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- 0:02Coming up on The Children's Hour, we meet the legendary Dr. Lynn Rogers from the North American
- 0:08Bear Center, a research facility and rescue center in Ely, Minnesota. Dr. Rogers is known
- 0:15for his Think Like a Bear research studies, which enabled him to establish trust with
- 0:20a pack of bears. He was able to enter their dens and spend hours by their sides. We learn
- 0:27the facts about bears and what to do if we see one in the wild. And... how they communicate
- 0:33their anxiety and fear. This episode is mixed with very inspired music. Stick with us for
- 0:40The Children's Hour coming right up. The Children's Hour is an independent production of The Children's
- 0:45Hour Incorporated, a New Mexico based non-profit. We're distributed by Native Voice One, the
- 0:51Native American radio network. It's time for The Children's Hour, Kids Public Radio.
- 1:05What's a bear's favorite ice cream? I don't know what! Straw-bear-ry! It's time for The Children's
- 1:17Hour! Kids Public Radio!
- 1:27We've got a learning guide with this episode. Find it at childrenshour.org, look for "Bears"
- 1:57If you go down to the woods today, you're sure of a big surprise. If you go down to
- 2:08the woods today, you better go in disguise. For every bear that ever there was, we'll
- 2:20gather there for certain because today's the day. Teddy bear must have their pick, oh Nick.
- 2:32Every teddy bear who's been good, is sure of a treat today. There's lots of marvelous
- 2:44things to eat, and wonderful games to play. Beneath the trees, where nobody sees They'll
- 2:56hide and seek, as long as they please Cause that's the way, teddy bears have their picnic
- 3:06Picnic uh time for teddy bears. The little teddy bears are having a lovely time today.
- 3:18Watch them, catch them on a whiz and see them picnic on their holiday. See them giddily
- 3:29get about They love to pinch out, they never have any kids At six o'clock their mommies
- 3:38and daddies will take them home to bed Because they're tired little teddy bears oh
- 3:56you
- 4:56In the woods today, you bed and-
- 5:03It's lovely down in the woods today, but safer to stay at home. Every bear that ever there
- 5:15was will gather there together because today's the day that teddy bears have their picnic.
- 5:29Today's the day that teddy bears have their picnic.
- 5:42That's Jerry Garcia and David Grisman from their "Not for Kids Only." I'm Katie Stone. You're
- 5:49listening to The Children's Hour and I'm here with a whole lot of great kids online right
- 5:54now. Hello everyone. Hello. And who's with us today? Hi, it's Amaya. Hi, it's Kodiak.
- 6:02Hi, it's Lucasti. Hello, it's Amadeus. Hi, it's Raymond. Hi, it's Thaniel. Hi, it's Caibiya.
- 6:11Hi, it's Asa. Hi, it's Max. Hi, it's Kilian. Well, everyone, I am so excited to be with
- 6:18you today on The Children's Hour because today we're going to learn about one of my favorite
- 6:23types of animals of all. And I say types of animals because there's lots of this animal,
- 6:29lots of different breeds and varieties. I'm talking about bears. I know we have Kodiak
- 6:36here. You're named after a bear. Is that because you love bears? I think I was named before
- 6:42I really knew if I love bears or not. That's fair. No, it's not fair. It's bear. Oh, that
- 6:53was good. Is anyone else tied to bears, loves bears, have a relationship with bears? Yeah.
- 7:02Raymond. A little. A little. Tell us about it. I like bears. I like bears too. Well, they're definitely
- 7:10my favorite meat eater. Meat eaters. Well, we're gonna learn about that. Like, are bears
- 7:16only meat eaters? Are they even meat eaters? I mean, I think maybe, yeah, they eat fish.
