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INTERVIEW: Miguel Talks 'CAOS,' Parenthood, Ex-Wife, Love, Anger, Heritage, Reaching Clarity, U.S. Crises +More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 2: Rossa is here and we got a very special guest,
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Speaker 2: one of my favorite artists man, and I am so
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Speaker 2: glad he got some new music coming out.
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Speaker 3: Miguel is here, ladies.
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Speaker 1: What's up? What's up?
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Speaker 3: Brother?
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Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good. How you guys doing Blessed Black
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Speaker 1: and Holly Face? That's right, Blessed and Black and highly favored,
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Speaker 1: is right.
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Speaker 3: I'm just happy you putting out music man. And it's funny.
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Speaker 2: We were literally having a conversation on the radio recently,
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Speaker 2: like in the last.
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Speaker 3: Week or two about what's up with Miguel.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Miguel, that's crazy.
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Speaker 4: I think we talked about Michel too. Thomas was here
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Speaker 4: probably yea, because.
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Speaker 5: You got timeless records man, Like you know, even though
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Speaker 5: we've been waiting for you, like, it's still things that
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Speaker 5: we can go back and listen to and it's forever
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Speaker 5: a classic.
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Speaker 1: So thank you for saying that. Yeah, I mean, I've
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Speaker 1: been feeling the same way though. It's time. It's been time,
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Speaker 1: so I'm excited to be back out. We got we
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Speaker 1: have a few records alread out and the album's out
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Speaker 1: October twenty third, so you know, I'm just kind of
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Speaker 1: getting it. We're doing the thing.
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Speaker 6: The name of the album is called Chaos. Yes, yes,
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Speaker 6: it's about that. Break that down a little bit, man.
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Speaker 1: I feel it's everywhere, you know, just look out and
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Speaker 1: you know, pull up your phone. I feel like it's
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Speaker 1: probably the best word for the times that we live in.
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Speaker 1: And so you know, I made an album about how
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Speaker 1: that's been a big part of my growth, and I mean,
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Speaker 1: I think it's an inflection point, you know. I think overall,
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Speaker 1: when we go through crazy and trying times, it's an
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Speaker 1: opportunity for us to really take that in, to make it,
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Speaker 1: you know, clarifying. And so that's what this album really is.
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Speaker 1: I think it's my most like relatable.
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Speaker 6: Album obviously Where Were You?
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Speaker 1: Also my most angry and horny album.
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Speaker 6: Oh I love how Angry Horny.
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Speaker 4: Even the production of it gives it's like anger, but
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Speaker 4: then there's like a colectic like come over here vibe,
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Speaker 4: Like yeah, it's a lot of it. I think you're
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Speaker 4: about the is where were you, like.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, where were you mentally and emotionally and creating the album?
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Speaker 1: Oh? Everywhere? I feel it. It's to be Uh, it
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Speaker 1: spans eight years. You know, it's been eight years since
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Speaker 1: I put out my last album, Warren Leisure, And you know,
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Speaker 1: we've been through you know, pandemic. We've been through everything.
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Speaker 1: I mean apparently we we we we made it through
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Speaker 1: the rapture. Apparently. I'm like, yeah, we're supposed to see
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Speaker 1: aliens in a couple of weeks. I don't know. It's
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Speaker 1: it's it's everything everywhere, all at once, at all times.
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Speaker 1: And so the head space has been pretty pretty much
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Speaker 1: reflective of that. It's like we're I feel we're doing
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Speaker 1: the best we can. It's a lot of pressure right now,
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Speaker 1: and that's what really created the album.
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Speaker 2: I think, by the way, eight years isn't a long
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Speaker 2: time because there's certain artists, you know, you Jill Scott, Ericabadundrick.
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Speaker 2: I don't need you all to put out records every year. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I mean put out records when the spirit moves.
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Speaker 1: Valid yeah yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: And you know, you've always been proud of your Mexican roots,
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Speaker 2: but it seems like you're leaning into the more deeply.
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Speaker 3: Now, what inspired that shift? Man?
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Speaker 1: That's ah, that's digging and and really get into I
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Speaker 1: really didn't want to do music anymore. I was getting
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Speaker 1: to a place where I was like, and the reason
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Speaker 1: why is which I feel like, you know in your
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Speaker 1: books and man, congratulations bro, because the last time I
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Speaker 1: was you know, it was before you publish your first book.
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Speaker 1: So congratulations.
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Speaker 4: Man.
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Speaker 1: Maybe it's an incredible feat that's like up there with
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Speaker 1: like running a marathon. You know, it's like, I'm probably
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Speaker 1: never going to run a marathon or write a book,
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Speaker 1: but you know, yeah, yeah, why didn't.
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Speaker 5: You want to do music?
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Speaker 6: Why did you almost walk away from it?
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Speaker 1: Uh? My priority, the way I was prioritizing, how it
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Speaker 1: affected my my sense of myself. You know, I think
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Speaker 1: I entered into my career as a musician, as an
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Speaker 1: artist with the idea of becoming someone that was on
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Speaker 1: the main stage and on the you know, TV screen,
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Speaker 1: doing the getting the record. And we've been very blessed,
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Speaker 1: very blessed to have an audience who've given us that platform.
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Speaker 1: You know, I have an amazing audience and I love
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Speaker 1: them deeply and they've really made my music successful. And
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Speaker 1: I think that can take priority of, you know, and
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Speaker 1: really rents the real purpose of creating from one's own motivation,
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Speaker 1: and it can kind of like cannibalize the whole experience
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Speaker 1: because then you start to not expect but you're aiming for. Well,
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Speaker 1: if the record didn't do as good as this one,
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Speaker 1: and then it kind of robs the value. And I
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Speaker 1: need to take some time to figure out what was
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Speaker 1: going to be my motivation moving forward, you know, to
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Speaker 1: be fair, and I never stopped making music, but I
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Speaker 1: think the act of putting music out, especially with the
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Speaker 1: industry changing. I mean, you've seen the industry change. We've
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Speaker 1: gone through revolutions of new ways of putting out records.
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Speaker 1: I know you guys are seeing it because you're seeing
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Speaker 1: the artists and you're seeing how it all moves. It
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Speaker 1: was a very different game when I came in, you know,
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Speaker 1: and it was you had CDs. Yes, we had seen
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Speaker 1: it was real physical. I mean, wet CDs are coming
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Speaker 1: back now, it's crazy. But it was a very different game.
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Speaker 1: And and I think learning, relearning, refinding my my love,
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Speaker 1: and also doing some real hard work on me figuring
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Speaker 1: out where I'm at, Like, let me just check in
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Speaker 1: I forgot that I've been on a run for some time.
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Speaker 1: I didn't take time.
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Speaker 3: So was leaning into your heritage part of that, though.
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Speaker 1: It became it became a natural part of it because
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Speaker 1: really doing trying to understand, you know, where my decisions,
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Speaker 1: my decision making were becoming habitual and not really like thought.
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Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't really thinking things through. It was
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Speaker 1: like knee jerk reactions to things and just looking at
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Speaker 1: where I was and where I wanted to be and
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Speaker 1: the discrepancy between that, you know, I had to you
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Speaker 1: know now everybody, which is a great thing. It's like,
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Speaker 1: you know, going and doing therapy and meditation and on
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Speaker 1: all of my self work and shadow work and whatnot.
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Speaker 1: I think it just naturally pushed me into really getting
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Speaker 1: to know and be appreciative. Not that I was never
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Speaker 1: I was always super And you know this, I've always said,
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Speaker 1: I'm black and Mexican. I'm Mexican black, you know, always
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Speaker 1: proud of it, but really like having a like sense
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Speaker 1: of it. And the things that I looked back and
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Speaker 1: thought were kind of I don't want to say, I
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Speaker 1: look at them so much more as blessings then as challenges.
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Speaker 1: I always felt that growing up my heritage, it was
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Speaker 1: a challenge. I'm like, man, why am I always having
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Speaker 1: to proved myself? Like why do I I'm with these people?
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Speaker 1: I feel like I got to prove it I'm this Black,
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Speaker 1: or I'm with these people. I got to prove it
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Speaker 1: I'm this Mexican. And over these eight years, I think
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Speaker 1: taking that time has really given me a sense of pride.
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Speaker 1: And I look back and I'm like, man, I'm so
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Speaker 1: proud that it's given me a unique perspective and it's
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Speaker 1: given me a unique positioning. And also how I am
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Speaker 1: with people and who I am with people is a
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Speaker 1: reflection of the cultures that I've been blessed to take
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Speaker 1: me and you know, throw their arms around me, and
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Speaker 1: they have that so naturally. I think with that, I've
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Speaker 1: explored more of my songwriting. It's made its way into
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Speaker 1: my songwriting. It certainly made its way into me. And also,
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Speaker 1: as you become a.
