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Will MrBeast Buy a CFB Team? Scott Frost EXPOSED, “Super Conference” Panic · Unafraid Show with George Wrighster

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the College Football Show. We got a lot
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Speaker 1: to talk about. It's been almost two weeks since our
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Speaker 1: last live show. I gotta give you an update on
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Speaker 1: why that has happened. We got to talk about North
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Speaker 1: Dakota State going into the Mountain West. We gotta talk
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Speaker 1: about what's going on with Drake May North Carolina, and
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Speaker 1: Pete Nakoas dropped an absolute nuclear bomb of an article
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Speaker 1: and FFL like I got lost in the woods talking
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Speaker 1: about nil and the negotiations with the players, and this
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Speaker 1: is exactly why we need collective bargaining because this stuff
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Speaker 1: is out of control. The other thing that we have
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Speaker 1: to talk about is mister Beast, and I know that
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Speaker 1: you know, you might be like me watching Beast games
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Speaker 1: and all this stuff, and he's talking about maybe sponsoring
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Speaker 1: a team to buy a national championship. With so much
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Speaker 1: stuff going on there, Drake May in North Carolina, beefing
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Speaker 1: and so much more, you guys, And we got to
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Speaker 1: react to Lincoln Riley and Bill Moose, my former athletic
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Speaker 1: director at Oregon, dropped just through the amble on Scott Frost,
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Speaker 1: and I didn't mind it. I didn't mind it, not
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Speaker 1: one single bit. So we got to talk about that
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Speaker 1: is I'm want to update you guys on what's been
1:29
Speaker 1: going on while we have not had a live show
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Speaker 1: in two weeks. Okay, So your boy had a health scare.
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Speaker 1: your boy was on the way out of here. I
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Speaker 1: one night having some chest pains and feeling pressure. I'm scared.
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Speaker 1: was confused about what was going on. So it ended
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Speaker 1: up in the hospital. They do all this test, did
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Speaker 1: an angiogram on me, everything, and they were like, bro,
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Speaker 1: your heart is in great shape. And then I ended
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Speaker 1: few days later, and he's like, George, your heart is great.
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Speaker 1: Turns out I was having a stress related issue that
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Speaker 1: caused an issue that felt like I was having a
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Speaker 1: heart attack. But yeah, but none of that is going on.
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Speaker 1: So I am in great shape. I will be here
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Speaker 1: for a long time, God God willing, and that there's
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Speaker 1: no serious health issues. I'm getting myself in better shape
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Speaker 1: and everything else. But I had already started that prior.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, so that's what's going on, and that's why
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Speaker 1: we haven't had a live show, so you know. So
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Speaker 1: I hope you guys missed me, but that's the reason why.
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Speaker 1: But we got so much, I mean, but in the meantime,
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Speaker 1: we've been cooking up some good stuff in the back end.
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Speaker 1: And I just want to tell you guys, take care
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Speaker 1: But if you don't take care of it, it'll sneak
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Speaker 1: But anyways, that's it. And I thank you guys because
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Speaker 1: a lot of people asked about me when we have
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Speaker 1: All Right, So we had some news drop and this
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Speaker 1: was terribly timed news terribly to I don't know who
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Speaker 1: decided to put the press release out during the Super
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Speaker 1: Bowl basically Super Bowl Eve, super Bowl Day that North
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Speaker 1: Dakota State was going to be joining the Mountain West.
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Speaker 1: They're gonna be joining UNLV, San Jose State, Northern Illinois, Hawaii,
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Speaker 1: Air Force, Nevada, New Mexico, Wyoming, and UTEL as a
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Speaker 1: football only member. Now I love this, but this actually
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Speaker 1: has a bigger impact on college football than you might believe,
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Speaker 1: and it's actually a sentiment of a larger thing that's
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Speaker 1: going on and playing on behind the scenes, because what
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Speaker 1: these schools realize right now is that this is their
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Speaker 1: last shot. This is their last shot at the big leagues.
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Speaker 1: This is their last shot at trying to get into
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Speaker 1: being a Division one per If you're an FCS program,
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Speaker 1: and it's your last shot at potentially not getting left
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Speaker 1: out of we of when we get a super conference.
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Speaker 1: Over the last few years, you've seen North Dakota State
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Speaker 1: there in the Mountain West, and then you James Madison
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Speaker 1: has already successfully made the transition. Arkansas State Appalachian State
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Speaker 1: SMU went from a group of five team to now
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Speaker 1: in the ACC and they had to pay their own way,
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Speaker 1: which is exactly what Sack State is trying to do
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Speaker 1: to get into a group of six conference. This is
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Speaker 1: why they are so adamant at it because this is
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Speaker 1: their last shot, this last round of conference realignment. It's
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Speaker 1: it before you get the super conferences. And I had
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Speaker 1: Kyle Whittingham, who's now the head coach in Michigan, when
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Speaker 1: he was over at Utah in our interview from last offseason.
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Speaker 1: He talked about that he believes that there's going to
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Speaker 1: be a super conference within the next five years. And
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Speaker 1: this is a man who's been coaching in college football
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Speaker 1: over twenty years and at one location, and he's seen
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Speaker 1: Utah go from the Mountain West to the Pac twelve
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Speaker 1: to the Big twelve. And he understands that you have
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Speaker 1: to be mobile and nimble. And these schools realize it
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Speaker 1: because they know that you can be an Oregon State
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Speaker 1: in Washington State in the PAC twelve doing a good job.