- 7:21Thaniel? I think bears are kind of scary. They live oftentimes kind of close to human settlements,
- 7:28and I feel like that can be a little intimidating. Yeah, because I think we think of them as
- 7:34these kind of like big, untrained, scary, furry, almost like dogs in a way, but they're like
- 7:40way bigger and they have these big snouts and big teeth and, and they do roar which is always
- 7:47a scary thing. Anyone else have a relationship with bears? I like bears. You like bears? Tell
- 7:54us about it. Well I think they're kind of like just big furry hamster. And that's why I think
- 8:01they're very cute. Aww they are so cute and so many of us were given teddy bears as little
- 8:09kids like when we were first born, and I bet a lot of people in our listening audience have
- 8:13teddy bears too. Well, stick with us on The Children's Hour. We're going to meet somebody
- 8:18who has dedicated his life to understanding bears. His name is Dr. Lynn Rogers. He's from
- 8:25the North American Bear Center in Ely, Minnesota. Stick with us. This is The Children's Hour.
- 8:32I went to his room in the middle oh of side and I turned on the light and to my surprise
- 9:04he was nowhere in sight because my Uncle Walter goes waltzing at night he goes wah wah wah
- 9:11waltzing waltzing with bears raggy bears maggie bears shaggy bears too there's nothing on earth
- 9:19Uncle Walter won't do so he can go waltzing wah wah wah waltzing he can go waltzing go
- 9:27waltzing with me We gave Uncle Walter a new coat to wear But when he came home it was
- 9:36covered with air And lately I've noticed several new tears I'm sure Uncle Walter's been waltzing
- 9:44with bears He goes, wa-wa-wa-waltzing waltzing with bears Raggy bears, baggy bears, shaggy
- 9:52bears too There's nothing on earth Uncle Walter won't do So he can go waltzing wa-wa-wa He
- 10:01can go waltzing, go waltzing with me.
- 10:23He told Uncle Walter that he should be good and do all the things we said that he should.
- 10:31But I know he would rather be off in the woods, I'm afraid. was Uncle Walter for good because
- 10:39Wawawawaltzen waltz'n with bears. Raggy bears, baggy bears, shaggy bears do. There's nothing
- 10:47on earth Uncle Walter won't do. So he can go waltz'n. Wawawawaltzen. He can go waltz'n.
- 10:56Go waltz'n with bears. We begged and we pleaded. Oh please, Walter, stay! to keep him home for
- 11:06a day. But the bears all barged in and they dragged him away. Now he's dancing with pandas,
- 11:13he won't understand us. The bears all demand at least one dance a day. Because wah wah
- 11:21wah waltzing waltzing with bears. Raggy bears, baggy bears, shaggy bears too. There's nothing
- 11:29on Uncle Walter won't do so. He can go waltzing. Wa wa waltzing. He can go waltzing. Go waltzing
- 11:39with him. That's Bayou Seco out of Silver City, New Mexico. You're listening to The Children's
- 11:44Hour. I'm Katie Stone and delighted to be with all of you out in listener land and everyone
- 11:50here on Zoom who's on the kids crew. And today we have a very exciting show because we're
- 11:56learning about bears. Our guest is Dr. Lynn Rogers. Dr. Rogers is a biologist and he studies
- 12:05black bears and he's known as the Jane Goodall of bears. Welcome to The Children's Hour. Thanks
- 12:12for having me. Can you hug bears like Jane Goodall? I started out afraid of bears. I grew up afraid
- 12:20of them. Everything I heard about them sounded dangerous. But then as I got studying them,
- 12:27Eventually, I realized they're not as bad as I thought. Not as scary, huh? Right. Well,
- 12:36I'd see them acting blustery, like they were going to do something bad. But I never saw
- 12:44them follow through. Maybe they'd lunge at me and slap the ground and blow. And I thought,
- 12:52boy, that looks scary. Does that mean he's warning me that he's going to attack? They never did.
- 12:58So eventually I realized, boy, I might be able to do what Jane Goodall did with chimpanzees.