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Speaker 6: Parent, you know, congratulate thanks so much.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you become a parent and you really start
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Speaker 1: to look get the things that were great about your child,
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Speaker 1: the things you love about it, and things that are
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Speaker 1: worth passing on, as well as the things that you
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Speaker 1: definitely do not want to pass on. So so you know,
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Speaker 1: leaning leaning in and in all these different ways and
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Speaker 1: all the cultural just the beautiful cultural things that I've
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Speaker 1: been blessed with, was a very natural thing.
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Speaker 4: Did you feel like at one point you talk about
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Speaker 4: making it to the big stages and being a different
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Speaker 4: place now about your heritage. Did you feel like at
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Speaker 4: one point you couldn't lean into your heritage because it
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Speaker 4: wouldn't get you to that mainstage. Because even in your
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Speaker 4: music on this album, you're speaking in Spanish and all
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Speaker 4: the things that we didn't hear a lot from you.
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Speaker 3: Your name is Miguel, Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 4: But that's a lot of people.
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Speaker 1: I don't think.
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Speaker 4: I don't think there's a lot of people that would
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Speaker 4: know that You're like, I'm Mexican, Like this is my
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Speaker 4: heritage first. Like, to be honest with you, I think
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Speaker 4: we look at you as like a mainstream rock star
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Speaker 4: artist and we don't think about your heritage just love.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the in the past, it's always been that
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Speaker 1: I never wanted to lean on it as a crutch.
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Speaker 1: I was very I was very aware that there was
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Speaker 1: pressure like why don't you just do the do the
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Speaker 1: Spanish man and and also different game at the time too.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't like Latin music was a premiere you know,
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Speaker 1: big you know, it wasn't a big market here, but
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Speaker 1: it also was. It was one of those things that
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Speaker 1: I never wanted to do that it didn't feel natural,
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Speaker 1: you know, it didn't feel authentic. And there was a
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Speaker 1: time in my career kind of towards the towards, like
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Speaker 1: the towards wild Heart, that I wanted to make it more,
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Speaker 1: really start exploring it. I took a trip to you know,
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Speaker 1: my where my family's from, Salmone Mechacan in Mexico, and
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Speaker 1: that was kind of the beginning of really getting in
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Speaker 1: and like wanting to wanting to wanting it to feel natural.
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Speaker 1: And so I think since then it being like, you know,
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Speaker 1: five six years naturally, it's become more and more. But
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you, becoming a parent will do it. You'll
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Speaker 1: really just start to look at everything.
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Speaker 5: Listen, congratulations, how it's fatherhood is incredible.
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Speaker 1: It's the most is I've I don't sleep, but I'm
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Speaker 1: the most I got the most energy I've ever had.
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Speaker 1: I am. I also feel so much more sure about
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Speaker 1: what is, what is and what isn't for me, you know,
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Speaker 1: it'll definitely do that. You'll be like, nah, absolutely no.
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Speaker 1: You know, you start cutting things out and you realize how.
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Speaker 3: Precious time is.
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Speaker 2: Man anything that takes away from it, This little being
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Speaker 2: I gotta raise over here.
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Speaker 3: You gotta be worth it.
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Speaker 1: It's gotta be worth it. It better be. And don't
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Speaker 1: play with my time, you know. So I just I
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Speaker 1: try and maximize as much as I possibly can. And
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Speaker 1: and it's made us, you know, in terms of creating.
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Speaker 1: It just I don't know, I feel I'm the most inspired.
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Speaker 1: Even my next ten years are more clear. You know,
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Speaker 1: I started a company I think it was. He's, you know,
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Speaker 1: a catalyst for a lot of where I'm at and
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Speaker 1: where I'm going.
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Speaker 2: So, yeah, I'm glad that you've been doing the work
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Speaker 2: on yourself. Do you do you feel like leaning into
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Speaker 2: your heritage now is also about healing, like maybe reclaiming
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Speaker 2: parts of your culture or history that weren't always centered
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Speaker 2: for you growing up.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's it's one of the blessings that I feel
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Speaker 1: come with that. You know, when you start to really
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Speaker 1: look at yourself and you're like, okay, well who am I?
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Speaker 1: You know, who do I want to be? Who am
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Speaker 1: I really proud to be and what are the things
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Speaker 1: that I'm not Really, I can't really take this with me.
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Speaker 1: It's not gonna It may have gotten me here, but
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Speaker 1: it's not going to get me where I want to go,
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Speaker 1: you know. And and all of that has been sort
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Speaker 1: of happening in tandem, you know, one kind of like
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Speaker 1: informs the other.
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Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, you still care about numbers and winning
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Speaker 5: awards and stuff.
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Speaker 1: Oh no, we want to win awards, of course. Don't
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Speaker 1: get me wrong. I'm happy to receive an award if
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Speaker 1: it's if it's granted, But I don't show up with
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Speaker 1: an expectation or or that being the And you know what,
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna be real with you. I used to
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Speaker 1: say that. I used to say, like, nah, I'm not
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Speaker 1: tripping on no, but I'll be I'll be mad. I'll
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Speaker 1: be I'll be so mad I wasn't nominated or if
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Speaker 1: I didn't get it or what have you. But and
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Speaker 1: you know what, if it's to happen again and I
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Speaker 1: do or I don't, I'm sure i'll feel away. But
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Speaker 1: I also know that it took a long time to
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Speaker 1: refine the like the love or just create just to
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Speaker 1: just to make something and be excited about it, just
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Speaker 1: to find that I'll never let go of that again.
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Speaker 1: I will never I'll never let any of the And
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Speaker 1: also because even the conversation with this album, it's it's
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Speaker 1: about me peeling back layers and having a conversarial with
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Speaker 1: my audience. That's not about like, let me make a
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Speaker 1: song that everyone's going to sing and then hopefully it
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Speaker 1: becomes a big song and then I get the thing.
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Speaker 1: The whole intention is like I'm telling you like it
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Speaker 1: hurts to be human, you know, I'm telling you, like, man,
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Speaker 1: sometimes I lose myself sometimes. I that's to have a conversation.
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Speaker 1: That's not about I didn't write. I didn't go in
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Speaker 1: like I'm going to write the big record. I wrote this.
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Speaker 1: I wrote the album that was like I want to
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Speaker 1: have a conversation, which means that I'm I'm showing up
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Speaker 1: to have a deeper relationship with my audience. That means
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Speaker 1: that the music and everything that that happens with that
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Speaker 1: it's about the personal. It's about the personal thing. It's
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Speaker 1: like the intimacy.
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Speaker 2: I feel like you can hear it in the album though,
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Speaker 2: like like what's something you've unlearned in order to grow
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Speaker 2: as both a man and artist.
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Speaker 1: Unlearned to grow as both a man and an artist.
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Speaker 1: You know, we have a lot of people that support
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Speaker 1: us all the time, but you have to be so
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Speaker 1: clear with yourself. You have to have ultimate clarity about
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Speaker 1: what you want. If you're not clear, you're susceptible to
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Speaker 1: being pulled and swayed by different in different directions, and
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Speaker 1: lots of directions have great things about them, and they
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Speaker 1: can be pitched to you and be colored in ways
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Speaker 1: that make you want to go that way. Without clarity,
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Speaker 1: you're susceptible to and as millions of past you know,
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Speaker 1: it's just like a man. I could think of a million,
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Speaker 1: you know, ways where something could be can look really nice,
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Speaker 1: but you have without ultimate clarity of where you want
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Speaker 1: to go and what you really want to do and
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Speaker 1: how you want to feel. Oh that's what it is.
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Speaker 1: Have clarity about how you want to feel. I think
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Speaker 1: that because before I was like, I know I want
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Speaker 1: to be you know, I want to be an artist
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Speaker 1: that's known for making music that's timeless, or if that
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Speaker 1: is true, it's at his core, there's a soul there
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Speaker 1: and I was very successful at doing that, but I
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Speaker 1: wasn't to have clarity about how I wanted to feel
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Speaker 1: about being a musician, being an artist, and so having
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Speaker 1: clarity about how you feel is important.
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Speaker 2: The reason that's so powerful is they'll tell you right like, like,
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Speaker 2: you know you listening to the album. I listened to
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Speaker 2: that like three times, and it.
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Speaker 3: Was like, do you like the album?
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Speaker 2: I said, I loved the album, And I said, the
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Speaker 2: reason I love the album is because Miguel is a
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Speaker 2: feeling to me, same way everybody doing Jill's Got is
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Speaker 2: a feeling to me. I know what Miguel's gonna make
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Speaker 2: me feeling. So if I didn't get that feeling, I'd
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Speaker 2: be like, damn, it ain't about a sound or anything.
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Speaker 3: It's just a feeling.
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Speaker 2: So I'm glad that you are that intentional about putting
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Speaker 2: that feeling into your music, because we as consumers feel that.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was the point because I know and like
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Speaker 4: the New Martyrs for you, you talk a lot about
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Speaker 4: being able to find yourself or keep yourself while losing
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Speaker 4: yourself at the same time, right, Yeah, but it seems
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Speaker 4: like you've arrived at that point, especially by the end
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Speaker 4: of the album when you're talking to your son. What
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Speaker 4: was it for you where you were like, Okay, I'm here, Like,
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Speaker 4: was it an event? Was it a song around?
