.
• 2:10:54
  SPEAKER_03: It only happens here.
• 2:10:55
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I'm not gonna say it only happens here, but the level of this imposing of society happens.
• 2:11:01
  SPEAKER_03: I don't want to fucking look on TV and see two men kissing.
• 2:11:04
  SPEAKER_03: I don't want to see that shit.
• 2:11:05
  SPEAKER_05: Give them their own fucking channel.
• 2:11:07
  SPEAKER_05: Give them their own fucking channel.
• 2:11:08
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, like two people having sex outside regardless of gender is uncomfortable.
• 2:11:12
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 2:11:12
  SPEAKER_05: That's period.
• 2:11:13
  SPEAKER_05: And that's what people say.
• 2:11:14
  SPEAKER_05: So then you're okay with that.
• 2:11:15
  SPEAKER_05: So it's uncomfortable for me.
• 2:11:16
  SPEAKER_08: Yo, AG, at the same at the same token, all of this um uh gender specification or identifying bothers me because I don't care about anybody in the room's sexual identity.
• 2:11:28
  SPEAKER_08: I don't want to know, I don't give a shit unless I'm attracted to you what you are.
• 2:11:33
  SPEAKER_08: So that's why I think I think this whole conversation of identity is is a little too much.
• 2:11:39
  SPEAKER_08: There's a lot more shit that we should be talking about besides how you feel about something.
• 2:11:44
  SPEAKER_08: How about how about the the people who are living homeless in the street?
• 2:11:48
  SPEAKER_08: It's a little more important and we're giving no energy to it.
• 2:11:51
  SPEAKER_05: According to them, they should identify as rich.
• 2:11:53
  SPEAKER_05: And on that note.
• 2:12:00
  SPEAKER_08: I ain't getting fucked out attention.
• 2:12:10
  SPEAKER_09: People don't do it, you know, just to get attention.
• 2:12:12
  SPEAKER_09: It's hard.
• 2:12:13
  SPEAKER_09: And people get fucking killed over it.
• 2:12:15
  SPEAKER_09: I just don't think all the time.
• 2:12:16
  SPEAKER_09: Transgender women.
• 2:12:17
  SPEAKER_01: Their rationale just doesn't make sense.
• 2:12:19
  SPEAKER_01: And that's that's just to you.
• 2:12:21
  SPEAKER_09: It doesn't make sense to you.
• 2:12:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, but it makes sense to them.
• 2:12:23
  SPEAKER_01: No, but see, but then you can't just you can't.
• 2:12:25
  SPEAKER_01: I want to get one of them on the podcast.
• 2:12:26
  SPEAKER_01: Say two plus three is whose mic they're using.
• 2:12:29
  unknown: I can't speak.
• 2:12:32
  SPEAKER_03: They can come with their own mic.
• 2:12:33
  SPEAKER_01: But two plus three can does not equal six.
• 2:12:36
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 2:12:37
  SPEAKER_01: So like, even though they might believe two plus three equals six, that's not really the truth.
• 2:12:43
  SPEAKER_03: Why does that okay you're not gonna pour syrup on a shoe and call it a pancake?
• 2:12:46
  SPEAKER_03: That's just what we're not gonna do.
• 2:12:47
  unknown: Okay.
• 2:12:48
  SPEAKER_03: Call things as they are.
• 2:12:49
  SPEAKER_01: Because, like, how can you do it?
• 2:12:50
  SPEAKER_01: It's fine that you want to identify with something.
• 2:12:53
  SPEAKER_03: But listen.
• 2:12:54
  SPEAKER_03: So in terms of spade.
• 2:12:56
  SPEAKER_09: I think they feel that way in terms of what I guess the normal you know, the typical male.
• 2:13:02
  SPEAKER_08: Again, you're asking her to explain other people make up.
• 2:13:04
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, but she's defending it.
• 2:13:05
  SPEAKER_01: That's why I want her to do because to the She's giving you her best knowledge on the topic.
• 2:13:10
  SPEAKER_09: I'm defending people being who they feel like they are.
• 2:13:13
  SPEAKER_09: No, I am for that too.
• 2:13:14
  SPEAKER_09: I'm for that too.
• 2:13:16
  SPEAKER_09: That's a beautiful thing.
• 2:13:20
  SPEAKER_09: I'm not in their head, so I don't know what it feels like.
• 2:13:22
  SPEAKER_01: No, but I'm trying to get too at least a kid.
• 2:13:27
  SPEAKER_03: No, that's my that's my whole thing.