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Speaker 1: Oregon State was coming up win ten games, and all
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Speaker 1: of a sudden you get left behind. So you always
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Speaker 1: have to be being aggressive. And the idea that there
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Speaker 1: should be loyalty within the conference, like, yes, there should be,
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Speaker 1: but the reality is this that every you have to assume,
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Speaker 1: if you are a conference commissioner or you are a
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Speaker 1: fan of a school, that everybody else is acting in
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Speaker 1: their own best interest, that you guys are are mercenaries.
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Speaker 1: And yes, sometimes your interests will align, that doesn't mean
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Speaker 1: that they are always aligned. Like you, you have to
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Speaker 1: distinguish the difference between somebody who is an ally and
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Speaker 1: somebody who is loyal and somebody who's down in the
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Speaker 1: fight with you. Because your because allies, their interests can't align,
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Speaker 1: but as soon as their interest don't liigne the other person,
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Speaker 1: they'll go over there. Like I've read the forty eight
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Speaker 1: Laws of Power book, and one of the things they
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Speaker 1: talk about in there is don't appeal to people from
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Speaker 1: the past. How many times have you heard somebody ask
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Speaker 1: you or say something to you, or even you've tried it?
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Speaker 1: Because I've done this before Yo, remember all the things
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Speaker 1: that I did for you here there and blah blah blah,
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Speaker 1: And they're like, yeah, I know, but nah, I gotta
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Speaker 1: go that way because that's what happens. You can't, you know,
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Speaker 1: try to get people to like and yes, sometimes people
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Speaker 1: do it out of guilt in a short period of time,
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Speaker 1: but for the long period of time, it has to
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Speaker 1: be you have to appeal to them that the future
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Speaker 1: is brighter than the past, that you're gonna be able
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Speaker 1: to do something different. And this is why I find
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Speaker 1: it very very interesting that this tweet was put well,
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Speaker 1: this Instagram post was put up by mister Beast, and
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Speaker 1: the Instagram post is the one over over here where
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Speaker 1: he reposts a somebody else's clip that says, could mister
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Speaker 1: b spend one hundred million dollars and make East Carolina?
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Speaker 1: And the reason why they're using East Carolina is because
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Speaker 1: it's a team that is a group of five team
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Speaker 1: all well, group of six team right now already. But
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Speaker 1: you know, if you put the right resources and everything, hell,
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Speaker 1: who couldn't they get build a new facility everything else?
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Speaker 1: Why can't you get a national champion? And this thumbnail
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Speaker 1: that I saw as well I was like, Yo, that
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Speaker 1: would be a hell of a show, because if you're
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Speaker 1: watching Beast games right now on Prime, you might be
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Speaker 1: looking at me like, oh man, that'd be a fun
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Speaker 1: game show. This dude is making, you know, over one
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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million dollars from YouTube ad revenue alone,
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Speaker 1: and then you add in sponsorships everything else, probably raking
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Speaker 1: in in twenty twenty five. I don't think it is
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Speaker 1: absurd to say that mister Beasts made well over three
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Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. Now. Granted he spends a lot of
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Speaker 1: it on the actual videos and everything else, humanitarian work
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Speaker 1: and everything else, but still this would be an interesting
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Speaker 1: gameplay for him and a return on investment because he
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Speaker 1: gets a chance to monetize the whole entire process. And
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Speaker 1: we've seen coaches sit up there and say, Yo, if
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Speaker 1: somebody wants to come in and put twenty million, fifty million,
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Speaker 1: hundred million dollars in and get twenty four to seven
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Speaker 1: access to us, you can have it, baby, you can
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Speaker 1: have it. And I found that interesting because everybody wants
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Speaker 1: to win, and fans want content, and people want access
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Speaker 1: to the sausage factory. They want to see how it's made.
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Speaker 1: And then especially if you can make a compelling story
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Speaker 1: with compelling characters. And I do believe that if you
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Speaker 1: can put the right coach and I'm not saying that
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Speaker 1: ECU has the wrong coach right right now, I'm saying
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Speaker 1: if you can put a coach who's a good character,
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Speaker 1: who's a good football guy at ECU and then provide
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Speaker 1: and then give him the resources to hire top tier coaches,
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Speaker 1: then they will go to ECU because if he has
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Speaker 1: the nil resources to compete with North Carolina and Duke,
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Speaker 1: which are relatively close to there, and say hey, yo, yeah,
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Speaker 1: yah ya, hey, I know that you're gonna pay your
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Speaker 1: defensive lineman five hundred thousand, We'll pay them seven point fifty.
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Speaker 1: And then they can come and be on our show
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Speaker 1: as well well and become a personality and make more
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Speaker 1: money outside of the field as well, real nil money,
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Speaker 1: not just pay for play. And if you can do
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Speaker 1: that with a roster, because we've seen teams that are making,
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Speaker 1: you know, twenty million dollar rosters, thirty million dollar rosters.
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Speaker 1: If you're willing to give thirty million dollars to make
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Speaker 1: a roster at ECU with great coaching on top of that,
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Speaker 1: you can turn this into something real quick, and then
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Speaker 1: you will get a chance to Even though that those
11:33
Speaker 1: games won't be on TV quite as much initially, Oh
11:37
Speaker 1: the next season they finding a way to put every
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Speaker 1: single game on television, and if not, it'll be streamed
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Speaker 1: on YouTube and everything else. That'll be one of the
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Speaker 1: most popular teams in college football. I am here for it.