- 13:07I might be able to walk with bears and really learn about them. Because all the stuff I'd
- 13:13done before that was capture them, tranquilize them, put radio collars on them, get up an
- 13:21airplane, put dots on maps, see how they moved around. And I thought I knew a lot about bears.
- 13:30But when I really started learning is when I started to overcome my fear and could learn
- 13:36their language and I had to adjust my thinking because I still had some fear, and it worked
- 13:45better if I would interpret their behavior in terms of their fear rather than my fear. How
- 13:52many different types of bears are there and where do they live around the world? There's
- 13:57eight kinds of bears, three of them in North America, the polar bear, the brown bear, also
- 14:04called the grizzly bear, and black bears. In Europe, they have brown bears. They're about
- 14:12the same species. And then there's the moon bear in Asia. There's the sun bear down in
- 14:21South America. And sloth bears in Asia. Which are not related to sloths. Right. Yes. Right.
- 14:31They're a different critter. We certainly have a lot to learn. So we start with, there's
- 14:36eight kinds and they're found really in a lot of parts of the world. And we're going to post
- 14:42a map of that so that you can see where they are. You can find that at ChildrensHour.org.
- 14:49Look for this episode, Bears. Is it true that bears like honey or is that just a big myth?
- 14:56Yes, I've seen them eat honey but when they get to a beehive what they're really after
- 15:03is the young bees, and they'd rather have that with the protein and all than just the sugar
- 15:10in honey. How do they catch the bees? They find a beehive, they tear it open, sometimes
- 15:18they have to use their teeth to get something apart. Sometimes they have to use their lips.
- 15:24But what they often do is just stick their tongue out and they curl the tip down and
- 15:33that area of the tongue just above the tip somehow, and I don't know how they do it, but
- 15:41somehow things stick to that. But when you touch the tongue, it's not sticky. There's still
- 15:49some mysteries about bears. Bears have enough fur. Most of the year they have at least two
- 15:57inches and when they really have big fur it's like four or five inches deep. So it's hard
- 16:05for the bees to get down, but the bear is trying to get them with its mouth and they have very
- 16:13short hair on the muzzle. So that's where they would get stung. And on the ears. Do we
- 16:21consider bees meat? I think so, right? Like, so that's like not necessarily vegetarian.
- 16:27Well, it depends on the kind of bear. Polar bears eat mostly meat. Black bears eat mostly
- 16:34vegetation, insects. Well, that's kind of meat, yeah, but it's berries, nuts are the big favorites.
- 16:45You talked a little bit about the different types of bears. And there seem to be a huge
- 16:51variety. So what I'm wondering, what is a bear actually? What makes a bear a bear? Bears
- 17:00are actually in the dog family, but dogs are more group living animals, where bears are
- 17:08mostly solitary. And they're big, strong animals, all of them. And they're some of the smartest
- 17:16animals on the planet. You're hearing from one of the world's foremost bear researchers.
- 17:23His name is Dr. Lynn Rogers. He is the founder of the North American Bear Center in Ely, Minnesota.
- 17:31And you're listening to The Children's Hour where we're learning about bears.
- 17:38This is Lyle Lovett, right here on The Children's Hour.
- 17:54Some folks say there ain't no bears in Arkansas Some folks never seen a bear at all Some
- 18:05folks say the bears go round eating Davis Roe Some folks got a bear across the hole Some
- 18:15folks say the bears go round smelling bears folks say that a bear is honey sweet Some folks
- 18:25say this bear is the best I ever had Some folks got a bear beneath their Some folks drive the
- 18:35bears out of the wilderness Some to see a bear or a
- 18:45Just bear up to my business Some folks you can see in
- 19:13Some folks drive the bears out of It's time to see if it will pay for I just bear up to
- 19:25my bill, well the best Some folks even seen the bear So meet a bear and take him on out
- 19:35to lunch with you Even though your friends may stop and stare
- 19:52So meet up there and take him on out to lunch with you friends may stop instead I just
- 20:02remember that's a bear there And I'm much with you And it just don't come no better than a
- 20:09bear
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- 23:13there.
