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Summer Special - Campground Slashers + More ft. PlanetCHH & Born2BeRad! · Beyond The Blood: A Horror Movie Commentary Podcast

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  Speaker 3: All right, what's going on? Everybody? Welcome back to the
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  Speaker 3: Beyond the Blood Podcast. My name is Chris. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: be your host tonight, and I'm very very happy. I'm
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  Speaker 3: sitting around a fire currently burning my hot dog on
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  Speaker 3: a stick. I don't know if this thing's even gonna survive,
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  Speaker 3: but tonight we're hanging out, just chatting about some summer
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  Speaker 3: horror movies and I got a couple of people with
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  Speaker 3: me that I want to introduce to you. One of
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  Speaker 3: them as always my beautiful co host Steve. How are
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  Speaker 3: you man?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's quite the intro, thanks man. I am super
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  Speaker 4: pumped to be here. I am working on trying to
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  Speaker 4: make some scores over here and ready to talk some
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  Speaker 4: some camp slashers.
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  Speaker 3: Is that your favorite like go to campfire snack?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? I think it's a pretty safe.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, that's good all around.
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  Speaker 5: That's good.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what these other guys' favorite snacks are,
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  Speaker 3: but we got a couple of a couple of extras
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  Speaker 3: with us who I'm super excited to have on. One
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  Speaker 3: of them has never been on the show before. The
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  Speaker 3: other one is a returning a legend. So I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: start with with the new guy around the fire. We
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  Speaker 3: have Garrett from Born to b rad On. How are
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  Speaker 3: you man?
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  Speaker 5: Oh man, I'm doing well. Thanks for having me. It's
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  Speaker 5: a nice night out here tonight, just chilling. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: I just I just the other guy that's with me now,
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  Speaker 5: Like he just bought me a steak and stuff, so
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  Speaker 5: we how stabbed before we came over. So I mean
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  Speaker 5: I'm good right now. But those smores they're looking pretty good, Steve,
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  Speaker 5: so I might I might jump one of those poplay
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  Speaker 5: they got you guys.
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  Speaker 3: You guys rolled up to the local Applebee's.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah no, I was a nice place, nice place,
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  Speaker 5: but this is nice out here. I like it.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, yeah, of course, Man Always and
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  Speaker 3: Christian Planet HH, welcome back to the podcast, ass Man.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. I had a great time last time. I
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  Speaker 1: expect no different this time.
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  Speaker 3: So how much was your bill over at the Chris
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  Speaker 3: Ruth Steakhouse?
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  Speaker 1: You took Garret too before he came to the campaign
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  Speaker 1: put I put it on the I put it on
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  Speaker 1: the credit card. Let's just say it's on credit. He
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  Speaker 1: was hungry too.
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  Speaker 3: You guys want to hear something really crazy? Though I've
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  Speaker 3: I've never had a fire.
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  Speaker 1: Sid's more of a no way.
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  Speaker 5: How's your chance man?
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  Speaker 4: He's yeah, you up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody's somebody's got to teach me. Got to hold
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  Speaker 3: my hand to hold Chris covered.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know about that part, but.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got an unsteady hand. So I wanted to
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  Speaker 3: get everyone together because we're currently in the middle of,
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  Speaker 3: you know, transitioning from season one to season two, and
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  Speaker 3: this is our first year We've only been doing this
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  Speaker 3: show for seven months now, and we we're trying to
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  Speaker 3: think of a way to kind of have a fun
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  Speaker 3: lapse in the super deep detailed coverage that we've been doing,
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  Speaker 3: and we were like, oh, it's summer. We got to
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  Speaker 3: talk campground Slashers. And I know this is probably to
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  Speaker 3: most people and over discussed subgenre, but to me, I
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  Speaker 3: feel like having good people around me, the conversation never
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  Speaker 3: can feel over discussed, and I feel like there's always
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  Speaker 3: new input that have on it, especially this time of
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  Speaker 3: year when we're vibing in it, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: So I want to ask you guys, And I'm actually
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  Speaker 3: gonna start with Christian, what the campground Slasher? What is
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  Speaker 3: your history with it? Why do you love it so much?
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  Speaker 3: Give me like a brief history of why you love it.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm actually not really a big fan, So I
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  Speaker 1: don't know why he asked me to do this. No,
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  Speaker 1: I guess it started with Friday the thirteenth, right, I
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  Speaker 1: mean everything kind of culminated with everything started with Elm
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  Speaker 1: Street two. And I think I even told this on
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  Speaker 1: the last one, so I won't get into that too
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  Speaker 1: much again. But the very first like campfire horror movie.
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  Speaker 1: I saw it was you know what, it was either
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  Speaker 1: Friday the thirteenth, or it might have been the Eli
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  Speaker 1: Roth movie because I remember renting that with my friends.
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  Speaker 1: What's the name of Fever? It might have been Cappin
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  Speaker 1: Fever was my first one. But you know, growing I
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  Speaker 1: used to camp all the time as a kid. Growing up.
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  Speaker 1: We used to go to Sant Pernod State Park all
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  Speaker 1: the time, and I used to feed to alligators and
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  Speaker 1: at night my dad would take us out and he
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  Speaker 1: would literally just catch snakes out of the pond back there,
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  Speaker 1: because I mean, it was the Bayu. It was basically
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  Speaker 1: like water Boys House with Mama Bouche down there. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I lived it more than anything. But in terms of
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  Speaker 1: like consciously knowing about the genre, I guess of the
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  Speaker 1: campfire horror film, it had to have been Friday the thirteenth,
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  Speaker 1: the original that one, And I don't know that I've
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  Speaker 1: seen a better one quite frankly, some really good ones,
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  Speaker 1: but to me that might be the best ones. So
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  Speaker 1: that's where it started for me, and I never really
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  Speaker 1: consciously looked into watching movies that are like, Okay, I
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  Speaker 1: want to watch more campfire naturally I did. But you
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  Speaker 1: know what's not to love about that? It's the perfect
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  Speaker 1: It really is the perfect setting for a horror slasher film.
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  Speaker 1: There are some bad wins, which I hope I can
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  Speaker 1: talk shit about some of those tonight, but there is
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  Speaker 1: also a lot of great ones. So that's definitely it's
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  Speaker 1: a cliche answer, but I'm sorry. Sometimes a classic is
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  Speaker 1: just a classic. So Friday the thirteenth is probably the
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  Speaker 1: where I consciously was saying, Okay, this is the home
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  Speaker 1: of Jason, so to speak. Yeah, definitely that one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's funny too because you know, we're
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  Speaker 3: we're in going into July, and I still haven't really
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  Speaker 3: tapped into watching the summer horror movies yet because there's
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  Speaker 3: something to seeing everybody in like sweatshirts around the fire,
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  Speaker 3: so it shows it's a little cold at night. It's
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  Speaker 3: a little chilly, So to me, that gives off like
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  Speaker 3: late August and early September, at least here in in
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  Speaker 3: New Jersey lucky. So you know, we're you know, we
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  Speaker 3: over here. We we changed seasons, man, we we you know,
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  Speaker 3: we go we transition summer fall. I don't know about
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  Speaker 3: everybody else on here, but so to me, that's kind
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  Speaker 3: of the vibe that I get. But Friday the thirteenth
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  Speaker 3: is for sure the first one that was the one
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  Speaker 3: that kicked it off from me. Garrett. What about you, man,
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  Speaker 3: Where where did uh where did your affinity for this
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  Speaker 3: kind of subgenre come from?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean and kind of like Christian said, growing up,
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  Speaker 5: I went camping a lot with the family. Luckily, here
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  Speaker 5: in the Northeast there's no gators, so that that's that's
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  Speaker 5: a little bit different than I've actually never seen a
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  Speaker 5: gator outside of a zoo in my life, so, uh
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  Speaker 5: so we don't have that here. But yeah, I always
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  Speaker 5: loved camping, man, And you know, it was one of
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  Speaker 5: those things too where in the summer my parents would
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  Speaker 5: always make me go to like a summer camp. But
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  Speaker 5: like the summer camp I went to around here was
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  Speaker 5: like a day camp. You'd go and like you'd have
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  Speaker 5: counselors and stuff, but then they pick you up like
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  Speaker 5: at the end of the day and they bring you
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  Speaker 5: back in the morning. And I always was kind of
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  Speaker 5: a little bit envious, and I'm still envious of these
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  Speaker 5: like overnight sleeping cabin type of camps. Like I never
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  Speaker 5: did that. Like so much so where I literally would
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  Speaker 5: like love to have some kind of like adult camp
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  Speaker 5: for a week when we go in like cabin up
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  Speaker 5: and do stuff like I always talk about that. I'm dude,
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  Speaker 5: that would be so killer to like go to one
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  Speaker 5: of those things kind of relived that, like going you know,
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  Speaker 5: swimming or you know, doing games and all this other shit.
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  Speaker 5: And it really was. Friday thirteenth was the first one
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  Speaker 5: that really kind of triggered it for me. Like I've
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  Speaker 5: talked about this before, my uncle really introduced me to
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  Speaker 5: Friday at thirteenth For him, he introduced me to part
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  Speaker 5: three first. But obviously, you know, seeing the setting of
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  Speaker 5: the camping and stuff like that as I got a
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  Speaker 5: little bit older, really drew me in. And you know,
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  Speaker 5: being a huge fan of Are You Afraid of the Dark?
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  Speaker 5: With them around the campfire like that literally like set
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  Speaker 5: it off for me when it comes to the subgenre.
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  Speaker 5: And I absolutely love this subgenre. And I do think
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  Speaker 5: that this time of year is really the perfect time
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  Speaker 5: to kind of watch these And you know, I just
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  Speaker 5: did a video talking about a bunch of these, so
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  Speaker 5: I have recently watched a lot leading up to this
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  Speaker 5: as of late. And you'd be surprised. Like when you
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  Speaker 5: think of you know, summer camp slashers and stuff, you
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  Speaker 5: think there's like thousands out there. There's not as many
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  Speaker 5: as I think people think because it's such a subgenre
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  Speaker 5: that people talk about all the time, or if they
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  Speaker 5: spoof it, they're always out of campfire or a camping
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  Speaker 5: or something like that. But I mean, you'd be surprised,
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  Speaker 5: like when it came to me talking about the well
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  Speaker 5: known ones and under overlooked ones, like there wasn't a
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  Speaker 5: ton out there to kind of choose from. So I
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  Speaker 5: think it's a little bit of misconception with it. But
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  Speaker 5: like Christian said, there's great ones and there's shit out
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  Speaker 5: there too, So I'm excited to kind of talk about
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  Speaker 5: this when you guys.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was funny. When we were doing research for this,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, let me see if I can find
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  Speaker 3: some that I that I've never seen. And our list
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  Speaker 3: went from like fourteen to eight, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: And we didn't start with like thirty and whittle down.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, here's like thirteen fourteen that we
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  Speaker 3: can now whittle down. So Steve, you I do want
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  Speaker 3: to ask the same question for you, where did this
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  Speaker 3: all start for you. My second question is, if you
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  Speaker 3: go camping and you have to go to the bathroom,
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  Speaker 3: are you a bring the toilet paper with you or
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  Speaker 3: wipe with the leads?
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  Speaker 4: Guy, Well, let's start with the first question. So it
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  Speaker 4: all comes back to I used to go I believe
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  Speaker 4: it was like late July early August. Growing up. We
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  Speaker 4: would go up north with like like some friends or whatever,
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  Speaker 4: and it was kind of like a yearly thing where
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  Speaker 4: we would go up there, usually for like a week,
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  Speaker 4: two weeks at a time at most, and it was
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  Speaker 4: all like coordinated through we'd like I'm trying to think
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  Speaker 4: the program was coordinated through a church that I was
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  Speaker 4: going to at the time. So we went out there
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  Speaker 4: and they organized everything. But like once you're out there,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you're you're out there. You're not coming back
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  Speaker 4: for however, like the week or two weeks that they
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  Speaker 4: have you out there for so pretty cool experience. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I remember being younger and it was kind of kind
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  Speaker 4: of crazy being away from home for that long. But
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  Speaker 4: I mean, overall, it definitely triggered that that interests I
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  Speaker 4: had in you know, these camp slashers and things like that. Eventually,
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  Speaker 4: and that eventually led me to to get into Friday
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  Speaker 4: the Thirteenth. That was my gateway drug into the subgenre
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  Speaker 4: and picked up a lot of those like VHS tapes
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  Speaker 4: at the video store and couldn't get enough of it
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  Speaker 4: and then just went from there.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, have you guys ever read In the
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  Speaker 3: early two thousands, there was a series of Friday the
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  Speaker 3: Thirteenth novels that came out. Do you guys remember these,
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  Speaker 3: like hell Lake, Church of the Divine Psychopath.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like when people bring these up. I hate
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  Speaker 1: because I want them so bad.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, I got a guy near me. I got
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  Speaker 3: a guy named retelling them for six hundred dollars bro.
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  Speaker 3: So it's it's wild, dude. It's like these horror books
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  Speaker 3: is wild and it's so crazy. You bring that up
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  Speaker 3: because I just dropped the show where my guest had them.
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  Speaker 5: And he's showing me.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, it's not a bitch like I saw that had.
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  Speaker 5: Any of these, you know, And it's just crazy because
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  Speaker 5: they are so cool and being a big fan of
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  Speaker 5: like arl Stein and stuff back in the day, like
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  Speaker 5: I would love to have these. There was Freddy Ones,
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  Speaker 5: they had the Elm Street ones and Destination I mean
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  Speaker 5: Freddie Ones in Front, thirteenth Ones and Elm Street whatever.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, they they are. They're expensive, man, and they
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  Speaker 5: are super cool and I wish that was something I
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  Speaker 5: was into back then.
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  Speaker 3: I had them when I was a kid, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and being stupid. I don't know what I did with them,
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  Speaker 3: and uh, just Steve talking about his experience with the
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  Speaker 3: church the one book. Church of the Divine Psychopath is
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  Speaker 3: a church group that goes to Camp Crystal Lake, and
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  Speaker 3: if I remember correctly, I think the pastor of the
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  Speaker 3: church they bring them there for like a like a
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  Speaker 3: prayer resort, and they accidentally say a prayer and they
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  Speaker 3: awaken Jason, and then Jason killing everybody off, and then
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  Speaker 3: the FBI or no, I'm sorry, this Watt team shows up.
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  Speaker 3: But like there's a scene from Is It Is It
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  Speaker 3: Hatchet Too when the couple when they're having sex in
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  Speaker 3: the woods and he gets his head cut off and
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  Speaker 3: he starts, Yeah, that's in that Church of the Divine
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  Speaker 3: Psychopath book sort of.
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  Speaker 1: They did a lot of them Friday the Thirteenth books.
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  Speaker 1: I got a buddy named Lauren. He lives in New
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  Speaker 1: Jersey too, and he's got like all the Jason X Books,
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  Speaker 1: which I don't even know they made Jason X books
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  Speaker 1: and eBay and them is just like a dagger to
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  Speaker 1: the chest.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can find like I found like PDF copies
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  Speaker 3: of them that you can read online, and then I.
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  Speaker 1: Don't want to I don't want to read them. I
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  Speaker 1: want to phone them. I want the Fridays more that
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  Speaker 1: I have more collecting Friday the thirteenth and Nightmare and
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  Speaker 1: arm Street stuff, So the Fridays I want so bad.
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  Speaker 1: I keep trying to get lucky and find them. But
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  Speaker 1: you know how it is, It's.
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  Speaker 4: Just like, what do the books go for so much?
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  Speaker 1: Because it's Friday the thirteenth? Man?
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  Speaker 5: And I think it's probably they might have I mean
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  Speaker 5: again they maybe they were like a limited pressing. It
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  Speaker 5: doesn't seem like they have like a repressed or anything.
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  Speaker 5: So it's probably like whatever's out there is out there.
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  Speaker 5: But there was a bunch of them. I think. I
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  Speaker 5: think what was there, like, maybe was there ten or
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  Speaker 5: even or even less than that?
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  Speaker 4: Anything?
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  Speaker 3: I'm but I had four Final Destination ones, I had
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  Speaker 3: two Nightmare and LM Street ones, I had three Friday
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  Speaker 3: Thirteenth ones, and I had one of the Jason X ones.
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  Speaker 5: I guess I'm just old because I don't even remember
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  Speaker 5: any of this like being available.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah I didn't, Yeah, because.
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  Speaker 3: I got bold stuff right, Like, oh dude, they weren't.
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  Speaker 3: They were not made for kids four teenagers. They were
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  Speaker 3: straight up at like adult novels.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's okay, go ahead, Garrett. I'm sorry, go ahead,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead.
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  Speaker 5: No. No, I was just gonna say, do you think that,
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  Speaker 5: like thinking about the ones like you just mentioned the
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  Speaker 5: one where they go to camp, you know, with the
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  Speaker 5: priest and all that, Like a part of me is
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  Speaker 5: kind of like that actually would have kind of been
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  Speaker 5: a cool sequel, like of some kind like that that storyline,
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  Speaker 5: Like is that Sometimes when you read these comics or
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: books that are based off this movie, sometimes you're like,
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  Speaker 5: why don't they just use this to make a movie?
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  Speaker 5: Like the Lost Boys comic books are like some of
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  Speaker 5: the stuff they talk about in there, I'm like, dude,
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  Speaker 5: this should have been the sequel. Like this literally like
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: is exactly what the sequel should have been, so which
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  Speaker 5: is wild.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked about that with I think we were
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  Speaker 3: on a live stream and I was kind of going
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: through the plots of some of the Final Destination books
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: and one of them was at one of them was
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: at a rock concert and it was on like the
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: second floor of a venue, which in Philly we have
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  Speaker 3: plenty of those, and the venue, the floor collapses and
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  Speaker 3: kills a bunch of people, and then that's the that's
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  Speaker 3: the story. There was another one that was kind of
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: sort of like Bloodlines, where it was like a descendant
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  Speaker 3: of it was like a distant relative of this family
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  Speaker 3: was supposed to be killed by Jack the Ripper, but
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  Speaker 3: Jack the Ripper was caught pursuing her, was killed, and
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  Speaker 3: then years later her bloodline starts getting killed off one
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  Speaker 3: by one because they weren't supposed to exist. So these books, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: some of them are wild man, even to adaptations like
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  Speaker 3: I had the adaptation of Final Bestation three. There's a
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  Speaker 3: bunch of dun I was a stupid, fucking kid. I
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: don't know what I did with those. It was the
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: same I remember getting a bunch of those the same
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: Christmas that I got Peter Brack's Crystal Like Memories. It
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: was like the year that came out. This a while ago, Yeah,
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: so long time ago. Let's use this as a segue though,
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: because we have a little list of titles that I
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: think Steve and I kind of felt where ideal for conversation,
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: and we've.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Already talked about the first one of bunch.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't think you can talk about the
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: subgenre without talking about Friday at thirteenth. And as for me,
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: when I was a kid, my mom was super lenient
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: about what she let us watch. I talk about all
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: the time how I saw The Exorcist when I was
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: like eight and that fucked me up for my rest
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: of my life. And I remember steal stealing the Friday
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: the Thirteenth DVD from my mom's best friend's house. It's
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: a paramount DVD, and I snuck it and I was like, oh,
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: I know, I see why my mom didn't want me
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: to watch this, but that just made me want to
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: watch it even more. And I remember years later, I
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: think I was like in high school. I was like
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: she went, she was like, I'm going to show you
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Friday the thirteenth, and I was like, I've seen that.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: I was like, I've seen all of them by now.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: She's like, oh shit, But you know for me, like
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: like everybody said here, this is ideal. You know, this
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: is the go to summer slasher for me. And I
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: think I want to bring this up because we did
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: an episode on The Burning, which, if you dive into
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: a history of the Burning, it was technically like being
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: written before Friday the thirteenth. Then it came out right
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: after Friday the thirteenth, so there were some kind of
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: questions as to what came first. The question that I
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: want to pitch to you guys is the same question
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: that I pitched to our guests on the Burning episode.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: If The Burning comes out before Friday the thirteenth, do
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: we have twelve cropsy sequels? Does it take up the
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: same legacy as Friday the thirteenth has, or no, does
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: Friday thirteenth still end up coming out and taking over.
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: I think Friday still takes over, but it would be interesting.
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: And I think the reason Friday probably takes over is
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: because I think the gimmick that they used with the
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: thirteen and the Kills and all that stuff kind of
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: really I think helped it. And then with the whole
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: idea of like know, Pamela kind of being the one,
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: and then as the sequels came on, they could kind
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: of take that Jason character now and run with it.
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: I don't know, but you know, I always did hear
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: that too, with The Burning taking credit for being the first.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: But how does it work, because is it it was
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: written before, right, because it couldn't have been made It
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: could have been made during the same time because SLAVENI
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: jumped right on that from Friday, right.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was being written. Supposedly, there was already
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: multiple drafts of the script done before Friday the thirteenth
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: started the marketing campaign they launched before they even started
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: making the movie. So it's kind of like it's a
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: very you know, there's nothing concrete. I think it's it's
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: a matter of two movies very closely related to each other.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: It just happened to be going on at the same time.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: It was just interesting to me though, because when we
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: were preparing for The Burning, I was like, I can't
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: imagine walking into you know, Spirit Halloween and there's a
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: cropsy mask or there's a pair of sheer you know,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: hanging up instead of Jason. Like it's kind of it's
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: weird to think about a world where Jason is not.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, I would I would like to think of
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: a world without the now renowned Jason universe. I would
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: like to go back to the world before this, but
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: you know, it is what it is. So I thought
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: that was an interesting question because I think it's always
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: it's always cool to think about what would have been,
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean too.
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: Should have happened. Personally, I would have loved that, you know,
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: I think that that was the Yeah, community, I did
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: a show talking about The Burning and Madman, and that
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: was another whole issue too, is that Madman and The
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: Burning were both based on the Cropsy story and they
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: had to really kind of change the Madman movie basically
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: because they were like, it's gonna be way too close
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: to the Burning, and we can't have that They're beginning
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: coming out like at the exact same time. So they
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: ended up going back and like changing it up a
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: little bit with mad Man, and you know, I'm just
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: curious to kind of see what that would have been
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: if they didn't change it in what it would have
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: been like, I don't I guess Burning. I don't remember
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: if that came out first, but I always those are
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: the always two I always kind of put together as well,
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: along with Fred thirteenth.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: But the Burning was before mad Man technically released day wise, it.