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Speaker 1: I believe that this would be an interesting case study
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Speaker 1: in nil. And you know who would hate that more
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Speaker 1: than anybody? Oh the big boys. The big boys would
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Speaker 1: have hated. How would Ohio State feel about that? Hated? Alabama? Nope,
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Speaker 1: Michigan nope, none of them. Hell, even Oregon might not
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Speaker 1: like it very much. Because when you disrupt the power
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Speaker 1: of the money and the distribution of the money, now
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden you get a level playing field.
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Speaker 1: That's how you get Indiana popping up out of nowhere,
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Speaker 1: the losing this college football program of all time, and
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Speaker 1: then they get a chance to win, they get the
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Speaker 1: And I've said this for the longest that all you
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Speaker 1: need that the best thing for college football is this.
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Speaker 1: The best thing for college football is if teams have hope.
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Speaker 1: And people try to argue me down this George It's
12:43
Speaker 1: been like this in college football forever. Fans don't care.
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Speaker 1: They know that Rutgers can't win, they know Indiana can't win,
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Speaker 1: they know James Madison can't win. They know this. So
12:55
Speaker 1: but but it's always been like that. To quote the wire,
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Speaker 1: the thing about the old days is that they the
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Speaker 1: old days. We are living in a new economy of attention,
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Speaker 1: and if people don't believe that they have hope, they
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Speaker 1: will give up. Aren't these the same old people that
13:15
Speaker 1: sit up there and try to tell us that, oh,
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Speaker 1: this newer, younger generation they're soft, they don't have the
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Speaker 1: fortitude that us old people have. So if you know that, right,
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Speaker 1: or you believe that, then why are you sitting up
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Speaker 1: there and trying to sell them to be fans of
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Speaker 1: a team that have no hope? Ever, hope is what
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Speaker 1: keeps people alive through tough situations, even the hope for
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Speaker 1: their kids, hope for their wife, hope for their brother,
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Speaker 1: hope for their husband, hope for the country, hope for anybody.
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Speaker 1: That's the thing that keeps people alive and motivated and going.
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Speaker 1: So in college football, team's need and their fan base
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Speaker 1: is need a three year window hope that they believe
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Speaker 1: that if we get the right coach and then he
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Speaker 1: recruits the right players and then transfer portals the right
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Speaker 1: guys in that and give him the proper resources to
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Speaker 1: get all those things, then in three years we should
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Speaker 1: be competitive, like competing not necessarily for a national chief championship,
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Speaker 1: but we should be competing for a conference championship. And
14:29
Speaker 1: that can happen anywhere. Look at Vanderbilt with Clark Lee.
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Speaker 1: Three years, you're in the conference championship race and kind
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Speaker 1: of in the college football playoff race toward the end.
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Speaker 1: Three years, you get the right players, all this stuff,
14:44
Speaker 1: and now they're building on top of that. That's what
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Speaker 1: college football fans need and want more than anything else,
14:52
Speaker 1: and you gotta give it to him. All right. Next
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Speaker 1: thing up, Oh lord, we had some controvers and you
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Speaker 1: the week as well. All right, Next thing, we got
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Speaker 1: to talk about is an explosive book by mister Bill Moose.
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Speaker 1: And you might be saying, George, who is Bill Moose? Okay,
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Speaker 1: Bill Moose is this guy in this picture. He is
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Speaker 1: the athletic director. He was at Nebraska when they hired
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Speaker 1: Scott Frost. And when I was at Oregon, he was
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Speaker 1: my athletic director. So this is who Bill Moose is.
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Speaker 1: So Oregon fans, this is going to apply to you.
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Speaker 1: This is going to apply to Nebraska fans, Central Florida fans,
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Speaker 1: anybody who's a Scott Frost fan. And why your school
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Speaker 1: does not hire the right head coaches a lot of times?
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Speaker 1: And now mind you. And so the book is called
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Speaker 1: his Memoirs called Crab Creek Chronicles from the wheat Fields
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Speaker 1: to the ball fields and beyond. It tells the former
16:17
Speaker 1: Washington State offensive tackle side of the story across his
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Speaker 1: forty year career in athletics administration, and then it ended
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Speaker 1: with his run of as aletic director for Nebraska from
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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen to twenty twenty one. Now here is the
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Speaker 1: thing about Scott Frost. And now this is where you
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Speaker 1: got to go back to Oregon. So Scott Frost has
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Speaker 1: not been a man of vision. He has not been
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Speaker 1: a believer. He's not been a man who believes that
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Speaker 1: he can do the hard thing. Okay, when he was
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Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator at Oregon under Chip Kelly and then
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Speaker 1: chip Kelly goes to the NFL, well prior to chip
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Speaker 1: Kelly going into the NFL frost, he leaves and he's like, listen,
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Speaker 1: I don't believe that you can recruit top recruits up
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Speaker 1: here to Oregon. So you know, I'm gonna get up
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Speaker 1: out of here, right And that's around the same time
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Speaker 1: that Willy Taggert ends up at Oregon. And then all
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, one man's irrational belief got everybody in
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Speaker 1: Eugenia believe that not could you just get the occasional
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Speaker 1: five star and then you got to sprinkle in a
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Speaker 1: bunch of three stars and occasionally some four stars, that
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Speaker 1: you can actually get a top class in the nation
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Speaker 1: at Oregon. And that was Willy tagger even though he
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Speaker 1: didn't have a successful run at Oregon, and it was
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Speaker 1: short because he left to go to Florida State, that
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Speaker 1: was the best thing that he brought, along with Mario Cristobal,
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Speaker 1: which you know, does a whole bunch of other things
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Speaker 1: but Scott Frost he did not believe. So then Scott
17:51
Speaker 1: Frost goes down to Central Florida. They go thirteen and
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Speaker 1: oho National Champions, and then he gets an opportunity to
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Speaker 1: be of the Golden Boy Gone Home. And Bill Moose
18:07
Speaker 1: tells a story about his interview process, and he said,
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Speaker 1: Scott Frost, when he was interviewing him, he wanted his
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Speaker 1: old wide receiver Matt Davidson in the room for the interview,
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Speaker 1: and that actually struck Moose as in the wrong way.