• 2:13:28
  SPEAKER_03: The sense of normal normality.
• 2:13:31
  SPEAKER_03: This shit is not people being a little bit.
• 2:13:32
  SPEAKER_03: I shouldn't even say normal.
• 2:13:33
  SPEAKER_03: It's not natural.
• 2:13:34
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't consider it.
• 2:13:36
  SPEAKER_01: No, because some of them go as some some go as far some go as far as to, you know, like I remember I was watching this TLC special on this kid who, you know, he's always did things that were considered girly, right?
• 2:13:49
  SPEAKER_01: Like sit down when he pees, play with dolls, dress.
• 2:13:52
  SPEAKER_01: What's his dad in his life?
• 2:13:53
  SPEAKER_01: I don't remember.
• 2:13:54
  SPEAKER_01: Was he touched?
• 2:13:54
  SPEAKER_01: I don't remember.
• 2:13:55
  SPEAKER_01: These are all variables.
• 2:13:56
  SPEAKER_01: I don't remember, but but then he now he wants to become take the go to the next step and fully become a woman.
• 2:14:02
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like, why?
• 2:14:03
  SPEAKER_01: Because you I because you like doing those things that was considered womanly.
• 2:14:06
  SPEAKER_01: I mean girly.
• 2:14:06
  SPEAKER_08: I don't want to stray too far, but Red just said naturally.
• 2:14:08
  SPEAKER_08: So that's why my my my mind has changed on certain things too, because naturally now it's a little fucked up.
• 2:14:14
  SPEAKER_08: Because we have an unnatural children.
• 2:14:16
  SPEAKER_08: Naturally, there's a lot of weed, man.
• 2:14:20
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, well, when you you're changing the context of it, I'm talking about natural as far as man and woman being born.
• 2:14:26
  SPEAKER_03: A man and woman, a man and woman, a man or a woman can't be born from two women or two men.
• 2:14:34
  SPEAKER_09: In terms of homosexuality, it doesn't only exist in our species.
• 2:14:39
  SPEAKER_09: So like there are other species who have sex with um the same sex.
• 2:14:44
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I just seen two lions doing that shit the other day.
• 2:14:46
  SPEAKER_05: Are they were they living in the wild?
• 2:14:48
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, whatever.
• 2:14:48
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, but captivity.
• 2:14:50
  SPEAKER_05: When I say normal white men, we're it happens in other species.
• 2:14:54
  SPEAKER_03: But when I say minority.
• 2:14:56
  SPEAKER_03: But when I say normal and natural, what I mean is a man or a woman cannot be procreated by two men or two women.
• 2:15:02
  SPEAKER_03: Ever.
• 2:15:03
  SPEAKER_03: So that's not normal.
• 2:15:04
  SPEAKER_03: It's not natural.
• 2:15:05
  SPEAKER_09: But why does that matter?
• 2:15:07
  SPEAKER_09: Why you can't make like if you're a couple of people.
• 2:15:09
  SPEAKER_05: That's why we're here.
• 2:15:10
  SPEAKER_09: It doesn't matter.
• 2:15:11
  SPEAKER_05: At the end of the day, that's why we're here.
• 2:15:12
  SPEAKER_09: There's too many people on this planet to begin with.
• 2:15:14
  SPEAKER_05: That's debatable.
• 2:15:15
  SPEAKER_09: So how is that debatable?
• 2:15:17
  SPEAKER_09: It's debatable.
• 2:15:17
  SPEAKER_09: There's way too many people who are going to be able to do that.
• 2:15:19
  SPEAKER_05: According to what metric.
• 2:15:22
  SPEAKER_09: In terms of the resources, that's what it is.
• 2:15:25
  SPEAKER_01: Let's not sway from the top.
• 2:15:27
  SPEAKER_01: We have enough, we have not a lot of material, sir.
• 2:15:29
  SPEAKER_05: We have enough food to eradicate um poverty and homelessness.
• 2:15:33
  SPEAKER_05: We just it's not in the best interest of the people at hand.
• 2:15:36
  SPEAKER_05: You know that it increases, right?
• 2:15:37
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, every year.
• 2:15:38
  SPEAKER_09: It keeps going, it keeps it.
• 2:15:39
  SPEAKER_05: Every yeah.
• 2:15:42
  SPEAKER_09: So you think exactly the earth does not have enough resources to sustain this for a very long time.
• 2:15:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know how much trees get eaten up, son.
