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7/16/26: Israel Op To Derail Negotiations, Trump Cuts Lead To Disease Outbreak · Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar

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  Speaker 3: dot Com. Turning out to Brad Parscale, a name some
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  Speaker 3: of you may have forgotten at this point, but let's
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  Speaker 3: put this up here on the screen. He was, of course,
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  Speaker 3: Donald Trump's campaign manager for years. He raised hundreds of
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  Speaker 3: millions of dollars. He himself had quite a bit of
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  Speaker 3: controversy at the time, and so what has he been
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  Speaker 3: doing in his retirement. Well we've known this for quite
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  Speaker 3: some time, but Time magazine really dug into the details.
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  Speaker 3: Trump's ex campaign manager, Brad Parscale is running in Israeli
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  Speaker 3: influence operation targeting the MAGA base.
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  Speaker 1: So let me read. In case you have not heard
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  Speaker 1: of any of this before.
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  Speaker 3: Last September, the global ad agency HAVAS hired Brad Parscale's
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  Speaker 3: firm clock Tower X to conduct a digital campaign on
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  Speaker 3: behalf of the state of Israel.
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  Speaker 1: This is according to the Foreign Agents Registration.
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  Speaker 3: Act filings, which were reviewed by Time magazine. Under Parscale's operation,
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  Speaker 3: he would produce one hundred original pieces of content each month,
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  Speaker 3: with he aimed at least eighty percent for gen Z
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  Speaker 3: audiences across TikTok, Instagram, YouTube and podcasts. In services agreement,
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  Speaker 3: Parscale pledged to amplify the campaign across social media, integration
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  Speaker 3: of narrative messaging into the Salem Media Network properties, and
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  Speaker 3: aligned distribution channels, which refers to the Christian Conservative Broadcasting
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  Speaker 3: and Publishing company where he is the chief strategy officer.
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  Speaker 3: He vowed that the effort would produce at least fifty
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  Speaker 3: million digital impressions per month, as well as influence how
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  Speaker 3: AI tools such as open ais Chat, GPT, Anthropics, clot
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  Speaker 3: and Google's Gemini characterized Israel.
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  Speaker 1: And the war.
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  Speaker 3: For all of this, they agreed to pay some one
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  Speaker 3: point five million dollars per month. And so what you
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  Speaker 3: can see here is that you had a nearly forty
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  Speaker 3: to fifty million dollar ad campaign which has now been
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  Speaker 3: running for years in the background, exclusively targeted at the
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  Speaker 3: magabase to keep them from staying on side whenever it
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  Speaker 3: comes to the issue of Israel. Now, we don't really know,
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  Speaker 3: you know, who exactly has been ensnared in all of this,
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  Speaker 3: but some of the names are at least familiar to
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  Speaker 3: those of us on Twitter. So, for example, it is
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  Speaker 3: not clear how much Brad Parscal has actually paid individual
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  Speaker 3: influencers as part of this campaign. Other recent influenzable campaigns
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  Speaker 3: have offered them a base payment of twenty two hundred
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  Speaker 3: twenty two to fifty plus one dollar for every one
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  Speaker 3: thousand views up to two million, allowing them to earn
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  Speaker 3: as much as four thousand, two hundred and fifty dollars
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  Speaker 3: per post per post. So let's say and extrapolate this
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  Speaker 3: from Twitter. I'll just give people an example. Both of
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  Speaker 3: us are Twitter blue, not by choice, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: you know, It's like we were just kind of given
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  Speaker 3: to us. And so I can see what my creator,
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  Speaker 3: you know, output or whatever is what for all of
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  Speaker 3: my tweets in a month we earn and all the
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  Speaker 3: funds go to the company. It's like three hundred dollars
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  Speaker 3: for every tweet that I put out. And I think
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  Speaker 3: I haven't looked at the average impression or any of that,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm sure it probably at least some of them,
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  Speaker 3: some of the more viral ones, would meet this standard.
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  Speaker 3: So they are paying ten times market value, so to speak,
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  Speaker 3: all for pro Israel messaging, which is all being used
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  Speaker 3: and coordinated by Power Scale, and this influence operation all
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  Speaker 3: on behalf of the state of Israel. I will say
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  Speaker 3: one noteworthy piece, as an Israeli official actually said he
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  Speaker 3: didn't even do a good job.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Israelis are like, look at our approval rating
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  Speaker 2: in the US. This is not working. Like you, young
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  Speaker 2: people hate us, whether they're on the right or the left.
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  Speaker 2: So you're not what are you doing with his money?
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  Speaker 2: It's not working?
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  Speaker 3: Right, So at least you know one you know, funny
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  Speaker 3: karmic thing in here is that the Israelis are bitching
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  Speaker 3: that they didn't get enough value for their money and
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  Speaker 3: paying So yeah, I mean, okay, Brad Parscal got.
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  Speaker 1: Really rich, so that's good. Good for him.
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  Speaker 3: Buy a couple more mansions in South Florida, but it
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  Speaker 3: is still noteworthy because it reveals how there are so
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  Speaker 3: many people who and usually the ones accusing us and
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  Speaker 3: others of being Katari agents, who actually are on the payer. Now,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to stay on the payroll of a
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  Speaker 3: foreign government because it's laundered. You know, it's like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: to an American thing. But ultimately the cash, if you
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  Speaker 3: were to trace it back, would be to the either
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  Speaker 3: the Israeli government or some friends of the Israeli government.