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Speaker 1: So then he asked his wife Kendra to sit in
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Speaker 1: on the interview as well, because he wanted to know,
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Speaker 1: like y'o, like, let me see it, make sure I'm
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Speaker 1: reading this right, because clearly I trust her intuition. And
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Speaker 1: then when it was over, he had a candid conversation
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Speaker 1: with his wife and he was like, yo, Scott Frost,
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Speaker 1: he just ain't mature enough to handle this job now,
18:45
Speaker 1: mind you. Bill Moose is a guy who hired Mike
18:47
Speaker 1: Leech the Pirate Man, a long successful partnership with Mike
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Speaker 1: Bellatti at Oregon, But when it came to Scott Frost,
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Speaker 1: he looked at it like a Sophie's choice situation. Either
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Speaker 1: hire a guy that everybody wanted at that point in time,
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Speaker 1: because Scott Frost's name was hot when he left UCF,
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Speaker 1: it was hot. So he either had to hire a
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Speaker 1: guy that everybody wanted even though he didn't believe it
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Speaker 1: would work, or get fired in the event that Scott
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Speaker 1: Frost took another job and did as well as he
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Speaker 1: was doing at UCF. This is a classic case of
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Speaker 1: people being scared. You cannot be scared if you are
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Speaker 1: confident in stand on business, in what you believe in
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Speaker 1: through your process. It doesn't matter if your own kid
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Speaker 1: thinks he should get the job. If you like, I
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Speaker 1: know this ain't gonna work. That's what, don't hire him.
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Speaker 1: And this was Nebraska's fatal flaw, and how they have
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Speaker 1: also ended up in a situation they're in right now.
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Speaker 1: And I gotta be honest who I love these tell
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Speaker 1: all books, especially if it's from somebody that is a
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Speaker 1: credible and honest source. To go back to Scott Frost
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Speaker 1: for a second, Yes that I will be honest him
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Speaker 1: saying that about Oregon. It did rub me the wrong
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Speaker 1: way because as a person who played at Oregon New
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Speaker 1: Kids in LA and how big the brand had gotten
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Speaker 1: at that point in time, I understood why, you know,
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Speaker 1: like historically why you would have thought that. But I
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Speaker 1: also thought that if you had vision and relentless effort
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Speaker 1: in recruiting thing, yes you could do it. So anyways,
20:41
Speaker 1: I looked at Bill Moose as well. There was another
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Speaker 1: wild detail in there is that he actually wanted Nebraska
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Speaker 1: to leave the riches of the Big Ten and go
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Speaker 1: back to the Big Twelve where they came from. Now, honestly,
20:55
Speaker 1: Nebraska would have probably had more success there, and he
20:59
Speaker 1: got under the radar meetings with then Commissioner Bob Bowsley,
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Speaker 1: which was in part facilitated by Jerry Jones, and he
21:08
Speaker 1: pitched Bowsley on getting the band back together and then
21:13
Speaker 1: coaxing Colorado out of the Pac twelve and then that
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Speaker 1: and after he secured mutual interests, he then went and
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Speaker 1: ran the idea by former President Ted Carter, who said
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Speaker 1: he wasn't against it. So now, then that got me
21:32
Speaker 1: to thinking about the alternate reality of the world where
21:37
Speaker 1: Nebraska leaves the Big Ten and goes to the Big
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Speaker 1: Twelve that feels more natural and organic anyway, And then
21:46
Speaker 1: if Nebraska leaves it and goes to the Big Twelve
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Speaker 1: and then they get Colorado back to both of those
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Speaker 1: programs are gonna get back better, faster, and then you
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Speaker 1: would probably have not even had Tech and Texas and
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma leave for the SEC because the Big twelve would
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Speaker 1: have had more name brand and more cachet and more power.
