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Is IronHeart The Best MCU Series Since WandaVision!?! (No Spoiler Review!) · For All Nerds Show

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  Speaker 1: Y'all don't understand how happy I am.
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  Speaker 2: There's so much we're not telling you right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's an aspect of the show that is so
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  Speaker 3: deeply consequential that they even introduced it that we can't even.
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  Speaker 2: Talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: And what's up, y'all. Welcome to another episode of the
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  Speaker 1: four All Nerds Show. It's your boy, DJ been on
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  Speaker 1: me aka Doc Pilgrim, Big Setch day La troll ready
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  Speaker 1: hater one. Not be any of that today, though, because
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  Speaker 1: it's a very special episode that as always, I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Joined by Tatiana King, the Granda's of the Tech also
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  Speaker 3: known as Facts, the Destroyer, Tessa Rak Thompson, Doc Ockey,
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  Speaker 3: Coldest Winter Sojia Ever, the Book of Ashanti, Tatiana King,
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  Speaker 3: the Conqueror, and Lawandavision.
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  Speaker 1: God damn you had them already, Yes, make him just
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  Speaker 1: He came and banged on me with your akas. It's
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  Speaker 1: been a while. I was just under the basket, like
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  Speaker 1: put me on a poster. Jesus. That was terrible. But
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  Speaker 1: as you heard by Taitana's fire aka's all Marvel related.
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  Speaker 1: We are here here clap it up quotes, Oh my God,
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  Speaker 1: Like y'all don't understand how happy I am. Because we're
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  Speaker 1: here to talk about iron Heart. This will be a
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  Speaker 1: no spoiler obviously none of y'all have seen anything yet.
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  Speaker 1: You know, if you're watching this when we drop it review,
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  Speaker 1: this will be no spoilers at all, just our feelings. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: Off top, I just want to say, because like I
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  Speaker 1: had to make a separate video about hating on this show.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's been enormous amount of hate. And when
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  Speaker 1: I was making a video and when I was responding
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  Speaker 1: to like some of these haters on our YouTube channel,
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  Speaker 1: I was sitting there thinking to myself, God, damn, I
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  Speaker 1: hope the show is good because I'm over here really,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like telling people to, you know, go to hell.
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  Speaker 1: And if this show week, you know, I was still
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  Speaker 1: telling them hell, I'll still tell them to go to hell.
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  Speaker 1: You know, talk you out. I mean, I was wrong,
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  Speaker 1: but I've still gotta stay.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a stand on.
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  Speaker 1: Business, and I'm a stand on business. You know, because
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  Speaker 1: y'all to they were being disrespectful for no reason, they
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  Speaker 1: would be dis troubled before they even saw the show,
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  Speaker 1: so I would that they know. So I'm still standing
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  Speaker 1: on everything I said. But that being said, my initial
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  Speaker 1: overall thoughts is actually I'm I'm a I'm a you know,
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  Speaker 1: step back and let Tatiana say because she has something
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  Speaker 1: to say about it, and I feel like that should be
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  Speaker 1: said first. So you know, I'll give you, I'll give.
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  Speaker 3: You the the rotten what I would have put on rotten.
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  Speaker 1: I know you said something in the group chat, and
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  Speaker 1: I just think.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, this Iron Heart series on Disney Plus that will
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  Speaker 3: be premiering June twenty fourth and nine pm Eastern sharp,
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  Speaker 3: six pm Pacific. This mini series of six episodes in length,
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  Speaker 3: is the most important show to Marvel, Disney Plus and
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  Speaker 3: the entirety of the MCU since Wanda Vision and perhaps ever.
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  Speaker 3: The levels and implications that are introduced in this.
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  Speaker 2: Series are beyond anything.
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  Speaker 3: I could have ever predicted and impacts every single thread,
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  Speaker 3: Timeline Branch, impacts everything. Single most important Disney Plus show
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  Speaker 3: ever at this point for.
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  Speaker 1: Marvel, I the only one I would say, like you said,
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  Speaker 1: is WandaVision because that's the only one that where like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we're getting a whole Vision Quest series off
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  Speaker 1: of White you know, Vision off that. So it's like
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  Speaker 1: if you didn't watch that, you'd be like, who the
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  Speaker 1: fuck is this dude was the was.