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't even be pretentious like that and be like
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Speaker 1: I'm here, you know. I think that's the that's the
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Speaker 1: that's a big one that I want to embrace in
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Speaker 1: my life, is that there is no here. You know,
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Speaker 1: I've not I've never arrived. The moment I felt that
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Speaker 1: way in the past, that was when I was starting
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Speaker 1: to really unravel, because then I'm like, I am I
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Speaker 1: am this, I am this. It makes you you lock
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Speaker 1: in too many things too. It's like, it's great things
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Speaker 1: to know about yourself, but to say that you've arrived
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Speaker 1: or that you've you've met your final form, I think
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Speaker 1: it's such a treacherous place. It also robs you of
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Speaker 1: the excitement of the possibility, and it takes away any
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Speaker 1: kind of sense of being a student and remaining mouldible,
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Speaker 1: remaining plast you know, plast is it like neuroplasticity, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's like remaining able to be and learn and then
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Speaker 1: to take those into teach. I think that's the beauty
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Speaker 1: of this, this experience. It's like that what's that It's
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Speaker 1: a quote Lauren Hill. She's like if it's not growing,
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Speaker 1: it's dead. That's like I'm trying to stay there. I'm
17:16
Speaker 1: trying to stay growing. So to answer your question, this,
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Speaker 1: I think what got me to talking about what i've
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Speaker 1: what I've been talking, what I've been you know, what
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Speaker 1: the album really encompasses, or to even just make the
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Speaker 1: album about that energy, about the energy of being angry
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Speaker 1: and and not not okay, you know, but still pushing
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Speaker 1: through to figure it out. Was just not finally just
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Speaker 1: being like, I don't want to accept this anymore. I
17:50
Speaker 1: don't want to accept this experience, this feeling, because this
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Speaker 1: is not how I want to feel. I want to
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Speaker 1: feel great and I want to feel like I'm moving forward.
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Speaker 1: And for whatever reason, I'm hitting the same I'm hitting
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Speaker 1: donuts in my cycles, you know what I'm saying. I'm like, shit,
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Speaker 1: looked fun. Excuse me, it looked fun, But I'm not
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Speaker 1: going anywhere.
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Speaker 3: You know, did you ever feel like you were dying,
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Speaker 3: like you know, you weren't growing? Like did you have
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Speaker 3: a uh there was.
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Speaker 1: There's some songs that the initial iterations of the album
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Speaker 1: are not on this album that I think I will
18:26
Speaker 1: put them out, But in the context of everything, I
18:28
Speaker 1: think it felt really heavy, but there was some real
18:31
Speaker 1: There was some dark moments.
18:33
Speaker 5: Man.
18:33
Speaker 1: I will say I was feeling like I was losing
18:36
Speaker 1: my mind for a second and I couldn't. I couldn't.
18:40
Speaker 1: I was like, is it something I'm eating? I did everything,
18:43
Speaker 1: I did, cleanses, I did, you know, I like, went away,
18:47
Speaker 1: worked on music alone, went away and didn't do anything
18:50
Speaker 1: and just sat with myself and it just felt like
18:53
Speaker 1: I was just nothing, you know, just it. And I
18:57
Speaker 1: think wherever we are in this time, whether it's if
19:01
Speaker 1: it's you know, technology, whether we've got a lot of pressure.
19:06
Speaker 1: Everybody's dealing with a lot, and everything is moving so fast,
19:11
Speaker 1: it's moving so fast, and the information is just too much.
19:15
Speaker 1: You can't tell what is true and what is false,
19:17
Speaker 1: and trying to make sense of it all while you're
19:20
Speaker 1: trying to survive all wow, you know, you're trying to
19:24
Speaker 1: get your shit off, You're trying to do your be
19:26
Speaker 1: your best self, you know, and all the things that
19:29
Speaker 1: we want to be. It's a lot, man, It's a lot.
19:32
Speaker 1: It's a lot. So I've locked in more into like, Okay,
19:34
Speaker 1: well how do I want to feel? How do we
19:35
Speaker 1: get there?
19:36
Speaker 4: You know, it felt like on the album, when you
19:38
Speaker 4: did the song Angels, the Angel song, yeah for your
19:41
Speaker 4: sound of song, and that's your son's voice on the Yeah. Okay.
19:45
Speaker 4: When I was listening to that song after listening to
19:47
Speaker 4: the production beginning, which was really like heavy and dark,
19:50
Speaker 4: it feels like that's when like the sunshine comes out
19:52
Speaker 4: a bit. Not to be like cliche, but how has
19:54
Speaker 4: been a father changed how you tell your story and music?
20:00
Speaker 1: I think the core of the of what I'm saying
20:02
Speaker 1: has to be I'm working on making what I say
20:08
Speaker 1: very clear and easy to understand because I'm anticipating he's
20:19
Speaker 1: going to be asking more and more. He's asking questions soon.
20:23
Speaker 1: I mean he's already saying no. We're talking about this
20:26
Speaker 1: in the elevator. He's one year old, and he's like no,
20:29
Speaker 1: But right now it's a question. It's like no, like
20:32
Speaker 1: can I say no? Or it's like it's no the
20:34
Speaker 1: right response right now. But in a short amount of time,
20:37
Speaker 1: he's going to be saying no, you know, and I'm
20:41
Speaker 1: asking to come with questions and I'm going to have
20:43
Speaker 1: to have answers, and I feel like it's made his
20:45
Speaker 1: way into my music. I'm not saying I'm there yet. Yeah,
20:48
Speaker 1: but wanting to be really clear again, just clear about
20:52
Speaker 1: how I feel and clear about where I'm what I'm
20:54
Speaker 1: getting at, and.
20:56
Speaker 2: Let kids know their boundaries early because I don't know
20:58
Speaker 2: what happens to us as adults, but at some point
21:00
Speaker 2: when we just forget how to say no.
21:02
Speaker 1: It's valid. That's one of my favorite things. When he's
21:05
Speaker 1: like he doesn't want to go to somebody. You know,
21:07
Speaker 1: people get, people get you know, somebody asked me to
21:12
Speaker 1: hold myself.
21:12
Speaker 3: I'm like your.
21:13
Speaker 6: Baby, I don't know you.
21:18
Speaker 3: I don't know.
21:19
Speaker 2: It's weird were kids with adults would be like, no,
21:22
Speaker 2: give him a hug, baby, give the kids.
21:24
Speaker 3: I don't know.
21:26
Speaker 2: So we teach these kids not to have boundaries so early,
21:29
Speaker 2: and then we got to learn to have boundaries again
21:31
Speaker 2: as we get older.
21:32
Speaker 4: Yeah, and on the song to You, I thought this
21:34
Speaker 4: was powerful. You apologie, you say sorry, I'm not perfect,
21:37
Speaker 4: but there's nothing I wouldn't do. And I'm like that feeling,
21:40
Speaker 4: as you know, as a new dad, that's like a
21:42
Speaker 4: heck of a feeling I imagine for you to experience.
21:45
Speaker 3: It's real.
21:45
Speaker 1: It's it's a look, I own a gun. There are
21:51
Speaker 1: things that I never thought that I would be and
21:55
Speaker 1: do at this stage of my life. And you know,
22:00
Speaker 1: I talk about this in the album too. It's like
22:03
Speaker 1: life has a way of, you know, taking you in
22:07
Speaker 1: un expected places, taking unexpected great ones, and places that
22:12
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, well I didn't expect that, but I
22:14
Speaker 1: mean there are definitely things where I'm like, I can
22:18
Speaker 1: understand parents being extremely like you know, I be protective,
22:24
Speaker 1: you know, and so there isn't anything that I can't
22:26
Speaker 1: imagine myself. Look, they're gonna pull this shit up if
22:28
Speaker 1: anything happens in.
22:29
Speaker 3: The future Exhibit.
22:34
Speaker 1: Exhibit A. He did say that, no, but I think
22:38
Speaker 1: any parent out there can relate to this. It's like
22:40
Speaker 1: you would there is I look at him like, man,
22:46
Speaker 1: I'll go to the end, you know, and and and
22:50
Speaker 1: probably without even thinking about it. I think it's also
22:54
Speaker 1: what has given me a lot of what Angel changed
22:59
Speaker 1: was I had lost a lot of hope and faith
23:04
Speaker 1: and what in everything in humanity and possibility in the
23:10
Speaker 1: purpose of all of whatever this shit is. I just like,
23:16
Speaker 1: big time, big time grief, and I've talked about that too.