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  Speaker 3: And more importantly, it's inorganic, like in terms of what
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  Speaker 3: they're posting, and usually it's the people who have the
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  Speaker 3: most vicious accusations. It's really a confession the very people
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  Speaker 3: who want to actually use Tucker Carlson or our show
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  Speaker 3: or other.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I just had this recently. It's like your pro terror
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  Speaker 3: funded media outlet. And you know, I often just want
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  Speaker 3: to be like, okay, let's both of us, will it
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  Speaker 3: independently audited our tax returns. Let's see who's got money
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  Speaker 3: coming from a foreign because it ain't me. I can
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  Speaker 3: guarantee you that you know and all, they would never
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  Speaker 3: put up with any of that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it is very it's first of all,
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  Speaker 2: what a sleazy guy like so disgusting, and it really
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  Speaker 2: does you know, we're about to place a JD Vance
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  Speaker 2: club on Joe Rogan, Like it really is aimed at
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  Speaker 2: undercutting the negotiations and any sort of potential diplomacy process.
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  Speaker 2: Immediately after the MoU was signed, you saw all of
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  Speaker 2: these right wing influencers. We don't know technically whether they
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  Speaker 2: were all paid or not, but a bunch of them
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  Speaker 2: similar language attacking the MoU, saying it was a disaster
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  Speaker 2: for the US. You know, all this very coordinated looking
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  Speaker 2: messaging coming from the right wing influencer community. But also
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  Speaker 2: you know, I think like this is one very important vector.
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  Speaker 2: I need you guys to understand how much of messaging
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  Speaker 2: in the right wing media influencer space is paid for.
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  Speaker 2: Like there was another instant, remember we covered it when
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  Speaker 2: there was all of a sudden, this very coordinated messaging
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  Speaker 2: around some soda issue.
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  Speaker 5: They talk about this in Time magazine.
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  Speaker 2: You'll see things like that pop up where you're like,
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  Speaker 2: what where did this come from? Or there was this
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  Speaker 2: coordinated attack on Harley Motorcycles that appears to have been
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  Speaker 2: funded by their competitor, and you all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: had all of these right wing influencers who were like
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  Speaker 2: deeply passionate about how Harley Davidson has gone woke, which
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  Speaker 2: was preposteros, like based on literally nothing. But you'll see
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  Speaker 2: this and I'm not going to say there's none of
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  Speaker 2: that on the left, but I can tell you it's
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  Speaker 2: not the same.
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  Speaker 5: It genuinely isn't.
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  Speaker 2: You had a whole scandal about the Chorus, you know,
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  Speaker 2: influencer community.
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  Speaker 5: That was a thing, But I'm telling you you do
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  Speaker 5: not have.
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  Speaker 2: The same level of expectation that you can just buy
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  Speaker 2: people and they this is commonplace, it accepted among the
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  Speaker 2: right wing media influencer class. We interviewed Kyle, and I
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  Speaker 2: interviewed Ashley Saint Clair elon Musk's X paramore yeah X
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  Speaker 2: all of this, and she was talking about how, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: she'd be in these group chats and this is just
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  Speaker 2: how it works.
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  Speaker 5: So when you had that scandal.
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  Speaker 2: Involving Timpoole and some other influencers who were like getting
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  Speaker 2: the shady money, they were like, what's the problem.
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  Speaker 5: Everybody does this. This is just normal. This is how
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  Speaker 5: we operate.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know, it's really wild, but people need
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  Speaker 2: to understand that what you're seeing on Twitter, or the
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  Speaker 2: content that's being produced, video content that's being produced that
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  Speaker 2: is not necessarily just coming because of their neutral analysis.
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  Speaker 2: Oftentimes there is someone behind the scenes who has a perspective,
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  Speaker 2: has an interest, who is paying them to say what
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  Speaker 2: they are.
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  Speaker 1: I've been on the receiving end of this.
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  Speaker 3: So if somebody called me and said, I know you
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  Speaker 3: really are passionate about sports betting, would you be willing
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  Speaker 3: to post against a sports betting piece of legislation? I
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  Speaker 3: was like, well, I was like, I don't accept money
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  Speaker 3: for posts. Just tell me about it and maybe I'll
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  Speaker 3: post about it or not. I don't get paid for
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  Speaker 3: Twitter for anything, you know. And and I go wait
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  Speaker 3: out of curiosity because I would love to meet this
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  Speaker 3: person who is paying to lobby against sports betting legislation.
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  Speaker 3: And they said, oh, well, we're working for the prediction markets.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, so the prediction markets are
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  Speaker 3: paying people to lobby against legal sports betting so they
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  Speaker 3: can be the only option. That's that's the level of
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  Speaker 3: scumbaggery which is happening out there. Of course, I just
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  Speaker 3: said no, I don't want you any I don't want
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  Speaker 3: your blood money.
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  Speaker 1: Basically.
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  Speaker 3: I also didn't even end up posting about it just
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  Speaker 3: because it's so skeevy and so disgusting.