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  Speaker 2: The was the jump off way Division, was the rogue one?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because this.
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  Speaker 2: When it came to oh, anything can.
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  Speaker 1: Go, Yeah, and it's set off like a lot of
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  Speaker 1: stuff that we're still dealing with, Like, man, this movie,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there was mad implications from that show. So
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  Speaker 1: while like you know, Falcon when a soldier, we knew
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  Speaker 1: that the you know, the nigga was gonna be you know,
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  Speaker 1: Captain Americas. You know, we already knew he gave him
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  Speaker 1: a shield. You know, it's like he can debate over
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  Speaker 1: for a series, but you know, the man gave you
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  Speaker 1: the shield, bro, And so you guy, Miss Marvel was
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  Speaker 1: big because it introduced Miss Marvel, you know, and that
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  Speaker 1: was really big and had a lot of implications. Canda
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  Speaker 1: Night fully agree with you, Like no, like I mean
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  Speaker 1: this was like this should fucked me up, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Like that's like I was like, y'all, y'all seen and
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  Speaker 1: now I can say this because when I saw the trailer,
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was you know, peak old school Marvel,
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  Speaker 1: which was cool and all, but I just needed more
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  Speaker 1: for my girl re read because I've seen Miss Marvel
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  Speaker 1: and I've seen what a show can do when it
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  Speaker 1: takes care to pay attention to the culture of a character,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and so I know that reb is a
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  Speaker 1: young black former from Chicago, and I needed more of
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  Speaker 1: that in the trailer, and I was not given that
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  Speaker 1: in the trailer, you know, like they had that MIT
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  Speaker 1: professor disrespecting her and she didn't say anything back, and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck? This ain't my reread?
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Listen, listen. Like most Marvel trailers, it's lots.
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  Speaker 1: It's pod but see it's lives and everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: I will agree that it's a little bit more than
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  Speaker 2: this lies.
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  Speaker 3: It's a misdirect and even the tone of the series,
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  Speaker 3: and that's the mark that is mister Mark is probably
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  Speaker 3: a better approach because my that's one concern I have
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  Speaker 3: that people are not gonna come in this expecting much
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  Speaker 3: because the trailer doesn't even set.
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  Speaker 2: You up that this is gonna be much. No, and
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  Speaker 2: it's the exact opposite.
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  Speaker 3: It's like and maybe and again it's like you want
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  Speaker 3: to be mad, but it's also just here's why you
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  Speaker 3: want to be mad, because it's just like we've already
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  Speaker 3: had tons of conversation for months a year saying where's
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  Speaker 3: the promo, h.
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  Speaker 2: Where's the promo? Where's the backing?
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  Speaker 3: And we know by experience, we know by by what
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  Speaker 3: we've seen, we know by what we think like this
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  Speaker 3: happens too often, particularly with black or person of color
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  Speaker 3: lead projects, where it's unfair and it's done at and
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  Speaker 3: so I understand us being upset about it.
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  Speaker 2: Also at the same time, now that I've seen what I've.
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  Speaker 3: Seen, Holy, I understand now it's kind of starting to
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  Speaker 3: make sense the level of misdirection.
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  Speaker 2: However, it's still.
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  Speaker 3: Like, y'all could have gave me just a little bit
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  Speaker 3: of red pepper flakes in there, just a little bit, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: gave me just a tiny bit of pane in there,
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  Speaker 3: just just to be like, oh, it's not as you know,
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  Speaker 3: mild as you think.
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  Speaker 2: It's a little bit like I feel like most of
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  Speaker 2: the trailers do do that.
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  Speaker 3: They lie, but there's just enough spice to be like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 3: I should still be excited about this when you have
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  Speaker 3: a project where it feels like it doesn't have the
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  Speaker 3: back of where it's going to get hate because it's
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  Speaker 3: led by a black woman off break, not off of
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  Speaker 3: no substance, just off of the fact that they don't
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  Speaker 3: like the complexion. So when you have that, you're battleton
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  Speaker 3: against you're looking like Marvel, like you're like a Yama,
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  Speaker 3: you like.
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  Speaker 2: Marvel.