23:21
Speaker 1: That was something I was processing that needed to be
23:23
Speaker 1: dealt with first, but that was top layer. Then you
23:26
Speaker 1: go down you're like, man, I'm caring a lot of
23:29
Speaker 1: you know, I've got resentment for people in my life
23:32
Speaker 1: that I grew up with. And man, I felt I've
23:34
Speaker 1: been taken advantage of in these just different kinds of
23:37
Speaker 1: ways in business, in these kinds of ways. And I
23:40
Speaker 1: was lucky. Man, I was so lucky.
23:43
Speaker 3: I could have.
23:45
Speaker 1: Man, they could have got me in terms of like
23:47
Speaker 1: taking advantage of like just being a young artist and
23:50
Speaker 1: like putting things in front of me. And again, I'm
23:54
Speaker 1: so grateful they could have. Really, I could have been
23:57
Speaker 1: in a bad situation in terms of like financial and
24:01
Speaker 1: but I got lucky. I've got people who listen and
24:03
Speaker 1: and thankfully the music is really grabbed on to people.
24:07
Speaker 1: But in in hindsighted looking and I go, wow, I
24:13
Speaker 1: have so much more faith than I did before. And
24:18
Speaker 1: it's really it's very much because of my son.
24:20
Speaker 6: So yeah, go ahead and slow it down.
24:24
Speaker 5: The song you say, pray I can make peace with
24:27
Speaker 5: the past because tomorrow comes way too fast.
24:29
Speaker 1: You guys, really listen to thank you so much.
24:35
Speaker 2: That's right, by the way, she's married to a Mexican.
24:49
Speaker 1: And everything.
24:50
Speaker 6: You know, so I wanted you to like unpack that,
24:53
Speaker 6: you know what I mean.
24:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, pray I could make peace with the past because
24:57
Speaker 1: tomorrow comes way too fast. It's I mean, it's hindsight,
25:00
Speaker 1: everything is so much clear, and I mean the it's
25:06
Speaker 1: it's that's exactly what it feels like.
25:08
Speaker 5: Even when you were saying like people that you grew
25:10
Speaker 5: up with taking advantage of you and things like that,
25:12
Speaker 5: like I don't want to.
25:14
Speaker 1: That sounds so crazy because that don't be a SoundBite
25:16
Speaker 1: after this, but you know, it's like I just thought
25:18
Speaker 1: about it as like, ah, I can definitely see people
25:20
Speaker 1: be like they could have got me and be like see.
25:24
Speaker 1: But but it's you look at things with so much
25:29
Speaker 1: more clarity and maybe how how not again not knowing
25:36
Speaker 1: how I wanted to feel and just going with things
25:40
Speaker 1: and and again awareness being being just like in it
25:46
Speaker 1: and being present and grateful having so much. I've always
25:49
Speaker 1: been a grateful person. But again, when you do this
25:54
Speaker 1: for and you start to see like people react to it,
25:57
Speaker 1: and then it's like, oh, this is what happens when
25:59
Speaker 1: that happens and you start to look at it, and
26:01
Speaker 1: it's not expectation per se, but it's that you're like
26:06
Speaker 1: wanting it secretly. You know, you're like it's your core.
26:09
Speaker 1: You're like, nah, I really want the success, I really
26:11
Speaker 1: want this to happen, and you put this pressure on
26:13
Speaker 1: it and it becomes a big cycle of things and
26:17
Speaker 1: by the time you get to the other side, you
26:20
Speaker 1: spend so much time wanting and expecting and not looking
26:25
Speaker 1: at the greatness in the midst of it and feeling
26:28
Speaker 1: the greatness and just being you know, in the midst
26:31
Speaker 1: of it and loving those moments, and in that feeling
26:35
Speaker 1: you look back and it's already over. You know, you're
26:38
Speaker 1: so focused on well, what's going to happen and being
26:41
Speaker 1: anxious about it and hoping. Man, yeah, just be with
26:44
Speaker 1: the feeling. Many stay in that mode.
26:47
Speaker 4: Talking a little bit about you know, the past, and
26:49
Speaker 4: you mentioned like the grieving and different things on always
26:52
Speaker 4: time you say maybe this time love means letting go.
26:56
Speaker 4: You talk about private truths and public roles and you
26:59
Speaker 4: thought there will always be time to fight for love.
27:01
Speaker 4: The you know an honest and like first listen, I
27:04
Speaker 4: was like, is this about his past relationship and wanting
27:07
Speaker 4: to fight for that?
27:08
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, the album is it's about my It's about
27:12
Speaker 1: my I mean I've had I've been very it's very
27:16
Speaker 1: public that I was married and we were.
27:18
Speaker 4: Very together at the relationship as well too.
27:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a bit. It was a big part
27:22
Speaker 1: of my experience as a human being this time around.
27:27
Speaker 1: You know, that was a massive part I was with
27:31
Speaker 1: when I was nineteen. You know what I'm saying. It
27:34
Speaker 1: was it was a long time and in the midst
27:37
Speaker 1: of that, I was being a musician and becoming a
27:42
Speaker 1: musician and finding my audience and all of that. And
27:46
Speaker 1: there's a lot of learning. There's a lot of learning.
27:49
Speaker 1: Who were we all when we were in nineteen year twelve. Look,
27:54
Speaker 1: I'm just hitting my I'm feeling like, Okay, I know
27:57
Speaker 1: exactly who I am, and look I don't. I'm still learning.
28:01
Speaker 1: But I know my values. That's the part. That's what
28:04
Speaker 1: I meant to say earlier. Values don't change, you know
28:08
Speaker 1: what I mean? Your values, that's your core. But everything
28:11
Speaker 1: else in your style and whatever how you your values,
28:15
Speaker 1: your core values. Those are the things that I think
28:18
Speaker 1: I don't need to necessarily discover my values. I think
28:22
Speaker 1: where I'm at is that I'm honing them. I'm sure
28:24
Speaker 1: I'm only strengthening them. I'm only like doubling down on them.
28:29
Speaker 1: But always time that song was written because I was
28:34
Speaker 1: uncovering a lot of my values in real time. And
28:40
Speaker 1: one of those things that I've always been is the
28:45
Speaker 1: word loyal is crazy because loyalty I saw my grandparents
28:53
Speaker 1: stay together are my entire life. You know, they were
28:58
Speaker 1: loyal to the family, But loyalty like were they happy?
29:04
Speaker 7: You know?
29:05
Speaker 6: I don't know?
29:07
Speaker 1: Uh, And that's a that's that's a crazy one. And
29:09
Speaker 1: that song is about kind of like coming to terms
29:11
Speaker 1: with you know, I can't even be the right person
29:14
Speaker 1: for you. I can't. I can't be it. I And like,
29:20
Speaker 1: discovering that in real time is crazy work when you're like, damn,
29:25
Speaker 1: I thought the whole thing was like I'm supposed to
29:27
Speaker 1: fight it out and we're supposed to do it. And
29:29
Speaker 1: even when it's and at some point you when you
29:32
Speaker 1: stop and you go, you know what the best thing
29:35
Speaker 1: I can do is actually let it go.
29:38
Speaker 3: That's not what the marriage. But I see that's not
29:40
Speaker 3: what That's not what.
29:40
Speaker 2: My grandparents did, right, So all of that psychologically, I'm
29:44
Speaker 2: sure with you.
29:44
Speaker 1: It does it It's I think that's that's where generate
29:50
Speaker 1: our generations now are looking at the construct of marriage
29:54
Speaker 1: with a very through a very different lens and also
29:57
Speaker 1: looking at the history, the historical e a of what
30:00
Speaker 1: that means, what that means and what it was before
30:04
Speaker 1: it was about the ring and about the you know
30:07
Speaker 1: what I mean, and how that's like it's sort of
30:11
Speaker 1: it's taken away. And again I'm not saying anything about
30:16
Speaker 1: married or I think it's a beautiful thing. I was
30:18
Speaker 1: so happy to be married when I was, whether or
30:22
Speaker 1: not I was able to, you know, be true to it.
30:26
Speaker 1: You know, I think it's such a beautiful idea. I
30:32
Speaker 1: think the word and the symbolism sometimes take away the
30:38
Speaker 1: purpose or what it's supposed to be really representative of.
30:42
Speaker 1: You know, It's like, man, it's supposed to be that
30:43
Speaker 1: there's a relationship that's unshakable and you guys are really
30:46
Speaker 1: going to be partners in the whole shit. I don't
30:50
Speaker 1: know what happens, but most people I talked to her
30:53
Speaker 1: marriage that's it turns into something else. The partnership somehow
30:56
Speaker 1: is like it's the symbolism takes precedence over that actual
31:00
Speaker 1: core thing of what it's supposed to be.
31:02
Speaker 2: I don't know the degree the degree for that, you know,
31:05
Speaker 2: break up, keep you away from the.