• 2:15:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but we're not supposed to be small things.
• 2:15:51
  SPEAKER_09: So back to the topic.
• 2:15:52
  SPEAKER_09: I do feel like that night.
• 2:15:55
  SPEAKER_09: He may not know the complexity in terms of what he's identifying with.
• 2:15:58
  SPEAKER_09: I do agree with that.
• 2:15:59
  SPEAKER_09: But when you're not gay, you do have a question.
• 2:16:01
  SPEAKER_09: So he had a crush on a boy.
• 2:16:03
  SPEAKER_05: That makes you gay.
• 2:16:04
  SPEAKER_09: I'm saying I don't know if he identifies as that.
• 2:16:07
  SPEAKER_09: Like, I don't know if he understands what I'm identifying at, but I believe that he can't.
• 2:16:12
  SPEAKER_08: That's a good question, AG.
• 2:16:14
  SPEAKER_08: Because that's that's my shit to lesbians and gays.
• 2:16:16
  SPEAKER_08: A lot of people are identifying this shit and never tried anything in their life.
• 2:16:22
  SPEAKER_08: That's another spectrum I don't understand at all.
• 2:16:24
  SPEAKER_08: Yo, this shit is so complex.
• 2:16:25
  SPEAKER_05: Try to be a woman and see how you like it.
• 2:16:27
  SPEAKER_05: Yo, this shit is just so complex.
• 2:16:29
  SPEAKER_08: You can't try to be a woman because I'm not a woman.
• 2:16:31
  SPEAKER_05: It's impossible to identify.
• 2:16:34
  SPEAKER_03: That's why I think the numbers are so inflated.
• 2:16:37
  SPEAKER_05: No, you know.
• 2:16:39
  SPEAKER_05: You know what's crazy?
• 2:16:39
  SPEAKER_05: They make up like less than 1% of the population.
• 2:16:42
  SPEAKER_05: And we are speaking hours on this.
• 2:16:44
  SPEAKER_05: And these people don't, like, in the grand scheme of things, don't matter.
• 2:16:48
  SPEAKER_05: Like they they don't they're not a big population, but they have um legislator, legislature.
• 2:16:54
  SPEAKER_03: Who's not a big population?
• 2:16:55
  SPEAKER_05: Gays.
• 2:16:55
  SPEAKER_05: You're fucking crazy.
• 2:16:56
  SPEAKER_05: I'm telling you, they're not.
• 2:16:57
  SPEAKER_03: You're crazy.
• 2:16:57
  SPEAKER_03: In the grand scheme of small populations.
• 2:17:00
  SPEAKER_03: Listen, gay affects everybody.
• 2:17:02
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, no.
• 2:17:03
  SPEAKER_05: I'm just talking about how many gay people are uh the number.
• 2:17:06
  SPEAKER_05: No, I'm talking about America.
• 2:17:07
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know about the world.
• 2:17:08
  SPEAKER_05: No, there's not that there's not that many, I'm telling you.
• 2:17:10
  unknown: Dense populations, especially.
• 2:17:12
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we just live in a very dense place.
• 2:17:14
  SPEAKER_05: That's the thing.
• 2:17:14
  SPEAKER_05: If you if the whole of America were to line up, there's not that many gay people.
• 2:17:17
  SPEAKER_05: But they have more rights than they have more rights than a black person.
• 2:17:22
  SPEAKER_05: And my issue is why do they get to align themselves with black civil rights?
• 2:17:27
  SPEAKER_05: Because the black lives matter movement has become the gay lives matter movement.
• 2:17:31
  SPEAKER_05: I don't understand that because I can't hide being black.
• 2:17:34
  SPEAKER_03: Can I just go on record and saying that I never supported the Black Lives Matter movement from day one?
• 2:17:38
  SPEAKER_05: Neither did Lil Wayne.
• 2:17:39
  SPEAKER_05: Fuck that.
• 2:17:41
  SPEAKER_01: All right, here we go.
• 2:17:43
  SPEAKER_03: Because I think that I personally feel that the Black Lives Matter movement is a bunch of r uh what's the word I'm looking for?
• 2:17:50
  SPEAKER_03: Race Bingo.
• 2:17:50
  SPEAKER_03: Social justice warriors.
• 2:17:52
  SPEAKER_03: God damn word! I'm trying to help you.
• 2:17:55
  SPEAKER_03: Um it's a bunch of rhetoric.
• 2:17:58
  SPEAKER_03: And nothing actually gets done.
