Latest / Anchored by the Sword / Faith, Family & Following God’s Lead with Denise Gossett, Part 2 of our Sugarcreek Amish Mysteries Series!
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- 0:00Thank you for joining me on this episode of the Anchor by the
- 0:02Sword podcast. I pray that today's episode will
- 0:05leave you encouraged and also challenged in your faith.
- 0:08And I pray that you would take the stories that are talked
- 0:13about here today and share them with other people.
- 0:17Thank you so much for joining me and enjoy today's episode.
- 0:22Hey guys, I am super excited for today's episode of the Anchor by
- 0:26the Sword podcast. This is episode 2 in the series
- 0:31that is promoting Sugar Creek Amish Mysteries, the series that
- 0:35is coming out this week on UP TV.
- 0:40And today I'm interviewing Denise Gossett.
- 0:43She plays Naomi in the series, and like I've said before, I got
- 0:48to be an extra. So getting to work with
- 0:52everybody and get to know everybody on set was such an
- 0:55amazing experience. And Denise, I am just so excited
- 1:00to learn more about you, your story, how you got into
- 1:03everything that you do, and just all of the things.
- 1:05So thank you so much for joining me.
- 1:08Thank you for having me. Absolutely.
- 1:10So can you tell me a little bit about yourself?
- 1:12Sure. So I'm a mom of Riley Bason, who
- 1:18plays Esther on the series. And I was one of those kids that
- 1:23always said I'm going to act, dance or sing and then wasn't
- 1:26really like pursuing anything. Like I would do a play here and
- 1:30there. It wasn't till my senior in high
- 1:33school that I did a play and I had a nice role, a lead role.
- 1:38And that's when I was like, wait a minute, I really do love this.
- 1:43And the colleges were coming around announcing announce
- 1:47auditions for scholarships. And so I ended up auditioning
- 1:51and getting partial scholarship with the opportunity to audition
- 1:55again. And I just kept getting
- 1:57scholarships, scholarships, scholarships.
- 1:59And I was so green. It was, it's really funny.
- 2:02Like I tell people, naivete will take you far because what you
- 2:07don't know can't stop you. And I think that's a wonderful
- 2:11thing because I just went forward.
- 2:14And then because doing all kinds of plays in college and outside
- 2:18of college and getting paid and got an agent, and my very first
- 2:23big thing was the TV series Superboy.
- 2:28I played Lex Luthor's sister, which was a lot of fun.
- 2:32And then things have just progressed from there.
- 2:37It's been a wonderful career. That's awesome.
- 2:41So let's get into your personal freedom story.
- 2:45Yeah. So I already mentioned I'm a
- 2:47mom. We lived out in LA for a while,
- 2:50a long while, and did not want to raise her in the city.
- 2:54So we moved back to Florida area, Orland area, where we have
- 2:59a lot of family here. So we made that journey.
- 3:03It was the best decision ever. When we left, I thought I may
- 3:08never act again because I'm not out in LA to have access.
- 3:13And so I put a lot of trust and faith in God and I actually
- 3:18started working more than I used to work in LA.
- 3:23So he definitely was providing for me because I, and that was a
- 3:27big leap. I was very nervous, but I knew
- 3:29that I wanted her safe. I didn't want her growing up
- 3:32that way. There were too many.
- 3:35I remember being pregnant and my husband and I going out to the
- 3:38movies and we saw all these teenagers walking around and
- 3:42they've got their Fendi purses and their Prada and all of this.
- 3:45And just the way they talked, I was like, I don't want that for
- 3:49my daughter. I don't want her focus to be
- 3:52these brand names that really mean nothing in the big picture.
- 3:57And it was the best thing because Orlando is very family
- 4:01oriented. Like I said, we have a lot of
- 4:03family here. And she was able to grow up with
- 4:06cousins and aunts and uncles and grandma, grandpa.
- 4:10And so that all worked beautifully.
- 4:13And it was, you know, it was a sign of trusting.
- 4:18And, you know, we all struggle with that, how when things seem
- 4:21so bad and rough, how do we trust that things are going to
- 4:26work out? Oddly enough, when I was in Sure
- 4:30Creek filming, I saw a church and I had a sign out front.