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  Speaker 1: But that's a perfect example. And then you know, the
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  Speaker 1: way that they.
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  Speaker 3: Justify this stuff is there's always like like soda, They're like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: who cares, Okay, sure, I'll take a few dollars here
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  Speaker 3: and there. At one point I saw there was this
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  Speaker 3: whole scandal over India, like the government of India or
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  Speaker 3: somebody had been paying these influence or some firm on
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  Speaker 3: their behalf because Indians were under attack by a lot
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  Speaker 3: of these like you know, groiper types, and so a
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  Speaker 3: bunch of these right wing accounts are posting on behalf
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  Speaker 3: of India and then they got attacked and they deleted
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  Speaker 3: an apology. I know this all may sound, you know,
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  Speaker 3: a little bit byzantine, but this really does matter in
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  Speaker 3: terms of taste making I think on the right wall.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why it's important.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and especially now you have you know, it's a
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  Speaker 2: wild wild west in terms of journalism and media, which
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  Speaker 2: in some ways is great. That's why we exist, right
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  Speaker 2: It's enabled our ability to create the show and reach
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  Speaker 2: an audience and all those sorts of things. But don't
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  Speaker 2: leave your media analysis behind.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: We all understand, or viewers of this show, I think,
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  Speaker 2: understand the way that corporate media is in flat fluenced
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  Speaker 2: by their advertisers and by access journalism, by the sort
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  Speaker 2: of journalists that they even select to be at those organizations,
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  Speaker 2: and who's able to succeed and rise to the top.
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  Speaker 2: Like we understand all of that in a lot of ways.
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  Speaker 2: In the in quote unquote independent media ecosystem, the incentives
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  Speaker 2: are vastly worse because, at least at corporate media, there
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  Speaker 2: was a line between the people who were stelling YouTube
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  Speaker 2: you're fired, absolutely, yeah, absolutely, you caught for taking direct
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  Speaker 2: like corporate money or from any sort of interest and
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  Speaker 2: then providing a viewpoint based on that, you would be
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  Speaker 2: out the door here.
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  Speaker 5: It's just commonplace.
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  Speaker 2: It's just become an accepted part of the ecosystem to
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  Speaker 2: have this sort of direct undisclosed pay for play. So
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  Speaker 2: it was, you know, this is an important story obviously
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  Speaker 2: because of how consequential the decision in making around the
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  Speaker 2: Iran War is ultimately and so it was interesting to
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  Speaker 2: hear Jade Vance talking to Joe Rogan about this and
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  Speaker 2: the bands of course was the one who sent out
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  Speaker 2: to do the negotiations and was trying to present to
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  Speaker 2: Rogan this idea that like, oh yeah, we're bombing him again,
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  Speaker 2: but I promise we're getting back to the negotiating table.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see if that works out. In any case, he
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  Speaker 2: had a lot to say about this foreign influence operation
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  Speaker 2: that is being run to undermine the negotiations.
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  Speaker 5: Let's take a listen to that.
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  Speaker 6: But I definitely think you have seen this very discreete
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  Speaker 6: extremely well funded campaign to try to derail the negotiation
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  Speaker 6: and try to derail the deal. You know, there was again,
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  Speaker 6: there's this time article that came out yesterday. A friend
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  Speaker 6: send it to me. It's like worth reading because it
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  Speaker 6: lists a bunch of people who have quite literally been
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  Speaker 6: paid by a former Trump campaign person who was himself
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  Speaker 6: paid by certain elements within the Israeli government. And those
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  Speaker 6: people are attacking me viciously for quite literally trying to
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  Speaker 6: accomplish the negotiation objective that the President's set for the country.
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  Speaker 4: So what is their position, like, are they're attacking you how?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, it's it's social media posts, it's you know, they're
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  Speaker 6: leaking to reporters. They're attacking me obsessively saying that we
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  Speaker 6: should not be negotiating with Iran. We should just keep
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  Speaker 6: the military campaign going indefinitely. Let's say certain elements of
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  Speaker 6: the Israeli government want to criticize the deal or have
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  Speaker 6: disagreements about the deal. I don't even mind an effort
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  Speaker 6: to try to influence. You know, foreign governments try to
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  Speaker 6: influence the United States all the time. You know, Israel
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  Speaker 6: does it, other countries do it.
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  Speaker 4: It's just sort of.
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  Speaker 6: The nature of the beast. What bothers me is actually
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  Speaker 6: when Americans allow, meaning American leadership allows that influence to
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  Speaker 6: affect their judgment and to affect what they're advocating for.
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  Speaker 2: So let me just point out that his boss took
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  Speaker 2: how much money from Mary Mandelson for campaign?
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  Speaker 5: And then you have the audacity to be like, oh, the.
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  Speaker 2: Money and the influence, it's like the influencing politicians. That's
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  Speaker 2: what's really terrible. I don't know, that's a lot for
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  Speaker 2: me to swallow.
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  Speaker 1: Fair, I will say.