• 2:18:02
  SPEAKER_03: That's why you hate it.
• 2:18:09
  SPEAKER_03: Marching in the streets.
• 2:18:10
  SPEAKER_01: That's actually a poor reason to hate uh black rights.
• 2:18:14
  SPEAKER_03: You know, Black Lives Matter is ran by a white person.
• 2:18:16
  SPEAKER_01: But that's cool, but as long as the message is Black Lives Matter, that's all that matters.
• 2:18:22
  SPEAKER_05: I don't think they're ran.
• 2:18:24
  unknown: Other people try to drag it.
• 2:18:25
  SPEAKER_05: The builder bird, the leader is all lives matter.
• 2:18:28
  SPEAKER_05: Their leader is D-Ray, and he's gay.
• 2:18:30
  SPEAKER_05: And then Black Twitter was asking the uh can can uh the no not D-Ray.
• 2:18:36
  SPEAKER_05: He wasn't even got a mic.
• 2:18:37
  SPEAKER_05: Why am I talking to you?
• 2:18:38
  SPEAKER_05: So the D-Ray guy, D-Ray is the the leader, like the face of it, and he's a gay black man.
• 2:18:42
  SPEAKER_05: And people are asking, can a gay black man leave our whole people?
• 2:18:47
  SPEAKER_05: Because they're aligning gay rights with black rights.
• 2:18:50
  SPEAKER_03: I was gonna I was gonna say that's a very that's a very uh gray area.
• 2:18:55
  SPEAKER_03: If you're gonna if you're a gay black person who's promoting black uh you know, promoting things about black injustice and things of that nature, great, but keep the homo shit out of it.
• 2:19:05
  SPEAKER_05: They can't do that though.
• 2:19:06
  SPEAKER_05: Why?
• 2:19:06
  SPEAKER_05: See, that's the problem because he's a gay black man.
• 2:19:09
  SPEAKER_08: The reason the reason that um civil uh black gay black man.
• 2:19:15
  SPEAKER_05: But he's black, but he just happens to be gay.
• 2:19:17
  SPEAKER_08: That's how I would look at it.
• 2:19:18
  SPEAKER_08: No matter the topic, unfortunately, no matter the topic, in America, civil rights will easily get trumped over the next thing because nobody wants to talk about blacks having their rights.
• 2:19:27
  SPEAKER_05: That's what I'm saying.
• 2:19:27
  SPEAKER_05: Do you not see the change that Obama did?
• 2:19:29
  SPEAKER_05: Like, I'm a I'm an Obama.
• 2:19:31
  SPEAKER_08: Nobody sees it.
• 2:19:31
  SPEAKER_08: You have to sit down with a list of exactly what I'm saying.
• 2:19:34
  SPEAKER_05: No, but most of the shit that he did was for gays.
• 2:19:36
  SPEAKER_05: He did more for gays than he did for black people.
• 2:19:38
  SPEAKER_08: Dramatic.
• 2:19:39
  SPEAKER_08: He did it for humanity, not just blacks.
• 2:19:40
  SPEAKER_08: And that's the people that that's the thing that a lot of people overlook.
• 2:19:43
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, he did nothing for blacks.
• 2:19:44
  SPEAKER_05: But the the black population is bigger than the gay population.
• 2:19:47
  SPEAKER_05: Why do they get so much support?
• 2:19:48
  unknown: It's what he can get done.
• 2:19:50
  SPEAKER_05: That's bullshit.
• 2:19:52
  SPEAKER_03: Actually, I'm an Obama guy.
• 2:19:53
  SPEAKER_06: Sometimes it's easier to focus on smaller issues.
• 2:19:57
  SPEAKER_03: Obama did shit for other cultures.
• 2:19:59
  SPEAKER_03: Um the gay culture.
• 2:20:00
  SPEAKER_03: No, no, no, no, outside of uh what you call it.
• 2:20:03
  SPEAKER_03: Um the gay culture.
• 2:20:05
  SPEAKER_03: They didn't really, you know, do for blacks, but I supported Obama, though, and I would vote for him again.
• 2:20:10
  SPEAKER_05: He should have ran for a third term.
• 2:20:12
  SPEAKER_05: Honestly.
• 2:20:15
  SPEAKER_05: No, Michelle could be mean.
• 2:20:17
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, you're right.
• 2:20:17
  SPEAKER_05: You're right about that.
• 2:20:18
  SPEAKER_05: No, you're right.
• 2:20:19
  SPEAKER_05: That's the law.