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  Speaker 3: Can you please do something about this? Which is why
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  Speaker 3: I totally understand give me some pigane on this, like
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  Speaker 3: give me the sauce, or and not even me, give
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  Speaker 3: the naysayer some sauce. So to say, you know what, nigga,
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  Speaker 3: you don't know what's about to happen and what I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to show you is not.
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  Speaker 2: True, but you're going to be excited for it.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's where are you know, being upset
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  Speaker 3: stems from.
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  Speaker 1: And I also think the problem there is like what
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  Speaker 1: would get me excited is what would make the naysayers
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  Speaker 1: even more mad because what we get me excited is Blackness,
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  Speaker 1: which show has, oh my god, just the spades, like
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  Speaker 1: it just has it. You know, Like this show is
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  Speaker 1: you know, executive producer by the Coogler family, and it
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  Speaker 1: shows in every fucking scene. You know, it is like
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  Speaker 1: the black ye black. Yeah, it's the blackest thing that
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  Speaker 1: I've seen Marvel does since Black.
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  Speaker 2: Panther, correct, you know, and Ryan's DNA.
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  Speaker 1: Is all through throughout it.
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  Speaker 3: DNA is all this yes, and and that that can
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  Speaker 3: speak more to it.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, this is this is homage. This is humbling to This.
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  Speaker 3: Is respecting the legacy of eve Ewing and her writing
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  Speaker 3: of one hundred percent uh. Even though he was quote
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  Speaker 3: executive producer, Ryan was very as I read later, was
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  Speaker 3: very deeply involved in this.
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  Speaker 2: So you can feel his work in his life through this.
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  Speaker 2: You can feel the energy.
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  Speaker 3: And then everybody else who's involved in this, you can
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  Speaker 3: see their intricate details, like like Ben said, like, yes,
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  Speaker 3: this is a very black cultural show.
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  Speaker 2: This is also very classic Marvel.
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  Speaker 3: This is the ship that really gets you excited, like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: this story building, this is the this is the what's
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  Speaker 3: what's a snack? That we really fucking back into them
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  Speaker 3: trying to think about it. But this is that ship
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  Speaker 3: that you was like, you're really like, damn, this is
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  Speaker 3: the ship I needed when.
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  Speaker 2: I was a kid. This is that Caprice son. This
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  Speaker 2: is that Caprice's son. This is that you was a
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  Speaker 2: outside right around how this hell you turn on the
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  Speaker 2: FoST you put your whole mouth under that. It feels great.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, oh my god, like that was my I put
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  Speaker 1: I posted that gift in our group check. Oh wow,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, because that like there were so many
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  Speaker 1: moments too. That's the thing, Like there's you know, we're
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  Speaker 1: getting these three episodes, you know, both times to you know,
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  Speaker 1: pack two packs of three.
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  Speaker 3: Basically, yeah, one week as mentioned the six it's a
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  Speaker 3: six episodes mini series. Three episodes week one, three episodes
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  Speaker 3: week two.
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  Speaker 1: And like there's been some complaint ABO about that because
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  Speaker 1: people understandably. It's understandably because people are wondering why. And
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: we distressed this on our main show where we pretty
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  Speaker 1: much figured out it seems to be because Superman is dropping,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the week after that, and they want everyone
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  Speaker 1: to talk about it. And like Tatyana said, having seen
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  Speaker 1: what we've seen, I don't give a damn. You could
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  Speaker 1: drop this ship in a volcano and niggas will be
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  Speaker 1: talking about it for the rest of the year because
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  Speaker 1: ship happens.
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  Speaker 2: All I got to say is give Chanaka Hodge her things.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you I want because I did not know who.
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  Speaker 2: That's the writer and the.
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  Speaker 1: Equivalent of a show runner.
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  Speaker 2: You don't show a showrun up that's essentially the showrunner.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, all right, give them all the things.
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  Speaker 3: Give Chanako all her things for this because the writing
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  Speaker 3: is fucking impeccable. Okay, again, we're just giving y'all high
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  Speaker 3: level about the series. We're not gonna give y'all story
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  Speaker 3: in information or spoilers and none of that. We're just
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  Speaker 3: trying to give y'all of the land in terms of
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  Speaker 3: what to expect tomorrow because this is coming out.
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  Speaker 2: What we're talking about right now.