- 4:35And it's this quote, it really hit me like, like, this is
- 4:38Naomi's way. She thinks too worrying means
- 4:42you think God will make a mistake.
- 4:45And I was like, Oh my gosh, it's so true because there's no point
- 4:48in worrying. You can't do anything about it.
- 4:50And honestly, like, what's the worst that can happen?
- 4:53You know, from some of these things, we worry about such
- 4:56silly things and, you know, life goes on.
- 4:59And and then the other thing I always say is like, will it
- 5:03matter? In a year.
- 5:05Will it matter in two years? No, probably not.
- 5:07So why are we worrying now? So my life has been a journey of
- 5:13trying to trust because I like to control things.
- 5:18I, I got to make sure like I know what's happening and am I
- 5:21prepared and da, da, da, da. And sometimes we can't do that.
- 5:24Sometimes it's impossible to be completely prepared.
- 5:28And especially this year because so many things have been thrown
- 5:31at us, good things like, you know, promoting the the movie
- 5:37and the TV series. And we've been doing a lot of
- 5:40traveling and it's just literally been, I trust you, God
- 5:43to take me to meet the right people and to do the right
- 5:46things. And it's been a beautiful year.
- 5:51Yeah, absolutely. And I love how you saw that sign
- 5:55because that that gets me too, because I come from a family
- 5:59except for my dad. I come from a family of
- 6:01warriors. My grandpa was king of that.
- 6:05And yeah, he, I, it's kind of funny, just when I first started
- 6:12college and I, I was going for a psychology degree.
- 6:16So of course, you know, you're young, you're dumb and you're
- 6:19like, yeah, I know everything. Like you go through your first
- 6:21psychology class and you start diagnosing everybody.
- 6:24So that's so true. I went to him and I said,
- 6:28Grandpa, you have generalized anxiety disorder.
- 6:32And he goes, what's that? And I said, you're a worry wart.
- 6:37And he's like, no, I'm not. No, actually he's like, yeah,
- 6:40you're probably right. He, he, he wasn't he.
- 6:44He was the one who would watch The Weather Channel and then
- 6:47call you and let you know what the weather was going to be if
- 6:48you were traveling. Oh, that's funny.
- 6:51Yeah, so he, he knew he was. But yeah, I think that that's
- 6:56that's such a key thing is, you know, God doesn't make mistakes.
- 7:01And I think a lot of us, a lot of us have been through things
- 7:05that people would be like, well, how can you trust God even
- 7:07though you've been through this? And it's like, because I know
- 7:10that even though he didn't intend for that to happen, that
- 7:14he does make good. He can't make good out of those
- 7:17things. And they can help other people.
- 7:20Right. Exactly.
- 7:23Yeah. And that's.
- 7:24And that's hard because like, you know, I believe in, you
- 7:29know, energy to putting out good energy.
- 7:33And I believe it does come back to you.
- 7:35And, you know, if you do what we're supposed to be doing, that
- 7:40good does come back to you. You know, people will say like,
- 7:44well, I wasn't putting out there that I wanted a flat tire.
- 7:48And I was like, I, I know, but what was your mindset when that
- 7:54tire happened? And they'll go, well, I was
- 7:56pretty stressed about this, this and this.
- 7:58I'm like, well, So what you were putting out was coming back to
- 8:02you. You added more stress to
- 8:03yourself. So I truly believe that in all
- 8:07the energy and and what God wants for us.
- 8:11And sometimes there are lessons. You know, it's not always
- 8:15punishment. How we kind of look at things
- 8:17like why, why? It's lessons too.
- 8:20And we grow through the lesson. Right.
- 8:24Life is fascinating, really. It is, and I did AI did an
- 8:28online event a couple of days before we're filming.
- 8:33And I always say that 2013 and 2014 are the years that could go
- 8:39away because they were the toughest, you know, most
- 8:43complicated years of my life. But they're also the year where
- 8:47my greatest years, where my greatest testimony comes out of.
- 8:51Interesting. And when I go back and think
- 8:54about it, I wasn't back with God or I was just starting to go
- 8:57back to church when those things happened.
- 8:59And like, you know, I was angry at God during those times, but
- 9:04it's also built me stronger than what I would have been if I
- 9:07wouldn't have gone through those things.