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  Speaker 3: The reason why, I mean, it's kind of interesting that
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  Speaker 3: you would call it out in the first place. The
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  Speaker 3: reason why is I think is I don't think he
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  Speaker 3: would if it weren't actually influential on his ability to
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  Speaker 3: negotiate and within the administration, because I can tell you
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  Speaker 3: how this all works. It's all happening right now because
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  Speaker 3: Jad basically just said the same stuff on Rogan they
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  Speaker 3: alway says about Israel. It's like, look, I mean, look
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  Speaker 3: at that, and this is why it's so tortured and
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  Speaker 3: why am I opinion The proseral position just ultimately has
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  Speaker 3: to collapse, So you have to twist yourself in a
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  Speaker 3: nons of like I don't even mind if the tries,
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  Speaker 3: you know, every other country tries. It's like fucking Estonia
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  Speaker 3: is not trying as much. Estonia does not have nearly
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  Speaker 3: as much influence.
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  Speaker 1: Did you know we have.
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  Speaker 3: More of a legal responsibility to protect Estonia than we
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  Speaker 3: do Israel.
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  Speaker 1: Do people even know that?
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  Speaker 3: But I think both the nuts just so you know,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, just in terms of the level of influence.
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  Speaker 3: My point around this is those posts are all you
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  Speaker 3: and I know how this works to the extent.
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  Speaker 1: That I tweet it all because I really don't much anymore.
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  Speaker 3: I only really do it to either either put an
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  Speaker 3: opinion out there like for fun like weed or Daylight Savings,
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  Speaker 3: or to influence the debate in the White House because
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  Speaker 3: I know that these posts gets surfaced and passed around
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  Speaker 3: and group chats and others to influence the debate against
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  Speaker 3: each other. That's why Laura Lumer does what she does.
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  Speaker 3: That's why she's out today attacking Joe Rogan, Mark Levin,
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  Speaker 3: Randy Fine, and just to show you all how.
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  Speaker 2: It's online administration to incredibly advance is really like the
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  Speaker 2: pinnacle of that online nature. I mean, that is really
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  Speaker 2: how he developed a lot of his view and became
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  Speaker 2: prominent in the right wing media ecosystem space.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so what I mean, Yes, he rode the online
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  Speaker 3: space to the Senate and arguably, I would say to
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  Speaker 3: the Vice President and largely you know, that's what set
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  Speaker 3: him apart from a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Of the other people who were GOP politicians.
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  Speaker 3: What I find fascinating though, is, let's put this one
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  Speaker 3: up here on the screen from Randy Fine, the senator
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  Speaker 3: from or the sorry, the congressman from Tel.
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  Speaker 1: Aviv aka Florida.
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  Speaker 3: But here he says, Randy Fine is now told White
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  Speaker 3: House officials he will vote against every rule on the floor, which,
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: just so you know, rule on the floor is like
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  Speaker 3: how you bring legislation. So this is a major pain
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  Speaker 3: in the ass for Mike Johnson and for the GOP,
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  Speaker 3: because what this means is that they will have much
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  Speaker 3: more difficulty advancing legislation, especially when you have such a
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  Speaker 3: narrow majority that's in the House of Representatives. What he
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  Speaker 3: says is he'll vote it until Trump fires Alex bruce Witz.
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  Speaker 1: Brucewitz and name some of you may not know.
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  Speaker 3: He was kind of the podcast whisperer of the Trump
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  Speaker 3: and Trump campaign in twenty twenty four. He was the
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  Speaker 3: one behind the Yvonne Joe Rogan, the Andrew Schultz interview
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  Speaker 3: like a lot of stuff which you say whatever you want.
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  Speaker 3: It obviously worked tremendously to Trump's benefit and kind of
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  Speaker 3: set a cultural vibe of Donald Trump ahead of the election.
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  Speaker 3: Bruce Witz has been one of the people who has
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  Speaker 3: been most vociferously attacking the Brad Parscale or not even attacking,
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  Speaker 3: pointing out a lot of these pro Israel influencers are
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  Speaker 3: all being paid off and saying you're undermining the administration.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: How dare you not trust Donald Trump? So Randy Fine
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  Speaker 3: finds it so important to fire this person who is
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  Speaker 3: just elevating the fact that pro Israel influencers are being
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  Speaker 3: paid and that Parscale himself is being paid that he
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  Speaker 3: is going to vote against every piece of legislation until
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  Speaker 3: bruce Witz is fired by the Trump by Trump as
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  Speaker 3: an advisor. We don't know how long and how far
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  Speaker 3: this is going to go, but I just do think
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  Speaker 3: that this is incredibly noteworthy for how he sees the
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  Speaker 3: you know how Randy himself, of course, one of the
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: most pro Israel piece you know, one of the most
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: pro Israel politicians in the GOP, he sees this so
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: as vital to his influence operation. And this has now
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: been endorsed by Mark Levin, who's like, great job, you know,
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: Randy fine. So you can see how for them they
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: find Twitter and like the battle of ideas there that
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: takes place as well as here in podcasts so important
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: because what they need is to elevate this and show
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: that there's actually more backlash against diplomacy than there actually is.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: Because if you're going to actually ask the American people
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: or do you support diplomatic effice war, they're like, yes,
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: of course, no question right. And for Trump, because he's
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: such a blank slate, they always try to use They
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: attack JD whenever they can attack Trump, or they use
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: Trump to attack JD and this is all part of
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: what's going on right now, and it's very noteworthy.