22:10
Speaker 1: And that's kind of the butterfly effect of this whole
22:13
Speaker 1: entire thing. And you know, I would have loved to
22:15
Speaker 1: see it. They imagine that, and y'all leave down in
22:18
Speaker 1: the comments. Do you believe that Nebraska's more of a
22:21
Speaker 1: Big twelve team or a Big ten team? Because they
22:24
Speaker 1: feel like a Big twelve team, like you know, geographically, historically, everything,
22:30
Speaker 1: and they haven't had a lot of success in the
22:31
Speaker 1: Big ten yet And I don't know if any is
22:34
Speaker 1: coming right now, just to be honest with you, but
22:38
Speaker 1: to go back, this does go to go show because
22:40
Speaker 1: this is not just a Nebraska thing. This is just
22:42
Speaker 1: a thing in life and in general. Because we see
22:45
Speaker 1: players get drafted by this same principle. Oh man, what
22:50
Speaker 1: if he goes somewhere else and balls out. We gotta
22:53
Speaker 1: draft this guy. We gotta draft it. No, you don't,
22:55
Speaker 1: if you know better, if you Bill Moose had hired
23:00
Speaker 1: so many good coaches, and it worked with so many
23:02
Speaker 1: good coaches. He knew what it looked like, and he
23:05
Speaker 1: knew that Scott Frost didn't have it at that point
23:07
Speaker 1: in time, and he still went and hired him anyway
23:09
Speaker 1: because he was Nebraska's son, out of fear of what
23:13
Speaker 1: could happen if he went somewhere else. So what, man,
23:16
Speaker 1: if you know better, you can't just hire people just
23:20
Speaker 1: out of fear of what could happen or what could
23:23
Speaker 1: not go wrong. Next thing up, we got beef and
23:28
Speaker 1: drama in the National Football League, and it happened with
23:32
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl because you got Bill Belichick over there
23:36
Speaker 1: at North Carolina. And then you have mister Drake May
23:41
Speaker 1: who played at the University of North Carolina, and the
23:45
Speaker 1: beef here is this so remember so obviously Drake May
23:49
Speaker 1: played at North Carolina. Bill Belichick is head coach in
23:52
Speaker 1: North Carolina. Bill Belichick hates the Patriots. Okay, clearly hates
23:57
Speaker 1: the Patriots. He didn't get into the Hall of Fame
24:00
Speaker 1: right right now. They got all sorts of fractures going on.
24:04
Speaker 1: Tom Brady unfollowed the Patriots. He said he didn't have
24:07
Speaker 1: a dog in the fight. His old teammates are mad, Tom,
24:11
Speaker 1: you gotta say something. They got a whole bunch of
24:13
Speaker 1: in fighting going on at the Patriots. And so this
24:16
Speaker 1: week leading up to the Super Bowl, the University of
24:19
Speaker 1: North Carolina actually went all out to promote their association
24:23
Speaker 1: with Drake Bay. He was clearly there. Started for two years.
24:26
Speaker 1: First round pick, you know, started the Super Bowl only
24:30
Speaker 1: twenty three years old. But then when it came time
24:33
Speaker 1: for the pregame announcements, you know, they were like, hey,
24:37
Speaker 1: I'm Chris Kringleberry. And mind you, they first started doing
24:42
Speaker 1: this when I was in the NFL, where you would
24:45
Speaker 1: do the you know, hey, I'm George Reister or University
24:49
Speaker 1: of Oregon. And it became cool for guys to shout
24:52
Speaker 1: out their high school. So you'd be like George Reister,
24:55
Speaker 1: sil Mar High School, Buckley like you you would. Guys
24:59
Speaker 1: would that because it was cool in the moment, but
25:03
Speaker 1: it since become less cool. And guys, especially if they
25:07
Speaker 1: don't have an attachment to their school or a good
25:09
Speaker 1: relationship with their school, they'll still help us shout out
25:12
Speaker 1: they middle school. They'll shout out a pre k to hell,
25:14
Speaker 1: shout out their their high school instead of their college.
25:19
Speaker 1: That's exactly what happened. So in front of one hundred
25:22
Speaker 1: million people in pregame, Drake May said he was out
25:26
Speaker 1: of Meers Park High School. Now, I can't say for
25:29
Speaker 1: sure that North Carolina is getting you know, caught well,
25:34
Speaker 1: that they're getting caught early in the season, because remember this,
25:38
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty five season, Bill Belichick had a
25:43
Speaker 1: directed a moratorium on promoting anything Patriots related, which meant
25:49
Speaker 1: that Drake May got caught in the crossfire. And that
25:52
Speaker 1: was according to Ross Martin of two four seven, and
25:56
Speaker 1: that that factor then to Drake May choosing to promote
25:58
Speaker 1: his high school and he didn't even get a senior
26:01
Speaker 1: year in his high school due to COVID cancelations. But
26:07
Speaker 1: it certainly couldn't have helped that North Carolina wasn't even
26:10
Speaker 1: given this dude no love, and then it wasn't until
26:14
Speaker 1: social media forced them to be like, yo, why is
26:18
Speaker 1: everybody else shouting out the NFL players but not our team?
26:24
Speaker 1: And then everybody was pissed and then they had to
26:26
Speaker 1: do it. But to May's credit, though, he did record
26:30
Speaker 1: a video to hype up North Carolina's basketball team before
26:33
Speaker 1: they took on Duke the night before the Super Bowl,
26:35
Speaker 1: and hell, it even worked. But Bill Belichick, he actually
26:39
Speaker 1: showed up to that game with his controversial girlfriend, who
26:43
Speaker 1: showed up wearing a shirt that referenced a certain massage
26:47
Speaker 1: parlor that the scandal for the Patriots owner, mister Robert Kraft.