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  Speaker 3: We can give you the day before, but tomorrow you
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  Speaker 3: best give to knock of her things.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because she wrote the ship the fuck out of this, Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And also, I'm glad you mentioned that part about like
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  Speaker 3: the understandable, you know, feeling about like, damn, why it's
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  Speaker 3: only since episodes?
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  Speaker 2: Why y'all releasing three and three like that? For reasons?
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  Speaker 3: I think we mentioned it in our last episode. There's
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  Speaker 3: some reasons. But also the show is very binge worthy.
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  Speaker 3: I got it, And I think that's a that's a
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  Speaker 3: really important thing to note that has been lacking in
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  Speaker 3: so many Marvel Disney Plus shows for many many years,
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  Speaker 3: where it's just like, all right, it's good here and there,
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  Speaker 3: but it's not binge able, like you can't stop watching
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  Speaker 3: that shit.
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  Speaker 2: We could not stop watching.
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  Speaker 1: It was only because the NBA Finals are on that
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  Speaker 1: I didn't watch all of this in one night because
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  Speaker 1: I hit the group chat, like I'm sitting there. I
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: watched the first three and I was like, y'all, this
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  Speaker 1: shit got me like I'm about to go through it.
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: And then I had to turn on the game. It
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  Speaker 1: was a good game before before this. So I finished
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: the game and then I was like, all right, I'm
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: gonna save the nets for And then the next day
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, you know, I got time. Me and
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  Speaker 1: tight Down aren't gonna talk about this for a few days.
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  Speaker 1: I can wait, nigga, please. I finished that shit immediately
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  Speaker 1: I got back from.
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  Speaker 3: I was overseas, got back landed, took care of some work,
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  Speaker 3: and literally and during the afternoon, for six hours, I
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  Speaker 3: watched it from beginning to end NonStop, and I said,
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  Speaker 3: holy what.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And there's so many like like we said, not
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  Speaker 1: only is it the blackest thing that MCU was done
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  Speaker 1: a long time, like ty Down and said it, and
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  Speaker 1: like I said, from the trailer, and let me say
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  Speaker 1: one last thing about that trailer. It lies in the
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  Speaker 1: ways that it should because there are moments in the
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: trailer where like there's a shot on the trailer of
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  Speaker 1: this truck and re red and when I talked about it,
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, we're doing the same
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  Speaker 1: truck flipping over the hero yet again. And then in
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  Speaker 1: the context of the show's fucking amazing, Like I was
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: jumping out of my seat when that moment happened.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I was like, and we gotta remember this is
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  Speaker 3: still like, let's let's forget for what Connor forever for
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  Speaker 3: a minute. People don't know Read, they don't know iron Heart,
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  Speaker 3: they don't know her background.
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  Speaker 2: This is the entry and this is and it's so.
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  Speaker 3: Deeply strong on itself like take away and again we
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  Speaker 3: can't speak specifically about it, not at least until her
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  Speaker 3: next real review full review, but take away all the
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  Speaker 3: extras just about the story of her. If that was
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  Speaker 3: the only thing that the show was about, it is strong.
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  Speaker 3: But the characterizations. Dominique Thorne is a beast in this.
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  Speaker 3: Anthony Ramos is the beasts.
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  Speaker 1: Yo, I'm not acting in this. I think I said
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: this after like after Twisters, because I didn't read you know,
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  Speaker 1: Twist is not the best movie. But I think that's
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: when I'll say, Yo, I'm starting to like this dude,
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  Speaker 1: because like I've keeeped him, you know, since he was like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, teenage after I feel like and I was
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  Speaker 1: never that big a fan of his, but it feels
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  Speaker 1: like he's one of those actors that as he gets older,
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  Speaker 1: he's going to really become like a monster. And in
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  Speaker 1: this like as the Hood, my Man is menacing, he's terrifying,
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  Speaker 1: he's funny when he's.
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  Speaker 3: He's so good, he's so like, I'm very proud of
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  Speaker 3: him because he has so proud like, yeah, he's just
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  Speaker 3: wanted me in some other movies, Like I'm just like, I,
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  Speaker 3: you know whatever.
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  Speaker 2: No, he has grown tremendously and I like how you
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: said that.