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: Was they filmed it around the same areas too, I believe.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but let's let's put all these in a group.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: So because you know, all three of these are are
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: are up on the board tonight. So we have Friday thirteenth,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: we have the Burning, you have mad Man, all three
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: of which I think are like non negotiable. You have
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: to see as far as campground slashers go, right, all
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: of them. For me, I I as much as I
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: love Friday the thirteenth, I do love the Burning just
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: as much. I don't have as much fun with the
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Burning as I do with Friday the thirteenth. Mad Man
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: was a recent one for me, and I fucking had
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: a ball with that movie. Dude, that movie is so
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: much fun. Yeah, that movie's a ton of fun.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: It's it's really interesting because to look at what I
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: think are three different approaches to the story. Like, dude,
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: the Burning, to me is a very mean movie. It's
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: almost like the first half of that movie's almost like
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: a like a typical drama, and then all of a
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: sudden it turns into a ball to the wall slasher
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: and you have Savini's effects. I mean, the raft scene
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: alone is legendary, you know, And what was so funny
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: when I remember sitting down with my wife and watching
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: The Burning and she was like, man, this is like
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: the same year Savini was doing There's Friday the Thirteenth Effects,
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: and look how much he evolved into the effects from
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: the Burning. Yeah, yeah, it's a huge jump.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: I like the Burning as well. I mean, I'm you know,
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: I'm Friday is still my jam, but Burning is for me.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: I like the Burning better than mad Man. I think
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: they're all great. The stuff I like about the Burning
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: is that, like, I really think it's cool that, like
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: most of it takes place in the day, which I
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: feel like not alan of Slashers do, so I think
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: that was really cool is to have that kind of
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: done in the daytime. I think the cast of characters
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: is a lot more memorable in the Burning. I think
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: they had a good cast of characters uh in there,
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: so so yeah, I mean, I I Friday is still
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: my favorite burning. I love it. I was gonna kick
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: out a Glazer uh in the Burning the Bully or whatever,
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: because they kept talking about how jacked Hee was. I'm like,
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: he wasn't even jacked at all, Like, what what are
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: you gonna do with Glazer? With all those muscles. I'm like,
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: he's not really even they couldn't have found anybody else.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: He's the only character.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: He's the only character that felt like, uh, like a
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: like a movie character to me. Like his introduction underneath
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: of when he's outside of what's his name's cabin, when
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: he comes down in bullies, I'm like, I'm like.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Who the fuck is this guy?
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Like, what's the big tough guy. I'm like, this dude's
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: ugly to tell.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: School with me?
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah that, I mean, come on, dude, even even the scene, Uh,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: it's funny because like they play him so tough, but
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: then he has that very embarrassing moment in the woods
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: you know later on it's like it's the perfect perfect
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: tale end of his story.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: So for you guys, how.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Do I want to word this question? Mad Man? You know, actually, Garret,
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: I'm surprised you're not a big fan of mad Man
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: or just not I am.
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: But if I had to rank the three, it would
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: be my third. Yeah, but I love I love mad Man.
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: I just think out of the three, i'd have to
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: go Friday Burning Madman.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, Christian, what about you?
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: For that ranking of those three? Exactly the same? I mean, listen,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: mad Man's out of focus, Like, what do you want
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: me to do about it? Like, I would actually like
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: to go back to a question you posed earlier. You asked,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: if if The Burning had come out before Friday the
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: third teenth, would it be a different game. The answer
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: is no, it wouldn't be a different game at all,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: because other movies before, like The Driller Killer Tourist Trap
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: came out in seventy nine and they didn't succeed. The
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: difference was paramount, So it would not have made a
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: difference if The Burning came out before Friday the thirteenth.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Paramount made all the difference by taking a movie and
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: putting it out nationwide for the entire world to see.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: That that's what really made Friday the thirteenth successful, along
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: with Sean Cunningham making a great movie. But you could
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: argue that if The Burning had gone a nation wide
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: it probably would have shocked audiences just as much, maybe
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: even a little bit more. But yeah, I just wanted
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: to say, like, I want to make sure that Paramount
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: gets the credit because they they did something no studio
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: had done up to that point was take a small
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: budget slasher film and push it out like a main,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: main event movie, which is remarkable. That's why I love Paramount.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: But Friday the Thirteenth, to me is possibly one of
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: the greatest slasher films of all time. Ten years ago,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I would I would have laughed at myself saying that,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: or anybody that did say that. But with age comes wisdom,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: and I think the original Friday the Thirteenth is. I
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: just got to see it in the theater. Me and
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: my wife went, and it was absolutely amazing. And for
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: a movie to be able to have that much tension
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: without even knowing who the killer is, obviously you do
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: as you've seen it, but you still feel it. You
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: still feel the tension to the entire movie, and it's
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: gloomy the whole time. That's one thing seeing on the
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: big screen. I didn't realize how gloomy of a movie
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: it is. I'd argue that a lot of the DVD
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: releases and blue releases kind of quote unquote fixed the
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: picture on it and brighten it up a little bit.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: But I got to see that. I got to see
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: what was probably the four K that Paramount put out,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: and that movie is There's still things about that movie
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: that are so fascinating to me. But The Burning is very,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: very mean. I love The Burning a lot too, and
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I thank you. Without Tom Savini, that movie's a failure.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but he was the guy
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: for them. There are other guys, but I'm Savini was
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: at the top of his game with that crude blood
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: that he was doing, and they went for it with
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: The Burning. And there's a lot of future celebrities in
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: that film too. The Burning was like I think this
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: first or second screen factory I got when it came out.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I still have it and I have the four K,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: but every time I go to watch that film, I
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: can't help now but go grab my Blu Ray because
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: I'm nostalgic for that Blu Ray now. But Burning is fantastic.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: I think it is a if it's somebody puts it
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: in their top ten Slashers. I would never argue with it,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: mad Man, I would. I wouldn't argue, but I get
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: a chuckle out of it because it is the Little
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Engine that Could. I'll give it that. I love watching
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: mad Man. It's really fun, but it's the Little Engine
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: that Could. I mean, it's it's done. I mean I
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: understand that they probably weren't looking at dailies. But I
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: mean there's stuff about that movie that's just awkward, like
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: that weird jacuzzi dancing like it's just But I'll tell
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: you what, dude, there's a moment in The mad Man
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: that is fantastic. I'm sure you guys remember where it's
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: like in the beginning of the film where the dude's
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: looking up in the tree and that big sucker is
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: in the tree, you know. Yeah, So it's you can't
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: really hate on mad Man too much because it's like
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: you're making fun of a super cheap indie film at
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: the same time, but you're asking me to compare it
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: to Friday the thirteenth of the Burning. So that's it.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: That's my that's my that's how I would rank them.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the the jacuzzie, I don't even know what that was.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: That a sauna, Like what was that the thing were
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: I don't even know what that was?
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: Like no, like yeah, like what they call like I guess.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Yeah, mad Man was a lot of fun.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: And then I'll never forget the shock. You know, it's funny.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: I as many times as I've watched Dawn of the
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Dead right clearly, like flew favorite of mine. As many
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: times as I've sat down and I've watched on the Dead,
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: I put on mad Man and I get about, you know,
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: fifteen minutes in and I had a moment where I'm
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: sitting on my couch and I'm like, is that fucking
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Galen Ross. I didn't even like realize it was her,
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: which is so funny to me, Like I was like, God,
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: what kind of fan am I? I didn't even recognize her.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: She's beautiful and mad Man, by the way, I just
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: want to I just want.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: To say, you know, it's funny about Madman. That's kind
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: of different than than this. And I have to give
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: Daniel from Goblin Channel's kind of on this when he said,
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: what are we talked about some slasher movies on on
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: my shows? He said, it's you know, it's one of
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: those camp slasher movies where like all the characters are
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: kind of just like regular nice people, Like they don't
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: there's not the stereotypical bunch like you get it Friday
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: thirteenth or you know, in the Burning or anything like that.
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: There's no like bully or anything like that, but just
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: like kind of regular people enjoying their time and then
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: like that opening scene to me is still you know,
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: around the campfire where they're kind of setting everything up
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: telling you the story, but they're doing it more of
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: a song, Like I think that's a really really cool
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: way to kind of set it up and get that
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: whole like kind of campfire vine like we're doing right now.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and well, and the fact that it's like, you know,
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: the the veteran of the group. It's like the old
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: man who's been out here for long and he's telling
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: the story and the way he tells it just feels
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: so authentic and real. And then when it starts coming
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: to life and he's like, oh shit, I woke him up,
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: Like he kind of realizes at the end what's going on.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: That movie just had a certain charm that I like,
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: but it did feel I remember getting a good chunk
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: through it and I was like, this does feel kind
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: of made for TV in comparison to you know, Friday
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: the thirteenth and the burning, especially the burning. What's so
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: crazy to me is we watched I know, we watched
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: that movie a bunch leading up to the episode, and
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: no matter how many times you watched it, that raft
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: scene was so impactful to me every single time. And
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Christian's right that movie lives and dies on Savigni's effects
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: and also too, like it's all about the marriage between
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: your makeup effects artists. You're a practical effects artist and
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: your director. You have to know how to shoot the effects,
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: how to make them look great. And that scene is
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: flawless from the build up of them getting closer and
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: closer to the canoe and it's quiet and the camera
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: gets a little shaky, like you can feel some things up,
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: and then you have the shot from underneath the cropsy
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: coming up with the silhouette, and then it even adds
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: into little moments where kind of like he misses and said,
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: you know, he nails the raft and.
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: Savini talked about that and said he wanted that because
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: he wants to, you know, he wants to give the
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: idea that these are real, like these are really these
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: damage right, So every time they missed and it took
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: a chunk out of the boat, and then the next
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: time he swings it, it hit chops someone's fingers off. It's like, oh, yeah, okay,
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: this this is the real deal. Which it's those little
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: things that I feel like makes such a big deal,
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: Like the fact that he thought of that, and it
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: wasn't just yeah, he's gonna slice everybody up. He was like, no,
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: he's gonna miss a couple of times. We get the
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: effect that these are, you know, dangerous shears, and you
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: gotta appreciate that, you know.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: From someone like yeah, I mean that whole scene, the
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: fingers coming off. I've told this story before, but when
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: I was younger, I used to frequent Arrow in the
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Head that was kind of like.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: The Joe Blow website. Yeah, yeah, and they.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: Had something called Kill of the Day where they had
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: like these little wave video files that you could watch,
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: you know, the Kill of the Day they picked on
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: and the raft scene was on one of them. That
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: was the first time I'd ever seen the The arm
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: scene from Tenebrae was was on that as well, and
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: I remember I never knew the movies, but eventually I
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: watched them and I was like, oh shit, I remember.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: So that raft scene stays stays alive in my head
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: still this day. As impactful as.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: That is, we do need a sequel to that, And
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I don't think that they can't still do it if
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: they want, if if people wanted it, you know, it's
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you who was cropsy, So throw any
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: jackass in the costume, you know. I mean, it's like
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: you can get anybody to do it.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: Dude, you could do the sequel and it can be
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: the poor uh doctor in training from the beginning, you
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: know what I mean.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: I think it'll get remade if anything, maybe like a
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: shutter will remake it if they can, because a lot
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: of those movies back then, man, there were indie movies.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: And that's why a lot some movies they don't come
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: back into print because like like some family owns it,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: they don't even want to be bothered to talk about it.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. I don't know. I don't remember
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: if Burning was like av Co Embassy or like whatever
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: who put it out, whatever proof production house it was
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: that did it or anything. But it could be one
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: of those. No, that's not true, Garrett, you probably remember
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: just as well as I do. I think the Burning
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: is under like MGM or something. I think they have
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: an MGM, so that yeah, it's owned under it's under
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: some big company.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: Oh it's Mirramac, is it now? Yeah, it says as
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: of now production company became Mirramac.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because the scenes produced it. Yeah, the Weinsteins produced it.
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: This was I think the first, the first win Stein
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: produced horror film.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I do remember. I think I have it. Yeah,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: I do have a Burning DVD where it's got the
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: MGM on it. So my point still remains. I think, uh,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: it never got remade. You know, April Fools they got
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: a remake, but Burning didn't get a remake. And I
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: like that remake too, by the way, But you know
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: what I mean.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: What Steve, do you remember what Tony Mayleem said in
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: the commentary about the Burning sequel. I think he said
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: they had thought about it, but just nobody called up money, right.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: It was that, And I don't think he had any
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: interest in potentially doing it himself. I think he was
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: just kind of a one and done situation with the
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: first Burning. After that, I'm pretty sure he wanted to
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: pursue other projects, you know, going forward.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, He's like, I can't wait for one day till
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: I can direct nine episodes of nine to one one.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Like That's That's where I'm headed, you know, That's I.
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: Would love for them to build out the mythos though,
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: because I feel like, I mean, you really could try
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: to like carve out you know, cropsies myth thoughs if
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: they were to ever do like, uh, you know, spiritual
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: sequel to the burning at some point.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I feel like there's a lot of
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: potential there. You can always just have more kids come
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: up to the camp. He gets awakened, even though he's
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: even more burned and crispy than he was before. You
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: can make it. You could make it, uh like spiritual,
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: like when you know, he comes back to life when
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: kids show up at the camp. You know anything, dude,
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: Just what are gonna say in.
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: The hospital, Like he looks like something when he say
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: like a big mac.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: No, what does he say? Yeah, he did say something funny.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: I can't remember what it was.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: I just love you, Like, if you're gonna work here, man,
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: you gotta see this, like this is a scary shit.
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: This is Yeah.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: And my favorite part is it's like you have the
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: establishing shot of the hospital where it zooms in on
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: the hospital, and then after that scene, it says like
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: five years later and it's the same shot. It just
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: goes in reverse. It pulls out from the hospital. Like
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: so I think, like when I was looking at the
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: list that we made. I think really the next step
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: for campground slashers comes in one that's that's in heavy
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: conversation now thanks to the physical media community. But I
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: think it kind of gets shaken up with sleep Away
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Camp Yeah, which which comes in and just kind of
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Christian what are you thinking.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Well, it's not a it's not a campground movie at all.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: But let the record show that one of the best
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: opening scene campground type intros to any movie is the fog.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, twelve o'clock, that old man. I love that.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a they're on the beach but they
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: are fire. I love that scene. I just wanted to
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to throw that out there because I
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: don't know I would forget if I don't say it.
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: Later.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: Well, it's funny because I thought about that, and I
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: thought about mad Man, Like when we were talking about
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: mad Man, I was gonna bring up the fog because
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: it's sort of the same. I love that.
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: Moment in the fog.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: So that's probably my favorite speech, oh for sure.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, sleep Away Cam. I remember, I hadn't.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: I can't remember the first time I saw it. I
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: think I remember seeing the ending first before I saw
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: the rest of the movie. And you know, we all
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: know the shot I'm talking about. I think I saw
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: that before my movie. Yeah, it's uh, you know, it's
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: the screaming, the screaming Wiener scene. I don't know if
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: you remember that.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: They were screaming.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, not screaming, that's right, it was just
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: mouth open.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: No. My point is I'm saying I was looking at
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: the penus older, Oh for sure.
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, speaking of that, you guys have is there any
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: more Wieners in that bag over there?
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: But now you want a Wiener and I talk. Yeah,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: I remember seeing that ending. I can't remember how, though.
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: I bet I know how you saw it. I bet
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: I bet you probably saw. Did you see like the
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: Bravo Top one hundred Scariest Movie Moments documentary?
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: That's probably how.
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: Because that's, like I remember, that's where a lot of
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: people like I learned a lot about certain movies on
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: that thing. I didn't know if that's weird because they
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: didn't talk about that ending and in that in that
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: countdown for sure, And I can just remember all the
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: talking heads talking about it and how crazy it was.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: I saw it for the first time on BHS. I
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: rented it from the store, and that shocked the ship
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: out of me. I had I I had no idea
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: it was coming, you know, like I didn't hear about
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: it before. My uncle never told me about it. But
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: I've watched it. It was like, holy shit. And then
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: Imber just telling my brother to watch it, and he
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: came out and I'll never forget coming out of his
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: bedroom and he looked at me and he goes, that
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: was weird. I was like, it was kind of weird, dude,
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: but yeah, I was. And man, I actually made me
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: fall in love with it even more with with an
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: ending like that, because it was so fucking bat shit.
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: I've never seen something like this before. It's freaky as hell.
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: I love this Dame movie, like and and ever since,
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: I've just been a huge fan of the movie, even
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: though you know, watching it now, it's like it was.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: It was a risky movie. Not just that ending, but
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: like a lot of the dialogue and stuff like m
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: m the guy's talking about the pal these like it's
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: insane to even think, like, you know, some of the
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: shit that it was okay to talk about that, you
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: know why.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: It's yeah, man, it was a different It was a
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: different time, and it's it's funny now looking at not
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: to bring in this direction, but like at a culture
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: that wants to go back to these movies and kind
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: of like remove that stuff, you know, for potential like
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: future whatever, reasons for future offenses or whatever. And it's
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: like it's part of the like I don't know, you know,
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: it's kind of like you know, when I was a kid,
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: and you know, we had certain words that we would
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: You're like even like even still this day, I find
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: my stuff throwing retard around and it's not out of
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: any sort of you know, liked yeah, like I dude,
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: it's never out of any offense or anything. So sometimes
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: you hear this old, this old dialogue and it's still
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: like hilarious to me. And I can't understand people who
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: want to go back or say yeah.
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: I get telling his face. He's like, yeah, I say
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: it to all the time, dude.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: I find myself, Yeah, it's not even a conscious thought, dude,
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: like I will. I'll be with my wife and I'll
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: be like, what a fucking retard And she's like why really,
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: I'm like Michael.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Scott put this perfectly. You guys, remember the quote I
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: don't use retard to offend people. I use the word
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: to talk about my friends when they're acting retarded.
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: There was an article that came out like probably like
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: two months ago. I think I might even send it
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: to Christian, I don't know. I sent it around to
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: a couple people were it was like the headline of
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: the article said, the word retarded is seems to be
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: making a comeback in two thousand and five. How do
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: we stop this? And I'm like, who wrote this? And
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: like where are they getting their information from?
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: Like there's different. Look, there's categories, right, you could do
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: something that's dumb and I'll call you dumb. You could
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: do something stupid and I'll say you're stupid, and then
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: you can do something regarded and you're gonna get called that.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: So you know, there's categories to it, right, not as it.
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: Wasn't like I guess I don't even know why it
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: was offensive because we took it out of context, because
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: I mean it was you know, they used to call
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: the what is it the something of retardation Like that
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: was the name of like the organization, right, Like it
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: wasn't like we just but I don't know if it
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: was it was just getting thrown around and like too
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: many different categories, it didn't belong.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: I have no idea, but listen, dude, I've had this
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: argument and I lose every time. I don't know no
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: way of winning with people, you know, But yeah, sleep
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Away Camp what? And there's something about there's something about
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: these movies that just feels so like, uh yeah, just
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: fuck it, just go, let's do it whatever, righte and
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: on to go Christian for you? Where do sleep Away
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: Camp sit in in the pantheon of this subgenre?
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: So?
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I remember watching the first one, probably around twenty fourteen
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: or fifteen, and I thought it was fine. I didn't
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: really love it, and I fell in love with two
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: and three. But around twenty sometime around like twenty fifteen, sixteen,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: maybe even seventeen or something, TV started getting reasonable, really
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: really priced well, and I was able to get my
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: first big screen and the first movie I watched on
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: my and now people probably wouldn't consider this a big screen,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: but I got my first fifty five inch TV. I
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: was used to having thirty thirty inch thirty two inches,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: and I remember watching the original Sleepway Camp on my
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: big screen TV with the lights off, and I was like, Wow,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: this movie is like, this movie's actually pretty gorgeous, and
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it then. Now it might be actually
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: my favorite Sleepway Camp film. It is really weird and
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: quite frankly hysterical. The funny thing is the director truly
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: got lucky because he tried to do it again in
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: two thousand and three and it did not work. The
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: crazy just throw shit at the wall, say random shit
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: throughout the entire movie. It didn't. It didn't stick the
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: way the original did. But no, I never I when
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: I first watched it, I don't remember if I had
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: seen the ending or not. I quite frankly I can't remember.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: But I mean, what's not to love about it? It's pretty,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: it's pretty out there, and to me, the ending's hysterical. Now,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I love it. I love it. I think
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: it is a classic. I don't think it's overrated or
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: anything like that. I think it it. What's the replacement
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: for Sleepway Camp? Tell me, like, what what do you
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: replace sleeplay Camp with? What do you say? I'd rather
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: watch the Sleepway Camp instead of what like? Because it's
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: not like I don't really look at it just as
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: a summer camp movie. It's Sleepway Camp. I mean it's
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: you got Nick's, you got boody shorts on men the
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: entire time, Like that's not really a replacement for it,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: so you gotta give credit there. So I love it now.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: It's my Now, I think it's my favorite out of
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: the four, and I will count the four even though
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of people don't count return to Sleepway Camp.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: So I'm a big, big fan. I think I think
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: it's a must own, gotta have it if you don't
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: have to watch it every year, but watch it every
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: other year. I guess.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: I love showing it to people for the first time,
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: Like I remember showing it to my wife and just
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: being like here comes like maybe like are you looking,
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: are you watching? You're gonna hurry up? They attention and
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: just knowing the whole time. You know, yeah, and you
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: know what it's.
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: They do a good job with like not making it
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: so obvious either, Like I mean, I know the beginning,
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: you could kind of figure it out now that you
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: know what's going on, but I feel like the beginning
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: is so zany that like you're kind of it kind
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: of goes over your head a little bit, like what
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: the hell is going on here? Where the kid's heads
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: wrapped up or whatever, you know, like and the mom's
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: talking to them and all that stuff, and then you
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: just see Angelo and you just like, I don't remember
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: when I saw this the first time, I ever thought
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: in my head like, oh I think that to be
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: a boy in there. I mean, like I'd never know.
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: So they kept they kept it till the end and
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: then it so it was a shocking thing. It wasn't
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: like there was things throughout the movie that you're like, oh, yeah,
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: I could have I called it, you.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: Know, yeah, well the beginning is so like you said,
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: so zany with the boat scene. I never I don't think.