- 23:42This is The Children's Hour. You just heard Black Bear by Black Bear. And we're thinking
- 23:48about bears because we're learning about bears. We're joined today by Lynn Rogers. Dr. Rogers
- 23:56is the director and founder of the North American Bear Center. It is in Ely, Minnesota. And
- 24:03he joins us from Ely. The kids have a lot of questions for you. Let's go over to Marcel.
- 24:09How big are bears? Well, the Sun Bear is the smallest bear. They'd be like a hundred pounds.
- 24:17But black bears, the heaviest one on record is nine hundred and two pounds. But when I
- 24:24look at a bear, I'm not thinking really how big it is. I'm just thinking, what is its temperament?
- 24:31What is its personality? And is this the bear I can get to know? Because the way, the way
- 24:39I do research, I started out by capturing bears, tranquilizing them so they wouldn't hurt me
- 24:48and they'd hold still, let me take measurements. I really wasn't learning a lot about what bears
- 24:55are really like. So your interest was really more into their behavior and their lifestyle
- 25:04and things like that. That's the stuff I had to learn to really know their ways and their
- 25:12needs. That's what I had to know to know if I could be close to a bear without getting
- 25:20hurt, as I got to know that they're not the dangerous animals I thought, that they can
- 25:27build trust. And once they trust you, they don't do their blustery, scary stuff. They
- 25:35just do that because they are feeling anxiety. And when they're not feeling anxiety anymore,
- 25:42they're just calm and I can walk with them, spend the night with them right next to them,
- 25:49and never have to worry. How old do bears typically live and does that change a lot whether they're
- 25:56in captivity or not? Well, yes, they have a better chance of living into their 30s if they're
- 26:04in captivity. but most of them die in their 20s. It just depends on, it depends on so
- 26:13much. The fear of bears is so prominent that in many places, if people see a bear that
- 26:24has lost some fear of people, then they fear that here's a bear that would dare to attack
- 26:31and kill me. People feel way better if they see a bear running away. Well, I mean, I have
- 26:37to admit I've seen a bear in the wild and I felt better when it ran away. I did. And I
- 26:45was scared when it was near me because there was a part of me, instinctively it felt like,
- 26:51that knew I should be careful. Because they're powerful. And I think we have a natural fear
- 26:58of any animal that has bigger, more pointed teeth than we have. That seems like a reasonable
- 27:06fear, you know, of animals with big teeth. It's an animal that could do some damage. But what I have
- 27:14done with bears actually is as I got to know them and I started thinking about their behavior
- 27:21in terms of their fear rather than my fear. And if I'd see a bear jump towards me and slam
- 27:31its feet down and blow. look really scary, I'd say, I'm sorry Bear, here let me lay down.
- 27:37Do you feel better now? What I wanted to do for research is be trusted, like Jane Goodall
- 27:46was with the chimpanzees. So I would act in ways that would build trust, not build fear.
- 27:54Then I'd lay down, I'd throw food to them, I'd throw it closer and closer. And they dared
- 28:01to come closer if I was laying down. And as time went on, the bears that really trusted
- 28:07me would ignore me. They'd just go about their lives. That meant I could learn a lot. I could
- 28:15be with a mother with cubs in the woods. She wouldn't think about attacking me. He's just
- 28:22there. He's part of the woodwork. And as they grew to ignore me, then I could be right with
- 28:28them, within touching distance, and then I could count how many bites they take of each
- 28:35food, in each habitat, how they spend their time. I'd end up with 24 hours of complete
- 28:44data what a bear does in a day. It just makes a person feel comfortable with a wild bear
- 28:51that trusts you. Now not all bears can become trusting. I think about bear behavior, everything
- 28:59I say, like a bell-shaped curve. So what that means is like most of the bears behave in this,
- 29:06like in the center, like this, but some bears are a little one way and some bears are a little
- 29:12another way, just kind of like people. I was wondering, so if you could have like a dog
- 29:17as a pet, could you have a bear as a pet? Some people do. Actually, there's a time in their
- 29:24life when they decide what is good and bad around them. And that's between six and twelve weeks
- 29:32of age. That's when they're a little newborn cub in a den, and at six weeks they start
- 29:39to open their eyes. At about twelve weeks they leave the den. Well, during that six week
- 29:46period they decide who's good and who's bad. And if you get a bear when it's that age,
- 29:53it will bond with you. After that, it's harder to get it to bond with you. That's why the
- 30:00bears that I walk with are not bonded with me. They just ignore me because I'm nothing to
- 30:07them. It's probably terribly unkind to take a bear between six weeks and 12 weeks old.