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  Speaker 3: Like he his version he's very is very nice, nasty,
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  Speaker 3: it's very underneath the surface is something deeply sinister, and
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  Speaker 3: you don't get that. Again, the MCU had been flopping
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  Speaker 3: for a long time, you know, especially with the villains,
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  Speaker 3: and you have not felt that where you're just like
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  Speaker 3: a yo, something not right with Holmes, Like you get that,
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  Speaker 3: You get that, and you get the humanity of the character.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what again, why I say this is just
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  Speaker 3: the story of reb and everybody surrounding her specifically is
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  Speaker 3: so strong because you get everyone's humanity, humanity of her family,
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  Speaker 3: the humanity of her, the people who are directly orbiting
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  Speaker 3: her and Iron Heart, and then also the legacy of the.
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  Speaker 2: Iron Suits or the Iron people.
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  Speaker 3: If you will, right, the Tony's legacy all there. And
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  Speaker 3: that's the other part which I get so mad about
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  Speaker 3: when I like hear what the haters saying, Oh why
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: they got to bring black people in this? First of all,
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: this is cannon. If you want to be a fan boy,
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: this is comic book cancer, get the fuck out. But
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  Speaker 3: that notwithstanding, even if it wasn't, this shit is deeply,
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  Speaker 3: deeply respectful to legacy. And that is Tony Sark's child. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: you're talking about Destiney's child. That's Destiny's child.
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  Speaker 2: Everything, like.
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  Speaker 3: On top of re read and her Storia has mentioned
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  Speaker 3: everything just intrinsically belonging to her being so strong.
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  Speaker 2: Now add on like again solid foundation, add on a
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  Speaker 2: layer of marvel.
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  Speaker 3: What the fuck and the best? What the fuck you
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  Speaker 3: could have ever think about? Like from Easter Eggs additional characters?
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Fuck it? Uh?
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: What that call when you just throw you to you
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: think you're going to the right, but you're going to
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  Speaker 2: the left, like whatever whatever that that literary term is,
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  Speaker 2: like it throws you for so many loops like that
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  Speaker 2: did not just fucking happen?
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  Speaker 3: And why like it You're not ready, You're not ready,
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  Speaker 3: Like this is it's more than solid, bro, it is
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  Speaker 3: going to shock you and fuck you up because you're
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: just like I wasn't even thinking about that.
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  Speaker 2: That's why, that's why this shit was so good.
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  Speaker 3: I was there was nothing, it's nothing that you has
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  Speaker 3: saw that you was like, Oh I thought about that, No,
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: you are.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: I guarantee you. Something is going to shock the hell
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: about shock the hell out of you in this series.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: And I would say this because I went into it
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: very fresh, like I was actually talking to a friend
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: of mine and they already knew certain stuff that like,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: I guess, you know, it's just trimon knowledge, you know,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: like they've said this person is playing that person and
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that going in. So when I'm watching,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: I'm like, why is this after in this This is
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: a pretty big actor. Why are they in this joint?
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: And then you know, when they revealed who they are,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, oh, oh, what the hell connection to
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: the MCU, Oh my god, this is firing. Then you know,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I'm like loving it.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: So they're like you knew a lot and I know
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: a lot read I ain't know these niggas. But as
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: soon as they said their names, I said, well, who
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: is this?
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: My Google's and I SA same. And then like there's
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: other people in the show who I had no idea about,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: you know, like even from reading comics, and I'm over
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: there googling their names as soon as they show up
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, that's what they are. And then
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: and that's what I really love about the joint is
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: is it doesn't waste time. Like for the six episodes,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: it packs in, like there's so many new characters introduced,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: and it's like on other shows like Looking at You,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Neighborhood Spider Man, when a characters introduced and I know
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: they are and I'm like, okay, go ahead and do
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: what I'm waiting on you to.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Do what you're gonna do.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: It's like a second season.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: But right, they already knew they were getting a second season, right, yes,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: we don't know what's.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Gonna don't iron Heart number one?
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: And then or it could develop into another film or
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: you know, because the thing is is just that they.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Have a lot to do in six episodes.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Man, And halfway through I said, well, how the hell
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: they're gonna pull this off? They stuck them What's My Girl?
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: The most decorated gymnasts ever, the mold biles, the files.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: This show pulled the biles.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, straight up?