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: I don't.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: I think I might have seen the movie a couple
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: of times knowing the ending before I even started paying
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: attention to that at the beginning. I don't see what
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: about you? Did you catch up on that like right away?
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: No, because I remember the first watch that I had
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: of that movie. I mean I had no clue like
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: that ending was coming up. I think the first go around,
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of details. I feel like if you're
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: not like closely watching, you most likely miss so then
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: when you go back and you watch it on rewatch,
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of little things that you pick up. Now.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: I don't think that there's anything really leading up to
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: it that I would have thought like that ending would
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: have been what you get. But yeah, I don't know. Overall,
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: it's it's a it's a very like one of a kind.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: Maybe, yeah, yeah, very much so. Garrett. By the way,
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: that wiener you asked for earlier is burning. You might
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: want to pull that out just yet. I don't forget
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: it's a little cropty crop. Yeah, I mean, sleep away cam, dude.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: I'm very excited to revisit two and three. I have
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: a a mod from a sloppy second sales of two
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: and three, like on one disc that I bought probably
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: about a year ago just to kind of have a collection.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: So I'm excited to revisit those I remember I remember
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: liking them as much. I think they're just so cruel,
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: you know that, like you have to have fun with them,
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Like I never in my life thought I would see
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: a outhouse kill.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like the.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: Sequel gives you and there's it just gets so out
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: of control in those later ones. Yeah, this is this
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: is what I always enjoyed. And you know, the next
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: two we had on the list. We were going to
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: kind of bring up a discussion, but Christian kind of
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: already answered the question anyway, because we were gonna talk
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: about Cabin Fever and if you guys consider that into
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: this sub genre or is that a different thing all
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: in itself.
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: You know, I think it fit. It's interesting that you
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: say that because it's not technically a summer camp. But
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: when you start looking at some of the Friday the
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: Thirteenth sequel, some of them, I think even like two
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: is it two or three? Three? You know, it's not
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: necessarily like these kids at are camp either, Right, I
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: think it does kind of fit. It's got the campfire,
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: it's gonna cabin I mean there, it definitely does fit
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: in this realm somewhere for sure. And I don't know
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: if we're all in agreement, but man, I think Cabin
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: Feaver was a movie that was very needed at the
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: time it came out, like just three that it was
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: just out bonkers, gory, cool story. Like people give Cabin
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: Fever shit and I'm just like, I don't get it.
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's gonna a little bit of
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: every think. Sure, there's some weird shit like Pancakes that
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: kind of really still don't make sense. But I mean
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: it's kind of the charm of the movie is that
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: it was just so out there, but the gore and
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: the story itself, I mean, it's just so top notch
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: that I think it just all kind of works.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Well, we were kind of considering this and
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: then you know, same side of the coin we were
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: thinking about like evil Dead.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know, two out of three eight bad,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: you got the Woods, you got the Cavin. Yeah, you know,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Ac said it best.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: Hey we get we get there, you know, because Cavin Fever.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: To me, like I just watched it maybe a month ago,
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: and I was like, fuck, dude, not only is this
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: hold up, but like I felt like I picked the
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: perfect time to throw it on. I just had a
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: lot of fun with it. I definitely think like, yeah,
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: Pancakes is a little much. Still, my favorite of the
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: movie is the end of the beginning of the end
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: credits with the weird string band outside like that you know,
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: Deliverance style band that plays over you know, but in a.
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: Lot of Last House and the Left music that carried
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: over to this movie, which I always appreciated as well.
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: It's like a similar some of the same songs from
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: Last House and the Left show up in this movie,
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: which I always kind of thought was one.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what's funny because I was watching Oh No, I
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: was listening to a podcast with Eli Roth, and he
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: was talking about looking back on cap'n Fever how much
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: he without even realizing it, kind of wore his influences
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: on his sleeve, like he did the Texas change on
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: MASCAR shot coming up to the House, and he did
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: so much stuff as a still a young filmmaker. That
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: was what he saw and what he loved, and he's
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: like now looking back. You know, I didn't realize at
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: the time that I was pretty much just copying everything
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: I had known from the movies that I love.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: But take that as you will. As Christian scenes. I
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: love Eli get to come one brother. You know, I
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: don't know, bro.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: Eli, it's the same guy who loves Adible Holocaust and
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: then fucking made The Green Inferno.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's like, dude, you got you can't say
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: that he ain't a real horror fan, that's for sure.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: I Mean I see pictures of him at conventions and
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: the dudes got fucking he's wearing like like New York
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Ripper shirts and you know, all kinds of you know, Yeah,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: dude's got sick taste, that's for sure. He he was
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: on Howard Stern a couple of years ago and I
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: was listening to him, and he's talked about being an
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: intern on private parts on Howard's movie writing Cabin Fever.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: I was like, wait a minute, Cabin Fever came out
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: like a decade later, but he was writing the film
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: in the nineties. That's incredible, you know. And he also
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: said that Cabin Fever made almost fifty million dollars on DVD.
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, this was when physical media was like if
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: you missed a the box office, you could look forward
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: to what it would do on physical media. Yep, back
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: back in those days. I just remember, I think with
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: Cavin Fever, I remember my parents being or it was
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: my mom mostly like hearing her talk about the impact
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: these movies had. Like I remember hearing a radio ad
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: for Cabin Fever. This was two thousand and end of
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: twousand and two going into two thousand and three, and
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: I remember hearing I think my parents used.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: To listen to for us.
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: It was ninety three three WMMR Rocks was the station,
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: and that was like my parents go to and they
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: would play I remember the Cavin Fever radio ad, and
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: I remember my mom being like, oh, yeah, if you
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: guys like talking to other parents, like, have you guys
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: heard about how sick this movie is. There's a scene
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: where she's shaving her leg her legs off, you know,
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: or like when Saul came out, my mom's like people
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: are throwing up in the theaters and you know this
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: or that, and I just I miss that.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Man, I'm so nostalgic for those days.
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: You know, let's tell you and hear about the time
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: when they came out.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was like, you know, I don't have
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: besides my wife, I don't have anybody in my immediate.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Life that would be like, yo, did you hear about this?
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: Unless it's like in the group chat on Instagram, which
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: has a different effect, you know. And I think my mom,
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: without even realizing it, hyped up so many movies for
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: me that I eventually saw and I was like, oh,
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: this ain't shit, like you know, but yeah.
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: That was like you said, it's it's it's a lost
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: nostalgia because with social media now, it's like, you know,
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: the movie comes out and two days before people are
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: writing like full on reviews of the thing or whatever.
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: So you don't get like that weird lore of like
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: I heard that this you know movie was the grossest
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: thing I heard, like with social media like that, that
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: kind of like mystique is gone. I feel like now
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: you've got to kind of try to avoid, you know,
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: spoilers all the time. You need to like wait a
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: day to see the damn movie. Where I think back
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: then it was like you said you were being built
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: up for something just out of hearsay, you know, and
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: that kind of is is almost magical to a kid.
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: You know, you walk into that theater and you're like,
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: I don't know what to expect here or now. It's
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: like sometimes you if you're not careful, you walk into
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: a theater and be like I know everything that's gonna happen, right,
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: you know. Even with some of these trailers, it's like
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: sometimes you feel like you know the movie before even
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: though you watch.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: That's why I stopped watching them.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah you can't, you can't. I that's I was just
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: thinking that today about Draft World Rebirth. I was like,
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: I shouldn't have watch those trailers. No, I couldn't.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say if there's anybody here that
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: hasn't seen it, but yeah, stop watching trailers if you
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: already know if you're gonna go see a movie or not,
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: just don't watch the trailers. Yeah, yeah, I.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: It's funny because a couple other movies recent camp slashers
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: that come to mind on one hand, as Hell the
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: Summer that came out this year, and I don't know
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: if any of you guys have seen that.
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: I have not seen it yet, no.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: Modern camp slasher, but still has technology involved. You know,
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: kids are on cell phones and all that stuff, and
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: I kind of I I I contrast that to Fear
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: Street Part two from a few years ago, which was
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: the campground slasher of that trilogy, where it actually took
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: place in a time where they're wearing no cell phones.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: There was none of this stuff, and it felt so
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: much more genuine to me. And I don't know if
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: any of you guys are fans of those Fear Street movies.
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: I like them. I think that they're good. They're good
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: to like, they're good for what they are. I mean,
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: I'm not I don't. It's not one that I'm going
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: crazy over, but I think for it being geared towards
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: maybe not kids, but maybe teenagers getting into the genre,
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: I think it works perfectly fine. I mean, we had
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: a lot of those, you know, growing up on it,
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: like those Gateway type movies. But I don't know if
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: you guys saw it, but I would I'll throw out there.
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys are probably gonna be
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: talk about it, but there's a movie, Marshmallow.
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: That's out that I heard you mention that one.
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: Because yeah, like we we interviewed the director and we
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: saw it on a early screening at Panicfest and it
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: just hit vod now and it's cool. Man, it's a
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: it's a it's a camp slasher movie, but there's there's
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: certain elements of it that they kind of add that's
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: different than what we used to and uh, it's definitely
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: want to check out for sure. If you guys haven't
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: seen it, I think it's streaming down.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: Okay, Marshmallow, what a.
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: Very Because of Hell of a Summer. It came out
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: around the same time. It had a limited theater run,
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: and it could kind of just overtaken by Hell of
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: the Summer because it was like the same week, maybe
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: one week later or something like that. So everybody was
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: talking about Hell of the Summer, and I think this
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: was just kind of lost to the shovel.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: Okay, so for anybody listening, Yeah, it's on Prime right
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: now for four ninety nine.
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: Damn yes, I'll check it out.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: Damn this looks cool. I love I always love going
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: down on IMDb at the reviews because it's like the
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: first review is like, this is a fucking masterpiece. In
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: the second review is like spec trash. Oh yeah, you know.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: In the midst of all this, I think one of
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: my favorites that Steve kept reminding me to talk about
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: because I kind of kept forgetting it was a campground slasher.
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: But I'm really excited too with you guys is in
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: a Violent Nature, which I don't know. How are you
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: guys on that movie? Like, have you?
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: It's very polarizing, isn't it.
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like that's such an interesting conversation to have.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: You know that movie in.
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: General, I am a picky son of a bitch dude.
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: I loved it, thought, yeah, I loved it, and then
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: I get why people did it. But I'm like, I
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: just thought it was so unique. I don't know if
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: people would just the they were bored of it. It
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: was slow, but I mean I kind of appreciate that
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: kind of movie, Like I like to kind of feel
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: like I'm involved and like, you know, really know what's
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: going on, and just half the time it's moving so fast.
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: I'm like, look what's going on there? Yeah, I like
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: that idea, but I get it a lot. I feel
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: like I'm almost in the minority that I that I
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: really put it over.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know what you guys think about it, though, Christian,
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: how are you on the nature?
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: There are a few things I would have changed, but
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: other than that, I was absolutely in love with it.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: I thought it was so creepy to not have music.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Hear the rustling of the grass and the leaves as
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: he's walking. Unbelievable. I don't want a sequel, but they're
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: doing it and I'll watch it. But I love the
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: ending too. It was like listening to like a song
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: where the verse happens, but there's no chorus, and then
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: you're left feeling a certain type of way. I think
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: some people get conflated with the way they feel. I
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: didn't get what I wanted. Nothing happened, but it made
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: you feel something. Just because it didn't make you feel good,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that it doesn't merit giving you a
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: certain type of feeling. I love the ending of the film,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: so I'm a really big fan. My only issue with
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: it is I thought it felt so serious, which I love.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: It's refreshing now because everything's kind of got to be silly.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: That I thought some of the kills as gory as
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: they were that hatchet style. I would have backed some
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: of those off and made them just more straightforward. But
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: other than that, I was pretty much.
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: In love with it. Yeah.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: I think one of the issues now is living in
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: a post and terrifier world, you know, that's all change
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: where everybody has to feel the need to really go
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: into the excess and do something unique. And I mean,
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: for me, my favorite kill of Nevine the nature is
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: the one with the tree cutter or the tree splitter.
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: Who the wood splitter.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's something I wouldn't change, by the way,
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: because that was it was what it was. It wasn't
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: shoving your hand through the stomach and Victor Crowley and
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: the body like there's a time and place for that.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: I didn't think. I didn't think this was the place
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: for the Clearly people liked it, but for me, it
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: was so serious in tone, like the moment where he
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: goes under the water and literally best scene of the movie.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: First off, that scenery was gorgeous. When you see that
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: open shot of the woods against stunning. I was mesmerized
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: when he went under the water.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know, you know, every every Friday the
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: Thirteenth movie you've seen, you think, like, how do you
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: get from Nashtide to that side?
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I'm thinking to myself, somebody's a fan of
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: the Friday the Thirteenth game. Yeah, yeah, because I love it.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: The best scene in the movie to me.
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that guys hit the nail on the head though
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: with the terrifier thing. Because I didn't see violent nature
• 59:25
  Speaker 5: in theaters, I know, I think I didn't know. Yeah,
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: so I I didn't see it, but I try to
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: stay away from it.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: I knew like it had like that video game look,
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: it looked just like Jason walking around. I knew all that,
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: But the only thing I ever heard about it was
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: like this crazy kill that we were gonna get, and
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: that's all anybody talked about. So, like you said, you know,
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: being like that post terrifier. It's like, that's what everybody
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: cares about. And I actually like, like Christian said, is
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: I could have even done without that kill, and I would
• 59:54
  Speaker 5: have been just as happy as I was. Like it
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: didn't really, that didn't change a thing for me. Like
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: I saw it and I was kind of like, oh,
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: this was this was all the hype, Like what about
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: everything else I just watched before this, And I think,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: like you said, that's what people are waiting. And I
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: think because that this gave them that but didn't give
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: him more of that, I think maybe people were a
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 5: little bit.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it screams some guy in a suit saying, we
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: gotta make the kills crazy, like you know, to the director.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: Like I'd love to hear the director talk about that,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: like if he wanted that or not.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: It doesn't change it. If he walks up to her
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: and just beats her head into the ground, push her
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: off the cliff.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: There's a cliff, Push the bitch down a cliff, just go.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: I think you know, one thing, one thing that I
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: always talk about is I love the technical aspects of filmmaking.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: You know, I love to give me things are too
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: fast now, I mean, everybody wants everything to happen fast,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: slow things down, like force me to sit through and
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: just watch a guy walking through the woods. I'm I'm
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: one hundred percent okay with that. I don't think most
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: audiences are and into violent nature. I think shines in
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: all of those moments where it's just quiet, and then
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: you have the great moment when he picks up the
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: keys and it has a little car on the keys,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: and he sits behind the tree and he's just kind
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: of playing with the car.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to see his face. I didn't like it.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: I did not want to see the face. The back
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: of the head was amazing. I didn't want to see
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: the front of the face. That's another thing I was
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: gonna mention that would take that out. The mask was cool,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: but I would have preferred to just see the back
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: of his head the whole movie.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there, dude, there's so much about that. I mean,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: even like the wood splitting scene. I remember the first
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: time I watched this was actually I was at work.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: I was doing something at a different store. I was
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: on break. I was like, let me put this on
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: because it was on something that I had on my phone.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: I was like, let me start watching this, and I
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: stopped watching it, like I was watching it like this,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: you know, a whole bit, and I'm like, I'm gonna
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: pick this up at home, and I go home and
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: I put it on, and I remember getting to the
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: wood splitting scene and clearly, like you know, the the
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: sheriff climbs over him and you're like okay, and then
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: he knocks him down. I'm like okay, and then he
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: drags him into that shed and then you don't see
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: you just hear the starting of the the motor and
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: then it brings them in and you just have that
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: one shot of him. You see him test it. You know,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: he pushes it forward and it's slow. The thing is,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: you know those wood splitters, if you ever use them,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: they're not fast, you know, they just have a lot
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: of power behind them.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: When he couldn't move either too in that scene, right, yeah.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: Because he's got a broken spine. Right, I think that's
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: pretty much what so yeah, and then you know what's
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: gonna happen when you see it. But then he puts
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: the arm in and it's kind of like the test run.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: You're like, oh, the arm came up, Okay, it works.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: And then he puts the I think he does he
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: put the other arm in or does he do the
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: arm and then he does his head? I forget.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: I got to watch it again. It wasn't exaggerated. That's
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: why I like it. He's putting his body through a
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: damn machine that's going to destroy him, you know, That's
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: why it worked for me.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: Did you guys think and I know Steve, I think
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: we talked about it a couple of times, did you
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: guys see the movie as a because a lot of
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: the word around it was like, oh, this is a
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: dissection of the genre. And I didn't really see it
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: that way more than I saw it as like a
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: love letter, you know, I would think.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: A love letter of the jump to a slasher, for sure.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: I could see it more that way. And now my
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: biggest concern now is anybody know is like are they
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 5: going to try to just mimic the same style for
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: the sequel or are they going to take that character
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: and now almost make it like Hatchet or terrify or
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: esk and like change the whole way that this thing
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: is shot. Like they're just gonna be like, Okay, this work,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: but like we're gonna do it all different. Now, and
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: I think like even I could be you know, it
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: wasn't the same. But like when you look at Laid
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 5: to Rest and then Chrome Skull, like very different. Same
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 5: with Hatchet and Hatchet two. Very different, i'd think in tone.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: But I don't know. Do you think that they keep
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: this gimmick or do you think that this guy now
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: they're just gonna make him in a straight movie, brutal movie.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: I think it's the same gimmick, but all the walking
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: is like times too like sped up, like he's like and.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: No, I don't know what they're gonna do.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's a runner because.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: It probably like, oh, you know, what did people not
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: like about this? You know, like maybe we'll change it
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 5: and make it different, Like I don't know, like does
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: it work again? That's what I don't know.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: Well, that was the beauty of it. How many times
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: in horror can somebody say, hey, I'm about to give
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: you a movie of something that you've never seen before.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: Now we've seen it, so.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: Now is it like do you think it'll to continue it?
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: It might just kind of dilute it a little bit
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: as a whole, or they have to change the way
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 5: this thing is shot. And make this guy, just make
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: his character bigger, and just have the movie different now
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 5: and not that same. What is the third person? You'd say,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: third person?
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: Well, I think I mean the movie it's it's interesting
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: because the ending, you know, when he gets the necklace back,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: I think that's the end of the character. And then
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: you have the whole scene in the car where she's found,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: and you know, it has this very ominous moment where
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: she's staring in the woods and you don't know if
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: anything's gonna come out, or if anything's in there, or
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: what happened to me.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: I thought like, oh, you got his necklace back.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: He's done. Like he can just go right back to
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: to rest now. So I don't know how you can.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: What's it He's gonna like pick up the necklace in
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: the sequel, it's gonna start with that, and he realizes like,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: that's not it.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: It's a fake, so he's gotta keep going. Maybe maybe
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if they've talked about
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: the story about this at all whatsoever, But somebody put
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: that pole on top of me with that necklace. Maybe
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: that's the story they tell. Hmmm, I don't know.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: Would be a cool angle.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: Basically a prequel, I guess, but I think you damned
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: if you do, damned if you don't. I feel the same.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: I'm a gigantic Hellhouse fan, gigantic Hellhouse fan. I'll go
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: to bat for Hellhouse, and I'm excited for this new one.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: But it's no longer a found footage movie, and part
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: of me feels like.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 5: The guy.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not saying that director feels this way,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: but part of me says, well, I can't do the
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: found footage no more, I can't no more gimmicks. But
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: my thing is, no, I don't look at found footage
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: as a gimmick. That's what made That's what makes hell
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: House hell House. So I'm nervous about that too. So
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: I guess at the end of the day, I would
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: be a hypocrite if I say, do the movie differently.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: But it's a different circumstances. It's apples and pomegranates, because
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: this is a movie where you've you've done a film
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: a completely different style than ever before, and now it's
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: not unique in a sense because it's happened. It's happened.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. I just would leave it alone.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: I know that sounds shitty because I love sequels, but
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: this is a different circumstance. I don't know. I'll say it,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: I'll judge it, and I'll give my opinion on what
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: I see when it happened.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: To you, though, I would probably leave this a one
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: and done if I had a choice. But I also
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: am intrigued by the fact that they are like, yeah,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 5: we're gonna go more with this, and I'm curious to
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: see where they go with it. But I think if
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: it was up to me, I would have said this
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: is it. It was something different if the story was duld.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well it's funny because you talk about our
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: hell House and you know, to me, I think Hell
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: House four was the best of the bunch. I don't
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: know how you feel in that, but I loved ogs origins. Yeah,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: I love Origins, and I felt like I was like, man,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: this they just keep I was like, this is the
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: best it's done. Like, if you can really nail it
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: like this again, you can keep this style and keep rolling.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: I would not shut the hell up about that movie
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: when it came out. It was to me it was
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: the best horror film of twenty twenty three, and people
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: laugh when I say that, but I always say, watch it.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: It scared the shit out of.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: It, dude, and that movie has That movie is better
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: shot as a found footage film than most of the
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: horror movies are non found footage shot. The lighting is beautiful,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: the Carmichael Manner setting is gorgeous, the movie is lit wonderfully. Like,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: it's so effective and it's so well done. I don't
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: know how you could be like, Okay, we've reached the
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: end of our rope with that.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: I just don't know how.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 5: I haven't checked out orts yet.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: It's it's fantastic. It's truly suspenseful. You know, I love it.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: Did you get I don't know if you got that
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: Umbrella box set, but I.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't got that far yet. But you know,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 5: I will say those found footage movies. I don't know
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: if it was The Blair Witch or whatever, but they
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: hundred percent of movies that made me feel uneasy. Still,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: all of it, I know, And that's probably why I
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: haven't buried through all those hell hous yet, because I'm like,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: it's this is a task for me to do this list,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 5: Like I'm not gonna have fun I'm gonna be freaked.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: Out though people that love found footage, I can I
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: click with them because that tells me and I know
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: Garrett's a big wrestling fan. A lot of them want
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: to believe when they watch Out.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: I think that's what does. It feels so real to
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: me that it's almost like it's an uncomfortable watch. And
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: even though I love it like Blair Witch, I mean
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 5: I couldn't stop thinking about that movie when I saw
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: it in the theaters for weeks. Yes, I just never
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: and even Paranormal Activity. I can remember seeing that for
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: the first time coming home and being a little bit like,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: I don't we left. Yeah, like I saw you know
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 5: it gets it hits me hard and I and it
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: sometimes becomes a tough watch. It's like I want to
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: watch them at the same time, like it's gonna be
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 5: a rough couple of hours.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: But I really no bullshit. I think you'll dig origins.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: It's truly scary, truly scary.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: I love it, and it's interesting to be because it's
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: so clean because they're using modern cameras, so it's like
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: it's not you know, you watch like VHS where they're
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: trying to make it look older and stuff. And when
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: when I remember going out with my wife was starting
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: Origins and I was like, oh, using like brand new
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: four K cameras. I was like, this is gonna lose
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: some of its charm, and no it doesn't. It actually
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: like how sharp everything looked. And it's funny because you know,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: as we've gotten older, cameras have gotten better. So going
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: back to the blair Witch, you're like, oh, yeah, I
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: remember my home footage movies looking like this, and now
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: you watch how House Origins and you're like, shit, that's
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: what my shit looks like. Now it's this clean, and
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: it's still unsettling. You know, blair Witch is still a king.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: Oh oh dude, I'm just saying, yeah, absolutely, So pedaling
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: back into I'm gonna grab a fresh hot roll here,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: We're gonna pedal back. What you talked about Christian Badu,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: you know, camp slasher movies. What did you have in mind?