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: This is a separate issue.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: I think Fox needs a big problem for declomacy too,
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: because they're still beating the drums of war. It's like
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: the one thing that they'll be critical of Trump on.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: But I also want people to understand it's not just
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: like Twitter influencers. Brad Parscale is the chief strategy officer
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: for Salem Media, which has all sorts of properties. They
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: have a whole radio network, they fund a podcast network,
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: they fund town Hall, Red State, Hot Air, PG Media,
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: They've got all this Christian content. They even fund some
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: like financial publication. So it's a large conservative media network
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: that Parscale is the chief strategy officer for, and overtly
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: in his contract he says he pledged to amplify the
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: campaign across social media and through integration of narrative messaging
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: into Salem Media network properties and aligned distribution channels refer
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: into the Christian Conservative Badcasting and Publishing company where he
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: serves as chief strategy officer. It will not surprise you
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: that our own Ryan Grimm confronted Scott Jennings, who is
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: part of this Salem Media Network over the foreign Israeli
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: ties and how that might influence his commentary that he
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: offers on his show.
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: Let's go ahead and this is E two. Let's go
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: ahead and take a listen to that.
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: As a student, be as critical as you want, really
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: of the United States, you just can't be critical of Israel.
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: And also, and this is not personal the but there
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: is so much kind of money pouring in to push
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: us in that direction, even Salem Media where you do
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: your show, right, Brad Parscale, who is the chief strategy
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: officer there is a registered foreign agent for the Israeli
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Like this is an American I
• 18:49
  Speaker 7: think it's American, right Salem. Yeah, it's an American media
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: company whose chief strategy officer is a foreign agent registered
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: for the state of Israel. Let's thirty percent of this
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: company is owned by Lara Trump and Don Trump Junior.
• 19:07
  Speaker 7: Like what so before we're talking about like who you know,
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: what is America?
• 19:13
  Speaker 8: Who?
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: Who should be an American? It's like, or can we
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: as Americans discuss this?
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Let's get Scott's response.
• 19:21
  Speaker 9: Yeah, so you you seem to have some issue with
• 19:23
  Speaker 9: Israel having a presence in the United States, or even even.
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: On American I think we should be sanctioning even yes,
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: even on American universities. I think they should be sanctioned. Yes,
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: do you I think it should be I think I
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: think it. I think it should be criminal for an
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: American media company to take money from the Israeli Ministry
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: of Foreign Affairs, because I think they should be under
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: sanctions for what they did in Gaza.
• 19:48
  Speaker 9: Do you believe that American universities should be taking money from,
• 19:53
  Speaker 9: say Cutter.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: If we want to do a broad around human rights.
• 19:58
  Speaker 9: You seem to have singled out one country because put
• 20:00
  Speaker 9: by the way, as an ally of the United.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: They committed a genocide. Uh Cunter a lot of human
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: rights problems.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: There a lot of.
• 20:08
  Speaker 9: Universities all about Arabia. Universities all of this country do
• 20:12
  Speaker 9: take Katari money. I'm asking you internationalism beyond Israel.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: I'd be okay with banning that too.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: They always they always.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Say, I know, they always think the Left isn't kind
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: of willing to condemn Saudi Arabian's, Like we're the only
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: people who cared about the genocide they were.
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: Committing in Yemen.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Go look at you know, the content that we do
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: about Ua and Sudan. But they always think that, oh,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: they only care about Israel because I think they buy
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: the nonsense that it's based on anti Semitary and there's
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: not any sort of principal view around. Hey, we don't
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: want our tax dollars going to a genocide. We don't
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: want to see genocide committed.
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: Period.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: I've had this hit so many times. They're like, Qatar
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: must be paying him. The Katari government hates me. Roll
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: the footage from our show during the World Cup where
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: we were talking about all of the abuse of their
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: migrant laborers and how corrupt they were. I was afraid
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: I might get arrested whenever I had to do when
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: I had to transit through Doha.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: But yeah, they're gonna pay me some money just what
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: to speak out against Israel. It's a joke. It's just
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: That's all these people have, you know, it's all they
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: ever will last thing. We're just going to have a
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: small shout out here to al Yah Kobe, the friend
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: of the show.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's put him up here on the screen. Four.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: He is one of the people who is named in
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: this article.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: In fact, I think.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: He's the only one, yeah, that was specifically like this.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: This one guy is definitely on the take.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: So he he got very upset with Time magazine because
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: he disputed that he had been paid by Influenceable to
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: combat anti Semitism. But he does confirm he has worked
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: on Influenceable campaigns, according to a company official. Yeah, Kobe
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: did not say that he was paid to combat anti Semitism.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: He did, however, say that he had not post anything,
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: but he didn't already believe. However, as you and I
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: both know, even simply being paid to post opinions, you know,
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: is a way to basically prop them up inorganically. Ours
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: are completely and totally funded by a mass audience of
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: millions of people. So yeah, I mean sometimes you say
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: things that people don't agree with, etc. People can cancel
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: the members if they want, prefer you don't, but if
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: you want to, I guess you can. But it's not
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: a direct like nobody this is my favor. And they're like, oh,
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: he's posting this wheed Pharma's paying him. I'm like, oh, yeah,
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: for sure. I would adventure to say the weed stuff
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: has probably cost us more money in the long run
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: than anybody who's ever signed.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Up for it. I don't give it shit. But that's
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: my point.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Just we are paid, you know, and supported by the
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: show because people believe in the mission. They are being
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: directly paid inorganically outside of any like real market force,
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: by either the government, the companies, or whatever. And that's
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: fundamentally is undemocratic because it makes them more overrepresented in
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: political discourse than they actually deserve to be.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: And this is why does this matter. It's not just
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: my influencers.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: They set the tone for the GOP members of Congress
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: and for all of these other people who are in
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: the White House and the administration others to make them
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: think this is a much more popular position.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Than it actually is.