26:54
Speaker 1: So that beefing going away at all. And now you
26:57
Speaker 1: got Drake May caught up in the crossfire. So to
27:00
Speaker 1: sum this all up, this is a clear mistake by
27:03
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. This is a clear mistake by North Carolina
27:07
Speaker 1: because they are letting a guy who is on the
27:12
Speaker 1: top of the world right now and he ain't really
27:14
Speaker 1: wanting to fool with them. That is what one hundred
27:16
Speaker 1: percent bad idea for recruiting, because they are one hundred
27:19
Speaker 1: percent going to want to call this kid back when
27:22
Speaker 1: they when they're trying to get a top tier quarterback,
27:24
Speaker 1: and if they don't, so it's a one hundred percent
27:28
Speaker 1: bad idea. All right. We also got to talk about
27:31
Speaker 1: this article by Pete Nakos, Lord have mercy. Why was
27:38
Speaker 1: this not talked about more? I don't know whether it
27:41
Speaker 1: was the timing because college football season had ended, it
27:45
Speaker 1: was after signing day, the Super Bowl was coming. I
27:48
Speaker 1: don't know what it was, but his February the fourth
27:52
Speaker 1: article called inside the NIO Negotiations with the twenty twenty
27:57
Speaker 1: six recruiting class, it just high light why we need
28:01
Speaker 1: a collective bargaining agreement. Now, mind you, I am the
28:05
Speaker 1: same person who has testified in front of the Senate
28:08
Speaker 1: Judiciary Committee about name, image and likeness, about players getting
28:13
Speaker 1: paid and fighting for those rights. I have a son
28:16
Speaker 1: who's playing college football right now, another son who may
28:20
Speaker 1: and daughter who may be playing volleyball in college, so
28:23
Speaker 1: I am on the player's side. However, there are some
28:27
Speaker 1: significant issues. The players need protections healthcare for injuries that
28:35
Speaker 1: last beyond their career. They need protections about scholarships getting
28:39
Speaker 1: pushed into portal everything else. They need protections for their
28:44
Speaker 1: nil on their payments, on time, anything like that. And
28:48
Speaker 1: the school they need protections players just dipping after one year,
28:55
Speaker 1: not fulfilling contracts, all of that stuff. The schools need
29:00
Speaker 1: contracts so everybody gets protected. And then you can put
29:04
Speaker 1: in a fine system like Dion Sanders has over there
29:07
Speaker 1: in Colorado or in Memphis with Penny Hardaway and other places.
29:11
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with that, because when you're
29:13
Speaker 1: dealing with big money you get big money problems like
29:18
Speaker 1: you can't just use oh he's only eighteen. Contracts are contracts.
29:22
Speaker 1: You gotta hire lawyers, You gotta follow through on the
29:25
Speaker 1: things that you've signed on the dotted line about and
29:28
Speaker 1: you are responsible for that, just saying that's just the truth. Now,
29:34
Speaker 1: the things that Pete Nako's pointed out in this article
29:37
Speaker 1: were fascinating, like things that we know are going on
29:40
Speaker 1: behind the scenes but people are too scared to talk about.
29:43
Speaker 1: But they were anonymously and it was cool. He talks
29:46
Speaker 1: about one sec general manager. He said, kids are trying
29:50
Speaker 1: to get the red carpet treatment for junior day visits
29:54
Speaker 1: and cash in hand to show up on an official visit.
29:58
Speaker 1: He said, they have official visit at expectations, fing flight
30:02
Speaker 1: and hotel rooms for a high school kid for a
30:04
Speaker 1: junior day and then one thousand dollars for an official
30:08
Speaker 1: visit or unofficial visits. Now now that unofficial visiness see
30:16
Speaker 1: now now, on one, on one hand, there are schools
30:19
Speaker 1: because you know, I go around talking to coaches and
30:22
Speaker 1: their interviews are here. On the other, fraid, Joe, there
30:25
Speaker 1: are a lot of coaches that won't recruit players that
30:29
Speaker 1: don't show up on their campus because they want to
30:32
Speaker 1: know that you may come here and you're not just
30:35
Speaker 1: in it for just you know, the recruiting swag and
30:38
Speaker 1: anything else. So and somebody has to pay for them
30:42
Speaker 1: to get up there, and a lot of families don't
30:45
Speaker 1: have the resources to be traveling ten, fifteen, eighteen different
30:49
Speaker 1: colleges and everything else. So I do understand why players
30:54
Speaker 1: may want some money and hotel and all that stuff,
30:56
Speaker 1: because that's expensive to get a flight, a hotel, and
31:00
Speaker 1: you're a minor. You can't go all by yourself. Somehow,
31:04
Speaker 1: that's a minimum of two people. And this is where
31:08
Speaker 1: the shady agents, this is where the handlers. All these
31:12
Speaker 1: people they getting paid to get them up there, and
31:15
Speaker 1: all of that stuff. All you got back door stuff
31:17
Speaker 1: going on instead of it going through the front door
31:20
Speaker 1: like it should be. Nikos also goes on said SEC
31:23
Speaker 1: general manager mentioned that there's a Texas Tech tax. We
31:28
Speaker 1: all knew that this was going on. He said, agents
31:30
Speaker 1: will mention a number from Texas Tech just to drive
31:33
Speaker 1: up the price because Texas Tech got that oil money.
31:36
Speaker 1: Texas got that oil money, Texas A and M got
31:39
Speaker 1: that oil money. Their nil numbers and the giving and
31:43
Speaker 1: the excitement about it is different than at other schools.