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: I'm curious to hear, right, what.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: You're not gonna talk about. Are you gonna talk about
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 5: Trevor Moorehouse again? Well?
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: No, I love that movie, but that's if he's shit.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: I don't obviously, Garrett said, are you guys familiar with
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: a bloody murder.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, I wasn't gonna I wasn't actually gonna talk about
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: that because I love how bad those are. But I remember,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: let me talk about this. When I started getting into
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: physical media, the boutique stuff like Arrow. I remember around
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: like twenty sixteen, I fyu started stocking them, and if
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: it had that A on the thing, I was getting
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: it and I'd grab it on the shelf. But I mean,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: I don't, I can if I need to. But I
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: remember picking up this movie called The Prey from Arrow
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: and it had this awesome artwork on it and this
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: creepy looking thing on the back. It was the biggest
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: pile of shit I'd ever seen in my LIFs. You've
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: seen it. It's boring as fuck, and I swear there
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: was a just as bad of an epidemic in twenty
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen of people praising every movie they got because
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: they bought it. It was still bad then. You know, yeah,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: you can talk about it now, nothing's changed because I
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: was like, fuck this piece of shit. The only reason
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: I people say, well, Christians sell it was I enjoy
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: cataloging this stuff. I'm not gonna get rid of it
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: because I don't like it, but it's horrible, horrible.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: I remember I was sick. I just recently I bought
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: a hall of Arrow stuff off a guy local to me,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: and I had a day. It must have been it
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: must have been last winter where I was, I was sick,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: and I was like, let me watch some of these,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: and I remember watching. I watched The Prey and I
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: was like, well, that wasn't very good. And then I
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: followed it up with The Chill Factor, which also wasn't
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: very good.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 5: It did around that time, like Skinned Alive and Chill Back. Yeah.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: Well because then well right after right, my third one
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: was Trapped Alive, which I ended up being my favorite.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: It ended up being my favorite of the three.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: But that's not saying much.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, but I remember seeing your video and
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: I was like, Fucky, he's right to the move.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: It was awful, dude.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: It's not good, dude, Like they're they're just are shitty ones.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: And I don't know, I think it's important to talk
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: ship as much as it is to praise good movies,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: because you know, I don't know, like I'm I'm past
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: the point of justifying anything I buy. If it's a
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: piece of ship. I will gladly say it's a piece
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: of ship.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: Blodody was there there was a how many was there?
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: Two bloody murder movies.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: There were and the fun I'm pretty sure Paramount said,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: y'all got to knock it off more water. Second because
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: like on the second one, the second one, the dude.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: First off, I still pray to God. I have talked
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: to Brad, the guy that does TERRORVISI. I said, you
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: gotta do it, you have to. I said, you gotta
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: do him, you gotta, And he always gives me the idea.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. But dude, they're such trashy, bad
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: act Like let me give you an example. There's a
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: moment in the movie where this girl's like at her
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: cabin and she's typing like a letter or something, and
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: you don't have Sometimes some people type or they're writing,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: they'll be like the voice in their head out loud
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: through the speakers. It sounds like somebody off camera, a
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: girl just just talking like.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 5: And that's supposed to be your thoughts.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: It sounds so shitty, but you can't. I swear, it's
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: like the person's in the room just off camera, like
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: talking like this to the boom bike, to be her,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: to be her voice in her head. But the opening,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: you have to see it of Bloody Murder. Dude comes
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: out in a Michael Myers jumpsuit. He's got the Part
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: five hockey mask. On the chainsaw. They show this montage
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: of I'm going through the bushes. The pain saw is
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: not all and and they've got close up shots of
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: the chainsaw and it's hitting all the blades of grass.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: The grass is just barely flopping, nothing's getting cut. And
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: then you hear the mightiest name I've ever heard. This
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: guy looks up from his pickup Chuck and he goes,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: Trevor Moorehouse. I'm like, Trevor Moore House.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 5: What kind of name is.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: Trevor Morehouse?
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 5: Like Jason Vore, He's Trevor Moore.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: All right, I gotta know the story about that, Like
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: more than anything, if if Terror Vision puts that out,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: they've got to track these people down, and they got
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: to get it off their chest, like they we need.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 5: So like they really thought it was super over because
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 5: they kept bringing it up like they just get like
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 5: they really I think they really liked the name, like
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 5: they kept saying it dude.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: So I'm on, I'm on, I'm on villains.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: Wiki dot com and uh so, full name Trevor Moore
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: House alias camp Boogey and let's see occupation Woodsman. It
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: says his powers are strength and resiliency. It's true. It
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: also it also says here, much like Jason Voorhies, Trevor
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: also wears a hockey mask. However, unlike Jason, Trevor is
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: not undead. Okay, that's very true.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: Thanks man. They're they're My introduction to those was I
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: wish I was like on the internet because it's like
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: I could have I would have known Garrett a lot
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: longer than I do when all the dead pit guys.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: But like, I remember going to Walmart in those big
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: buckets and they had these horror movie packs with the
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: trashiest That's how I saw Slaughter High and all these
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: other movies. And my brother pulled one out and he's like,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: what is this? And I saw it the Trevor. I
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: saw Bloody Murder and I got That's how I watched him.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: This was back in twenty ten, you know, eleven or something.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 5: In the artwork on a DVD. I mean that was
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 5: enough for for a kid to be like, I want
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 5: this exactly.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: I think that's how I saw. I think I rented
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: it and I was just a cover alone. I was like, oh, well,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: I mean what a great title. You know what I mean,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: Bloody Murder with that, it's a good title. Yeah, but Trevor,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: I'm still laughing. I looked up at my tabs and
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: it's just Treford More Houses up as a tab right now.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, artists end up putting out those DVDs after
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: before that, I'm assuming it's all Lionskate now, but man's yeah,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: somebody's gonna put those out. But those need special features.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: They desperately need them, because I need people to finally
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: sit in front of a camera and I need to
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: know if they're serious or if they're just laughing the
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: whole time, saying like, yeah, we we just man, we
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: just did what we could. We got it. We we
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: crossed the line as far as we could just to
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: try to make a Friday the thirteenth feel like. I
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: want to hear what they got to say, but it
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: is a it is a camp slasher.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: I want to know what the conversation was like when
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: they were like, oh, we're gonna make a sequel like
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: what justified them to be?
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: Like, fuck, yeah, let's write a sequel to that.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: Do the DVD.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the DVD sales must have been pretty good on it.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: But it's so funny because the artwork was done before
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: the movie and all that was they might have made
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: do The artwork is the best part about them. But
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: as soon as you put him part two. Last thing
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: you see in that movie's hockey mass. Somebody said, uh,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: you gotta take that off.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 5: We'll take all ten.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: We'll take all ten of your dollars unless you guys
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: take the hockey mats.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: What about Cheerleader Camper? Have you guys ever seen that one?
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: Classic, great one.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, desperate need of an upgrade, I'll tell you that
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 5: much right now. I mean it's just got that Anchor
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 5: Bay DVD was just we just watched this for that
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 5: show I did because we talked about it. You know,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 5: it had a pretty cool like little roster. You had
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 5: Leaf garretton there. You had is that how you say it?
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 5: In three Licinda? Who else is in that? There's another
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 5: big name too? I forget, but no, it's it's it's cheesy,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 5: but it's it's fun enough. You know, listen.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: It was a little sad.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, oh wait, that's the Is that the big guy?
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 5: No doodle bug?
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 5: But if you haven't seen that, I say this in
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 5: the in the episode that we did, but there's a
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 5: scene with this dude's mooning these people out the car window.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 5: Biggest ass I haven't seen in my life.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: You gotta see it.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 5: It's not even dude, it doesn't even look human. It
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 5: doesn't look human. You gotta see it for that. And
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 5: there was like this lame rap in it. It's so
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 5: freaking bad. But in the commentary that the directors talking,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 5: he's like, you know, you don't realize that this rap
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 5: was pretty hot like in the eighties. I'm like, no,
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 5: it was not even. It's probably why the movie is
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 5: not out Leif Garrett's probably like, there's no way in
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 5: hell this is coming out, Steve.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: What else?
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 5: Is there?
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: Anything?
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: You know, any any that you think kind of like
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: deserves some attention or trashy like, like, what do you
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: think about ones we haven't talked about yet?
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 4: I mean I would say cheerleader camp is one that
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 4: comes to mind more recently. Obviously in a violent nature.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 4: I feel like that. That's definitely one that I hopefully
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: that there's like some sort of a resurgence with those
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 4: type of movies. You know. It's just I feel like
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 4: now at this point, it's just so lacking of like
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: the camp Slasher, you know, movies that are out there.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 4: But I don't know, I'm curious to see, like how
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 4: they build out if they're intending on doing sequels to
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 4: the first one, Like how they intend to build out
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 4: the Methos, you know, for for that character.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: Well, I would love to know just in general, like
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: what percentage of kids are even going to like camp
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: like this anymore? You know, Like where I know that
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: I forget what? So I'm like three hours.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: Out of the.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: The lake where Camp Crystal Lake was set for fright thirteenth,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: and we've been up there. We went to the diner.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: We went to the Blair Sound Diner, a podcast I
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: was on previously, food Sucks by the way, podcast I
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: was on previously. We did an event up there, and uh,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: you know, it's an active camp still, which I like.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: Noby Bosco is the name of it. What was it,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: Noby Bosco the camp?
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: I think I can't remember. I think it is because
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: I think they're filming there, now, are they.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 5: Where they're filming Mama's Boy whatever it's called lake.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: They need to make they need to make T shirts
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: to that that Mama's Boy with the Blade.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 5: I'd wear that.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 4: Day one purchase.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, nob nob nobe Bosco. Yeah, if I
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: got that wrong.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 5: By the way, that's funny, dude. I'm literally a three
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 5: hours north of that place, are you yeah?
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it took me. Sweet here, let me look at him.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 5: I've never been I've never been to the diner. I've
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 5: never been to that camp.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: I went on the website Monday and I ordered a
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: Diner T shirt, a Diner mug, and a Diner travel
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: mug and they all have a little Jason logos on
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: them and stuff.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 5: And so.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: Blairstown Diner is a two hour drive for me.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: So well, Garrett, you know what you need to do.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: Uh my buddy, Lauren, he he goes there a lot,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: and he I said, Lauren, do me a favor, bring
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: me back a menu. He goes, okay, So he mailed
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: me a menu. When we got to frame the living room.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: There are little paper menus. If you go, you gotta
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: get get one and you can frame it because they
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: they make sure that you know you're at the Friday
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: the thirteenth Diner. So on the menu it's his home
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: of Friday. You know, it's got all this stuff on there,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: and the prices are cheapest.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 5: Ship.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: You have to take a picture and said, everything's it's
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: got it's priced like because it's one.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 5: Of those things. It's like if I don't go all
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 5: of a sudden in two years, it's something they're shutting
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 5: it down, you know, like who knows, dud dude.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: Go follow their Facebook. They just put out a clay,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: They did a they did a FLAIRSTOWND Diner Jason T
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: shirt that they sold on Friday the thirteenth. It was
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: first come, first shirt. They don't sell this shirt at
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: the They don't sell that shirt online. But they did
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: like a special with Jason with the axe over the
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: diner and I was begging somebody to grab me one,
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: but they said that they were sold out like like
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: in thirty minutes. So follow their face. Yeah, follow their
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: Facebook and you keep up with that stuff because they
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: they do all kinds of cool little things. I'm moving.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 5: I can't live well the camp. The camp too, like
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 5: they have a website, and there's some cool shit on
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 5: that on that site, like for that camp Frida thirteenth
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 5: the later, for instance, I bought a thing it's it's
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 5: water from the way it says it's it's got like
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 5: it's it's got pammel of arhees water or something that
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 5: says on it. But like it's cool. Like they have
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 5: a lot of cool like little props on that even
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 5: sign ship like signed oars and stuff by the cast.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 5: I mean, there's tons of cool stuff on that site
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 5: for the uh, for the camp that they're they're selling
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 5: if you're a big collector and stuff like that.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: And they do they do like camp tours all the time.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: I know Blairs Sound Diner. We went to an event
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: and uh we met Harry Manferdini. He came out. That's
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: also where I met Vince what's his last time who
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: directed Never Hike Alone.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: Vince Sente Vincente de Santi, vincent Desanti, Vincente de Santi.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know how you say it.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he came out for that event. So it was
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: really cool. They do a lot of cool stuff there man,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: because like right behind the diner there's this massive like field,
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: so they do all kinds of events back there and
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: stuff for and then I think the camp's only like
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: a fifteen minute drive from the diner. It's not far.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: But it's funny because when you look at when you
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: look at a diner in the movie, it's kind of
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: plopped in the middle of like nowhere, seemingly, and then
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: when you get to the diner in real life, it's
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: a very clustered area, like there's no room for parking.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: It's like next to this store and across the streets
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: another store. And it kind of took me. I had
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: to find the angle to like fine, I actually pulled
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: up like the shot from the movie, and I had
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: to find that angle to actually see it. I was like, oh,
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: this makes sense now. But yeah, it's a it's funny, man,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: because you know, we talk a lot about these types
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: of movies and how they're just kind of dying out,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: and I don't know, I don't know what it is.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know. It's clearly not a lack of interest.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: Horror is bigger than it's really ever been before. It's
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: a huge money maker. People are really starving for the
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: throwback horror right now. And you know, hell, the Summer
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: was really cool doing a supposedly like throwback style campground
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: slash are directed by kids that were, you know, twenty
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: one years old, twenty two years old, who have some
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 3: history at the genre. But it's for some reason, looking
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 3: at it technically, it feels like something that wouldn't cost
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: too much to make, Like you can throw it together
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: a nice campground setting and have a killer in the cabins,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: and I feel like it's not all that much.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 5: But you know, you think some some people, directors and
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 5: other people think it's just too cliche, so they try
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 5: to like stay away from it because they're like, oh,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 5: you know, it's too cliche to do it this way.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 5: Where I do think that we're kind of thirsty for it.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 5: Like when I went to Panicfest, you know, they had Marshmallow,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 5: they had Hell of a Summer there. Unfortunately Hell of
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 5: the Summer was there on a day I wasn't. But
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 5: when I was looking through all the movies, when I
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 5: saw two movies, say Summer Camp, I was like, shit,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 5: I gotta that's on the list of ones to check out,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 5: like to me as a horror fan, like I wanted
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 5: to see those because you know, I am thirsty for
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 5: those kind of movies still where I don't know if
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 5: people that are making the movies just be like, you know,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 5: we're gonna just want do another camp slash on like
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 5: everybody else. And like we talked about we're having a
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 5: tough time, didn't find it any more to talk about.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 5: We didn't talk about that many tonight. Like I think
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 5: people do think that there's more out there than there
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 5: really is because of Friday thirteenth and stuff like that.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 5: And now there was one that came out in twenty fifteen.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys saw it was called
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 5: Final Girls. It was kind of like a I'm not
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 5: gonna say it was a spoof on it, but it
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 5: was a different angle that they took on. I actually
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 5: thought it was really cool and it wasn't a movie
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 5: that I thought I was gonna like. When it was
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 5: brought to my attention, I was like, I'll check it
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 5: based on what you said, but I was like, eh,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 5: But I watched it, and I was like I had
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 5: a lot of fun with that.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: I did too. I remember that, Yeah, I did see that.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: That was funny, and that's a PG thirteen slasher two.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, So it was like, yeah, it's about a
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 5: girl whose mother was like Adrian King, like basically and
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 5: like a Friday thirteenth movie, and she ends up dying
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 5: and she gets transported into the movie with her mother
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 5: and she's like in the movie, so she knows things
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 5: that are gonna happen. It's it's like a Groundhog Day
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 5: kind of thing, but it's within like a slasher movie.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 5: I thought it was actually pretty cool.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, that was one and the same with
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: a because I know we talk back and forth like
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 3: Stage Fright is. Technically it takes place at up it's
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: like a you know, a theater camper. Yeah, it's a
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: theater camp very it was very musical, yeah, yeah, very musical.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: So there's there's tons that are kind of floating around
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: it there because in Stage Fright had a had a remake,
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: I think twenty thirteen or so around that there was
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: a remake of Stage Fright. There was like a Magnet
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: releasing title. Yes, there's something something small, but yeah, man,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: like I know, I'm very thirsty for it. And it's funny, man,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: because like as as as a horror fan, you know,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: as much as I love Terrifier, there there's a lot
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: of this modern day stuff that I'm kind of like, eh,
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: you know, like I I think the Terrifying movies are cool,
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 3: but I'm not like I'm like, yeah, it's a cool,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: you know, introduction for a lot of people. I enjoy them,
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 3: but then I still miss the simplicity of just the
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: older stuff. Man, maybe maybe we're old.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 5: If you put terrify are on the table and you
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 5: put a violent nature on the table.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: I which is like violent nature.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 5: That's just it's just what I'm into. I like more
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 5: slower paced movies. I don't need the gore. I mean,
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 5: I think Terrifier is fun, but I think sometimes I
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 5: feel like they rely too heavily on just those moments
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 5: that go viral, you know, and you get people talking
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 5: than than the story itself. Yeah, I mean I would.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 5: I would love to see more camp slashers, you know,
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 5: on the horizon, or even if they try to take
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 5: a different angle and have that summer camp atmosphere, but
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 5: not even making a slasher. I think I've got back
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 5: their Summer Camp Nightmare, which is a movie I hype
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 5: up all the time. It's not a slasher movie. It's
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 5: a summer camp movie, but it's more of like a
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 5: movie kind of like Lord of the Flies, but at
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 5: a summer camp, right, So it's it's got horror elements
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 5: to it, but it's not a slasher movie. I talked
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 5: about Marshmallow earlier. It's a summer camp slasher, but when
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 5: you watch it, you're gonna be like, it's got all
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 5: the pieces to a slasher, but it is a little
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 5: bit them. So, I mean, I think that that's the
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 5: aesthetic of the summer camp I think is still effective.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 5: I just think it'd be interesting to see what people
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 5: to do with it.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, even I'm happy. I'm happy just to be
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: in the Woods period, because that's it could have been.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it was.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: Garrett.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: I watched a movie about a bear called Backcountry last
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: year and I loved it. It's fantastic. Uh And Willow Creek,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: which is a found footage movie about them going to
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: look for I love that too. The Woods it's so primo.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: You are not whenever your people are not at the
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: top of the food chain. That's for me. That's good enough.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: And this is gonna sound so silly to me to say,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: but I don't want all this shit to get all
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: these intricate storylines and mythologies, like we're look, look, terrifier,
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: that there's a mythology to a goddamn clown m like
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: really really like then like at the end of it,
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: like she went through a oh my god. But I
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: think we're realizing now, like how many young people that
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: are into these movies haven't seen the stuff we've talked about.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of sixteen seventeen eight year olds that
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: they're getting in the horror because of terrifiers. So to them,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: this is there, that terrifier is there burning and Friday
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: the thirteenth and all that.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: So do you think that's that's going.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 5: To hurt the the back end of the genre, like
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 5: coming into terrifyer and that's your expectation going forward? Do
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 5: you think going backwards in time and trying to watch
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 5: some of these movies is gonna be hard for kids
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 5: of that age now, Like imagine one of them trying
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 5: to sit through the original Pride thirteenth without the idea of, hey,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 5: this movie is like super important to what you like now,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 5: so watch this and kind of see, like, you know,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 5: if it wasn't for this movie and appreciate it. Are
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 5: we too far gone? Because even people that might be
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 5: a little bit younger than me that got into it
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 5: when Rob Zombies Halloween came out. I think can still
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 5: appreciate John Carford's Halloween and get into all those movies
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 5: back then because it was similar enough where I think
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 5: now it's totally in a different stratosphere where I don't
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 5: know if some of these movies that we are sitting here,
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 5: like the Burning is so great and the you know,
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 5: the scene with the on the lake with the canoes,
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 5: like the kids now watch that and be like stupid.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, probably probably, But with age comes with age,
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: your taste change. And you know, when I was young,
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't have caught me dead listening to Blue Extra Cult.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: Now that's all I listened to. So probably a lot
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: of them as they get older, they'll go back and
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: they'll you know, I think I think they will. But
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: or dude, this is the video game computer age. Now
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: now now, now, now, now you mean you mean she
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: just makes tea and Friday the like that's what she
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: does in that scene. Like you know, now, I love
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: that scene. You know, I know people my age that
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: still don't you know, still I have friends that are
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: just like nothing happens. It's like you don't get it,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: like you'll never get it, you know.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's I mean I've talked to people that
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: you know, I work. I work in retail, so I
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 3: talk to people all the time, and I meet people
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 3: who come in wearing Terrifier Terrifier shirts and you're like,
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 3: you'd be hard pressed even think they were a horror
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: fan outside of just watching Terrifier. Its reach that level
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: where you know, you walk into hot topic and that's
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 3: where you see you see Terrifier, and you know, now
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: you're starting to see like a few of those movies
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: have kind of like you know, you see American Psycho stuff.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 3: You're like, oh, it's weird that that movie kind of
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: broke out to the younger.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: It's very it's it's very TikTok ish, like they American
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: Psycho gets used all like you ever see those videos
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: of like guys like rejecting rejecting girls and then it
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: goes to Christian Bale with that smile face, Like all
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: those clips in that movie get turned into memes and tiktoks.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 5: So you know, yeah, it's.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: Just it's funny because like you go to you know,
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 3: we go to monster Mania twice a year. It's a
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: you know, ten minute walk from our apartment. And you see,
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: I mean this year, when I go in August, I
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: really want to count the amount of terrifier merch that
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: I see, whether it's on somebody's person or on a table.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: It's really kind of it's really out of control. And
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 3: I get it. Like, you know, it's funny because a
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: lot of times I talk to people and like when
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: I go to Monster Media, a lot of times, like
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: I'm just wearing a plain black T shirt. I don't
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 3: have any I don't like pull out my horror shirts
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 3: for the convention, you know. I'm more of a like clothing,
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: like regular clothing.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 5: Guy.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: And we went to New Jersey Horror con and I
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 3: got talking to a guy that kind of the same way. Man,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 3: guy's got a black, plain black T shirt on. He's
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 3: got a couple of tattoos.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 3: It looked like the dad that brought his terrifier daughter along.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 3: And we got talking and he's like, yeah, dude, my
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: favorite movie of all time. Man, He's like Cannibal Holocaust.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 3: I'm like, hell, yeah, dude, He's like yeah, then I
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 3: started watching. He's like then I started watching Cannibal Pharaoh
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 3: and then he's like, oh, I receee this to that,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh shit, dude, I'm talk like an
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: og in this, like you know. And then I'm like, then,
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: you know, a couple of people walk by and they
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: got art the clown t shirts and backpacks and all that.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: It's like to me, it's like terrifier and scream are
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 3: like personalities for yeah, It's like.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 5: It's like a catch twenty two and like one way,
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 5: I'm you know, there was a part of me for
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 5: a long time that was like, why can't we come
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 5: up with the next Jason Freddie, Michael Myers. We're using
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 5: the same four icons forever, Like what what is the
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 5: problem here? How can they just continue on? But they
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 5: You're right, So we got ghost s, face and art
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 5: and stuff now, which in one way is cool because
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 5: it's bringing it forward. But at the same time, I
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 5: think it's just I don't know, like I don't know
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 5: if I'm what are the word that they call it,
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 5: like gaslighting? What is the word that people use now
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 5: where it's like or like, I don't know what what
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 5: it's called gatekeeping? That's the word I'm looking for gate
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 5: key gatekeeping or whatever, like yeah, like I don't I
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 5: don't want to feel that way. But same time, it
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 5: is it is interesting because it's cool at one end,
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 5: but at the same time, it's just it's just I
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 5: think it just ages me, I guess, And I think
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 5: it hurts the old characters because you want these people
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 5: that are getting into horror for these characters to also
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 5: appreciate the people that came before, And I don't know
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 5: if it's gonna work that way.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 3: You know, Well, when you look at the Kills and Terrifier, like, yeah,
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: they're super bloody and they're vicious, but some of this stuff,
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: a lot of this stuff coming out of the eighties
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 3: it was much simpler, have a bigger impact on me.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 3: You know, Like get see watching Terrifier three and you
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 3: get to the chainsaw scene, You're like, man, this is
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 3: this just keeps going and it's bloody and it's violent,
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 3: But that doesn't have the same resonance with me as
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 3: like we talked about, you know, the raft scene from
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: the Burning, which is one tenth as violent a scene,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: you know it like doesn't it like softens the impact
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: And they're just not as well.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 5: I can still remember seeing Front thirteen for the first time,
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 5: that head chop off scene was mind blowing to me.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 3: Tom Zavini's Harry hands coming up.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 5: I had never seen anything like it. I was like,
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 5: you know, she just got decapitated by like this thing,
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 5: and like that stuck with me. But now people look
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 5: at that and they'd probably laugh, right like it's like
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 5: give a joke or something.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I had my moment actually with Hatchet back here
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: in you know, two thousand and nine ten or whatever,
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: when Victor takes the girl's mouth from top to bottom
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: and rips it all the way open. I hadn't seen
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: anything like that kind of with Saw, but not in
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: a slasher film. Like watching Tobin Bell get a brain
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: surgery done in three is pretty remarkable, but in a
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: slasher form. Had like, I, I don't like being like this,
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: but I'm sorry, Like Adam did all this already, you know,
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: not maybe not as high faluting, but like Adam did
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: all this, and you know, I lived it. Hatchet is
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: my terrifier and always will be.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 5: You know, dude, you wonder why he doesn't capitalize on
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 5: this and just and just do terrifier in the woods
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 5: with Victor, Like why doesn't. Why don't we just do this?