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And like, if you're being paid for something, then
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: you and.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: You should disclose it, right, you should.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: Absolutely disclose it. But just in terms of the way
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: that works.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Because I believe him that he genuinely holds horrific genocidal views.
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: I actually believe him in that.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys remember he's the one
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: who came to fame as like a college student crying
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: about anti semitism and demanding of safe space and really
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: helped to launch the anti Semitism, woke turn on the
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Republican right. But in any case, I believe him that
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: he genuinely and sincerely holds those views. But you know,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: if you're being paid to post, then maybe you're going
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: to post at a time when you wouldn't have otherwise. Maybe
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: you're going to go further than you would have otherwise
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: and try, you know, so you can get that engagement,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: so you can get a larger paycheck. It even with
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: someone who has those views, it distorts and changes their incentives,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: and it also creates a situation. You know, people can
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: talk themselves and all kinds of things if their paycheck
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: depends on it. So maybe things that you know on
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: him or another influencer wouldn't have justified. They can talk
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: themselves into because it's financially beneficial to them.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: So it's sick, it's sleazy, and it's far far too common.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: So appreciate Time magazine digging into and exposing at least
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: this one node, and then the fact that it's Trump's
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: former campaign chief who is now directly at times at
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: least depending on whether Trump is in a pro peace
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: or a pro war mood that day, but is at
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: times directly undermining what Trump is trying to do.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: I agree, all right, Oh I haven't done this in
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: a while, Crystal, What are you taking a look at?
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: Well?
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Taco Bell is now being investigated for potentially contributing to
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: the horrifying spread of the Cyclospora parasite, which has caused
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: a surge in explosive diarrhea. That illness can drag on
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: for weeks. It has already put dozens of people in
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: the hospital. Here's a report on that investigation, they say.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Tuesday that
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: investigators have identified a likely epidemiological link among cyclostspor bass
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: cases in at least four Midwestern states Michigan, Ohio, West Virginia,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: and Kentucky, marking the agency's clearest public indication yet that
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: many of the illnesses are connected by a common source.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Cases have been identified in at least thirty four states,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: and additional confirmed illnesses could continue to increase through the
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: end of August, according to officials. For their part, Taco
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Bell has voluntarily pulled some ingredients like lettuce, cilantro, and
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: guacamole from the menu in certain hard hit locations as
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: the search for the source of the parasitic spread is investigated.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Some people afflicted with cyclosporiasis say they never ate at
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Taco Bell, and the report does acknowledge that no specific
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Taco Bell nexus has been identified, so honestly, who.
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: Knows so far.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Though states are reporting roughly seven thousand cases, with a
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: particularly severe concentration in the Midwest, federal reporting is way
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: behind the state totals. For a sense of the scale
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: of the outbreak, Though Michigan typically reports forty to fifty
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: cases for an entire year, this year, they've already identified
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: more than thirty seven hundred. Nationally, the CVC logged twenty
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: seven hundred cases in all of twenty twenty five.
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: We have more than doubled that in It's only mid July.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: State data suggests we've already blown past the previous all
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: time hive about forty seven hundred cases set in twenty nineteen.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: What's more, all of these numbers are likely a significant
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: undercount because plenty of people seek care at home never
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: reported to the authorities, and also because testing for cyclist
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: spora is actually more difficult than other passage pathogens. One
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: confirmed patient described weeks of gastro intestinal hell, in which
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: she was so severely afflicted at times she could not
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: move from the confines of the bathroom.
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: No, it was pretty bad.
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: It was.
• 26:39
  Speaker 9: It was bad.
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: It's embarrassing how bad it was.
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: It was really bad.
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: Were there were moments where I was literally just camped
• 26:44
  Speaker 8: out in the bathroom and like, I don't care, I'm
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: just going to lay on this floor. And there was
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: like one night and I'm not a vomitter. One night
• 26:55
  Speaker 8: I did have an episode of just like it was.
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: That was actually the turning poorer. Wow, was like the
• 27:00
  Speaker 8: next morning, I'm like, Okay, we're going to the emergency
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: room because I remember calling and my baby came in
• 27:05
  Speaker 8: and she's like, what do you need. I was like
• 27:06
  Speaker 8: something for me to get this out in, so she's
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: bringing me a trash can. And it was pretty bad.
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: It was bad.
• 27:12
  Speaker 8: It's not for the week, I'll tell you that.
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: Not for the week.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Contemplating this horrifying fate, all for the crime of indulging
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: in a crunch wrap, you may.