- 30:13It's certainly not the life it would want. But when we have seen bears in places like circuses,
- 30:20that must be how they tamed them and trained them. Bears that they want to train, the 6
- 30:27to twelve week period is when they bond with their owner who is feeding them bottles and stuff
- 30:34to raise them so that they trust each other. And then as they get older and older, they
- 30:41train the bears using food. You get a treat if you do this. Ah. Our guest is Dr. Lynn Rogers.
- 30:51And he has shown the world that bears are not as scary as we might think at first. We have
- 30:59a lot more questions for him and a lot more to learn about bears. You're listening to The
- 31:03Children's Hour, stick with us. If you care about bears, should be aware There are eight
- 31:12unique species to compare Some are fairly common, some extremely rare We have a few bare
- 31:27facts to share I'm talking about Polar Bears, Sun Bears, Moon Bears, Sloth Bears, Spectacled
- 31:36Panda, Brown Bear, Black Bear, One thing in common, they love to eat. We've named all
- 31:43eight, now let's repeat. Polar Bears, Sun Bear, Moon Bears, Sloth Bears, Spectacled Panda,
- 31:49Brown Bear, Black Bear, What makes a brown bear different from a black? Let's go down the list,
- 31:55share a few more facts.
- 32:04Polar bears are pigeon-toed, they walk on ice, blend in with the snow, but they're really
- 32:09not white. Their skin is black, their fur is clear, they come from the Arctic far away from
- 32:15here. bears love to eat honey and bees, they climb through the trees like chimpanzees from
- 32:25Southeast Asia, smallest bear of all. Some people say that they look like dogs. Moon bears also
- 32:36called Asian blacks On their chest is a large, light triangle patch They live in trees Throughout
- 32:43the year They got a fluffy black collar and Mickey Mouse ears Sloth bears Black and shaggy
- 32:51with long white claws People used to think they were related to sloths Bull with a snout tongue
- 32:58hanging to the ground They suck up bugs with a slurping sound Spectacle bears
- 33:08They get their name from a pattern on their face Only bear found in South America today
- 33:14Build nesting trees by folding leaves Mothers sing their cubs to sleep Panda bear has mysterious
- 33:26ways They eat bamboo twelve hours a day In an all green forest, they're black and white
- 33:33Didn't quite get the camouflage right Even so, they're still hard to find Their population
- 33:41is in decline Trying to protect the remaining few But they don't seem to like to have babies
- 33:48in zoos Brown bears have a big hump on their back Talkin' bout the grizzly and the Kodiak
- 33:58They're extremely fast, active after nightfall Most widely distributed bear of all There
- 34:07are far more black bears than any other kind Populated areas that don't seem to mind Sometimes
- 34:14are colored brown, cinnamon or white Much more active by day than night Polar bears, sun
- 34:21bears, moon bears, swamp bears Spectacle panda, brown bear, black bear One thing in common,
- 34:27they love to eat We've named all eight but no time to repeat We're getting to the end,
- 34:34just about through Hope you learned a little fast. That's Key Wilde and Mr. Clarke. You're
- 34:50listening to The Children's Hour. Our guest today is Dr. Lynn Rogers. He is a biologist who has
- 34:56spent his life studying bears. Kodiak. Where do bears live? It depends on what kind of
- 35:03bear it is. In North America, polar bears of course, live up in the Arctic. Do they make
- 35:09dens in the snow? Do they live in little snow dens? Yup, right they do. They find big piles
- 35:17of snow, they dig into them, they have their cubs in the winter, they snuggle the cubs
- 35:23to keep them warm. And we think of bears as living in things like caves and holes they
- 35:31dig. That's how they live, right? Like when we see a cave, there very well could be a bear
- 35:36at the back of that cave. Could be, yes. For black bears, they make any kind of den you
- 35:42could ever think of. Sometimes it's a burrow in the ground. Sometimes it's a hollow tree.