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: How did that triple quadruple, triple dipper double?
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: How did you do that? Did it? Did it? Like? No? No?
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Too lest Yeah, the.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Pacing no notes No, I said that before.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: It's bingeable, which means the pacing is the patient is enough,
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: more than enough enough to the point where you're just
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: like bruh, I gotta keep going to just understand what
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: happens next.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and like like, well, Daredevil board again. They gave
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: us all them episodes and not to my leisurely time
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: watching that shit, because at that point.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: I started losing steam. Yeah, this throws you, as mench.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: It's just so much that.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: You're not expecting in this, and even the stuff you
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: do expect, it's still a twist to it where it's
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: just like, well, well how.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Do they do that? No?
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: And then, like like you said, like I had, like
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: when I was talking with my friend, they already even know, like,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: because there's there's some really big stuff in this and
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of that I knew, you know, I knew
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: that possibly, you know, some of that big stuff was
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: going to be in this series. I knew that, Like
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: it was some of the smaller stuff. I'm like, oh shit,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: well you know, I didn't know about that, But the
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: biggest stuff I knew. But when that big stuff happens,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: I wasn't ready, you know. And it's like, and like
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: you said, the way they flipped, the why they.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Flipped these catchs is insane. Again, we have to talk
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: about this catch work. Dominique Thorn, brilliant, Anthony brilliant all
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: then iron red right, all right, brilliant, brilliant lyric Ross
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: doing heavy heavy lifting on.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: This heavy.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: The heaviest out there, right, Dominique. There are people that
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: we for real cannot even name, and y'all will know.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: But there was some surprise and this and the people
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: who are there that it's actually pulk knowledge, like Chris
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Summers here, Okay.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: I didn't even know that public noledge that I was
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: sitting there like, oh ship.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, amazing surprise because it's on IMDb, but amazing surprise.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like I said, going to this as at least
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: as you can, because there's so much where I'm just
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: like oh oh, oh, okay, okay, you know, and then
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: it and that is the other thing. This is not
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: a show that you were gonna want to wait to
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: watch when we say it's beingeable. It's also like you're
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: not gonna want to be on socials, Like people are
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: worried about, you know, this show not having you know, steam,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: And all I'm gonna tell you is like the socials
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: are gonna be going absolutely nuts out of the first
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: three episodes, and then after the second three it's just
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: gonna be oh my god. Yeah.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: The character work is tremendous. You get, at least I
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: did get.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: You get. I feel like there's so much heart in
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: soulinness that there's no way like you don't connect to
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: this character. I obviously connect on multiple levels. Yes black girl,
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: Yes she's in the tech, Yes she's amazing all this
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: other stuff, but just from a humanistic perspective like this
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: is this character connects with the audience read and everything
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: that she goes through and all of the everyone within
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: her family, uh her not family treat, but that family circle.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Like everyone plays a part every everything.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: And that's what I'm saying why I'm just like it's
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: so brilliant how this was written, because it's like it's
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: typically very hard to get so many different characters and
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: multiple people to matter this typically and you're typically like, oh, well,
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: what happened, Like what happened to the baby? You know,
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: like you know what, we talk about it all the time,
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: what happened to that little kid? And this and that
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: and what about? Just never a point where I was like,
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: what about that person always comes back or that person's
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: always this, that threat is always tied like they, it's
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: they everyone is paid attention to, which is a tremendous
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: feet Yeah, particularly nowadays where it's just as I mentioned,
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: you just bel well, what happened to that other person?