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: Be asking yourself, why has God forsaken us?
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Well, turns out fault lies not in the stars, but
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: in ourselves, or at least in the wretched government we
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: decided to elect For some reason, in their enthusiasm for
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: government destruction, the Trump administration decided it would be a
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: great idea to just stop requiring active surveillance for cyclospora
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: along with a host of other food borne illnesses like listeria.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: In fact, now monitoring is only required for two pathogens
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: that salmonilla and E.
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: Coli.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Let's consider the irony here. We're devoting endless resources to
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: building the human tracking panopticon, but when it comes time
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: to surveil and track explosive diarrhea causing pathoge and suddenly,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: apparently I don't have the funds. This is all unfolding too,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: amidst the backdrop of massive workforce cuts at the CDC
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: and across all of health and Human services. The CDC
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: alone is lost about a quarter of its workforce under
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Trump two point zero, including key experts among the agency's
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: disease detectives. Maintaining the previous surveillance regime would not likely
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: have stopped the outbreak, but the fact that it's spreading unchecked,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: that the federal data is lagging way behind the state data,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: and that no source still has been identified That all
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: speaks to the detrimental impact of all of these cuts.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Former CDC communication staffer Sarah Boham, she was terminated in
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: the first wave of DOGE firings back in February twenty
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: twenty five. She described the toll here as generational. The
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: harm that's going to come to people that don't even
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: know what CDC was protecting them from. But this is
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: just the tip of the iceberg lettuce. Sorry, couldn't resist
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: that one. How would you also like little flesh eating bacteria?
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Maybe malarial reintroduction. How about a screwworm infestation or an
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: unmitigated bullet catastrophe. Did you vote for explosive diarrhea and
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: a resurgence of the measles? Because also impacted by the
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: pathage and surveillance cuts was a little guy called Vibrio.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Vibrio is a flesh eating bacteria causing serious illness icee U, hospitalization,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: limb amputation, and even death in one of five cases.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: It is spreading more widely.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Now due to the impacts of the climate crisis at
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: the same time that the trump edmin is undercutting our
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: ability to track and to study it. In fact, the
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: National Science Foundation began dismantling the deep Ocean monitoring network
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: critical for predicting the sorts of conditions in which Vibrio thrives.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: The program was explicitly targeted by Project twenty twenty five,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: claiming that the data was fueling climate alarmism. Now, let
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: me ask you, do you think it's climate alarmism to
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: want to know a little something about flesh eating bacteria. Fortunately,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: outcry from Congress did lead them to reverse those original plans.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: But moving on from the CDC, we got a significant
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: screw worm spread, causing chaos and the cattle industry. This
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: parasitic blowfly had been around dedicated in the US. Now
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: it's back, and unfortunately for beef enjoyers, the USDA unit
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: responsible for fighting it, the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: lost two thousand and nine employees under DOGE. That is
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: twenty three percent of the entire service. USDA overall shed
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: roughly twenty thousand workers in a single year. Now, Agriculture
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Secretary brookroledge, she claims that the idea Doge caused this
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: could not be further from the true truth. She instead
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: blames Biden and illegal immigration. She has, however, failed to
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: provide any evidence of this claim. USDA's own report, though,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: estimates a Texas outbreak could cost the state one point
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: eight billion dollars. Meanwhile, if we look overseas, we can
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: see the impact of our global aid cuts on disease
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: prevention around the world. There is, for example, a particularly
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: bad outbreak of a bullet in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: It's one of the worst in history.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: In fact, experts say that has been worsened by USAID
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: cuts and US withdrawal from the World Health Organization. Quote
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: without the same amount of funding from USAID, the International
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Rescue Committe, which partners to deliver frontline health surveillance and
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: outbreak preparedness activities in Congo, curtailed its programs. Funding cuts
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: have left the region dangerously exposed. Heather reach kerr IRC's
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: country director for Congo, said in a statement, we are
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: now here monitoring airports make sure we don't end up
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: with an abola outbreak here at home.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: Let's hope that all works out.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, experts are also warning that those same global health
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: cuts could lead to a reintroduction of malaria on US soil.
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: After eradicating that back.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: In nineteen fifty one, the CDC issued updated guidance warning
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: that we are susceptible to reintroduction, which is not hard
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: to predict when you slash the programs that contain malaria abroad.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: We've already had a local outbreak of malaria which was
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: contained back in twenty twenty three, so this risk is
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: in fact very real. Turns out, guys, you can't just
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: run around to the chainsaw acting programs you don't know
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: about and don't understand without some potential negative consequences. You
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: can't make it your stated goal to make life so
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: miserable for government workers that they all retire without losing
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: a few genuine experts who really actually mattered may have
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: been also particularly irreplaceable. It will take years just to
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: assess the damage that was done in the government destruction
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: feeding frenzy. It turns out all those people are tax sellers,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: were paying for all those programs we knew nothing about
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: that were just running in the background, tracking, researching, coordinating, preventing.