- 35:49Sometimes it's a big pile of grass that they raked up on the surface of the ground, usually
- 35:57where they can stay out of the wind. Yeah, it could be just about anything. Under somebody's
- 36:02porch. Wow. You've talked a little bit about how you've walked with bears and have fed them,
- 36:10but I don't think that's something lots of everyday people should do. So how should an everyday
- 36:16person act when they see a bear or they know they're in an area with bears? Well, if a person
- 36:23wants to feel totally safe, I would carry a little can of Halt. That's a kind of pepper
- 36:30spray. But. it's weaker than the usual pepper spray. Actually, I remember testing pepper
- 36:38spray. Then they said, yeah, but how do you know where the bear is not going to get mad
- 36:42and kill you? I said, I don't think it will. Well, nobody dared to test it. So I was the
- 36:48first one that tested pepper spray face to face with a bear without a fence between with wild
- 36:56bears. So we have you to thank for bear spray. That's pretty cool. You can learn more about
- 37:02what Dr. Rogers has written about this very topic. We've put links at childrenshour.org.
- 37:07Look for this episode, Bears. What do black bears prefer to eat? Actually, certain kinds
- 37:15of nuts are, I believe, their favorites. Hazelnuts, acorns, beech nuts, hickory nuts. They also
- 37:26like berries. But if those foods aren't available, like it was a frost or a drought and the berries
- 37:33didn't develop, then they're going to be eating more vegetation. And that would be like the
- 37:42nicest green young grasses where the nutrients are still in a fluid form and they're easy
- 37:49to digest. But not fish. Yes, they do. But when I have walked with bears that were in areas
- 37:57where they would be fishing, if there was a good berry crop back in the woods, they'd forget
- 38:02the fish and go back and eat berries. But on the other hand, brown bears get way bigger than
- 38:10grizzly bears because they have fish and that's a nutritious food. They prefer the fish eggs.
- 38:18If there's a lot of fish, they'll catch a fish, they'll bite the brain and eat the eggs.
- 38:25They leave the rest. If there's not a lot of fish and they're hungry, well, they'll eat
- 38:30the whole fish. What does a bear's fur feel like on different types? So what do the different
- 38:38types of fur feel like? Are they really soft? I'm imagining them feel a little bit like a
- 38:43kitten in there. It's not as fine a fur as a kitten. It's coarser fur, and two types.
- 38:53There's the guard hairs, that's the big fur that you see. Then under that is the under
- 38:59fur, and that's much finer fur, more like cat fur. They grow the under fur to keep them
- 39:06warm in winter. Then in the spring they lose the under fur and eventually they shed the
- 39:12guard hairs and start with brand new hair coming out, making a nice smooth look to their fur.
- 39:20Are pandas bears? Yes. But they're not true bears? Oh, they are not. Yeah. But they're the
- 39:31most vegetarian of the bears. They eat a lot of bamboo. I don't know any other bear that
- 39:38could survive like that. That's the voice of Dr. Lynn Rogers. He's the founder and principal
- 39:45biologist at the North American Bear Center in Ely, Minnesota. You're listening to The
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- 41:23there. Share
- 41:31Some are soop-y-ole! Yogi Bear, that's a bear! Teddy Bear, that's a bear! Poo Bear, that's
- 41:37a bear! They're all bears! Fozzie Bear, that's a bear! Smokey Bear, that's a bear! Koala Bear!