31:07
Speaker 1: Music, maybe maybe not not in it's in and of itself,
31:15
Speaker 1: but I think the me underneath it and needing to
31:20
Speaker 1: understand what what was informing my decisions is what kept
31:25
Speaker 1: me from from doing the music. I need to go
31:26
Speaker 1: do some work. That's really at the end of at
31:28
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I need to go figure
31:29
Speaker 1: my shit out. I needed to go figure it out because, uh,
31:33
Speaker 1: because it wasn't working. And and yeah, it's a it's
31:38
Speaker 1: a life is a trip, man, it's a trip. But
31:40
Speaker 1: always time is one of those ones. It's a like
31:43
Speaker 1: it's such a like that's a hard accepting but true,
31:49
Speaker 1: very honest song.
31:51
Speaker 5: Yeah, and people always forget yo, you are rock stars, superstar, celebrity,
31:56
Speaker 5: migul and all that, but you're still a real person,
31:58
Speaker 5: the real ship, you know.
31:59
Speaker 1: So I think we're all rockstars superstar Like listen, this
32:03
Speaker 1: is every day you guys are with Everyone is a
32:06
Speaker 1: rock star. Everybody, everyone at their core can be that, like,
32:13
Speaker 1: you know everyone. That's the thing I was talking about
32:17
Speaker 1: humility before, because we get this a lot that is like, oh,
32:21
Speaker 1: be humble or I always get man, you're so humble,
32:26
Speaker 1: you know, as opposed to you know, oh, like rock star.
32:31
Speaker 1: But everybody is though everyone is has greatness, everyone has purpose. Everyone.
32:37
Speaker 1: That's what I am. I'm not humble. I just don't
32:39
Speaker 1: think I'm greater than anyone else. I just think that
32:42
Speaker 1: I believe that I have something that's important to do
32:46
Speaker 1: and that everyone has something important to do. And I
32:50
Speaker 1: treat everyone like, no, you're here and you have something
32:53
Speaker 1: here to do and there's a purpose.
32:57
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I always look at the word humble as
32:59
Speaker 5: to being le than what you actually really are.
33:01
Speaker 1: Exactly.
33:02
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I like how you just put that.
33:04
Speaker 1: You know, I'm trying hopefully you get what I'm saying,
33:07
Speaker 1: and like, man, look they use humble sometimes, like yo, yeah,
33:12
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, No, our place is greatness.
33:15
Speaker 4: Man, do you feel like all of the work that
33:16
Speaker 4: you've done and like the place that you're at now
33:18
Speaker 4: with yourself? If you had done it before you and
33:21
Speaker 4: now it could have worked out your marriage.
33:24
Speaker 1: If I would have done all of this before, who's
33:27
Speaker 1: to say, no, we definitely would have had a much
33:30
Speaker 1: better shot, a much better shot. But you know, the
33:37
Speaker 1: you know, the past is you look back and it's
33:39
Speaker 1: so much clear everything is what is it? Hindsight? Everything
33:43
Speaker 1: it's so much clearer. Yeah, it would have been it
33:48
Speaker 1: would have been a very different experience, but can't change
33:51
Speaker 1: the past.
33:52
Speaker 2: You know.
33:53
Speaker 1: And I'm very happy that we've had adult real like
33:58
Speaker 1: man and I've been able to It's different when you're
34:01
Speaker 1: able to come to somebody and go, you know, I
34:03
Speaker 1: didn't realize I was doing this, and I'm really sorry.
34:06
Speaker 4: Wow.
34:07
Speaker 1: And it doesn't take it away that it happened and
34:09
Speaker 1: that I did that, and I just want to give
34:11
Speaker 1: you some context and I'm just so deeply sorry. I
34:15
Speaker 1: would never do this, and you know, to be able
34:17
Speaker 1: to say that doesn't erase it, but at least lets
34:20
Speaker 1: them know, like, no, there's real love here, and that's
34:23
Speaker 1: that's where it was at the core. I just wasn't
34:25
Speaker 1: a big enough person. I wasn't an aware enough person
34:30
Speaker 1: to protect you from my automatic ways and things that
34:34
Speaker 1: I learned from generations and generations.
34:38
Speaker 3: You know.
34:39
Speaker 4: It's an ad place to be.
34:40
Speaker 3: It it's crazy.
34:41
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, it's good to hear that y'all are in
34:43
Speaker 4: that space. Yeah, definitely good to hear on near sights.
34:47
Speaker 4: Slow it down, you say, slow it down for me
34:49
Speaker 4: because I might not get to feel this again. Did
34:50
Speaker 4: you feel like coming out of the situation with you
34:53
Speaker 4: and now that you weren't going to find love like that.
34:55
Speaker 1: Again, that song is more about all of everything I've
35:02
Speaker 1: never and even any I'll say this, and I says before,
35:07
Speaker 1: I don't believe that there's like it's like just one love,
35:10
Speaker 1: and I don't believe in like there's only one person.
35:13
Speaker 1: It's like how many billions of people? Now billion?
35:16
Speaker 3: What are you saying the Mexicans thought to come women.
35:23
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that I don't believe in in a
35:26
Speaker 1: one there's only one, you know, I'm not saying I'm
35:30
Speaker 1: not saying monogamy or anything. I'm not talking about constructs.
35:32
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that there's only I don't believe that
35:35
Speaker 1: there's only one person that you can find love with
35:38
Speaker 1: and actually build a healthy relationship with, whatever that means
35:42
Speaker 1: for them. I just don't believe in that. I do
35:46
Speaker 1: believe in love, and I do believe in being in love.
35:51
Speaker 1: So so when I when I say that in that song,
35:54
Speaker 1: that's more about life in general. You know, I want
35:57
Speaker 1: to be in this moment because everything is fleeting and
36:01
Speaker 1: I feel it more and more now I feel all
36:05
Speaker 1: of time, you know all, I'm so like I want
36:09
Speaker 1: to I want to get all the moments I want
36:10
Speaker 1: to like just like even like coming back to doing
36:13
Speaker 1: these you know, and it's like before I was like, yeah,
36:16
Speaker 1: you go do the raates whatever, and then you go
36:17
Speaker 1: on tour and it's just like that's the thing you do,
36:21
Speaker 1: not really absorbing that. You know, this is people's time,
36:27
Speaker 1: you guys all, this is your careers. You guys, you
36:30
Speaker 1: guys earned to be in this room, and not just
36:33
Speaker 1: to be in this room, but to stay in this
36:35
Speaker 1: room and to be effective and to talk to people
36:38
Speaker 1: and to get people to really listen and pay attention
36:40
Speaker 1: to you and me being in this room is like,
36:42
Speaker 1: I'm so grateful. I'm like, damn, I'm with people who
36:45
Speaker 1: have dedicated themselves to what they love. Man, don't ever
36:49
Speaker 1: take that for granted. Anytime I'm in a room with
36:52
Speaker 1: somebody and they've just they've proven their their their dedication.
36:56
Speaker 1: We did the Blue Note for two nights over the
36:59
Speaker 1: world we can, and I'm in the room with Robert
37:02
Speaker 1: Glasper Jamie Fox pops up, you know we I'm in
37:06
Speaker 1: the I mean Joshy's son dance to somebody's I've known
37:08
Speaker 1: since I was a teenager. These people have been in
37:11
Speaker 1: music and have been effective and incredible and like I'm
37:14
Speaker 1: looking at pictures on the wall and I'm like, I
37:17
Speaker 1: will never take this for granted.
37:18
Speaker 3: Ever, I don't even know he was at the blue
37:20
Speaker 3: that had been.
37:24
Speaker 1: It was great. It was great, Yeah, it was great.
37:27
Speaker 6: The real quick. It's a fan mail that just pipped up,
37:29
Speaker 6: said Miguel.
37:32
Speaker 1: Uh in love, I love. I'm man. I would say
37:36
Speaker 1: it's gonna I need some healing to be in love
37:39
Speaker 1: right now. I'm working on being in love with me
37:42
Speaker 1: if I'm being very very honest, and I have to
37:45
Speaker 1: do that work for my son. But I love myself
37:49
Speaker 1: more and more every day because I'm I'm proud of
37:51
Speaker 1: the decisions that I've been making and I just lean
37:55
Speaker 1: on those and when I have moments where I'm feeling
37:57
Speaker 1: a little because I do still, I still sometimes I'm like, man,
38:03
Speaker 1: this is this is a lie?
38:04
Speaker 3: You know, it's a lot.
38:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I can look at the things that the
38:11
Speaker 1: decisions make and how I'm making decisions and and the
38:14
Speaker 1: why and leaning into again my values and my principles
38:18
Speaker 1: make that make it easier and easier. So I'm getting closer,
38:23
Speaker 1: and I do hope one day I can be in
38:25
Speaker 1: love again. But right now I'm working on.
38:31
Speaker 5: I said, I'm going response no before you go, I
38:37
Speaker 5: was gonna just ask because that question how you answered
38:40
Speaker 5: it made me think of this, right, you're in this
38:41
Speaker 5: really peaceful space and you're getting back into all of
38:44
Speaker 5: this because of the album, and you talked about your son.