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: They just rolled off into the sunset, you never to
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: be seen again, right, Like that doesn't happen here.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: And like one not saying I'm want to say on
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: it is, like you said, not just re Rey's family,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: but all the characters. I just felt like they established
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: a whole world around Rere and Ironheart full of characters
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: that is so dope. Like in six episodes, we got
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: all these different characters introduced where I'm interested in the
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: majority of them, you know, and where they go after this,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: and I was just like, wow, that's you know, really
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: well done. And it didn't you know, like it's not
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: cameos from old movies or any of that. These are
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: all brand new characters. So I'm you know, very impressed
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: by that. No, very just man, this is I'm just
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: really blown away. Like I'll say it again and again.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I you know, my expectations were low going in, and
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: twenty minutes into the first episode, I'm sitting there like,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: oh shit, they really got something on their hands here.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Thank you for mentioning that Ben there there is.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: You are in it immediately, You're immediately that you strapping
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: and you're on the ride, not three minutes.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Keep your arms inside the vehicle like type ship.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Because we also talk about that about how hard is
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: it to get into the to this series, right, like how.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Many episodes you gotta watch and really.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Care immediately immediately, immediately, immediately, yeah, immediately. That's like I
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: don't have many notes on my phone about the first episode,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: but that was my first note. It's starting off strong.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the graphics Chris is Chris, g I Chris.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Everyone who's h complaining about Marvel doesn't have the old
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: school armor up. You know, costume scenes, they got it.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: They got it. They got it in space, they got
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: some new ship going on.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Like if you like, if you, if you are you
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: mentioned the iron up suit up fan, you gonna get it.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: You don't get it for every episode, you're gonna get it,
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: and you're gonna be happy because you're gonna get it.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: In a different way. But yes, CGI looks good.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: The special really good, look real, Thank you.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: The action, the stunt work fantastic.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Dominique is believable with the stunts, Like she's she's a
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: small statue, but she looks and feels strong.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: The suit looks and feels corporeal.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: It feels heavy, it feels made out of metal, Like
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: when she's in the suit, it doesn't look like she's
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: in a green screen background, and you just like, oh.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Head, like like who was who was in the Flowing Head?
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Bruce Banner, he was in the buster Like it was
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: just like, Okay, it's kind of weird. No it's not you.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: And that's also been an issue in like Disney Plus
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: shows where it's like the CGI I looks kind of rough.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: We don't get none of this here. They put money
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: into this. Yeah, somebody put money into this looks good
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: and has been mentioned that action is fantastic as well written.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: It's well choreographed and it's believable.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: No, and it's like it was unexpected, Like I didn't
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: expect like the physical action you know that you did
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: in this very physical there's a lot of Yeah, there's
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: a lot of hand hand and you know, blows being yeah,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: and I did not expect that. And then when it started,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I'm like, and it's well done and well directed, which
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: I really didn't expect. I'm like, oh shit, there's not
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: some physical you know, I feel these punches like this
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: is dope.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: There's another aspect to the action that we should not discuss,
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: but it gives you another dimension on fighting.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll just say that.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: The music Fire Fire soundtrack, fire like incidental music in
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: the background and not the obvious dumb you know hip
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: hop song that you know has to you know, on
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: the nose type stuff, just dope music.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: It had me Shazam and a lot of time from
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: like go what is that? You know?
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: And a lot of local Chicago. Yes, yes, we talked
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: about how black this series was. This series and even
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: I'm not from there, I can't say with some experience
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: this is a very Chicago series as well.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely extremely and I've got, you know, great friends
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: from there. I've been to Chicago. It definitely like as
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: soon as I saw them on the lake, I was like, okay,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: all right, all right.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: It's very true to the environment that it's in and
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: as mentioned, lots of calls and direct uh narrative to
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: the Ironheart series by eve Ewing, like everything fits beautifully
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: and it's truly converted from the page to screen in
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: a way where it's not a shot for shot like
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: recreation type shit.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: No, it is the heart and soul of it though.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and to another media like it's it's it's fantastic,
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: It's fantastic. It's it's just I I need y'all to
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: see this to like it's just like I don't know
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: how else to explode.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Like people like, oh, because you're black, you're blacks, that's
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: why you're gonna be into it.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, like it don't matter, Like this is
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: the type of show where it don't matter what you are,
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: you were gonna be like, oh this is a good show.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I mean it's a great show, Like it's
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: it's just you know, like it's really just a good
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: ass show. Like I think it's shocking because Marvel, way,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: he hasn't had that as much. Like WandaVision was pretty good,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: you know, wand Division was like groundbreaking, but then it
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: was like it wasn't all on the other I think,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: other than the Mammy, you know, it's pretty great, and