- 9:10And so, yeah, you never know. Never know what's around the
- 9:14corner. And don't you always look back
- 9:17and think, how did I do that? Like how did I get through that?
- 9:21Or how did I accomplish that? Because looking at it now, it's
- 9:25like that was way too much. To get.
- 9:28Through and I somehow did. It right exactly.
- 9:32Yeah, it's, it's amazing. Yeah, So what Bible verse or
- 9:37verses help to keep you anchored?
- 9:40To me, just opening it up and sometimes I'll randomly just
- 9:46open like, OK, God, this is what I need to know.
- 9:49And I'll randomly open and I'll read and I'll be like, so I
- 9:54wouldn't say like a particular one, but I do do that.
- 9:58And that's really interesting to do because often you'll be like,
- 10:03what does this have to do with anything?
- 10:05And then maybe later in the day I'll go, oh, I get it.
- 10:09So it's once again that trust, trust that he's answering you on
- 10:16what you need. You may not know you need it,
- 10:18but you need it. Right, right.
- 10:22Yeah. And what is one of your favorite
- 10:24verses? The one that I say the most is
- 10:31the one I we started the conversation with.
- 10:34I can do all things through Christ because when I start to
- 10:39get frustrated, things aren't going my way.
- 10:41I always think that, oh, I'm going to paraphrase, but faith
- 10:47as a muster seed to like you don't have to with every bone in
- 10:51your body. Believe and trust and have
- 10:54faith. But if you have just a titch,
- 10:58that's really all you need. There's so many things that that
- 11:03comes into play in my life because I, I do worry, I do try
- 11:09to control my surroundings. And that's, that's definitely a
- 11:13flaw of mine. Years ago, a friend surprised me
- 11:19on my birthday. She just said, wear something
- 11:21comfortable and get in the car. And I was like, oh gosh, where
- 11:24are we going? Pull up to a trapeze place.
- 11:30And I was like, oh, OK, this will be fun.
- 11:35So we go in and we learn like, OK, there's you're not, you're
- 11:40not tethered, but there is a net below you're 4050 feet up.
- 11:47And I'm like, ah, easy breezy, right?
- 11:49So we get to the top of that thing and I'm looking down.
- 11:52I'm not scared. It's no big deal.
- 11:54But now to grab the pole, they can't be close because otherwise
- 12:00people will hit the platform. So they're way, way out there.
- 12:04So you have to be able to lean out and grab that pole and then
- 12:10go. And even then you can't bring it
- 12:14up this close. You're like, wait, you're,
- 12:15you're hanging over the edge holding on that hole.
- 12:18I couldn't do it. I was freaking out.
- 12:22My friend was crying. She was like, this is crazy.
- 12:25Well, the guy said it's the people who like to control
- 12:29things in their life that have the hardest time with this
- 12:32because you're having to trust that one, you're not going to
- 12:35fall, and two, that you can grab a hold of that and be fine.
- 12:40I'm the type of person that would like I came, I'm doing
- 12:43this, but it was struggle. I was so scared.
- 12:46And when I finally did it, OK, so my friend did it.
- 12:50She swung back and forth and she and then she dropped.
- 12:53When I finally did it, I swung back and forth.
- 12:55I'm like, I'm here, teach me. So they're like, OK, would you
- 13:00like to, you know, flip around? I'm like, yes, talk me through
- 13:03it. So I did OK, Would you like to
- 13:05switch swings? Yes, talk me through it.
- 13:07So I was able to do it all. But it was that leap of faith
- 13:11that I struggled with. But I thought it was really
- 13:14interesting that he said. People who like to control
- 13:17everything have the hardest time here, but who knew I was going
- 13:22to have such a lesson come out of.
- 13:23That yeah, because I was sitting here having an anxiety attack
- 13:28just thinking. About doing chats, it wasn't
- 13:32fear. It was, I guess some of it must
- 13:34have been fear because you have to trust that you're going to
- 13:37get it and not just fall 50 feet down.
- 13:41It was cool, though. And part of me was secretly also
- 13:45saying, OK, I know you got me, God, but OK, I have been hired
- 13:50as an actor to do this role. It's not me.
- 13:54You can do this to these. And that really did help
- 13:56whatever we got to do. Right, Exactly, exactly.