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 5: Why doesn't he on this right now?
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: Good question. Shout out to my buddy. I got a
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: buddy named Brandon that has a podcast called Talks from
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: the Crypt, and he just interviewed him, and Adam hates
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: Dark Sky films. He refuses to do He didn't outright
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: say it, but nope, everybody knows who he's talking about.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: He refuses to make another one until they let go.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: I have a feeling, Garrett. The reason they released a
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: steel book collection was to keep you know how, like
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: when you license something, you have to do something unless
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: you lose it. That's the reason they put out a
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: steel book. He's not He's not doing anything Hatchet until
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: he gets out from under him. He hates him. We
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: don't know why he won't get into it, but he
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: straight he said, Anchor Bay. Yeah, and then I guess
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: stars are like, we don't want the.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 3: Ship and Hatchet, dude, that's that kill you're talking about
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 3: with the head rip open.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: That I was like, what the fuck?
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: When I saw it, even even the transition into the
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 3: effect when the camera quickly spins around in one shot
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 3: and then it comes back and it's already ripping like
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 3: it's you can see the transition into the effect.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: Adam's man, so effective, dude, yeah.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 3: So effective. It's I don't know, man, I mean, how
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 3: many movies come out a year that they're like all
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 3: the nastiest things.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 5: It's terrifier.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 3: There's so many movies that come out that are like,
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 3: this is the thing since terrifying.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 5: I I you know it.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: You gotta remember too, Like I said, a lot of
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: these kids that a lot of them they're just getting
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: into horror. It's like they haven't they haven't seen Lucio
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: Pulci Zombie. I'd argue that's still way more disturbing a terrifier.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: It just is what it is and let him have it.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: It's funny because I just rewatched the First Terrifier. That's
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: my terrifier. There's no story there. He shits in a
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: pizzeria and smears on the walls and then chases the
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: two girls in that warehouse. That's all it is. I
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: love the First Terrifier. It's funny because like Terrifier fans
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: on mass hate it because there's no story. Excuse me, Like,
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: is there really much story to half of these movies?
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: We've talked about. No, like I don't get im. I'm
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: out of touch dude, Like I really am. And that's fine,
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: but like, I'm not interested in the portals that the
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: clown walks through at the end of Terrifier three. And
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: now we're gonna find out what ancient you know, Babylon
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: texts we're gonna read that caused all this shit to have.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: It's just like, you know, it is what it is, dude,
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: I'm out of touch. I accept it. I accept it.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 3: On on our After Hours episode, which will be out
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 3: before this, we talked about green Room, and I know
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 3: it's not a summer slasher, but one of the points
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 3: I brought about green Room is is how simple it is.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 3: Like you have this very simple plot of we're stuck
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 3: and we have to escape, and yeah, it brings in
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 3: all these complicated elements like neo Nazis and you have
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 3: all of this going on around it very simple story,
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 3: we have to escape. It never does anything crazy with
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 3: the characters. There's never anything, and I kind of missed that.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 3: Just give me a situation and then find it to
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 3: a resolution or not. Just let the situation play out,
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 3: don't bring in all these other things and make it
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 3: whatever you want to make it, add on all these
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 3: other elements. To me, it's it's best like in a
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 3: violent nature where it's like here's the story, that's it.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 3: This is what you get, you know.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 5: But the in Room is an interesting one because that's
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 5: another one that's hard watch for me because I like
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 5: lived in environments like that growing up like it as
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 5: I was in I was big into the hardcore scene
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 5: for a long time, as like a fifteen year old
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 5: kid getting dropped off by my friend's father who is
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 5: now like you know, his parents would divorce, so his
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 5: dad would do whatever the hell he wanted him to do,
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 5: so like he'd pick us up on Saturday and my
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 5: friends like bring us to any like Brockton, like one
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 5: of the roughest areas in Massachusetts, drop us off here
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 5: because there's an underground hardcore show going on, and literally
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 5: like we're two fifteen year old kids in there with
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 5: like skinheads and all this crazy shit going on around us,
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 5: and we're just like headbanging. I'm thinking of myself when
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 5: I watched that movie, like holy shit, Like we could
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 5: have been in situations like this like so many times,
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 5: and it was probably so much weird shit going on
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 5: backstage that we didn't see because we were kind of
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 5: in the back of the place just you know, bombing
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 5: our heads to the music, and then our dad, his
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 5: dad would pick us up like two hours later. But like, man,
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 5: we were in some sketchy assed area, sketchy ass areas
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 5: with some we've seen. I saw some violence with you know,
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 5: people in different groups and all this stuff, people getting
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 5: stads with models and shite now and stuff. Luckily we
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 5: didn't get involved in any of them. We were far
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 5: in the back. But like, that's that was. It felt
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 5: so real watching them.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 3: I love this man so very similar to you. I
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 3: grew up in the hardcore community. That was my I
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 3: was in a hardcore band when I was eighteen, and
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 3: I grew up. It started like fourteen, going to local shows,
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 3: and then we started going into Philly, and you know,
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 3: some of these venues you went to are literally like
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 3: somebody's basement, you know, and we were I remember at
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 3: one point going to this is Hardcore Fest in Philly
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 3: and I was I think, dude, I think I maybe
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 3: just got my license. Somebody else drove us and I
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 3: met a couple of guys that like my friends were
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 3: friends with, and somebody getting killed that night right outside
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 3: the venue from some gang stuff. And then it was
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 3: only a couple of years later that I was watching
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 3: gang Land and they did an episode on FSU and
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 3: they had interviewed like six seven people that I personally like,
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: we're at shows with, you know, guys that were affiliated
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 3: with this shit. And I was always a thing too,
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 3: like dude FSUs here, like, oh shit, easy dud. I
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 3: watched the guys bro, I watched we we uh. We
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 3: went to a hoods show at a at a local venue,
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 3: and I remember the promoter trying to trying to fuck
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 3: them over somehow, and right in the middle of a
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 3: crowded venue, dude the VOCALI hast pulled a gun on him,
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 3: and I remember being like five feet from them, you know,
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 3: thinking like, oh shit, what's going on.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: I'm waiting for my mom to pick me up due
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: for real.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 5: It was. It was some scary shit back then. I'm
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 5: surprised that worst stiff stuff didn't happen. I mean, I'm
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 5: sure you probably kind of being on the East Coast,
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 5: you saw a lot of the same fans come through
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 5: like we, Like I knew the singer for like Ary
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 5: your Dad, Like, yeah, I thought Mark and Joe Kruco
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 5: were like the two original singers, and my friend Mark
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 5: bailed right after the demo album and then it was
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 5: just Joe and then he bailed, and Joe was one
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 5: of those was one of those dudes that everybody feared
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 5: around this area over here. So it's just wild to see, Like,
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 5: how you know, is that Joe hardcore? Probably Joe cru Coal, Yeah,
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 5: I think that's Joe. I think that's Joe hardcore. Yeah,
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 5: another guy that like here, and then after he got
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 5: on the hardcore scene, he became like an MMA fighter whatever. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 5: It's like I.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 3: Remember the first time watching Green Room and I was like, man,
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 3: this is it, Like this is what these venues?
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 3: Luckily I never never wound up in an area I
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 3: think that strong in beliefs as that movie took place,
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 3: but definitely, like looking back, I'm like, yeah, we were
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 3: surrounded by some real pieces of shit at this time,
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 3: and like, you know, people who super nice to you,
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 3: Like I remember I remember going to shows where like
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 3: people used to be like, look, man, you can go
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 3: into the pit, but don't hit these people over here,
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 3: because if you do you're gonna get jumped or whatever.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, dude, I'm just gonna hang out
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 3: over here then as far away as possible from them,
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 3: you know. But yeah, I mean it's just interesting.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 3: Like I think I think there needs to be a
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 3: research and somehow. I mean, honestly, I I hope all
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 3: these Terrifier kids, you know, do discover more.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: I hope that they. I mean, I know my sister
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: who is.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 3: She's nineteen, and she loves Terrifier. But every now and
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 3: then she'll shoot me a text and she's like, oh, hey,
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 3: you know I watch this movie. I'm like, I'm a
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 3: little proud. I'm like, nice, you know, we're kind of going.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 3: It depends on whatever's in the top ten on Netflix,
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 3: I think, or like most watched on Prime at the time.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, thank you guys for doing this
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 3: with us. I know, the fires getting a little dim
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 3: I think I think the food I hung up back
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 3: over there on the tree, I think some bears are
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 3: probably sniffing that. Now I go check on that.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: Somebody's gotta go shit in the woods or something.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 3: Christian's gotta go shit in the woods.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: I just want to let the record show too. I
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: used to have to drive up through the Ninth Ward
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: to go visit family when I was a kid, and
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: I would still rather do that at night with the
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: windows down, then go to a Barrier Dead show my
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: brother took me to when I was fourteen years old.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: Oh no, It went to a show and Hammond, Louisiana,
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: and I was terrified.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 3: My brother was.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: Listening to them religiously at the time, and I think
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: the record with all the Tom Cruise songs was just
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: out or just came out, and he was listening to
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: it all the time. And I remember my brother took
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: me to the show and Hammond and begged my mom
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: just say they just dropped this off. And I'd never
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: really listened to hardcore music before. And this guy gets
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: on the stage and he goes, I'm want this place
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: fucking erupting, and dude. People literally said.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 3: I was crying.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: I was getting My brother goes cool, Chris, let's go,
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: let's go, and he pulls me back.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 5: Dude.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 3: It was insane.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: And then we met him and they were the night
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: they were, they were chill. They were like, how you
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: guys doing. Yeah, I I that was the scariest night
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: of my life. And then I got to see him
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: with the black guy and he was amazing. No, no, no,
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: I saw him twice. I saw him with the teacher.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: The teacher, and then I saw him with the black guy,
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: and the black guy was so cool. But that's the
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: scariest night of my entire your life. Those guys were
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: killing each other in the crowd.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 3: I want to let the record show for anybody who's like,
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 3: never really listened to hardcore. For as much as we've
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 3: talked about how scary it is, for the most part,
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 3: it's a remarkably positive genre of music, like and whatnot. Yeah,
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 3: one of my favorite I mean, I have them tattooed
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 3: on me. Six to your Guns. You know, those guys
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 3: are that's West Coast hardcore, but those guys are all
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 3: about positivity, the ghosts inside.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of this genre that I
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 3: feel like it's lumped into the violence category. And that's
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 3: a lot of that's kind of an East Coast thing,
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 3: the New York hard core scene, and.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: You know, I think Boston is a little bit.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 3: Kind of in the middle. They're kind of like that
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 3: punk hardcore scene. But uh, you know, the show's the
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 3: shows are violent, but it's funny because a guy who
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 3: just punched you in the head on the side of
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 3: the pit will probably give you a hug afterwards and apologize,
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 3: maybe even a kiss on the fuck head, dude, if you.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: Didn't pit me in a gydamn head, I'm hitting you back.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: I don't want to apologies.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 5: Is so straight because it has just as much sub
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 5: genres as horror movie, horror dark. It is like, you know,
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 5: some of these bands you can't take you know, Bury
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 5: You're Dead and say it's kind of like ten yard fight.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 5: It just doesn't happen like it's like it's like it's
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 5: very different, right, even like twenty five to life, very
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 5: different than than a lot of the bands. So yeah, yeah,
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 5: it's crazy when you go to a show and you
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 5: have like, uh, you'll have like sick of You'll have
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 5: like sick of it all playing, and then you have Terror,
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 5: and then there's stick to your Guns, and then there's
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 5: Bury You're Dead, and you're like, wait a second, old,
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 5: none of this sounds the same, but it's all you know,
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 5: all comes on and he's rapping and playing.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, my brother showed me. I never would
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: have in my life heard any of those bands. But
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: my brother got me into all that and that was
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: really picky, but for me, the Kings were bleeding through.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: That's my favorite of all time.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 5: That was track when that thing hit with the fire
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 5: fight for Fringer Boon do yeah on fire Yeah. Like,
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 5: so eighteen Visions is like one of my fier bands
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 5: and that, dude, it came from that brand.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah dude, you just said. The moment you said eighteen Visions,
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 3: my brain instantly started playing Tonight List. Yeah all right, dud, dude,
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 3: yeah album.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: I saw that on FUSE. I saw the music video
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: on fud but remember that it was on for like
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: two weeks and then it went away.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it had the did that have the casket solo?
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 5: Is that what that was?
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 3: When he was on the that was I can't ask.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 5: It's it's so interesting. I actually had talked to I know,
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 5: James Hart, who's the singer of that band. He's we
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 5: have a mutual friend, and I actually talked to him
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 5: when that album had its anniversary, which I think was
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 5: either probably twenty twenty three, about coming on the show
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 5: and talking about it because I'm so that's like one
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 5: of my favorite albums ever and that was a make
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 5: or break album for them, Like that was, Hey, we're
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 5: gonna kind of sell out a little bit here because
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 5: we want to become what A Bench Sevenfold was. At
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 5: that point, Avenge Sevenfold broke through and eighteen Videos wanted
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 5: to be right there, and they put everything they had
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 5: left in that album, money, everything, and they basically said,
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 5: this is it. It's it's it's now or never. And
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 5: it didn't. It didn't take off, and they broke up,
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 5: and he went to burn Halo and did stuff over there,
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 5: and then the rest of the band started another band
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 5: called Never Enough, and then they just came back. They
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 5: came back like a couple of years ago and reformed,
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 5: but they went back to like the original sound, like
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 5: the real heavy screaming and stuff sound. So that album
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 5: is kind of almost anomaly because it's so different than
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 5: like everything that they've ever done. But I find it
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 5: to be almost like a perfect album, and I'm unfortunate
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 5: that it didn't take off the way they wanted to.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 5: So you're not familiar. If anybody's wants to know, it's
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 5: eighteen Visions. Eighteen v is the album, and it's an
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 5: incredible album, and it's sad that it just never amounted
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 5: to what they wanted. But I think, in my opinion,
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 5: they've probably I think some of those singles they chose
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 5: probably would have not been my choice. And maybe that's
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 5: what it is. But a cool album, Yeah, check it out,
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 5: But that's the one you listen.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 3: We talk about how people mature and music takes changed.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 3: Just the other day, I had on, I had on. Uh, Well,
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 3: first I was listening to Headbanger's Ball Volume one, which
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 3: was a pinnacle. You know, that's where I discovered Silverstein
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 3: on Headbanger's Ball and all this, you know, hate read
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 3: all that. But I was listening to Blue October and
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 3: hate Me came on a playlist and I remember Wonder
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 3: band Dude, I remember, and it just hit me for
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 3: some reason so different that I've listened to it like
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 3: six times over the last you know, maybe maybe a
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 3: couple of weeks. So it's just.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: Interesting how that happens, that you go back and kind
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: of rediscover some of that stuff.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 5: But yeah, you could not listen to a certain song
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 5: or an album for so long. It's all of a
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 5: sudden you put it on and you feel like, how
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 5: do I know all these words? Like was I really
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 5: listened to this like five hundred Yeah, I remember like
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 5: every lyric, like I'm an album I haven't heard ten years.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 3: Why before we go? Because this campfire feels good right now?
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 3: What what is that band for you?
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 5: So?
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 3: For me, it's Yellow Card My one of my favorite
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 3: bands of all time. I can tell I even't there
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 3: are two new singles that just came out like a
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 3: week ago. I already know those songs front to back,
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 3: like I've seen them double digits times. You know that's
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 3: that's every year my Spotify wrap their number one And
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 3: I'm like the point six percent of listeners? Who is
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 3: that band for you?
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 5: Guys?
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 3: Like favorite band of all time?
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: Is that?
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 3: Yours are probably You're I say you're probably Alice Cooper,
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 3: right or Blue Oyster Code. At this point, it's Alice Cooper. Yeah, yeah, I'm.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 5: Gonna say I will I will say this. I was
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 5: a crazy music guy my whole life. Now I feel
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 5: like I don't listen to music at all. Like I
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 5: listen to music at work because it's on all day,
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 5: but a lot of times it's like just random stuff
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 5: and sometimes I'll grab the thing and be like, oh,
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 5: it's kind of not busy and here I'm gonna throw
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 5: on this album just to re listen to it. But
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 5: I really don't listen to a lot of stuff now.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 5: But if I have to say, an album that I
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 5: put on still on a regular basis is skid Row
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 5: skin Row. I'll put on all the time, like front
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 5: to back, Like I find it to be like one
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 5: of the best albums ever. I find myself playing that
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 5: a lot. But if it comes to like old school
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 5: like stuff like that you were just talking about. Man,
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 5: I just celebrated anniversary. It's not hardcore or anything, but
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 5: that first used album, it's like, like I don't know
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 5: what the blue and yellow, all that shit box full
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 5: of shop, Like I freaking love that album, and I
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 5: must have seen them at that point in time, like
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 5: I feel like a dozen times during that it's for me.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 3: It's that first album where it's the what's the album
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 3: called in Love and Death whatever? The second one? Yeah, yeah,
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 3: both of those are perfect. Steve, what about you? I
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 3: don't even really know, like what your taste of me?
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: He's a hip hop guy?
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 5: Why it is?
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 4: Well, I used to be. But I mean, if I
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 4: had to pick one band, it has to be Deaf
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 4: Tones for sure.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 6: Oh okay, I never was a big dees, you know,
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 6: because Steve looks like he could be in a hardcore
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 6: band because he's got like, like you look like you
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 6: could be like the guitar player or throwdown or something.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 4: I feel like at least like like music tastes pretty diverse.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 4: I really like to cure a lot depeche Mode and
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 4: in Nails. That's I mean, that's along the lines of
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 4: like what I grew up on and then you guys
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 4: were talking about hardcore earlier. So like Voice in the
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 4: Weld class job, most are the bands that, like, I
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 4: was really big gotten.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 3: Oh you know, I I fucking lie. I knew that
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 3: because you just saw glass Jaw a week ago, a
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 3: couple months ago.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 4: Misery Signals is another big one for me.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 3: Oh Signals, Oh dude, that just like took me.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 4: Uh, I'm broken. Wings aren't they from out in New England?