31:47
Speaker 1: Just the truth. They got long, deep pockets, like they
31:51
Speaker 1: got that Big Ten money around there. And then you
31:54
Speaker 1: had a lot of staffers and acc staffer told on
31:58
Speaker 1: three that monthly payment requests come in at two to
32:02
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars. And mind you, this is while they're
32:04
Speaker 1: still in high school. And a Big ten general manager said,
32:08
Speaker 1: you can't put a class to get a top twenty
32:10
Speaker 1: five class together if you're not doing it. Look at
32:14
Speaker 1: and particularly before the house settlement came in, you had
32:20
Speaker 1: a lot of schools making upfront payments and guarantees two
32:24
Speaker 1: players about. They were front loading classes. So what that
32:30
Speaker 1: means is is that they would say, all right, cool,
32:33
Speaker 1: we're gonna give you one hundred and fifty thousand dollars now,
32:38
Speaker 1: and then we'll give you one hundred and fifty thousand
32:40
Speaker 1: dollars again when you show up on campus or after
32:45
Speaker 1: you sign your letter of intent, and they're getting and
32:50
Speaker 1: so they're essentially getting a monthly stipend. So they either
32:53
Speaker 1: do it that way or they'll be getting slid cash
32:56
Speaker 1: for nil when it's really paid for play. Because those
33:01
Speaker 1: high school kids don't really have a ton of value
33:03
Speaker 1: outside of a couple of them. Because if NFL players
33:07
Speaker 1: don't have a ton of value, college football players don't
33:09
Speaker 1: really have a ton of value. I'm talking about outside marketability,
33:14
Speaker 1: like who can sell products they don't really have no
33:18
Speaker 1: value outside of a handful. We're talking like Lebron's Cooper
33:23
Speaker 1: flags and you know, like a high school football player.
33:26
Speaker 1: It locally maybe right, So those things have to be
33:32
Speaker 1: done if you are going to close a class, because
33:35
Speaker 1: even though it should not be about the money, we
33:39
Speaker 1: all know that money matters. I love my job, and
33:44
Speaker 1: yes I would probably do this for free, but I
33:46
Speaker 1: would do it a lot less if I had to
33:49
Speaker 1: make ends meet doing something else. It's just just the truth,
33:54
Speaker 1: just reality. You know, look at Kevin Durant. He's one
33:59
Speaker 1: of the players that loves basketball more than anything else.
34:01
Speaker 1: He would still be hooping if he wasn't an NBA player,
34:04
Speaker 1: but he wouldn't be able to hoop as much because
34:06
Speaker 1: he still got to put food on the table, have
34:07
Speaker 1: a job. Reality is reality. Now Here is one of
34:13
Speaker 1: the most insane ass of the whole thing. A Big
34:17
Speaker 1: ten general manager said, we had a kid asked for
34:21
Speaker 1: a signing bonus. Okay, that's normal, makes sense. A flight stipend,
34:25
Speaker 1: and what that means is is some of these nil
34:29
Speaker 1: deals will have parents or you know, associates being able
34:35
Speaker 1: to book flights the way they can come to games. Okay,
34:39
Speaker 1: Jersey number choice guaranteed. Okay, insurance policy, Okay, there's no Yeah,
34:47
Speaker 1: loss of home and disability, loss of home and disability award, campaign,
34:56
Speaker 1: push preferred, walk on spot. You get a spot for
35:01
Speaker 1: your homeboy, tickets to home and away games, and field
35:05
Speaker 1: passes for agents. All right. Look, here is where the
35:10
Speaker 1: NFL and why collective bargaining matters the most. Here is
35:15
Speaker 1: where the NFL ran into this, where the rubber met
35:18
Speaker 1: the road, and college football is running into this like
35:24
Speaker 1: a train running into something standing on the tracks. It
35:29
Speaker 1: is barreling and there's no chance it stops before it
35:32
Speaker 1: gets there. The NFL ran into a problem. Remember when
35:37
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford, I believe it was, got fifty million dollars guaranteed.
35:42
Speaker 1: He was making more than the Peyton Mannings and the
35:45
Speaker 1: top quarterbacks in the NFL and the NFL players. It
35:50
Speaker 1: wasn't the owners because the owners they didn't care. They
35:52
Speaker 1: were spending the same amount of money regardless the players
35:55
Speaker 1: were like, no, no, no, we cannot have this. This
35:58
Speaker 1: is why there's a rookie wage scale. Now why the
36:01
Speaker 1: first pick only makes so much versus the last pick,
36:05
Speaker 1: mister irrelevant. There's a sliding scale on how much you
36:08
Speaker 1: can make, and it's never going to put you on
36:13
Speaker 1: your outside of your signing bonus amongst the top earners
36:17
Speaker 1: in that position group. And it should be like that.
36:22
Speaker 1: And the further you go down, when you get outside
36:25
Speaker 1: the top ten, it ain't even close because the players
36:28
Speaker 1: were upset about it. And this is the problem you're
36:30
Speaker 1: going to run into a college football is you have
36:33
Speaker 1: these top tier high school recruits or just because of
36:37
Speaker 1: the market and what's available, people are fighting over a kid,
36:44
Speaker 1: and then they're getting more than somebody else who's on
36:48
Speaker 1: your roster who's a productive player. And you cannot have
36:52
Speaker 1: freshmen who have not touched, who have not you know,
36:57
Speaker 1: sniffed the field and may not sniff the field making
37:02
Speaker 1: more than guys who have. That is one surefire away
37:05
Speaker 1: to destroy your locker room. And schools have to understand,
37:10
Speaker 1: and there's some that do it really really well. They're like, yo,
37:13
Speaker 1: if you end up a starter, yes, your pay will
37:16
Speaker 1: get bumped up, but here is what we will do.