• 2:20:19
  SPEAKER_05: That's the law.
• 2:20:20
  SPEAKER_05: You can't have three consecutive terms.
• 2:20:21
  SPEAKER_05: You can have three terms.
• 2:20:23
  SPEAKER_05: No, you can.
• 2:20:24
  SPEAKER_05: This nigga did it.
• 2:20:24
  SPEAKER_05: Um, what's his name?
• 2:20:26
  SPEAKER_05: Garfield?
• 2:20:26
  SPEAKER_05: That was Garfield.
• 2:20:28
  SPEAKER_05: What was this nigga's name?
• 2:20:28
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, another president did it.
• 2:20:30
  SPEAKER_06: But that was when he was the vice president in the city.
• 2:20:32
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, no, no.
• 2:20:33
  SPEAKER_05: He was the president for three separate terms.
• 2:20:35
  SPEAKER_03: But I think it was like some shit happened.
• 2:20:37
  SPEAKER_03: It was a it was a technical error, it was a technical error.
• 2:20:40
  SPEAKER_02: No, you just can't be president for three consecutive terms.
• 2:20:43
  SPEAKER_05: And that that's a new rule, you know.
• 2:20:44
  SPEAKER_05: Um that becomes like a dictatorship if you look at it.
• 2:20:46
  SPEAKER_05: No, this guy uh term limits.
• 2:20:48
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, they that's new.
• 2:20:49
  SPEAKER_05: Term limits didn't wasn't always within the presidency.
• 2:20:51
  SPEAKER_05: Bloomberg did it for mayor.
• 2:20:53
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he changed the boy.
• 2:20:54
  SPEAKER_05: He gotta change the back.
• 2:20:55
  SPEAKER_05: He tried to change it back.
• 2:20:57
  SPEAKER_03: Fuck Bloomberg.
• 2:20:58
  SPEAKER_05: He was alright.
• 2:20:59
  SPEAKER_05: He gave us a lot of snow days.
• 2:21:00
  SPEAKER_05: He did.
• 2:21:02
  SPEAKER_03: Bloomberg, uh yo, you know what's crazy?
• 2:21:03
  SPEAKER_03: I honestly think I'd go on record and saying uh as far as a mayor of the city.
• 2:21:09
  SPEAKER_03: The Bluzio.
• 2:21:12
  SPEAKER_03: Um Bloomberg, uh, I think that Giuliani was probably a better uh mayor.
• 2:21:17
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, Giuliani?
• 2:21:18
  SPEAKER_03: He's a racist, though.
• 2:21:20
  SPEAKER_03: Regardless of his his his his racial shit or whatever, I'm just talking about as far as like standing up.
• 2:21:26
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, okay.
• 2:21:27
  SPEAKER_05: Like so New York first, race second.
• 2:21:30
  SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
• 2:21:30
  SPEAKER_05: New York first, race second.
• 2:21:32
  SPEAKER_03: What are you talking about?
• 2:21:33
  SPEAKER_05: He's a racist.
• 2:21:34
  SPEAKER_03: Look at everybody's a fucking racist.
• 2:21:35
  SPEAKER_03: No, I'm not a racist.
• 2:21:36
  SPEAKER_05: I'm a feminist, definitely.
• 2:21:38
  SPEAKER_03: Everybody's a racist.
• 2:21:39
  SPEAKER_03: On that note, um Everybody's not a bigot.
• 2:21:42
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 2:21:43
  SPEAKER_05: On that note, I think we should rap.
• 2:21:44
  SPEAKER_05: Um, Zap uh take us out of this uh glorious rap and zap wine identify as a feminist black man, right?
• 2:21:50
  SPEAKER_05: That's how it goes?
• 2:21:52
  SPEAKER_05: Man of color.
• 2:21:52
  SPEAKER_05: Black gender.
• 2:21:54
  SPEAKER_05: Cisgender feminism.
• 2:21:55
  SPEAKER_06: Cis just sounds gay like sis.
• 2:21:57
  SPEAKER_05: I don't want to be called that.
• 2:21:58
  SPEAKER_05: I'm offended by that.
• 2:21:59
  SPEAKER_05: But uh but uh take us out, man.
• 2:22:02
  SPEAKER_05: This hasn't been gay money.
• 2:22:03
  SPEAKER_05: This hasn't been cis money.
• 2:22:04
  SPEAKER_03: Definitely hasn't been gay money.
• 2:22:07
  SPEAKER_06: This has been gas money.