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: Dude? Are probably you just unlocked a memory from a
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: Misery Signals. There's a music video where the singer had
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: like his hand was messed up the whole music video.
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: His hand was behind what is the name.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 3: Of that song?
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: It was so badass now to figure I used to
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: watch dude. Yeah, when my brother got me into these
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: kinds of bands. I remember when we would watch Headbanger's
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: Ball and we would check them out and like Divine
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: Harrisy would come on and be like, this is good stuff.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: And and I remember we watched House of Straw, the
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: music video from Very You're Dead, and dude, we're just
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: fucking air drumming and air guitar and and then under
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: Oath came on right after it, and we were just
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: like fucking pussy band. Fuck y'all, y'all ain't ship emo bitches.
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: Fuck y'all.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 3: We hated it.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: We hated dude, we were My brother was at that
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: point man like. We were covering a lot of that
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: stuff with that was just man. He was. He was
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: skinning his hair real short, working out all day long,
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: man like.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 5: We were hard.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: He got me into that ship big time. But when
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: he showed me bleeding through Love Loss, when I heard
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: that snare that he looked at me, we were like,
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: oh shit, this is it's fun. I had never heard
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: a band sound like like the most gothic, sinister hellish
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: music like Brandon Schappetty legitimately sounds angry.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 5: And then they that video when he came out with
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 5: that that I mean, he looked how intimidating he was
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 5: jacked he was here, dude, And then they did that
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 5: scene or a slow down and the freaking guitarist does
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 5: that like flip kick.
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: And then a keyboard that that coachle. That is the greatest.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: That record is, And I like the next one too.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: I think it's called Trust or The Killer whatever. But
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: that record with the Knife through the Heart, I I
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: get emotional thinking about that because that record was so
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: important in my life. Like when my brother got that
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: inn fy and I was looking through it. I had
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: never heard music like that in my entire life, and
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: I still know every god damn song off of it.
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: I love bleeding Through.
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 5: It was for me.
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 3: It was like bleeding through It dies today, Yeah, it
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 3: dies today? Was great. But even things like I was
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 3: a huge a tray you fan dude under oath, Like
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 3: it's really hard to deny the impact of the They're
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 3: Only Chasing Safety album, And then I remember growing up
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 3: into defining a great line and loving that. And you know,
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 3: the music taste was so diverse. I could go from
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 3: from under oath to to bleeding through to even like
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 3: you know whatever else from there, you know, misery signals.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 5: I feel like, as much as it feels far away,
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 5: there was a lot of connection to it where I
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 5: didn't feel like I was like, oh I can I'm
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 5: gonna go see taking Back Sunday today and then tomorrow
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go see yeah, tray you over here and
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 5: not really feel like I was too far off of
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 5: like the you know the road. Really it was like
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 5: I just a skylet drive as a band that I
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 5: freaking love. By the way, if you guys are over
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 5: them right, that was yeah, dynamic of a band too,
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 5: Like you had these kids that sounded like little girls,
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 5: but like it was heavy as shit. And then do
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 5: you remember when they left and they came back. If
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 5: you look at their it's still boggles my mind. They
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 5: like they rode that first album for a long time,
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 5: like he made a shit ton of money. I know
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 5: they changed singers at some point, but then they came
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 5: back with like bring Me a War and that video
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 5: shot up and they all were just steroid it out
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 5: of their minds. They went from like little skinny kids
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 5: with long hair and then like two years later three
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 5: years later, they're like monsters, like that's my favorite, and
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 5: I was like, holy shit.
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 3: Still my favorite Skylight Drive song is too Little Too Late,
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 3: which was one of the singles off that era of
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 3: theirs bring Me Bring Me a War album. I think
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 3: I can't remember if it was Bringing Me a War
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 3: or what, but I remember two Little Too a.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 5: D was the album with that on it. That was
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 5: probably my favorite.
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 3: But yeah, well you had like them, you had like
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 3: all those guys that I that I eventually met were
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 3: so little, Like Maddy Mullens from meant As Mayfire. I
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 3: remember like we shot a live music video for them,
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 3: and uh, I just worked on the cameras and I
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 3: got a chance to meet him after and here comes
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 3: like this five foot five, you know, super skinny kid,
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 3: and he walks out and he's like, hey, man, I
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 3: really appreciate your working there.
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 3: So I'm like, this is the guy that was like, look,
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 3: you know, six foot eight on stage and just dominated
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 3: for forty five minutes. And then and then I met
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 3: like I remember meeting Mitch Hedburg from Suicide Silence and
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 3: it's like this, you know, six foot three, just monster.
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 5: Of a man.
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 3: You're like Mitch.
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 4: Are you talking about Mitch Luker.
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 3: Or Mitch Lucker. Yeah, oh, that's right, and Mitch Lucas
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 3: say sorry, I was thinking about Mitch Hedburg earlier, the
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 3: comedian Weird I.
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 4: Remember they were. They were really big for a while.
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 4: Well them and like White Chapel Spice Icon.
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 3: At the same time, I'm in a I'm in a
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 3: job for a cowboy music video that they shot at
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 3: uh the ship first. Yeah, and it's very very quick.
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 3: They shot it at the first Unitarian Church in Philly
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 3: and they didn't tell anybody they were shooting a music
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 3: video and they were like, yeah, there's no rules. So
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 3: I fucking did a half ass front flip off the
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 3: stage and you can actually see me kick accidentally kick
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 3: somebody in the base on the way down.
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 5: That is hilarious because I'm in I'm in the hate
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 5: read I Will be Heard video. Really yeah, like they
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 5: said they filmed that with us. They told us they
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 5: were filming it, so like, you know, I was you
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 5: see me in the pit like three times I did,
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 5: Like the last one, I do like a sliding like
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 5: kick or whatever. But like, yeah, if you look, if
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 5: you watch that video, you can find me it's I
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 5: got like a stripe polo on with like a white
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 5: hat and like the shell choker or whatever. Yeah, you
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 5: can see you can see me in a couple of
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 5: spots and them in that video.
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 4: Well, just Converge big for you guys. Did you guys
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 4: ever listen to Converge at all?
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 5: Converge? I went through a period of time where I
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 5: feel like I watched I saw Converge live like every weekend,
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 5: to a point where I'm like I gonna stop seeing
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 5: Converge because I already know what this setlist by now.
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 5: But yeah, like I was really into them, but it
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 5: was just for like those there's like two albums that
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 5: they came out with around that time that I was
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 5: like heavy into them, and then I kind of trailed
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 5: off with them, but I know they stayed pretty relevant
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 5: build for a while for sure.
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there was kind of like the I remember, I
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 3: went through a little streak with like Between the Barry
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 3: to Me, you know, because those guys are like every
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 3: member between the Barry and Me has like masters and
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 3: music and all kinds of crazy shit. They like they're
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 3: like professors of music, and you listen to their shit,
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 3: You're like, I don't know what the fuck is happening.
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 3: The song is nine minutes long, and you know, nobody
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 3: is sang in sixteen minutes on this album. There's only
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 3: seven tracks. Like but like, you know, I remember when
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 3: Jent really got big and you had guys like Periphery
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 3: and all these bands doing it. I was like, oh,
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 3: I feel like this has been around before, and bands
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 3: like Volumes I saw.
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 4: A lot like oh dude, yeah, they were like the
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 4: innovators for.
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, michull Go was dominating. Man, I thought that the
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 3: I thought hardcore the scene was dead.
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 4: But have you have you do?
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 5: You follow it close on social media? It's like thriving
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 5: right now. It's crazy, Like well, I was gonna bring
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 5: these pages of like on Instagram, like dedicated to this ship.
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 5: You're like, wow, these shows are freaking pact and these
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 5: kids are going nuts, like yeah, those kids are violent
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 5: still like crazy.
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 3: I'm like, shit, yeah, it's it's funny man, because I
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 3: always tell my wife, you know, I remember seeing, for example,
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 3: Turnstyle in like a basement, you know, ten years ago,
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 3: back when they were releasing like gravity and NonStop Feeling
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 3: was coming out, and now you look at Turnstyle, they're
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 3: one of the biggest bands in the world, you know,
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 3: and they're their latest their latest album was Never Enough,
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 3: was fantastic, but I was like, it's still not you know.
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 3: They they're like every other song is like a semi
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 3: hardcore song and then in the middle is like some
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 3: weird low fi.
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 5: You know. Now, you guys, maybe you know this, Maybe
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 5: these guys want to be a Jersey band. I've been
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 5: really kicking back and listening to Heatown Concrete again I
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 5: think in a Jersey I think. But they're still if
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 5: you follow them on Instagram, they're still like really out there,
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 5: like doing shit, like putting on albums, like doing live shows.
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, I didn't even know these guys were
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 5: still around. But those those couple albums from back in
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 5: the day were just he was like a lot of
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 5: like that very heavy hardcore sounds like Hatebreed, but the
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 5: guy wraps. So that was basically so.
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 3: They're from North Jersey. They're from Elizabeth, so that's like
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 3: that would be to us. That's pretty much like New York,
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 3: you know. That's like you could see New York across
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 3: across the street kind of town. It's it was all interesting, man,
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 3: because like even North Like you see memes about North
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 3: Jersey versus South Jersey, especially, like you know, Sopranos is
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 3: North Jersey. South Jersey's the Woods. But we had two
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 3: totally different music scenes. Like South Jersey was we were
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 3: very known for like violent shows like the Pits were violent.
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 3: There was no such thing as like putting your arm
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 3: out to stop somebody from swinging on you. Like that
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 3: didn't exist in South Jersey. So I remember going to
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 3: shows up in North Jersey and you know, these guys
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 3: are like they have like rules. They're like, all right, yeah,
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 3: here's the bit, but then there's six inches where you
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 3: don't cross and you didn't it.
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 5: Takes turns too, and they do that one. Yeah, I go, yeah,
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 5: it was it was Yeah.
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 3: It was interesting man, because then a lot of those
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 3: a lot of those kids would come down for our
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 3: Warp tour that was in Camden, and you know, Warp
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 3: Tour I had like the no mo washing rules that
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 3: I see.
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 5: I don't remember. I mean because when I was going
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 5: to Warp Tour at that point, I was like kind
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 5: of already out of the scene, Like like there was
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 5: one show I went to I don't really could have
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 5: been kill Switch maybe or something. But I remember like
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 5: saying to myself, like I'm gonna go in, I'm gonna
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 5: pit it up just for all timestake, and I like
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 5: whipped like an arm and my shoulder came out of
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 5: socket and like I'm not getting like any happen anymore.
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 5: I'm out. It's none of this anymore. And I used
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 5: to like, I used to love it, dude.
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 3: My wife and I just saw last summer. We saw
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 3: Third Eye Blind and Yellow Card and we got two
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 3: songs in the Third Eye Blind set and or Are.
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 3: We were both like, our back is killing us. We're tired,
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 3: let's go home. We're like, dude, it was sad man,
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 3: I've been.
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 3: It's like you work all day and then you go
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 3: to this content and it's funny because you get to
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 3: a concert and you have, you know, a half hour
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 3: before the opener comes on. The opener plays a forty
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 3: five minutes set, then there's thirty minutes before Yellow Card
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 3: comes on. Yellow Card plays an hour set, and then
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 3: there's thirty minutes of setup before Third Eye Blind. You're
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 3: already four hours in.
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 5: Guests should wake up early to work, you know. Yeah,
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 5: we're like as a kid you were like, I'll stay
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 5: out all night. I don't care.
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, I don't know if I have time
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 3: to sit here for a ninety minute third eye blind set,
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 1: No, man, they got about six songs they got They just.
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 3: Really jump there over and over, y'all.
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 1: Do y'all remember this was one of my favorite songs
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 1: of all time. I Rate NYC Vendetta. They might remember that,
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 1: what's the band I rate? They're called Irate, but they're
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 1: no they go by I Rate NYC is kind of
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 1: what their band is. They have a song called Vendetta.
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 1: It's got the most aggressive, like meanest intro I've ever heard.
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 1: It was I They're popular, but they were never like
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 1: a really really big bad But my brother found them
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 1: back in two thousand and eight and we used to
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 1: listen to the song Vendetta all the time. It has
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 1: the best intro I've ever heard.
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 5: Dude. They great. You could find like a band that
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 5: like no one's ever heard of, and you're like, yeah,
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 5: this is sack. How do people do not know this?
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 1: Dude?
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 3: On Spotify they have so the number two most popular
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 3: song has three hundred and twenty eight thousand streams. Vendetta
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 3: Number one has two million.
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 1: Dude, listen to the intro. It's the most gangster shit
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 1: you'll ever hear.
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 3: It's amazing, My god. I mean, all of this relates. Listen, bro,
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 3: all of this relates to campground slashers.
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 3: I don't care what anybody says. This is Look, bro,
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 3: when you're sitting around a fire with some friends, there's
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 3: no rules. Yeah, we can do whatever we want.
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 1: Man, I missed that manly metal dude, Like it's I don't.
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 1: You don't hear any of that stuff on the radio anymore,
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 1: even the heavy stuff that's considered like heavy, like that
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 1: Ronnie Radkey guy and all that. Man, that's that's pussy stuff.
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 5: But you know what though, like they don't put The
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 5: problem is is they don't even that kind of music
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 5: doesn't exist unless you're searching for That's the problem. It's like,
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 5: I feel like everything like that turned the country now,
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 5: Like anything with guitars now is just you get country
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 5: and hip hop basically. That's all I hear. Yeah, I
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 5: like the rock scene doesn't exist When we were kids
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 5: and we had Marilyn Manson, this is none of that now.
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 1: We need it, man, that's why Headbanger's Ball was so awesome.
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 1: I would have never heard of Misery Signals had it
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 1: not been for Failsafe. With the song, I was thinking
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 1: of it's an amazing song. But yeah, I miss Headbanger's
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 1: Ball so bad.
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 3: You you have to you have to dig deep for it,
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 3: you know. I remember discovering within the last couple of years,
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 3: like Body Snatcher, Victims, a couple other groups that are
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 3: really heavy and really.
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 5: Like what about what about Gulch Gulch?
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 1: My brother there showed me a video. My brother showed me.
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, dude, you have to see these guys
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 1: on stage. They they purposely only put out a record
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 1: and then they knew they were gonna quit the band,
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 1: but they wanted to see how big they can make it.
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 1: They are the most great. They are the fastest hardcore
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 1: band ever, but it's not fast like punk. It's like
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 1: on crack cocaine. The drummer just goes dune, got Doom,
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 1: got dum got the entire song, and the singer literally
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 1: just runs back and forth. You never understand a word,
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 1: he says.
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 5: It's the crazy.
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 1: I'm in tears when my brother comes over the house
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 1: and he like he puts. He always puts the video up.
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 1: We cry laughing watching them. None of them wear shirts.
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 1: They all just got jeans with belts on. None of
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 1: them are really like strong. They're all just skinny dudes.
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 1: But it's the most meth crack, cocaine hardcore music I've
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 1: ever heard.
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 3: It's hysterical, dude, we have coulch bro I saw and
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know if any you guys ever heard of them.
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 3: I I saw a band at FDR skate Park called
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 3: bad Luck thirteen Ryot extravagant dude.
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 5: Bad Luck thirteen the guy with like the fucking like the.
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. These guys would bring barbed wire bats to
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 3: shows that passage.
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 5: I literally would almost wear like a like a KKK
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 5: hood basically like dude.
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 3: We So I saw them first at FDR right and
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 3: then we saw them. I was probably sixteen. We saw
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 3: them at a fire hall and you can find the
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 3: story they we we saw them. It was a fun show.
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 3: They The first thing they did the kind of like
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 3: rubbed us the wrong way.
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 1: Was there were bleachers.
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 3: There were bleachers in the fire hall, and they ripped
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 3: the bleachers out of the floor and flipped them and
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 3: people were on the bleachers and luckily like nobody got hurt, right,
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 3: but they really drew the line when they fucking lit
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 3: the firehouse on fire.
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, they were insane. It's funny because I used
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 5: to be part of the backyard wrestling organizay back in
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 5: the day, and that was like our theme song for
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 5: like our events was a bad Buck thirteen like dying
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 5: time is he here? Like whatever that song is or whatever. Yeah,
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 5: but yeah, they were freaking nuts, man, and going back,
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 5: Like I don't know a lot of the new stuff
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 5: like that's out now, But there was a band that
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 5: I found a couple of years ago. I don't know,
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 5: you might know them called Breakdown at Tiffany's. Have you
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 5: heard that band? Yep? Have you? And like I thought
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 5: it was so fascinating because I'm like, all it is
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 5: is just the breakdowns that everybody was waiting for in
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 5: the songs. But like that's just all it is, Like
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 5: it's just a breakdown from like Stark Tank.
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 3: They were one of those bands that nobody liked until
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 3: like years later and then we were all like, oh
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 3: yeah they were good, Like they we get to check
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 3: out the video, Christian, have you ever heard of them
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 3: called Eternal Lords.
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 5: It's it's just it's it's nuts did But it's like
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 5: one of those concepts where I'm like, why did anybody
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 5: else do this? But they just take the breakdown piece
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 5: of the songs that everybody dances to and just makes
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 5: it the whole song.
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 1: That's actually brilliant.
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 3: It was like I think it's like songs are just
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 3: the china and the snare, you know what I mean.
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 3: It's like all it is, it's all and he's.
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 5: Just singing in the back. It's wild. It's kind of cool.
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 5: I like the landscape changed a lot too, with like
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 5: crab Core when that came and like, what's the freaking
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 5: band there? Attack Attack dude. Like when that hit, it
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 5: was like so heavy and so badass. But then you
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 5: got like the the like the syth come in and
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 5: you're like, what the hell is going on here? It
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 5: was so different time and it's.
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 3: Funny because like a lot of those guys, you know,
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 3: I think his name is Frank the one singer now
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 3: he's Bill Murray. I don't know if you've heard of
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 3: the b I L m U R I. Yeah, yeah,
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 3: he's making it huge with Bill Murray and uh Oh
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 3: my god, what was his name? The second singer of
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 3: Attack Attack. Now he's a vocalist, Caleb Schowmo. He's a
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 3: vocalist of Bear Tooth.
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 5: See. I like, Beartooth came out and I was like,
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 5: already I've heard him, but I was already kind of
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 5: out of it at that point.
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 3: But the Beartooth is sick, yeah, and then you had
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 3: like being able to or something.
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 5: Like listen to.
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 1: It's just like you gotta have some structure, like they
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 1: just like or too and I hate happy hardcore. It's
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 1: the most stupid music I've ever heard in my life.
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 5: Like Suicide Silence came out, I was already out. They
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 5: were big when I was already out of it.
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 3: Like, well, you know what's funny. So first of all,
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 3: I just want to add the vocalist that I wrestled
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 3: a bear once is now the vocalist of spirit Box,
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 3: who is huge.
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 3: But I honestly to link this back to horror. The
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 3: amount of Horror references you'll find in a Doctor Acula song,
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 3: if you guys remember them, is out of Doctor Acula,
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 3: every single song is based on They have a whole
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 3: album where every title is a goose Bumps Book. They
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 3: have so many sound clips in their songs that I
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 3: didn't know were from Horror until later on I found
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 3: the movie. I was like, why did that sound familiar?
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 5: Like Doctor pre Ecestein's Kills or no oh.
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, way before Ice nine Kills Doctor Akila, they
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 3: were called and so do. It was kind of like, yeah,
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 3: it was kind of like grindcore, but they were so cool,
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 3: man like and they had so much fun with it too,
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 3: like everything they did and even dude, I love Icenine Kills.
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 1: I mean no, I I like Icenin Kills as well.
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I know a lot of people are
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 5: kind of like it's kind of silly and stupid, but
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 5: it's heavy man, it's it's it is. I'm big on
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 5: like I'm a big eighties hair guy. So like, if
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 5: you can take heavy music and add like these catchy
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 5: choruses like I'm all.
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 3: In, well, since Christian is doing that right now and
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 3: a thing look up Doctor Akila. I believe it's called
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 3: Say Cheese and Die and the Beginning or let me see,
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 3: I think it's Say Cheese.
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 5: That's a Goosebumps book right there.
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Say Cheese and Die or Sey Cheese and Die
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 3: Again has a The opening is from uh Friday thirteenth
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 3: Part four.
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 1: I think one of them.
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 3: Is uh A Friday. It opens with a Friday of
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 3: the thirteenth.
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 5: Bit.
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 3: They're they're they're wild, dude, look at him rocking out. Yeah,
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 3: they're they were cool man and even dude. I love
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 3: what Eistein Kills is doing with you know. I I've
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 3: been listening to them since the very beginning and to
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 3: see their evolution has been incredible, man. And you know,
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 3: Spencer's always at monster Mania now, and those guys get
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 3: a lot of love, you know.
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they they're from my area, so, like I remember
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 5: them when they were Like the first song I ever
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 5: heard from them was the acoustic version of a song
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 5: called Jonathan. If you guys know that one. That video
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 5: makes me breaking almost cry every time I see it.
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 5: With then they talked about his friend that like had
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 5: like a disease that he had been passing away a
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 5: couple of years ago. But then they had that album
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 5: with like they started toying with the horror ideas like
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 5: check going High, every trick in the book. I love
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 5: that album. Man. I think that that Jekyll and Hyde
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 5: song is still one of my favorites. That has Arry's
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 5: song and.
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 3: That has the Exorcist song a communing, Communing Curse, and
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 3: that's like one of my favorite songs on them of
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 3: all time.
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 5: Then they they went all in on the horror thing
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 5: after that, and I and I do I really enjoy
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 5: what they've done. I mean, I think it's impressive to
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 5: see how big they've gotten with doing it this way
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 5: and like they run. I don't know if you remember Boston,
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 5: there was a big convention quhrror for a long time
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 5: called Rock and Shock, which was like a heavy metal
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 5: and horror so it's like you it's a horror convention.
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 5: But then at night they would have heavy metal concerts,
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 5: so they'd always have like War would be there one night,
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 5: ICP would be on another night, and they'd have all
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 5: these different bands, like I saw Ice Night Kills there once.
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 5: You know, Motionless and White was there once.
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 3: In this is that the silver screen con now?