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: Some of those at.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Least were really pretty important, at least to those of
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: us who prefer to order their food without having to
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: play what one Twitter user described as poo poo roulette.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Let's consider the irony here though in public health, the
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: actual technical term for tracking pathogens is disease surveillance. That's
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: what food Net was the program they cut, and it
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  Speaker 2: turns out that's the one and only kind of surveillance
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  Speaker 2: this government has ever wanted. Less of endless money for
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: watching you and not a dime to watch the parasite.
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  Speaker 2: So Saber that is that is my take. Yeah, your
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: thoughts on the potential Taco Bell next this year, it's
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: pretty weak. I just want to say, in fairness to
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Taco Bell, they are looking into it, but some of
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  Speaker 2: the people who got sick didn't need it time.
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  Speaker 3: Literally, just yesterday, my wife was going to make salad,
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  Speaker 3: She's like, should I make the salad?
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, make the salad.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, you're that kind of a guy. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I'll mean, look, I've got an iron stomach, I've spent
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  Speaker 3: a lot of time in Asia. I think I'll be
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: all right. But so I ate the salad. We'll see,
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  Speaker 3: We'll see if it works out. I mean, from the
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  Speaker 3: Doge thing, I think.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's been so long, so we even talked
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  Speaker 1: about Doge.
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  Speaker 3: Ultimately it came down to we got to it's the
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  Speaker 3: same Republican trap of all time.
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  Speaker 1: We want to cut spending.
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  Speaker 3: We don't want to touch the military, and we don't
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  Speaker 3: want to touch entitlements.
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  Speaker 1: There's seven percent of the federal budget left.
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  Speaker 3: Most of it is stuff that most of us like,
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  Speaker 3: like the Noah hurricane guys who fly into the middle
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  Speaker 3: of a hurricane, or a US control yeah, air traffic control. Nonetheless,
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  Speaker 3: we still want to cut x billion, so we got
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: to cut something. So yeah, this is the type of
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  Speaker 3: stuff that you end up cutting and you have no
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  Speaker 3: real idea. It's kind of a sledgehammer approach to the government.
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  Speaker 3: And meanwhile, every saving of DOGE would be wiped out
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  Speaker 3: if the Trump administration simply passed their quested NDAA budget,
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  Speaker 3: which would increase the budget to one point five trillion. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: every dollar that was allegedly saved will go to funding
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  Speaker 3: some BS weapons manufacturing company. So ultimately, yeah, this will
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  Speaker 3: be their legacy. And actually we warned about it at
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  Speaker 3: the time with there air traffic control. I remember, I go,
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  Speaker 3: if you have any even single airplane crash, and like
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: you literally are on the hoo for it. So congratulations,
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  Speaker 3: And you know, I think you're not even the first
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  Speaker 3: person to draw this conclusion. I've seen it spread across
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  Speaker 3: social media about how people are upset by these types
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  Speaker 3: of things. In fact, this is the type of stuff
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  Speaker 3: people want to see their government do and not increase
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  Speaker 3: their military budget by wall.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Well, here's the thing is.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we joked about this on a Friday Show,
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: when we're talking about the screwworm, like it sounds like
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: studying the mating habits of the Mexican screwworm or New
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: World screwworm, I think is what it's called. Sounds like
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  Speaker 2: a caricature, the sort of wasteful government spending. The Fox
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: News would be like, this is ridiculous, why are we
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: doing this? And then lo and behold, you actually did
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  Speaker 2: one layer deeper, and you're like.
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  Speaker 5: You know, that was kind of important.
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  Speaker 2: We should have probably kept doing that because now the
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: entire beef industry, the cattle industry in Texas is genuinely
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: at risk. We talked to, you know, expert on Texas
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: politics who really emphasized to us how much we're talking
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: about the Texas Center race, how much the screworm situation
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: is like a genuine wild card in terms of what
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: could happen in that Senate race. Because the the economic
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: impact is massive, and then the cultural impact is massive too.
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  Speaker 2: We are a beefeeding country. You know, we already have
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: beef prices that have skyrocketed. If you start having genuine shortages,
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: which is a possibility, that's going to really hit Texans
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  Speaker 2: very hard. So in any case, you know, it would
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: have been nice. I'm sure there is government waste, fraud
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: and abuse.
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  Speaker 5: Which could be cut Soger.
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  Speaker 1: It's all the Pentagon.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: We could if you cross the river as seban and said,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: go to the Pentagon, you could find some, you know,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: throw rock and find some if you you know, even
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: in terms of medicare fraud, we've got you know, we've
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: got members of the Senate who could tell you all
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: about that and.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: What about legalized to go?
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: But like literal league fraud in medicare the fact that
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: they can't negotiate drug prices on the.
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  Speaker 1: Top of the Yeah, that's fraud. That actually is it?
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  Speaker 3: What I know when I every time I see my
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: Fika and I think about that, it fills me with rage.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the fact that we're overpaying for drugs, Yeah, for
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: no reason. It's literally anyway.
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  Speaker 2: But I think we're you know, we're just at the
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: beginning of the process of finding out what were the
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: things that they destroyed that actually were useful and were
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: preventing genuine harms. So, in any case, a lot of
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: learning things the hard way in this country at this point.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently all right, thank.
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  Speaker 3: You guys so much for watching. We appreciate it. The
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  Speaker 3: Friday Show for everybody tomorrow, so they'll see you then.