- 41:44oh It's a marsupial! That's not a Bear is Scott and Rosanna, here on The Children's Hour where we're learning about what is a bear
- 42:18with Dr. Lynn Rogers. He's the founder and chief biologist over at the North American
- 42:26Bear Center located in Ely, Minnesota. And Dr. Rogers, you've used some pretty extraordinary
- 42:34methods to learn about bears. One of the things you're famous for is you put a live webcam
- 42:42in a bear cave while there was a bear in the bear cave, was the bear in the bear cave when
- 42:49you did this? Oh yeah, right, yeah. It was one of the most popular live cams ever. It changed
- 42:57the way people thought bears behaved from then on. People started to see bears and think they're
- 43:04the cutest thing I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, but what happened was just amazing.
- 43:09I couldn't believe it. Two days later, that bear was the number one search topic on Google
- 43:17in the world. And people pretty soon were in 132 countries watching the mother give
- 43:25birth and then watching her tenderly care for the cubs, watch her lick the amniotic
- 43:34fluids and tissues off the cub, tuck the cub underneath her to keep it warm, and they saw
- 43:41how tenderly the mother cared for bears. People started to think of these as more thinking
- 43:47animals than ferocious animals. And it changed a lot of opinions around the world. Earlier,
- 43:55you said that you knew that like a bear was a little bit annoyed with you when they made
- 44:00a blow chomp sound. That was a bear expressing great anxiety. That was a bear that had just
- 44:16pounced to me, slammed its feet down and clacked its jaws together. That's what that clacking
- 44:24was. That scared me for a long time because I thought, here it is showing me its big claws
- 44:32coming through the air and slamming down to the ground, showing how hard they could slam,
- 44:38lunging toward you, coming way too close to feel comfortable, you know, like two, three
- 44:44feet away. And then it blows, looks, sounds ferocious, clacks its jaws, which I thought
- 44:51was demonstrating its weapons. But then I realized eventually that that was just expressing their
- 44:59own anxiety. So I would say, I'm sorry bear, I'm scaring you. I'd lay down so it wouldn't
- 45:05be a threat. And then the bear would calm down. This is the sound of a nursing bear.
- 45:19Yeah, that's several cubs, probably three cubs all nursing at the same time. They make that
- 45:24weird little sound, that weird little like, grrr. Yeah. When I get to a den of a female
- 45:31in the winter, that's the sound I'm listening for. Does she have cubs? Oh, interesting.
- 45:35So you can be outside the den. Can you hear this sound outside the den? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
- 45:41It carries for quite a ways. Wow. This is tongue clicking.
- 45:49Are you sure that's not you playing ping pong? No, that's what males sound like when they're
- 45:58approaching a female. That sound means I want to be near you. I wanted to ask the kids.
- 46:05I'm going to play this next one. I just want to know what emotion do you think the bear
- 46:12is trying to convey if you heard this?
- 46:34That sounds kind of sad. The situation of the mourning sound was it was a mother that
- 46:44had three cubs. One was missing and she's nursing the two cubs that she has, but she's making
- 46:54this mourning sound missing that cub. But then when she got reunited with that cub, she stopped
- 47:04saying it right away. And she was just happy to have the cub back. And I asked a class of
- 47:11kids in school once, what was that bear saying with that? And they said the bear was crying.
- 47:17And I thought they got it right. That sounds so sad. Dr. Rogers, it has been a pleasure
- 47:25to have you with us on The Children's Hour. Do you have any closing thoughts you'd like
- 47:29to leave with our listeners about bears? It was a pleasure for me too. I like talking
- 47:35about bears and here's people that have thought and thought with good questions. And thank
- 47:42you very much for having me. Thank you so much for being with us. We've got links and so much
- 47:49more posted at childrenshour.org. Look for this episode, Bears. This is Red Yarn, right here
- 47:59on The Children's Hour.