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 5: So now? Yeah, So Rock and Shot closed around twenty
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 5: twenty or twenty nineteen, and for a couple of years
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 5: there was nothing, and then Ice Night Kill Spencer's like
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna put one on and I'm gonna basically make
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 5: Rock and Shot again, but I'm gonna call it a
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 5: silver Screen con and that's his convention, same spot that
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 5: Rock and Shot was, and it's fucking great, man. Like
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 5: at they do that and then at night there's a
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 5: whole concert, so like they headline and then like last year,
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 5: I saw I Forget in this moment, I think open
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 5: for him a couple other bands, but like it's fun, man.
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 5: You go to the con during the day and then
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 5: at night you do the concert outside and it's it's cool, man.
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 5: So I'm always excitedly that, Like once a year, what do.
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 3: You listen to New Christian?
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 1: Uh, I've talked a lot of shit about Ice nine Kills,
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 1: but I was just I pulled up a song. I
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 1: was just listening to them because I don't like the
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 1: on the nose kind of stuff, like I don't like
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 1: being like I like dark imagery and stuff that's horror
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 1: esque like Madson and Cooper, and but I don't like
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 1: being sung to about Art the clown and all that.
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 1: So I just pulled up a song called American Nightmare
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 1: and I was.
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 5: Just listening to it. Oh, that's the freddie Kruger one.
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 5: Do you know you should do, dude, listen to it's
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 5: called I think it's like Doctor Jekyl and mister Hyde
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 5: or something. In Hide it's called But Yeah, it's pretty
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 5: sick because like what he does in that video, which
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 5: actually is what I really won me over with him,
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 5: is he he sings it, it goes in two ways,
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 5: like he's he's Jecky Goal and then he becomes Hide
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 5: and the same thing. So he's like kind of battling
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 5: back and forth, like the song gets nice and it's catchy,
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 5: and then it gets super heavy and then goes back
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 5: to being like catchy again.
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, me myself and Hide.
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 5: It's a great song man in that video of like
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 5: the lyrics and stuff going through the town, it's it's
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 5: fucking cool man, Like I just find it. It's got
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 5: some really it's heaviest shit, and it's also got a
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 5: lot of like catchiness to it. I always like kind
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 5: of love.
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 1: I'll give my shot, I'll give my shot.
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 5: I just you know what, you might enjoy that album
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 5: more because it was before they really dove straight in
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 5: to be like, Okay, this is the Jason song, this
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 5: is the American Psycho song. Like that album with like
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 5: he said, Communion of uh what is it in the
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 5: Communion of the Curse? And then Carrie was like hell
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 5: in the hallways and like that he jacquol and Hide
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 5: song like that was on an album that was like
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 5: they touched upon horror esque stuff, but they didn't go
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 5: all in yet. Like yeah, that following album was when
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 5: they went all in, like Silver Scream and all that stuff.
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll give him a shot. I just I never
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 1: really did, and I just started talking shit.
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 5: Let me let me the uh with them. I can
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 5: appreciate that they took something random and ran with it
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 5: and they became so big. Like fucking Spencer now is
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 5: like he's like in with like every single big name
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 5: in horror now, Like you ever see him like online
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 5: throwing like they're like he's like, oh Christmas Party and
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 5: it's like him fucking Barbara Crampton and like all these people.
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 5: I'm like, Jesus, he's like in with everybody.
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 1: Good for him. I mean, I'm sure i'd do the
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 1: same thing if I could.
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So let me ask you guys one final
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 3: question before we uh, before we put the fire out.
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 3: If you had to pick, he's got a really bag in.
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 5: No, I just want to.
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 3: I'm curious if you if you had to pick a
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 3: modern day director to take on a campground slasher. I
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 3: was I was thinking about this briefly for a minute
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 3: because I was thinking I would love to see like
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 3: a Tye West.
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 5: Ty West and already Astro are two people that I
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 5: just as of right now, It's like, I actually know
• 2:20:27
  Speaker 5: what ty West. I'm gonna say that. I mean, I
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 5: don't know how you guys feel, but X is one
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 5: of my favorites for the last couple of years, and
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 5: I just feel like I look at that and I'm like,
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 5: if he can do this, he could make a camp
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 5: slasher easily.
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 3: M Yeah, he's Steve.
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 4: What about you, man, I'm gonna go outside the box?
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 1: Is it?
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 4: Panos cast Mottos who did Beyond the Black Rainbow and Mandy.
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 4: I feel like I would just be interested to see
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 4: if it was like a little bit more like toned back,
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 4: but basically I feel like it would just, I don't know,
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 4: be something like very very out there and different.
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 3: Oh man, can imagine like the three D effect of
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 3: somebody like tripping out in a cabin, you know, like
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 3: Mandy when it Dude, it actually like kind of like
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 3: makes me a little sick when I'm watching Mandy and
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 3: it has the scene when it kind of like when
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 3: the cult leaders talking and it kind of splits and
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 3: it's like the multiple layers of him and it goes
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 3: on for like ten minutes. It feels like it's a
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 3: long man. That's a movie I don't love, but I admire.
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 3: You know, Christian, what about you?
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 1: What would you think for a for a campfire slasher film.
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 1: That's that's the specific question, right, Yeah, probably Fade Albarez,
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 1: even though he's not necessarily modern. I'd trust him.
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 3: Oh that's a good one man.
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 1: Or at a wing Guard, I'd let because I really
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 1: like the guest and the guest if he made it,
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 1: if he put that movie in the woods, you know.
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of Adam Winguard, I didn't know up until
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 3: last year when when Seconds I put out Your Next
• 2:22:13
  Speaker 3: that people hated that movie.
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 1: People hate everything.
• 2:22:17
  Speaker 5: They people people didn't want to I always though everybody
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 5: loved it.
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 3: No, yeah, that's what I thought too, And then I
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 3: remember when that came out, people are like, God, this
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 3: movie fucking sucks.
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 1: I'm like, it doesn't suck. It's a good movie.
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 3: In the theater, dude, Yeah, I think I did too.
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I I think I did. That's
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 3: a great movie. Man, That's a brutal one. It's not Campground,
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 3: but that's brutal. But I just want to say too,
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 3: as we as we kind of part Garrett, I love
• 2:22:46
  Speaker 3: what you guys are doing with the Anchor Bay Archives podcasts,
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 3: and I have to say my favorite part of it
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 3: is the community involvement over on the Instagram with the
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 3: collaborated post and stuff. You know, I was a little
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 3: I had a couple Anchor Bay DVDs when I was younger,
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 3: just out of like finding them somewhere, but you know,
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 3: I was a little late to actually collecting. And every
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 3: single time I see one of those posts come up,
• 2:23:14
  Speaker 3: I'm a mis like nostalgic for something I didn't experience,
• 2:23:18
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, How has that been for
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 3: you guys? Is kind of kicking this off so far?
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 5: It's good, you know, I think the hardest thing is
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 5: like anything, right, it's it's getting everybody together when they're
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 5: available to record and then edit down and so like.
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 5: As of right now, we've got the first pilot's done,
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 5: and then we've got two episodes that we're filming in
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 5: July or recording in July. One's gonna be kind of
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 5: a split episode. It'll be on the YouTube aspect. There's
• 2:23:48
  Speaker 5: gonna be one one part's gonna be on my channel,
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 5: one parts on his channel, and then if you listen
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 5: to it on the audio, it's going to be all
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 5: connected together. So we got that coming up, and then
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 5: we're actually got one with an interview with a guy
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 5: who actually was a designer for a lot of the
• 2:24:05
  Speaker 5: cool shit, Like he's the one who designed like the
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 5: Book of the Dead that is now falling apart all
• 2:24:10
  Speaker 5: over the place. So I mean, you know, to have
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 5: on a YouTube aspect part of it, you're gonna be
• 2:24:16
  Speaker 5: able to see pictures of like the design and the
• 2:24:20
  Speaker 5: images before he made it on like the ideas, and
• 2:24:23
  Speaker 5: so we're going to talk a lot more about like
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 5: behind the scenes of like building some of these packages,
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 5: like you know, what the thought went behind on like
• 2:24:30
  Speaker 5: the cool near dark tradition and stuff like that. So
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 5: it's cool. I mean I think that you know, coming
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 5: up with the idea of the Facebook group, I mean
• 2:24:37
  Speaker 5: of the Instagram post page. That was my idea because
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 5: it's you know, the hardest thing with you know, doing
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 5: social media is being able to kind of take time
• 2:24:47
  Speaker 5: with everything and like you know, post here, post there.
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 5: It's like a part time job really, and that was
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 5: like a hard thing for Like with the rat Pack,
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 5: it's like we wanted to have presence on an Instagram
• 2:24:56
  Speaker 5: and it was like hard because then you're trying to
• 2:24:58
  Speaker 5: run your own page and then try do that. Where
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 5: with the Anchor Bay thing, I was like, you know what,
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 5: like we're gonna get collectors involved here, like let's do
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 5: it this way and basically just have everybody build the
• 2:25:07
  Speaker 5: page basically right, Like that's what it really is. It's
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 5: like I don't have to post. All I gotta do
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 5: is if I post anything Anchor Bay, I just collaborate.
• 2:25:15
  Speaker 5: It goes to that page and then everybody else who
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 5: wants to be involved and have their name connected to
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 5: the Anchor Bay Archives page will just add us collaborator
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 5: And all of a sudden, now that page has three
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 5: hundred and fifty followers, like within like the first month
• 2:25:29
  Speaker 5: right now, and it's got you know, fifty to one
• 2:25:32
  Speaker 5: hundred posts, and I post probably five of them. So
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 5: it was the idea of like it's a community aspect
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 5: of course, and then people can go through and sometimes
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 5: people will showcase something. I'll be like, oh shit, I
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 5: don't even know that existed, so that's cool, Like let
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 5: me look that up and whatever. And I think it's
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 5: cool to kind of get people together to showcase some
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 5: of their stuff. And it's really selfishly. It's it's building
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 5: building an Instagram page for me that I don't have
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 5: to do. It's kind of huge though.
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 3: It's really hard, man. I mean I think I think,
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I love, I love my Instagram page, you know,
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 3: I love I love trying to take you know, unique
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 3: photos and trying to do like cool reels and stuff.
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 3: You know, I love that, and it's it's hard to
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 3: kind of like find the balance of like, let me
• 2:26:18
  Speaker 3: put time into my page and then you know, we
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 3: need to create stuff for the beyond the blood page.
• 2:26:23
  Speaker 3: And you know, when you start something like that, you
• 2:26:25
  Speaker 3: only have a small percentage of the people that actually
• 2:26:28
  Speaker 3: follow over to that. And then you reach a point
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 3: where you're like, you're like, man, like me and Steve
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 3: on followers alone. You know, we have access to over
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 3: ten thousand people together, and I'm like that using our
• 2:26:42
  Speaker 3: personal pages for it gives it a lot more eyes,
• 2:26:46
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And so it's something we're
• 2:26:48
  Speaker 3: always trying to trying to tackle.
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 5: But it's it's very hard. Man Like again, like the
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 5: rat Pack thing started out super hot the first like
• 2:26:59
  Speaker 5: year and a half point, where we're like, you know what, like,
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 5: let's let's give it its own YouTube channel, let's give
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 5: it its own brand, let's do it this way, and
• 2:27:06
  Speaker 5: we'll kind of work together on it instead of it
• 2:27:08
  Speaker 5: just being online, like let's do its own thing. And
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 5: we kind of came to that decision to do it
• 2:27:12
  Speaker 5: that way, and I don't, you know, looking back on
• 2:27:14
  Speaker 5: it now, I don't know if that was the smartest
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 5: thing to do or not, because the getting people over
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 5: there was a lot harder than I would expect it, right,
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 5: Like you're you're talking. You have three content creators with
• 2:27:29
  Speaker 5: like a total of fifty thousand subscribers together, and the
• 2:27:35
  Speaker 5: rad Pack YouTube channel after like two years is like
• 2:27:38
  Speaker 5: fifteen hundred, right, Like, so it's like the carryover is
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 5: not as simple as you would think it is, you
• 2:27:44
  Speaker 5: know in hindsight, where you know, if I would have
• 2:27:47
  Speaker 5: just kept it on my page, it would have gotten
• 2:27:49
  Speaker 5: a lot more eyeballs, It would have gone on more
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 5: views based on what I'm usually doing from my page alone,
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 5: but when you go over to there, it's, you know,
• 2:27:56
  Speaker 5: it was good and bad. Like let's say we had
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 5: a thousand subs, we might get a thousand views, and
• 2:28:01
  Speaker 5: if you look at it that way, it kind of like,
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 5: holy shit, that's like a really good thing. But building
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 5: it into finding more people has been a challenge. So
• 2:28:10
  Speaker 5: totally understandable when it comes to trying to juggle multiple socials,
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 5: especially on the same platform, as is time consuming one
• 2:28:18
  Speaker 5: because the more time you spend on a platform, the
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 5: better you do. And if you it just it just
• 2:28:22
  Speaker 5: is what it is.
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 5: I wish I spent I had more time to spend
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 5: on YouTube and put out more videos because I know
• 2:28:28
  Speaker 5: that would help the channel out. But that's where I
• 2:28:30
  Speaker 5: give Christian like so much credit every single time we
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 5: talk about content creation, Like I don't know how he
• 2:28:36
  Speaker 5: does it. I mean, I kind of know how he
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 5: does it, but it's impressive because I'm putting out a
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 5: video tomorrow which will be up you know when this
• 2:28:43
  Speaker 5: comes out, But you know, just alone, it was a
• 2:28:46
  Speaker 5: day of recording and a day of editing and then uploading,
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 5: like it's it's not it's you know, it's not that quick.
• 2:28:51
  Speaker 5: Like sometimes if I can't edit at work, right, I
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 5: don't sit down during the day, So if I have
• 2:28:56
  Speaker 5: to edit, it's going to be during times that you know,
• 2:28:58
  Speaker 5: I could be recording more done for I could be
• 2:29:00
  Speaker 5: live or whatever. So I give him all the credit
• 2:29:03
  Speaker 5: in the world that he's been able to keep long
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 5: form content like on a regular basis like that. But yeah,
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 5: it's hard, man. It's hard to juggle everything, and I
• 2:29:11
  Speaker 5: think you really have to probably just pick and choose,
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 5: like where you're getting the most bang for your buck.
• 2:29:16
  Speaker 5: And I think, like you said, you've done the YouTube thing,
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 5: You've done this your Instagram think like people love it.
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 5: But you can see that, right, you can see it's different.
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 5: It's not like everybody else's. It's that to a point
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 5: where I think a lot of people are trying to
• 2:29:28
  Speaker 5: mimic it in a sense.
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 3: It's it's really hard, man, because you know, the podcast,
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 3: like Instagram is such a trackable platform, like you can
• 2:29:37
  Speaker 3: see what looks, what works, what doesn't the podcast. You know,
• 2:29:41
  Speaker 3: we were very lucky to come into the second half
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 3: of the year signing to a production company that is
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 3: like manufacturing bonus features, like actively there are physical media
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 3: releases coming out that hour, like the podcast network we're
• 2:29:56
  Speaker 3: on is producing those bonus features for and you know,
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 3: we we opened up to a whole new audience when
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 3: we made that that jump, and we can't track it
• 2:30:06
  Speaker 3: as accurately because now we're available on every platform in
• 2:30:11
  Speaker 3: the world for for podcasts, and you know, the only
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 3: word we got was like, hey, you know, the episode,
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 3: the first episode you guys put out got over a
• 2:30:19
  Speaker 3: thousand downloads on these platforms whatever. So it's it's much
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 3: harder to track, you know. We just kind of have
• 2:30:26
  Speaker 3: to hope that, you know. And even even Ryan you know,
• 2:30:30
  Speaker 3: who runs our production company, he's like, dude, you guys
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 3: could have you know, hundreds of thousands of streams and
• 2:30:35
  Speaker 3: we would never really truly know. He's like, so it
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 3: comes down to, like, uh, I follow a lot of
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 3: people who podcasts, but I don't follow their podcast because
• 2:30:45
  Speaker 3: I listened to their podcast because of them, so I
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 3: follow them. And that's kind of what the challenge is
• 2:30:52
  Speaker 3: now at this point is it's like do we do
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 3: we separate it, make the podcast its thing, or do
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 3: we integrate the podcast with what we already. Do you
• 2:30:59
  Speaker 3: know thieves crushing it over on Instagram with everything he does,
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 3: and it's a it's a constant thing, man. So you
• 2:31:07
  Speaker 3: know when you when you guys started doing Anchor Bay archives,
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 3: you know, I really admired your approach and you know,
• 2:31:13
  Speaker 3: everything Christian does I heavily admire. The guy works harder
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 3: than I think anybody ever met in my life. So
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 3: keep this roll, keep this rolling for a second. I
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 3: have to step away real fasts.
• 2:31:24
  Speaker 5: Yes, Christian, explain yourself how.
• 2:31:27
  Speaker 1: You work trucks, trucks, lots of trucks.
• 2:31:35
  Speaker 5: On drugs.
• 2:31:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, drugs, lots and lots of drugs.
• 2:31:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Man, I feel like your work ethic is like unmatched.
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna bullshit. I'm just trying to make something
• 2:31:47
  Speaker 1: on myself, I guess, you know. So I'm working hard
• 2:31:50
  Speaker 1: today to try to get the fruits of my labor tomorrow.
• 2:31:54
  Speaker 4: You know, when when did like the uptick in in
• 2:31:58
  Speaker 4: the amount of like content that your out there, because
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 4: I felt like you were like always consistent, but I
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 4: felt like there was like at one point I felt
• 2:32:04
  Speaker 4: like it just like really kind of kind of ramped
• 2:32:08
  Speaker 4: up to that next level with like how frequently you
• 2:32:11
  Speaker 4: were like uploading stuff.
• 2:32:14
  Speaker 1: Uh, it wasn't you mean, when did I start uploading consistent?
• 2:32:18
  Speaker 5: It was? I agree, there was a point of time
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 5: when you went from like I'm gonna do two to
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 5: three videos a week to daily like there was a point. Yeah,
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 5: you've been You've stuck with it, which is even more
• 2:32:27
  Speaker 5: impressive that.
• 2:32:28
  Speaker 4: You know you do the shortness too, you do like
• 2:32:31
  Speaker 4: the long form. Oh sorry, Eric, I don't know that,
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 4: but I was just saying, like you you were doing
• 2:32:37
  Speaker 4: like the long form content and then also the shorts
• 2:32:40
  Speaker 4: on top that you've been very consistent with with that
• 2:32:42
  Speaker 4: across the board, which is is very impressive. H you know,
• 2:32:46
  Speaker 4: for the duration of time you've been doing it.
• 2:32:51
  Speaker 1: So the reality is, one day I was looking at
• 2:32:54
  Speaker 1: some of some YouTube channels that were not as old
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 1: as mine or people that were doing it, and I've
• 2:33:00
  Speaker 1: found myself being really aggravated and pessimistic and asking why
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 1: are they doing better than me? And I look myself
• 2:33:07
  Speaker 1: in the mirror and I said, are you actually doing
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 1: the best you can? And I said no. So I'm
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 1: not gonna rely on getting lucky or trying to go viral.
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna just I said, I'm gonna I'm I'm either
• 2:33:19
  Speaker 1: gonna do this and succeed slowly, uh, or I'm gonna
• 2:33:23
  Speaker 1: quit because it's not worth doing this if it's gonna
• 2:33:28
  Speaker 1: make me upset and be jealous of people, because the
• 2:33:32
  Speaker 1: reality is, you don't see what people are doing behind
• 2:33:35
  Speaker 1: the scenes. You don't. You just you see their videos
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 1: and you see their subcomp but you don't know their story.
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 1: You don't know what they're going through, how hard they're working,
• 2:33:42
  Speaker 1: or what they're doing. So I decided to stop being pessimistic,
• 2:33:45
  Speaker 1: and I stopped. I decided to stop blaming other people
• 2:33:48
  Speaker 1: for my own problems, and I started working. I started.
• 2:33:52
  Speaker 1: I remember telling my wife, Hey, I'm gonna be a
• 2:33:53
  Speaker 1: little bit busier, but I promise it's gonna be worth it,
• 2:33:57
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna work really hard. So it's silly as
• 2:34:00
  Speaker 1: it sounds. I went from having about eight thousand subs
• 2:34:06
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty to hopefully I'll have forty thousand before
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 1: the summer's over. And I never got I never got lucky.
• 2:34:13
  Speaker 1: I don't go viral. I just work really hard and
• 2:34:16
  Speaker 1: I do the best I can, and I keep my
• 2:34:18
  Speaker 1: mouth shut and I don't I don't, I don't you know,
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 1: I keep my mouth shut and I work. I don't
• 2:34:24
  Speaker 1: talk shit about people's YouTube channels anymore unless they really
• 2:34:27
  Speaker 1: deserve it, you know. But that's really all it is.
• 2:34:31
  Speaker 1: That's honestly what it is, man, Because I've been I
• 2:34:33
  Speaker 1: should be farther along than I am. That's the reality.
• 2:34:36
  Speaker 1: I should be where Pizzole is at. And I say
• 2:34:40
  Speaker 1: this with utmost respect because I love him. I'm gonna
• 2:34:42
  Speaker 1: pass him one day because I'm not stopping, you know.
• 2:34:45
  Speaker 1: And I want to bring my friends with me. I'm
• 2:34:47
  Speaker 1: not somebody that wants to be like fuck all this now.
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 1: I want to I want my friends to do good.
• 2:34:52
  Speaker 3: I really do.
• 2:34:53
  Speaker 1: That's why I'll bug Garrett before I was like hey, shorts,
• 2:34:56
  Speaker 1: short shorts, post post post, you know, because I want
• 2:34:59
  Speaker 1: him to do really good too. I want you to
• 2:35:01
  Speaker 1: do good. It's not a competition, you know. It's really
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 1: not a competition. We can all succeed, you know.
• 2:35:06
  Speaker 3: It just depends on how hard.
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 4: You work well, especially because I remember last summer coming
• 2:35:11
  Speaker 4: to you guys and trying to get like feedback as
• 2:35:13
  Speaker 4: far as like, because I felt very overwhelmed and where
• 2:35:16
  Speaker 4: to start, like what to do or how to go
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 4: about it, and I remember you guys were like very like, hey,
• 2:35:21
  Speaker 4: this is like what's what's worked for us, or like
• 2:35:23
  Speaker 4: here's some tips to like get started. And it's like,
• 2:35:26
  Speaker 4: I don't know's that's more than like most people, I
• 2:35:28
  Speaker 4: feel like would be you know, a little bit more
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 4: open to discussing. So again, I always got to have
• 2:35:33
  Speaker 4: to give you guys credit because I appreciate that on
• 2:35:36
  Speaker 4: so many levels.