37:19
Speaker 1: Georgia is one of the prime examples of this. They
37:22
Speaker 1: do a great job with their nil because they're not
37:26
Speaker 1: going to allow their roster to get out of whack financially.
37:32
Speaker 1: There were schools in the College Football Playoff that dealt
37:35
Speaker 1: with that issue during the season, where one kid finds
37:42
Speaker 1: out how much the other kids making and then all
37:44
Speaker 1: of a sudden, all hell breaks loose amongst their team,
37:48
Speaker 1: and then the general manager got to figure out agents
37:50
Speaker 1: getting involved in everything else. I know of a Big
37:54
Speaker 1: Ten school where you have an agent that represents multiple
37:58
Speaker 1: players on the team, and then they were in the
38:01
Speaker 1: market for one of their recruits and the agents like, nah, na,
38:05
Speaker 1: I know he wants to go there, but we can't
38:07
Speaker 1: send him there because now it could be a conflict
38:09
Speaker 1: of interest with the other players around. And also he
38:12
Speaker 1: knows how much everybody else makes there, so now he's
38:15
Speaker 1: got negotiating power because if you don't give this guy
38:18
Speaker 1: what he wants now, all of a sudden, maybe my
38:22
Speaker 1: other guys might need to get pushed elsewhere. Tell you
38:25
Speaker 1: it is a nasty power game out here as well.
38:29
Speaker 1: I mean, and speaking of Texas Tech, like you got
38:31
Speaker 1: coaches out there bashing and I'm not even gonna mention
38:34
Speaker 1: the kid's name, but you can read the article Texas
38:38
Speaker 1: Tech commit five star and some coaches were out on
38:42
Speaker 1: them because these kids are like, yo, I should get
38:45
Speaker 1: more money based upon my rankings. So now the Huffman's
38:51
Speaker 1: of the world, the Adam Gourney's, all of the guys
38:56
Speaker 1: who ranked players, they now have a higher responsibility and
39:01
Speaker 1: a vulnerability. So they actually have to be and need
39:04
Speaker 1: to be paid more because there's a vulnerability, no different
39:09
Speaker 1: than than in college sports or pro sports with prop bets.
39:16
Speaker 1: There's a vulnerability there because somebody's like, yo, yo, I'll
39:22
Speaker 1: give you twenty five thousand dollars to make sure that
39:25
Speaker 1: this guy goes from a high four star, get him
39:29
Speaker 1: his fifth star, because that might be worth two hundred
39:31
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars to the kid in pay for
39:35
Speaker 1: play money. I'm not calling it nil money in pay
39:38
Speaker 1: for play money. Think about that. So yes, so these
39:46
Speaker 1: stars are worth a lot to these kids. Man, they're
39:48
Speaker 1: worth a lot. And the people who hold the power
39:52
Speaker 1: of the stars, their responsibility continues to get higher and
39:56
Speaker 1: higher and hire because there's so much at stake, so
40:00
Speaker 1: much at stake for the colleges to get the to
40:04
Speaker 1: get the right players, to all of that. But then
40:07
Speaker 1: there's the issue of what happens when you pay a
40:11
Speaker 1: player all this money and he doesn't develop at the
40:14
Speaker 1: pace that the fans expect or that coaches expecting. Then
40:17
Speaker 1: you're pushing them out, money wasted. All of this stuff.
40:21
Speaker 1: This is all why we need collective bargaining people in
40:24
Speaker 1: college football. It is the only path forward. And I know, well,
40:28
Speaker 1: they have to be employees. Well, you can get special
40:30
Speaker 1: exemptions for stuff like that, and it's important that we
40:35
Speaker 1: have that contracts matter, that people are protected, student athletes
40:41
Speaker 1: and the schools because this chaos of paying people under
40:46
Speaker 1: the table calling nil, well pay per play nil, and
40:52
Speaker 1: people circumventing the rules with liar field and no, there
40:55
Speaker 1: have to be rules. There absolutely needs to be a
41:00
Speaker 1: firm cap on how much you can spend on your
41:03
Speaker 1: roster for pay for play now whatever percentage of revenue
41:07
Speaker 1: and all that stuff is. And then you look at
41:10
Speaker 1: these athletic departments. Look at how many athletic departments are
41:13
Speaker 1: underwater right now. They're losing money on a fiscal year.
41:19
Speaker 1: Why do you think that is because they're not being
41:23
Speaker 1: run like businesses. The NFL, the NBA, all of these
41:27
Speaker 1: teams are run like businesses, and a college athletic department
41:30
Speaker 1: has to be run like a business. And then so
41:33
Speaker 1: there has to be a fixed amount that players can
41:35
Speaker 1: make from pay for play, but then in nil money
41:39
Speaker 1: it should be unlimited. It works that way in professional
41:42
Speaker 1: sports all over the place. Lebron James can only make
41:45
Speaker 1: so much from the NBA because there's a salary cap.
41:49
Speaker 1: Tom Brady well actually not even playing no more. Matthew
41:52
Speaker 1: Stafford can only make so much being an NFL player,
41:56
Speaker 1: but off the field they can make a billion dollars
41:58
Speaker 1: if they want to, exactly the way it needs to
42:00
Speaker 1: be in college sports. But you guys, I'm George Reister.
42:04
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