- 13:59I'm a control freak too. Like, I don't, I normally don't
- 14:03let other people drive because I feel like I have to have control
- 14:07of something. So when I drove down to Texas
- 14:10with my dad, who was perfectly able to drive, I drove the whole
- 14:13way because I was like, if something's going to happen, I
- 14:18have to know that I at least had the last little bit of control.
- 14:21Sure, sure. And you know, you want to go the
- 14:24speed you want to go. And yeah, no, I understand that.
- 14:29So let's talk about how you got into the Sugar Creek Amish
- 14:34mysteries, the movie and in the series.
- 14:38OK, so for the movie, there were auditions or a breakdown put out
- 14:43and my agent submitted Riley and I and she put a note in that
- 14:48they are real mother and daughter.
- 14:51And we both get an audition. We're like, Oh my gosh, Oh my
- 14:55gosh, this would be really cool. And so, you know, we don't have
- 14:58any Amish clothes. We just kind of, you know, put
- 15:00our hair back and no makeup and that sort of thing to do the
- 15:04audition and Riley wasn't feeling really great.
- 15:07I think she was dealing with some allergies or something.
- 15:09So she wasn't feeling great. So she kind of just threw it
- 15:12away, which often helps because, you know, you're not
- 15:17concentrating so much on what you're doing is OK, let's just
- 15:20get this over with and sometimes that work.
- 15:24So then we get the call that we both booked it.
- 15:30We were like what? And we're and we're flying to
- 15:35Ohio for three weeks now. Back then, of course, 3 weeks
- 15:39seemed like a long time. We're like, this is crazy.
- 15:41Like we're jumping up and down. It's like because we had done
- 15:44other movies together but never related.
- 15:48So this was our first mother, real mother, daughter playing
- 15:50mother and daughter. And it was phenomenal.
- 15:53And since then, I've talked to Sandra, the director, and she
- 15:58said every time she releases a breakdown, if there's a mother
- 16:02and daughter role, she always gets notes.
- 16:04We're real mother, daughter, whatever, right?
- 16:06I was like, oh, so it's common shows, yes, but she goes often.
- 16:10We love the mother and don't like the kids acting or we like
- 16:14the kid and not the mother. I'm like, oh, so we really got
- 16:18like, and Riley and I always say this was like, God helped us get
- 16:22this because everything that's come out of it is and so
- 16:26beautiful. We love our Sure Creek family
- 16:30and and then of course the series.
- 16:32So it's based on a 32 book series.
- 16:36Originally they were going to do like one or two books per movie.
- 16:41And then I don't know if it was Siobhan who decided or up TV
- 16:44decided to make it into episodes.
- 16:47So we shot that next year. We shot 8 episodes and we were
- 16:50there two months. Now that was a long time, but
- 16:58they've they've been loosely based on one episode is a book
- 17:021. You know, each episode is a
- 17:03book. So and we had one of the authors
- 17:08come to set and she was loving it.
- 17:14We we have talked to some of the authors and that's the other
- 17:18thing interesting about this book series.
- 17:20There's all different authors, so they rotate out, but there'll
- 17:24be like 6 different ones. So it's very interesting.
- 17:27I've never seen that before with a book series, but she was
- 17:30saying she'd like if we get through them all, she'd be more
- 17:34than willing to write more or or let us play around with thoughts
- 17:38of hers or whatever. But I asked her, I said, when
- 17:42you wrote these, did you ever think it would be a movie or
- 17:47ATV? So she's like, no, like she
- 17:49thought it was the greatest thing ever.
- 17:52And she brought brought her mom to set, she brought her
- 17:55grandchildren to set and they got to be extras in some of the
- 17:59scenes. It was really, really cool.
- 18:02That's awesome. Yeah.
- 18:04It's Sugar Creek is an amazing area.
- 18:07If nobody's been there before, it is gorgeous.
- 18:10It's so peaceful and I mean, there's just rolling hills
- 18:16everywhere. And then even I love the oldness
- 18:19of the downtown area, most of it because you know, there's
- 18:22there's a random shop in there that you go.
- 18:25But for the most part, it's like the old, old towns and it
- 18:30reminds you of something out of Germany because they call
- 18:31themselves like little Switzerland down in that area.