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 5: For sure, I appreciate it. I mean I say this
• 2:35:39
  Speaker 5: all the time when if some reason, people always put
• 2:35:41
  Speaker 5: me in the same category as Christian. It's always me
• 2:35:43
  Speaker 5: and Christian, and I find and I'm very honored with
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 5: that because I'm like, he's to me, he's an og
• 2:35:47
  Speaker 5: and I'm still kind of like, you know, like no,
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 5: I'm not new anymore. That's a funny thing. Like I'm
• 2:35:52
  Speaker 5: like five years in so like a lot of new
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 5: people are coming to me like I'm supposed to be.
• 2:35:55
  Speaker 5: I'm like this veteran and stuff like that. But it is,
• 2:35:58
  Speaker 5: it's it's to see how hard he works and what
• 2:36:00
  Speaker 5: he's doing, and people always put us in the same category.
• 2:36:03
  Speaker 5: It means a lot to me because I know how
• 2:36:05
  Speaker 5: much he puts in and I'm like if people put
• 2:36:07
  Speaker 5: me on the same level as him. You know, I'm
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 5: obviously super honored for that. And I think, like he said,
• 2:36:13
  Speaker 5: he's right, like I'm man, you treat me good, dude,
• 2:36:16
  Speaker 5: and I'm you know, I get your back anytime. And
• 2:36:18
  Speaker 5: people need advice to talk. It's like I love I
• 2:36:20
  Speaker 5: love helping others. I mean, that's kind of what I
• 2:36:22
  Speaker 5: do in my job, right, so and seeing and helping
• 2:36:26
  Speaker 5: other people become better versions of themselves, it's what I do,
• 2:36:29
  Speaker 5: So that becomes natural to me. If someone comes to
• 2:36:30
  Speaker 5: me with a question or needs help, I would never
• 2:36:33
  Speaker 5: I don't care if I have three hundred thousand subscribers.
• 2:36:36
  Speaker 5: Someone comes at me with concerns and is cool about it,
• 2:36:40
  Speaker 5: and I'm more than happy to give them advice. And sometimes,
• 2:36:43
  Speaker 5: like Christian said, the advice is not even anything crazy, right,
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 5: It's not gonna take us a lot of time. Here's
• 2:36:49
  Speaker 5: exactly what you gotta do a lot of it is
• 2:36:51
  Speaker 5: just like he said, it's just be consistent. Consistencies. And
• 2:36:56
  Speaker 5: I even look at myself and say, I'm not consistent enough.
• 2:36:59
  Speaker 5: And that's where I think is hurting me in some aspects,
• 2:37:01
  Speaker 5: is like I need to be more consistent. I need
• 2:37:03
  Speaker 5: to find a way to become more consistent. Maybe I'm
• 2:37:06
  Speaker 5: working hard or not smarter. Maybe maybe I don't need
• 2:37:09
  Speaker 5: to edit as much as I'm doing and add clips
• 2:37:11
  Speaker 5: in there. Maybe I don't. That doesn't need to be
• 2:37:12
  Speaker 5: in my thing. If it's gonna be if it's gonna
• 2:37:14
  Speaker 5: take more time for me to record another video, maybe
• 2:37:16
  Speaker 5: I just do it and enroll, you know, like I'm
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 5: still kind of learning that kind of stuff. But no
• 2:37:21
  Speaker 5: matter what, I will say when it comes to me,
• 2:37:24
  Speaker 5: like I'd never if I put on one video a
• 2:37:27
  Speaker 5: week or five videos a week, you'll never get half
• 2:37:29
  Speaker 5: assed broaducter content for me, I just won't do it.
• 2:37:32
  Speaker 4: It's not well, I will say either way, like I
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 4: always look, I genuinely do always look forward to checking
• 2:37:38
  Speaker 4: your guys's content out. It's herry to me, it's very inspiring,
• 2:37:41
  Speaker 4: and you know, I always strive to be better, like
• 2:37:45
  Speaker 4: when it comes to this, and I don't know, it's
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 4: just it's just cool. And you guys have very very
• 2:37:50
  Speaker 4: like similar tastes of you and like have music but movies. Yeah,
• 2:37:54
  Speaker 4: I guess music too, but but yeah, I don't know.
• 2:37:57
  Speaker 5: It's free. Now.
• 2:37:58
  Speaker 1: I get a lot of comments sometimes where people I
• 2:38:01
  Speaker 1: don't go out of my way to tell Garrett this,
• 2:38:03
  Speaker 1: but there's a lot of people that will message me
• 2:38:05
  Speaker 1: and say I love this blah blah blah. And you
• 2:38:07
  Speaker 1: and Garrett made me get into most of the time
• 2:38:10
  Speaker 1: at tank or Bay and you know, so we did. Yeah,
• 2:38:14
  Speaker 1: we have similar tastes, that's for sure. I think. I
• 2:38:17
  Speaker 1: think in a in an alternate universe we grew we
• 2:38:19
  Speaker 1: were friends in like a different world because we are
• 2:38:22
  Speaker 1: very similar.
• 2:38:23
  Speaker 3: It's funny because I remember I remember starting my Instagram
• 2:38:28
  Speaker 3: and stuff and like following you guys. Now it's kind
• 2:38:32
  Speaker 3: of funny because I'm like I can call you guys friends,
• 2:38:35
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
• 2:38:36
  Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, but none of it like Eve even
• 2:38:42
  Speaker 5: dead Pit though, Like I was listening to those guys
• 2:38:44
  Speaker 5: in my parents' house in my room on right couch,
• 2:38:48
  Speaker 5: writing down ship that they were saying about certain movies
• 2:38:51
  Speaker 5: and then going and buying them. Never in a thousand
• 2:38:53
  Speaker 5: years did I ever think that I'd be like doing
• 2:38:56
  Speaker 5: collapse with them on YouTube. Like it just never would
• 2:38:58
  Speaker 5: have like anything my realm. And it was just kind
• 2:39:01
  Speaker 5: of weird how things all ald worked out, and people
• 2:39:03
  Speaker 5: are a lot more accessible now when you get on
• 2:39:05
  Speaker 5: a platform like Instagram or whatever. Like it's crazy to
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 5: think how much accessibility you had to somebody where for
• 2:39:11
  Speaker 5: all this, you like, how would I ever.
• 2:39:12
  Speaker 1: Talk to listeners exactly?
• 2:39:14
  Speaker 5: It's beautiful.
• 2:39:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just want to say sorry, I
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 3: had to step way real quickly, had an apartment emergency.
• 2:39:19
  Speaker 3: But I just want to say that this episode. I
• 2:39:24
  Speaker 3: I fucking love the direction it went. I've loved the
• 2:39:29
  Speaker 3: last hour talk about music. I genuinely it's funny because
• 2:39:32
  Speaker 3: like I had a moment where I was like, is
• 2:39:35
  Speaker 3: this kind of going off the rails? And I was like, no,
• 2:39:36
  Speaker 3: this kind of seems like a bunch of guys sitting
• 2:39:38
  Speaker 3: around a campfire, you know what I mean. Like it
• 2:39:40
  Speaker 3: just went into different directions. So you know, I really
• 2:39:44
  Speaker 3: appreciate this from you guys. You know, it's it's kind
• 2:39:50
  Speaker 3: of incredible. Like like we said, you know, we're all
• 2:39:53
  Speaker 3: kind of trying to do the same thing on different levels,
• 2:39:55
  Speaker 3: and you know, it's it's really kind of full circle
• 2:39:58
  Speaker 3: to say, like people I watched are now guests on
• 2:40:03
  Speaker 3: our podcast. Something that we thought up, something that we
• 2:40:06
  Speaker 3: brought to life.
• 2:40:07
  Speaker 1: You know, so well you remember what I told you
• 2:40:09
  Speaker 1: when I came on last time, I said, I'm so
• 2:40:11
  Speaker 1: impressed that all of you guys have headphones in the
• 2:40:13
  Speaker 1: ear end.
• 2:40:14
  Speaker 3: Microphones, you know, like it guess compliment in the world.
• 2:40:19
  Speaker 1: It should. The sad thing is it shouldn't be a
• 2:40:20
  Speaker 1: big compliment. But if you have headphones and a microphone,
• 2:40:24
  Speaker 1: I will do your podcast anytime.
• 2:40:28
  Speaker 3: You know, well, you know, at this point, it's it's
• 2:40:32
  Speaker 3: really like, I think this, this idea was was so
• 2:40:38
  Speaker 3: far from I was like, I was like, I don't
• 2:40:40
  Speaker 3: know who who's ever gonna listen to this. I don't
• 2:40:42
  Speaker 3: know who's gonna do it, you know, I don't know
• 2:40:45
  Speaker 3: how this is gonna work. And now you know, we're
• 2:40:47
  Speaker 3: six months in and it's like, you know, we just
• 2:40:49
  Speaker 3: had a meeting last night and we have opportunities coming
• 2:40:53
  Speaker 3: up that are like absolutely mind blowing. I'm like, holy shit,
• 2:40:57
  Speaker 3: this thing's fucking working. Like it's a ridiculous feeling.
• 2:41:02
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 2:41:02
  Speaker 3: It's kind of like you know, when you I remember,
• 2:41:07
  Speaker 3: I remember like kind of like creating this idea and
• 2:41:11
  Speaker 3: I was like, ah, it'd be really cool if this
• 2:41:14
  Speaker 3: happened to be cool if that happened, And then here
• 2:41:16
  Speaker 3: we are and that's already happened. We're already moving on
• 2:41:19
  Speaker 3: to beyond that, so it's pretty I'm so happy for you.
• 2:41:23
  Speaker 1: It's Chris. I've had this, I had this moment. I've
• 2:41:26
  Speaker 1: talked about this with some of my close friends, and
• 2:41:30
  Speaker 1: we have the ability. As silly as this sounds, we
• 2:41:34
  Speaker 1: have the ability to change our own lives with this.
• 2:41:38
  Speaker 1: We really do. I think there can be a day
• 2:41:42
  Speaker 1: where the shows that we do get big enough and
• 2:41:48
  Speaker 1: enough people that see us. There can be a day
• 2:41:50
  Speaker 1: where I can see you guys, and I know this
• 2:41:53
  Speaker 1: sounds ridiculous, but we could be on the other side
• 2:41:55
  Speaker 1: of a table at a convention. I truly, in my
• 2:41:58
  Speaker 1: heart believe it, like I know it's going to happen.
• 2:42:02
  Speaker 1: That's why I refuse to stop. I want to change
• 2:42:04
  Speaker 1: my own life, like I don't want to go to
• 2:42:07
  Speaker 1: the I don't want to die with any regrets. So
• 2:42:09
  Speaker 1: like I really I believe in my heart that I
• 2:42:11
  Speaker 1: can do this, and I want my friends to do
• 2:42:14
  Speaker 1: it with me. I really do. I want everybody to
• 2:42:16
  Speaker 1: do it. So I'm not quitting. And it's I'm glad
• 2:42:19
  Speaker 1: to hear that, because you really do get what you
• 2:42:22
  Speaker 1: put into it, but people don't realize what you're putting
• 2:42:25
  Speaker 1: in half the time just isn't enough. It sucks, dude.
• 2:42:29
  Speaker 1: I hate doing this sometimes, I really do. It's annoying.
• 2:42:34
  Speaker 1: But every day, if you're every day should be the
• 2:42:37
  Speaker 1: highest number of fans subscribers you have. If you're not growing,
• 2:42:42
  Speaker 1: you are dying every single day. And don't be ashamed
• 2:42:46
  Speaker 1: or don't be afraid to talk about anything or or
• 2:42:51
  Speaker 1: or record something because even if it doesn't do good,
• 2:42:54
  Speaker 1: that's still fifty more views than you had if you
• 2:42:56
  Speaker 1: didn't post it. That's the biggest thing I try to
• 2:42:59
  Speaker 1: get through people's head.
• 2:43:00
  Speaker 5: It's yeah, you know, yeah, there's a lot that goes
• 2:43:03
  Speaker 5: into it. Overthinking is one patience consistency. I think everybody,
• 2:43:08
  Speaker 5: like he said, like you know, they're there. I'm in
• 2:43:11
  Speaker 5: a different in a different way. Like I look at
• 2:43:13
  Speaker 5: myself and say, you're not consistent enough, dude, Like that's
• 2:43:15
  Speaker 5: that's your thing. You've gotta find a time. I don't
• 2:43:18
  Speaker 5: care if it's eleven thirty at night. You got to
• 2:43:19
  Speaker 5: you gotta do something to a film. You gotta do.
• 2:43:21
  Speaker 5: That's why a lot of times I'll come on live
• 2:43:23
  Speaker 5: at like quarter of midnight because it's like the only
• 2:43:26
  Speaker 5: time I had to, like get it in, you know,
• 2:43:27
  Speaker 5: because it's like there's other things I still do, Like
• 2:43:29
  Speaker 5: I got a family, I gotta do the gym, like
• 2:43:32
  Speaker 5: I gotta get a workout in. I can't lose that,
• 2:43:33
  Speaker 5: you know. There's so much that I have to do
• 2:43:35
  Speaker 5: before I can get this in. But but with me,
• 2:43:40
  Speaker 5: it feels so natural and it feels so right that
• 2:43:43
  Speaker 5: it's like I feel like he said, there's something here
• 2:43:47
  Speaker 5: that I feel like, is is I'm supposed to be
• 2:43:50
  Speaker 5: doing this for some reason. May I may not know
• 2:43:52
  Speaker 5: why now, but I think that if I just stay consistent,
• 2:43:56
  Speaker 5: that that answer is gonna come someday. And I just
• 2:43:59
  Speaker 5: have to keep on this because it, you know, they're
• 2:44:02
  Speaker 5: just like on Tuesdays is when I usually go live
• 2:44:04
  Speaker 5: late at night usually, but it's like that day I work.
• 2:44:08
  Speaker 5: I get up at three thirty in the morning, I
• 2:44:10
  Speaker 5: work till five, I come I go get my son,
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  Speaker 5: I come home, have dinner, go to my uncle's house
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  Speaker 5: at eight, work out till nine thirty, come home, eat again,
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  Speaker 5: get myself together, shower, and then I'm hopping on here
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  Speaker 5: at eleven thirty. Eleven eleven thirty. That's a long ass day.
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  Speaker 5: But as soon as I hit this button and I
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  Speaker 5: come on here and I see people popping on a
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  Speaker 5: live scream. I'm I'm more energized than I was the
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  Speaker 5: whole day. You know, I pass quenty and it's like
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  Speaker 5: it that's why. To me, it's kind of like, I
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  Speaker 5: could fucking do this my eyes closed. I just need
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  Speaker 5: to get I need to get that audience in front
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  Speaker 5: of it somewhere. And I just feel like, if you
• 2:44:42
  Speaker 5: are doing this and I know you've tried YouTube thing
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  Speaker 5: and you kind of wire like I'm stressed out about it.
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  Speaker 5: It's working. I like it, I don't like it. And
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  Speaker 5: then you found the podcast thing. You if you say
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  Speaker 5: to yourself, right now this feels right, then you got
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  Speaker 5: to just keep running. There's not enough things in life
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  Speaker 5: that feel right.
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  Speaker 3: I feel that's what it was. And I remember I
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  Speaker 3: remember talking to or I remember going on a live.
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  Speaker 3: I think Daniel from the cobleb Of channel was on
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  Speaker 3: a live and I just popped in and I said
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  Speaker 3: what's up, and he like, right in the middle of
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  Speaker 3: the stream, was like, dude, I saw your YouTube video,
• 2:45:17
  Speaker 3: like it sucks that you're leaving. He's like, but the
• 2:45:20
  Speaker 3: moment you said, he's like, right before you said you
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  Speaker 3: were gonna announce a podcasts. He's like, I thought to myself,
• 2:45:25
  Speaker 3: this guy would do fucking great on a podcast. He's like,
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  Speaker 3: and then you said you're gonna go do a podcast
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  Speaker 3: And it felt of everything I've ever pursued as far
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  Speaker 3: as this stuff goes. It was the thing that I
• 2:45:36
  Speaker 3: was like, this, this feels right. And now every episode
• 2:45:40
  Speaker 3: we sit down to do, every every time me and
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  Speaker 3: Steve talk about what's going on, which is every day,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's it just all feels right, and I
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  Speaker 3: don't second guess anything, you know, And at this point
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  Speaker 3: it's we're in the grind of just making it happen
• 2:45:57
  Speaker 3: day and day out, and you know, I'm that to
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  Speaker 3: tell people about the show is like a it's a
• 2:46:04
  Speaker 3: it's a huge sense of pride, you know, and it
• 2:46:07
  Speaker 3: absolutely so, you know, And and it was cool to
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  Speaker 3: have an idea that was unique enough, like how do
• 2:46:13
  Speaker 3: we talk about movies deeper? Oh, we'll dive into the
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  Speaker 3: commentary because it's like, who the fuck listens to commentaries anymore?
• 2:46:19
  Speaker 3: You know, we do, but like, yeah, you know, I
• 2:46:22
  Speaker 3: know we've We've gotten multiple messages from people that are like, dude,
• 2:46:25
  Speaker 3: I've never listened to a commentary before, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: now I did, and it's a new thing. So we'll
• 2:46:31
  Speaker 3: see what comes with it one day. You know, for now,
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  Speaker 3: there really is no goal. It's just kind of keep
• 2:46:35
  Speaker 3: doing this thing and and keep growing it. That's all
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm honest, what's your schedule?
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  Speaker 5: Like, how you guys doing a show a week to
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  Speaker 5: show a month? How do you guys rock it?
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  Speaker 3: So season season two is gonna be a whole nother animal.
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  Speaker 3: So every month is themed around whatever movie. So August
• 2:46:54
  Speaker 3: we're doing the Texas Chains. I'm asker. So we will
• 2:46:57
  Speaker 3: have the first week of August our our episode with
• 2:47:00
  Speaker 3: the commentary will come out. Second week of August. We
• 2:47:05
  Speaker 3: have an interview with I wish forget his last name,
• 2:47:08
  Speaker 3: his names to him. He's wrote he's written two books
• 2:47:10
  Speaker 3: about the Texas chancel on Mascer. We have him coming
• 2:47:12
  Speaker 3: on the third week, we're going to have a guest on.
• 2:47:17
  Speaker 3: We're going to do a Texas Chaincelascer ranking. We were
• 2:47:20
  Speaker 3: trying to get the owner of second site to come
• 2:47:25
  Speaker 3: on and talk about that release. But we're kind of
• 2:47:28
  Speaker 3: we're trying to see who we can get a hold
• 2:47:29
  Speaker 3: of and who we can work with, you know, and
• 2:47:33
  Speaker 3: like every month is we're trying to go weekly, but
• 2:47:37
  Speaker 3: how do we fill it enough, you know, to do
• 2:47:41
  Speaker 3: it the right way is kind of where we're at.
• 2:47:44
  Speaker 3: We're gonna be doing some more work with Terror Vision
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  Speaker 3: in the future, so there's a lot a lot going
• 2:47:50
  Speaker 3: on that we're still trying to finalize as of right now.
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  Speaker 5: So good.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I have work in in about six hours.
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  Speaker 5: Okay. So so when when do you think this episode
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  Speaker 5: is gonna air out? And I'll make sure make sure
• 2:48:08
  Speaker 5: just tag me so I can share it around. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: absolutely will it'll be out. So this this Monday, we
• 2:48:13
  Speaker 5: have after hours coming out, so it'll be the next Monday. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So but let everyone know, like Garrett, let everyone know
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  Speaker 3: where where they can find you real quick.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I'm Garrett over at Born to Be Rad
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  Speaker 5: b O r N number two b E R A D.
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  Speaker 5: You can find me on all social media platforms, YouTube
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  Speaker 5: and Instagram primarily, and you can find me on Facebook
• 2:48:35
  Speaker 5: and TikTok as well. So I hope you guys jump
• 2:48:38
  Speaker 5: over there and check out the channel.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Christian, what about you?
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  Speaker 5: Man?
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  Speaker 3: Where can people find you?
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  Speaker 1: Planet chh Just look it up on most socials and
• 2:48:47
  Speaker 1: that's where you'll find me, specific more importantly on YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: And you need a candles follow us on Instagram. We
• 2:48:54
  Speaker 1: have a this is coming out next Monday. Well hopefully
• 2:48:58
  Speaker 1: stuff's still on the site, but we just be put
• 2:49:00
  Speaker 1: out by the time this comes out. Jaws Candles Return,
• 2:49:03
  Speaker 1: Living Dead Candles, uh Wax Mountain. There's a weird misconception
• 2:49:08
  Speaker 1: I get where people think that I get sent candles
• 2:49:10
  Speaker 1: and I just sell them. No, no, no, My wife
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  Speaker 1: makes everything by and she draws every piece of art
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  Speaker 1: by hand. Everything is hand done. You can't get but
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  Speaker 1: we get in the store, So please give us a shot.
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  Speaker 1: My wife works her ass off on it, and I'm
• 2:49:25
  Speaker 1: very proud of it. So yeah, follow us at you
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  Speaker 1: needed candles and please check out our website. You need
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  Speaker 1: a candles dot com?
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  Speaker 5: Thank you?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, hell yeah Steve. Where can people find you? Man?
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  Speaker 4: And you guys can find me everywhere I'm at after
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  Speaker 4: hours video, I'm on YouTube, Instagram, TikTok you names.
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  Speaker 3: And then you guys can find me. I just go
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  Speaker 3: by bearded film guy on Instagram over on YouTube here
• 2:49:50
  Speaker 3: on the ain't got much of a beard right now.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, I turned it down a little bit, a little mistake.
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  Speaker 3: Change that change that name there, it's gonna be it's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be slightly bearded films, but awesome. Thank you guys
• 2:50:05
  Speaker 3: so much. Let's uh, I know we got this. I
• 2:50:07
  Speaker 3: know we got the tent setups.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go get some sleep. I'll see you guys in
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  Speaker 3: the morning.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sleep.
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  Speaker 5: Thanks guys, come up all.
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