38:47
Speaker 4: When you posted your happy Birthday for your son, the
38:49
Speaker 4: world erupted and it wasn't positive. How do you People
38:52
Speaker 4: were upset that you had a baby not with no
38:55
Speaker 4: is that we didn't know about, but it's your choice.
38:58
Speaker 4: How do you deal with that in this new space?
39:00
Speaker 4: Fans and people wanted to just inject their thoughts into
39:03
Speaker 4: that because you're in a different space now.
39:04
Speaker 1: Well it's not new, definitely not new to me. It's
39:09
Speaker 1: been a long time since I've kind of been so
39:11
Speaker 1: to kind of come out and to kind of again
39:14
Speaker 1: kind of have an experience where people, you know, feel
39:18
Speaker 1: the need to express how they feel about your life.
39:22
Speaker 1: You know, it's just that it's it was a good
39:24
Speaker 1: reminder coming in. It's like, oh, yep, were no, you
39:29
Speaker 1: know what, I'm ready, I'm ready for see I And
39:36
Speaker 1: I did it with so much intention. I really am proud.
39:39
Speaker 1: I'm proud to be a father. I'm proud of my partner.
39:43
Speaker 1: She's incredible. She's like I mean, he couldn't have a
39:46
Speaker 1: better mother. I'm just and life doesn't always happen the
39:50
Speaker 1: way that we imagine things to happen. And I also
39:54
Speaker 1: realized that we became a symbol when I was with Nas.
39:57
Speaker 1: We became a symbol to a lot of people of what,
40:00
Speaker 1: you know, relationships could be and could look like and things.
40:03
Speaker 1: But we're just human beings just like everybody else.
40:06
Speaker 3: And we were mad.
40:07
Speaker 1: Young, like I was young, like I was coming up
40:10
Speaker 1: in my twenties, coming you know what I mean. So
40:13
Speaker 1: I did a lot of things the wrong way, you know,
40:16
Speaker 1: and I'm not proud of them, and I'm not making excuses,
40:18
Speaker 1: but come on, man, we've all done things that we're like,
40:22
Speaker 1: you know what, I wouldn't do that again like that.
40:24
Speaker 1: I would actually do it like this, you know. And
40:27
Speaker 1: I'm good with being upfront about Hey, I wasn't perfect,
40:30
Speaker 1: you know, but I'm here now and my life has
40:34
Speaker 1: a lot more of a different experience that I get
40:37
Speaker 1: to show up in a better way for And if
40:41
Speaker 1: people are, you know, upset about what they see, that's it.
40:46
Speaker 1: You can be upset.
40:47
Speaker 3: You know. I mean, they don't know all the time.
40:51
Speaker 1: I mean, it's only it doesn't really. Yeah, it's hard
40:55
Speaker 1: for me to say. I just I'm just like, look,
40:57
Speaker 1: I get that, that's what comes with the territory. You know,
41:01
Speaker 1: there's plenty of other things to focus on.
41:04
Speaker 5: Just described Like what you just describe is growing up
41:08
Speaker 5: living your life.
41:08
Speaker 6: Like you said you were young. You know, you made mistakes.
41:11
Speaker 5: That's everybody. That's like just growing up, living life and learning.
41:16
Speaker 6: That's just what it is.
41:16
Speaker 4: I think for a lot of the fans, though, even
41:18
Speaker 4: if you didn't know the timeline, the thing was people
41:21
Speaker 4: felt like, you know what.
41:22
Speaker 1: That's what bothered me the most, though, I have to
41:24
Speaker 1: say this, the fucked up part is that people start
41:27
Speaker 1: doing the wrong math. The one thing I did not
41:30
Speaker 1: do is is start a relationship while I was married
41:35
Speaker 1: and then had a baby. I got divorced, And I'm
41:38
Speaker 1: gonna say this straight up. Everybody out there talking shit
41:40
Speaker 1: like I was still in a marriage and then I
41:44
Speaker 1: had a baby or I was having a h what
41:47
Speaker 1: is that an affair? All this time I met I
41:51
Speaker 1: met my son's mom after we were divorced. I met
41:55
Speaker 1: her at an event that we were not even supposed
41:57
Speaker 1: to go to. That was well after we were done.
42:00
Speaker 1: So anybody out there, it's always the one or two
42:03
Speaker 1: they just go, yeah, you know, they was together, and
42:05
Speaker 1: he had been seeing this girl for years and they've
42:08
Speaker 1: been not know I had never even know I we
42:10
Speaker 1: never crossed paths until after. So that's the one thing
42:14
Speaker 1: I will say. I do get upset about that. I
42:17
Speaker 1: can't control it. But that makes me mad because also
42:22
Speaker 1: this woman is a good person, she's a great human being,
42:26
Speaker 1: and so and I can't protect I can't stop people
42:29
Speaker 1: from slandering, you know, because.
42:32
Speaker 2: If you pop out with it, it might be like, look,
42:33
Speaker 2: she's a homework and you're like, how did you guys?
42:36
Speaker 4: Talk through that moment though, because it was such a
42:38
Speaker 4: happy moment and then it turned into not that.
42:40
Speaker 1: That's the hardest part. That's the that's the that's the
42:42
Speaker 1: crazy one. And I wish I I I don't. I
42:45
Speaker 1: don't wish this. Actually, I think this this path of being,
42:50
Speaker 1: you know, public facing with your career or what have you,
42:53
Speaker 1: it's just how it does have its ups and it's
42:56
Speaker 1: got some some things that's you know, you're just gonna
42:58
Speaker 1: have to deal with it. And one of them is
43:00
Speaker 1: that personal things become public conversation in ways that they
43:04
Speaker 1: shouldn't or you know, but it's just a part of
43:07
Speaker 1: what comes with it. Was it's been hard, you know,
43:10
Speaker 1: it was it was. It was. It was a challenge
43:12
Speaker 1: because it should have been a very and it still is.
43:16
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. I listen, you're not about to
43:19
Speaker 1: take the happiness. You're not gonna rob me of the
43:21
Speaker 1: joy of being like, man, I'm so proud of this,
43:24
Speaker 1: and that's that's why, that's what it was. And and
43:26
Speaker 1: for her, I know, she's she's like she's so happy
43:29
Speaker 1: and like okay, cool, Like we're good. We don't gotta
43:32
Speaker 1: lie because also he's getting older. And I think the
43:35
Speaker 1: big worry was when you put a child in the public,
43:40
Speaker 1: the moment that the faces out there, then people can
43:44
Speaker 1: take pictures and this and that. So we were being
43:47
Speaker 1: very very private first and foremost for his safety, and
43:50
Speaker 1: then second of all, also like let us get our
43:53
Speaker 1: get our shit together, like let's let us you know,
43:55
Speaker 1: get our group, you know what I mean, Like let's
43:57
Speaker 1: figure it out, let's dial in. But then there's also
44:02
Speaker 1: knowing the public is like they want to know, so
44:04
Speaker 1: so on that side, I'm you're not gonna find out
44:09
Speaker 1: when he's five years old, you know. I mean, I'm
44:10
Speaker 1: not gonna I wasn't gonna wait till you're five. But
44:14
Speaker 1: but I was expecting it to be a lot less.
44:21
Speaker 4: Slander attached to your old relationship, a lot, a whole lot.
44:26
Speaker 1: I understand they need to listen to Always Time.
44:30
Speaker 3: So what is New Martyrs about?
44:32
Speaker 1: Then New Martin is a whole other. So this, this
44:35
Speaker 1: album is is there's a lot of anger in this album.
44:40
Speaker 1: But I want to say that because I feel like
44:42
Speaker 1: it's relatable. I feel generally we're all angry. Absolutely, I
44:47
Speaker 1: feel so much anger in the just the ethos. It
44:50
Speaker 1: just feels like because we don't know, today's like okay,
44:53
Speaker 1: it's fine tomorrow, I don't know if there's a genocide
44:57
Speaker 1: happening right now. There is a genocide happening right now.
45:01
Speaker 1: And I have to say it again, there is a
45:02
Speaker 1: genocide happening right now, and it's public. It's not like
45:06
Speaker 1: we're it's like a century ago where we were getting
45:09
Speaker 1: news from the radio. This is real time on your phone,
45:13
Speaker 1: and there's so much happening right now that you can
45:16
Speaker 1: just scroll past it, like we can ignore it, right
45:19
Speaker 1: here in our communities. It's a lot of things that
45:21
Speaker 1: are being robbed. We're being robbed of, people are being
45:23
Speaker 1: taken advantage of. I think that's when we see things
45:26
Speaker 1: like the Mangioni case, when you see the Charlie Kirk incident,
45:32
Speaker 1: you look at it and you start to be like, well.
45:36
Speaker 6: Right, you'd be you've become desensitized.
45:38
Speaker 7: Or you understand, you kind of understand why, you understand
45:42
Speaker 7: why people are like when when the fascinating part about
45:46
Speaker 7: the whole Mangoni thing was people got behind him, they.