- 48:07I'm tell you a little story about Scary little story about Be careful when you're going out
- 48:19For the nefarious, the notorious, the grizzly bear When they are out and walking out
- 48:29world's just coming up and amping down When it's all ready, grizzly, grizzly, bam
- 48:57from his shoulder They're busy, they're Wobblin' and squoppin' ass Stumpin' and jumpin' ass
- 49:23you
- 49:48He was beside me, he looked me in the eyes He said, better say the bible I was frozen
- 49:59in my tracks, yeah I started slowly creeping back, yeah I spun and tore off in a flash,
- 50:07Women were racing and chasing me, grizzly bear uh
- 50:19you
- 50:28baby
- 50:32Best be he's with Lerun She is you Let him
- 51:15You've been listening to The Children's Hour and we've been learning about bears today on
- 51:20the show. Our guest was Dr. Lynn Rogers from the North American Bear Center in Ely, Minnesota.
- 51:27The center is a unique place that is dedicated to teaching people all about bears, especially
- 51:33the black bears that are native to North America. The center is home to several rescued black
- 51:39bears to help educate visitors through live demonstrations and bear talks. And that helps
- 51:45people understand and appreciate bears and their role in nature. There's a learning guide posted
- 51:53with this episode. You can find it at childrenshour.org. Look for Bears. We have time for one more
- 52:00story song for you. This is Fred Small, and it's a story about Larry the polar bear. It's
- 52:07a true story. And I wonder if you were Larry the polar bear, what would you do? I'm Katie
- 52:14Stone, we'll catch you next time for another edition of The Children's Hour. Thanks for
- 52:18listening.
- 52:30In 1932, at a zoo in Los Angeles, a polar bear named Larry performed for the crowd.
- 52:41They'd cheer aloud. He'd go slipping and sliding, jumping and diving. The people would laugh.
- 52:52They took his photograph. you He grew older colder than Los Angeles which is warmer
- 53:13than Alaska where Larry's parents were born Larry the polar bear He'd never harm a hare
- 53:30On a child's head He'd do tricks for them At the Los Angeles Zoo As he'd been taught
- 53:40to By his keeper friend Teach him new tricks. funny pose, scratching his nose. He knew
- 53:54there'd be a fish at the end. Friend was his friend. One day she said, Larry, you'll be
- 54:02in the movies with real movie stars and a few simple tricks and lots of fish to be filmed
- 54:14on location in Alaska. So they rehearsed for Larry's big scene He was supposed to be mean
- 54:25and growl at a woman Who was rescued by a man who scared him away It was stupid, but fun
- 54:35to do The director would frown and jump up and down Kind of like the chimps at the zoo
- 54:53uh He'd tricks for them at the Los Angeles Zoo As he'd been taught to by his keeper friend
- 55:07At last came the day of the trip They put Larry in a crate, twelve foot by eight And he sailed
- 55:18aboard a steamship The journey was long
- 55:27Fran would visit. She'd talk to him and bring him his favorite fish. Then the noise and
- 55:38the rumbling stopped and they lowered him down, set the crate on the frozen ground.
- 55:54Fran said, Larry, we're here. It's time for your tricks And Larry appeared
- 56:10He looked out at the gray-bearing sea He squinted and puzzled Put his nose to the wind And
- 56:20the scent of the seal made him tremble He smelled the fox in its lair, and the weasel and hare
- 56:31Felt like an unsnow beneath his paws, and he looked at the tundra and ice, looked at the
- 56:39loon in the sky, and he ran.
- 56:49Slowly and first
- 57:07stronger to run and to swim to dive and to float to the core that is throat He uh
- 57:34world
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- 58:11This episode of The Children's Hour was written and produced by me, Katie Stone, with help
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