- 18:35Exactly. And and it's just we love the
- 18:37people. I love that everywhere you go,
- 18:40you see Amish and, and there's just such kind, wonderful people
- 18:47living a simpler life that we could learn so much from them.
- 18:52And it's funny because Riley and I got to the point where we'd
- 18:55see a horse and bug and we're like our people.
- 18:58So. Much about them, we feel like we
- 19:02are a part of it in an odd way. But.
- 19:06Yeah, we we love it. Yeah, I.
- 19:10Never thought I would ever say that either, but man, we do.
- 19:14Yeah, yeah. It's, it was so fun.
- 19:16The one day I was with Jennifer and her two daughters, who were
- 19:20also extras, and they were dressed in Amish garb.
- 19:26Yeah, they were there at the barn scene as well, but they're
- 19:31dressed in Amish garb and driving an SUV.
- 19:36And then I'm in the passenger seat because I didn't get chosen
- 19:39to be Amish that day. I was chosen to be an English
- 19:42because the wardrobe designer loved the outfit I already had
- 19:45on. And she's like, that's perfect.
- 19:47Your English or today. So these they were looking in
- 19:53the vehicle going like doing second and third looks because
- 19:57they're like, there's an Amish woman driving an SUV.
- 19:59Like what's going on here? It was.
- 20:02Crazy. Right, because they got me a
- 20:05rental car and sometimes I would take the rental car with Riley
- 20:08and I in it to the next location and same thing.
- 20:11Like I always felt like, Oh my gosh, I feel like such an
- 20:15imposter. People are staring like why this
- 20:19car? It's so, so weird.
- 20:23Oh my gosh, let me tell you. So we went to NRB, right?
- 20:26And Siobhan had asked it would we be willing to dress Amish for
- 20:31a Meet the Cast event? And I was like, absolutely.
- 20:34So we're dressed Amish walking through the Gaylord in
- 20:39Nashville. It was funny because I said,
- 20:43watch people's faces. They're either so into their
- 20:46phone and into what they're doing that they don't even see
- 20:49you. Or it was like a like a double
- 20:51take, like what? What is where am I?
- 20:53What's happening? It was so funny to watch and we
- 20:57were supposed to do it for two hours or an hour and a half.
- 21:00We ended up doing it the whole day because we were having so
- 21:02much fun with everyone. Siobhan geniusly brought in a
- 21:07buggy. For our booth.
- 21:10And so we were taking pictures with people in the buggy,
- 21:14outside of the buggy because we're dressed Amish.
- 21:16People loved it. We took hundreds of pictures,
- 21:20say it was so much fun. That would have been fun.
- 21:23I'm so sad that I missed that. Oh, it would have been so much
- 21:27fun. We were at the talk of invention
- 21:30because everyone was like, where's the Amish buggy?
- 21:32I want to see the Amish food. Where is it?
- 21:34Because it was just set up so cute.
- 21:37And I, you know, I would tell people I'd go, hey, do you want
- 21:39to get a picture with a couple of Amish girls?
- 21:41And you can even get in the buggy if you want.
- 21:43And they're like, what? I go, where else would you ever
- 21:46be able to do that? Like, you're right, I'm getting
- 21:50in. It was so cute.
- 21:51Everyone loved. Well, the interview I had right
- 21:54before you, my friend Misty, she she was there and she saw the
- 22:01buggy. Yeah, she saw the buggy.
- 22:04She saw you guys. And she's like, that was the
- 22:07coolest thing. But I was in the middle of
- 22:08running to another interview, so I didn't have time.
- 22:11But I thought it was cool how they had the buggy sitting there
- 22:14and all that. So yeah, it was so fun.
- 22:18I think they need to do it for next year in DC because I'm
- 22:22going next year. We will see what Siobhan has up
- 22:25her sleeve. But you're right, I mean, I
- 22:27should. Because we'll be then, you know,
- 22:31get ready for Season 3, God willing.
- 22:34And promoting season. Two.
- 22:38Yes, exactly. Yeah.
- 22:42Had you ever been to Christian Worldview Film Festival?
- 22:45No, never been there. So we went there, they were
- 22:49screening the movie and people loved it.
- 22:53Like a guy immediately came up and he said, I want this.
- 22:57I I'm from Portugal and I want it translated into Portuguese.