45:50
Speaker 5: Were dressing like him, everything documentary on him. They gotta
45:53
Speaker 5: be hero.
45:54
Speaker 4: It's like a social media thing, but pop culture thing,
45:57
Speaker 4: but also like a political like this.
46:01
Speaker 2: I think the line you say in the song the
46:03
Speaker 2: love can't be silent when this system is in.
46:05
Speaker 1: Equal Yeah, that's it. That's and that Moniker is homage
46:09
Speaker 1: to you know, in the sixties, when we were organizing
46:13
Speaker 1: and we were really finding a way to carve out
46:17
Speaker 1: what was what is right in this country for black people,
46:22
Speaker 1: for all all ethnicities and this people really in this
46:25
Speaker 1: country rather for civil rights. That was a moniker. It
46:29
Speaker 1: was like, look, we can't be silent, it's not right.
46:32
Speaker 1: So we have to say something, And the song is
46:35
Speaker 1: inspired by just the general anger and the angst I
46:39
Speaker 1: think we're all feeling. We're looking at them, we're watching
46:42
Speaker 1: this shit not work the way that it's supposed to.
46:46
Speaker 1: I mean, our tax dollars are going to wars that
46:49
Speaker 1: we have no say about, and those tax numbers are
46:54
Speaker 1: going up. I'm not I'm not proud of. Look, I'll
46:58
Speaker 1: pay my taxes gladly, fine, whatever, But I mean, now
47:01
Speaker 1: you're just you're not You're gonna go apply that to
47:03
Speaker 1: a war that I don't believe in. You know what
47:06
Speaker 1: I'm saying, It's not supposed to work like that. That's
47:09
Speaker 1: that's it's not built like that. It wasn't built. It
47:11
Speaker 1: was built actually for us to have some say. We
47:13
Speaker 1: have representatives that are supposed to go and say, you
47:15
Speaker 1: know what, tax payer money they don't want that we
47:19
Speaker 1: have no say, We have had no say thus far.
47:22
Speaker 1: So New Martin is inspired by these feelings of like, man,
47:25
Speaker 1: we're all watching things in front of us that are
47:28
Speaker 1: that it's not working for us, and modern examples of
47:32
Speaker 1: like the man you and I think is like vigilanteism
47:35
Speaker 1: extreme action are going to become more and more common Yeah, absolutely,
47:41
Speaker 1: and triggered yeah, intentional yeah yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, more
47:48
Speaker 1: of the feeling.
47:50
Speaker 5: Getting any visuals yeah, okay, yeah, you got to put
47:56
Speaker 5: the vision to the words. Yeah, yeah, I would love
47:58
Speaker 5: to see some of guel vision is coming.
48:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been doing We've been doing like shorter visuals
48:04
Speaker 1: leading in, but I have like I have more substantial
48:06
Speaker 1: in the in the next couple In the next couple
48:08
Speaker 1: of weeks, I'm actually gonna play the video for New Martyrs.
48:12
Speaker 3: Man.
48:13
Speaker 1: I've been honored to be invited to be uh scholar
48:17
Speaker 1: and residents at n YU.
48:19
Speaker 5: Yeah, amazing.
48:20
Speaker 1: So so I built a program. The Courses is actually
48:26
Speaker 1: speaking chaos to power. It's about taking what we know
48:32
Speaker 1: about chaotic times in our history and using those as
48:36
Speaker 1: examples in order to affect change in our modern time.
48:40
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm focusing mostly on the arts and how
48:44
Speaker 1: we can take the sort of the disenfranchisement, the systematic
48:53
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, taking advantage of art and I P in
48:57
Speaker 1: the past and using that as as ways now to
49:00
Speaker 1: take hold and control of industries and art. But it's
49:05
Speaker 1: to be applied across the board. So yeah, yeah, yeah,
49:07
Speaker 1: And we'll premiere the video for the martyrs at the end.
49:10
Speaker 2: Do you think artists have a responsibility to raise consciousness
49:14
Speaker 2: or just to tell the truth?
49:16
Speaker 1: Say it one more time.
49:16
Speaker 2: So you think artists have a responsibility to raise the
49:20
Speaker 2: consciousness of people?
49:21
Speaker 3: Are just to tell the truth?
49:23
Speaker 1: Oh? I believe every individual has a responsibility to raise
49:27
Speaker 1: their own consciousness. I do believe that that art is
49:34
Speaker 1: meant to bring human beings together and the erasing of
49:43
Speaker 1: one's own separation from the next human being happens with art,
49:48
Speaker 1: and that in and of itself, I do think it
49:50
Speaker 1: gives us the opportunity to raise consciousness. It's like you
49:53
Speaker 1: hear a song in Spanish that you don't know what
49:55
Speaker 1: it means, but you fuck with it, you love it
49:57
Speaker 1: how you feel it for whatever reason. That's art. Or
50:01
Speaker 1: you go see a painting and you sit there and
50:03
Speaker 1: you stand and you go, I don't know what it
50:05
Speaker 1: is about this, but I love this, you know. It's
50:08
Speaker 1: like great art is us finding ourselves in the details
50:11
Speaker 1: of the art. We lose, we lose our own and
50:14
Speaker 1: we become there's a point of reference, there's a point
50:17
Speaker 1: of like we relate. I think that's what art does,
50:22
Speaker 1: and that's the that's the purpose of artist is. So
50:23
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say raise consciousness in and of itself, but
50:26
Speaker 1: I do think it is. I take it upon myself
50:29
Speaker 1: now to say that I feel responsible to make art
50:33
Speaker 1: that brings people together and hopefully they forget the divisions
50:37
Speaker 1: that we have through the music. That's why I do
50:40
Speaker 1: love having great, you know, big songs. I think great,
50:42
Speaker 1: big songs that are able to whatever, if they're commercially
50:45
Speaker 1: successful or whatever. Think of a dorn or sure thing.
50:49
Speaker 1: I think of these songs. Even how many drinks? You
50:52
Speaker 1: know what I mean? I don't know if.
50:54
Speaker 3: I'm gonna cancel you for how many drinks? At one point?
50:56
Speaker 1: That is a consent record. Let's I want to go
51:00
Speaker 1: on to the that is a consent record. There is
51:03
Speaker 1: a question.
51:05
Speaker 3: How many?
51:06
Speaker 1: How many? Hey, I know, how many would it? You know?
51:10
Speaker 2: I wanted to say it was a very bold choice
51:13
Speaker 2: to start the album off with a song with Spanish.
51:17
Speaker 3: Yeah.
51:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, like, you said it soundfly, But
51:20
Speaker 2: I'm like, I have no idea what he's what he's saying.
51:22
Speaker 6: He could have been saying your grandmother ugly and you
51:23
Speaker 6: just over here saying.
51:25
Speaker 3: But then you want it right back to killing the.
51:30
Speaker 1: Valid valid have to do it.
51:32
Speaker 2: I's got a couple of more questions. What an enlightenment,
51:34
Speaker 2: Enlightenment look like from a guel right now?
51:37
Speaker 1: Oh, sureness. I think radical, radical creativity and positivity and
51:48
Speaker 1: the power of what art can do. I think enlightenment
51:54
Speaker 1: for me is again leaning into my values in a
51:58
Speaker 1: very radical and the most like And I also think
52:01
Speaker 1: like choosing to be happy and choosing to be positive
52:10
Speaker 1: is what enlightenment looks like for me now, because otherwise
52:14
Speaker 1: I've become apathetic, and then apathetic means and I don't
52:18
Speaker 1: care to do anything, and I just refuse to accept
52:22
Speaker 1: that there's nothing that could be done. So, yeah, that's
52:26
Speaker 1: what that looks like for me.
52:27
Speaker 4: Oh well, I was going to talk to you about
52:30
Speaker 4: the martyrs artwork and how you're gonna bring that into
52:32
Speaker 4: the class, but we kind of already that's that. But
52:34
Speaker 4: so the artwork for martyrs and what you're doing it
52:37
Speaker 4: and why you when you're developing your course selection, it's
52:40
Speaker 4: just you. You're just using all of your art or
52:44
Speaker 4: with a teacher to.
52:45
Speaker 1: Know I'm working with professors, Yeah, yeah, to kind of
52:48
Speaker 1: put it together. Very much inspired by my experience as
52:53
Speaker 1: a as a musician in the industry, my observations and
52:58
Speaker 1: my critique of what could be better and how it
53:01
Speaker 1: could be better, and really leaning on them for their
53:06
Speaker 1: insights on the past and how that intersection of art
53:12
Speaker 1: and commerce has always come at the expense of often
53:15
Speaker 1: black people, brown people like you know what I mean,
53:18
Speaker 1: It's like often at our expense. And so what is it?
53:21
Speaker 1: What is it? What can we learn from the past
53:24
Speaker 1: to help us shape what industry looks like in a
53:27
Speaker 1: way that's equitable for the creators, so that is sustainable.