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: other than her getting all shot free at the end,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: that was some bullshit, you know. But then it's like
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Miss Marvel was like really good.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Miss Marvel was very good because it gave you more
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: that street level type stuff.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: But and also the culture and everything. But I think
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I think the villain was kind of lacking, you know,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: that didn't really hit towards the end.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, you know.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: And so this is the first one I can think
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: of where it's like it starts off strong and an
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: in strong, and it's strong throughout and a lot you know,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: I'm like, there's characters that I grew in loved and
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: then you know, people take wins and losses and you
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: gotta deal with it and it's like a damn you know,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: I did not need that l but that's the way
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: this show is doing. So fucking you know, yes, yeh.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: And I already said the character and the character story alone,
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: the intro of this character, because this serves as the
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: intro of Reeve Williams.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that alone just a plus.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: And then the koutrement of the Eastern Eggs, of the cameos,
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: of the surprises and.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Stuff like that, of where it's going to take. The
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: MCU is like.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Massive, It is inexplicable how important this show is as
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: mentioned sense or even more than WandaVision. Yeah, and and
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: that's the and again, Wanda Visions is the last great
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: what they said, the last great.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: A lot of people would would not argue down on
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: this if you said that.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: Was the last great Disney excuse me, Marvel, im ce
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: you Disney Plus show, You're probably be like, yeah, yeah,
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: there were good things that maybe happen here and there,
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: but just in terms of like fuck up your mind
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: type shit, like completely flip upend the the DNA of
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: what the.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: MCU was like, the last time that happened in the
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: TV show was probably one vision.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Man, it's happening again, and it's happening again.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: We talked about that, not the word reboot, but we
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: say rebirth. The reinvigoration, the new generation, the passing the church.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: This is it.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and we even saw if you saw like like
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: they're on their press run. Now I forgot what show was?
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: What morning show was?
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Robert Donney Jr.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Himself shouted out, like did a recording for both Dominique
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: and and Anthony Ramos in the cast and just saying
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: how much he appreciates it, how much he he loves
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Dominique and loves Ironheart. He said, iron Man loves iron
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Heart the heart and all that stuff, like he like
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: passing the torch literally and figuratively. I don't know how
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: else to share, No, and so well, I mean like
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: and y'all can say, oh, well that was just a mark.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: R DJ then got to do ship. RDJ can say,
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: fuck you, I'm not doing ship, and that'd be the
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: end of that. He did this off his own being
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: and said, I'm gonna cause I fuck with her?
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Did I fuck with the story.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: And even if you didn't look, we're telling you this
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: that joint, you know what I mean? Like RDJ might
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: have got a check, you know, or he might be
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: doing get checks. We don't get this is just look
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: I gotta say, I went in you know, low expectations
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: came out with like wow, blown away, you know, and
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: like maybe like not where I had low expectations and
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: then it was just like average and it was like okay, no,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I had low expectations. And immediately I'm like, well you
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: should have readjusted those expectations. This is great and this
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: is what we Williams deserves, and it's what I expected
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: for her, you know, and what I wanted for just
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: like how I wanted nothing but the best for America
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: is and so far I've not gotten that, just like
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: how I wanted nothing but the best for Monica Rambou
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: and so far I've not gotten that. You know. This
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: was like I wanted anohing but the best for re Rewilliams,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: and I got.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: It and think, yeah, thank you. That's that's really what
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: I have to say as well. Ben, that's a good
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: wrap up, you know, thank you. And I know we've
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: already felt like we said a lot or maybe we
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: have set a lot just in terms of our thoughts.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: But again there's still more that we can't tell you man.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: So much.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: That's that's what's There's a huge that we are these
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: a huge asterism.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: We're not even talking about the ending. I'm not even
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: talking about that.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Jesus, the ending is whoaa say this ending?
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Yes, you know that when we say ay were talking
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: about the last episode. There is also an after credit scene,
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: so make sure y'all stay around for that. But on
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: the last episode. But that being said, like, there's so
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: much we're not telling you right now. Yeah, like we
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: it's such a and am I talking about the end
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: that he just said? We're not talking about the finale.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: We're just talking about there's an aspect of the show
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: that's so deeply it's so deeply consequential that they even
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: introduced it that we can't even talk about it.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: And it's in't a good thing.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: It's a good thing that we can't talk about it.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: So all that to say, I and we have seen
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: the entire series, all six episodes, so we are speaking
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: from from what the fuck we saw, which was basically everything.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: And I say basically because.
• 33:43
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