- 23:00I want this. And then I was like, OK, so I
- 23:04ended up hooking him up with Siobhan.
- 23:07But there were several people that were like, we want this in
- 23:09our country. And people just loved it.
- 23:12They're like, are there going to be more?
- 23:14And I'm like, yeah, actually, it's ATV series now, so people
- 23:17are so excited. We've met all kinds of people
- 23:21there. It has been such an amazing year
- 23:26so far. All the people that oddly, this
- 23:31TV series is touching. And the movie, I think because
- 23:35it's so wholesome, yes, you know, I always tell people it's
- 23:39like Little House in the Prairie meets Nancy Drew.
- 23:42It's something for the entire family with faith pushed in
- 23:46there as well, but not not hitting you over the head with
- 23:49it. Just nice subtle kindness, God
- 23:52here and there. It's it's a beautiful thing.
- 23:55And the series has a little bit even more than the movie did,
- 23:58which is lovely and just showing how we all basically believe in
- 24:06similar things. We just may call it different
- 24:10things. You know, the Amish, they,
- 24:12they're praying to the same God we pray to.
- 24:16It's just, it's, I think it's wonderful to see the, the
- 24:19different sides and how they pray because we show that in the
- 24:22series. I think it's going to touch a
- 24:27lot of people's hearts, hopefully.
- 24:30Oh, I believe it will too. And I am so excited for the
- 24:34series to come out and I can't wait for everybody to see it.
- 24:38Where can they go to keep up with you and keep up with all
- 24:42the things you have going on? And also how can they follow the
- 24:48TV series? OK, I am on Facebook and I am on
- 24:54Instagram and TikTok and Twitter X.
- 24:57I'm on all of them under Denise Gossett.
- 25:00The movie is currently still on Up Faith and Family streaming.
- 25:06And so I highly recommend watching that before you get to
- 25:09the series because it kind of fills in who all the characters
- 25:12are. And then the series will air on
- 25:17Up Faith and Family streaming on April 13th and then it'll and
- 25:24we're it's going to be 1 a week and then it's going to start out
- 25:27on up TV, the cable channel. So if he if make sure you see
- 25:32the movie slash pilot first because then you'll be filled
- 25:35in. And yeah, it's going to be so
- 25:38exciting. I'm really excited.
- 25:40You know, Up up TV will put out an ad like on Facebook and I'll
- 25:44go to it and I'll like read through the comments and it's
- 25:47just so cute what they say. They're all like, oh, I love
- 25:52this. Is there is there going to be
- 25:53more? So then like I'll write every
- 25:55once in a while. Yeah, there's going to be more.
- 25:57And they're like, I don't know if they figure out I'm in it or
- 26:01if they just think I'm some rando telling them details of
- 26:04what's coming. I don't know.
- 26:05But it's fun to see. It's fun to see the comments.
- 26:08And like, this was so cute. And this was so fun to see Amish
- 26:12with Englishers. And it's it's fun.
- 26:15And, you know, we think of it as just our little show that, you
- 26:20know, we, we happen to film in the summers.
- 26:23We don't really think like it's potentially touching all kinds
- 26:26of people, but it is and it's stocking.
- 26:30It's so fun. I was so lucky.
- 26:34That's so glad I get to. Yeah, and I'm so grateful to
- 26:38Micah because she's the one that hooked Matt and I up to be able
- 26:43to come for the first scenes in the movies and getting to meet
- 26:48all of you guys and, you know, develop this friendship has been
- 26:52so great. And I'm so grateful.
- 26:55And yeah, I'm just looking forward to seeing what's next.
- 27:01So you guys go check out Denise, go check out Sugar Creek Amish
- 27:06Mysteries on all the platforms. And I will talk to you next
- 27:09episode. Thank you.
- 27:13It's so great being here. Thank you so much for joining me
- 27:16for this episode, the Anchor by the Sword podcast.
- 27:19I pray that the story that you heard today will encourage your
- 27:22faith, challenge your faith, and also help you as you walk in
- 27:26your daily life. If this episode has done that,
- 27:29please feel free to leave a five star rating and review wherever
- 27:33you listen to this podcast so that others can find it and grow
- 27:37as well. Have a blessed week and I'll
- 27:39talk to you next episode.