53:31
Speaker 4: Were you at all nervous though in choosing such to
53:34
Speaker 4: recreate such a bold moment of because this is the artwork,
53:37
Speaker 4: right of ica, So creating that moment from that security
53:41
Speaker 4: camera where he's shooting gun, right, And the reason I
53:44
Speaker 4: mentioned or ask you, we're you're nervous about that is
53:46
Speaker 4: because I watch how bad Bunny talked about not doing
53:49
Speaker 4: concerts here because he wants to protect his people from ice.
53:52
Speaker 4: Super Bowl happens. Now politically he is the conversation and
53:55
Speaker 4: they're coming for him, right. How do you where do
54:00
Speaker 4: you kind of lay in all of that, Like how
54:02
Speaker 4: you choose what you're gonna be radical against? Right now?
54:04
Speaker 1: I think it's the same thing when you see, you know,
54:07
Speaker 1: shows get canceled. I mean, Kimmel got canceled for a moment. Yeah,
54:10
Speaker 1: but that was for a moment. And I bet you
54:13
Speaker 1: watch what happens at the super Bowl. Watch how many
54:15
Speaker 1: people watch the viewership go crazy break it's gonna break records.
54:19
Speaker 1: And then I bet you they never question if they're
54:20
Speaker 1: gonna bring a Latino on that stage. They'll never question it,
54:24
Speaker 1: you know why, because it's touching their dollars. And we
54:27
Speaker 1: saw that with Kimmel. The moment they got backlash and
54:30
Speaker 1: their viewership went down. Oh no, it was like, bring
54:33
Speaker 1: them back. We don't have to figure this one out,
54:35
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so at the core
54:36
Speaker 1: of the chorus, it is about building your audience, which
54:40
Speaker 1: is another reason, and it's what my album is what
54:43
Speaker 1: it is. But I didn't make another record that primarily
54:47
Speaker 1: focuses on romance and that dynamic of my life from
54:50
Speaker 1: my perspective and love. And there'll be other records that
54:53
Speaker 1: I make that. I'm sure I'll make songs like that
54:56
Speaker 1: and that sound feel good and whatnot. But right now,
55:00
Speaker 1: what it was, what this is about, is me tapping
55:03
Speaker 1: into my audience and wanting to identify who's really my audience.
55:07
Speaker 1: It's a proof, it's a case in point. You know,
55:10
Speaker 1: it's like I'm I'm wanting to double down that it's
55:13
Speaker 1: better to identify who's really there for you to listen
55:16
Speaker 1: and then build upon that so then you have leverage.
55:20
Speaker 1: And as we know many times, we've heard this story
55:23
Speaker 1: a million times said artists walks into the record label
55:27
Speaker 1: and they wanted they want the deal, they want the
55:29
Speaker 1: whole thing that they're selling, but they don't have any leverage.
55:32
Speaker 1: And you look at that versus birdman walking in when
55:34
Speaker 1: he got you know what I'm saying, that's why he's
55:36
Speaker 1: got the biggest shit. Shit I forgot that happened here.
55:44
Speaker 1: It's the same thing.
55:45
Speaker 3: Man.
55:45
Speaker 1: You're like, look when you walk in with leverage, it's
55:47
Speaker 1: a whole different game. And the more leverage we have,
55:50
Speaker 1: that's the That's the other part is like drawing that
55:51
Speaker 1: parallel as well to looking at the numbers that we have,
55:55
Speaker 1: we have leverage. The people who are running government are
55:58
Speaker 1: the numbers are so much small, you know, the numbers
56:02
Speaker 1: are it just doesn't so so looking at all of
56:05
Speaker 1: these parallels and going like we're at an inflection point
56:07
Speaker 1: where we can use these chaotic times and the uncertainty
56:11
Speaker 1: to our advantage to really lock in and organize on
56:14
Speaker 1: what we believe in, whatever it is, because they are.
56:18
Speaker 2: I'm glad you did New Martyrs because the rappers ain't
56:20
Speaker 2: doing it. I've been waiting for a rappers tap into
56:22
Speaker 2: the moment and just talk about what's going on, and
56:24
Speaker 2: it just don't feel like they doing it.
56:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad you did it.
56:27
Speaker 1: Love Love, and I'm not I'm not saying I have
56:29
Speaker 1: the answers or anything. It's definitely it's New Martyrs. Isn't
56:32
Speaker 1: like we should go do this and it's not like that.
56:35
Speaker 1: It's just saying, I'm I'm feeling like we are all
56:38
Speaker 1: at that point where it's like I gotta do I
56:40
Speaker 1: gotta do something like and and it's only going to
56:44
Speaker 1: get you know, it's only going to feel more and
56:46
Speaker 1: more like that as we go.
56:47
Speaker 2: If we don't now, Chaos is coming out on October
56:49
Speaker 2: twenty third, that's also your born day, October twenty Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
56:54
Speaker 2: Why do you want to do it on your beata?
56:58
Speaker 1: I think I wanted to give myself the permission to
57:01
Speaker 1: move forward, you know, on my birthday. This one's been
57:05
Speaker 1: it's taking a long time to get here, and it's
57:07
Speaker 1: like it's symbolic of you know, a new cycles. It's
57:11
Speaker 1: it's letting go and it's also beginning new What better
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Speaker 1: time to do that on your birthday?
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Speaker 7: You know.
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Speaker 1: It's like it's very much, it's very much that. So
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Speaker 1: I wanted to go in like, ah, okay, we can,
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Speaker 1: we can move forward and like I said, my next
57:29
Speaker 1: ten I'm looking at my next ten years. The album
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Speaker 1: is again symbolic of like the conversation that I want
57:35
Speaker 1: to have with my audience being deeper and more about
57:39
Speaker 1: the human being, not just about my ability, you know,
57:44
Speaker 1: but about who I am and what I believe in
57:46
Speaker 1: and lock in with my audience like that, and then
57:48
Speaker 1: to build this this company that's about supporting black and
57:51
Speaker 1: brown and Latin artists talent across the board, whether it's film,
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Speaker 1: TV or music, literature, all of those, all of those
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Speaker 1: left the center ones who deserve development the way that
58:04
Speaker 1: we need it now, the way art needs it now
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Speaker 1: that we're not getting and putting capital behind that as
58:10
Speaker 1: well to support that because we need that too.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: The website is dope to it's like a blog, yeah
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Speaker 4: that you upload the different.
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Speaker 1: Year kind of kind of reminds us of where we
58:21
Speaker 1: came from.
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Speaker 4: Definitely does.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So this is my last question. How do you
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Speaker 2: measure the success now? Is it impact?
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Speaker 1: Is it artistry or is it peace impact? Impact? For sure,
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Speaker 1: I don't think that any endeavor is peaceful, you know,
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Speaker 1: any endeavor with real objective, real especially if you're trying
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Speaker 1: to change something, be it for yourself or for others,
58:45
Speaker 1: It's not going to be a peaceful journey. It's just
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Speaker 1: going to come with unforeseen it's gonna come with challenges,
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Speaker 1: and it's going to come with a lot of pushback,
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Speaker 1: especially if it's going against the status quo, and that's
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Speaker 1: not a peaceful experience. But again the values part, you
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Speaker 1: know that being at the core of things. I think
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Speaker 1: it's really about if I can wake up and go, man,
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Speaker 1: I actually did something I feel great about, you know,
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Speaker 1: and this is something that's going to affect someone in
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Speaker 1: a positive way, and I could do that for the
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Speaker 1: rest of my life.
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Speaker 4: One last question for you, not about no relationships to promise.
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Speaker 1: Is it true that I'm happy? Someone was asking I
59:27
Speaker 1: was like, who's it gonna be?
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Speaker 4: I was reposting all on my space, so I had
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Speaker 4: to ask some questions. But originally was that a demo
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Speaker 4: for Usher? Is that a true story?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, I wrote the song and I didn't write
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Speaker 1: it as a demo, say, but we submitted it as
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Speaker 1: a demo for Usher. Usher was looking at the time.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure which album I feel like it was.
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Speaker 1: It might have been Confessions, it might have been which
59:53
Speaker 1: I can't hear sure thing on Confessions. Confession is such
59:56
Speaker 1: a perfect album as it is very different, very different
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Speaker 1: albu But yeah, sure thing was submitted for one of
1:00:02
Speaker 1: those projects, that one another one right after it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well listen, Miguel, were glad you back? Brother is
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Speaker 2: very very dope, very very dope project. I can't wait
1:00:12
Speaker 2: for the world to experience it.
1:00:13
Speaker 3: Make you what you want us play right now? I
1:00:14
Speaker 3: want to play New Martyrs.
1:00:15
Speaker 1: Play New Martyrs. We gotta bang that?
1:00:17
Speaker 3: Why not? Yeah, it's Miguel. It's the Breakfast Club.
1:00:21
Speaker 1: Every day ago click yours up the Breakfast Club. You'll
1:00:25
Speaker 1: finish the y'all done.